A word on GenX

The defining event for Generation X was the 1986 amnesty. 1983 and 1989 were different worlds. 1983: “what are mestizos? Never heard of em. Oh, look, there’s that Zebra video Martha Quinn was talking about” 1989: “the HR department has informed us that if you want large items to be thrown out by the cleaning crew you must label them ‘basura,’ not ‘trash’” – Wharf Rat

It definitely was in its results. Did it feel impactful at the time? Not over here on the East Coast, where I’d not even seen a single Mexican until around 1991… and I worked in a restaurant kitchen! Much less a Guatemalan. Immigration was an abstract matter over here at the time.

Generation X didn’t really have those world-changing single-event defining moments in our formative years. The closest to those were:

– Reagan’s reelection victory
– Televangelist scandals
– Challenger explosion
– The O.J. Simpson verdict, but most of us were already well into our twenties then.

– Waco and Ruby Ridge were, for most of us in the United States, faraway events. Clinton’s election victory (again, many of us were young adults by then) was a weird experience regardless of one’s party affiliation. There was something unserious and thus disorienting about having a saxophone-playing, briefs/boxers-discussing U.S. President.

– The end of the Cold War, followed by reunification of Germany, independence of Ukraine and Baltic states, and war in Yugoslavia was the first time we saw lines on the map of the Western world change.

We are a skipped-over, transitional, forgotten generation. Even our teen anthem is titled Don’t You Forget About Me. We had Grunge as our one proprietary thing, plus the privilege of being teenagers in the ’80s.

Other than that, we “don’t exist.” See this great rant by Steph (kid youtuber, almost certainly has an adult collaborator). She goes off on Boomers, goes off on Millennials, no mention of us.

GenX is a messenger, ghost, witness, invisible helper generation. We created the AltRight and we are Generation Zyklon’s spiritual ally.

The video has the grey graphic look like it had been taken down, but it’s perfectly good and playable at the moment.

Related: the five best geopolitical events of my lifetime.

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105 thoughts on “A word on GenX

  1. PA

    Rodney King? Part of your list for sure.

    [Oh yeah. Definitely. Rodney King was the opening ‘bookend’ to the drama that closed with the OJ verdict. — PA]

  2. I’d throw Gulf War I in that list too.

    [And Grenada and Panama. All completely overshadowed by Boomers’ Vietnam and Millennials’ AFG/IRQ. – PA]

  3. Gen X was also the first generation to bear the brunt of feminism via no fault divorce and the “working mom”.

  4. BBC of all things was running a loop of Ferris Buellers Day Off the other day. Can you imagine this being made today? The casting? The messaging?

    Or any of the other JH movies?

  5. Star Wars was a defining moment. It gave a generation that grew up with no myths and myth of its own.

    80’s was also THE golden age of action movies, and I would argue the golden age of prime time network TV.

  6. Generation X didn’t really have those world-changing single-event defining moments. The closest to those were:

    Another defining moment is when the (((media))) attempted to foist Political Correctness on us in the early 90’s for a few years, before the Clinton scandals derailed them for a time. 9/11 also put off their psycholiberal media push for a few years, then after Obama left office PC and every other academic leftist social screed has now gone mainstream in American society and political thought – white privilege, wokeness, colonization, anti-LGBT, micro-aggressions, etc. etc.

    @PA – you and I seem to be some of the few that remember that happening in the early 90’s (along with Sailer) but we’re actually a tiny bit too young to have fully understood what was happening at the time. The majority of the alt-Right doesn’t seem concerned with it. (partly because they’re too busy getting into internecine catfights with each other over dumb crap)

    Check the “bump” on PC terms in the early 90’s, followed by the post-Obama explosion where media no longer bothers to hide the fact that they’re pushing their own indoctrination agenda and traditional journalistic standards are out the window:

  7. I’d argue we were also the first to grow up without a “downtown”. How come nobody went downtown anymore? Because that’s where the blx were at. Malls were a reaction to crime, just as dying malls are today a reaction to (othering? poorly behaved brwns? loud stinky nonwyts?).

    Lack of a physical point of focus lead us (genx) to develop the imaginary concept of what “America” is. We’re a people, we look, think, and act a particular way. For the boomers, “America” was the 4th of July parade downtown, or the Christmas decorations downtown. It was a place, regardless of who the people present were. For us, there was no physical place, only people. For the millenials, there’s neither place nor people. They’ve never had any access to an allwyt nation. They’ve never known a physical place where everyone congregated (including church). All they know is politics/lying, which leads to low trust. They have close relationships with people they know, but don’t extend that out to “everyone in this place” like the boomers, or “everyone that looks like an American”, like genx. We’re cynical because we were reared in high-trust and learned not to, but they were reared in low-trust. They’ve never known otherwise.

  8. The Duke Lacrosse case was my final “red pill” moment. (or is it blue pill)

    That’s when it became clear to me that America was no longer America and I has a certain desire to find out if anyone else was having the same Truman show type of self-aware, awake-but-sleepwalking ” is this really fucking happening?” kinda moment that I was having, too.

  9. I’d argue we were also the first to grow up without a “downtown”. How come nobody went downtown anymore?

    Good point. Having grown up in the Deep South I was taken aback completely (2003) when my job transferred me to Kansas City for a time and I ran into inner city areas where lower/working-class whites (with kids) still lived in walkable urban areas. I’d see groups of white kids playing on the streets and in alleys or see manual labor-class whites walking to pubs or the grocery store and that all looked like an old movie from the 50’s to me.

    Of course, after a few months of living there I subsequently found out that Kansas City only has a moderate amount of working class white urban neighborhoods and they’re all exclusively on the Kansas side.

    Working class-whites had long since abandoned the inner cores of cities in the South where I grew up by more formative years in the 80’s.

  10. I’m at the tail end of GenX and since I was always “older” than my peers, I picked up on the essentials via osmosis, that would later get fleshed out with time, research and this blog. And even then, as I got older, I could feel that more preference was on the next generation. Maybe since we grew up in the “greed is good” era, nobody had reason to give a damn.

    I grew up in a border town so I was always surrounded by messicans, but they weren’t the self-entitled kind, save for a handful of confused ones. Rather, they were just going about their lives, going to school, yadda yadda yadda. Identity politics hadn’t yet materialized and I lived in a mildly conservative town. Later, when I got to LA, the entitlement of those beaners was alarming, but given the city, it’s expected.

    I contend that the Rodney King incident gave OJ the idea he could get away with murder because had he been found guilty, the riots would have forever altered, physically and emotionally, LA to a point of no return. I guess you could his verdict changed things forever racially.

    The 80s, and up to a few years in the late 90s, were Hollywood’s postmodern golden age, not unlike the musical’s golden age from about late 40s to sorta early 60s. Action films were the shit. John Hughes films were a slice of flyover America, that for a border town kid like me was heaven. Those films can now be viewed through an anthropological lens of what once was America.

  11. What people need to realize about the OJ Simpson verdict is that the whole case was botched by prosecutor Marcia Clarke, a liberal feminist.

    She allowed far too many black women on the jury, thinking that black women (of all people) would understand battery by males and would side with Nicole Brown Simpson. She ignored the warnings of her trial consultants who tried to tell her that race Trumps gender (pun intended) for black women and that black female jurors would side with OJ and simply regard Nicole Simpson as a young white whore of little value taking away one of their good men with her white girl ho tricks.

    That terrible jury selection is the real story of the OJ verdict, none of the other details really mattered. She basically doomed herself and the verdict by letting the jury be packed with black women.

  12. Concerning Gen Z: just caught the tail end of Trump’s speech to the Teen Summit. While it wasn’t as large as his usual rallies, it was just as loud and raucous. He invited some young men up to the stage to give a few words out, as they were each victim of an attack for their conservative views; one of them was the kid that got assaulted by the beaner at a Whataburger in TX (guy tossed the kid’s MAGA hat and then a drink in the his face.)

    The young men didn’t hem or haw to go on stage and once on stage, they were ready. Now, even if this was all scripted, it’s not easy to stand up to a crowd of folks, especially with the president standing right next to them. They didn’t show any signs of nervousness and spoke well and clear; no “uh”, no “um.” One young man had some fire in his belly and spoke strongly but didn’t go overboard; had just the right balance.

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  14. Watching the (ahem) “best and brightest” negros… college students at some (cough) black university of certain renown… cheering like chimps at a banana rail car crash when the OJ acquittal was announced…. that for me was when I knew America was finished.

    That Whites as a whole didn’t wake up, witnessing how even the so-called “talented tenth” was strictly of the ooga-booga muh tribe mentality, was the real watershed moment of American socio-political decline, bolstered all the more by the ongoing (((MSM))) pop cultural onslaught.

    On a side note, watching this nerdy little cooze do the Muh Boomer schtick, especially after the bait-and-switch on what was obviously the JQ, was (((haid shakin’))) enough… but listening to you allegedly grown men parrot her tripe since the days of the chateau, well… THIS is the type of whizz-dumb you continue to hitch your collective carts to… and why we lose.

    “All the losing that’s fit to print”

  15. Capture the youth, capture the people.

    It has always worked, and always will.

    But…for every generation, there’s a GAP.

    That was a famous ‘90s ad for The Gap clothing store. It’s truer than they’d ever want it to be. The Gap is widening and the truth of the varying ideas is not comfortable. Gen Zyklon is not at all the docile animal they’d expected GenX to breed.

    I remember a lot of my early programming (outside of Catholic school) as a sort of wished-for positive epilogue of the late 60s counterculture. Older kids were chalking peace signs on my classroom notes, and The Man was something to be resisted. I attended the first Lollapalooza at 14, my aunt was chaperone. I was ok physically, but damn did I see a world that I wanted to inhabit. Too much, too soon, too young.

    But…it fails. Kids do need a whip hand, strong or gentle, either way…booms let us run wild, and after running wild, we realized free wasn’t exactly cool, unless you want society to crumble.

    I take our kids to wild places regularly, for the respite from noise and the personal challenge, but after running wild for a time, they know civilization offers comfort they’d have to fight for, hard, outside.

    I get to thinking we are too soft, as a society. Power is out for a few thousand people near me. They’re livid that they must wait a day or two for restoration.

    Whatever “IT” is, WILL NOT HAPPEN PEACEFULLY.

  16. The first wave of Squatamalans was imported to my hometown by the local Catholic Churches during their civil war in the 80s. The local middle class ginzos all became slum lords, turning over their entire neighborhoods and then escaping into the wealthier surrounds. Lately, the (((big developers))) got into the act on an industrial scale fed by cheap loans, HUD grants, and Section 8. It’s hell.

  17. “I contend that the Rodney King incident gave OJ the idea he could get away with murder”

    He’s a fuckin eggplant.

  18. Believe 1979 qualifies me as the tail end of the X’ers. We were the last generation to be told, “Just go outside and play.” We could walk around the neighborhood, round up other kids, and organize a baseball game, kick the can, etc. Ride bikes, skateboards. Diversity inc. ruined all of that. My friends’ kids have no such experience living in libtardtropolis.

    Apparently even trick or treating is being phased out in some areas in favor of trunk or treat’s more controlled environment.
    FE

  19. where I’d not even seen a single Mexican until around 1991

    That’s very interesting to me – north of the border, I’ve still never seen a Mexican. Ever! We go up to my wife’s old homestead sometimes, where the village is lily-white and feels like 1980, and it seems as unfathomable that it should ever be overrun with foreigners as it would have to a North American Indian in 1500. And yet…

    Apparently even trick or treating is being phased out in some areas in favor of trunk or treat’s more controlled environment.

    GAY

  20. Teen and college age jobs are the big thing. Was Gen X the last generation where many white kids of all classes did manual work during their high school and college years for spending money? I had two of those jobs in the mid 80s, mowing lawns and feeding, bathing, and housecleaning for dogs at a boarding kennel, picking up yorkie and great dane s#$t outside in the summer with hoes and shovels for 3 years. I didn’t care, they paid me well enough to buy Judas Priest and Husker Du albums. Then abruptly in 1986 they didn’t, they hired nonwhite adults instead. But I was lucky enough to be a college student and had what they called a future, so it didn’t matter that much. Lawnmowing especially–ok, landscaping–is a big industry that changed overnight because of the amnesty. Boy did I ever notice that, and it was impactful at the time, I had to become a security guard instead, spending most of my time signing in and out the new non-English speaking cleaning crews who overnight took over jobs at office parks. It really was that abrupt.

  21. Another defining moment was when Axel Foley got it over on those squares, with his “banana in the tailpipe” routine. First of all, does that even work? and second of all, the symbolic gayness of it was not apparent for some reason, then?

    The other big moment from the 80s was when Jo thought she was finally accepted, despite her bad girl background, and got invited to the prom but then almost got raped out on the golf course, when all she thought they were going to do was walk around under the stars.

    The reference to Bill Clinton and his saxophone playing. Fleetwood Mac. Did Hillary dance; that seems unlikely.

  22. Born 1980, I don’t remember much, truth be told. I recall:

    -Tiananmen Square (not western but still made an impression on me, what struck my childhood mind most was the news reporter live on a phone call sounding awfully nervous)

    -my grandparents glued to the OJ trial

    No memory of Berlin Wall or Challenger at all. The lostest, safest generation of all time.

    Obviously not an historic event, but PA do you remember this, as an 80s metal fan?

    Maybe that one’ll make a comeback.

  23. There’s a scene in 16 Candles where Molly Ringwald’s gal pal os horrified when she thinks M.R. wants a black guy, and M.R. quickly corrects her. It was a different, and better world.

  24. I sometimes feel guilty for my complacency in nursing the nascent movement which is now a full tilt white genocide machine.

    The thing is, unlike the Boomers, I plead ignorance for us Xers. We really -didn’t- realize what the fuck was going on whereas boomers were crystal clear they wanted to stick it to ‘the man’ and tear down every edifice their previous generations worked so hard to build. Clueless rich white kids burning down the society that allows them to be clueless rich white kids. Ironic. Doubly so since it is still happening but at a -very- accelerated pace now with dumbfuck millennials and gen-Zs.

    My original sentence- I am referring to I remember seeing an odd sign driving through my neighborhood it was a mural painted on a stone wall at a public park near my house. It was about 1990 I think and it said “Diversity is Our Strength”. I found it pretty odd at the time, and just sort of shrugged and thought ‘whatever’ and carried on w/ my day. Little did I know that was a trojan horse and a mind virus that would bring a tsunami of misery to my nation in the future.

    Likewise, I remember Eddie Vedder at the MTV unplugged writing all this Seattle lefty liberal shit on his arms. “Choice”, other slogans of that nature promoting murdering babies on demand. And though the music of grunge was certainly ours they were, to a man, raging fucking lefties with Vedder being one of the worst. These things I did not concern myself with at that time and in hindsight that was not wise. But like many people in history that 20/20 vision of hindsight wasn’t available at the time. *shrug*

    p.s. FastEddie- I don’t do my dead mudsharks reports anymore because I discovered Anglin has a whole section of DS devoted to this very topic so I sort of just read it there rather than seeking it out in MSM like I was before, just FYI since you mentioned it.

  25. @Jay
    ” We really -didn’t- realize what the fuck was going on …”

    x1000
    We thought it was a joke. We treated it like a joke. I went to a Catholic HS and already “social justice” was a required class. This was ’96-’97. We all laughed at it. I remember I was 15 or 16, and they were showing us a movie about don’t hurt da wahmen. It’s possible we weren’t THAT mature, but I do remember the whole class uproariously laughing and cheering during each scene of domestic violence, just to get a rise out of the teacher.

    It never occurred to us that anyone would take the joke seriously, much less build an entire political paradigm around it.

    Same went for the music. Loved the hell out of pearl jam, sound garden, AIC, rage, NIN. When they spouted praise da wahmen kill da babies talk, we just dismissed it. They were literally unkempt, long-haired greaseballs. We were teenagers, and even we realized they were just entertainment. We had no idea anyone would take them seriously.
    FE

  26. I remember the Vedder “choice” scribbling distinctly because my cousin was gaga for him and damn near came when he did that. The reason I was involved was because no one in their family knew how to work a VCR to record shit and from time to time I’d have to record something for them. (I’m not making this up.) She was older than I and didn’t have much of a family life and was the type that was raised on MTV.

  27. — It never occurred to us that anyone would take the joke seriously

    How many boomer dads gave their son The Talk? At 35 thru 50, they were certainly old enough to recognize communist propaganda when they saw it.

  28. — @PA – you and I seem to be some of the few that remember that happening in the early 90’s (along with Sailer) but we’re actually a tiny bit too young to have fully understood what was happening at the time.

    Some of the early PC outrages were raising red flags with me. But then again, my parents were recognizing crypto-communism in ’83 with news of court orders to to take down Nativity scenes from municipal property. Early 90s PC was in your face pretty badly. It seemed to come from nowhere around ’91 and got really bad in ’92.

  29. — north of the border, I’ve still never seen a Mexican.

    Not many new Mexicans around here. I think Mexico ran out of Mexicans. But the DC region has plenty of Guatemalans, Hondurans, Salvadorans…

  30. @PA
    Point taken. Hard to argue. My boomer parents are genuinely very good people. My Dad just retired after 38 years as a stockbroker. He didn’t buy fancy cars or lake houses. He put all 5 of his kids through private school and university. They hate homos and abortion. They make the trip at least once per week out of the burbs down into the belly of the beast and pray (and mix it up with niggers and libtards) in front of an abortion clinic.

    Just rock-solid good people. But the Catholic Church is as cucked as any institution out there on race. Under the guardianship of the queen libtard pope, it’s making quick strides on socialism as well (and I’m just waiting for the shoe to drop on homo acceptance.)

    Further, there’s nothing a boomer (not all boomers- GE!) loves more than entertainment. Just try prying a boomer away from afroball. They can’t do it. They’d seriously consider giving up food and water first. Combo of those two factors makes it almost impossible to RP boomers on die-versity.

    You alluded to the mindfuck that was millennial coming of age, before. And I’m not trying to be a negative negro, but I don’t see this “gen zyklon” either. Though to be fair, they’ve yet to get to their truly formative, rebellious years.

    To my mind, X’ers stand alone because we remember how good we had it and have proper perspective on the accelerating decline.

    Look at the popularity of this thread. X’er after X’er (and some old millennials) who recall with crystal clarity the day they knew their own country and culture hated them.

    Getting back to your point, if God willing, I tire of bar skanks and find a decent girl, I would inoculate the hell out of my progeny. Daily lessons of- this is what they’re going to teach you, and this is why it’s wrong.
    FE

  31. In the spring of 1994, I took the Metro into DC with two high school friends to buy the latest Cannibal Corpse CD. Yes, back in those days you had to take meandering day trips to get ONE album. Anyway, before going to Tower Records, we walked through some “Save the Earth” fair inside the DC armory.

    I remember arguing with cute older white liberal girls about their stupid Lefty causes. At one point I asked girls at an animal rights table, “What’s the point of an otter?” One of them said, “The purpose of an otter is to LIVE!”

    So yes, like you guys are saying, at the time we just laughed this stuff off. Besides, I had a new death metal album to crank up to eleven! And in the 25 years since, I think we’ve all been busy trying to achieve greatness while the goalposts moved and ground shifted beneath our feet–due to outsourcing, inflation, immigration, economic crashes, etc. We didn’t realize so many other people had all that TIME on their hands to metastasize Leftism as they have.

  32. Defining characteristics of Gen X vs. Boomers: Parental Divorce
    Defining characteristics of Gen X vs. Millennials: Summer Jobs; Racial & Cultural Homogeneity in their formative pre-adult years

    Gen X gets dogged above and below, but our passive nihilism really does make us the perfect in-betweener generation. I ascribe it to being the first generation to experience ZFG Parenting, later manifest as ZFG Governing, by the Boomers. From it everything else flows as the logical conclusion.

    Having said that, it occurred to me the other day — and I’ve been waiting for the right time and place to share it, so here goes — that there is one inexcusable, singularly Gen X, cultural fail. If I may be so presumptuous, I’ll leave it as a challenge to readers for a day or so. 🙂 I will give a hint: it mostly afflicts the women. Somewhat ironically, it combines Boomers’ worst trait (narcissism) and probably Millennials’ biggest cultural fad (still on-going, alas).

  33. First… Gen X is divided pre and post-Roe January 1973. Pre-Roe Gen Xers are still essentially protected by the US Government from their beginning. Post-Roe Gen Xers and all who came afterwards are not and never were. This is a meta-generational schism.

    But I would say that the defining event of middling Gen Xers was the Big AIDS Lie with its “magic johnson” subnarrrative. In this event within an event were the makings of homo-victimization, manic negrophilia, monopolization of PEDs, normalization of mudducking and insane exaltation of the {{{medical industrial complex}}}. Not only were 16-17-18 year old white boys being scared shitless about getting AIDS from just having normal sex with a white chick, “magic johnson” turned out to be a super-nigger defying odds that no one else with the HIV virus had really done. “magic johnson” seemed to be getting stronger while all the other HIV positive “individuals” were dropping like flies. Of course, behind the scenes, millions and millions of taxpayer dollars were being pumped into what amounted to no more than the advanced research into PEDs. HIV positive homosexuals across the land were granted near instant access to these PEDs by way of their HIV positive status. The consequence of this behind-the-scenes access to advanced PEDs was, quite predictably, the accelerated infusion of homosexuals into professional sports. For the less discerning, the juiced-up homos became much more noticeable in the gym before they were able to become visible professionally.

    Tie these things together and Gen Xer post-Roe real eyed the dystopian future around ‘89-‘92, but hasn’t yet contended with his post-Roe status as “legally terminable” from his beginning.

  34. PaterVault: no idea despite giving it some thought… Looking forward to finding out.

    Thordaddy: good point about AIDS and the pathologizing normal sex. Another thing that was propagandized to teenagers in the 80s was this fear of unplanned pregnancy. It’s one thing to teach responsibility, another to condition high schoolers to fear it as some kind of a life-ruining event.

    Off the cuff, what makes each generation, in addition to similar excellent summaries by others:

    Boomers: life in the land of lotus eaters. Never learned a damn thing in their life.

    GenX: Rug pulled up from under them at around 20. Froze up but learned everything.

    Millennials: Columbine and 9/11. Sexual market skewed by female obesity and dating apps.

    Zyklon: Trump’s victory as their formative moment. (Secondarily, they have GenX rather than Boomer parents)

  35. As to the 1973 GenX split: yeah. It’s been commented on here earlier. I’m 1970, part of the first half of X. Representative quality of our subgeneration is that our lower-class age mates went with the long haired hard rock look. The younger half of GenX drifted to black aesthetic, with the whigger or nu-metal look.

    The 1965-1972 Xers share their basic aesthetic tastes with Boomers. The 1973-1980 Xers’ tastes have more in common with the Millennials that would follow.

  36. Some of you guys are about ten years younger than me. Word to the wise: the forties are going to go by in a blink of an eye. If you’re around 40 and you’re where you want to be, excellent. But if there are things you know you have to do with your life, start today. Literally today. I’m not talking about bucket list fun stuff but of things that define a life.

  37. SJ, Esq: “north of the border, I’ve still never seen a Mexican.”

    Yet in BC you’ve got genuine Brazilian ladies getting sued for not waxing some demented perv’s beans and frank.

    Brazilians in Canada. What next, a roided-up Jamaican sprinter representing Canada in the Olympics? Oh wait that was over 30 years ago. This tide won’t be turned.

  38. Word to the wise: the forties are going to go by in a blink of an eye. If you’re around 40 and you’re where you want to be, excellent. But if there are things you know you have to do with your life, start today. Literally today. I’m not talking about bucket list fun stuff but of things that define a life.

    Probably the most salient and profound piece of advice ever given on a blog, alt-R or otherwise.

    Well done… well done, indeed.

    Let me add that, at 40, you’re already at least 10 years behind schedule, life definition-wise, so a sense of urgency (with extreme prejudice) should be your de facto state of mind now.

  39. “…start today. Literally today.”

    Timeless advice, PA. It sounds like I’m about 20 years younger than you, but I’ve got major plans for this next decade. Thanks for a pithy reminder to Act unfalteringly on them, before their withered neglect can Act upon me.

  40. I used to think I was a late bloomer, as I was unnecessarily comparing myself to others and to the “average”, if you will; never quite “getting it” or “figuring it out.”

    While certain ages and decades do present their milestones and foray into greater achievements, I realized about seven years ago, that when it is my time, then it’s my time. When it’s your time, then it’s your time, not solely based on a numerical age–an seemingly inexplicable ethereal moment where you see, Matrix-style, everything coming together. When that time comes about is not as important as acting when the time is at hand.

    I don’t say this to counter the excellent advice that’s been presented, only as an adjunct to use for us weirdos that never did quite fit into the usual paradigms.

  41. While certain ages and decades do present their milestones and foray into greater achievements, I realized about seven years ago, that when it is my time, then it’s my time. When it’s your time, then it’s your time, not solely based on a numerical age–an seemingly inexplicable ethereal moment where you see, Matrix-style, everything coming together. When that time comes about is not as important as acting when the time is at hand.

    “Life is what happens while you’re waiting around for for your real Life to start.”

    You’re right that you can’t “force” the issue of goals and/or epiphanies which per se are not a product of mere chronology…

    But as the proverbial truism goes, in answer to those who rely on luck or fate or “when the right moment comes, it comes”::

    “The harder I worked, the luckier I got.”

  42. You’re right that you can’t “force” the issue

    Nowhere did I mention forcing the issue or anything of the like; either peripherally or indirectly.

    To repeat myself: I wasn’t countering what anyone said. My message was for folks such as myself, just sharing of my own experience.

  43. I think a distinction must be made between Generation Xers born from 65-72 and 73-81. One thing I notice about 73-81 Xers is their acceptance of the black culture. My dad is a 65-72 Xer and grew up watching Steve McQueen, Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson movies and listening to Skynyrd, Zeppelin, Waylon Jennings.. He grew up old enough to want to be Evel Knievel and Joe Namath as a kid but my uncles, ten years younger, grew up wanting to be Mr. T and Michael Jordan. Dads group thought the Fonz from Happy Days was cool whereas the later Xers were aping Gary Coleman’s “whatch you talkin bout Willis?” The 80s was a decade that those late Xers were totally brainwashed on how much cooler blacks were to whites.

    I think the Xers born in the mid to late 70s were hit hard with the negro worship in the 80s and many that I know in their early 40s were ok with the OJ verdict. They are also the ones who were cool with NWAs “Fuck the Police”, Vedders anti-gun rantings. The older Xers I know skew conservative/libertarian and the ones now in their early-mid forties are liberal. I could be wrong but this is the pattern I’ve noticed in co-workers and family over the years.

  44. Nowhere did I mention forcing the issue or anything of the like; either peripherally or indirectly.

    To repeat myself: I wasn’t countering what anyone said. My message was for folks such as myself, just sharing of my own experience.

    I didn’t say you did… I put quotes around “force” for lack of a better term in my language, responding your point (which I agreed was valid) about how sometimes, no matter how hard one works or tries (or doesn’t work or try), we bloom when we bloom.

    My added point was that, it’s always better to err on the side of trying.

    Sheesh! I knew what I meant, why didn’t you? lzozlzozlzozlzozlzolzolz

  45. KB, good analysis. Being of the the 65-72 group, I said this to a friend in 1992, and he agreed then, and also 20 years later: “We have more in common with people ten years older than three years younger than us.”

    It centers, like you say, on television’s switch from White to black pop culture.

    We’re all still GenX in the shared generational qualities as per comments above. Qualitatively different from Boomers and Millennials. But that 72/73 split is real. It also goes to show the power of (((centralized))) media of its time.

    The embrace of black culture by our younger cohort was not deep. It was conformity and tolerance rather than a genuine cultural shift.

    Some Millennials’ “fagginess” in later decades was a collective attempt to shake off the black culture by fleeing to its perceived opposite extreme .

  46. My folly, Greg. I do appreciate the follow up as it was what I was trying to say originally.

    Cheers

  47. It centers, like you say, on television’s switch from White to black pop culture.

    Some under-30 white guys/girls in my office were talking glowingly about Cardi B today. Yes, Cardi B.

  48. Another thing that affected me as a Gen X-er was watching people my age go from 98% White (elementary school):

    to a handful more brown kids with funny names who acted mostly White but it was weird to hang out after school in their homes that smelled of weird cooking (high school):

    to “Where did all these Asian and Indian colleagues come from and why is it difficult to connect with them?” (young adult):

    to “Why can’t I seem to hire anybody who cares about doing as good of a job as I was raised to do?” (30s):

    to today: “Don’t complain to or about the inept foreign, black, or shitlib ‘help’ or they will hurt you through violence and false claims.”

    I’ve become a stranger in my own home. Just one step away from becoming a a full outcast.

  49. there is one inexcusable, singularly Gen X, cultural fail. If I may be so presumptuous, I’ll leave it as a challenge to readers for a day or so. 🙂 I will give a hint: it mostly afflicts the women. Somewhat ironically, it combines Boomers’ worst trait (narcissism) and probably Millennials’ biggest cultural fad (still on-going, alas).

    Alex, I will go with: What is Social Media?

    But does social media afflict Gen X differently than boomers, and the younger generations? Facebook came online and got popular with my gen x peer group 13 or so years ago. I place the date easily, because it was just prior to the 20-year hs reunion. It came at just the right time for us. Suddenly everyone had a chance to find out what happened to so-and-so, to see how they were doing; or more cynically and realistically, to see how they turned out. I myself wasn’t so cynical as that yet.

    Social Media is the answer though, right? If so, how and why is it a “cultural fail” particular to Gen X. The other age groups are as messed up with it; or perhaps they are not? The younger generations certainly have a different relationship with social media. I would only reveal my ignorance to write on them, with it. Boomers are the last remaining facebookers, and they are tired of it and cynical on it too now, for the most part.

    Twelve or thirteen years ago it was a chance to make yourself out to be more than you were, and to sleep with so-and-so, despite her advancing years. It sucks that social media and facebook particularly, went off the rails like it did, with their censorship. It’s kind of a meta complaint. Things wouldn’t be like they were, if they weren’t like they were. But even still, that they don’t allow free speech, is something. Relatedly, google is cancelling google hangouts, and no reasons given. The conclusion presented by the Wrecking Crew is simply that it was “too much goyim knowing.” They are absolutely correct in their conclusion. Something like google hangouts, is the culmination of the internet, and it requires a monopoly. The goys built this but now don’t get to use it. What a deal!

  50. PA, I have to fully agree with your observation here. I’ve actually had that same conversation with a first wave Xer and we agreed pop culture is mainly to blame but divorce rates factor in hard because so many kids lacked respectable male figures. From what I’ve noticed the first wave of Gen-X has more grit than the later bunch. I don’t know if that’s because they spent more time outside as kids than the the younger cohorts who played alot of Nintendo and were the first VHS/cable TV generation that began the trend of kids sitting on their ass all summer. My dad, from the first wave, never played video games and was always on his bike, in the Scouts, playing baseball or fishing. TV wasn’t watched in the early-mid 70s until evening after dinner.

    The (((centralized))) media you speak of was the same group (Jerry Heller/Rick Rubin) that pushed rap and sold it to suburban white kids. This carried over pretty much until I was in high school in the early 00s where it was either the wigger culture of pants hanging down, rap and weed stink kids who snorted their moms pain pills off their desktop in class OR “emo” punk, Marilyn Manson/Slipknot/Korn, MySpace selfie, suicidal middle class brats that wouldn’t listen to a Beach Boys or Creedence record if you put a gun to their head. That group became the black-rim glasses hipsters that now manage retirement accounts for boomers, March for Choice, run 5k marathons in support of some AIDS awareness nonsense and hang out at the afterwards at the local brewery to suck down overpriced IPAs while bitching about Trump.

  51. mendo
    Where they drinking Bacardi?

    Black people have no real taste in good spirits and simply drink whatever they’re hearing about in the latest rap songs.

    Later the rappers all started talking about Moscato – which is, of course, a high-culture Italian desert wine but they like it because it’s fruity and they drink it out of solo cups like idiots. Then later someone made songs about Courvoisier and Hennessee (Henny) which is stuff that you sip and savor properly and you don’t mix it with stupid Hi-C grape juice.

    Of course, all of the great liquors are now adding all types of fruity flavored options to keep the young black and hispanic crowd buying their cheesy products now.

  52. “Yes, Cardi B.” // “…drinking Bacardi?”

    Kenneth Minogue put forth in a late-90s essay, with the decadent tech sphere already in mind: “…all that is available to us is our culture ‘as formulated,’ which is a small and insignificant part of what we are… The reality is that cultural exhaustion is passing itself off as le dernier cri.”

    The whole revelation riddle is bound up with legitimate ‘surprise,’ a phenomenon which needn’t be drenched in the superlative. Contemplating the piquant arrangement of objects; treating conversations like the very Milky Way’s psychical explorations, which they are; reading and striving knowing your time here is borrowed from God; fully savoring the preternatural texture of the material world: in wine & stone, in cigar & steel. Your experiences are of the same interstellar fabric that created the planets & seasons. Knowing and living this fact is the way through these imitation bacardi backwashes and into the vintage Athiri springs, wading in visions of calla-white delight that the centuries will salute to with the empyrean tides that precede the sea.

  53. It always amazes me how Hispanics and asians would always gravitate towards nog noise. I guess since MTV was doing it’s best to promote that garbage, they figured it was “in” and the thing to do, listen to.

    Seeing sleepy eyes asians acting like rappers, what with the ghetto dialogue and intonation, always drew a quiet laugh from me. They had no culture of their own because they weren’t in their homelands.

    Messicans will do anything to not get deported; the word alone was used for the disclaimer on MTV’s Beavis and Butthead, mainly for laughs, which is now considered a racial epithet. Funnily enough, Mike Judge is a soy bitch

    On that note, Beavis and Butthead made fun of that second half of GenXers

  54. “On that note, Beavis and Butthead made fun of that second half of GenXers”

    And Todd was a perfect example of tough petty criminal Whites who were very common up thru the 80s.

    (Those “mechanic” shirts with sewn on nametags were briefly in fashion in 1994.)

  55. Hipsters would wear them with the wrong name tag. They still are popular, in some circles. “Dean” or “Billy” be names to fetch an extra buck or two at the second-hand store. Harold, Van, Vincent, Ernest. Just recently at cardboard box factory long-term temp assignment job a WI hipster, Gen Z, made an appearance for a day or two but couldn’t make it work. I was disappointed, he had potential. He woulda been intimately familiar with the above look; half the people in rural WI still dress like that. He was dressed like that except it was ironic. I kid you not, he wore a silk scarf and brought his lunch in a potato sack. Over stylized irony or whatever. Otherwise he was a normal kid, lanky and tall. It’s crucial for olders to keep in mind, that these younger people are not enough often getting the right positive reinforcement.

  56. “Over stylized irony”

    Nice phrase. It’s also about trying on a style or identity without it just happening organically. A not-uncommon thing for the under-25 dudes.

  57. @ Mendo

    Seeing sleepy eyes asians acting like rappers, what with the ghetto dialogue and intonation, always drew a quiet laugh from me. They had no culture of their own because they weren’t in their homelands.

    You’ll see that a lot more from the shorter, dumber, browner (Southeast) Asians, though (Vietnamese but especially Filipino). You’ll rarely see that from Japanese or South Koreans.

    Koreans often refer to Southeast Asians as “Jungle Asians” behind their backs. Japanese people also feel that way about SE Asians even though they often have less occasion to encounter them since they leave their home country far less than any other Asians.

  58. @ INDY

    I used to manage a bar. We didn’t serve Hennessy or Courvoisier. It worked.

    Choosing the right music and leaving fried foods off the menu also does the trick.

  59. There is speculation that Japanese have partial European ancestry from prehistory, similar to North American Indians. How much of it is truth vs myth, I don’t know.

  60. Yup, the majority of those sleepy eyes that I encountered were Vietnamese and Filipinos; just a handful of Chinese.

    I knew a Korean lady and she told me that their nickname for Chinese was chow mein. I was dying!

  61. RE: Gen X unique, inexcusable cultural fail that is uniquely theirs

    First it’s not anything huge that would alter history in any form or fashion — hey, Gen X… QED. Didn’t mean to over-sell it. May be that threw folks off the trail?

    And it isn’t social media. That has hammered every age group nearly 8 to 80.

    It’s getting tatt-ed up well past the age one should know better. Sure among Millennials, Hipsters and prole women are still heavily into the fad, but they are also still yet of an age in which it’s (mildly) excusable.

    However, Gen X, and our women in particular, didn’t start tattooing until well past the age they should know better. Worse, the further past the age they get, the more tattoos they get. Show me a Gen X woman post-wall (I reckon at 6 months to 2020 that is being redundant) with a soy-cuck husband, and I’ll show you a woman with a (growing, sigh) number of ill-advised and ill-placed tattoos.

    There’s still time for Millennials to follow the fad past the age of which it is excusable, but even so they started down that road when they were young enough not to know better. Gen X women, and men, have no such excuse. For that, I’m calling it the single and distinguishing cultural fail of Gen X: it’s both Gen X one fail, and it’s unique to Gen X.

  62. RE: Japanese prehistoric ad-mixture. I’ve seen that too. One can muh Hajnal Line all one wants, but that won’t account for the Japanese.

  63. Someone mentioned “stylized irony” and it reminds me of a post Lawrence Auster put up on View From the Right titled “The Soft Bigotry of Ubiquitous Irony”:

    “The irony is a way of indicating that the subject under discussion need not be taken with true seriousness. It is a way of saying, “this thing I am talking about is not important; nothing is important. It is, rather, all merely absurd and ridiculous. No intelligent person cares deeply about any of it.”

    The pervasively ironic response is demonic. It is nihilism carried into practice in commentary on the happenings of daily life. What could be more important than the happenings of daily life? What else is there, aside from the happenings of daily life?”

  64. Auster’s take on Trump would have been interesting. He’d have been for him in 2016 is my take. An early indicator on which way Republican voters would have gone (maga vs nevertrump) was their gut reaction to Sarah Palin eight years earlier.

    Palin freaked a lot of people out because she represented implicit Whiteness with her five children, cowboy husband and frontier-like Alaska life. She was an in-your-face repudiation of barren feminism. Her folksy airhead affectations drove a certain type of lib batshit. And nothing gave those people more vicious glee than the undignified drama surrounding one of her daughters and Levi Johnston.

    She was sort of a forerunner to Trump’s unkiking of culture. And all attention turned away from her when Trump took the spotlight in 2015.

    Auster’s gut reaction suggests that he’d have supported Trump. He liked Palin and referred to her as “an American original.” Though he was very pro-Jewish (himself a Jew of course, and a convert to Christianity), he didn’t have that instinctive fear of White vitality, or at least he suppressed it. Palin, of course, represented that White racial life force.

    His main criticism of her was her unserious and feminist persona, in the sense of apparent attention-seeking and overshadowing her husband in the public eye.

  65. To me the event horizon of Irony was the late 90s and Barenaked Ladies “One Week.” (Though I always liked that song). The ur-ironic posture in line with the Auster passage above:

    I’m the kind of guy who laughs at a funeral…
    I have a tendency to wear my mind on my sleeve

    Around the same time a young West Virginian named Jedediah Purdy wrote a best seller on the culture of irony. Just this very month he became a professor of law at Columbia Law School.

    Then 9/11 happened and public figures proclaimed that to be the end of the ironic era. Certainly, there was deep seriousness in the air until George W Bush told America to go shopping and said “religion of peace” and then smashed young Millennials’ patriotic idealism in Iraq.

  66. Is the definition of GenX “I don’t care”?

    Pierre, I Don’t Care, A Cautionary Tale…we all grew up with it, or most of us, consciously or not.

    Anything goes, seemed to be the thing. Madonna f***ed a black Jesus in her seminal video…I didn’t go there. Madonna was not my thing. I went more metal, punk, and hardcore. But Madonna, yeah, she was what girls who desired boys were supposed to be.

    And age and maturity and marriage and children have all exposed the lie, but it continues to be told.

    I don’t know what men want, and I won’t say. I don’t think Madonna or Cardi b or Miley Cyrus or x or y or z are it, but that’s up to what is enforced and preferred.

    Much angst over “society” sexualizing “our girls” has been wrought and thought. Girls are perfectly capable of sexualizing themselves. “I know what boys like, I know what guys want…boys like me.”

    To pretend that girls are innocent is folly. We know this but millions don’t acknowledge it.

  67. And Palin kept her feminine figure even after pushing out those five kids.

    I still recall in class that one girl was misappropriating the “I can see Russia from my house” line to her, even though it was Tina Fey that made that comment.

    Egghead professor always liked hearing the usual cliched talk about her.

    I was such a goober at the time that I was in that “go along to get along” camp, and even then no liked me. haha

  68. Today I learned that the Blade Runner replicant’s name was Roy Batty. Fun fact for some of us.

  69. Not sure why the alt-right has always given Sarah Palin a free pass for her admitted hookup with NBA player Glen Rice, though.

    “Once you go black, you’re too much of a bacterial risk for me to take you back”

  70. Surprisingly absent from this conversation on generational traits, and where the culture war shifted, is the prevalence of Paul Harvey. I remember his Christianity-infused philosophical segments with great fondness: moral, upbeat, proud of America. I dare suggest his removal from the spotlight might be one of- if not the best- markers of cultural decline.

  71. It’s getting tatt-ed up well past the age one should know better.

    Fair enough. I was thinking of getting one though: To celebrate not having any. It would be very Rothko-esque.

  72. Barenaked Ladies got busted at the airport for having cocaine. It was just a small amount for personal use. But it was a big scandal because it went against their clean cut image. The title of their band is a pretty pedestal, is it not?

    They were a “tight” group, in the good (musical) sense. But they also apparently liked to get their coke-and-whores on. Somewhat relatedly was the obvious revelation, a couple few years ago now and courtesy of the Stormer and or MPC, was that Jim Carrey’s whole persona was a coke binge. That crazy manic energy and confidence, was just him on coke. Insiders in the Business would have known this as a matter of course, as would have most worldly people, but it wasn’t common knowledge to his fans. To them it was as if he knew something about the secret of life, that they didn’t. This came out, to the extent that it did, when he made despairing comments of couple years ago about his life being meaningless. Too much cocaine can really drain a person. I see people like that in the AA.

    Contra to that is a personality like youtuber Chris Dangerfield, who did literal tons of coke but manages to come through it on the other side. He has a particular video I will fish out, it is titled —

    I chat with Rupert Everett about whoring (High on Diazepam)

    It’s 17 minutes long and the good part starts at 10 minutes. It’s the man himself making an appearance on British television, talking as a professional comic but seriously, about his use and liking of Asian whores. Let’s just say he was ahead of manosphere curve and by a lot. In my estimation he is a top dog, in the general and broad category of performance artists.

  73. The three youtubers who are the top three on my list are, and not in particular order —

    1. Dangerfield
    2. Keith Woods
    3. Dr. Edward Dutton: The Jolly Heretic

    Keith Woods is Gen Z and from Ireland. He likes to talk philosophy and particularly ontology. His latest video is Stay Off My Lawn Nationalism. It is totally required viewing, for anyone in this our thing and sincere in his intellectualism. He makes a STRONG case that (ethnic) nationalism, is the answer, and further that it’s not boomer stay-off-my-lawn nationalism. The idea seems simple enough, and perhaps it is; he describes it eloquently.

    The Jolly Heretic is also an Irishman, and something of a legend. His themes are very CH, and if anything he is more well versed in that stuff than was CH himself. He is a professional academic and has a wicked sense of humor. Sometimes he tends to talk too fast. He wrote the book about judging people by their looks. And him talking about that stuff is helpful for people to keep in mind, if they are trying to figure out their own place in things. Because maybe their own looks.

    A particular video of his to recommend is called —

    Episode 22: Jordan Peterson: ‘He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very Gnostic Boy’

    which is a takedown of Peterson. Not exactly current haps, but it’s the most eviscerating and intellectual takedown that I seen. It’s also informative on the nature of “charismatics” aka gurus, which is what Peterson was playing. He discusses their role in society, and has some insights on the nature of religion. His is a casual and profound wisdom and intelligence. Highest ratings.

  74. I don’t think that ethnic nationalism is the answer, and I am not presuming to paraphrase and say that’s what Woods was saying.

    Ethnic Nationalism is, however, a starting point and step in the right direction, and a clear goal for political advocacy. It’s the best clear goal for real world politics. Maybe.

    It’s not the answer though, because any long term solution will have to be global in its scale. In some of Woods’ other videos, he discusses how isolated incidents of ethnic nationalism such as in Hungary, will not stand a chance against Globohomo.

  75. Somewhat relatedly was the obvious revelation, a couple few years ago now and courtesy of the Stormer and or MPC, was that Jim Carrey’s whole persona was a coke binge. That crazy manic energy and confidence, was just him on coke.

    Judging by his on-screen behavior, Jim Carrey has always been on waaaaaay more than just coke.

  76. Carrey peaked out huge and disappeared and then more recently, seemed totally spent. I don’t know that he ever copped to coke being the problem. A lot of folks online suggested as much and it fits the available evidence, which is to say his persona and its arc. A lot of people have intense manic qualities w/o the drugs, and a lot of performers and creative types especially. Comedians though in particular are vulnerable to that drug because of the confidence that it conveys. Chris Farley and that skinny nigger Richard Pryor were both massive cokeheads. Chris Farley was a famous hick from WI until he went to Chicago and his fate was sealed. He was apparently an excellent athlete, in the usual cast of a high end all conference-level, high school footballer: “He moved well for a big man.” Quick on his feet, strong; good vision. A good man. And now he’s gone

    Carrey appeared on Leno in the peak of his fame, sometime in the mid-90s and did this schtick about having a magic word and it was “Cinnamon” and it was actually pretty stupid but he could do no wrong: then. The audience ate it up. If coke wasn’t part of that performance, color me purple.

    How many guests on Leno and those shows would coke up? Bradley Cooper on Letterman, one time at least, at the peak of his stardom after The Hangover, had to have been coked up. He was practically popping out of his eyeballs. He threw out the interesting trivia that The Hangover was the most sold DVD in the history of DVDs. The all time coked out appearance though was on The Arsenio Hall Show, and the guest-in-question? — wait for it — Dana Plato from Different Diff’rent Strokes. The producers cut her off with an early break. It was that painful to watch. I happened to catch it “live” or whatever it was, back in the day, and me and my viewing friend could just not believe it. We knew even then as teenagers that she was having drug-induced mental health breakdown. Last I looked it appears to have been scrubbed from youtube.

  77. Cocaine deserves a mention as part of Gen X and the 80s. Was it particular to Gen X or the 80s. Of course not. Was it used more by those people or in those times? I don’t know. It’s always a popular drug. The jokes about it, are too easy, and besides they’ve all been made. Chris “Rock” had a good one about somebody doing cocaine and saying: That was GREAT: now I just need something STRONGER ———> Crack

    I found out through the grapevine that the popular crowd in high school was very much into two things:

    1. Doing coke
    2. Having sex

    We knew about the second but not the first. I was no square and part of the larger partying rebel crowd, but coke was not a part of our scene. One friend on one occasion, was it.

    High School is another topic unto itself, which deserves mention as part of Gen X. I think Sailer wrote something about it and deserves a h/t for this famous joke: Your therapist used to ask about your parents but now they’ll need to know about high school. That joke no longer even works anymore though; right?

    High School changed, and perhaps around the Gen X split detailed above. High School was Life, High School was a community. But somewhere along the way it stopped being those things; or it might would seem to have.

  78. Since I am manic posting, I will share this detail. A have a high school reunion tomorrow no less, to which I will not be going. It is at a bar literally down the street, which in itself would be ok if said bar weren’t try-hard bar extraordinaire. And a cover charge.

    Pay 20 bux to hang around try-hard mega-bar with people you don’t know and for the most part, don’t like? …

    If it weren’t for the 20 bux? Maybe. But the topic of hs and reunions. I don’t think they mean as much to those who graduated after the 80 and early 90s. We heard A LOT about how schools had become much more impersonal. And they were always unfriendly. Hahaha. So imagine the combination. They were never nice but at least you knew who the other people were!

    Despite this being a bad look: There are two guys I would start trouble with, at my advanced age. I am fairly sure I could back them down and I have grudges against them from June, 1984. It’s a stupid idea, and evidence of not being 100 per cent ok personally. And on the practical, get real: fighting is not allowed. You don’t get to glass someone, and who wants to risk his own hands and health.

    I was a sensitive kid and got put in my place. It’s ok but on the other hand it hurts. I thought about going and maybe hanging at the bar, and seeing who is around. Talk about “pathetic” in the true sense of the word. There is a great line from a Vince Vaughn movie, back when he made movies with his big-faced jew partner what’s-his-name. Vince is giving some hard won and heartfelt life advice to his struggling bestie —

    — You don’t wanna be “the guy” hanging alone at Friday’s, talkin about how you rocked high school

    — But I did rock in high school!

    The movie was the one where they went on a vacay, two couple and then a third nigger couple, and it became real important news because the promo posters put the niggers in the background.

  79. Jim Carrey has admitted to having some pretty serious mental health issues. If he is staying out of the public eye it’s probably for his own well being.
    I admired Sarah Palin for the way she handled Sacha Baren Cohen. She stood her ground with him, which I imagine is not an easy thing to do.

  80. From a career perspective, it seemed as though Carrey wanted to do serious roles, e.g. Truman Show, The Majestic.

    Though by that time, the audience had already relegated him to the manic goofball they knew him as. I guess he wanted to follow another coked up comic–Robin Williams–a la Good Will Hunting, but Williams had done his time so to speak, as there were several years from his normal routine versus the seemingly quick shift Carrey was attempting.

    Not that it was outside of Carrey’s range, as he has a bit part in Peggy Sue Got Married and does well with the role when it calls for serious time.

    I always thought he could have pushed comedy into another realm since he had that malleable, plasticine face that could morph into whatever the scene/situation called for. He could have been the Lon Chaney of comedy. My film professor once opined: just let him do his schtick.

  81. I seem to remember Paul Harvey going off the air around 1989–which we previously discussed was the year that the conspicuous browning of pop music began.

  82. Harvey was on the radio up to 2008. I remember listening to him on the bus to school in the 90s because our driver was a conservative guy who worked three jobs and loved Harvey. Sat in the seats near the front to hear it. Great speaking voice.

    Anyone else notice the Mr. Rogers worship going on these days? They put a documentary out last year and now Tom Hanks has a movie coming out. I liked watching it some as a kid. I was the last generation he entertained while alive. He seems to be an avatar for cat ladies and bugmen hipsters because he was so nice and mannerly (obviously comparing him to Trump). He seemed like a decent man but I wouldn’t want to be stuck in a fox hole with him or Bob Ross for that matter.

  83. Jim Carrey has admitted to having some pretty serious mental health issues.

    Despite his recent lip-flapping at Donald Trump, Jim Carrey got sued by the wife of his ex-fiance a few years ago, she committed suicide and her family alleged that he supplied the drugs, got her depressed, gave her STD’s, etc.

    Isn’t this just the cutest little spritely Irish girl you could imagine?

    Some of the deposition stuff is public and it paints the typical Hollywood picture that you’d imagine about his lifestyle. In a prior generation, this lovely gal never would’ve had the chance to make dumb decisions chasing a lunatic celebrity and then dying in vain, scorn, embarrassment and mockery, she would’ve passed happy and with children who could inherit her genes.

    Chris Farley and that skinny nigger Richard Pryor were both massive cokeheads. Chris Farley was a famous hick from WI until he went to Chicago and his fate was sealed.

    The Miami vice-level coke you could get from 70’s – 90’s was several times more powerful than what you can get today. Homeland security and 9/11 have now driven up the price and tightened security greatly. It’s hard to find stuff on that kind of purity level any longer, especially when you’re no longer able to often get it from white dealers, you’re having to rely on Obama supporters in the supply chain and they cut it greatly to find profit.

    Or, at least, that’s what I once read someplace, allegedly.

  84. My bad re: Paul Harvey. I dunno if it was my local (left coast) radio who stopped airing him or if my memory just fails me.

  85. Bob Ross spent a long career as a master sergeant in the USAF, his gentle demeanor came from his desire to never have to yell and force people to do work. I think he’d do alright in a foxhole.

    Mister Rogers. I used to watch his show, I liked it, generally. Way better than Sesame Street, or the two hippie ladies of the Magic Garden, Susan and Sharon, who sang a lot of kumbayah at us through the screen. Fred Rogers seemed like an alright guy, a folksy trained minister who genuinely liked to see children learning Christian values.

    I don’t recall any scandal being attached to him, and maybe that’s why people are so hot to follow his story. But Tom Hanks portraying him…I don’t know. Tom Hanks is wholesome and awww-shucks on his face too, but those whom read Neon Revolt might have a different opinion. He’s part of the Hollywood machine, that’s pretty much all I need to know.

    People get tired of being grown up, and want some innocent nostalgia now and then…more like “always” lately, but you can’t go home again.

    I try not to take much pleasure in burst bubbles, but I was really thrilled when the Boomer parents of a friend went to Austria and did the “Sound of Music” tour of the von Trapp lands, and learned that Rodgers and Hammerstein made up about 85% of the story, and that “Edelweiss” wasn’t really a national folk song…hahahahaha I was just dying from the schadenfreude and I just kept filling in details (I’d read Maria’s biography and the real story of the von Trapp family).

    People want to believe in goodness to the extent that they won’t see reality. This is a huge threat…or maybe an asset, in determining who stays, who goes.

  86. @chakrates

    I knew that about Bob Ross and I reckon you’re right about his credentials as a possible badass. I watched a couple episodes of his show earlier in the summer one night before bed and enjoyed his happy nature for a change. I get enough shitty attitudes throughout my day.

    I agree with your view on the need for nostalgia. I’m a sentimental type so I’ll always have a need to revisit those markers in my past. Things I loved 20 years ago no longer have the same allure to me now. As a kid I loved Jim Carrey and always imitated his characters. As an adult I learn about the Hollywood and its perverted, commie ways and I see him as a miserable man who probably led a beautiful young woman to her death so he could feed his endless desire for more. If only he’d repent of his decadence and accept Christ he would be much better off.

    I’m troubled by your last line about “who stays and goes”. I hope you’re not talking about who lives or dies. That sounds a lot like Stalin or Ho Chi Minh. All we can do is guide our family and friends little by little to the reality. Trust me, I was a lot happier before I knew this shit and I often struggle with how much I talk about the topics on blogs like this one because I don’t think some people I love can stomach it.

  87. KB, trouble over those things is natural but immaterial. You might not like trouble, but the trouble will like you.

    I’ve grown hard, and I only care for my own, and I think that is right and just. I’m not out for blood, but I won’t hesitate to take it come me or them.

  88. Just based on that girl’s smile alone do I find her bun worthy.

    Something about a girl’s smile can almost tell you all you need to know. Well, not all, but enough I should say.

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  90. I was a skinhead in the 80s, during my teen years. Hardly any of my Gen X peers wanted to listen to my warnings and now things are more fucked up than I would have imagined. Instead, most of you guys were wannabe jocks (And still are – the Superbowl must be the biggest cosplay event each year), you were the first wave of withers, you did nothing about anything and the troubles to come were right in front of you.

    My advice to you now is to stop apologizing, stop praying a out everything, stop being afraid of associating with white nationalists and actually do something this time.

  91. Just based on that girl’s smile alone do I find her bun worthy.

    It’s your bun, and her oven.

  92. Personally speaking, I never found episodes of Seinfeld funny, even in its heyday. Kramer I didn’t mind- but eccentric types are prone to be found funny regardless due to their random nature. As a whole, the format was unoriginal, and there were no morals. Hell, even Fresh Prince had morals about life. Shoot, the Cosby Show had better humor and morals than Seinfeld.
    I cannot delineate between Seinfeld and How I Met Your Mother or Big Bang Theory. The laugh track carries the show, the content almost interchangeable.
    An example of a sitcom well-done? Meh, I’m not one for TV, but MASH and Home Improvement I did enjoy. What the writers did to the children in Home Improvement was disgusting.. but that’s also why I don’t waste my life in front of the tube. I only catch the random infrequent episode.

  93. As a whole, the format was unoriginal, and there were no morals.

    Just a show ’bout nuthin’.

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