“Trump is doing his part for the benefit of the alt-right, now we have to do ours. The idea of the President as some omnipotent messiah/savior/mentor/benefactor who waves a magic wand and gives you everything you want is best left to the blacks and liberals.” — Camlost
I’ll fess up to a touch of “magic wand” optimism when Trump was elected:
If you’re tempted to be magnanimous with [the cracked Obama coalition], stop. First, they are still dangerous. Secondly, think two weeks ahead to all the empty place settings at Thanksgiving tables for the people taken from us by Social Justice scum. Let the libs twist in the wilderness. Reflection will do the misguided liberals good and the SJWs are dead to us anyway.
This is not a time to come together. This is a time to break the anti-Whites into submission and uncuck the culture. A president can do a lot — defund programs and smash the student loan racket, trust-bust the media monopolies, and above all, build the wall — but he needs creative volunteers who aren’t afraid of getting dirty. The Alt-Right has a talent for mass-persuasion and the game just got bigger. It’s not low-energy Jeb or crooked Hillary we’re up against this time, but the entire cultural agenda that had been set in motion decades ago.
Winning the election was euphoric. My notion of magic wand was that there would be this watershed moment of normal people seeing the light on liberalism, with AltRight at the vanguard of articulating the aspirations of a humiliated nation.
Events showed that it’ll be a much tougher slough. With regards to the public, there is the intractable Boomer anti-racism even among conservatives, along with the Stockholm Syndrome among Millennials.
If there were two sober-up moments from the election euphoria, the first one was the March 2017 missile lob at a Syrian air strip. That was my moment of doubt with Trump. I did a cartoon-post, showing the scorpion stinging the MAGA frog. Since then, I vowed to hold off on casting rash and definitive judgment about Trump’s moves on grounds that we see only a scintilla of a fraction of the war behind the scenes.
A year later, it’s become clear that The Swamp is not going away quietly. When it comes to fascinating speculation and analysis, Anonymous Conservative’s blog is where you appreciate what Trump’s up against, and you also get the feeling that the enemy is going down tough, but they’re going down.
And my second sober-up moment was the aftermath of the Charlottesville march last summer. The Swamp used the occasion to drum up panic among normies about the AltRight. And to carry on as though Hillary had won the election, with all the deplatforming of right wing bloggers. We may have been unwitting witnesses to a failed coup against Trump that summer. One liberal drunkenly confronted me (he sort of knows I’m involved in AltRight blogging) and made an overwrought case about Spencer and “Jew will not replace us” being a horrible thing to say. I corrected him: “They chanted ‘You will not replace us’” — the guy said “bullshit.” I replied: “Well, being replaced is a bad thing.” He just veered off into some other incoherence and I bailed from the convo. Point being, that should the AltRight take up arms or do some other decisive act, some of the idiot normies would cheer if government goons opened fire us.
However — those people are FOLLOWERS. Which means that it doesn’t matter what they think. They will think as they are told told. The AltRight and the spirit of Trump populism from the election campaign, with or without Trump, is the future.
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This strike is upsetting. All of this is no good. I don’t want to try to look for a silver lining. I know my time’s better spent being productive, no matter what.
This strike is upsetting.
Extremely.
This isn’t good but it’s not yet bad enough to justify turning against him.
How long is the right going to be cursed with the “superpower at any cost” mentality? So what if Syria is influenced by Iran
or Russia, or whatever? So what if some group of middle easterners launched a chemical attack at another?
For some reason the idea of being the big power is just too appealing to conservatives. Wish they were like this on fighting enemies at our southern border, or punishing the traitors in government.
Whatever happens, President Trump will produce the best outcome possible, most likely.
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I haven’t turned against him, but I’ve turned from him.
What have we got:
No wall (yeah yeah muh prototypes, but no appreciable funding)
Southern border no better (caravan of the saints is STILL coming)
Erosion of the 2A
Continuation and expansion of foreign wars (although no military assets in the field on our own border)
Judicial arm running amok (just how many battalions DO they have?)
FBI a legitimate rogue agency doing what it wants.
Ditto for CIA.
Obamacare remains (and unlikely to be challenged again)
Increased ownership of the levers of power by (((our greatest ally)))
Neocons back in charge (see Bolton and his entourage making a comeback)
Patriots remain in jail on bullshit charges while the likes of Clinton (either one) live the high life.
I could go on and on.
But hey, I’ve got more shekels in my pocket (does that make me a good goy?), and muh Gorsuch, which IS important but why isn’t Trump pushing more cases these Federal judges fuck him over on to the SC?
I’m sick of 4432356D chess, I’m sick of hearing nebulous rumors about the number of illegals dropping with no actual evidence, I’m sick of unchallenged attacks on the 2A, I’m sick of G-men hassling Patriots whilst letting criminals kill kids, etc etc, but most of all I’m sick of Trump running his mouth while not doing anything about any of it.
Remember we always talk about not listening to what women say, but watching what they do (or not do, as the case may be)?
I’m extremely disappointed at present, and vigorously hoping to be proven wrong. But I’ve said that before.
“This strike is upsetting. All of this is no good. I don’t want to try to look for a silver lining. I know my time’s better spent being productive, no matter what.”
clearly there’s some importance to serving Israel’s agenda in Syria that us plebes aren’t privy to. I can only guess what that is. maybe the US is so hamstrung by oil and/or debt that they’re not a sovereign nation anymore. maybe it’s all intentional theater between Russia and the US, towards some unknown end. so far, I’m inclined to think this is all theater.
Trump knows his supporters aren’t fools. he specifically catered to their pragmatic sensibilities and they carried him into office because of it. he knows that THEY know that 2+2 does not equal five, and that he’s not going to be able to convince them that no wall + wading deeper into the Middle East swamp while trying to drain our swamp over here somehow equals MAGA. so unless he offers up a decent explanation, his base is going to get icy cool real fast.
but yeah, I’m with you mendo. time to do something more productive. life is short.
Last year, on Easter Sunday, a live stream of Easter Mass in Egypt (Coptic) was interrupted by a terrorist attack. Was there no need to ‘retaliate’ then? Oh, they’re only Christians.
Trumpi’s tweet half an hour ago:
Strangely worded. He could be communication with Putin to diffuse WWIII. Could be blaming the UK and French governments. “Mission Accomplished” are toxic words and Trump certainly knows that. There is more than meets the eye to all of this.
Trump will have other means of communicating with Putin than Twitter.
His Twitter seems mostly about irritating and misleading foes; it doesn’t seem to do much good for his supporters.
In the final, Big ants gonna big ant. What’s a few bombs, right?
““Mission Accomplished” are toxic words and Trump certainly knows that.”
that’s hilarious. translation: f*** you
His Twitter seems mostly about irritating and misleading foes; it doesn’t seem to do much good for his supporters.
Agreed.
Mission Accomplished
HAHA…yeah, these are toxic words and now you got me thinking as to what “games” Trump is playing.
Still don’t like any of this but last year’s attack didn’t have any repercussions. Here’s hoping we get more of the same then.
Part of me wants to believe some of this is subterfuge so the swamp draining can commence. Quite interesting that these took place after this whole McCabe-Comey-Rosenstein affair got juicier.
The MSM has a one-track mind so what will they focus on? More Stormy Daniels?
WNs are selling themselves awful cheap.
What a pity all WN leaders are compared to Herr Hitler, who is 1000x what Trump could ever be. The real leader of the Aryan race in contrast to a NY real estate hustler.
Trump got “most” WNs out of a revolutionary mindset and back into The System.
Voting? Politics? Mass education? Won’t work inside a police state, as is now being tried.
WNs are looking for a dictator. America needs to be destroyed, not saved. A truly WN would happily “bust things out” and cause chaos.
WW3 would be the best thing that could ever happen. Police and military distraction. Go ahead and nuke LA, NYC and DC.
SUMMARY:
I mean this constructively to everyone here. Our fight is not about us winning. You cling to hope of winning now because of your overwhelming fear and your magnified vanity. You cling to institution, a false god. And to inferior others as if they are redeemable in the natural world, a sick universalism. Emotional attachment is your chains. George Lucas is a Buddist and was almost Red Pill before there was Red Pill.
DISCOURSE:
Rome was not built in a day. Our fight is about Western civilization winning well after we are dead, as a new organism. I believe I recall that 4chan had a change in ownership, but hope blooms eternal in faith, which needs a narrative and mob symbol. Trump, Q,… You are not important as a person in the process of evolution. Sheeple need to believe otherwise. Our timing is simply terrible for what we are intrinsically. This is decline, of our way of life and excellence, not of human parasites for now.
Institution and culture are antithetical. The euphoric liquidation transition from institution to culture is relatively fast and one-way. There is no going back because there is no fighting city hall. The infestation of locusts must exhaust the materialism it covets. You would do well to survive and merely pass on valuable wisdom earned from prime years lived in pain. Culture not institution. Evolution favors little units over big units. Fertile ground will be very hard to find. Inner game is creating fertile ground in oneself. Have you done that? Meek action beats grand hope.
This is a generational meatspace process and our zeitgeist is just another paragraph in history. You do not deserve natural redemption. Rightist populism is not the future for us. Not even close.
The game is the woman’s game now. She has been given sovereignty to set our social norms until they are sharia or are dissipated into survivalist isolation. Men are better than women. Act like it. Less talk. More personal agency, however limited. Let no personal opportunity be. Be masculine at both Yang and Yin. You may not win with Yang. The process requires victory with Yin. We are not the establishment. We are no longer defending anything of state. Defend only yourselves and let go of what is not yours and never was. Your expectations are not originally yours, and you are deceived by emotional attachment to what ‘should be’. What should be is you winning at the expense of hurtful inferiors as much as you can. That is your natural sovereignty, little but not nothing, and your responsibility and privilege. Keep it small and meek and you will not be paralyzed with fear. “Indiana, let it go.”
ADVANCED SELF-STUDY:
The Golden Rule is a lie. Animals are not peers to be treated ‘like you’. They require from you a different excellence than cerebral philosophy. No room to expound here. Only this: PUA is the way, words mean nothing to animals except what they mean to you.
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“What a pity all WN leaders are compared to Herr Hitler, who is 1000x what Trump could ever be.”
Hitler failed.
“The real leader of the Aryan race in contrast to a NY real estate hustler.”
right. see Germany, 2018. he made his people feel good for a minute, then pushed too hard too fast, underestimated how enemies, did not understand deception and subterfuge, did not listen to his smarter advisors, etc.
“WNs are looking for a dictator.”
projection. you’re craving to be dominated.
“America needs to be destroyed, not saved.”
projection. again. YOU need to be destroyed, not saved.
“A truly WN would happily “bust things out” and cause chaos.”
idiotic and nonsensical. white NATION-alism, as in N-A-T-I-O-N-building. you’re simply projection your childish video game fantasies of blowing things up that have absolutely nothing to do with nationalism. if you were serious you’d be doing it instead jerking off on comment boards..
“WW3 would be the best thing that could ever happen. Police and military distraction. Go ahead and nuke LA, NYC and DC.”
you’re a one-trick troll. gay.
People, Trump is not Hitler. He’s not Jesus.
He’s Paul Revere.
He has one duty – to give a loud and clear warning to his people about what is to come, he’s a fire bell in the night to wake core America from its slumbers after the madness that was Barack Obama. Nothing more, nothing less. Core, conservative America will have to fend for themselves and learn to fight – but the real work can”t even start for another 5 or 10 years at best, the groundwork has to be laid and there has to be some massive shift in consciousness amongst whites and that wasn’t going to happen overnight.
Only he could’ve done this – any mainstream cuck Republican (even Cruz) would’ve kept saying all of the same platitudes about mass immigration and trade that are the main reasons that have allowed America to progress this far in anti-white policies in the first place.
Getting butthurt about a few Tomahawks dropped on Damascus is silly and pointless. There’s a lot of old white guy engineers at Raytheon that need the work anyway, they’re the ones who make those missiles.
Alt-righters really should be ashamed of themselves if they’re combing the news every day like gossipy bit*ches getting upset that Trump did X or didn’t do Y. So fucki*ng what?!! There’s something really effeminate in that, in my opinion.
Well, for what it’s worth, I agree with (Ryu – HItler) + (plumpjack – not Hitler). This is like Sharktank where all the experts are more right than to the extent they agree. I think Camlost makes valid points but I don’t agree with his main thesis because the Syrian strike in fact does matter and laying (institutional) groundwork is not the answer but the problem, especially among a corrupt dimeedat people.
The Syrian strike matters already, even if there is not escalation to WWIII, because the application of power matters and clearly the globalists are in charge. That’s not draining the swamp. It’s capitulation or abetment. Winning is relative among the uncivilized, to wit, making the defacto inimee lose is prerequisite to uncivilized/animalistic winning. The stakes of Syria are not the point. If Trump had the power and the will, he would have done more by now. He has done much in comparision to previous Prezzies, but the libtards have run the table the last 50 years, including the last one with Trump, and only winning is winning. The hour is late. He’s 71. He has less than 3 years unless he wins office again. The data capture of these blogs will one day be used for the meatspace inquisition. Talk won’t cut it. Kathy Griffin symbolized what rank-and-file libtards are intending for all of us from their brain stems, and they are not afraid. They are more dangerous than ever.
Destroying non-Sunni Islam is likely part of the agenda, and a pipline to Europe. We see how Eurabia is lost by mass migration. I’m not sure the same old same old is not very bad for us. Trump won’t be around for ‘the real work’. Who will? The real work is done by drones and slaves, and I don’t expact that to change without…wait for it…change.
If the metric is not wS then chastising Trump is just the inherent hypocrisy of “radical autonomy.”
What is inevitable of the alt-rite is its failure into wS.
Trump is ONLY Right when he presses for white (S)upremacy and jew know this truth.
The question is whether the unprecedented triggering of {{{global anti-white (S)upremacy}}} on account of the “Trump Train” is genuine versus false flag trolling?
And because the alt-rite does not press Trump to white (S)upremacy, the dull mass cannot know for sure.
From the perspective of wS, the whole thing is “man, you fractured” theatre.
Agreed w/ Camlost. “Combing the news.” Speculation about ‘tweets;’ bubblegum reports of ancient aliens or various comic marches. It cheapens life on all levels. Live more!
It’s all so overwhelming.
It’s a Big Country but consider this boomer post.
This weekend was the best worstest alltime ever Spring Storm. Middle of April and a solid foot of new heavy snow, plus windgusts and drifts.
And the roads got freezing rained (beneath the snow), AND reduced visibility. Many were the cars and even one plow truck spun out and in the ditch.
Being by circumstance compelled out and twice nearly ‘stuck’ on an uphill behind some witless in a two-wheel drive, like a poor rabbit in an overcrowded tunnelrun.
It’s well known that these adverse natural disaster circumstances are the most exciting things.
The debate between Greg Cochran and David Reich needs to be front and center.
Who can lead this discussion? Sailer has done well in this, but he is not young and full of brimstone anymore. Cochran himself is too wonky.
So we need an intellectual hero.
The overall gist of it, is that paleo archeology is finally being shed light on, and it is as exciting as the glimmering hopes of our mythological dreams might liked.
Personally (as a circumcised retard) i find it frustrating, in that it’s hard to get a handle on. Next thing you know people are talking about haplogroups and it’s all like huh?
But those difficulties aside; two for-example items. The Stonehenge builders got wiped out, except their matriarchal line lives on. That’s kind of sad, from our perspective as Great White Race Advocates; or is it?
Secondly. The Indians are not First Nations. They are all a bunch of imposters.
Third. Africans are apes. Literally, they are somewhere between half and eight per cent, ape. This is not hyperbole, and of all the emerging controversy, surely this is the most hahahahahaha of all.
Sorry nikcrit, but it’s true. Or so they say. I don’t have the science, and am just (to my best efforts) relating what is being presented by those who seem to know.
Hominids left African a long time ago, and those who did evolved. Eventually some of them returned and fucked the monkeys who never left, and consequently Michelle Obama and Patrick Ewing and any of a billion other examples.
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Third. Africans are apes. Literally, they are somewhere between fifty percent, and eight percent, ape.
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For some reason this crucial number is up in the air. If Africans are only eight per cent monkey, then that’s one thing but if they are half ape that’s pretty bad.
I don’t get these “ghost population genetics” and what that means. What they are implying is that half their ancestors were monkeys, but then so why don’t we just say that they’re half monkeys?
If someone with more science can present this shit with clarity, and from a non-jew perspective, that will be very helpful. Not to mention that said someone will get to be a hero, or at least a star.
Realistically though, and on a more serious note.
There very much is something to the jew angle that Reich (apparently) takes.
I used to like to think that my ancestors built Stonehenge, where the demons played and the cats meowed. But it turns out that those people who were such mystics and totally at peace with the world and their place in it, all got mowed down after being tortured to death by Conan, except those suitable for breeding.
It just puts the ephemery of it all so clear.
Who are We then?
Look at our accomplishments. Going to the moon is GAY.
It never did anything for you or anyone you know.
What matters is how we live, in the environment that we inhabit. Not how some imbecile in fifty generations might get a chance to ET phone home.
And how we are doing that is utter epic failure.
The habitit that we created is the suburbs. And to top that off it’s ruled by ‘businessmen’ and women.
A people has to be evaluated by its legacy. America’s legacy is the suburbs.
How does that speak of the people who created it?
— Third. Africans are apes.
That will be the big question of the 21st century. If you pay attention, you can already hear it being “asked.” Was there ever a more spectacular gap between the aspirations of 20th century idealist who wanted to uplift the nigger and the resulting product? No shame on those of us who always saw hubris in the endeavor.
— It cheapens life on all levels. Live more!
Balance in all things, including attention to private and public spheres, right? I gardened all day Friday and yesterday. No Rototiller, I did the whole thing with a shovel. Feels good.
— People, Trump is not Hitler. He’s not Jesus. // He’s Paul Revere.
Thought provoking comparison.
Trump was blackmailed into bombing Syria. The deep state didn’t get what it wanted out of the Mueller investigation so they resorted to illegally raiding his attorney’s office to get dirt on him.
https://dailystormer.name/the-michael-cohen-raid-means-all-trumps-secret-information-is-in-the-possession-of-his-enemies/
“Trump was blackmailed into bombing Syria.”
pour yourself a nice, cold glass of lemonade, grab yourself a copy of Art of the Deal, go out on the porch and have a nice read.
at the very least, we know nothing of what’s going on. the raid on Cohen may have been staged. Cohen may have been tipped off in advance. we can’t possibly know whether this has any relevance of not.
regarding AoD, it is known that trump as one of his strategies, deliberately makes people think he’s weak, unpredictable, compromised, scared, etc. it’s effective. if we could predict his next move then so could his enemies. the fact that almost the entire alt right is pissing it’s panties should tell you that if that IS what he’s doing, then it works.
so just chill out and watch the show. it’s just getting started.
For you, Elk…
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/black-people-according-to-the-1911-britannica/#comments
My only correction would be that “white man” has not evolved from ape-man. As for “blacks,” I’m ruthlessly agnostic.
It is not inconceivable at all that “black” man derived from ape-man and “white” man derived from Adam and Eve and (R)eality can accommodate these (t)ruths.
IMO we can’t really call “True Negroids,” i.e. Congoids (aka “Bantus” ) a separate race. Whites/East Asians/Amerindians are separate races, while Congoids are a separate subspecies.
Just as whites/East Asians/Amerindians are all localized variations of the hybrid Homo Sapiens/Neanderthal population, that entered Central Asia, and then branched east and west, the Congoids are a hybrid of Homo Sapiens/Homo Erectus.
We know Caucasians/East Asians/Amerindians are 2-4% Neanderthal, AT LEAST, with some arguing it could be upwards of 15-20%, and we also know that Congoids are at least 2-4% descended from a supposedly unknown species. The problem is that the species isn’t unknown, it’s most likely Homo Erectus, but that would destroy the career of any anthropologist or biologist who demonstrated that, because while the Neanderthals have a stigma, that stigma is largely undeserved, while Homo Erectus was substantially more apelike than other hominid species. If you google “Homo Erectus Reconstruction” it will be apparent what the problem is. A late-era, surviving population of H. erectus likely mixed with pure H. sapiens in Central-West Africa and spread out from there.
Pure H. Sapiens were Khoisan-related peoples, who once inhabited all of Sub-Saharan Africa before the great genocide following the Bantu/Congoid Migration. Now they exist in marginal environments of Southern Africa (such as the !Kung Bushmen of the Kalihari in Namibia), where the Congoids chose not to follow. The Khoisan today look more negroid than their ancestors did, but even today still have the medium-brown color and East Asian facial features.
Even from a Darwinian point of view, blacks were never the “original man.” They were always a hybrid, just like us.
This just my interpretation, obviously. We’re in an interesting period for anthropology. The entire Neanderthal genome has been mapped now, so many discoveries are likely. Poz needs to let the scientists do their jobs. They can’t really stop this; the Chinese will go there no matter what, and that will change everything.
Sailer does a write-up of some of what I was trying to summarize, in his latest Takimag article Ghosts of Africa.
He clarifies that ghost populations are archaic populations for which there is genetic evidence but not archeological. And also regarding how much monkey per West African:
That eight per cent amount is of a specific ghost population tentatively referred to as monkeyshines.
Eight per cent is not so much, but how much of the rest of their genome will not be archaic?
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From that abagond link, it is speculated that “ “the growth of the brain is … arrested by the premature closing of the cranial sutures and lateral pressure of the frontal bone.”
That sounds like it would be an easy question for the right specialists to evaluate.
The origin of Nordic features fascinates me. I believe that established theories provide for a bottleneck process of some kind, whereby chance mutation occurred and then they were sexually selected-for with apparently such aggressiveness (and help from a harsh northern environment), that they became the sole phenotype in northeastern Europe.
I find that explanation inadequate. And keep in mind, that Nordic is a subset of the European race whose brown-eyed, brown-haired members have more in common with Nordics than they do with everyone else.
It strains credulity, to assume that Europeans are result of some kind of purification (and skin-lightening, and face-reconstructing) process post-Africa exodus. And are Neanderthals also assumed to be out of Africa?
All this hair splitting about race is futile. It’s like determining an exact delineation between “green” and “yellow.”
Reality is people split up how they split up. The definition is ex post facto.
And are Neanderthals also assumed to be out of Africa?
The standard explanation is that Homo Erectus left Africa between one and two million years ago, and evolved into various groups including Neanderthal.
Which explanation is NOT the old trendy Out of Africa theory which was that Anatomically Modern Humans later left Africa around 100 thousand years ago and replaced the earlier populations around the globe.
The multiple origins theory was never disproved, it was merely unfashionable (un-PC).
I don’t know whether the current dogma as presented at Wiki, of Homo Erectus leaving Africa one or two million years ago, is valid or not.
Is the origins of Erectus as under revision as are now the origins of AMH?
In all likelihood, yes.
It would seem strange, if Erectus origins were still as clear as Out of Africa was presented as being. On the other hand, maybe Erectus origins are somehow less disputed.
All this hair splitting about race is futile. It’s like determining an exact delineation between “green” and “yellow.”
That’s not exactly true though.
The population groups in question, in other words the Races in question, do NOT exist on a continuum, as does the color spectrum. Which if i understand it, does exist on a continuum and is differentiated internally by the human brain.
The Races in question cluster genetically.
The shapes of those clusters involves very complex maths, but they are DEFINITELY quantifiable.
What level, or at what fractal, we choose to quantify ourselves at, is something else and part of the question. But it remains that these population groups are to some-whatever-extent, ‘discreet’ categories. [‘discreet’ may not be a scientifically correct word here — but its colloquial use in the above context is right.]
The old joke by Italian geneticist Cavalli-Sforza was the that genetic population groups cluster like a Stormfront poster would draw them.
I get frustrated with the topic myself. It’s complicated and takes effort and concentration, to just get a handle on the basic theories and questions.
Out of Africa versus Multiple Origins, ten twenty years ago, was the popular ‘big question’ on the issue for the informed lay person.
But even that was a gross simplification. Out of Africa was a good title for a movie — and a good soundbite, hahaha — and as such it was presented as an origin story.
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How far back until humans have a common ancestor?
It’s probably at least a million years. Not long ago they said it was only 40 thousand years ago.
“I find that explanation inadequate. And keep in mind, that Nordic is a subset of the European race whose brown-eyed, brown-haired members have more in common with Nordics than they do with everyone else.”
the obvious answer, to me at least, is selective culling/breeding.
I am waiting for Cochran to write a book. He participates at Sailer’s often enough.
Here is an idea for a title — “Who We Are and How We Got Here, the non-jewed version”
Greg is fully red baroned, he is like 80th level patriarch. The non-jew version of that book exists: in blog format. It would great if someone would collate and index. I like pictures!
— Out of Africa versus Multiple Origins
As you note, even with Multiple Origins, a common ancestor is presumed, the only question being how far back. How did a straight-haired, fair skinned Neanderthal evolve from an ape. What evolutionary pressures would have reconstructed an ape face into the European’s profile?
— the obvious answer, to me at least, is selective culling/breeding.
It works as a model, but to me it isn’t persuasive because it demands a scientific husbandry breeding explanation that is implausible, given reasonable assumptions about large-scale human behavior. Without an external agency, you are not going to see proto-Somalis become modern Finns.
“We’re in an interesting period for anthropology. The entire Neanderthal genome has been mapped now, so many discoveries are likely.”
iirc, several hundred thousand years ago there may have been a many as SIX different hominid species living on Earth at the same time. talk about diversity! we presently have the genomes for three, “modern humans”, neanderthals, and denisovans. we’ll need more to fill in the blanks.
but yeah, we’re all basically hominid mutts, with some lineages that are obviously superior. we really shouldn’t need DNA sequencing to know that nords are nothing like niggers, but since the marxists love theyselves some science, we may as well get them where they’re weak.
we COULD build some truly spectacular humans if we did selective breeding on ourselves like our ancestors did. that is probably the future anyway. heirloom humans. heh.
“It works as a model, but to me it isn’t persuasive because it demands a scientific husbandry breeding model that is plausible. Without an external agency, you are not going to see proto-Somalis become modern Finns.”
I see what your saying. what is the magic spark that created the great leap forward? some theorize it was psychedelic mushrooms. maybe it was all environmental selection.
I do know this: God/nature has a taste for aesthetics. if it were only a matter of functionality, everything would be mud brown and camouflage. obviously that’s the not the case. the driver of aesthetics in nature is sexual selection. it gives you all kinds of completely impractical adaptations such as peacocks’ tails and birds of paradise…and Nordics, probably.
so it could be: sexual selection by discerning females + lots of cold nights and hard winters => nordics
an x factor, however, is rape. in forced sex, who’s doing the sexual selecting? the guy? or the girl?
so it could be: sexual selection by discerning females + lots of cold nights and hard winters + competition between men for a shortage of available females => nordics
or… was it competition among females for a shortage of available males?
hmmm…
The population groups in question, in other words the Races in question, do NOT exist on a continuum, as does the color spectrum. — Elk
If one understands his race as his father(s) then one is most definitely on a vigorous continuum.
And so every white son faces the dilemma of being the last link on a patriarchal chain going back to the Origin.
ThInking in terms of collective racial survival requires both a basic understanding of your race as your father(s) and a dispassionate affair with the evolutionary “truths” of “population groups.”
@thordaddy
“For you, Elk…
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/black-people-according-to-the-1911-britannica/#comments”
found a very interesting comment on that post, from the proprietor, no less:
“@ thordaddy
“Abagond,
Bull…
Does “evolution” make room for the black Supremacist?
Do YOU believe in “descent with modification,” Catholic?”
Fuck you. You are banned. You repeatedly derail my threads and show little interest in remaining on topic. Screw that. Go mumble your deranged shit in the subway.”
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/black-people-according-to-the-1911-britannica/#comment-115354
Ha!
Don’t feel bad. I got banned from Abagond, too. The guy has no clue about most of what he posts about.
My understanding of the physical changes of populations is that sexual selection is the most influential process. Blue eyes, fair skin, blond hair, silky hair, etc., all signal neotony, and instinctively register as youthful traits. So it’s men doing the selecting of women in K-based, colder regions, and they are choosing those traits that signal youth on women. The men have the power to select mates due to male provisioning being much more necessary for survival in colder (or more arid ) climates. Or that is the most common explanation as far as I know (not much overall).
What’s oddest to me is that some of these traits are present in us at very young ages. For example, men are supposed to have selected for women with straight hair, as it signified youth. Well, all humans, even blacks, have relatively straight (meaning non-kinky) hair as infants. In blacks, this coils up over time. It’s also not uncommon for babies in Asian countries to hand blue eyes early on, which transform into brown over time. The same with blond hair. Our hair is light blind as young children, and grows darker over time. The most extreme example is supposed to be epicanthal folds (“East Asian eyes,” but they exist in Icelanders other groups too). Everyone has these in the womb. Every single fetus. Many of us have these as infants and lose them over time. The reason that East Asians are supposed to have maintained them (according to what I’ve read), is that because East Asians didn’t have the mutations for long-term light hair and eyes, other, more extreme indicators of neotony were selected for, such as epicanthal folds, a more gracile body composition, straighter hair, etc. basically, East Asian women lacked light hair and eyes, so they became ultra-feminine over time.
There are instances of this kind of thing in history, also. Just to give a brief example, Abd-ar Rahman III, the greatest of the Umayyad Caliphs of Córdoba, had blond hair and blue eyes, since his Berber/Syrian Arab male ancestors had continually married Visigothic women. Pretty much everywhere on Earth, lighter color in women is desirable, as an indicator of neotony. Even in West Africa, women who are described as “red” are more desirable than ones who are black. In East Asia, women were lightening themselves long before Europeans showed up (the East Asian female white color is much more extreme than natural European coloration), and it doesn’t exist solely due to the stigma of those having to work out of doors.
Ha, look at all this shit I wrote. Gonna have to unwind by trolling Abagond’s butthurt ass.
Ponder how disconcerting it is for the high IQ “white” to consider that a white boy possesses God-ordained free will and the nigger and Ashkenazi do not?
The very essence of a cucked up mind is arrogating free will where it is denied and denying free will where it is asserted.
There simply is no political solution set to mutually govern those who possess God-ordained free and those who do not. What is suffered instead is the dogma of “universal equality” which says all are possessed of God-ordained free will or none are possessed.
But truth be told…
The white (S)upremacist possesses God-ordained free will and the anti-wS does not.
Alt-rite is anti-wS.
The population groups in question, in other words the Races in question, do NOT exist on a continuum, as does the color spectrum. — Elk
If one understands his race as his father(s) then one is most definitely on a vigorous continuum.
My comment was that the races PLURAL do not exist on a continuum with each other.
What Thor is alluding to is something else entirely.
There simply is no political solution set to mutually govern those who possess God-ordained free [will] and those who do not.
Bowery proposes that full Citizens be required to submit to challenges of Natural Duel from other full Citizens; but not every one has to be a Citizen.
Any man or woman qualifies as a full Citizen, upon his or her declaration.
The population groups in question, in other words the Races in question, do NOT exist on a continuum, as does the color spectrum.
I know, it’s not a perfect analogy.
What level, or at what fractal, we choose to quantify ourselves at, is something else and part of the question.
Exactly, people divide up how they divide up. It’s an organic process. The quandary is that white people are being prevented from doing this by every institution in the West.
Sorry to link to the NYT nikcrit style, but this is just too good.
Yes.
Well I’m growing weary and fatigued of paying for the babies your people pump out, at my expense. I’m tired of the pathological levels of crime your people commit. I’m sick of affirmative action, the whining, the endless guilt tripping, etc, etc, etc… = (I read somewhere that the cost of having black people in this country is roughly the size of our military budget.)
The answer is option A: Give up. We suck. Move on with your life.
It’s not an illness. White people have an in group preference, just like you and everyone else. But you want the goodies that come with white civilization, so the entire struggle of your people is to reform US, to make US more favorable to YOU. What kind of sick fuck thinks like this?
If you need a better host to attach to, try your luck with the Japanese or Chinese. Go ahead. Who’s stopping you?
Now we’re getting somewhere.
Here’s a better option, why not just teleport yourself to Wakanda?
Where is your courage, Mr. Yancy? You have an entire continent at your disposal, full of black people just waiting for you to build
More effeminate whining from someone who has made an entire career out of white racism. (Seriously, google his bio. Literally everything he has written is about racism).
https://goo.gl/images/8yTWyp
He goes on like this:
This guy, Mr. Yancy, is a sick fuck, who is only happy when white people are self flagellating. His entire vignette in the NYT is a story about how he emotionally manipulated his white students to write shit like this. But there is hope! This is the top comment, and it bears the NYT seal of approval!
That article is absolutely infuriating.
He does need to go back. Moreso than others, even.
“Give up on white people.”
Just go away. Who stays where they aren’t wanted? Damn.
Love the line-by-line commentary, MGE. Heartistian in its bite.
— Who stays where they aren’t wanted?
I once fed a stray cat and the fucking thing just wouldn’t go away…
Not my joke, I read this elsewhere: Colonial America borrowed 12 million Africans with ave. IQ of 70. Time to give ’em back — 40 million of them at 85 average IQ. Reparations!
regarding AoD, it is known that trump as one of his strategies, deliberately makes people think he’s weak, unpredictable, compromised, scared, etc. it’s effective. if we could predict his next move then so could his enemies. the fact that almost the entire alt right is pissing it’s panties should tell you that if that IS what he’s doing, then it works.
More 3D underwater chess. Yeah right. Trump pissed away what little political capital he had by picking way too many fights with the wrong people.
Now look what we have, a budget that allocates another $3 billion for the kike ethnostate but no border wall. Great job, Trump.
Who stays where they aren’t wanted? Damn.
The truly oppressed desire separation.
The Neanderthal connection is true but is a side issue.
Yes, “this” has happened before. The Thal is the native European.
About 75-40K years ago, nigger hordes invaded Europe.
The women were kept as camp whores, the men eaten, the male children turned into Janissaries. It was the thal that domesticated animals, painted caves, and so on.
The Thals put up a good fight but were outnumbered better than 100 to one. A small part made it to the far north and to the mountains, and there was a last stand in Iberia.
Modern whites are a hybrid between the Thal and Sapian. The more thal, the more “white.”
Not my joke, I read this elsewhere: Colonial America borrowed 12 million Africans with ave. IQ of 70. Time to give ’em back — 40 million of them at 85 average IQ. Reparations!
Haha! Love it.
I’m sick of BS about muh slavery being the worst thing ever. Most slaves were treated pretty well in the South. You were probably better off being a slave on a cotton plantation than an Irish coal miner or child laborer in a garment factory in the north.
Elk…
What “we” know intuitively is that each and every white boy has a unique line of fathers going back to an Origin that will either persist or perish depending on the white boy’s embrace or rejection of fatherhood. And what “we” can surmise from this intuition is that even one change in “father” anywhere along this “line” and Elk is someone else, entirely. Now the question is whether this racial continuum can exist within the anti-racist chaos?
And although it seems as though the self-annihilators are winning out, the “game” is eternal.
A Race to the (S)ingularity, Elk.
Are you in or out?
Excellent point.
The Thals put up a good fight but were outnumbered better than 100 to one. A small part made it to the far north and to the mountains, and there was a last stand in Iberia.
Modern whites are a hybrid between the Thal and Sapian. The more thal, the more “white.”
Neat origin story, Ryu.
However.
The new accepted facts is that Whites — along with every other non-African — is between 1 and 4 per cent “Thal”.
And the point in question, is that White Euros do NOT have more Neanderthal admixture than other non-Africans.
There were Neanderthal populations that were more Asian and spread East and South and got mixed in with all those Darkies.
So by the metric that more Neanderthal equals White, half the throwbacks in SE Asia are more white than half of Icelanders.
That Ryu puts forth his neat wanna-believe origin story, gets to the very thing that Reich baby boy blue bases his assault on.
Reich baby boy blue criticizes White Advocates who think that they are defending something that is special in a sense of being “pure” and unlike all the other Hominid hybrids.
Whites ARE unlike the others in a lot of ways, but it’s not that they’re “Thal” and it’s not that they’re pure.
Frankly I think and feel Reich’s criticism is valid. In the sense that the Hominid hybridization is being revealed, and that it’s all so impermanent.
We’re not the Atlanteans. We didn’t build Stonehenge where the demons roared and the cats meowed. And most laughably, we’re not Thals.
Deal with it.
Saying that we’re special because we are “Thals” is about the best example of a wannabe make believe origin story, that i have ever heard. So hat tip on that.
It is an example of Confabulism, or maybe magical thinking, or something. Such thinking has value if it appeals to enough people that it gives them meaning and purpose in working together toward commons ends dreams and goals.
So what do you all think? Shall we call our team the Thals?
Or is it better as it was Onward ho Christian soldiers!
In case the reader didn’t know, “thal” is german for valley. Neanderthal means the Neander valley, which was where the remains of these hominids were found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neandertal_(valley)
Regarding whitey, it seems much too soon to speculate on origins. Latest word is some sort of beaker culture invaders? But then, who knows what we will see in a decade or two. Yet it seems safe to say we’re not negroes, middle easterners, various sorts of asians, negritos, abbos, etc.
Reich is being brought forth as the acceptable Judeo-Harvardian face of ancient DNA research, that’s about all, and what he will say will thus conform to the conventional pieties.
And my second sober-up moment was the aftermath of the Charlottesville march last summer. The Swamp used the occasion to drum up panic among normies about the AltRight.
Recall that Trump stood on the side of the alt-right then, at least to a greater extent than numerous alt-right personalities who soon thereafter fell off and started incessantly crying about optics (and haven’t stopped yet). A pity. I wonder what happened off-stage?
— Recall that Trump stood on the side of the alt-right then
Good point, that was a big deal.
Magic wand…
Watch it spawn
A crack at dawn
Peep a song
Hear the Word
Which moves along…
Hopes eternal
Springs a fawn
Oh dear!
Crisis near
My identity wrong.
Who will wave the magic wand?
The magic wand will be the #Pizzagate videos & pictures. For maximum effect we have to prep the ground so that once they start coming out people wont just look away in horror.
This means taking down a few big names at a time, if they put out a video of Crooked Eye Clinton having a seizure face down on a 5 year old Haitian girls vag now it would be too shocking.