Elk’s Aphorisms

Suburban_elk’s observant eye, the desire to follow a thought wherever it may lead, and his dark wit make blogging awesome. These aren’t even a best-of; they are fragments of longer comments that he wrote within the same week or two, which I made into memes here.

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38 thoughts on “Elk’s Aphorisms

  1. The whole “no coincidence” actually meaning co-incidental, is an idea from Carl Jung and his thoughts on Synchronicity.

    He was saying that we stepped away from seeing Synchronicity in Life, and that stepping away was everything. It was a stepping away from meaning. It was losing touch with Faith and old time religion.

    And so we go around insisting that things are “no coincidence” and proclaiming that things aren’t connected to each other; when in fact why are connected to each other; they are co-incidental. It is the connection between things that gives them meaning, and which connections we either see and recognize and appreciate, or don’t.

    It sounds a bit sappy, but the use of the phrase “no coincidence” has come to mean exactly as described above.

    And now early in the morning, it is no coincidence that i can’t think of any examples to illustrate the point.

  2. The other takeaway that i would repeat, is that for us to have traction, we want to emphasize our love for the animals and the environment and the planet.

    And to be the ones leading that charge: Now we live on the whole planet, and are we going to manage ourselves long-term, or not?

    Who is leading that charge now?

    Environmentalism was a pop fad about 20 years ago, and it never really went away, but it got taken over by the Left. And they use it cynically as hell.

    Anyone can see that Inifinity Africans is not good for the Environment. Oh Morning is me, Oh Clown World Woes!

  3. The other theme of those aphorisms, is the lasting trauma of genital mutilation, which reflects in the face.

    It is yet another topic about which, what can one say. It’s a bad thing, and don’t do it. And further, discourage it however possible.

    Certainly the character of White American men has been effected, and affected both. Some youtube guy, described about being in Germany in the military sometime last century, about how in the evenings after many drinks, the Germans would sing and the Americans would fight, and he got to wondering why that was.

    I checked out the name of the “doctor” on my birth certificate, and thought about paying him a visit. Chances are that he is alive and under the age of 90, are maybe one in a hundred.

    So what is the redress, for that wrong?

    The whole artifice of the medical fraud and the insurance racket that supports it, would be destroyed by righteous legal claims from the men wronged by their malpractice.

    Ten million dollars per ruined penis — might be a reasonable settlement.

    You can’t put a price on it, but ten million dollars seems a good compromise.

    The medical and insurance industry is fraught with rent-seekers and jews and swindlers and otherwise useless people who need getting rid of — so this issue is another that might be used to good effect.

  4. Great Post!

    Elk’s thoughts are always a highlight of visiting here.

    One of the most memorable examples was his dissection of Beyonce and her dance moves. Every time I was exposed to her afterwards, it was filtered through Elk’s analysis.

    I would happily purchase a tome that compiled his best comments.

  5. PS – Elk’s prose construction is quite distinctive, but if I had to draw comparisons, I would say it creates an image in my mind of David Foster Wallace brawling with Ezra Pound in someone’s backyard Saturday dinner party while knocking over half empty bottles of wine and whiskey and ashtrays and plates of food…

    “When I am dead, I hope it may be said, ‘His sins were scarlet, but his books were read.”
    ― Hilaire Belloc

  6. Elk is good PA, but has a ways to go.

    The White Sharia thing. It is involves violent acts, which of course most WNs today “don’t condone.”

    How do you think men, better yet white men, impose their will on other people? Speech? Laws? Are white women today willingly going to put on the pink burka?

    Most WNs today don’t have the will to do what is necessary to win. They want to be goodGoys and go to heaven.

    You to recognize, that until WNs are feared, as SWAT, the FBI, ATF and the military are feared, we have nothing. All power comes from force.

    Can you comprehend – the balls and WILL it could take – for a white Christian to behead a Muzz or jew and post the video, as ISIS does?

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  8. White Sharia is about all white men, not some.

    Individually, yes, with game one can get women to wear the burka. But we have to help the “beta” white men keep their wives in line too. Marriage is a social institution, so it needs a sort of collective enforcement.

    In a way, WN is like a white male union. Everyone has to pay dues to everyone’s common good.

  9. If enough of the right men, even if they are not available to all women, and their wives/concubines set a modesty trend, almost all the women will fall in line.

    Fashion is just soft fascism. Set the trend and you barely need to force the adoption and purchase. Everyone will fall in line, beta’s women included.

    Ok, almost everyone. But those independent women usually lived alone and were considered wicked witches, shunned and punished or burned when they became too much trouble.

  10. turning green politics into a marxist lefty preoccupation is one of the ways neoliberalisn makes conservatives useful idiots

  11. — The other takeaway that i would repeat, is that for us to have traction, we want to emphasize our love for the animals and the environment and the planet (Suburban_elk)

    Just reminded myself to re-read The Rime of the Ancient Mariner, last read in 1989.

    — Environmentalism was a pop fad about 20 years ago, and it never really went away, but it got taken over by the Left (Elk)

    There were these woods along this road I always enjoyed driving down. Now there are paper-frame townhouses. I fantasize about [self-redacted] land developer scum.

    — One of the most memorable examples was his dissection of Beyonce and her dance moves. (Lothar of the Hill People)

    I saw that a Feb. 14, 2016 post, in which I quoted Elk’s earlier description of Beyonce’s Superbowl performance, got some hits after you posted that. The quoted bit:

    Beyonce came over as UGLY evil thing who struts around her vagina – literally her vagina and big butt lead the way and she follows it around, and she has that evil hard demonic face.

    — These can be called Elkorisms (mendo)

    I like that!

    — Elk is good PA, but has a ways to go. (Ryu)

    Nobody is perfect. Where do you have ways to go?

    — Fashion is just soft fascism. (Midnight Avenue J)

    That is a good observation. An aphorism I’ll henceforth keep in mind.

    — turning green politics into a marxist lefty preoccupation is one of the ways neoliberalisn makes conservatives useful idiots (Muerte aka Luciano)

    Neoconned. “Pave the Bay!” cried the stalwart conservativasses ’round here during the Reagan era.

  12. I nominate Elk for poet laureate of the alt right, his sublime understanding of nature should be a guide for the entire alt-right. The alt-right needs some sort of attitude towards nature that can be a counter to the elitist bullshi*t “climate” concern – for idiotic liberal city folk who are too effete to drive 3 miles outside a metro area or to even pump their own gas. Elk’s musings on the natural world are one part Aristotle, one part Thoreau and one part Tolkien.

    Aristotle = because (as a grower) he clearly learns the stages and tendencies of growing things with a keen and admiring eye, just as the ancient Greeks learned enough to catalog the entire animal and plant kingdom merely through careful observations.

    Thoreau = more than anyone I’ve seen in the A-R, Elk understands the (now decaying) spiritual connection the European has with land, space, nature, growing things. And what happens when that bond is broken.

    Tolkien = many people don’t know it but Tolkien was a staunch, highly conservative Catholic who detested the inhuman effects of industrialization and urbanization. In addition, his writings are filled loving descriptions of landforms, botany, etc. that only a true nature lover will find interesting. And in one of the last chapters in his trilogy (“The Scouring of the Shire”) he provides an allegorical takedown of the harmful effects of overdevelopment, symbolized by the destruction of the Great Tree.

  13. Elk’s one-liners are really good – he should focus more on snappy aphorisms and less on depressive blackpill vignettes.

    I have no idea where this fixation on making white women wear burkas comes from. I don’t think feminism and its effects on women are separable from modern post-industrial society, and if you want to roll back feminism, you have to roll back almost all of the modern world. I’m sure Elk would agree on that.

    (Case in point: Saudi Arabia recently allowing female clergy and letting women drive. It’s still a woman-hating Sharia Law culture, but in the Saudi context, those are giant steps towards feminism. But with the light-speed urbanization and digitalization of the country, feminism was inevitable)

  14. focus more on snappy aphorisms and less on depressive blackpill vignettes.

    Hey that is a snappy aphorism in itself.

    As far as focusing on the blackpill vignettes, that reflects my age and might be a holdover of what is usually called WN 2.0: pre Trump and around ten years ago. Amren, VNN, Majority Rights.

    Back then, arguing with Normies, i often felt it necessary to make the point that all these concerns were not in the abstract: that they were in fact based on real life experience and hard to avoid. Back then, normie antagonists were sort of able to say that such experience came from a lower social milieu, and they (again, sort of) had a point.

    Nowadays such insistence on the blackpill reality of real life reality, might seem redundant and unnecessary. In any case, i am often amazed at the reality of it. For instance, in the previously mentioned experience at the cafe. How “typical” is it? Because it’s narrative elements — which i will not repeat — are so stark in their race real implications.

  15. White Sharia is about all white men, not some.

    Individually, yes, with game one can get women to wear the burka. But we have to help the “beta” white men keep their wives in line too. Marriage is a social institution, so it needs a sort of collective enforcement.

    In a way, WN is like a white male union. Everyone has to pay dues to everyone’s common good.

    That is well expressed.

    I was going to not reply to Ryu in this thread, and his (tedious) jibe that I had “a ways to go.” It’s like, thanks Confucius, how very profound.

    It’s like, man, we’re on a journey. And this whole time we’ve been sitting on our asses — has been part of it!

    Deep, man. Deep.

    But my reply to Ryu, apart from the personal ribbing — now known among ARolytes aspiring away from autism as “bantz” — is that if I have a ways to go, well then where are we going?

    First of all; seriously, where are we going?

    That is the question that the AR can’t seem to answer, and for which MPC calls to account as their chief criticism. And which is fair. Where are we going?

    And secondly, whatever it is you have in mind, you have to sell it.

    How is Ryu’s salesmanship? B- on a good day; or perhaps that is too charitable by far.

  16. First of all; seriously, where are we going?

    That is the question that the AR can’t seem to answer, and for which MPC calls to account as their chief criticism. And which is fair. Where are we going?

    I don’t know of anyone’s answer to question. Certainly i have seen nothing from MPC that gets to it. Their chief concern is about scale, and implied is that we have to get away from that.

    Which would be nice, but in all likelihood we cannot move away from the current scale of things. Because now that the world is known, how can it be unknown.

    How can the scale of our lives be effectively reduced? Is it possible to impose limits on the organizational scale that human societies will assume, when the advantages of larger scale organization seem to require it.

    The problems of scale have been known since Confucius. Literally — he wrote about that, and that was his main theme. I kid you not, and am no scholar, but Durante, in his summary of Chinese civilization, says exactly that. So the problems of scale are exactly the most well known in the world.

    So scale back your self-congrats there, Pman; it’s not a new idea.

    We have to approach our problems by way of Aesthetics.

  17. “Ryu, twice this week you’ve posted vaguely positively about groups, does your negative view of them with human failings and informants still stand?”

    For now, Ulrich, I can’t see a group holding together inside the USA.

    The police state is too tight. Find one “serious” group within this country that hasn’t been infiltrated, or someone flipped in the last 30 years.

    There is the NSU or National Socialist Union in Germany, 1998-2013. But they got caught too.

    WN still exists because we use the cellular system. There is no grand leader, no big groups they can roll up.

    Eventually though, we will need to form gangs again. That will be a hard step, to go from nothing to something. We will have to wait for a big disruption, or a “collapse” so the system is distracted.

    But I salute White Sharia or WN-communism. If I was in prison or had little to lose, I’d work in a group.

  18. The attempt?
    Two scale desire.
    Raise ire.
    Birth liars!
    Burn on funeral pyre…
    Where
    There
    Are jokes…
    There is fire.
    To create
    And to sire.
    Admire a plant
    Your child who’s mired
    In self-annihilating soil
    Toiling for life
    In error so vile
    Father puts his mind on (P)erfection…
    Advance to beguile…

  19. I’m not selling anything. If I have to “sell” it, then things won’t end well.

    “We” aren’t going anywhere. WN is not a mass movement. It is an individual one. WN grows and shrinks according to the development of its strongest members.

    You have to go from the “why” of WN and these abstractions to “how.” And what can you do now, here, today? Just you.

    Compare yourself to Ted Kaczynski, or the monkey-wrenching crews. They have taken environmentalism as far as it can go. And they failed. Today, environmentalism is dead.

    No one will fight for freedom. Even fewer to fight for the environment.

  20. Compare yourself to Ted Kaczynski, or the monkey-wrenching crews. They have taken environmentalism as far as it can go. And they failed. Today, environmentalism is dead.

    Environmentalism fails in that it considers the environment without White people as part of it.

    In that sense, let it die.

    Aesthetics on the other hand, is the cultivation and appreciation of what is beautiful, and includes within it beautiful people and where and how they live.

    Ted Kaczynski for all his brain power, was not a beautiful person. He was not an accomplished aesthetic. He was a wretched hermit. In his defense, they abused him at Harvard, and there is an Atlantic article that goes into that. As i have suggested before, that article is probably a “mistake” in how it revealed the systematic mind-control experiments and abuse at places like Harvard.

    What Ryu talks about and fails to sell, is lone wolf action. And he may be right, that such a thing is not to be sold.

    On the personal, i do not want to inflict pain on other people, even those who deserve it, should be mercifully excused from this life and not with cruel and unusual punishment. Such people would include everyone who participated in the birthing industry in America in the 70s even up to the moms who were nurses of childhood friends.

    Which just goes to show — that my best friends’ moms were nurses in the 70s and yet still what they had done to their own babies — that the worst pain is inflicted carelessly, and that life is tragic.

    You have to go from the “why” of WN and these abstractions to “how.” And what can you do now, here, today? Just you.

    As the second half of my own life proceeds, I ask what can be done without children, and without intimate company, that makes it worthwhile.

  21. James Bowery, the Godfather of the AR, commented as follows on a current CH thread, reproduced here in full:

    Game is not simply applied dominance.

    Game is the art of dominance in an environment where sovereignty — the normative initiation of force —
    does not reside with the individual applying dominance. It goes back to CHLCA about six million years ago, where gang warfare’s nascent eusociality took root in the primate line leading to humans. Cro Magnon started to escape this, shortly after leaving Africa: Replacing hominin intraspecific dominance hierarchy with inter-specific Cro Magnon dominance of coevolved wolf hunting packs, sometime between 15,000 and 40,000 YBP. An individual man could hunt without a hunting group of other humans.

    Everyman an alpha.

    Backhanding a “shit test” would have been hardly necessary, let alone “game”.

    As civilization arose in the neolithic, periodic invasions of “barbarian pastoralists” provided it with increasingly sophisticated programs of assimilation, culminating with JudeoChristianity’s final victory with the outlawing of Holmganga simultaneous with adoption of JudeoChristianity circa 1000 AD.

    Since then, Euroman has been trying to reacquire “game” so as to be more viable as part of civilization. For a while, St. Paul’s injunctions regarding women were an adequate substitute for “game” but, as we now observe, that is inoperative and is rapidly being replaced by Sharia law’s injunctions regarding women — which is one step from the ultimate pimp game now slicing through Western Civilization like a hot knife through butter.

  22. Bowery’s presentation and writing style is difficult. He often doesn’t simplify his ideas enough, for us lay people simpletons.

    However i have found his ideas intriguing and worth the time. The above quoted comment is from the current CH thread, and it is in context, but in itself it contains ideas that want elaborating.

    The Heart of our problem is the White Paradox. The very thing that makes us so special is our individuality, or our sovereignty, which Bowery suggests is the result of our co-evolving with our best friends the dogs, as sovereign everyman alphas.

    And then as such, being overwhelmed by civilization and something to do with its eusocial trappings.

    Following from these premises, it would seem we need social organization that allows for sovereignty.

    Such organization — up to now — loses against the scale of civilization. The White Paradox.

  23. White people, and specifically the Great Race aka the Saxon, flourished when he had the frontier to expand into and “conquer”.

    There is no longer a frontier and never will there be again.

    Even is Space is a possibility, it is not a frontier in which we can evolve as earthly organisms, which is what we “want” to do.

    We want to evolve as Earthly organisms because that is what feels good. Living in space will not feel good. It will be dull and dreary as a highway to nowhere.

    And the people there, will not be vigorous specimens. The vitality it takes to sustain exploration comes from the habitat in which it evolved.

    And if in some futuristic sense we can evolve into the universe, it will not be as what we know as White people, it would be as grey people with big heads and sickly presentation, and they would not be happy or celebrate life in a sense that we want or enjoy.

    Which is why the Space memes are all so fucking gay that the internet and the people who live there should just die already.

  24. What we have to do, is evolve into our mythology.

    I have said this before, and at the risk of being a pompous esotericist which is oh-so-easy to be on the internet, will say it again — the esoteric secret of mythology (which does not seem so esoteric come to think of it) is that it is what we “want” to evolve toward and into. It’s not the past, it’s the future.

    It is the dream that inspires.

    The future that I am selling is not a miserable wretched failed and broken hermit in the woods, it is a Maxfield Parish painting, where we lounge on the stonework and in the light and dominate our women with our intact-brand baby makers.

  25. Elk, as a matter of convention, the WN of 10 years ago are generally referred to as “WN 1.0”.

    The CH commentary quoted above is interesting regarding domestication of canines, in a reference some of our commentators will recognize, it does bear a resemblance to parts of Neanderthal theory, both Tex Arcane and RDOS strains.

    I feel that it is unfair to demand, as the above cited MPC does, that a challenger ideology (AR/WN) fully litigate it’s intellectual case in public, under the current circumstances. As a practical matter, at least part of the public factionalism of the last 3 months comes from, in part, differing views of the current circumstances.

  26. Nice subthread on the current CH on the ritual genital mutilation of White newborn baby boys, started with these memes and aphorisms. It is good to see the subject broached there.

    Greg Eliot and another commenter throw in comments that would seem to defend the practice of mutilating the genitals of White children.

    Supporting in any way or extent the mutilation of your own children and for that matter any other, is not right it is wrong.

  27. That comment subthread went downhill.

    I am amazed that Greg Eliot is taken seriously, at all, ever again.

    Anyone who can’t admit they are wrong about that issue, is literally retarded. Their development as a has human beings has been circumcised. (The other meaning of that word is in a geometric sense — meaning to constrict around something with a circle.)

    I can’t comment on CH because of moderation, but I would say to Greg, that it’s not your penis we are arguing for about or against. It’s the genitals of defenseless children.

    And I saw that Eliot’s response to that line of argumentation, was to compare it to Huffpo style of arguing, as in making excuses for people being soft, and to suggest that those babies need to be toughened up. It is absurd. By that reasoning, beating them up when they are six months old, ought might be useful on em too.

    The thing about that issue, is that there is a right and a wrong.

    It is either wrong to mutilate babies, or not.

    I don’t see how anyone can respect or take seriously, any commenter blogger or whoever, who will not concede that circumcision is mutilation and that it is wrong.

    It meets every dictionary and medical definition. And common sense. Greg, hang in your hat. No one with a half a brain, will ever forget this. You have consigned yourself to the realm of useless senility.

  28. The other thing about that subthread, that was missing, is the origins and meaning of the ritual. One comment near the beginning got on to that subject, what with throwing babies in the fire; or instead cutting up their dicks.

    The origins and meaning of that ritual have nothing to do with medical reasons. The proffered medical reasons do not stand up to reason, at all, and they never have.

    The purpose of the ritual is ownership and control.

    “A skinned dick is the mark of a slave” — is the way i have always summed it up.

    And a person can look back at the historical record and do some research. There is a famous jew doctor from i think the 8th century or thereabouts who writes at length about the ritual’s place and purpose, and Durante cites him as the authority. That physician says that the ritual’s purpose is to diminish sexual pleasure and make men and by extension everyone else, more subject to control.

    But the purpose of such a ritual is not reduced to one person’s statements and opinions. Who gets to say, what something means?

    The purpose of such a ritual has to be considered by what is its effect on the people who do it, and the societies that do it. What is its effect, then?

    To some extent, its effect is to make the victim want to inflict it on others. To get other people to join the club. The cult.

  29. One of the most intelligent comments (from youtube) about people’s contrary perspectives on the topic of circumcision, was that, yes people can still have a enjoy sex with a skinned dick, and have babies, but the point of Life is not to experiment and find out with what diminished capacities Life can be lived and maintained.

    The point of Life is that it is to be experienced in its fullest degree as possible. That is what everyone wants from life, is a vivid experience.

    The original commenter summed it up more eloquently, and in the context it was perfect.

    But in response to the argument, that “well I have no problems and neither do my sons.”

    Well I can shoot a load into a willing vagina as well, but am conscious during the experience of sex, that something is missing. For me it makes it awkward.

    I don’t think that someone who is ok with their genitals having been tossed in the trash, is a better man than someone who is upset by it.

    We all make do, but isn it not common sense that a better man will want his whole penis with which to do his thing and experience life.

  30. “For me it makes it awkward.”

    I am not trying to TMI anyone’s ass, but this is the whole point that I can’t quite get to.

    But i don’t mean awkward in the moment of sex itself, i mean awkward in the mature sense of a long-term relation with a woman.

    Hey, sorry babe, i wish i could really get into sex and dominate you for real instead of playacting. Instead i just have slap you around some for that effect, do you mind?

    This is melodramatic, but like i said, the point is hard to make and acknowledge. It’s hard to respect a man without a complete set.

    What kind of people do that to their own children, what kind of people let that be done?

  31. “What kind of people do that to their own children, what kind of people let that be done?”

    Which gets to the whole point of the ritual: its effect on the people and society upon which it is inflicted.

    My People were made into slaves, and i despise them for it.

  32. Life is an exploratory process. Evolution is an exploratory process.

    That evolution of life reflects in our physical form with all its evolved function and feeling.

    There is a lot of hokum about circumcision removing 10 per cent, or perhaps half of the nerve endings on the penis. Those are radically softball estimates. Current valid studies put the loss of feeling up to 90 per cent, and the number of nerves endings lost at up to 140 thousand. For comparison, the clitoris nerve count is 9 thousand.

    Those quantities are a pale imitation of the reality. But in any case, quantifying nerve endings is not easy to do, and is not the point.

    Anyone arguing for reducing his offspring’s penis, would seem to be out of place in a community that is about men taking charge of their lives and their society.

    The point that I have a hard time getting at, is that the Mystery of Life in its entirety, is what we want to evolve around. We don’t want to evolve around and in spite of, semitic strictures.

    However, some people do insist that our society include semitic constraints — biological, spiritual, and physical semitic constraints.

    Are people free to do with their babies, as they wish?

    An interesting comparison for this debate is the argument well made by Peter Hitchens about England and the immigration there. He states that England is not ours to change and modify. It is only ours to pass on. Indeed we are but stewards.

    ******************

    I note that that CH subthread has passed without comment from the host there.

  33. — I note that that CH subthread has passed without comment from the host there.

    I have read every comment here (all 20,306 to date) but don’t always have something apt to say. Greg Eliot is a stubborn old mule but a good guy. I give his blind spots, such as 9/11 credulity and circumcision, a pass because because he is dead-on right and eloquently so on other things. It’s obvious to anyone who followed that dick-cutting subthread that Greg got his ass handed to him.

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