The Oldest Living Insurgent

The 1944 Warsaw Uprising (not to be confused with the smaller Warsaw Ghetto Uprising one year earlier) took place 74 years ago. Today marks the anniversary of its collapse, 63 days after Zero Hour.

Kazimierz Klimczak (pseudonym “Szron,” or Frost) is the oldest living insurgent. He is a career soldier: rank of Sergeant during the Uprising and a commissioned officer post-war, retired as Colonel. Below are excerpts from his recent interview with a journalist, a pleasant young woman.

It’s fascinating to me to hear a participant in a historic event tell his story to an audience, of which most of whom weren’t even born until half-a-century or more after those events. There is inevitably a gap between their recollections and the filtered history learned by the subsequent generations. Some of us, or our children, might live to the age of 105 and keep a sharp mind. Will society tell a partly-false narrative, in good faith or otherwise, about things we remember differently? In fifty or seventy years, how will we talk about the Trump election or what we did during the events of 2019?

Transcript of the above video, my translation:

KLIMCZAK: I’m 105 years old, I can walk, I remember everything. I read without glasses and my hearing is good. First, I was a “criminal.” Then I was a “lackey of the London government.” And now, I’m a “hero.” The most loyal soldiers I had was during the Warsaw Uprising. I tell you, Miss, [chokes up] so many were killed.

JOURNALIST: Those were brave boys. They were boys, right?

KLIMCZAK: The oldest was 23 years old. Most of them were 17 or 18 years old. One was twelve. He’d run through alleyways, bringing me field reports. Those young people, they said: “This is our courtyard, this is our house and we will defend it.” I told them, “This is my creed: God, Honor, Fatherland — with those words we go to battle.” And that’s why we were a good unit.

My orders were to take charge of a street barricade. But it was in poor shape… some junk, a wardrobe, a dresser and such. So I went to the buildings on that street and told all of the people living there, “Listen, we have to make it stronger. It’s your security and mine.” So they carried down their refrigerators, washing machines. Laid dirt on it, and built that barricade.

JOURNALIST: Was it the Działdowska Street barricade?

KLIMCZAK: Yes, Działdowska. I even slept at the barricade. They brought me soup, bran pancakes,

JOURNALIST: Those were people you became close with. When they were dying, you had to come to terms with that.

KLIMCZAK: It hurt. Sometimes I couldn’t sleep. The worst was burying the fallen.

JOURNALIST: They were buried wherever it was possible?

KLIMCZAK: They were buried in parks, wherever. Today’s youth doesn’t appreciate this. But you should pray for the insurgents because they gave their lives. If people had been opposed to the Uprising, it would have been bad. But none were against it, everyone was steadfast. They shared food, they shared everything. “Luśka” (pseudonym) brought me supplies.

She was killed. Ripped in two. Luśka was my messenger. She’d bring me pancakes, cooked vegetables. I ordered my men to bury her with her body put back together. They tore off the sidewalk panels, dug a hole and covered her with sand. Luśka …  No, no, I don’t want to keep on talking because I have dreams at night about those things. Sometimes I don’t sleep because I see those images.

I saved a German once. He surrendered his pistol to me, he said in Polish “I swear I didn’t kill anyone, I was just firing into the air.”

JOURNALIST: Was that Mr. Janeczko, the half-Pole half-German whom you saved?

KLIMCZAK: Yes, Janeczko, he was a building contractor. I told my chief, “Let’s put him in the cellar, he’ll peel potatoes there.” I later tried to find him in Germany.

JOURNALIST: You weren’t able to?

KLIMCZAK: I wasn’t… People were so united during the Uprising. I never met a person back then who told me that the Uprising is unnecessary, but now that’s what’s being said. But had the Uprising never happened, you wouldn’t be here, I wouldn’t be here.

JOURNALIST: Colonel, when did you finally feel that Poland is free?

KLIMCZAK: I felt it back then, when young people stood together as one.

JOURNALIST: Really? During the Uprising?

KLIMCZAK: [Smiling] Yes. It was a different Poland. It was a generation that was raised in the spirit of the 120-year Partitions. My best commanding officer was “Hal.” He called me in before he was killed and said “My friend, if you survive the war, speak at schools.” And so I go to schools and sometimes discuss things with young people. They ask me, “If there were a mobilization, don’t you think that we would also take up arms?”

JOURNALIST: Would they? Do you think they’d fight?

KLIMCZAK: Yes, they would because dire circumstances bring us together. Poland is united in times of hardship but afterwards, everyone just goes off and looks out for himself.

End of transcript

Although the Warsaw Uprising was an apocalyptic event that resulted in the murder of an estimated 150,000 – 200,000 civilians and the compete destruction of the city, combat operations weren’t one-sided in one respect: combatant casualties. Specifically, the combined numbers of killed, missing and wounded is at approximately 20,200 for Armia Krajowa insurgents vs. 24,000 casualties suffered by German armed forces.

Klimczak gave a very long interview in 2013 (in Polish). It gives a vivid picture of things day-to-day. I’ll translate a few excerpts from it in the next post.

UPDATE: I translated portions of this fascinating and well-told personal account.]

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26 thoughts on “The Oldest Living Insurgent

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  2. This is the kind of Patriotism we idealize but do not realize due to CivNat, and more honestly, to a lack of real challenge in our lives.

    We do family reading hour every night. Modem off, tv off, tablets and phones silenced and put away…and we read, or do some form of handiwork, as I’m in the midst of domestic crafts as gifts for the Christmas season.

    I don’t need to stretch my imagination too far to see what might happen to us, except in terms of how to get my peeps woke. I have enough faith in humanity to know that, like the people of Warsaw, we’d gladly bring anything we had to protect our own.

    We don’t need much protection, lately, but that’s part of the problem and maybe a key to its solution.

  3. “Civic Nationalism” is such a contemptible thing. It’s pure cowardice. Once the Obama coalition saw us wobble, the animals moved in. One didn’t hear that term all that much before 2015 and identity was forced to the forefront. You could say that “color-blind Americanism” was a compromise for the sake of peace but it, clearly, failed to keep peace. The word “cuckservative” was watershed moment in politics.

  4. So I found a very long interview with Klimczak from 2013 on a National Remembrance website, and I am translating parts of it into English, will probably post it tomorrow. He goes into much more detail about some of the things he touches on in the 2018 interview above (which is just edited excerpts in the Youtube video). Fascinating stuff.

  5. As to inaccurate versions of history being taught, US Civil Rights events from the late 1960 are a huge example. The sanitized, deified official version is the one we’re all familiar with. Noble Negroes Nobly Marching. Meanwhile, oral history of actual historic eyewitnesses is very different. Jared Taylor’s AMREN about 15 years ago complied stories from that era. The famous Selma March, according to people who witnessed it, was exactly what you’d expect when wild blacks gather in a large group. Open-air fucking, lewdness and noise, assaults against local Whites, destruction of property.

    Another common thing in the 1960s was cases of suburban schoolkids on field trips to cities getting attacked by blacks. There were multiple examples of niggers grabbing a schoolgirl and stabbing a male classmate of that girl who came to her aid. It was because trip organizers and chaperones were accustomed to peaceful (fearful) blacks and didn’t expect to encounter violence in the city. Lots of such incidents published then in local newspapers but memory-holed over all that time when Liberals had a monopoly on transmitting history.

    Another bit of historic revisionism in the works: The Eighties. Some of us remember them crystal-clear, and they were, in a word, awesome. But with the Kavahaugh hearing, an attempt is made at creating a narrative about the decade being a hell of drunkenness and rape.

  6. Quick aside, if you were going to teach a nonnative speaker the Polish language, how would you begin?

    I only know basics, and a lot of swear words (babcia, she lived for Polish cuss words). My husband picks up Ukrainian pretty easily when he hears is regularly, but ask him to say anything and he’s tongue tied. Same here.

    Maybe I just need to be more friendly with the lovely people who own and operate the local Polish deli. Good stuff, domestic and imported EE goodness. Takes me back to the old neighborhoods in Newark and Harrison.

    See, civnat doesn’t work, does it? I’m third gen American, and still feel the need to connect to something beyond this muddy mess that is my milieu.

    Dad is Alsatian. Not French, not German, neither entirely. His dad spoke both, and English. I am not English. I’m closer to mom’s traditions and customs from physical proximity, and I’m American, but I can’t find any cultural foothold to which to cling. I find it difficult, Year after year, to enmesh my family in any culture at all —- This. Is. A. Huge. Problem.

    You need support. When everyone around you is so diverse from, and anyone similar is averse to your culture, you cannot sustain a real nation. A Real Nation.

  7. I have black friends. A few, and I know them from kindergarten. We diverged on our separate paths, but through mutual friends caught up on the years together.

    Those black girls? One has a PhD and is a college prof nearby. She’s pretty cool. The other is too, land owner and entrepreneur, makes bank as a single mom and biz owner.

    I’m sure, as you say, PA, that both would be happy to see me stumble. All of us can only maintain these facades of camaraderie while the getting is good.

  8. Please. Girls always know what they’re getting into. Smart ones, like the ones smart enough to get into PhD programs and teach at Stanford and recruit for the CIA?

    They know l

  9. KLIMCZAK: I’m 105 years old, I can walk, I remember everything

    Excellent; I love this so much (c.f. my comments elsewhere about people alive today who were living when the Romanovs were shot). How come we don’t hear more from these people and their accumulated wisdom? In any sane society their views would be greatly respected and looked to for guidance.

    —-> and as a matter of fact, I had typed that up before PA’s comment about Selma. Something badly needed by our side is a catalogue of the sort of “stories from when I was there” books and videos.

    We do family reading hour every night.

    Good stuff; we do too. Your children will look back very fondly on this when they are grown.

  10. hope so, SJ. I sometimes think I’m imposing too much lo-fi on them, but if we had to do without it, I’d rather they appreciate the ability.

    PA mentions gaps in our history versus our “history” and I’m in agreement. I never heard of the Warsaw Uprising (the ghetto, yes…the other? Hidden history). I’d heard of Katyn but didn’t understand the significance.

    My grandpa died when I was 21, so, a decade and some ago. He was Florekii, come here and lived in WI, and I still love him with all my heart. His mom, she spoke four languages but couldn’t read nor write in any of them. She left me a few beautiful things, female things, linens she decorated by her own hand. My grandfather…I have a fly rod he fashioned from bamboo, and the original reel he placed on it. A gift from a benevolent uncle. Culture has roots, no matter how insignificant or trivial we see them.

    MY FAMILY matters. To me. And maybe, to a nation, or a nascent one.

    See? At some point, the group gets too big. So you contract, and defend, and…and…and. And that’s how you Balkanize.

  11. He should have produced his memoirs. A mild violation of elderly protocol not to in his case. Even to give a basic account of his reputation being so metamorphosed. Looking forward to the interview translation.

  12. Another bit of historic revisionism in the works: The Eighties. Some of us remember them crystal-clear, and they were, in a word, awesome. But with the Kavahaugh hearing, an attempt is made at creating a narrative about the decade being a hell of drunkenness and rape.

    It would have been cool to take advantage of all that raping back when it was a thing.

  13. PA’s quoted bit there gives an opening onto that topic. On the current Krypto Report, Azzmador gives his personal story about how the “rape culture” that we grew up with in the 80s, played out in his life.

    It turns out that his girlfriend was “raped”. Azzmador is a hell of a storyteller and his show is doing very well. Let’s hope they keep their dicks up.

    But two quick larger points on the topic, and without wanting to hijack the thread.

    First is that the all the girls being “raped” was the motif that so many of them ended up with, that it had a large impact on Us, the poor emergent males of our hitherto lost and forgotten generation. I too have a story and it’s typically tawdry with some not-so-great sex and associated life outcomes that could have been otherwise. For the record I was never the one accused of raping anyone. But as we know now that’s not necessarily a good thing in fact it’s morally ambivalent.

    The second point is that the commonsense wisdom about what’s acceptable behavior for premarital consensual sex, has already been hashed out in red pill dispensaries for awhile now and doesn’t need repeated. But actually one of Azzmador’s statements, I was not in agreement with. For instance he was saying that young females shouldn’t be in the presence of men who take advantage of them, or at least shouldn’t be drunk in their presence. While that’s true, that doesn’t actually get to the exact issue of what’s consensual, and such a general admonishment somehow obscures it. Girls CAN actually say NO … up to a certain point.

    The larger point being that the behavior surrounding this issue of consent, is built on cultural norms which we don’t have anymore.

  14. Anyone maintaining good health past 80 and then past 100, is blessed with exceptional vigor scores. Luck and general good sense is part of long life too, of course. But as far as being healthy that long, and then to have lived through difficult times and challenges.

    Vigor is a concept that is obvious but it contains a lot.

    Not everyone gets the same amount of health points. Seeing my parents aged unexpectedly while only in their 70s, has been a reality check. I used to think I was blessed with good health but now know that my allotment in this regard is average at best.

    The health of a people is what sociologists are “supposed” to study (isn’t it?), and if they actually were to study that, it might be a worthwhile field. We would need OUR OWN sociologists though!

  15. The funny thing is that Western liberals think that they want to add huge amounts of Muslim “migrants” here. But what they’re too stupid to realize is that “rape” doesn’t exist under Islam, nor does the topic of “consent.”

    In the Islamic World a woman who is behind closed doors with a man who isn’t her relative in not only considered a whore and morally corrupt, but she has zero rights to not be raped. None.

  16. It’s difficult to impossible to formalize the rules defining what is consensual sex, without taking away some of the a large portion of the fun.

    And ironically (or whatever), the “fun” is more diminished on the side of the female partner, than it is on the male side of things. [*]

    This is just one of the unpleasant truths that is part of our animal nature. Imma go out and get me some ASS! (that’s how they used to talk)

    Bowery says that in his proposed voluntary social arrangement, any woman not the wife of a man, has the prerogative to call rape on a sexual partner. As I recall he put in a time constraint on that prerogative, maybe six months or a year.

    Under that arrangement, that makes sex outside of marriage a very dangerous proposition. That rule would need modifying.

  17. PA mentions gaps in our history versus our “history” and I’m in agreement. I never heard of the Warsaw Uprising (the ghetto, yes…the other? Hidden history). I’d heard of Katyn but didn’t understand the significance.

    I had never heard of Selma being like Freaknik. It’s similar to MLK being treated like he was not a drug addicted whore smackin “broken man”.

    Broken man is in quotes because I don’t know what else to call him. Calling him a broken man seems almost sympathetic but it’s not meant that way. He was another dysfunctional negro with a talent for oratory.

    His story is not so much of interest anymore. Negro Fatigue. There is a story in Rochester Minnesota that is the latest outrage porn. It’s pretty bad. A trailer park White gets executed by the black family grandchildren of his black trailer park neighbor whom he looked after out of the goodness of his heart.

    And then to make matters worse, the LEO in charge, Captain John Sherwin of Rochester PD, “”Everything that we’ve discovered in this investigation points that this was a tragic misunderstanding of assumptions”

    Rochester is a fairly important city. It has the Mayo Clinic, and it’s also ground zero for the social experiment of mixing up Africans into White City.

    So Captain John Sherwin has a chance to step onto a larger stage and choose his words carefully. What do his words above say about him?

  18. Sorry for the off topic on this current thread, about PA’s homeland.

    But the details of this Rochester are pretty bad. Talk about cold blooded stuff execution style. And then the fact that this guy was looking after an old lady, and then the fact that he himself had compromise health problems that made him vulnerable.

    Most Minnesotans have some familiarity with Rochester. It’s not Hicksville. It’s actually hugely prosperous due to being in Minnesota and then with that hospital. Apparently though there’s still trailer parks on the edge of town with trash niggers.

    Except that old lady was probably not a “trash nigger” however but here’s the thing: her grandchildren sure were. But it’s not just reversion to the mean though. That concept is accurate but it also paints over the reality of race conflict.

    The other frustrating thing, is that even though this is a very local story — even local stories don’t get any play anymore, it’s like there’s no discussion anywhere. The local coverage allows no commenting, that’s for sure. The employees of these local media outlets ought be shamed. And at some point, worse.

  19. Elk, you report from the ground on a matter I “see but cannot say” in real time.

    Mudshark grandparents looking after the mud puppies and expecting payment in kind.

    It ain’t gonna happen. Ain’t. Never.

    Biggest problem we have? We woke, they broke, and ne’er the twain shall meet.

  20. His story is not so much of interest anymore. Negro Fatigue. There is a story in Rochester Minnesota that is the latest outrage porn. It’s pretty bad. A trailer park White gets executed by the black family grandchildren of his black trailer park neighbor whom he looked after out of the goodness of his heart.

    I can’t imagine living out a winter in a mobile home in a place like Minnesota. brrrrrrrrr

  21. Way back on AmRen someone commented that trailer parks can be some of the Whitest places around because Section 8 doesn’t subsidize there. Especially if the residents have some leeway in discouraging full-paying blacks from moving in there. There was a COPS episode, maybe filmed in the late 90s, in which cops entered one such community (domestic disturbance call or such) and the camera showed a menacing looking Whites Only sign.

    The cops, of course, had to make a snide remark about that.

    PS: Minnesota winter? Yes please? We’ve had too many mild winters around here of late. I want snow.

  22. Way back on AmRen someone commented that trailer parks can be some of the Whitest places around because Section 8 doesn’t subsidize there.

    These days I’d be inclined to think that’s changed as the hotbeds of black-white race mixing are in 2 places now – military bases and anywhere that is the poorest $$ of low-end “relic” white working class city neighborhoods. Here in Atlanta that’s the entire Southern sector of the metro area.

    I’ll try to find the link, but there was a stat in our newspaper that in one county just outside Atlanta something like 12% of babies born to white women had a black father. And Army bases down South have a huge amount of black-white mixing – Fort Benning and Fort Bragg are especially bad, being located in 2 places where a military salary $$ represents a high income compared to the surroundings.

    The Army is much, much worse than USMC, Navy or USAF for that.

    Poorer working-class whites don’t want to live in cities in the South, they want to live far, far out. But the more “urban” they are the more prone to mixing with blacks they are – it means they can be on the same economic level.

  23. Oh, and does anybody remember our friend Tricki*n trying to make that ludicrous claim about 1/3 of white women working at his school having a black significant other? In Milwaukee? GTFOH

    I tore into his zebra carcass so quick that even he had to back off that ridiculous claim — which to his credit (admittedly) he did have the ability to both admit when he was wrong and to self-deprecate, something black males can usually never do outside of the talented twentieth.

    BTW – black/white race mixing also happens more frequently in the highly integrated Sun Belt and low-density places where blacks can have a decent quality of life. In highly segregated Chicago blacks are all crammed into tight neighborhoods where they don’t mix with whites very much.

  24. — in one county just outside Atlanta something like 12% of babies born to white women had a black father. And Army bases down South have a huge amount of black-white mixing – Fort Benning and Fort Bragg are especially bad

    Mixing is bad, we know it, but different people can have different reaction to the above facts. Some might hate it, some might shrug it off because you pick your emotional battles in life.

    But think about the person who reads that fact, and feels a warm surge of pleasure from reading it. Think about the person who feels compelled to make up fake statistics about an epidemic of Rust Belt ethnic Whites mixing it up with mestizos to make himself feel better. Is this person your friend? Do you have anything in common with him? Would you trust him, would you want him arguing his case on your blog, should you even hold the same citizenship?

    — I tore into his zebra carcass so quick

    Very vivid. I pictured those nature shows on the cable. Funny as hell, too, I read that comment while glancing at my phone outside and laughed.

  25. — Sorry for the off topic on this current thread, about PA’s homeland.

    No worries Elk, it’s a two-day-old thread that had run its course and as usual you say important and interesting things.

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