What the Asians are coming here for

The inimitable Trav submits his field report:

I just fucked me a chink today. she didn’t date asians bc their dicks are too small lol… poor guys. jfc she screamed so loud that i think i have some hearing damage. oh and she came a lot, could feel it, she was pretty tight… the depth really got her off like nobody’s business… that stretch area past the cervix

Something that the higher-tier Asians have in common with Whites: we value our bloodlines. Family bloodlines are generally safest in one’s own native country. Multiracial diaspora lands are a meat grinder. This raises a question — what are Asians looking for in the West? There is the obvious answer: the economic opportunities. The chance to easily scavenge off the wealth of the White nations that are governed by traitors. Asian immigrants, close to one hundred percent of them, are coming here to attain the comforts of Western middle class lifestyle like they see on television shows.

But what good does it do to get that easy credit for a late-model minivan and brag about it on Facebook to their relatives in, say, the Phillippines, when their sons are pulled out of their own marriage market and their daughters become slugs? (On that last one, I don’t recall ever seeing even one overweight girl the entire year I was in Korea. The young women were all slim and stylishly dressed. In America, the US-born East Asian girls are getting whacked with a fat-stick).

Some Asian immigrants get on the fast track to the professional upper-middle class, some even higher. But most of them don’t. Nevertheless, they all feel the pull toward the European people like bugs to light, with little apparent forethought about their children’s genetic destiny.

It’s one thing to carve out your fortune as part of a pioneer-race conquering a new colony. It’s also understandable when people move to an attractive homogeneous country with the intention of having their children marry into their host nation. But for breeding-conscious people, like many Asians, to plant their roots in a multicultural England or America, where immorality is deified and into which people from every shithole country in the world are pouring?

Asian demographics in an increasingly unstable America are projected to hold steady and modest, and that’s after you lump together all of the disparate brown and yellow peoples Asia, including Muslims. America, where hope for a restored First World future depends on an upheaval event followed by a resurgent, aggressive White nationalism. Given such demographic and political prospects of these transitionally multicultural, crumbing Western states, having their progeny get a shoutout in Trav’s field report ought to be the least of an Asian immigrant’s fears. Or to put it simply: they are chasing the minivan of their Universal Boomer* dreams at the price of their sons becoming incels and their daughters mudsharks.

*Shorthand for materialism and womanish status consciousness, ahistoric complacency, and indifference to what happens after they pass. The mentality knows no ethnic boundaries and is not exclusive to any one generation.

Here is an example of Subcontinental bloodline deterioration in the West. I’m fascinated by this three-generation time lapse. It could have been caused by inbreeding. Or it could be representative of the results of exposure to Western soy, corn syrup, and many immigrants’ general decadence of becoming brown welfare trash:

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A different universe but same dilemmas — a White reader at Chateau Heartiste writes:

I grew up in Apple Valley, MN. Whitest and best place I ever lived. 4th of July parades, riding bikes all summer, every kid played outside, sports, starry peaceful nights….

Then we moved to Miami…..culture shock. 40% white and violent, crime everywhere…but still the people seemed down to earth. Here in the DC suburbs in present day, the us and them divide, the tribalism, elitism, the shallow and pedantic (heh) nature of people is sickening.

I have to raise my kids here, to be brought up like we are in another time and place, while hardening them to the true nature of the beast within which we live.

Maybe the parents left Minnesota for the sake of a higher paying job. Geographic mobility is the devil of our time.

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93 thoughts on “What the Asians are coming here for

  1. We were talking about moving just yesterday. Not for money, but for peace.

    Jersey holds nothing for us save Mr. C’s job, and it’s a good job.

    But we’re facing having our small, 13:1 student:teacher ratio, mostly white, self-contained K-8 school being busted up for “regionalization.” I read that as “too white” (we’re 94% white in my town).

    Our local taxes increase, cost of gas increases, NJ is officially a Sanctuary State per our fuckwit carpetbagger governor, and generally I’m just not in a mood to see anything getting better.

    I’m a coward and a runaway. Eastern Tennessee looks very attractive. Not to make more, but to be able to live on what we have, with people we want to live near.

    CH quoted Twitter re: Omar, just recently. Unwittingly making an argument for the Ethnostate.

    Indeed.

  2. In all fairness, the sequence of pictures is meaningless without a corresponding picture of the mothers. Genes matter.

    And Asian women are amazing in bed. Heads and shoulders above all others.

  3. Doing what is best for one’s family comes first. Americans are moving around the country less-so to chase money and more so because they’re being ethnically cleansed. I want there to be a correction and a reckoning in my lifetime. The deep Appalachians are God’s country. They have their own reality. Depending on how far into the mountains you go, it’s good to be part of a local Baptist Church. Those are bona fide community bulwarks against meth addiction and general purposelessness.

  4. “…Miami…..culture shock.”

    I once knew a Taiwanese cellist that grew up in Miami. His sister used to flirt with me when I was in Miami to catch his concerts. Both of their faces turned eerily ruddy as I handled them soundly at classically-inspired drinking games, for very different reasons (of course). I still have recordings of his excellent capriccios buried in a hand-made suitcase that his sister gave me as a farewell gift somewhere. Will look for them at some point.

  5. attain the comforts of Western middle class lifestyle like they see on television shows

    This. A 1000 times this and not just Asians, everyone that’s coming here wants exactly that.

    Back to the Asians, living in the heart of it all, LA, I see this all the time and before I found this blog or even CH’s, I always knew something was amiss, that is, that “seeking-chasing” mentality of foreigners. I could never understand it.

    Not only do they want what they see on television and naturally movies, but they still think it’s the 80s (early 90s) version of America they’re coming to. Many of them grew up watching those movies and America was the only place that was ever going to become a reality.

    (Hmm, maybe when he calms down, Cappy’s on to something about Hollywood being a psychological lab.)

    And the worst part, they all buy into the “pop culture” and now “social media” version of America, which is the damn near polar opposite. They’ve been conditioned to think that’s being “American.” They all engage in conspicuous consumption to show you how American they really are.

    They all want to come here to get away from the places they left, but then feel alone, so they others to come and congregate, wanting to turn the place they now live into the place they left, wondering why it’s not like TV

  6. About those deteriorating faces, you wrote,

    “Here is an example of Subcontinental bloodline deterioration in the West. I’m fascinated by this three-generation time lapse. It could have been caused by inbreeding. Or it could be representative of the results of exposure to Western soy, corn syrup, and many immigrants’ general decadence of becoming brown welfare trash.”

    Far more likely to be a case of moving from a hot climate with endless direct sun rays to England with its cloudy, cool conditions, thereby causing Vitamin D deficiency. Any structural degradation in the body – look to vitamin D status. That is #1. This will happen quickly with DPs from hot countries. The little bit of Vit D added to milk is not enough to compensate.

    Of course we Europeans have vitamin D deficiency as well, but not as dramatically noticeable as in the South Asians, since our skin is lighter to accommodate the lesser amount of ultraviolet B (UVB) rays needed.

    Also, with white people, we are constantly hounded to slather on the sunscreen products. Ghastly advice.

  7. Excellent point, Mendo. Captain Obvious shoots from the hip but his intuition is good. I never looked back on “Friends” the same way after reading his comments about that show. As one European girl once remarked to me upon her first acquaintance with the US and its Diverse peoplescape: “America is the world’s dumpster…”

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  9. As one European girl once remarked to me upon her first acquaintance with the US and its Diverse peoplescape: “America is the world’s dumpster…”

    She should talk.

  10. Thank heavens I’m Texan. “She should talk” indeed…

    L’american zoos are ‘infiltrated with zombies,’ etc etc.

  11. She didnt say that as an insult to America. She was surprised and disappointed with how many obvious non-Americans there are in the United States.

  12. “Here is an example of Subcontinental bloodline deterioration in the West. I’m fascinated by this three-generation time lapse. It could have been caused by inbreeding. Or it could be representative of the results of exposure to Western soy, corn syrup, and many immigrants’ general decadence of becoming brown welfare trash.”

    Far more likely to be a case of moving from a hot climate with endless direct sun rays to England with its cloudy, cool conditions, thereby causing Vitamin D deficiency. Any structural degradation in the body – look to vitamin D status. That is #1. This will happen quickly with DPs from hot countries. The little bit of Vit D added to milk is not enough to compensate.

    Vitamin D may have something to do with diminishing “dentofacial” growth, and it may not.

    First of all. This is an exciting new word. This will be fun to make the rounds with. It’s all dentofacial now.

    Secondly it’s a huge theme. “I am but a lesser son of greater sires.” From Homer, to the Bible, to Tolkien.

    Thirdly. It’s not just vitamin D. Or maybe it is. I have no idea, I don’t do science. But it’s happened to White people living in the same places too. Yes, we spend more time indoors.

    It’s feedback loops and epigenetics and blah blah blah.

    Look at people from the yearbooks in the local high school, from 1975 and compare them to following decades.

  13. The more people are connected to the Matrix, or advanced societies in one form or another, the less impressive physical bodies they need to have in order to propagate their genes.

    Grip strength. Dentofacial development. T-levels. Dick size. Sperm count. These are good things but otoh it’s not the Bronze Age anymore and it never will be again.

    Dick size will be the last holdout however, of the Big Five listed above. Or maybe sperm count has to be.

  14. Apple Valley as mentioned in the original post, is no longer a White paradise. It got built out in the suburban expansion of the 1990s, mostly. And then again more recently it got populated by Somalis. They are everywhere around here, but they congregate in that place especially.

    It is a suburban hellscape of the first order. Roads and second rate houses and “new Americans”. Traffic problems and mall culture.

    Apple Valley. How ironic is that name. Kunstler gets credit for the joke that suburban development gets its name from whatever used to be there before they paved it over. It is truly tragic. Literally half the municipalities in the south metro Twin Cities, are named for their bountiful harvest qualities. They were beautiful landscapes. Now not so much. There are still some horse farms down there. It’s Dakota County, named after the Sioux tribe that was there when it got named. They had their rebellion in the 1870s was it? where they killed a bunch of White settlers. Some of the last fighting indians.

  15. Pretty much everyone’s got weaker faces now though. Not everyone, but on average faces are weaker.

    Strong faces are less likely to be symmetrical. There’s a math equation type expression, to describe this.

    Potential energy versus expressed life force, that sort of thing. There’s totally science behind it. This will have been expressed on the chans in a math equation. It’s not that complicated but it’s apparently somewhat complicated.

    Everyone gets so much life energy. Every one’s allotment is not the same. Allotments are distributed on a bell curve. Said life energy is expressed, or not. Said expression is over the course of time. Often times, the time is cut short. These are the parameters of the equation.

    How is said energy expressed? Life’s rich pageant.

  16. Do you remember the guy from high school who was a throwback, who coulda been a bodyguard to King Harald Finehair?

    We had one such guy. His name was Gary, which is ironic. He was difficult to get along with, even among the high status jocks he didn’t fit in. Oddly enough, in spite of remarkable size and strength, his best sport was downhill skiing. He could “pop a heli” in a field of moguls and moved like a cat.

    I saw him some years later at the Cabooze, a famous local bar, sitting alone and perched on a corner chair and eyeballing the whole barroom like a psycho path. What are people with his potential supposed to do, in order to express their life force? Someone like him would have to join a motorcycle or something like that, in order to “be at peace.”

  17. What separates alt-rite from the cuckservatives is a passion for “radical sexual autonomy.” The former with much. The latter with little. Sexual fascination with Asian females emanating from the alt-rite representing a primary piece of evidence for this conclusion. Underneath the infatuation though is an implied assimilation. With this frame of mind, alt-rite outcucks the cuckservatives who at least privately profrane without public exclaim. “Woke” alt-writers should banish publicly publishing private sexual musings on their miscegenation of choice if for no other reason than cease adding to the sickNarrative.

  18. This talk of upper midwest towns/municipalities always gets me “touring” the streets in Google Streetview. CH posted a 1938 video from Bristol SD today (I had one from Britton, SD from around the same year posted here a few months ago). The two South Dakota towns dont look like they’ve developed into a McSuburb hell, they still look like old towns.

    The Michigan to Idaho stretch is the only part of the continental United States I’ve never been to. Also haven’t been to California south of the SF Bay Area.

    I also checked out Apple Valley, MN. The streetcaptures are from 2017. A very residential municipality. Not large. There is a loose grid of high traffic roads. From my “travel,” I surmise that the northern part is Whiter and wealthier. The UMC street patterns and big houses on appropriately sized lots, impeccably landscaped front yards with expensive high maintenance plants.

    The southern part has apartment developments, new townhouses. I have a local’s acute sense of who-lives-where around here. Also, I developed a solid sense for Boston and its suburbs, but up in Boston that was before you really started seeing the spic/brown influx.

    I’d visit Minnesota with absolutely zero street wisdom or preconception.

  19. You’re not wrong, Thordaddy. Stories like Trav’s crack me up. It’s also an effective intro to a post about what Asian immigrants are trading for that minivan.

  20. The European girl probably thought she was going to see a bunch of people like Brad Pitt and Jessica Chastain’s characters in Tree of Life. Watch some old movies, average Americans used to look good.

  21. I visited southern Florida recently. I liked it. There were a lot of Europeans on vacation. There was a noticeable lack of Asians. There were some African Americans, but less than I see in the mid Atlantic region.

  22. I work with Asians,.The women are sweet and somewhat subservient to white men. It’s far more so than I could ever naturally be. I give white men a little more attitude than they do.
    While I can see why some white women develop an inferiority complex around them, I have managed to avoid it. Some of our best workers are white women.
    East Asians are the sweeter, more subservient ones. Indian women tend to have pretty strong personalities, They are definitely not subservient.

  23. I think in general men who live in the West are softer than men in other parts of the world. Someone on Roosh’s site once wrote Ukrainian men in Ukraine are tough, but the ones living in the US are wimps. I have heard similar sentiments about men of other nationalities.
    A lot of American men aren’t very impressive.

  24. Another example of generational deterioration in the West: mestizos.

    In his column about 20 years ago, Fred Reed described in passing a group of short, squat illegal aliens from perhaps Mexico and wrote, quoting from memory: “Their sons will be 6’2″ and tough.” Even then I had a sense that he’s saying this with a note of glee. But twenty years later, that’s not what I’m seeing. Just about every Mestizo kid I’ve seen is obese.

  25. “…haven’t been to California south of the SF Bay Area.”

    It’s worth your time. A journey on HW 1 from, say, Portland to San Diego offers visions only paralleled, to my knowledge, in certain mountainous parts of Greece. You feel more alive on that trek; the choppy air harbors a sunlight that’s somehow blue in the lungs, cirrus-gold in the blood.

  26. Thanks for the recommendation. I did in fact start that once, a Vancouver to San Diego drive. In the late 90s, three of my friends and I started in Vancouver, then camped on Vancouver Island (LOL, not on “Victoria Island” — hi S.J. Esq.!). Took the ferry, saw Seattle, then a few days later one of the guys and I climbed to the top of Mount St Helen’s.

    Took some lessons from that climb, including what to do when climbing down and my friend gets altitude sickness with heat exhaustion way up on those volcanic rocks and tells me to go and just leave him there (no, I didn’t leave him there. We were both fine the next day if you don’t count the sunburn).

    A few nights later we were in Eureka, CA with plans to explore that area. But another one of the guys got bad news from home that evening, so we drove all night to San Francisco and took our flights home to the MidAtlantic.

  27. PA, regarding the obesity issue: it’s staggering. All I see when I’m out are rollie pollie lil pieces of shit waddling around. And they’ll be like this even as young as five!

    I take some mild schadenfreude in knowing their quality of life will be for shit, until I realize I’ll be footing their healthcare costs (which I’m already doing anyway.)

    Makes me wonder if when the opposition takes over, if they’ll impose a health tax. Too fit? Well, fork over some money for someone who’s not so fit. Gotta even the playing field.

  28. It’s a long standing dream, someday to return. To Canada, “large land of rolling praises fading upward, to many geese and downward to the minerals below”

    Oh Canada! long ago, distant vistas and great lakes
    Oh Canada, prairie dogs find their home in burrows
    Oh Canada, islands unexplored except by birds
    Oh Canada, the blue lands where whales come ashore

    Oh Canada! Oh Canada! Oh Canada!

  29. PA, That Reed’s forecast intimated that only malnutrition accounted for the short stature of Mestizos is but another brick in the wall that his writing was always second-rate. He waxes eloquent about math but apparently the meiosis/mitosis thing is too far removed from 1+1=2.

    Then again, I recently had a retired EE tell me that the reason blacks are poorly represented in engineering is substandard schools. Oh, the power of propaganda, the poz and people’s obvious inability to see what is obvious when it might result in excommunication from the cult.

    As to Asians coming here, there were undoubtedly last minute arrivals to steerage berths on the Titanic, too.

  30. Mendo, you forget a truth that slipped into Zombieland: “The fatties went first.”

    The varieties of application of the old joke, the one about two hikers who notice a nearby bear, where one stops to change to running shoes, are legion in these times. I think we can all safely agree that there’s a lot of unspoken depth to the Biblical dichotomy,”the quick and the dead.”

    PS: I don’t think what’s coming will be a Donner Party redux, except maybe the Long Pig.

  31. Evolution is not something you can control in the aggregate. You can only make your contribution. Silly to plan evolution. Nationalism is not silly, but the genetic process, silly. The pictures of three males are silly. The old man on the left is sticking his chin out. See how his lower lip is forward relative to his upper lip. We don’t know how much of that beard is chin and how much is hair. Back to basics. Nature is a bitch. Individuals have particular interests. People are defined by culture. Ours has been despoiled by the relentless application of Critical Theory. Government is the daddy and the husband. I don’t see a genetic fix that is not organic and unpredictable. There are no more ancient Greeks or Romans, you see. There is a reason. We would be so lucky if our barbarians were German tribes. Muh black pill does not extend into the far future, but it’s curtains for this America. Better to try and fill the power void to come. That period of void replacement will be crucial. There will be evolutionary options in that window. Most will be negated by human competition. Save your powder until then. Work with what canvas you get if you are so lucky. Today will take care of itself, sorta. Work with what is not a romanticized past. Indians on the reservation are bred malcontents.

  32. I think the only difference between the grandfather, his son and his grandson is the grandfather has a lower percentage of body fat. Fat under your chin just means you need to lose weight and get in shape. It’s a good indication of a man’s fitness level.

  33. My take on Aians is that there are +2 billion of them (not even counting Indians) and even a quickly deteriorating America is a big step up, quality of life-wise, for most of them from their shithole countries. Hell, a LOT of countries are way better than their shithole countries, hence the Chinese restaurants in Panama.

    Thanks to chain migration, most of them know this is not the land of “Friends”. They have keen roundeye radar, though, which is why they’ll cram into the tiniest house or apartment in the whitest towns with the best schools, until there are enough of them that my 9 year old daughter can make sweeping generalizations about how stinky Asians breath is.

  34. Ever since HBD popped up on the scene, this unspoken undercurrent of Asian infatuation has stenched the alt-rite with an odor of total Asian assimilation. Not in any of the irrelevant Asian sex talk is there ever a hint of white male imperialism. IRL, all the “white” males I know who have went Asian, went assimilation into things Asian. Ergo, they embraced racial self-annihilation. This whole line of discussion about Asians and Asians’ role in post-America reeks of {{{subversion}}}. Yet, it is from within the alt-rite that this subversion projects forth into something akin to demonic prophecy.

    Who is actually (R)ighting the sickNarrative?

  35. The old man on the left is sticking his chin out. See how his lower lip is forward relative to his upper lip. We don’t know how much of that beard is chin and how much is hair.

    True statement. And also, the kid on the right due to his age is not fully developed yet. So it is a slanted comparison.

    However dentofacial development is a thing that can be quantified, and has oft been noticed and noted, and not just in the red pill zone. It’s sort of a red pill topic but not entirely.

  36. this unspoken undercurrent of Asian infatuation has stenched the alt-rite with an odor of total Asian assimilation

    The Asian infatuation in the Dissident Right may contain elements of subversion, deliberate and otherwise.

    But it’s also used ironically, or whatever: and as a means to an end. It’s meant as a stick with which to beat White girls into shape.

    It’s comparable to supporting Yang and getting ‘the bag’. Another facet of living in a compromised world. Ideally we don’t want to have to settle for Yang bucks, but given that America is going to shit one or the other, who doesn’t want the money.

    Or maybe those two things are not comparable. The fixation on Asian women is more simply that they are not fat, and supposedly have nice pussies that don’t smell as bad.

  37. — They have keen roundeye radar, though, which is why they’ll cram into the tiniest house or apartment in the whitest towns with the best schools

    This nonwhites’ “proboscis” instinct of seeking out Whites to embed themselves among is one of the things I most despise about Diversity. Be it Asians, mudshark moms, talented tenth blacks, and now mestizos. It’s pure parasitism and the right to exclude them will be fundamental once multikult is ended.

  38. In small numbers people who are different are often charming. In large numbers, I can’t stand them.

  39. In small numbers people who are different are often charming.

    doesn’t apply to muslims, latinos, africans or hindus.

  40. Humans are wonderful mimics. This is why Magic Negroes on TV are so believable to most, their verbal shtick punches way above their IQ weight class.

    A few (# or %) of Diversity tends to see them play “When in Rome.” Once any group crosses a threshold, they revert to their in-born, genetically-coded social behaviors. They stop playing parrot.

    Readers of PA’s blog are undoubtedly among THE most aware that the USA is the modern apogee of inviting perhaps a third or more of its residents to play this game. What will follow this long period (at least 50 years and counting) of Utopian Social Delusion (pathological altruism combined with actions consistent with a belief in unlimited wealth) is anyone’s guess, but I cannot envision anything that doesn’t involve pockets of extraordinary violence and what amounts to regionalization of these genetically-immiscible subgroups via flight from that violence. Our Empire of Poz was born, lived, and is dying at multiple times the speed of the Roman Empire’s life cycle. What took them centuries now occurs in decades.

    People will have no choice but to flee to regions of like-minded persons, and we’ll see the USA break up into at least six or eight geographical entities defined by genetic relatedness (and I assume the most pozzed whites will be systematically exterminated along the way, because I don’t think they’re actually capable of surviving their belief structure.)

    One question is whether the NW corner of the US joins up with Vancouver and becomes China’s colony in North America. I absolutely could see that happening. Hawaii seems certain to end up in Japan’s hands.

  41. — doesn’t apply to muslims, latinos, africans or hindus.

    You know that the bow is pulled tight when that’s literally true insofar as how you feel about any single one of those people. Wartime conditions, some would say.

    Just as a mental experiment, I thought back to my attitudes, say, not-quite 25 years ago when I had the normal and healthy baseline “racism” but there was no Population Replacement feeling in the air. So 20+ years ago, my then-girlfriend’s social circle, which therefore was also part of my social circle, included a group of European grad students from her program. Mostly Western Europeans. And there was one African student who always tagged along to their parties. “Tagged along” might be a bit unfair a phrase, as he was part of the clique, but he was an odd duck, and not just ’cause black. He was a francophone African, tall and lanky, and he looked substantially older than the twenty-somethings of that group. He chain smoked and commented cynically about everything in his heavy Afro-French accent.

    He was a mascot of the group, you could say. Due to age and cultural differences, he was like that “older pot smoker” type of dude that’s also an archetype-character of college social life. A funny guy to have around, inoffensive, and it was certainly off-bounds for him to mess around with any of the girls.

    Anyway, I had no feeling of animosity toward the African guy. It never crossed my mind to feel anything other than indifference and maybe a bit of amusement toward that one individual. I certainly didn’t feel that he’s poaching on, or polluting a White environment just by being there, and I never would have accused him of any sort of mercenary intentions. He was a mascot, no more and no less.

    Twenty-some years later… I won’t get too descriptive as I’ve already covered this here in past comments and posts, but I have no psychological tolerance for any nonwhite in White space. It’s parasitism on their part. They know it and I know it.

  42. PA, are you really certain their mascot wasn’t diddling one or more of the girls on the sly? Whites keep mascots around for more than just above-the-line entertainment, in my experience. (Possibly the girls just fantasized about a safari, that might have been enough 20 years ago. No longer, I’d bet.)

    I was at Mexico Central yesterday (also known as Sam’s Wholesale Club) and find that reading blogs like this combined with listening to short brown people jabber (probably in Spanish, although my lack of finding any familiar sounds suggests it could be one of the Mayan hold-over dialects of the actual Indians of Chiapas State) is a proximate cause of hypertension.

    They come, they fill the schools with their kids, they asset strip both the FedGov (filing “Earned Income Tax Credit” claims to the IRS, among other ways) and local communities and then send the capital out of the country via Western Union. As I’ve said, what a perfect inversion of past empires. Our empire redefines the concept of “concentrated benefit, diffuse costs.” We’re going to reap a whirlwind because a tiny few of us wanted to be richer than Croesus and fly private.

    Where I live in the Midwest sure looks like at least every third person is non-white, with most of them being 1st or 2nd gen Mestizo, Asian (east or south) or MENA…with blacks segregated to the ghetto in old-town. If there are any white roofers or landscapers left, I haven’t seen one.

    Every non-white I see now is just another future existential adversary for me or for my kids or for my grandkids, depending on when the cataclysm arrives. Sadly, I also see most of the whites as Fifth Columnists, too, and I figure it will take a whole lot of extreme hazard and hardship to separate the irredeemably pozzed and sock-puppety from actual value-added neighbors. I can only imagine how often value-added people will be back-stabbed by a white they trusted who subsequently betrays them. This fear will help keep whites atomized and easy targets, too. It’s lose-lose, just like now, only when there are no second place winners.

    I like most of the trappings of modern life and do not relish a return to the historically normal conditions of humanity (hardship, deprivation, death a constant companion, not to mention being cold, hungry, dirty, smelly and exhausted all the time) so I never say, “Bring it on!” but each non-white I see reminds me how much these times are temporary.

    I’ve read that Latin America’s murder rate is akin to Sub-Saharan Africa’s rape/robbery rate, decimal places higher than the rest of the world. 50,000,000 Mestizos in the USA? Their clannishness and ability to organize while “heritage” Americans remain atomized and unwilling to face that this will eventually turn into “kill ’em all, down to the goldfish in the bowl?”

    This isn’t going to go well.

  43. “are you really certain their mascot wasn’t diddling one or more of the girls on the sly”

    I’m certain, going by my casual acquaintance with that crowd. Social dynamics tell-all and there was absolutely no such social chemistry.

  44. “This isn’t going to go well.”

    As someone said, the next decade is going to be chaotic. The one after that will be civilized.

    The underlying anxiety is the future in which our next generation will live as adults. Something to keep in mind, is that you and I are adapted to the challenges of the recent decades. The White kids today will be psychologically adapted to deal with the aftermath of the current clown world. It wont be anxiety-inducing for them like it is for us. They’ll deal with it better than you or I could. Our role is no different than that of fathers and grandfathers in every past era.

    The second thing is, that there are constants. Constants of human nature, constants of White instinct, character, aesthetic, intelligence, cooperation, adaptability, effectiveness under all circumstances.

  45. “ I have no psychological tolerance for any nonwhite in White space. It’s parasitism on their part. They know it and I know it.”

    Exactly how I feel when I go skiing. Only whites belong there, but white-impersonating Asians are starting to sprinkle in. Leave us the F alone.

  46. “The second thing is, that there are constants. Constants of human nature, constants of White instinct, character, aesthetic, intelligence, cooperation, adaptability, effectiveness under all circumstances.”

    I’ll concur on human nature. No so sure about the downwardly mobile “newish” neighbors, where what passes for a patriarch is white but the mystery source of the mulatto teens who used to live with him and his white wife has moved on to the mystery of where his wife and mulatto teens went these last months, and how today’s new wrinkle is his ~70 year old mother doing said neighbor’s yardwork, “helped” by a small mulatto child who called her grammy. Maybe it’s all a Foster Parent scam, combined with Social Security Disability.

    If my neighbor has one iota of character, aesthetic, intelligence, cooperation, adaptablity or effectiveness under ANY circumstance he hides it amazingly well. And he is far, far, far from alone.

    I think my kids are already too busy living the most hectic part of life (married, with small kids, a house, a job, etc.) to still listen to their father run around doing his impression of Chicken Little. What will be, will be though. I get it, I think.

  47. But [Asain female is] also used ironically, or whatever: and as a means to an end. It’s meant as a stick with which to beat White girls into shape. — Elk

    And I’d say this is a figment of the dejected alt-rite imagination. The bulk of white females are thoroughly anti-racist and don’t even bat an eyelash at such WM/AF pairings. And said white females certainly are not making any sort of public stink about such alt-rite “stick.” In fact, this seems to be a case of alt-writers projecting onto white females a “racism” that just doesn’t exist at this point. And besides, can anyone say that the “stick” of Asian female falling into white men’s hands has altered the general ethos of white female one iota?

  48. — can anyone say that the “stick” of Asian female falling into white men’s hands has altered the general ethos of white female one iota?

    Up to about 10 years ago, White girls who were still at a point where they putting off settling-down panicked about East Asian girls poaching their “insurance” — the slender, ladylike Asianettes were marrying the less-than-exciting White men with solid career prospects. As I’ve seen it develop though, the most attractive of the US-born Asian females now deem themselves in the same class as attractive White women. They are no longer settling for the “nerdy engineers”. They swing for the White Alphas too, or for successful Asian guys if they happen to be traditional.

    Most of the young Asian females, though, no longer bring much to the table in the way of looks and charm as they succumb to modern Western nonchalance about femininity. They also tend to be fat, which pound-for-pound they carry worse than chubby White girls, having shorter legs. So I’d say, based on my above observations, that Asian girls no longer motivate the single, carousel-riding White females as competition.

  49. There really is not a question here when it comes to Asians and the “West”—they are no different than any other European group who set forth to forge a path to self-sufficiency. This journey is indubitably the mark of human civilization—character, aesthetic, intelligence, cooperation, adaptability, effectiveness under all circumstances.

    They are drawn by economic and familial prospects, with their genetic destiny consisting of creating a family here in America that may or not not reflect their “pure” racial or ethnic identity in the future. It is no different than the second generation Pole or Italian who married a non-Pole or non-Italian—their parents generally expected that event to unfold in that manner in the States. But back in the mother land, such miscegenation of choice would be considered outside the bounds of social norms. That sentiment in today’s America, however, is largely confined to frustrated Alt Right virtue signalers who humorously call for the prohibition of alphas to publish their sexual conquests of “mystery meat”.

    As far as chasing mammon by way of commercial enterprises, that is feature, not a bug, of our society. Americans of all stripes are attracted to nice things regardless if those goods and services are provided by their fellow citizens who look “different” than them. Asians are no different in their consumption of technology and culture than heritage Americans. Besides, resurgent white nationalism and the desire for an ultimate showdown, or “reckoning”, only gets in the way of individual profits and group success; it is mere conjecture than reality that an “angry Saxon” will eventually emerge to single handedly carve out several white ethnno-regions. I suppose I should let people dream, however foolish is that vision.

    There was also a comment made about how America is the “world’s dumpster”. I suppose that WASPs held that distinct attitude when there own redoubts being overrun by foul-mouthed, parasitic louts from Eastern and Southern Europe. The Poles were especially notorious for being dirty, disease-ridden papists. The Italians bred like rabbits, lived in cramped quarters, and would not even bat an eyelash to bash in someone’s skull for a plug nickel. Yet, here we are with millions of them claiming they were historically embraced by their WASP counterparts because they were “white” and “European”. Nostalgia has a funny way of distorting what truly went on in the past. WASPs were absolutely correct in connecting these particular groups with their own unique “proboscis” instinct. It is an absolute shame that the 1924 Quota Acts overall failed in their purpose and intention.

  50. ‘That sentiment in today’s America, however, is largely confined to frustrated Alt Right virtue signalers who humorously call for the prohibition of alphas to publish their sexual conquests of “mystery meat”.’

    mystery meats aren’t a object of conquest. at best, they are consolation prizes. more likely, they are the product of dumpster diving

  51. Besides, resurgent white nationalism and the desire for an ultimate showdown, or “reckoning”, only gets in the way of individual profits and group success; it is mere conjecture than reality that an “angry Saxon” will eventually emerge to single handedly carve out several white ethnno-regions. I suppose I should let people dream, however foolish is that vision.

    Profits for whom? Group success to which group?

    And the last sentence quoted above is presumptuous in the extreme. You will “let” other people have their own dreams. That’s nice.

    Is this comment of parody of hapa grandiosity; or is it the real thing? Almost certainly the latter.

    There really is not a question here when it comes to Asians and the “West”—they are no different than any other European group who set forth to forge a path to self-sufficiency.

    This statement is the opening statement of the entire comment, and is categorically, not to mention obviously, untrue. The difference between Asians and other Euro groups, is that Asians are of another Race.

    Please try harder.

  52. Edit:

    What I wrote:

    “Woke” alt-writers should banish publicly publishing private sexual musings on their miscegenation of choice if for no other reason than cease adding to the sickNarrative.

    Allyn71’s interpretation:

    That sentiment (read: the wrongness of miscegenation) in today’s America, however, is largely confined to frustrated Alt Right virtue signalers who humorously call for the prohibition of alphas to publish their sexual conquests of “mystery meat”.

    The distortion of actual reality could hardly be more subversive because no amount of “white” Alphas sexually triumphing over individual Asian females will ever transform the UGLY reality of based miscegenation into something reverent and enchanting.

    Who will actually proclaim that a collective white male infatuation with Asian females signals health, vigor and a desire for ascension in said white males?

  53. At some point in the near future, the “controlled opposition” that is the alt-rite will be known by its convergence with all things Asian and its based miscegenation mirroring the illusionary essence of anti-racist “feminism.”

  54. Geographic Mobility is almost as enervating to the soul as riding the carousel is to a woman’s heart. It has cost me much.

    I’ve done cool sh!t, lived in various “paradises” and tourist traps, seen a fair bit of the world. People rave about how great it must be to have been able to do this.

    Then I talk on FB to my old high school acquaintance who never left our 98.1% White town (that was the percentage back in the day–today east and south Asians are starting to take over). He was a smarmy prick who hung out with the arrogant jocks and rich kids.

    Since, he has become a more modest man. He opened a small business. He has a summer cabin on the lake. He knows people in town going back decades.

    I’ve led the more interesting and glamorous life, yet I wish in many ways I had his. He seems content; I hate where I live (stuck by career in diversityville and caged by the non-portability of my law license) and feel like I have nowhere to go.

    I’ve become something of a rootless cosmopolitan, if I’m honest.

  55. “Geographic mobility” = radical autonomy = desire to “fly” = white man’s preferred superpower (versus the Semitic desire for the superpower of “invisibility,” ie., cloaking. A rival expression of “radical autonomy”).

  56. Thordaddy, that’s insightful. If you saw Cobra Kai, you’ll remember the jewish gamma Dimitri saying that he’d pick an invisibility superpower.

    Jaded Jurist, I can relate to your story from a different angle, in that my big geographic uprooting was not of my choice. But even that aside, I recently reconnected with an old friend, except he then got a work contract on the opposite end of the country.

  57. PA, “uprooting” is the word. Roots are worth much more than they get credit for. :thumbsup:

  58. When someone writes “pure” with regards to any sort White identity in those disqualifying quote marks, as Allyn did, it’s a good bet that he’s an anti-White.

  59. Yeah, like in the movie Black Klansman, Topher Grace, playing David Duke, talks about “Pure White Aryan Blood”. No one talks like that. If Spike Lee was smarter and harder working he could maybe make a movie that accurately reflects pro white people, but he’s lazy and dumb, so we got a dud.

  60. Many other groups have made alliances in opposition to white American for personal gain. If continental European Americans and Anglo Americans choose to set aside their differences to work for a common goal I say more power to them. A lot of these differences have been mostly smoothed over already.
    Anti whites never seemed concerned with fairness, consistency or historical accuracy. I’m not sure why we need to be.

  61. Lara: “Anti whites never seemed concerned with fairness, consistency or historical accuracy. I’m not sure why we need to be.”

    It’s the difference between proactive and reactive. Distilled, it’s the difference between justice and revenge.

  62. For most so-called “alphas”, “mystery meats” are first place in the battle for high grade poon. Don’t be a fool, damnd. Even your boy Strom Thurmond got on board with some darkie twat.

    Profits for individuals and companies, Suburban_Elk. Group success to company owners, big or small, as well as customers. It’s not rocket science. Regardless is Asians and Europeans are of a different race, they shared the same motivations to carve out a niche in the States. That is patently obvious.

    Now, Thordaddy, it is YOUR reality that miscegenation is something other than “reverant and enchanting”. For the chads out there, it’s all in a day’s work to overload a bi-racial lass’s amygdala and close the deal at her apartment on her dime. The “infactuation” is to notch as many p-pelts on the wall. You ought to know better–it’s the escalator to success in the manosphere. Read Dalrock about the “health and vigor” of scoring with women regardless of race or ethnicity, and get back to us sometime when you are truly serious.

    Lara, shouldn’t you be baking cookies rather than be making unfounded accusations about
    anti-whiteness? I thought that was the host’s responsibility to engage in such buffoonery.

  63. Allyn71…

    Your take is ten-fifteen years old and the results are in.

    More mudducking…
    More thirsty beta orbiters…
    More “hypergamy…”
    Less bunz in the ovenz…

    And gleefully passive assimilation into too many “things” Asian.

    Anti-racist “manospherian” is a self-annihilator.

    The empirical evidence is overwhelming.

    The “manosphere” is a truly deceptive misnomer used by high IQ subversives to dumb-down their lesser racial kin.

  64. Eastern/Southern Europeans like yourself, PA, are infected with the “chosenite” virus. They are stellar at patronizing. Not so much at moral consistency and applying to themselves the standards they demand of others.

    “Your take is ten-fifteen years old and the results are in.”

    Thordaddy, my take is based on reality, not a reality show.

    “More mudducking…More thirsty beta orbiters…More “hypergamy”…Less bunz in the ovenz…”

    Men seek to avoid being virtue signaled to death by someone like yourself who shills for the Bumper Sticker industry.

    “And gleefully passive assimilation into too many “things” Asian.”



    Tell that to John Derbyshire and Jack Donovan. You’re huffing and puffing like an Alpha, but it’s that damn gamma streak that betrays you in the end.

  65. — Eastern/Southern Europeans like yourself, PA, are infected with the “chosenite” virus. They are stellar at patronizing. Not so much at moral consistency and applying to themselves the standards they demand of others.

    Maybe. Whatever that means. Somehow it doesn’t feel like your resentment toward me comes from a Sons of the American Revolution point of view.

  66. Profits for individuals and companies, Suburban_Elk. Group success to company owners, big or small, as well as customers.

    The health of people isn’t necessarily correlated with “the Economy”.

    The economy as a nebulous justification for globalization, lost its charm and validity some time ago. tldr: fuck the economy

    For most so-called “alphas”, “mystery meats” are first place in the battle for high grade poon. Don’t be a fool, damnd. Even your boy Strom Thurmond got on board with some darkie twat.

    That’s actually kind of funny. As for arguing its merits as a statement, it’s rather a tautology though, what with the quotation marks.

  67. Allyn71…

    You’re reading from a script that is dusty and crusty, but still able to be sold to a large swath of demoralized white boys, no doubt.

    So there is a fine line between “reality” and self-fulfilling prophecy and you are certainly walking it.

    Me… I am literally at ground zero where the phenomena in question are concerned.

    I am also very intimate with the redounding consequences of miscegenation.

    You are not writing from experience.

    Real men are racist and cannot truthfully speak of a “men’s movement” that doesn’t ultimately revolve around their collective ding-a-ling. In other words, to write of “men” as a collective somesuch equal to “woman,” or niggers or jews is the pathology of anti-racism and “gay.”

    Your distortion of reality is in the belief that white man really is an anti-racist especially in his sexual selection. This is what you are trying to cell. This is the “how to” jew-nigger whites into extinction.

  68. “The health of people isn’t necessarily correlated with “the Economy”.

    

Weasel statement, Suburban_Elk. The fact is that, to most Americans, their health in terms of living what they personally view as a comfortable lifestyle (e.g. material, spiritual, medical) is related to the robustness of the economy. We have a long-standing history in our nation with materialism, consumerism, and consumption. Remember, we built it.

    “The economy as a nebulous justification for globalization, lost its charm and validity some time ago.”

    As Steve Sailer opines, according to Who/Whom? Perhaps you hold that mentality, which is really your cross own to bear. White people comprehend the haziness of our capitalist system, given how the Alt Right and the SJW’s are notorious for their agenda driven narrative.

    “tldr: fuck the economy”

    

That would be a decidedly losing strategy when targeted to white people, specifically to the working classes. Trump made his money on the principles and foundations of our capitalist system, why in the hell would he market that phrase during his re-election campaign? You can do markedly better, Suburban_Elk and PA.

    “That’s actually kind of funny. As for arguing its merits as a statement, it’s rather a tautology though, what with the quotation marks.”



    Disqualify, disqualify, disqualify, as the saying goes by Vox Day, self-proclaimed sigma. While there is certainly legitimacy in referring to men as alpha males who meet that criteria, the manosphere has made it a cottage industry like SJW’s to label people as how THEY view it. In other words, it is single-handedly subjective in nature. One man’s alpha is another man’s gamma. Why would proles event want to face the indignation of their alleged superiors pigeon-holing them as “soy boys”? 

Are you a secret king?

    Thordaddy, you are so far gone from reality I do not even know where to begin.

    “You are not writing from experience.”



    That is a neat trick for you being able to inform me about my own dalliances with the various cuts of “mystery meats”. What else do you have up your sleeve?

    “You’re reading from a script that is dusty and crusty, but still able to be sold to a large swath of demoralized white boys”.

    I thought white boys have three digit intelligence quotients and have cat-like reflexes to properly sniff out, and promptly snuff out, Cultural Marxist elites and their feminist battle cunts. Unless you are with your soapbox in tow on a hamlet to hamlet tour, you are impotent in your effort to save the teenage white boys from racial and cultural extinction. It is noble to cut your teeth by littering blog after blog with your pithy commentary, but after a while, you need to take your show on the road to make a real difference.

    “Real men are racist and cannot truthfully speak of a “men’s movement” that doesn’t ultimately revolve around their collective ding-a-ling.”

    
You are arguing from a false premise, Thordaddy. Real men may be racist and may lack the knowledge to speak truthfully about a “men’s movement”, but you do not hold exclusive rights as to what exactly constitutes masculinity or what are the required criteria for this cause, lest those who question you draw your ire for not being in lock-step with your vision. Although, why do you not prove your “real men are racist” theory? PA is a Polllack. His kind is an invader. His stock is inferior, as evident by the characterizations by the true heritage Americans—WASPs. The 1924 Quota Act was a long-waited panacea to reign in such an odious creature. Make Hans F.K. Gunther, who I assume would be your hero, proud. Yet, you seemingly have little scathing to say about the “racial soul” of PA’s brethren. White knighting or poser?

    “In other words, to write of “men” as a collective somesuch equal to “woman,” or niggers or jews is the pathology of anti-racism and “gay.”

    I will also say to you, are you a secret king?

    “Your distortion of reality is in the belief that white man really is an anti-racist especially in his sexual selection.”

    Thordaddy, mankind has historically procreated to push forward the species as a whole. It was only when certain began to think about such matters as “racial superiority” and “racial purity” and the like that race mixing became a “biological problem” for whites. Note that even southern slave masters sired pickannies with their wenches for future porch monkey status. The promotion of the reinstitution of miscegenation to our great land is akin to the Washington Generals believing they will emerge victorious not once, but thrice in a row, against their nemesis, the Harlem Globetrotters. Again, if you want to dream, feel free to find a quiet room and ponder that glorious day.

    But no amount of agitprop or virtue signaling on your part will dramatically move the needle in this area, especially when prominent Alt-Right leaders like John Derbyshire are revered by the foot soldiers in the trenches. The best you can do in our shit-stained world is to have a litter of white babies, preferably based boys, to serve as your personal army of shitlords. Hopefully you and your lil’ misses have picked up the demographic slack. I imagine you have no less than six children in your brood? If not, hoss, you are a hypocrite and traitor to the cause.

  69. An obligation exists to defend your bloodlines and your people. Everyone’s argument of attack is predicated on what people they are. If you are not one of us, that’s what it is. If you are genetically one of us, in this case White American, and yet you don’t care to be defend this group and its future and its interests, then join some other group, or sacrifice your interests in the name of One World or whatever it’s to be called.

    In any case groups and their interests, exist and will continue to do so. White Americans are their own group by now, and they include all sorts of White subgroups and a little bit of this and that too. In my opinion, if things could be resolved peacefully and rationally, the ethnostate of White America will include a good bit of flexibility. The ethnostates of Europe absolutely would not; but that is for them to decide.

    I agree with the position that PA is credited with, at least here on his blog, that a total moratorium on all immigration, with only the most minuscule of exceptions, is a great platform, for a solution to how to live on this planet. As for all the people who are recently relocated to America? Their position is tenuous. They need to be encouraged to go back. As for the mixed race individuals.

    Ideally, there would be a worldwide eugenics program, in which pretty everyone is a voluntary participant, and the goals of which include the preservation of all legitimate population groups; but would also allow for everyone not blatantly defective, to reproduce. These two propositions are in no way incompatible, as anyone with junior level math skills can see.

    Human nature being what it is, it seems unlikely that there’ll be a reasonable outcome to our mixed up nation states. But I believe that it’s not impossible, that the better people will win this struggle, and then can effect long term plan that includes such reasonable considerations.

  70. I read a lot of the above at “blah, blah, blah” and while not particularly enamored of the whole psycho-sexual Greek alphabet soup, the extreme length of a comment inserted as argumentation (rather than exposition…self-serving exception noted) is imo a classic gamma-tell.

    I don’t care who you are, that there is funny. (h/t to Larry the Cable Guy.)

    PS: A man with choices who instead just bangs the phonebook without regard to specifics (like race) is something, but he sure isn’t alpha in the way I understand it. To me, this is channeling the chimps, a species where as each girl comes into heat, every guy takes a crack at her.

    Idiocracy: a place where the betters ape the apes.

  71. Elk, during the greatest mania in social mood ever recorded people came to believe their Utopian delusions so much that they surrounded themselves with aliens. If this seems implausible, so do the historical examples of the Heavens Gate cult and Jim Jones People’s Temple. Collective insanity IS a selection on the human behavior menu.

    When the mania ends (and we’ll know it by the collapse in the debt-wealth house of cards) people will rediscover just how little they like living, working and mixing with people Not Like Themselves. Just as our great-grandparents would never have imagined today’s beliefs, neither are we in a position to imagine what beliefs will be popular and fashionable in a decade or three.

    What once they worked to mix, they (we) will then work just as hard to separate. My suspicion is that at least in parts of the USA that separation process will not be peaceful. I hope that where me and mine live it will be relatively so, but maintain a decent level of flexibility should being “elsewhere” seem prudent.

    Everything else about these debates is pure conjecture. Entertaining, but not illuminating.

  72. — Collective insanity IS a selection on the human behavior menu.

    Certainly. And there is another, more common and less pathological collective phenomenon: when swamped with alien invaders, a lot of people react with the cuck-reflex, which you see everywhere. Its psychological impetus: placate the beast, “maybe my betters on telewitz are right and I should be nicer to Diversity,” and so on. Not pathology at its root, just more of a collective deer-in-headlights.

    That does pass and those same people flip to nationalism. Most people want to be nationalist, but they need “permission” to think and leadership to act in accordance with that wish.

  73. I am a nationalist at heart, but I do find it hard to hold those views at times. It is isolating. In a diverse environment, it takes it toll. I would like to meet more like minded people in real life, but it isn’t easy.

  74. The more I’m around non whites, the more white nationalist I become. It doesn’t have to even be that I don’t like them, just being around them makes me identify stronger as white. When I’m around mostly white people I tend to not feel so strongly about it.

  75. That is a neat trick for you being able to inform me about my own dalliances with the various cuts of “mystery meats”. What else do you have up your sleeve? — Allyn71

    I wasn’t at all referring to any supposed “experience” in your sexual “dalliances” with nonwhites, but rather questioning how proximate you are to the actual fallout of the ten to fifteen year old “male sexual liberationist” movement that you erroneously proclaim a “men’s movement?”

    Again, I say not very close. Myself, on the other hand, literally right at ground zero.

    Anti-racism, embraced by any particular white boy, is self-annihilating. And the evidence is practically everywhere one looks IF he cares to look (hint: Allyn71 doesn’t care to look).

    The issue then is no core, no cause.

    There is no cause in the “men’s movement” because there is no core. There is a simple collective desire for “radical sexual autonomy.”

    And so, “progressing,” a male sexual autonomist such as yourself, attempts to appropriate the “man” label for the anti-racist cause eventually leaving the fanatic completely hollowed out.

    “Species” do not “procreate.” And neither do anti-racists. Both either “reproduce” or terminate. “Procreation” is the language of a metaphysical reality that a radical sexual autonomist cleverly manipulates, as the late Mr. Auster informed us, but does not actually believe in. In other words, you aren’t a genuine procreator, but “speak the language” in order to manipulate those that aren’t clear on your first principle which is “radical sexual autonomy.”

    And so charges of “traitor” and “hypocrisy” coming from a hollowed out individual simply reveal a very recognizable multi-faced creature of “radical autonomy.”

  76. Sure, Suburban_Elk, we have a duty to defend our relatives and friends. But you are unilaterally declaring how and why this “we” ought to pursue that duty, based on your conjured concept as a “genetically white American”. There is the race and ethnic group that white people SEPARATELY belong to. American of and by itself is not “genetic”.

    Besides, Owen Benjamin clears up this matter by noting that in the 1828 Websters Dictionary that on what is an American—A native of America; originally applied to the aboriginals, or copper-colored races, found here by the Europeans; but now applied to the descendants of Europeans born in America. “Now applied” is the operative phrase here. Your gal pal PA observably does NOT fit into this definition. Notice the absence of propositions, ideas, citizenship, biology, or “Judeo-Christian” values.

    PA has to go back.

    Furthermore, the uniform of whites historically have been religion and ethnicity, not race. The white Christian is obligated in their congregation to love thy neighbor—it does demand in the Bible that it must be exclusively of a person from a racial designation. The heads of households for Poles and Italians in the States had been notorious for arranging marriages within their in-group first and foremost. 

As far as White Americans being their “own group”, assuredly some citizens feel that way, which is their liberty. But expecting them as a whole to choose race over their other numerous identities will be a great source of consternation for you and the Alt Right. It may be surprising to you, but we ultimately have the liberty to make our own determination as far as what group to honor and defend, and if we “care” to incorporate other groups of like-minded people, then so be it, similar to if you choose to distance yourself from peoples deemed “not your kind”. Encourage you all want for recent Americans and mixed race individuals to leave our shores, but that is a losing proposition. For that goal to be achieved, it will take a hot Civil War. Are you prepared to die for that cause?

    When it came to your last two paragraphs, I chuckled. I will pass regarding your proposed eugenics program—it is not even remotely on the global radar screen and has virtually no chance of gaining substantial headway. And I most enjoyed your continued use of weasel phrases—legitimate population groups, not blatantly defective, better people. What are the metrics involved here? Who makes these important decisions?

    Deter, your fatalist nature gets the best of you. You state “neither are we in a position to imagine what beliefs will be popular and fashionable in a decade or three”. Ironically, you are espousing a certainty that people will wake up from their slumber, realize all along they were flimflammed, and will undoubtedly seek to ensure they will no longer be misled.

    PA, I thought Freud was not in your wheelhouse.

    And now, for thordaddy, who is acting exactly like an SJW. Note that you substitute “men’s movement” with “male sexual liberationist” and “radical sexual autonomy”. Did you bone up on your NOW feminist playbook?

    It is not about anti-racism, but anti-humanity. Embraced by any particular white boy, teenager, or man, it is self-defeating. And the proof is literally all around us except to men like yourself with blinders on. The issue is that the core and cause of the men’s movement is to pigeon-hole masculinity through straw men and false premises. You are appropriate the “man” label for the anti-humanity cause, eventually rendering this concept soulless.

    Of course species procreate—they produce young; reproduce. A species that procreate by copulation. Again, SJW-inspired theater on your part.

    Men have the freedom to assume the position of “alpha bux, gamma sux” or carve out their own niche that turns the social-sexual hierarchy upside down. If that conduct entails, as evident by the Roissy’s and Roosh’s of the world, to have coitus with every stripe, then we as men have that liberty. 

I suspect that in your secret king world, you are so desperate to charge anyone but yourself as being a “hollowed out individual” that you have assumed a persona that, contrary to your intentions, completely debases and defiles you.

  77. “PA has to go back”

    Too funny.

    The above long comment is a demonstration of a nonwhite’s resentment of being among Whites and knowing that he can’t be one of us. It takes a leap of imagination for us to relate to that mentality.

  78. Allyn71…

    You aren’t being honest and upfront about your desires.

    Therefore, “we” cannot have any discussion as to whether to embrace or impede those desires?

    But I’ll say it again…

    There is no “men’s movement.” There is only white man’s movement. And then there is a male sexual liberationist movement that attempts to mirror “feminism” in a fit of egalitarianism.

    What do you actually desire, Allyn71?

  79. PA, you are a hypocrite. You tout the proposition nation as being utter nonsense, yet you enjoy its fruits. You are not one of U.S., so you churlishly resort to calling me, a Heritage American, a non-white. That is all you have left in the tank. It takes little effort to draw that conclusion.

    Vox Day made it abundantly clear–Europeans, most notably the Germans, the Irish, the Italians, and the Polish, lack the ability to comprehend and put into practice Anglo-Saxon ideals. Yet, those same people whose ancestors had been deemed “unfit” for American inclusion by nativists in the 1850’s and 1890’s claim to possess the inherent qualities required to perpetuate Western Civilization. Because white. Nativists held those groups in contempt for “alien ways of life”, yet by the power of magic dirt, those groups have transformed themselves into one of the natives. Your stench is indeed unbearable.

    You have to go back.

    Thordaddy, your reverence for SJW induced theatre is mind numbing. Of course I am being honest, it is absolutely sawing you to the bone. There is a men’s movement, one that focuses on pumping and dumping at the expense of family creation. You, of all people, ought to know as its water carrier.

  80. Allyn71…

    So you’re a “Heritage American” who can “put into practice Anglo-Saxon ideals,” but chose to join a “men’s movement” whose “core essence” is “pumping and dumping at the expense of family formation.”

    That’s called a dead-end movement.

    Does any aspect of being a man include getting one’s mind (R)ight?

  81. — You have to go back.

    And I banned you 32 months ago, yet here you are. (but as long as you don’t exceed one comment per day, I don’t mind it for now.)

    — me, a Heritage American

    Signs point to you being of full or partial South Asian ancestry.

  82. Allyn71 claims to be White American? Doubtful. Or is he claiming to be Heritage American, and implying there is a difference in those two categories? His commenting is tedious and middling.

    Allyn, go back to India. Your people are the worst athletes in the history of the world. Granted there are castes from there w/ high iq’s; but they are swamped by mediocrity.

    Please be brief in any replies, as you seem to lack wit.

  83. PA said :

    Signs point to you being of full or partial South Asian ancestry.

    I don’t know about that. How do you figure?

    [It’s an impression I formed when reading his past comments here and elsewhere. — PA]

    SJ Esquire said :

    Indian babes are the hawtest, though.

    I don’t agree with that either. Certain individuals, yes, but the average isn’t very high.

    Are you sure you have seen a sufficient sample size?

  84. The “Indian babes are the hawtest” comment only arises because so many white girls’ parents used too many fast food drive-through’s during their adolescence.

    The most naturally beautify women in the world are of European ancestry. Take the make-up off the girls in the Miss Universe pageant and this would be irrefutable.

  85. “And I banned you 32 months ago, yet here you are. (but as long as you don’t exceed one comment per day, I don’t mind it for now.)”

    
Sure you did (sarcastic smirk), PA. Regardless, if you are going to go all SJW and prohibit fine white citizens from speaking their minds, then put up or shut up. It must be that Tzarist blood in you. Are you easily this triggered?


    It needs to be directed here that Eastern and Southern Europeans do not think like WASPs. It is mind numbingly simplistic in brain structure. They lack the distinct ability to understand individual justice, or even have a conscience for that matter. Poles especially are notorious for having a completely different neurological reality, different even in matters of soul.


    And you lost the argument when you meekly attempt to equate me as a vibrant. South Asian, LOL. The bitter pill for you to swallow is that you are not an American. and you assuredly are not even “White”. You are an invader. I am able to directly trace my ancestors on both sides to the English. The Constitution was meant secure the rights of Englishmen and only applies to this particular group of people, since the non-English–meaning white Europeans–lack the intellectual capacity to properly comprehend its ideals. So those American citizens born in Portugal or in Poland or in Serbia or in Bulgaria are other than American. You push out all others while eagerly putting your out snout in the trough that you simply did not built.

    Suburban_Elk, there is a difference. Read and learn, friend. Vox Day eloquently states, “As you probably know, my argument is that the Posterity for whom the Constitution is intended to defend the Blessings of Liberty consists solely of the genetic descendants of the People of the several and United States. Posterity does not include immigrants, descendants of immigrants, invaders, conquerers, tourists, students, Americans born in Portugal, or anyone else who happens to subsequently reside in the same geographic location, or share the same civic ideals, as the original We the People…Many, if not most, descendants of immigrants are not the Posterity of the then-People of the United States. Neither are people living in Mexico, Germany, Israel, or even Great Britain. The U.S. Constitution was not written for them, nor was it ever intended to secure the Blessings of Liberty for them. The idea that the Constitution was intended to do anything at all for immigrants, resident aliens, or foreigners is as absurd as the idea that its emanations and penumbras provide them with an unalienable right to an abortion.”

    Looks like you and your Polish sausage buddy have to go back.

    Thordaddy, I am a Heritage American who can put into practice Anglo-Saxon ideals who opposes the artificially created social-sexual hierarchy you embrace and whose acolytes subsequently championed a man’s movement with the purpose to convince men to play women like a fiddle without the commitment of marriage and children.

    You really have an annoying knack for misrepresenting someone’s ideas. Talk about dead-end.

    It is clear to see that you sublimate your personal aesthetic distaste into a into false theoretical doctrine that discusses “self-annihilation” and “racial necessity”. Ultimately, your mentality is that one loves their Self because they hate the world and if they were to love the world then they must certainly hate themselves, so it is a degenerate mindset through and through culminating in its own inevitable self-destruction.

    And, Deter, the most naturally beautiful women in the world are what men individually believe to be as as the most naturally beautiful women in the world. It is merely a personal opinion.

    To be honest, I am getting intellectually bored here on this thread. Your commentary has denigrated into low brow entertainment. Have the last comment, gents. Because secret king.

  86. Ha! Sure, thanks man. I’ll have the last word unless someone else wants to. I’m literally still laughing. I burst out loud with a laugh when reading that. Thanks for the comic relief, buddy. Sometimes we get so serious here!

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