My earlier question about President Trump’s physiognomy: Is it “businessman, playboy, neophyte” or is it “chess-player, wolf, king”? There was a good discussion on Gab yesterday about the aftermath of the ill-fated August 2017 Unite the Right rally. It’s reasonable to add that the torchlight march on the eve of the rally was brilliant and they should have left right afterwards. But that’s hindsight. Had they done that, there’d have been second-guessing of that decision.
(As always, let me know here or on Gab if you’d rather not be quoted by name/handle and I will change that to “reader”). What follows is comments from yesterday’s conversation.
PA: In the wake of Trump’s election, there was a nascent popular movement to take the streets and it was effective. Based Stick Man, antifa getting wedgies, Huntington Beach, Nathan Damigo. Trump dropped the ball badly by ceding all street violence to the Left after Charlottesville.
Tom Kawczynski: I’ve come to believe Charlottesville was a well-laid trap. Because it destroyed street activism.
PA: It did work out that way. Did it have to, though?
TK: I think so. The first rule of battle is never fight on terrible ground. There was no way to win there, yet we keep going to the colleges, the very citadel of our transformation, instead of showing our strength and numbers in the places our people rest.
The desire to fight overwhelmed the strategic concerns, and walking into an area where the government was hostile, the police were deceitful, and the media was just waiting could, at best, only have been an event to survive. I do not say this to defame brave men who went out. I say this because it’s not enough to just be brave. We must be wise as serpents to win the battles we face now.
PA: Charlottesville marchers gambled on Trump backing them. He didn’t. It was a self-sacrificial move on the participants’ part that could have delivered a high reward. The MAGA political class had an opportunity to destroy antifa and amplify the message of White replacement. Instead, Trump hemmed and hawed with GWB-tier rhetoric about “alt-left.” And allowed China-tier prison sentences for self-defense to stand.
TK: If true, it was a poor gamble. Trump was never their guy. The case against minorities had to be made on a moral basis, and they were asking the Republicans to go against thirty years of investment, foolish as it is, without having laid the ground work of why they were a danger.
What people needed to know is that the other is not bad. They simply do not want what we want, and we will be forced ultimately to choose between democracy – their new majority imposing the socialism both native to their roots and relentless cultivated or liberty – the old understanding of limited government which has been mostly a distinctly Eurocentric phenomenon.
Haste made waste, and we see the results. We needed a public level speaker at the Trump level who made this case, and we still do. It’s why I am elevating myself – not in the expectation of victory although it would be a pleasant surprise – but because that forces the question of how the changing population of America will almost certainly vote very differently.
And that’s the step that must be made now in reclamation because people don’t hear that logic, don’t know the demographic cliff we are likely already sliding down, and haven’t considered the long-term consequence.
It’s also why Trump is so terrible. Because he doesn’t seem to care. Peak Boomerism – If today is great, why worry for tomorrow?
Heartiste: This is a fair comment, but there is value in occasional displays of public extremism. One, unpredictability keeps the enemy unbalanced. Two, precision-guided shivs of extremism leave poison capsules in the ids of the enemy and of normie fence-sitters, which affect their emotional state and decision-making. The idea is that simply dropping nuggets of crimethink into converged skullcases forever alters their self-perception and the structure of the inner tactical flowchart which guides their responses to us. These changes can have amusing and often advantageous consequences, leading the enemy to overreach and normies to privately, secretly, in the quiet of a still night, reconsider everything they thought they knew about the world.
Kelly: Extremely well stated: “[quotes Heartiste above].” This makes me think this is the cause of their hysterical attempts to shut up dissident thinkers. They unconsciously fear that poison capsule, they are anxious and afraid the truth will loosen their titanium-hardened grip on their delusions, ultimately risking losing their delusions. Unbearable. Their idea of Hell on earth
BGKB Steve: Charlottesville was organized by a jew former CNN reporter occupy wall street activist Kessler. If TRUMP gave full support for it Kessler could have dragged him down like the 2 skanks that said Assange raped them. There were people warning not to go to Charlottesville because of the jew in charge & I reposted their warnings. TRUMP knows what a poison pill clause in a contract is.
TK: I don’t blame Trump for acting rationally here
Ted Colt: If you don’t see how Charlottesville was a rerun of the Garden of Gethsemane, you’re not paying attention. At the end, they sent a man to prison for life for a car accident. They would have executed somebody, but they couldn’t find the Son of God.