What about the Mixed-Race People?

I started replying to a valued commenter but the subject is big enough for its own post.

WRT De Niro and other race mixers, do you honestly believe De Niro “settled” for his wife and then went on to have 3 kids by her?

I can’t speak to Robert De Niro’s psyche and motives except to go by the most superficial of appearances. Paul McCartney and John Lennon, with their apex-male options, also married women whom the ruthless eye of the sexual market, in that league, would have judged harshly. But you marry whom you marry. Some men connect with one woman differently than with all the others. Other men, even alphas, are ensnared into commitment.

Greg Johnson’s proposal for dealing with mixed race people in the formation of a white ethnostate would be to allow a one time “reset”.

Does he think in present-time orientation or in a multi-generational perspective? Not rhetorical, I am not familiar with his work. These “re-sets” become one-way concessions like Ronald Reagan’s 1986 amnesty, whose conservative terms were never honored. “We’ll keep what you had already dumped into our cribs but no more” is an admission that we’re dealing with something unwanted that we’d rather cap off and dilute in the wombs of our neighbors’ daughters than repel outright because… why?

Racial tolerance, even in moderation, is nihilism. To be OK with this or that percentage of mixing and the passing-on of those mixed genes into the next generation, is to assent to an incremental but mathematically certain drowning out of the European race.

It is not a big leap, to go from agreeing to let a few hundred thousand or million browned people graft themselves onto our branch, to welcoming the inflow of one billion Africans into the West. After all, why not just re-set things there. You say what? they are rapists? Eh, transition pains, it’ll pass. In the meantime, stop struggling and it won’t hurt!

We don’t occupy much of the planet. There is no justification for any presence of non-Whites, which includes mixed-race people, among us. It’s all-downside for us, it’s all parasite’s-upside for them. As goes our destiny as a people, we neither want them integrated among us by government fiat, nor do we want them here settling into an underclass by laissez faire. Either our own faces represent all of our social classes or it gets ugly.

We are not anyone’s habitat. We are not anyone’s genetic feed-lot. If someone had already polluted his line, too bad. It’s not right to ask the children of those who stayed faithful to accommodate a mixer’s bush-trophy. Nie mój cyrk, nie moje małpy (not my circus, not my monkeys), as goes the Polish quip. They have to go back.

Anyway, this stuff is all kinda LARPY to me, but fun to argue.

It would be LARPy if we individually deemed ourselves able to control the macro-trends or on the other extreme, if we pursued this discussion in a bloodless academic spirit as though nothing’s at stake. The purpose of these discussions is to see our civilization and our nations as comprised of people like you and me — links that connect our ancestors with our descendants — and to understand the reach and bounds of our agency, as well as our own role in this rushing river of the worldwide reassertion of every nation’s right to be what it is.

The matter of identity is not complicated. We are European men and women who claim our ancestral lands. I have been to places where everyone is of the same race and ethnicity, and to ones that have had diversity inflicted upon them. The contrast between the two is that of life vs. death. That is not a hyperbole.

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46 thoughts on “What about the Mixed-Race People?

  1. Excellent post.

    What to do about mixed-race people is a tricky question for American whites especially because we’re mostly the result of the mixing of various European ethnicities. So to justify a white American racial identity that is based on mixed European ethnicities, while excluding from it those who have non-European mixed ethnicity, you have to make a convincing case that there is a clear and meaningful distinction between the European ethnicities and any other. And then you open yourself to arguments about which ethnicities on the southeast borders of Europe are really European and which are more asian than European, etc. It is difficult to draw a sharp line on the map and say “everyone northwest of here is European enough and everyone southeast of here is not”.

    My current take on it is that these issues will ultimately be decided on the basis of emotion and instinct and not on logic. The affinity we feel for people of our own race is a gut feeling, an instinct, a primal drive, exactly the same sort of thing as the feelings of loyalty and belonging we have for our own families. If a race war breaks out, people will not be choosing sides based on some logical argument about geography and DNA, but on the basis of which group they look like. They will be accepted in that group based on how the others feel about how they look. This is what happens in prisons, places of intense potential danger and conflict where people group together for safety. No one in prison is having intellectual arguments about whether this or that race should be considered white or black enough…it’s all based on a very simple evaluation of which group accepts you and which group would kick your ass. And that’s how I see this national/racial question working out too. Eventually the violence starts, as it always does in multiracial countries, and the mixed race people will or won’t be accepted by this or that group based on the individual receptions they receive by the people in those groups. People will self-sort. Multi-racial people like Obama may have the worst of it because they won’t really be accepted and comfortable anywhere.

    So my point is that in a way we don’t have to worry about the question because it will likely not be solved by policy but by “facts on the ground”. Anyone who is not white enough will find it too uncomfortable to remain. Those who are barely white enough will never feel really at home and in a new white America where whites are openly proud of being white and determined to explicitly celebrate and protect their racial identity, mixed-race people who are just barely white enough to “pass” will do everything they can to fit in. And many will just leave for friendlier territories.

  2. There is a vast gulf between rational discussion and what actually occurs as a consequence of (anything BUT rational) human social behavior, rendering every bit of this discussion academic in the extreme. It’s very difficult to peer into the murk of the future for this very reason; could any of us imagined, from 30 years ago, half of the batguano crazy collective behavior of today, even though it’s all naught but a straight-line projection of trends that were obvious in 1987?

    Here, when the supertanker of collective herd Narrative has visibly begun to stop spinning to port, and appears to (maybe) be putting in some starboard pressure to the rudder, it becomes even more difficult to imagine the future. Straight line projection is already inadequate even when the trends continue; if trend change is upon us, we navigate into utterly uncharted waters.

    Or do we? It may be so much sophistry, but there are historical examples of the kind of conditions that seem likely to arrive. My preferred model is the English Civil War, which I believe is about to enter its second installment over basically the same fundamental disagreement.

    In our hubris, most discussions about humanity drip with the notion that we are not of nature but rise to ride astride it. At a basic level, this is the Welfare State; an institution whose entire purpose is to ameliorate the harsh judgement of Nature, who (left to her own devices) renders implacable punishment for any behavior that is anti-production/anti-self-control/anti-social. A beehive surely lets any defective males or queens die early, or the hive ceases to exist entirely. This is true of all social creatures, and mankind is a hive-minded animal if ever one existed.

    The urge toward xenophilia, the novel and the exotic is part of Nature’s sword of genetic renewal, but it’s always a “cuts both ways” kind of thing: The offspring of such unions face culling from biochemical Nature and human social Nature. If ugly, stupid, dangerous, etc. the hive will push them into the snow to die. Or it did…once, back when resources were so tight that lifeboat ethics were utterly universal.

    Are Africans and NW Europeans at opposite ends of a spectrum of human attributes (due to major differences in selective pressures over a long period of time?) It appears so. Do the offspring of such pairings predominantly exhibit one ancestry or another, or is the outcome a complete 52-card shuffle of genetic chance? I don’t think anyone even knows. (For example: if ~5% of Africans have the 2-repeat allele MAO-A genetic sequence, AKA the (misnamed) “warrior gene,” is the probability of harboring this sequence for a person who is 80% African/20% Anglo-Saxon now 4%? Is the add-mixture linear? I haven’t seen one bit of data on this.

    To me, all this is interesting but nearly irrelevant. The First World West has existed in a collective belief in unlimited resources for between 50 and 70 years, with the last 36 of them embracing the belief that unlimited prosperity can be created by issuing IOU’s by the ocean-full. During this latest phase of debt-fueled collective insanity, social pathology underpinned by the cult religious belief in Equalism joined with unlimited resources to get the herd to invite a limitless parade of exotic and foreign into close proximity, openly sharing their food, water, land…even their beds and their daughters…with the utterly alien, celebrating the resulting hybrids as bridges to a New And Better World.

    It remains my belief that this is quite literally a fad, just another (if largest-ever) instance of Mackay’s Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. I cannot see an alternative to my own synthesis, which has that the period of debt assumption was an unprecedented period of capital consumption that will inevitably lead to a catastrophic realization of sudden poverty once the Long Boom (and the mass psychological mania that fuels it) ends.

    When this Poseidon Adventure occurs, the normal state of human affairs, LIFEBOAT ETHICS, will return in ways we cannot currently begin to imagine. The herd will invert from “Everything is Awesome,” “invite the world, embrace the world, have sex with the world” to “I’m scared of them, and the only way I’ll feel safe is if THEY are either on the other side of an ocean or the other side of the veil of life…i.e., dead.”

    Hybrids will be trapped in No Man’s Land because neither core group will trust them, and being untrusted will the tantamount to Nature’s demand you be culled.

    The saddest and most difficult part of this is that race is only one determinant. I believe the theory that behavioral mutations are the real problem facing humanity now is highly credible, in part because of the skyrocketing rate of social dysfunction displayed by whites. The coming conflagration will be Nature simply reasserting her normal weeding of the bad seeds (and she’s not that discriminating, so a lot of good gets culled with the bad) and the snap-back phase promises an epic level of hardship accompanied by extremely harsh lifeboat-ethic decisions falling on even those who superficially look like us. Race, ethnicity and language may be early signals driving group coalescence, but in the end it will still be “whose presence makes me more likely to survive and whose presence is nothing but a burden?”

    100 years of ameliorating the suffering of children because their parents were lacking fitness to survive is going to haunt the hell out of us.

  3. Does he think in present-time orientation or in a multi-generational perspective? Not rhetorical, I am not familiar with his work.

    I found the podcast with Tara McCarthy in which he discusses the mixed race question… upon a second listen, his position is more similar to Jim Bob’s, minus the violence, though he says that people with a marginal admixture who wish to identify as white should be able to. The whole thing is worth a listen but the relevant snippet starts at 46:00

  4. (For example: if ~5% of Africans have the 2-repeat allele MAO-A genetic sequence, AKA the (misnamed) “warrior gene,” is the probability of harboring this sequence for a person who is 80% African/20% Anglo-Saxon now 4%? Is the add-mixture linear? I haven’t seen one bit of data on this.

    Yes it is indeed misnamed. People with the MAOA-L variant have a greater tendency toward impulsive aggression when socially isolated or provoked, basically the opposite behavior of a good warrior, who remains calm but aggressive within an hierarchical structure conducting organized, goal directed violence.

    There’s a lot more to it than that, since no single gene can be tied directly to a behavior. There are other factors at play, including other genes and socialization.

    https://www.mygenefood.com/warrior-gene-5-common-myths/

  5. Aristotle writes:

    The class which farms it should, ideally, if we can choose at will, be slaves – but slaves not drawn from a single stock, or from stocks of a spirited temperament. This will at once secure the advantage of a good supply of labor and eliminate any danger of revolutionary designs.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/02/aristotle-on-immigration-diversity-and-democracy/

    Gary Brecher writes:

    The revolts started early and just kept on coming. Now this is a weird thing, the way the Haitian slaves kept on fighting back. Because — and I’m sorry to be so un-PC here, but it’s the truth — slaves in the British possession didn’t revolt much. There never was a big, serious slave revolt in the South, for example. Not even when the Union troops got close. Even then the slaves did what their masters told them to do.

    But the French didn’t do as good a job of breaking down the new slaves. The English in Jamaica, Barbados and the Southern US states made sure slaves from different tribes were mixed up, made it punishable by flogging or worse to speak African languages, and forced the blacks to find Christ or die. (Ah, you gotta love those Evangelical assholes!)

    The French were sloppy. They let slaves from the same tribes stay together and speak their African languages. They let escaped slaves set up their own villages way inside the tropical forests. They let the slaves keep up African religions — that’s what voodoo is. And they started up a separate mulatto class.

    Guess what? It blowed up. It blowed up real good. The first big explosion was in 1751. A voodoo priest stirred up the escaped slaves in the forest and they attacked the settlements. The field slaves joined them, and 6,000 people died before the French captured the voodoo priest and burned him at the stake.

    Then came the French Revolution. Kaboom! All Hell breaks loose, not just in Europe but everywhere the French had colonized. The radicals in Paris order that any mulatto who owns land can vote and be a citizen. The Haiti colonists say no way. So this time it’s the mulattos who revolt, in 1790. And the funny part is that this time, the black slaves get payback on their light-skinned ex-friends by joining the French to stomp the rebel mulattoes.

    In 1791, just one year after they helped the French crush the mulatto rebellion, the blacks started their own. It was the big one, with a half-dozen brilliant guerrilla commanders, some of them smart and decent like Toussaint l’Ouverture, and others just plain scary, like Jeannot, the guy whose armies marched with a white baby on a pike as their flag.

    They had a simple policy: kill every white you find, and burn everything. They torched the whole island. Ships at sea said the place was smoking literally for months.

    http://exiledonline.com/homage-to-haiti-a-war-nerd-classic/

    The ancients knew that a person with an identity made for a dangerous slave. Identity enables organization and organization enables revolt.

    The English colonies race-mixed their Africans and destroyed their identity. Result: not a single revolt of any significance.

    The French colonies did not race-mix their Africans and let them keep their identity. Result: the Africans organized, revolted and exterminated the French.

    The purpose of identity is to enable the expression of group interests in order to resist exploitation.

    The purpose of race mixing is the destruction of identity.

    The object of race mixing is the creation of slaves.

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  6. “This is what happens in prisons, places of intense potential danger and conflict where people group together for safety. No one in prison is having intellectual arguments about whether this or that race should be considered white or black enough…it’s all based on a very simple evaluation of which group accepts you and which group would kick your ass.”

    Jim-Bob, come on man, haven’t you seen American History X? That’s exactly what happens! Blacks and whites dialogue together, white people repent and become soft-hearted, clear-eyed liberals.

    Seriously tho, one of the things that fascinates me about issues like this is what PA eloquently wrote: “This rushing river of the worldwide reassertion of every nation’s right to be what it is.” This river is very obviously getting wider, and sweeping people downstream to logical conclusions. 5 years ago I was on the fence about women voting, Now, I wouldn’t allow them to vote for the local dog-catcher. In the beginning Heartiste didn’t write much at all about race, and if I remember correctly, he used to be very ambivalent about race-mixing, but now he’s way downstream from that. The debate about circumcision there recently. Before reading the different arguments, I was ambivalent about that, but not anymore, because I see the logical, downstream conclusion much more clearly, that it’s at the core a denial and erasure of our European tradition and identity.

    PA – outstanding work.

  7. nxx14
    “The ancients knew that a person with an identity made for a dangerous slave. Identity enables organization and organization enables revolt…The object of race mixing is the creation of slaves.”

    This. That’s powerful

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  9. Ryu, Spencer has been, generally speaking, all for the European Union project. The Poles aren’t going to trust him any more than the Hungarians did. The Hungarians actually put him in jail, and Hungary seems like the most nationalist nation in Europe right now. In other words, he just doesn’t appeal to European nationalists, and probably wouldn’t appeal to Americans if he didn’t get so much publicity for being banned from speaking.

    As to mixed race people- I think in terms of city-states. In fact, even for whites, we probably need more local city-states than we do an entire continent or something. So, generally, you start a city with whatever group of people (if it were a brand new city, they’d all be from somewhere else) and after some generations, you have a people who are now identifiable as the people of that city. The rootless people begin to have roots- and as long as economics and government are right, they are going to want to stay where they have roots.

    Rome began with people who weren’t Roman, but eventually you could say, “hey, that guy looks Roman.”

  10. Can Spencer really do much for EE Nationalism, anyway? Their nationalism has to come from within and makes sense in their terms.

  11. An “identity” is origin + final destination.

    The West is in a state of “radical autonomy” because she denies both her origin (of the Father) and her final destination (Heaven) and has literally squashed her “reality” down to nothing other than perpetual “identity crisis.” So the practical, modern result is a Western who not only denies her very conception, but assures all, that upon her death, is total annihilation.

    When the white West can once again say that this his race is his father(s) then a potential for a regenerate “operating system” will arise.

  12. There was a time, perhaps 15 years ago, when I believed that color blind civic nationalist policies could work. I thought that a traditionalist minded leader could take power and restore America. Soft eugenics policies could be implemented. After a few generations the troublemakers would all be gone.

    This will never happen, and it would never have worked. Any minority will simply be used as a cudgel against whites. Now instead of advocating soft eugenics I find that I am advocating soft genocide. We just need to encourage non-whites to leave and form their own societies.

  13. — My current take on it is that these issues will ultimately be decided on the basis of emotion and instinct and not on logic. (Jim-Bob)

    That’s my view as well. Nobody is going to run around with a clipboard checking off people’s pedigrees. Gut instincts and trust by appearance and cultural signals that can’t be faked, like you say.

    — “whose presence makes me more likely to survive and whose presence is nothing but a burden?” (dc sunsets)

    Great entire comment. If anyone just skimmed over it, you’ll want to to re-read. In general I tend to take apocalyptic prognoses with a grain of salt, even if they are made by highly intelligent commenters, because the male imagination tends toward the epic. But you make a solid case here and at V.P. for the end of the credit “good times” bubble.

    — The object of race mixing is the creation of slaves. (nxx14)

    Your juxtaposition of Aristotle and War Nerd, followed by your conclusion, was the most clear-headed denounciation of race mixing I have ever read.

    — 5 years ago I was on the fence about women voting, Now, I wouldn’t allow them to vote for the local dog-catcher. (Major7)

    Great point in conecting my river metaphor with how individual and aggregate beliefs are logically carried in the same direction: the defense of European tradition and identity, and how that is a natural process.

    As to Poland’s refusal to let Richard Spencer speak there, I agree with August Hurtel’s and Camlost’s replies. Spencer is among other things, a pot-stirrer and neither Poland nor Hungary are in need of any “creative chaos” on the racial front, especially if kicked up by a controversial foreigner. The government may well have seen him as an unneeded headache.

    — origin (of the Father) and her final destination (Heaven) (Thordaddy)

    Always good to remember that.

    — Any minority will simply be used as a cudgel against whites. (reluctantreactionary)

    It would even be so in an un-kiked society, if the ruling powers were allowed to become corrupt enough to use them as a convenient tool.

  14. What about East Asians? If we ended mass immigration the Eurasians could be totally absorbed the same as the Cherokee. Also they won’t cause the same problems as other groups, even though they do pose a political threat.
    I am wondering what everyone thinks in this instance. Are they the same useless eaters as biracial white/black offspring?

  15. I find the European version of WN disturbing, PA.

    So, we are to have “Polish” WN, a Czech WN, German WN, Russian, and so on? No comradery?

    The problem is, only Russia, the USA and perhaps Germany are strong enough to take on the rest of the world alone. Anything smaller gets crushed by ZOG.

    I’d be very happy to let in any white person – Boer, Ozzie, Canadian, Pole, into a white ethnostate. It is offensive when others will not do the same.

    If Poland and Hungary won’t back a Murkan WN, why should we back them? Charity?

  16. WynnLloyd, that’s a big topic. Curious what others have to say.

    Ryu, there is camaraderie in emergencies, like at Katrina Superdome when White tourists from USA and various other countries formed a perimeter. That, and an innate pre-rational recognition that we are human beings even if we’re at war with each other, unlike the others. But the individual nations are not soluble in “generic white.” National identity is the life force. You have your own, American, but maybe you take it for granted like a fish takes wetness for granted.

    Even within the USA, there are nations such as Southerners and Mormons and several others. If you’re not one of them, you’ll know it. I speak standard northeastern US English without any foreign accent (or a hint of one, depending on whom you ask) and hell no, I’ll never be accepted as one of the Southern guys, even when they’re very friendly. I spent some time down there in my youth.

    Poland and Hungary don’t want any charity from the US. All they ask, is that the US government and its NGO proxies let up the pressure on “liberal reforms” in those countries.

  17. I find the European version of WN disturbing, PA.

    So, we are to have “Polish” WN, a Czech WN, German WN, Russian, and so on? No comradery?

    Ryu, you consistently say that you want whites to think tribally. It makes very little sense for WN’s in Poland or the Czech Republic etc. to take their cues or think they have much of anything to learn from American WNism under that scenario.

    Leave the world government and “international movement” stuff to the SJW globalist liberals, Europeans are always best under loose confederations and under local control.

  18. The matter of identity is not complicated. We are European men and women who claim our ancestral lands. I have been to places where everyone is of the same race and ethnicity, and to ones that have had diversity inflicted upon them. The contrast between the two is that of life vs. death. That is not a hyperbole. – PA

    “Suppose two men at cards with nothing to wager save their lives. Who has not heard such a tale? A turn of the card. The whole universe for such a player has labored clanking to his moment which will tell if he is to die at that man’s hand or that man at his. What more certain validation of a man’s worth could there be? This enhancement of the game to its ultimate state admits no argument concerning the notion of fate. The selection of one man over another is a preference absolute and irrevocable and it is a dull man indeed who could reckon so profound a decision without agency or significance either one. In such games as have for their stake the annihilation of the defeated the decisions are quite clear. This man holding this particular arrangement of cards in his hand is thereby removed from existence. This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game and the authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one’s will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. War is the ultimate game because war is at last a forcing of the unity of existence. – Cormac McCarthy

  19. Violence erupts in Barcelona as Nazi-saluting fascists chant ‘Viva Franco’ and clash with police during million-strong pro-union protest demanding Catalan’s deposed president is locked up

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5028507/Sacked-Catalan-leader-remain-president.html

    Heh, I guess I have to stand with Spain, even if it’s pozzed in normal conditions. On the other hand, just look at the chad (catalonian) policeman on the left below. I wavered briefly.

  20. The funny thing is, intermarriage is actually flat or even declining among the youngest age groups, except (annoyingly enough) blacks. I do get the impression that Asian women, for example, are marrying white men much less than they were a decade or two ago, and black women have replaced them as the go-to women for white Gammas.

    Hispanics, who are half-white already, routinely marry whites, usually those that match their own IQ levels. What this means, of course, is that the smarter Hispanics will melt into the white population, leaving their dumber underclass brethren behind.

    The Puerto Rican ethnicity, with its small reservoir of potential new immigrants, is rapidly dissolving away, with the proportion of births to stateside Puerto Rican mothers that report having a Puerto Rican father down into the 30-40% range now. Puerto Ricans are, I imagine, assortatively mating into whichever larger racial group each one resembles: blacker ones with black Americans, whiter ones with white Americans, mixed-race ones with other Hispanics. Thus, a mixed-race ethnic group is returning to the component races from which it came.

    “I can’t speak to Robert De Niro’s psyche and motives except to go by the most superficial of appearances. Paul McCartney and John Lennon, with their apex-male options, also married women whom the ruthless eye of the sexual market, in that league, would have judged harshly.”

    Didn’t you say McCartney and Lennon were Delta and Gamma? I suspect that being a celebrity will definitely make more women available to a beta male, but I’m not sure that they’ll be much more likely to have a successful relationship with attractive women. IOW, the women will think these men are hot, until they actually meet them in person.

    Jim-Bob:
    Black Americans are themselves a mixed race, since they are on average about 20% European. It’s not surprising that half-blacks usually identify as black, and in my opinion, they should. I suppose other mixed-race groups could be put on reservations like the American Indians.

    WynnLloyd:
    This may perhaps be true for Koreans and Japanese. The latter are being race-mixed out of existence in the U.S. as we speak. Maybe Filipinos and Vietnamese too. The Chinese may be too large a group to swallow. As for South Asians… well, I actually see them as the most likely Asian group to be expelled or exterminated, due to their numbers, low intermarriage rates, and their tendency to imitate the worst traits of (((the tribe))). And for the Eurasians, maybe make Hawaii an Asian/half-Asian reservation.

  21. — Didn’t you say McCartney and Lennon were Delta and Gamma?

    Yes, respectively. McCartney did well with his first marriage as goes with Deltas who refrain from overreaching, Lennon was a mess. With De Niro, no idea but a man with the options he presumably had, marrying so… atypically, my gut feeling and personal observation with other such pairings tell me that something’s off with him.

    There aren’t many Alphas on the performer-end of show business. As someone else put it, there is something Lambdaesque about men who succeed as Hollywood actors.

    — Are “Hispanics” even real? It’s ultimately just a US bureaucratic classification.

    It is a bureaucratic classification. It arguably makes sense to classify pureblooded Whites of Iberian descent as “Hispanic” because their linguistic and cultural background is different than that of Protestant, Anglo-stock core American people and because they are regionally too numerous to be absorbed, such as White Cubans in south Florida. I’m not familiar with Texas and S.W. states and their legacy White (Spaniard roots) Mexicans.

    With South Americans of Italian, German or, say, Czech ancestry, the Hispanic label is more tenuous.

    Misleadingly, “Hispanic” has come to refer to all people whose ancestry lies anywhere along the Indigeneous – Iberian ancestry continuum, now typically represented by short, stocky 90-IQ Central Americans.

  22. Perhaps we can put it like this: While the name Hispanic suggests racial origins, it’s mainly a geographical term rather than a genetic/racial one, which can be (cough) highly misleading in multicultural countries.

    Or a bit more sharply, it’s like being told “the terrorist was born in Britain” (his name is Khalid Masood).

  23. Well it can’t but be said that De Niro went all the way with her.

    De Niro is “twisted.”

    His trademark twisted face is what made him (as an actor) so compelling, as for one a believable sadist.

    That trademark twisted face is totally believably associated with 1) sadism and 2) other things like low intelligence and shall-we-say strange mating predilections.

    De Niro and his famous twisted “acting” face is an example of why sadism is repellant and stupid, and always to be avoided.

  24. I say that De Niro’s trademark twisted sadistic face is repellant, but nb4 obviously there is something compelling and attractive about it, which is why is he such a famous actor.

    In popular consensus, De Niro and along with Pacino, are almost certainly the two greatest actors of the modern whatever Hollywood era, before it went superhero and now just recently imploded — with first place being given to Pacino for his one role.

    Which one role was as a definitively racially vague Hispanic.

  25. “Hispanic” and “black” are terms that are devoid of meaning in places where those folks actually originate, since it gives no ability to cry for gimmedats from the white man in those places.

    Sailer is dead right when he talks about how Africans (both new and old) in the USA just looooove to be “black”, in any places devoid of whites they’re just incompetent, strife-filled Africans that no one cares about at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder.

  26. George Lucas also caught jungle fever late in life, married a black woman for his 2nd marriage and now has a mulatto baby girl.

    Maybe that’s what caused him to write that “Red Tails” movie because we know that the Luftwaffe could never be a match for a squad of black pilots.

  27. — Maybe that’s what caused him to write that “Red Tails”

    The thing on male character… If you marry a black or brown woman, and rather than having a war-bride dynamic in your marriage in which you neg her on her background you instead “go native” and submit to her culture, something is off about you.

  28. “There aren’t many Alphas on the performer-end of show business. As someone else put it, there is something Lambdaesque about men who succeed as Hollywood actors.”

    Actors typically need a good amount of empathy and introspection to play a character well, which doesn’t seem to lend itself to an alpha personality. Same thing with writers, poets, songwriters, etc., but there’s always exceptions. With acting, the place for alphas seems to be the leading man type of actor, as opposed to character actors.

  29. The thing on male character… If you marry a black or brown woman, and rather than having a war-bride dynamic in your marriage in which you neg her on her background you instead “go native” and submit to her culture, something is off about you.

    IMHO, I don’t think the type of white men who marry black women would ever be doing anything of the sort.

    First of all, white men above Delta overwhelmingly get involved with white women. I imagine it’s one crucial reason white MGTOWs complain about white western women so much: the women are getting more high-value attention.

    Secondly, I’ve noticed that white Gammas can often outkick their coverage significantly by diving into the tar pits. For whatever reason, black women, including slender ones with nice bodies, are far more tolerant of Gamma behavior than any other race’s women, including Hispanics and Asians. In addition, black women are more aggressive, mitigating the need for the man to make the first move. I do get the impression that black women are huge cheating risks, but I guess if the Gamma is getting laid, he doesn’t care.

    As to why this trend is taking place, it may have to do with black men acting far more effeminate and libtard (and, well, Gamma) than they did in the ’90s. But yeah, if I had to guess, I’d say a majority of white men with black women are Gammas.

    Hispanic basically means “person with Spanish sounding name.” Which makes is very easy for white progressive race hucksters to claim the label and all the benefits that accrue to it.

    The “Hispanic” term came about because the Census Bureau found the term “mestizo”, or even something like “Latin American mixed race”, too confusing. So they had to invent this orthogonal “ethnic” term. And it means anyone from a country that has Spanish as an official language, so Spaniards are Hispanic, but Brazilians aren’t. (Filipinos aren’t either, in case you’re wondering.)

  30. During my last job I worked in a massive office complex with convention center that held a very big annual “anime” conference. I saw a not small number of black girls there and every single one was with her nerdy white boyfriend.

    Those people are really weird, even worse than the DragonCon crowd. But weird in a harmless,
    “forever childhood” kinda way.

    This also matches the trend of the most educated blacks (the few with IQ significantly above 100) marrying outside of their race a HUGE portion of the time. (that includes our resident midwestern music critic)

  31. One cannot even begin to grasp the “black” male/female dynamic in MRKA outside its completely one-sided exploitational relationship to “white supremacy.”

    The white pill is a real race realist who understands that “black” males have been the beneficiaries of hundreds of years of “tolerance” for the sexual defilement of the white female ALL in the name of the “struggle” and with unmitigated APPROVAL of collective “black” female.

    This “symbiotic regression” is no longer tenable for not only is the “struggle” a grand delusion, but nary a remnant of genuine white (S)upremacy actually exists where “black lies gather.”

  32. (that includes our resident midwestern music critic)

    Ha ha ha. FWIW, my ex graduated runner-up valedictorian in her high-school senior class and no. 8 at her elite Midwestern liberal arts college upon earning her B.A.

    Nerd power! It makes the world go ’round!

  33. Nerd power! It makes the world go ’round! — Nikcrit

    Jew meme, “Nerd makes the r/evolution go down.”

  34. Are “Hispanics” even real? It’s ultimately just a US bureaucratic classification.

    PA | October 30, 2017 at 9:30 am”

    Originally, the term ‘Hispanic” meant one with genetic and/or cultural heritage that traced to somewhere on the Iberian peninsula —– a geographic position that also characterized ‘white’ Spaniards, or the very people that many consciously do not include in description of ‘Hispanics.”

    So, yeah, I too think the term is politically and culturally self-serving much of the time

  35. In short, “Hispanic” is another word that the masses use fallaciously and the small minority of nerds will not use with precision.

    “Racism” is another word falling under this exact corruption.

  36. held a very big annual “anime” conference. I saw a not small number of black girls there and every single one was with her nerdy white boyfriend.

    Those people are really weird, even worse than the DragonCon crowd. But weird in a harmless, “forever childhood” kinda way.

    @Camlost
    “Anime” conferences… erm, yeah… those white Omegas who do have functioning sex drives would be if anything more likely to go Kip/LaFawnduh than the Gammas.

    Blacks of either sex will screw just about anything, it seems.

  37. “The white pill is a real race realist who understands that “black” males have been the beneficiaries of hundreds of years of “tolerance” for the sexual defilement of the white female ALL in the name of the “struggle” “

    Hundreds of years? Seriously? “Hundreds” suggest the existence of such b-w relations taking place in the antebellum south.

    I didn’t know that p.c. had that much historical pull.

  38. Nikcrit…

    An enemy (dat cheatin’ ass nigga) of my enemy (dem white bitches) is my friend (my black boo).

  39. Originally, the term ‘Hispanic” meant one with genetic and/or cultural heritage that traced to somewhere on the Iberian peninsula

    That’s definitely right – “Hispana” was the Roman name for their provinces on the Iberian peninsula. The Hispani and Iberians were probably related tribes that were actually Celtic in origin.

    The browner hue of many Spaniards surely came from the genetic influx commensurate with 400 years of Muslim presence in Spain (especially Andalusia) before they were driven out from their last foothold by Ferdinand & Isabella – around the time of Christopher Columbus.

    And this little trouble they are currently having in Spain is eye-opening. I am wondering why the NY Times and other superliberal outlets aren’t calling the central government’s crackdown on Catalan separatism a “FASCIST” maneuver as that is exactly what it is – following in the footsteps of the Nazi-aligned Francisco Franco, who suppressed Catalan separatism as he would tolerate NO dissension in his corporate nation.

    (of course liberals don’t really, actually know what the term “fascism” means)

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