For the sake of clarity let’s make it an either-or.

The migrant caravan has grown exponentially. It stretches as far as the eye can see. Perhaps 20 thousand or more. What is our military for if not to defend our country and its sovereign borders. This is a critical moment for President Trump and our country… Do not fail us, Mr. President. – from Gab

Check out the invaders wearing new shirts with feminist propaganda on them. It’s almost as if this is a carefully choreographed push to get women to side with third-world invaders, and to create more controversy when they have to be stopped by force. Whoever is behind this is hoping scores of them will be killed while cameras roll. All in time for the election. – from Gab
The either-or: Is it better that Trump orders a napalm sortie against that caravan or lets them cross the U.S. border?
The emotionally satisfying answer is easy to choose. And what is the objectively best course of action? Immigration is turning former nation-states into hell on Earth. A government for, of, and by its people will do what is necessary to repel any foreign invasion and remove the aliens already within its borders. Nothing else matters.
I don’t understand what is so difficult about this. The emotionally satisfying alternative is to napalm the invaders. It’s also the best long-term solution. Not that difficult.
But…but…the children!
And the pictures afterward.
And the international uproar.
And the howling of the abortingfems.
#NapalmTheCaravanNow
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Gotta confess napalm is a far more satisfying image than mere machinegunning.
Thermobaric maybe?
[Besides kinetic theatrics, a high killed-to wounded ratio minimizes the humanitarian problem of treating all the wounded you’d get with small arms fire. What, they’ll just get airlifted to US hospitals? — PA]
I’m more in favor of a couple strafing runs of BRRRRTT from an A10.
There WILL be survivors, and that’s the point. Survivors will be there to prevent a repeat occurance by telling the tales.
[on the other hand, controlled small arms fire lets you target-select for fighting age males. — PA]
OT, but i highly suggest anyone on here acquainted with the murder of the biking couple to head over to their website: simply cycling org. someone posing as “jay’s mom” posted replies to all recent comments. while i commiserate with her for her pain, i’m disappointed in her as she bought fully into the “wrong place at the wrong time” baloney. you’re always at the wrong place at the wrong time when you’re around muslims.
p.s.: i was cued into revisiting that website after noticing commenter Concerned American’s avatar. a parody pic of jay?
Military on the border, weapons free. It would only have to happen once! Not one single crosser!
Camp of the Saints.
https://archive.org/stream/Camp-Of-The-Saints-By-Jean-Raspail/book-camp-of-the-saints-by-jean-raspail_djvu.txt
[It was failure of nerve that did Europe in in that story. We didn’t love our world enough to kill that which threatens it. A cautionary tale. — PA]
One of the most disappointing things about Trump is how non-authoritarian he’s been (of course the Left screams exactly the opposite). Obama didn’t bat an eye when it came to dismantling immigration restrictions via executive order. Trump has full, black-letter authority to impose a ton of immigration restrictions, yet when some punk nobody judge attempts to shut him down, Trump just goes along with it. It’s a weakness for him: he believes in the system, even yet. He should tell the judges to go get bent: “try to stop me.”
Trump could and should stop ALL refugees, shut the border, but a hold on Visas of all kinds, etc. If he understood the cultural side of the battlefield better, a super smart move would be to cancel, effective immediately, all student visas. Not only would this remove a few hundred thousands Chinese and Indians we don’t need from America (and empty out my apartment building),
[LOL!!!!!! — PA]
it would be a serious financial blow to colleges, who are high in the pantheon of our cultural enemies. It’s exactly the kind of thing Obama would have had no problem doing. Instead, Trump tweets about how Congress needs to change the laws. It’s frustrating.
As for the caravan, Trump has threatened to “close the border,” and now he needs to do it. What happens when the human wave starts to swarm across, like they will? Well me, I would start shooting. You give a bunch of warnings over loud speakers — in Spanish of course! — saying if you charge we’re going to shoot, and then you do it. Anyone that makes it through is arrested.
Trump needs to make it military. Call it what it is: an illegal invasion, an act of war. That way you circumvent the legal process, which is a joke, and everyone gets tossed into military prison, processed quickly, and shipped back home.
[Something I have strong faith in: the military is loyal to Trump. I’ll go so far as to say, they love him and the right officers will follow his difficult orders. He knew that going in, judging by his acts immediately after inauguration. — PA]
OT, but i highly suggest anyone on here acquainted with the murder of the biking couple to head over to their website: simply cycling org. someone posing as “jay’s mom” posted replies to all recent comments. while i commiserate with her for her pain, i’m disappointed in her as she bought fully into the “wrong place at the wrong time” baloney. you’re always at the wrong place at the wrong time when you’re around muslims.
Thanks for the alert. I posted on that thread and crossposted here.
The latest Fast the Nation (episode 159) treats this Caravan question at length.
According to featured guest Ethnarch, the men in the Caravan are army irregular, or irregular combatants, and as such the standard international rules and laws re warfare, do not apply.
[Correct. The Geneva Convention protects non-combatant civilians from direct engagement and uniformed combatants from inhumane treatment once they surrender. Guerillas and other non-uniformed belligerents and are not protected in any way. Attempting to breach a sovereign border is a hostile act and thus fair game for return fire. — PA]
In other words they can be strafed, sprayed with DDT, and or put up on pikes to feed to the insects — and the UN has no basis to object.
Those details may not be exactly right, but that’s what I heard them say.
The whole question of rules regarding warfare, begs the question of What are rules?
Obviously they are what you can get away with, and it helps to win.
Ethnarch and McFeels made a case for sending into Mexico, American special forces to deal with them there.
I forgot what is the term for when our forces go into their country [forward deployment], but that’s the relevant operational concept for what we should do. Also we have designated special forces that not primarily combat orientated, for just this sort of thing. They are trained in civil engagement.
This is Trump’s moment. It is a huge test. How is it going to resolve?
Those two analysts also made the point, that Trump will want to “win” this situation by getting Mexico to deal with it as much as possible.
My money is that he is able to do that: to get Mexico to stop the Caravan; and he will probably be using his designated non-combat special forces to help achieve that, and he will want to keep our involvement in it as out of the media as possible.
The problem with that approach, even especially if it works, is that it doesn’t prevent future problems of the same sort.
[excellent summary/analysis. — PA]
I think it is a very good thing for the Right that this is happening now. The Left, as is typical, is pushing too soon.
[Yes. — PA]
They are going to make the great majority of Americans very angry and afraid that this is happening.
What Trump needs to do is have his first direct television address to the American people from the Oval Office, and lay out exactly what the situation is, why the migrants are doing what they’re doing (because they’ve figured out we aren’t serious about enforcing the border and won’t do anything to stop them) and how that is because the Democrats have rewarded border jumpers for decades.
He should point out how the Left wants the migrants to either cross without being stopped, to set a precedent to encourage millions more to cross, or else for them to be shot at, so that his administration can be portrayed as trigger-happy killers of innocent migrants.
Then he needs to make it crystal clear exactly what will happen if the border jumpers attempt to cross. He should do exactly whatever the law clearly gives him the legal tools to do, nothing more or less. He should get an emergency clarification from the Supreme Court or whomever you would do that with – Attorney General, whomever – as to what means of stopping the invaders he is legally authorized to do. If the opinion is that deadly force can’t be used, he shouldn’t use it.
If as a result, thousands spill across the border, Trump can say that this is because there is no wall, there are no effective laws preventing employment of illegals, and no serious consequences for illegals. And use it to demand immediate serious legal changes and a wall.
[I dont envision a scenario, at this point, in which letting them in under any circumstances or as any sort of leverage is useful. It will be rightly seen as fatal failure of leadership. It will embolden the Left writ large and demoralize all Right-leaning people, depressing their midterm turnout and possibly killing Trump’s chances in 2020. I do envision the opposite scenario in which border defense with deadly force will rally the Right and most of the fence-sitters behind Trump, especially if the bodies are heavy on ms-13 and sundry jihadist infiltrators. — PA]
It’s very interesting how this finally brings to a very clear head the fundamental moral conflict that underlies all of these recent problems: is it OK to shoot unarmed people who are attempting to swarm into property they don’t own, for the purpose of taking it for themselves?
If they were armed, there’d be no question it would be OK.
When was the last time police shot at rioters? 1965? Now they just let them run wild.
But we’ve developed a Western morality in the last 50 years that says you can’t shoot at unarmed people…which has meant that all criminals (i.e. illegal aliens) have to do is be unarmed and go where they want, knowing we have morally disarmed ourselves and can’t bring ourselves to use deadly force to stop it.
So either we start using deadly force, or we are conquered – through the border, through riots, through “occupations”, whatever. At some point we either start shooting – and take the heat for it – or we are conquered. It’s a binary choice, there’s no other way around it.
The cost of doing nothing, and losing our country, may well be far more terrible than napalming them. People of good conscience will rightly be horrified at the thought, but later when our nation is lost will say, “Why did we not do SOMETHING?”.
[That’s it. And to be a bit cynical about public sensitivity to bodies of women and such, it mattered not one bit in Iraq. Web search, there are tons of heartbreaking photos of murdered Iraqi civilians on the internet. If the US gov can get away with killing women and children as part of a criminal military campaign against a country that never threatened us, so much more so when we’re defending ourselves in the scenario of a resolve-testing juggernaut human wave. “But what of the media?! Wont they turn on Trump??” – “You mean they haven’t already waged total war against him?”
How will the public react to what the media does with such action? In the end, it’s about who comes out of it demoralized and who comes out deliriously energized by the boldness of his leaders. — PA]
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Napalming them would cost $$ money. Those planes cost a huge amount of $$ to put in the air.
We need to just pull diplomatic relations with Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras – freeze their assets and halt all $$ aid.
And then (most importantly) – confiscate and freeze all outgoing remittances of money $$ from the USA to these countries via their illegal aliens working here and sending money home thru Western Union, Moneygram and such.
That will solve the problem in 2 seconds.
And if you want to know why illegal immigrants have the idea that they are entitled to walk across our border just take a look here at the invitational stance of our last President Hussein.
This chick asks Obama what will happen to illegal immigrants who try to vote, Obama attempts to ** wink/wink* and ** nod/nod** his way through it – but the obvious question you’re left with is “why didn’t our own President bother to speak up and explain that ONLY citizens should vote” and that you can’t just label illegal aliens as citizens?
The AP was caught calling them an “army” . Much hilarity ensued.
In Long Island, NY 5,000 “unaccompanied minors” from central America were resettled into one area the size of two high school districts – then 27 murders committed by MS-13 in the next 4 years:
https://nypost.com/2017/05/24/ms-13-is-turning-long-island-into-a-homicide-hotbed/
The Care Van
It’s “radical autonomy,” man
Can’t nay-palm that
Or go rat-a-tat-tat
Jew bound
To change the globe
Crack America in half
Or in thirds with turds
From the world’s hoarded herds
With “muh nation”
“Our” only comeback…
Build a wall right where the caravan is and set up a passport check and ticket booth , come on in, but register, pay and accept RFID chip.
Then demand weekly check in via RFID Scan.
By the time you make them all wait in line for 72 hours you won’t need to shed one drop of blood.
If they refuse, drone them !
The original post picture, the guy the “future is female” tee shirt.
That tee shirt is brand new.
Clearly these people are being put up. Many good suggestions for Trump to take up on.
He will handle this well, almost for certain. Which means that no one is getting strafed AND no one is getting let in.
Good poem btw TD.
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Off topic. I left this comment today over at that Simply Cycling blog, run by the two now deceased swapple American bicycle tourists who were killed in Kyrgyzstan earlier this year.
I had thought about that thread quite a bit, and those two people and their deaths. As goes the cliche: what they meant.
— Which means that no one is getting strafed AND no one is getting let in.
Ultimately yes, I anticipate the same. Some satisfying short term resolution. And something spectacular once all of his ducks are in a row, as goes the long game. Trump’s not going to go soft like Reagan did with the ’86 Amnesty. He’s also not going to be the guy who loses his cool at the poker table at the wrong time.
But I wish to be a hothead today. I’m normally not but I’m one today:
Imagine that the government selects one occupied building per day per jurisdiction via lottery to pump s@r1n gas into its HVAC, killing everyone inside. It’s a matter of long standing policy, there are debates about it, timid conservatives declare that they dont mind the gassing as long as the selection process is transparent (there’ve been irregularities, and it’s OK to say that you’re against illegal gassing).
The gassing goes on for decades now.
Another wry blog post is written about it, another debunking of the supposed economic net-benefit of gassing. What can you do, right?
How in the hell isn’t settling 5,000 “unaccompanied minors” of steeply negative genetic, economic, and social value in the heartland any less malign as matter of policy than the above-imagined hypothetical mass murder. And then the metaculture of lies and hypocrisy about the whole thing.
One’s blood pressure stays low when he reminds himself that as Elk puts it,
“He will handle this well, almost for certain.” And that at some point the pretending has to stop and we have the napalm. There’s more but I’ll stop here.
And yeah, I also liked the poem.
“Crack America in half” – good line
“Or in thirds with turds” – good follow up.
The original post picture, the guy the “future is female” tee shirt.
That tee shirt is brand new.
Clearly these people are being put up.
Yeah man, I was thinking about the same thing! Like, just what in the absolute HELL is going on? Every time you wonder whether it’s you, or the world, that’s insane, you get something like this that makes it even crazier.
— Crack America in half
If a column of Palestinians similarly marched on Israel, would that “Crack Israel in half”? No, corpses would litter the desert.
That’s the problem. The very possibility of a country cracking in half over the defense of its border speaks to a profound social illness. The dislocated capacity for hate. Is Kate Steinle already forgotten? Arent there people whose loved ones were killed by a Honduran drunk driver?
What would a cracked country look like anyhow?
As long as they love America, let’s let a million of them in! They’re good hard workers, and hiring them to do my yardwork will free me up to pursue principled conservatism! I do so love losing gracefully!
Oooohhhh. So much to respond to, here.
If anyone cannot see this carnival…um, caravan, is organized and funded and being transported, they’re worse than NPCs, they’re brain dead.
I laugh at the idea of “minors” being a heartstring issue.
What do minors become? Adults, in the same stripe as their elders. Truth will out. It’s horrifying to consider, that root and branch must all be burned, but…
Truth will out.
Cormac ‘our man on Oprah’ McCarthy liked the phrase, Blood will out.
It was used a lot in his book, Suttree, which book still has NOT been purged from your local library.
It’s about this guy Suttree from the Mid-South, Tennessee, who comes of good blood and bone on his father’s side but his mother is more of a lowground hillbilly type, and Suttree has to reconcile these two genetic collaborations.
A quick glance at wiki says it is semi-autobiographical. But that designation is become meaningless. I have said many times that the only form of fiction left that has merit is autobiography.
The reason being that these days, unless one has a life that’s worth telling about: what has one to say?
There is obv meta point in there, about cultural capital and seed corn and where it comes from and what happens to it, and how much we have of it to spare. (We don’t have much left to spare. We’re not uh sitting around the lodge in wintertime talking about the great and exciting things that happened this year and many years ago. Rather we’re standing around in a cold field dazed and confused and hoping that Trump will stand firm for us, and that so will we.)
Regarding the Simply Cycling thread, referenced above and cross-posted at length by Yours_truly from a previous PA thread and on this one too.
One of the highlights to be gleaned from said thread, about the meta topic of our not being able to square with our one world shitlib hostile contraries on the question of what is reality — is on display in the excerpt above.
It is their framing of violence perpetrated against us as “random”.
I am kind of having a Flowers for Algernon struggle with this concept. It’s not actually that difficult, reconciling their view of the situation as random violence, versus our view of seeing that same violence in the context of what it is, which is race-based primarily but can also be characterized as idealogical ala Islam. Or more simply as violence that is part of a larger conflict and thus a larger pattern.
But them seeing and considering and framing these acts of violence, as random, reveals the essence of their perspective.
It’s the Eloi thing, or the nigger tax as Auster might have put it. Not noticing in Sailer’s phrase. Linder for a long time hammered on the meme of “the wrong place at the wrong time”.
They essentially characterize racial violence against Whites, and Islam, as random in the sense of an animal attack.
As if we are out on the mountain bike trail and get taken down a lion.
But even then it’s not random! because the lion selects for available and likely prey.
Something in the essence of our idealogical conflict with the one-world believers, is right in of our faces there.
Racism can save your life.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/25061434/utah-utes-track-athlete-lauren-mccluskey-shot-killed
“Utah track athlete Lauren McCluskey shot and killed”
She was killed in a senseless act of violence allegedly by 37-year-old sex offender Melvin Rowland, who ended his life with a self-inflicted gunshot wound in a church, according to University of Utah Police Services Lt. Brian Wahlin.
McCluskey was originally from Washington state. She would have graduated in May 2019 with a degree in communications. According to her mother, who provided a statement to KUTV 2News, McCluskey dated Rowland for a month, and he lied about “his name, his age, and his criminal history.” Classes have been cancelled today on campus.
^^^^^^^ But I’m confident that going out with this guy made the late Lauren McCluskey feel so very, very unracist.
Burn the coal, pay the toll.
If you have a black friend, you certainly know that he’s deliriously overjoyed to see such couples, at least pre-homicide. Some friendship, eh?
Eldest is in fourth grade with a few mystery meats. She doesn’t see any big deal about it.
Her class: 29 kids total for The Whole grade. Eight boys, the rest are girls. Five boys are mystery meat, all but two are from divorced parents.
This is her general, not-yet expanded mating pool in the peri pubescent period. Above her two grades, below one grade, enough white boys i guess, but Pozzed. White girls have a mating problem if they have good daddies. Not enough upstanding Christian white men to go around. Maybe Mormons had a reason for their heresy. I dig, but only now and then and when I wanna.
Camlost, the McCluskey case elicits my disgust, but a smattering of sympathy, too. Her parents…oh, if only her parents! If only they had…well, we’ll never know.
I transferred to a public HS in junior year, after an entire academic career spent in Catholic schools. I had black friends in grade school, only two and all female, so when my public school “friends” had black guys in their circle, I wasn’t particularly wary…at first. My dad was a hardass about it, though, and after a few parties I figured out why. And I started to really not like white boys who rapped, and white Girls who sharked. It took a while.
McCluskey, well, she should have listened though, right? Hell any feminist will tell you that their magic triangle drowns out Dad and and Patriarchy and and any notion that anyone other than Herself is her Safety.
If she couldn’t defend herself, some man is surely to blame…but not her attached, himself a victim, of course..
— Five boys are mystery meat
If you have a black friend, he’s creaming himself with joy to know that. (Excuse this occasional mantra, it’s not part of my reply to you, it’s consciousness raising. We all should harden the lines of separation from Resource Extraction Algorithms, a.k.a. nonWhites in White company).
I’ve no experience raising a girl. From what I see though, no need to overworry if there is a dad, just keep your eyes open. He doesn’t even have to be right wing, there just has to be a bond between them. An expanded social network in which there are more boys helps, the classroom can be claustrophobic.
Thankfully, by God, Husband is only partially Pozzed (he still thinks School! and the Military! (Particularly, the Air Force) can help Our Girls become productive career women…
Yet. His mom was home with him. My mom was home with me. I am home with our kids. And so I wonder why, if “Home with kids” is his key, does he support military careers for his two daughters?
He knows exactly how military women operate anyway. He was never a victim, but knew many men who were. Is it the “not my Joey “ mentality at work? And/or a “my girls before anything and against everything “ defense?
He’s about 1/16th red pilled. I’m frustrated but I also recognize I neither can, not should I, push it, nor leave.
@ Chakrates – He knows exactly how military women operate anyway.
Maybe PA can say more about this due to his time in the military, but my experience with enlisted women in the military shows that they generally aren’t a very sane bunch, many of them (literally) date their whole battalion within the first 2 years after boot camp. Being a psycho attention whore is not typical behavior for white women of quality, of course, but the military seems to attract these types to the ranks of enlisted women.
Here’s an example of what I mean – a famous case from a few years ago in the Marine Corps. Enlisted WM (woman marine) dates at least 4 different guys in her unit, is 8 months pregnant with a baby (surely by yet another unknown soldier) then goes to visit the married Marine (a Mexican) with whom she had been involved and was accusing of the rape. She goes to his house to talk to him to see him even though SHE was the one who had an outstanding protection/restraining order against him because of that rape charge.
So, he kills her after an argument, tries to burn the evidence in a grill and flees to Mexico. (was later caught and extradited back):
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/maria-lauterbach-murdered-cesar-laurean-guilty/
Yeah, the military is not a place for women. I was enlisted active duty Army in the early 90s. I slept with two decent looking Army chicks during my time, so no sour grapes on my end.
Objectively, they will all* fuck because they are surrounded by young fit men who vie for them. Further, it’s an environment that crushes femininity in the name of equality. This has the effect of imbuing these girls with institutionally-supported machismo, making them vulgar and husky/mannish voiced in their everyday manners. They’ll walk like men from all that marching.
1. *Two Exceptions: a blonde angelic beauty wrapping up her 3-year enlistment who had a civilian boyfriend in her distant home state. No phoniness, she was real. Radiated virtue. The unfortunate necessary farce of her daily life was that every sentence she said began with “My boyfriend.” We goofed on her for that but respected her purity.
2. Shory before I was to leave the Army, a super cute young E2 girl joined our unit, lived in our barracks, which were coed. She also put up massive virtue shields, in her case it was fervent Christianity. She was from some deep backwater, forget where. Maybe the Ozarks. Pretty face, sweet elfin body, a hillbilly accent one could barely understand, and crooked teeth (which I kinda have a thing for…) – the only other genuine article good girl I knew. I tried flirting with her once but her obvious unfamiliarity with aggressive male interest was obvious. Her alarmed facial expression cooled my engines instantly.
Ok, the sole two examples of purity, and this was almost three decades ago. Any man who thinks that gonna be his daughter might as well go and play the lottery while he’s at it.
Sure, there were young female enlistees who had steady boyfriends and didn’t behave scandalously, but they too were beating the odds.
I have horror stories. The chick who got fucked by literally half of her platoon, including various black drill instructors is a cliche, but that’s just words. When you meet one who reeks of yet some other guy’s fresh semen from fifteen minutes ago, you truly know disgust. Except that there’s the fun game of guessing who it was this time, as after a while guys would fuck her on the downlow because it’d be embarrassing to admit that you banged that.
The most typical though, was a chick who went through a series of short term boyfriends punctuated by a periodic drunk hookup. And that was before out-in-the open mudsharking was a thing. Typical thing in the barracks on a Friday evening: everyone is drunk and someone is banging on someone else’s door to borrow a condom.
Finally, I almost forgot to mention, some of the girls were situational lesbians. Everyone knew it, they didn’t hide it much. It was still illegal then, dont ask dont tell.
Typical thing in the barracks on a Friday evening:
LOL. Back at the military base where I grew up one the most lucrative careers around was paying $20 to the guy at the gate to wave you through so you could show up at the barracks on a Friday night payday with a car filled with pizzas, beer and liquor. You could charge triple the price $$$ to those noobs out of boot camp and they wouldn’t mind since a lot of them didn’t have cars anyway – if they wanted to go anywhere they’d gather up 8 jarheads and get a cab for the loooong ride to town.
But uber and online ordering have probably changed that, though.
Something I’m thankful for, is that my Basic Training was all-male. The Army didn’t integrate by sex until a few years later.
It would not have been the character-building experience it was, if there were females in our Company. Young (White) men dont just go into the military for material reasons. Many of us in fact want that, what’s the word, rite of passage with everything it’s supposed to be. Training alongside of women would have made the whole thing a joke.
The battalion buttercups are usually trouble. My friend’s mistress is enlisted. She flirts very heavily as soon as he’s out of sight. These girls approach sex like it’s a never ending pick-up hockey game; they play wing for older sadists, dauntless goalie for the stray & self-effacing experimenters.
My parents met in the Navy, A School, Great Lakes.
Dad was a field medic, and later a pharmacist. Mom, a nurse. Made sure the stateside wounded had top level care, and comfort. I was born on a naval hospital base, and lived there for a while. They were Non combat and I know no one respects that much.
White girls have a mating problem if they have good daddies. Not enough upstanding Christian white men to go around.
I have thought about this a lot, and am not convinced. “The men and women of every era deserve each other” –> I strongly believe this, and think that a young woman can go awfully far by maximizing her Girl Game. Hammering into her the head the importance of virginity by itself puts her into the top 1%.
SJ, iv never met a guy who values virginity.
I was a late bloomer, a Catholic, and a nerd. I gave it up to a guy I was with for eight years, he got tired of me and my itty bitty titties (yes, for real he wanted me to get implants, I refused). He married a stripper. I married a god. I guess we both won.
But, neither valued my virginity or lack thereof. Just a hole.
If jew act “randomly,” jew are radically autonomous.
If jew reject (P)erfection, jew are a perpetuating self-annihilator.
Radlibs and cuckservatives have been jew-wed.
Final Liberation is, inevitably, demonically SUMMONSED.
The bye-cyclers and tracked star being just the latest sub-missions.
@Chak, with respect, because I do like you, you have some weird ideas, and I’m really not sure what to say to you. You seem to have led a hard life.
Did you hear about the recent controversy around the blogger who dared to write that men prefer “debt-free virgins without tattoos”?
https://thetransformedwife.com/men-prefer-debt-free-virgins-without-tattoos/
Women around the internet got into a tizzy over this because they knew it was true. The sort of “upstanding Christian man” who is so upstanding as to be that rare certainly cares about all this.
@ Chakrates iv never met a guy who values virginity.
Testosterone cares naught about virginity, you’re right. Testosterone = impulsiveness.
Worthy societies (patriarchies) featured smart, long-term thinking folks developing oppressively complex and heavy rules and social mores that confine sexuality within marriage — and that yields virtuous, better looking women. (Europe) And the medieval church’s radical and repressive enforcement of monogamy and female virtue allowed Europe’s population to explode in comparison to Africa and the Middle East by about 1950.
All those medieval torture devices you see in books that were aimed at “wayward women” and whores did a great deal to winnow out the bad genes of those who can’t conform to laws and social conventions. Africans never had the benefit of rules, laws, anything that could help them evolve towards better behavior.
(And we all know that lesbianism makes women ugly almost overnight)
Matriarchal societies (Africa) have few rules, they’re lax on everything and men dance their way to showing their testosterone level and fitness as a sexual partner. The end result of matriarchy is the evolution of ugly, manly, whorish women and men that don’t have any impulse to be a provider or plan for anything that happens even 3 weeks down the road – it’s all about the moment and displaying your bling like a peacock.
We’re not quite in a full on matriarchy, but patriarchy is dead. The feminists just don’t want to stop beating the corpse.
Life wasn’t too rough, just not well planned. A lot of drifting, uncertainty, and chasing anything resembling stability, but I think that characterizes a decent chunk of kids who grew up in the 80s and 90s. It’s worse, now.
I gave it up to a guy I was with for eight years, he got tired of me and my itty bitty titties (yes, for real he wanted me to get implants, I refused). He married a stripper.
Well, not that I have any experience with sort of thing, but one of the alleged advantages of dating a stripper is because the fake boobs were already paid for by one of her old man customers – but you don’t want to be that complete sucker/future cuck who is $$ footing the bill for them. They ain’t cheap and they ain’t sexy to touch. And the majority of strippers are (you guessed it) – single moms.
In the professional world I’ve known of a few trophy wives – swinging type rich couples – that have gotten fake boobs for the misses after 30 and after kids, but that’s usually not a very well-adjusted marriage even though they may stay together to keep up appearances in their social niche.
Cosmetic surgery is false advertising.
As re aging women, Bill Burr back before he became irrelevant had some good material on it.
Breast implants are over-the-top extreme and even tragic.
I went to the coffee shop yesterday to kill an hour, and the barista was a not bad looking young twenty-ish girl who would have been bangable except that she had multiple lip piercings.
How gross is that?
No kissing for that mouth. It’s well known that kissing as a love making thing, is not something that they do in New Guinea. I don’t know for a fact what is the anthropological data for kissing, but it probably correlates with a lot of good stuff.
Former cadet here. It’s not just the enlisted women.
And yes, Chakrates: word got out one day that a certain decent-looking guy had slept with this one ugly, malformed Romanian chick that all of us loved to insult behind her back. I confronted him, “You actually had sex with That?” His response, word for word: “A hole is a hole.”
Another analogy: a certain Alpha jock who went on to be a fighter pilot brought this cute young civvie back to base. An hour later he’d kicked her out and was inviting us to look at the patch of blood on his bedsheets (where her pelvis would have been). A good laugh was had by all.
The military is so overtly sexual it’s not that far behind gay bathhouses, tbh. For a father to want his daughters in that environment, I can’t even imagine.
I meant anecdote, not analogy.
Kissing is probably the number one reason toothpaste and toothbrushes were invented.
Sitting in a plastic surgeon office, trying on different sized implants to get a sense of how they’d look, while your boyfriend looks on encouraging you to go “just a few cc’s more, just to see” is incredibly humiliating.
I dodged a bullet, big time. I really wish I’d seen it sooner and split. But good things happened to me either way. My husband is 10000x a better man. I don’t like myself from the past, but pessimistic Chakrates tends to always ask “what should I have done differently.” Answer: nothing, or else my life now would be different, too.
I’m sorry for the bad attitude and me-me-me of the past few days. I had a panic attack on Sunday, a bad one, and that is always followed by several days of deep depression and generally low function. I know lots of y’all think depression isn’t real, you just “get over it” but it’s not that easy. I’m “over it” now but I’ve also learned the proper care of brain and body after an episode.
No kissing for that mouth. It’s well known that kissing as a love making thing, is not something that they do in New Guinea. I don’t know for a fact what is the anthropological data for kissing, but it probably correlates with a lot of good stuff.
Tropical peoples don’t kiss much, that’s been shown by research. That would kinda make sense considering the hot conditions under which they evolved, I guess.
There’s research that a huge fraction of aged 40+ blacks have never even taken their clothes off fully for sex even once, all they do is just drop the drawers really fast and go.
@ PA – if you remember that complete nutcase T*whack that you banned here, he hit the roof when I told him that nobody (not even blacks themselves) wants to view black people’s fat lips locked and kissing and that nobody wants to see dark ass black nipples on a woman. But he knew I was right.
And, to his credit, when I once remarked that brothers will screw pretty much anything lighter-skinned than them – especially any fat white woman – he did admit that and reply back and say “yeah, you’re right – guilty as charged”. LOL
Black hair and any tinge of brown in the areolae are complete deal-killers for me, regardless of how finely – formed the woman is otherwise. Actual revulsion. I don’t even understand Yellow Fever.
More t-shirts with American political slogans, I think. Obviously distributed by US liberal groups.
I’ve got like 6 months of Spanish study, very weak. But I think these coordinated (white) t-shirt slogans say “Tu bienestar es nuestra debar” – “Your welfare is our duty”.
It’s clearly a crime under our constitution to (overtly) aid illegal immigration. It’s right there in writing.
I’m sorry, this deserves not to go unnoticed:
There’s research that a huge fraction of aged 40+ blacks have never even taken their clothes off fully for sex
– there’s research on this? Your tax dollars, ladies and germs.
How much of that, ehm, soft science research is psychology grad student theses that get signed off on by their prof?
Yeah, it makes a person realize how silly the entire academic edifice is. It’s a bit of an aside here, but I remember being an undergraduate, doing the grunt-work taking measurements for a science research project “officially” being conducted by my supervisor (and being published in her name), and at one point just pausing for a moment, marveling to myself that you know, I could be as careless as I like, or even just make the results up if I wanted to get out of here early, and no one will ever know. And if you think that isn’t going on all over the place, you haven’t ever worked in any kind of research.
CNN reporting that a 2nd caravan is forming in Guatemala.
@ SJ Esquire Yeah, it makes a person realize how silly the entire academic edifice is. It’s a bit of an aside here, but I remember being an undergraduate, doing the grunt-work taking measurements for a science research project “officially” being conducted by my supervisor
^^^ What you said seems likely for all of those liberal politics-infused experiments in social science that are said to be difficult to replicate.
@ SJ Esquire – There’s research that a huge fraction of aged 40+ blacks have never even taken their clothes off fully for sex
– there’s research on this? Your tax dollars, ladies and germs.
Yeah I saw that on St**rmfront, actually. Someone posted the link in a thread there and there were studies on it. And coming from a high school that was 50% black and seeing the behaviors there I surely believe it – they’d just hump anywhere and then come talk about it in the locker room during basketball practice.
Ok, I can’t stop laughing.
How I Ended Up In A Psych Ward On Election Night
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr…
During the final hour of November 8, I had committed myself to institutional psychiatric care.
I found out Donald Trump had won the Electoral College while midstream in providing a urine sample for the emergency psychiatric staff of a New York City public hospital. The unlockable bathroom door in this unescapable wing was ajar, and I could hear the victorious Mike Pence’s sinister Sunday-school baritone taunting me with the truth from the hallway television.
For the preceding witching hours of election night, I had lain in a fetal position amidst a cast of anonymous men nursing their own crises, my hands clasped tightly over my ears.
People hate invaders. People will hate invaders more in the future. Choices.
To the topic at hand…the kumbayah is strong in the plebes on down. Few people seem to grasp the sheer economics of allowing the invaders in. Even if you assume they are “looking for a better life” rather than an invasion force disguised as those looking for a better life, how can a recently recovering economy absorb that?
America is a big place, and at one time, it could accommodate. Not so much, anymore, but the Huddled Masses story is still hammered home and considered biblical truth by people far and wide. Please God grant that I can deprogram my kids…
At some point, you reach max density and then diminishing returns. You don’t even have to grasp calculus to know that curves *can* continue into infinity, but only absent certain restraints. Parabolas are more the trajectory of our everyday lives, and when the slingshot comes back…ooof.
This is “educated” versus “intelligent.” Hell, I’m educated. Lotsa grammar school and high school and college and life. Early on I was considered gifted but I was a big fish in a small pond. Managed to finish college and get a job, though. Husband? His cousin? Highly intelligent and didn’t need college to prove it. That’s the difference between engineers and other people.
How many engineers are we getting from the Honduran Circus? How many “educated” women will come from it?
There is literally no such thing as good immigration. That’s easily observable when the would-be comers are 90 IQ Aztec caravans with all the optics of orc armies in LOTR and with Salvadoran gangsters and Middle Easterners embedded among them. That’s an overt act of war and yes, it’s frustrating that some among the US masses dont see it as such. A napalm sortie would, perhaps more likely than not, reconfigure geopolitics, after the initial worldwide shock, for the better.
Recall the world condemning the 1989 Tienanmen Square massacre. Chinese government did what it had to do, and was stronger for it.
But even eugenic immigration is bad, worse in some important ways. Even if it’s non-hostile, such an intra-European or American Whites moving to other US states, it adversely affects the host area or country.
“They’re just looking for a better life.”
That was the original pro-immigrant slogan from the Clinton era, or even before.
It’s true of course. They, and every other amoeba on a planet, for every second of its life until it’s dead, is “looking for a better life.” That’s how we do, as biological organisms.
I’m looking for a better life too! And so are my kids!
I engineered all the screwdrivers in the garage to be a in row on the wall, short to long. There’s also two different different types, it turns out.
Why can’t we have a US-Mexico joint military operation in which the caravan is harassed with non-lethal force, then rounded up and dumped back into Honduras? Why is this so difficult?
Why can’t we have a US-Mexico joint military operation in which the caravan is harassed with non-lethal force, then rounded up and dumped back into Honduras? Why is this so difficult??
1. Because Mexico is broke
2. Because Mexico is not likely to support seeing the US get militant about turning back illegal invaders, since that could turn into the USA getting serious about intercepting their illegals next. (and we know what Mexico’s government benefits immensely from being able to ship their riffraff off to the USA while money them comes back across the border as remittances)
Mexico’s biggest source of income is remittances from the USA, it even surpasses their huge oil industry. And Mexico is a top 10 oil producer in the world, they produce more oil $$ profits than Libya or Qatar.
@SJ I’m sorry, this deserves not to go unnoticed:
There’s research that a huge fraction of aged 40+ blacks have never even taken their clothes off fully for sex
– there’s research on this? Your tax dollars, ladies and germs.
Yeah. I started public school in my junior year of high school. My town was a sending town to the district, and we all rode a bus together. A freshman girl usually sat with me. She was nice, wild, and loose. Had a reputation by grade 8. Ok.
White girl, blonde and blue, working class…she confided in me one day that she’d *finally* had sex with her shirt off, and really like it, the skin contact and all.
Ummm…
Finally? Like, intimacy was just some party trick, not a real human bonding thing. Thus we follows ours hallowed niggas down dey paff.
Mass immigration is real “climate change.”
It is a definitional precept that “conservatives” can survive on less than before. OTOH, anti-conservatives thrive with more than before. The Care Van Crossing memes little liberals will die (as wayward “conservatives”) while big liberals thrive and true conservatives simply surviving on less than before.
(and we know what Mexico’s government benefits immensely from being able to ship their riffraff off to the USA while money them comes back across the border as remittances)
It’s just unbelievable that under these conditions we don’t have enough leverage over Mexico to get them to stop what is essentially a bioweapon pointed straight at our border.
Actually, we probably do have leverage. We just have a bunch of cucks and suicidal shitlibs holding us back from using it.
— Actually, we probably do have leverage. We just have a bunch of cucks and suicidal shitlibs holding us back from using it.
Exactly. The real opponent in this game is not Mexico or a caravan of goblins assembled by Soros’ money, but the cabal / global finance cartel / cia / billionaire jews / what will you that has its tentacles in every American institution.
I sincerely believe that there would be no “reeeeeeee’ing” from any segment of the American public if deadly force were used by US military against that caravan at the US border. Talk about Winning, when a portion of 20,000 would-be invaders is incinerated. Diversity-fatigue is real. Even liberals would relish the sweet taste of protective force, the first time outside the South since… 1812?
@ MGE It’s just unbelievable that under these conditions we don’t have enough leverage over Mexico to get them to stop what is essentially a bioweapon pointed straight at our border.
Who exactly do you mean by we? The 25 regular posters here + Donald Trump?
Because prior to his election both the Republicans and Democrats in office just looooooved mass migration – for different reasons, of course. Democrats wanted future voters and Republicans were brainwashed by economic neoliberals and libertarians to want lots of dirt cheap labor for their small businesses.
This caravan stuff is working out perfectly, it’s awakening lukewarm core conservative America to the social engineering schemes of liberals who want to (radically) change our demographics for their own purposes.
Black female Democratic candidate here in Georgia talking about the “Blue Wave” she wants to see for this upcoming election: