Generations

PA, whom is your article intended to address? Boomer men, like me, who are already reading your blog regularly? Is your objective to incite yet more hatred among younger White men who already hate Boomers? Do articles like yours, which seem to be increasing in popularity in WN circles, serve to awaken and unify Whites?

It’s intended to address anyone who wants to read it. That’s not a glib reply, it’s my attitude toward blogging. By the aggregate reader data available to me, 80% of this blog’s visitors are in the United States and by my hunch, readership overlaps with that of the blogs listed on my sidebar. In other words, a broad age-range of mostly Alt-Right aligned Whites worldwide.

It is not my intention to incite hatred toward anyone who is one of us. My parents are Boomers (technically late Silents, born during WWII and raised in a different country but as I discovered, these generational “horoscopes” know no borders). They are good people who raised me well, both are highly intelligent and have been anti-Communist all their lives. Upon arriving in the U.S., they recognized American liberalism as an extension of the same Communism they had left behind, except more insidious and more mind-enslaving.

One of my early-teenage educational moments was during the 1984 election campaign. I parroted something I must have heard at school: “Mondale is for the people and Reagan is for big business.” My dad told me that to decide whom to support in politics, you have to write out an honest list of each side’s pluses and minuses. We did that together, and from then on I understood the Democrats to be the party of centralized bureaucracy (socialism) and Republicans, prior to the neocon infiltration, as an imperfect champion of decentralization (liberty). We had Ronald Reagan’s portrait hanging in the kitchen of our first home in America. My parents supported Donald Trump from the moment he declared his candidacy.

Yet every generation has its faults. Highly-educated, faithful Roman Catholic, upper-middle-class Polish emigrants are not immune to adopting their host-country’s quirks. If there is one way to nail the Baby Boomers down as a generation, I’d put it as follows: they believe that the world begins and ends with them.

No GenX’er or Millennial in this universe will cry “Stop saying that about us!” when criticized on their collective shortcomings. Yet every Boomer-thread at Vox Popoli generates squeals of “NABALT” on behalf of an entire cohort. You can see how that invites scorn.

That characterization above, “Boomers believe that the world begins and ends with them,” applies to selfish retirees who don’t give one squirt of piss about their grandchildren. That’s a common accusation made by the younger generations; for starters, see the comments under the above-linked post. It also applies to Boomers who have sacrificed a lot for their kids and are loving, devoted grandparents. Boomers’ virtues (they are sociable and civic-minded, for one) as well as their aggregate faults, are a function of their inability or unwillingness to understand that the conditions of life today are not the same ones that they had inherited.

This isn’t an incitement to hatred. It’s a criticism. When I point out someone’s error, it’s up to him to consider the validity of my judgment and if deemed valid, to correct his behavior.


The Secular Horoscope

I am left to wonder whether Boomers have some irreparable genetic or character flaw that no other generation of White men has.

Rhetorical, I know, but there is something unique about every generation. In his autobiography’s opening chapter, Arthur Koestler mused about the “secular horoscope,” meaning that the era of one’s birth determines a person’s life-trajectory and fundamental worldview. Let’s see how each generation’s accident of birth has shaped them.


Baby Boomers

Boomers were imprinted with an optimism that never faded, in spite how much the world has changed since their youthful years. Their psychological substrate is a bright, sunny summer day in 1962. They always lived, and they will die, in that one year. In their eyes, the rest of us fall short of their esteem due to our failure to capitalize on the social and material cornucopia that they had been born into.

I can judge your generation as a whole. My judgment is that — as a whole — you are a selfish people who don’t give a damn about your posterity. But I can’t judge you as an individual Boomer man because I don’t know you. That’s your children’s and grandchildren’s prerogative. If you’re doing allright by them, you’re OK. Greginaurora commented about his Greatest Generation grandparents: 

I remember my grandparents. I spent a weekend with them once a month. Their house was small but their hearts were big. My own children wouldn’t understand that. Grandparents who helped raise them?

If “big heart” is something your grandkids will also one day say about you, then you have no reason to be upset with what I wrote because my critique of your generation does not apply to you personally in the one area over which you have full control: your own conduct.

The Baby Boomer generation in a snapshot:

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Generation X

For us GenX’ers, it’s always about the lost paradise of 1985. For me, that year conjures up community parties in my White working-class neighborhood. Good-natured men organizing youth kickball games and lawn-cutting co-ops. When people dream about peace, that’s what they imagine. We saw it for a moment and it was gone.

As we reached legal drinking age, U.S. federal government murdered Vicki and Sammy Weaver and then incinerated 22 kids at Waco. Only one man did something about it. We are a failed generation, robbed of its future, and this is why we belatedly created the Alt-Right, and also the reason why we are better parents than our own parents were. We saw evil, we flinched, we never forgave ourselves for that.

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Millennials

For this kiked-out generation, it’s always 9/11/2001 and submission to the police-state that the shock-and-awe ushered in. They were kicked in the teeth by the anti-White system, brainwashed in school, and cut down to sub-equality with weaponized niggers and race-replacement immigrants. While Boomers cashed-in and GenX froze up, Millennials embraced Stockholm Syndrome.

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UPDATE – Ikacer adds in the comments:

I’d say that Millennials are the generation of escapism. Stockholm Syndrome is just a subset of that. Our generation was presented with a world that was entirely a lie (and was apparent to us as such), but with no alternative leading to the truth. So as a generation we avoided reality. Many did this by embracing the lie, such as the Stockholm Syndrome group you mentioned. Others escaped into video gaming. Others obsessed over their childhood such as Harry Potter, and many live with their parents.

The strength of conviction of the Millennial progs is not because they truly believe, but is born of their desperate fear of reality. For Millennials, reality is too terrible to face.


Generation Zyklon

Face the sun, young blood. As I concluded in Shots of Wisdom, Part 7:

The Will To Live. Like trees that adjust their angle of growth to stay upright when soil underneath them shifts, so do we create homogeneous micro-habitats in own own lives. Sometimes I am in awe of ordinary people’s effortless securing of clean space, no matter the vector of the new assault. With open eyes you see it everywhere and the wellsprings of life therein. “Children should always be better-off than their parents,” hiss the blind through their perfect fake teeth. Yeah, but what if the very existence of those who follow is a victory dance in its own right?

This longest night is our trial. Some lose their minds and throw themselves into the abyss. Others trust the invisible laws that guide us toward the sun, with or without the forebrain’s consent. It’s not morning yet, whispers the boy who woke up from a nightmare.

For this generation’s sake, no Boomer, Xer, or Millennial should allow himself to become a burden and a drain on resources. In famines, old people voluntarily starve so that toddlers may eat. If you get old and sick, take pain killers. If you are diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, act fast while you still have your faculties… suicide is punished by an eternity in Hell, so rather than offing yourself, go out into the wilderness and when past the point-of-no-return, pray.

With the duality of good and evil, one has an amplifying effect on the other. Goodness and purity catch the merchant’s eye. Evil and corruption set off a holy war to right the wrongs. Today the best among us become better men and women. God’s gifts shouldn’t be taken for granted — that’s the multi-generational lesson we are being taught.

GenZ will be a generation of fighters. Our job is to help fix the world they inherited where we can, to support pro-White statesmen like Orbán and Trump, and to help our activists or at least get out of their way. The White kids and teenagers everywhere are who we live and die for.

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90 thoughts on “Generations

  1. Awesome couple of posts.
    You have summarized this issue perfectly.

    I’m the first to say millennials on the whole are weaklings. It doesn’t bother me for some reason. I don’t understand why it bothers boomers to hear their generation criticized. It’s not like they as an individual are being criticized, which you stated eloquently.

    Gen Z is going to be heroic. My own kids are showing signs of confidence and grit that I never had. I’m very lucky but I think it’s going to be a common set of traits among Gen Z men.
    I think I may do the list activity you and your parents did to teach you about politics.

  2. The map is pretty misleading, as it covers only white male HS students. I’m not sure that the 2016 voting patterns of white males differs all that much. As white males are a minority, I’m not sure this map is particularly reassuring.

  3. Anecdotes are anecdotal, but for what it’s worth my girlfriend teaches at a rural, all white high school and has amusingly noted that the students mock the anti-racism narrative among themselves.

    >what do you have for lunch?
    >pb and j
    >uh excuse me that’s racist

    And the like. Just as they who taught millennials were befuddled when the D.A.R.E. program produced the highest drug use rates since the boomers, the blue hairs will be befuddled by Gen Z.

  4. @David

    The quality of our people is our primary concern. My experience with minorities that seek to feast on white gibs suggests to me that they look at blue hairs and soy men and wonder how it is that we conquered them, and then move to advantage themselves of the weakness they see. Notice the calls for white prog allies to stand silent at all times ever. If they see us as actually hostile they may move to negotiate a partition of our overlapping territory. If not, and war comes, then having a hardy and ethnocentric core of able bodied men ready willing and able to fight is to our benefit.

    Our cause is less undermined by them and (((others))) and more an issue of us being hoisted by our own petard.

  5. @David “As white males are a minority, I’m not sure this map is particularly reassuring.”

    Historically, this represents 100% of future voters. Remind them of that when you’re talking to them. Everyone who’s different votes different, and the country is worse off for it.

    You want fighters? Teach them to see who their natural allies are and are not.

  6. We didn’t flinch.

    We were outnumbered and outgunned by the Boomers and Silents.

    Quantity has a quality of its own. Our demographic numbers could not compete with the previous generation. That’s why the politicians in office are still Boomers, e.g. Feinstein, Pelosi et al.

    Only now as they are retiring and expiring will we slowly gain a voice.

  7. My daughter, 11 Years old, (homeschooled) is the most WOKE person I know. It’s shocking to say the least, I keep her sheltered as well as I can (we do live in the most diverse city in America), but it just bursts forth sometimes. Last night on the TV (her grandmother, a silent, was watching the news) had a commercial on for some UN food relief/vaccination thing running.

    My girl says, in the most sarcastic way possible, “That’s right, send your money to save black kids in another country, and totally forget about the white kids in your own”

    DAMN.

    As a Gen X, I’m shocked (stupid brainwashing), but then my heart swells 3 times bigger, and makes me want to go punch a globalist. To say she gives me hope, would be a understatement of the year.

    If you want to see what a ‘Wolf (K)’ cub looks like, come to my home and meet my guitar playing blue eyed girl.

    Her 13 yr old sister, bless her heart, still shows ‘rabbit’ thinking, but Lord willing will slide K as the years go by (Please God).

  8. WynnLloyd writes “Gen Z is going to be heroic. My own kids are showing signs of confidence and grit that I never had. I’m very lucky but I think it’s going to be a common set of traits among Gen Z men.”

    Reeeactionary states “Anecdotes are anecdotal, but for what it’s worth my girlfriend teaches at a rural, all white high school and has amusingly noted that the students mock the anti-racism narrative among themselves.

    >what do you have for lunch?
    >pb and j
    >uh excuse me that’s racist”

    Both excellent and hopeful examples of how our children can turn out. My middle-school son loves to jokingly accuse me of racism in response to any completely innocuous comment. He is learning to trust his instincts and to dismiss the attempted indoctrination. He sees through the bullshit. I am so proud to see that he is kind to others but not to the point of allowing himself to be abused. He also knows I have his back and that he should simply dismiss demands to publicly flog himself for being a white boy. He reports that one teacher now simply teaches the subject of the class and does not interject leftist snark at every chance. Likely because my son asked her and the school’s principal what Trump’s election had to do with math.

    PA, powerful writeup as always, but this one hit hard, and in a good way. Thank you good sir.

  9. — We didn’t flinch. We were outnumbered and outgunned by the Boomers and Silents.

    Nah man, we flinched. If we’re gonna blame Boomers for screwing the pooch, we have to own up to our part. Tim was also outgunned but he went ahead and acted.

    Many of us thought that Clinton was cool, voted for abortion, banged party girls rather than looking for a good plain-Jane to marry (this was before the obesity epidemic), cohabited in childless LTRs, lived it up during the late-90s tech boom, counted our 401Ks, and stiffed Pat Buchanan in 2000.

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  11. — If you want to see what a ‘Wolf (K)’ cub looks like, come to my home and meet my guitar playing blue eyed girl

    That’s awesome! Love hearing that. I could have posted a White boys+girls GenZ voting map, but opted for boys-only because the solid-red makes a more striking impact. Fact is though, that White girls are not far behind the boys: CA and UT go to Hillary when both sexes hypothetically vote, but otherwise it’s Trump Country:

    http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2017/08/high-school-hypothetical-electoral-maps.html

    (Non-White voting patterns are immaterial in the long run because the future bets against a continued multiracial democracy.)

  12. Thanks man.

    One of the things I’m working towards in building my own business is being able to bring strong able minded men into my girls lives, that I can ‘pre-screen’ for good K traits.

    I have a vision of a grandson(s), walking on the moon…

  13. Great post, PA.

    Let me first say, I’m a boomer. Born in 1961. Loved growing up in my white SoCal suburb – lots of great memories. My parents were Silent Generation, my grandparents were Grapes of Wrath Okies – literally. And every generation before me loved me and my siblings. My grandparents were tow of my heroes, and my parents, however flawed, love me, too. They gave up a LOT for me and my siblings.

    Two things:
    1 – your posts are dead on. I’m not offended by your posts. I see that behavior all the time. I just hope others don’t say that about me. I won’t talk about it, as I believe that you don’t sound your own horns when you do something (Matthew 6:2), but my wife and I don’t act as other Boomers do. But we see it.
    2 – As I’ve said before, I teach high school. I see those Zs everyday, and they fill me with hope. As mentioned earlier, their efforts will indeed be heroic. I hope I’m around to see it. Oh, and the meme wars are effective – I see that every day, too.

  14. I see what you mean man, but those years were pre-red pill for most of us. Being woke pre-internet was rare.

    Sure, some of us did as you say but “flinched” is different than “suckered.” We bought the blue pill not knowing any better.

    As for me, I did find myself the girl next door and now am red-pillin the f*ck out of the offspring Gen Zyklon.

    If they, Gen Z, are to have hope, to be the Thomas Jefferson of their era, we X-ers need to be their Ben Franklin and George Washington.

  15. This just happened in my classroom.

    I was talking to the kids as they were working on their assignment, and I used the word ‘woke’ in a sentence. The kids cracked up. “do you know what that means?” they asked. Of course i do, i replied.

    Then a young blond white kid in a ROTC uniform asked me, do you know about being red-pilled? I was pleasantly stunned. Yes, I said, I’ve been red-pilled for quite a while.

    Other kids asked what that meant. I used the Matrix movie to explain it, then used The Secret Life of Walter Mitty to drive it home. They understood. and they understand.

    I am excited that a student FINALLY asked me about the Red Pill. There’s hope indeed.

  16. SoCalMike, you’re the opposite of everything I fear about today’s public school teachers. Thank you for sharing your experience from the future front. I hope no SJWs cause you grief when they discover a teacher might be slightly to the right of Nancy Pelosi.

  17. It’s good stuff. Have you heard some of the new phrases?

    “Our generation, our future, our last chance”
    “Action. Leadership. Identity.”

  18. “In famines, old people voluntarily starve so that toddlers may eat. If you get old and sick, take pain killers. If you are diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, act fast while you still have your faculties… suicide is punished by an eternity in Hell, so rather than offing yourself, go out into the wilderness and when past the point-of-no-return, pray.”

    That’s not a bad suggestion. Though there may be more creative and, uh, martially useful ways to go out. When a man doesn’t care about waking tomorrow, it vastly increases his options for action. Something along the lines of St. Brevick.

  19. Not familiar with these phrases. Solid.

    It’s great to read all the testimonials above from classroom and one’s own parenting. It is a generational turning.

    PS: that Forrest and Jenny photo, occurred to me that they are standing as though making wedding vows, except instead of a minister, it’s a leftist Jew and a militant black. I wonder if Zemeckis did that on purpose.

    PPS: Heh, I had a very… open-ended definition of “wilderness” in mind

  20. My boomer parents did apologize on behalf of their generation – for Brexit and the election of Trump.

    “For this generation’s sake, no Boomer, Xer, or Millennial should allow himself to become a burden and a drain on resources.”

    My grandmother died last winter after spending more than a decade vegetating in a senior home. We effectively paid millions of dollars to prolong the suffering of a senile woman who didn’t want to live. If the state won’t respect your wishes – do it yourself.

  21. “Nah man, we flinched. If we’re gonna blame Boomers for screwing the pooch, we have to own up to our part. Tim was was also outgunned but he went ahead and acted. Many of us thought that Clinton was cool, voted for abortion, banged party girls rather than looking for a good plain-Jane to marry (this was before the obesity epidemic), cohabited in childless LTRs, lived it up during the late-90s tech boom, counted our 401Ks, and stiffed Pat Buchanan in 2000.”

    In that period, which some now call “1.0”, I would make the arguement that Bill White was able to aim his efforts at both X and the soon to be millenials. Unfortunately the creeping surveillance state was able to keep up and eventally bring him down.

    He was, imo, the best one out there at the time writing about the utter contempt and abuse the elite had for even the loyal middle class (this being before Upper Middle Class was a regular phrase). He also had a quite effective grasp of targeting and the media.

    It’s ironic to read this today, seeing that in many respects, it was the mass acceptance of the Domestic Intel State that doomed thise efforts.

  22. I’d say that Millennials are the generation of escapism. Stockholm Syndrome is just a subset of that.

    Our generation was presented with a world that was entirely a lie (and was apparent to us as such), but with no alternative leading to the truth. So as a generation we avoided reality. Many did this by embracing the lie, such as the Stockholm Syndrome group you mentioned. Others escaped into video gaming. Others obsessed over their childhood such as Harry Potter, and many live with their parents.

    The strength of conviction of the Millennial progs is not because they truly believe, but is born of their desperate fear of reality. For Millennials, reality is too terrible to face.

  23. `No GenX’er or Millennial in this universe will cry “Stop saying that about us!” when criticized on their collective shortcomings. Yet every Boomer-thread at Vox Popoli generates squeals of “NABALT” on behalf of an entire cohort.’

    Yes. And moreover, most of those NABALT Boomers mostly talk about themselves: “I’m a Boomer, and I’m not like that.”

    I notice that when Millennials weigh in on threads criticizing Millennials, they share their observations about their fellow Millennials. I rarely see a Millennial writing an entire response all about himself.

    When Boomers weigh in on threads criticizing Boomers, half the time it’s, “Well, I don’t think I’m like that. Sure, some of my fellows Boomers are selfish and blind, but I think I’ve avoided those pitfalls.”

    As I read them I think, “Did anybody ask about you? No.”

    Boomers in one word: solipsism.

    (Disclosure: If anyone cares, I’m a Gen Xer.)

  24. Addendum to what I just wrote: I wonder if some Boomer here can shed light on whether there was some 60’s/70’s trend in writing or culture to process everything about the world by relating it to oneself. For instance, Madonna seems to think that her song lyrics should all stem from “honest” self-expression; it doesn’t seem to have ever occurred to her to write a song from somebody else’s point of view. (This worked for her when she was young, relatable, and a bit vulnerable; but not at all when she was a hardened, out-of-reach icon ensconced in highly secured international mansions.) Did something happen in 1960-1975 to make this the-political-and-everything-else-is-personal thinking style become the default in Boomer consciousness?

  25. Did something happen in 1960-1975 to make this the-political-and-everything-else-is-personal thinking style become the default in Boomer consciousness?

    The Culture of Narcissism is what happened.

    The book of the same title by Christopher Laatsch, published 1979 and with the subtitle, American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectation.

    That book is a classic, and somehow threads the needle of being palatable to both the woke and the un-woke, or perhaps rather shall we say the half-woke.

    Its central thesis (as i read it ymmv) was that the Narcissism of that period and subsequently, was more or less entirely the result of people being brought up without enough guidance and structure.

    So not knowing where to look for direction, Boomers were somehow convinced that they would look into themselves. Or anyways they were fooled into thinking that looking into themselves would solve their problems of living in the meaningless and structureless environment.

    I am not sure that the book is specifically a treatment of the Boomer generation, though it coincides somewhat with them, i think it is broader than that.

  26. >what do you have for lunch?
    >pb and j
    >uh excuse me that’s racist

    Those jokes are very popular.

    Everything is racist. Because, well, everything IS racist.

    Those jokes can be both ironic and not ironic, and both at the same time, because of the nature of racism.

    And in fact, the ironic and un-ironic nature of racism and those jokes revealing that, is incisive commentary on the nature of that concept.

    How can something be both ironic and un-ironic? Well, racism is good and bad and neutral and all in your head. (And not all those things too, as necessary.)

    Of course smart AR people have known that for awhile, but the fact that those jokes are everywhere now.

  27. Yes…

    Everything is racist…

    Of the (F)ather.

    Anti-racists DEMONIZE their (f)athers.

    And alt-writers deny their “racism” sacrificing The Author on the perpetuating falter of a sick narrative.

  28. From some vantage point, all these gens will be lumped together in one meagre anthropologic footnote. “A brief net era.” Same fate as Atlantis. But any sincere personal victory is a victory for the brighter whole. The wind forgets nothing.

  29. –I left my frankest comment (albeit a freewheeling one with maybe a kind touch of plausible deniability) on my preoccupation with the Vox/Anglin gabp#d*gate ruckus at the Chateau last night but I think the internet ate it even before mod could. But then, that’s what I thought happened to that long quote from the Iliad but then I saw the other day that you had hit the ‘like’ button, so I guess maybe it’ll show up after all.

    wth is going on with VD? Going through the comments today from Popoli, EVERYTHING is “Nazi stormpooper swastika panty” craziness. The whole commentariat (or whatever part of it is showing up–because VD’s asseverations to the contrary, I don’t think I’m the only person who’s backing away) is nothing but “Nazis are the true socialists! Nazis are the true SJWs!” It’s like a f**king McCarthyite anti-“Nazi” witch hunt, it’s madness!

    I’ve been obsessing over the VD question ever since the Snidely “struggle session”. Today I worked my way back into kindlier thoughts about our brilliant friend, but all the same I feel like something has gone terribly amiss. Some of this is definitely understandable under his stress, but the precise nature of his reaction, the publicity of it, plus the very strange podcast debate with Anglin, in which I do not think Anglin came off too badly either intellectually or personally, have disturbed me.

    The conclusion of that broadcast has become mythic: after basically calling each other total bullshit artists, a silence falls as over a nuclear wastescape. Then, astonishingly, it turns out the moderator has literally left the room, and VD and AA start talking to each other with a seeming friendliness utterly at odds with the icy antipathy that’s gone immediately before. If VD sincerely believes AA is a Fed plant or otherwise an agent of evil, it is astonishing bad judgment for him to say the things he said there. Otoh, if AA is sincere, however misguided in other respects, then this continued jihad against him just seems incredible. VD’s “burn the world down” moneyquote does not sound nearly as Captain Ahab-esque in audio context as it does quoted out of it, but still– is he going to burn gab down just so he can thrash a few nickles out of the pockets of some seventeen year-old “ironic” shitposter cosplayers? In full seriousness, are the Feds really going to descend on him and drag his kid(s?) away because he, as a public figure, had this word tossed at him by anonybots? And again, if he sincerely believed Anglin was IN ANY WAY responsible for this, then why did he indulge in that conversation and admit he’s a “hypocrite”, that he may be hoisted on his own petard for telling people to use the word against those who call you racist {NB: and I’m still screaming, “But I AM a racist, VD!” What is he thinking, “Dems r the real raciss” now?]. Anglin–and I never read the guy, I have no firsthand exposure to him, whereas a ton with VD’s writing– was practically avuncular toward VD in those last minutes; and whether it was weakness on VD’s part that he regrets or whatever, in those minutes VD accepted it, almost like a penitent with his confessor. Which makes this continued “purge” of the Alt-Right VD is waging, a movement which VD has long claimed has no leader, and this intense hatred toward Anglin and everyone who follows him, all the more– . . . .

  30. –with this OT rant (though I really do think some kind of quasi-old age thing must be a part of it: VD is starting to act suspiciously like he ‘doesn’t know how the internet works’– and his tight verbal acuity notwithstanding, I’ve long thought most of the memes he parades at VP like they’re awesome winners are visually lame and generally unimpressive) I’ll add: I plowed through all the comments at the youtube page for the debate, as well as Hunter Wallace (?)s “review”, and while a good number of the AA supporters can be somewhat poopyheaded themselves, it seems clear that many vfm’s are pretty pathetic too.

    Don’t get me started on the Plato thing. I’ve known that about VD for a long time and it’s unforgiveable. Some of the “””Nazis””” understand that too, apparently.

    Someone posing at least as an impartial observer made a complimentary remark about “all the wit and original information I read in the comments at Vox Popoli”. Well, that might’ve been true a year ago, but this weekend? They’re like a bunch of two year olds flinging shit. I’m completely serious. “Nazi pooperhead swastika panties” SWASTIKAPANTIESSWASTIKAPANTIESSWASTIKAPANTIES!!! It’s like listening to half a dozen saruhs talking at once. I’m just astonished. It’s all so retarded I want to throw up. It’s fucking Alice in Wonderland over there! Swap Hitler for Putin and there you have it. “Christian” “libertarians” with freaking Hitler grabbing them from under their beds!! Has news not reached them that somehow Pelosi felt the need to denounce antifa?

    If I see the words SWASTIKAPANTIES one more time I’m going to punch the screen. I have never seen such a devolution of normal people to such bizarre paranoid idiotic rabid cultlike (yes damnit) behavior. wth is wrong? It’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard! it’s like Jabba the Hut’s pet cackling over and over again, forever. SWASTIKAPANTIES!!!!

    (slams monitor)

  31. AA: But you did tell people to call other people ‘p#d*philes’?

    VD: I did. And, in retrospect I should no–

    AA: I never told anybody to do that.

    VD: I–I–I–I wouldn–

    AA: I–I wouldn’t tell people to do that.

    VD: And–and that’s probab–that’s wise on your part. You know, I was just thinking about th–the rhetoric. It IS effect–it’s a very effective rhetorical technique. But, it is not–

    AA: Well it seems to be. You SNAPPED!

    VD: [pause] No, I haven’t snapped at all. You–I mean, come on.

    (my transcript from 59:10 forward)

    Vox knows, we know, that he did say to meet a “racist” accusation with a ********* accusation. ‘Meet slander with slander’ as he calls it shortly before the above. Now, as Vox points out, if he lived in Texas, Child Protective Services could come and take his kid(s) away just for the fact someone said that word about him (supposedly).

    Well okay, so that means that if an Ilk or VFM took Vox’s advice, got called a ‘racist’ and called that person a ‘*********’ in reply, that person–and some of them doubtless DO live in Texas, could have lost their children thanks to Vox’s stupid advice. Vox has no moral ground here to complain about the shittiness of the accusation or its real-life consequences since he blithely suggested to others they do it themselves.

    But by God, Vox still thinks it’s “effective rhetoric”. EFFECTIVE RHETORIC(TM)!!!!

    I have to say it now: all those Scalzi types who try and correct Vox on his reading of Aristotle’s Rhetoric are, of course, correct. Aristotle in a million years wouldn’t have given a fuck about posting memes. Good God, he was thinking of Demosthenes.

    That’s not to say Vox hasn’t made some good mileage off his creative misinterpretation. But this is a great flaw in Vox’s thinking. Whether it’s autodidacticism or not, I don’t know, but he has these kooky sub-Ayn Rand takes on many classical topics and he just runs with them, Reagan-like, impervious to anybody’s objections, valid or no.

    But above all: he’s just sperging like a rabid dog here. (mixed metaphor: but imagine a sperg foaming at the mouth) EVEN NOW, now that he’s terrified about the repercussions of this terrible calumny, he can’t let go of how he thought calling someone a ********* EVEN IN CASES WHERE IT’S KNOWN NOT TO BE TRUE was “effective rhetoric”!!!!

    Well gee, Vox, I guess shooting people in the head is “effective rhetoric” too!

    And matthew and markuu think the “sincere” anti-Vox posters will stick around and become converts to the cult of Vox’s greatness by next week. Does he pay them anything?

    Whether or not gab isn’t “ready for prime time”, neither is Vox. Nobody outside his previous circle is ever going to take his schtick seriously. Even as he prepares to sue people, even as he is ready to “burn the world down” to restore his good name from the anonybot calumny of kiddie-d!ddl*ng, still, his spergy sigma potato noggin can’t get over how goshdarn “effective rhetoric”(TM) it is to call someone a *********!

    You know, for calling you a raciss–WHICH WE ARE AND SHOULD BE DAMN PROUD OF!!!

    –Honestly, SJWs Always Lie is a terrific achievement. Possibly his fantasy tetralogy or whatever will be wonderful too. He is often a wonderful prose essayist, and stylistically better than he (oddly) discredits himself for. But Vox needs a good “screw you” for this.

    And his wife is three times too old to be a “Spacebunny”. It’s a sin against the Platonic form of the Cosplaying Waifu. Is he gonna go to court and say, “I don’t answer to Theodore Beale”? Maybe he needs a resolution for when he turns 50: make a bonfire of the vanities of all this Calvin & Hobbes Club G.R.O.S.S. kiddie crap about “Dark Lord of Evil” and whatnot.

    I don’t guess it ever occurred to him that to outside people all this puerile treehouse playtime schtick might actually made ****philia occur to his foes as “effective rhetoric” to use against him and his Lost Boys?

    [NB: keep in mind, he declared war already after some gabber accused him of ED. So YES, Vox is incredibly thin-skinned and needs to hide his bride if either of them is so damn sensitive.]

  32. VD tried to do two things: forcefully distance himself from the DAMN NAZIs, and (as someone on /pol noted) act as a gatekeeper to the alt-right. I assume the first part is due to some personal reason to which we’re not privy. Emails from his pals at Google to cool it with the anti-semitism or get deplatformed? Whatever the reason, it was clumsily executed, making enemies for no good reason. And for the second goal, he simply didn’t have the weight to be the Buckley of the alt-right.

    (For someone with a professed interest in strategy, I furthermore think it was a bit foolish to at the same time so firmly attach himself to Milo and Cernovitch, who are at best cynical marketing chameleons. An unviable position.)

  33. — In that period, which some now call “1.0”, I would make the arguement that Bill White was able to aim his efforts at both X and the soon to be millenials.

    Bill was brilliant as an early WN writer and an activist who kept things legal. His real estate ventures in Roanoke, VA were genuine WN entrepreneurship with great possibilities.

    His undoing was in his unwillingness to hold back. This is armchair quarterbacking now, but it’s also a matter of temperament. He had an irrepressible provocateur streak. His grey area (legally speaking) incitement against Jena participants was one thing. Direct threats (if that’s what truly happened) to public officials handed feds the rope to hang him with.

    Warrior spirit among the powerless is stomped down when not tempered by stealth.

    I ran into Bill in college a few times. He wasn’t a WN yet. He called himself “utopian-anarchist” then. I had a post about that last year. A must-read it if you haven’t already. Not for my vanity, but because people should know about Bill White:

    https://paworldandtimes.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/bill-whites-comment-on-wn-under-trump/

    ***

    I don’t have much to add to what Lucius and Glengarry had said about this campaign. I doubt much will come of it.

    I agree that it is an annoying thing to watch unfold. There are echoes of similar “battles” involving another sometimes uncompromising personality, Larry Auster’s.

    As a necessary counterpoint, VD’s detractors are dismissing his contributions as noted above by Lucius, along with the 16 Points, “they have to go back” absolutism, or his contagious faith in Western nationalist recovery.

  34. While I was writing the above, VD dropped an article which, I would say, reveals the current confusion.

    It’s incredibly informative that one of the most devastating accusations that the Fake Right Swastika Wearing Jackasses can imagine is that I stand by my friends and allies. [“Best friend is a gay jew”, proclaims meme]… it has become abundantly clear that we right-wing omni-nationalists are the Real Alternative Right, the True Right. Because the Fake Right Clowns are not of the Right, do not believe in the Right-Left spectrum, and even openly claim that the historical ideological Right is entirely irrelevant today. Which, of course, is precisely what makes them frauds and charlatans

    Actually, the quickly declining relevance of right-left ideology in a landscape of identity politics is one of the very key points of the alt-right. (Hasn’t VD himself pushed this even?) Losing sight of that is a step backwards, presumably into the fog of Establishment Conservatism.

    Likewise, you read “right-wing omni-nationalist” … and you have to ask, well, which is it?

    Finally, now the True Right apparently means support the gay jew friends of your leader. Or does it mean leave your leader if he splits the party for bullshit reasons?

    Incoherent.

  35. As a necessary counterpoint, VD’s detractors are dismissing his contributions as noted above by Lucius, along with the 16 Points, “they have to go back” absolutism, or his contagious faith in Western nationalist recovery.

    I do agree VD has ‘helped the cause’, which makes the current kerfuffle extra annoying. Divide et Impera.

  36. VD has helped clarify and distill many of the ideas I have but was not able to articulate or reconcile. He is a human and imperfect. This Anglin stuff, gab, whatever. I pay it no mind because it’s just not relevant to most of my life. If it becomes truly divisive to Alt Right, well then, perhaps sides will have to be chosen. Until then, performers are all about drama, so, carry on…

    I’m GenX, right in the middle, born in the very last week of ’75. I attended Catholic school until my junior year of high school. I remember a mostly peaceful childhood, certain elements of personal family strife notwithstanding. My Mom’s extended family was from Newark, NJ. Grandpa was savvy (some would say racist) enough to get his wife and kids out before integration ruined them. He moved them to the middle of nowhere with all the other blue-collar White flighters and so my mom grew up with people who looked like her, worshipped like her, lived like her.

    My great grandmother and most of my uncles, aunts, and cousins, stayed in Newark. Great grandma was mugged by a black guy for the spare change she had in her purse as she walked home from her job one afternoon. Her jaw had to be wired shut, her wrist was broken. None of us have ever been asleep. Woke since birth, because working class Whites (Poles!) know the deal and don’t take your sh!t.

    Growing up in the 80s felt a bit fatal. I remember the ever-present threat of nuclear war, and sometimes lying awake all night worrying that the USSR would nuke us all. There were tv shows about it, songs, news stories. Oh, and the coming ice age, too.

    I remember the story of Noah and the flood. My mom said God promised He would never again flood the world. The next time, He will destroy us with fire. So nuclear war was a heavy thing in my brain. Then Reagan comes along with SALT and we have Gorbachev and glasnost, the Berlin Wall comes down, and for a while it all seems fine. Why not open the borders, let us all feast at the cornucopia and finally be at peace? The Field of the Cloth of Gold…only it’s Rumplestiltskins gold cloth. Doesn’t exist.

    Then you get woke-woke, about the JQ, I mean the deep deep stuff and realize how everything is an opportunity to mind control you, and that with all this money going around we still have issues, and you wonder why, who…whom. But this time, when you name Rumplestiltskin, he doesn’t tear himself in two. It’s you whom he flays, for daring to mention it.

  37. So not knowing where to look for direction, Boomers were somehow convinced that they would look into themselves. Or anyways they were fooled into thinking that looking into themselves would solve their problems of living in the meaningless and structureless environment.

    A lot of this was the influence of Freud and psychoanalytic culture in general. In other words, Jew mind games. Younger folks probably don’t realize how massive was the negative cultural impact of Freud and psychology/psychoanalysis on American culture in the 50s and 60s. All those Jews who hightailed it out of Germany and Austria in the 30s came to America and quickly began to infect the zeitgeist. All of a sudden, nobody was “normal” any more. Everyone was carrying around (fake) “unconscious impulses,” wanting to have sex with their parents, etc. All lies from stemming from the utter fraud Freud.

    The New Yorker actually just published a very interesting piece on the Freud phenomenon here:

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/28/why-freud-survives

    Even more amazing, they cite the great Freud-destroyer Frederick Crews as saying that the purpose of Freud’s work was to be anti-Christian.

    Crews does bring what appears to be a novel charge (at least these days) against psychoanalysis. He argues that it is anti-Christian. By promulgating a doctrine that makes “sexual gratification triumphant over virtuous sacrifice for heaven,” he says, Freud “meant to overthrow the whole Christian order, earning payback for all of the bigoted popes, the sadists of the Inquisition, the modern promulgators of ‘blood libel’ slander, and the Catholic bureaucrats who had held his professorship hostage.” Freud set out to “pull down the temple of Pauline law.”

    They try to dismiss the idea, but it’s amazing that they even let it loose in the open air. Amazing because to me it is transparently true, and those kinds of ideas are usually shot in the nest.

    Anyway, the culture of psychoanalysis really had people navel-gazing and thinking the whole universe revolved around them. It probably had the worst affect of all on Jews, who were radicalized even more by it. And whether they consciously grasped it or not, it led them down the road toward the current anti-white hysteria. After all, it was right in the midst of all the Freud phenomenon that Susan Sontag came out with her famous “whites are the cancer of the human race” comments, which was the first salvo in making open, overt anti-white prejudice socially, politically and academically respectable.

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  39. Laura Wood puts some of this into perspective for me, http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2017/09/when-i-was-seventeen/

    She says” Merely to be young and alive was cause for celebration. I was a spoiled brat but didn’t know it. It was hard to tell because there were millions of others like me. I found I was part of a species unknown in world history until Americans invented it only a few decades earlier: The Teenager. I lived in a limbo state between childhood and adulthood. I hated it.”

    Ah, yes, the Teenager. No one expected too much until it was time to expect something from you. Perhaps this the Boomer’s time bomb, and we can feel it’s legacy even today. “Children” are to be insured by parents until they are 26. Teenage choice mommies are a-ok but teen brides are just hoodwinked victims of patriarchy giving up the excitement of life for the sake of…duty? Honor? Love, heaven forbid?

    Eternal youth and peace, the promise of Elysium. Yet those who attained Elysium had to die honorably in battle. It was not guaranteed. This has been forgotten, or at least mocked and twisted into an unrecognizable parody of the glorious origin story.

  40. Bill White’s learning some amazing things.

    He will have a helluva time getting a job, renting an apartment or starting a new life if he ever gets out. Once, a man could move away and start life over again.

    Not any more. The Electronic Surveillence State is complete. Only cops and cons know how locked down Murka is.

  41. Vox Day’s key claim is correct…

    Nazis are “fake right” whether the Anglins are or are not.

    Nazis put the Führer over the (F)ather.

    Yet…

    Vox Day is anti-white (S)upremacy II notwithstanding his claim to a belief in The Perfect Man as a racially-incarnated red man.

  42. With Thordaddy’s strict standards of (S)u(P)(r)(E)(m)(A)(c)(Y), nobody makes the cut.

    PS: “Nazis put the Führer over the (F)ather” is insightful, but I still wonder why the parentheses around the F.

  43. In the world of “radical autonomy,” (c)atholic equals (C)atholic with no polish sausage basting the others’ hide.

  44. It’s not about making any cut, PA…

    Ain’t jew Ben reading Ryu lately?

    An “are me” of a ZYllion cingle-sells is the “may” of the future.

    YOU real eyes white (S)upremacy as a Polish (C)atholic OR YOU DON’T…

    Leave your “cut” with the whore.

  45. My oldest children hover about the Gen Y endpoint at ’99 and ’01. My youngest are midpoint Gen Z. The defining feature of their “current” affair is the ubiquity of virtual reality/fake media/omnipotent stimuli all geared towards and ideology of “universal equality.”

    If Gen X was the first generation of white progeny to be de-humanized then Gen Y/Z stands an elevated chance of exacerbating this self-dehumanization.

    And it is in the essence of the MessMadia to provoke this very end by memes of global pestilence.

  46. Gen X, like any experimental outcome, was dyke-sodomized by Hoe versus Maid circa 1973. Pre-Hoe fetuses were the “plotted” ones. Post-Maid fetuses are at a whim. Pre-Hoe fetuses escaped legal dehumanization. Post-Maid fetuses are legally dehumanized.

    The memetic intent of Generation X –> Y –> Z is a blatant example of force projection when at the individual level an absence of fear for “It” renders this entangling horror a mere matter of mind over evil media.

    For white children to see themselves as human beings deserving of a full existence again, it will take some kind of miracle in mind-changing amongst the most intelligent of the white race. And only then will the business of changing white childrens’ minds concerning their inherent value even be feasible.

  47. — And it is in the essence of the MessMadia to provoke this very end by memes of global pestilence.

    Mine is young GenZ. We got rid of our TV when he was a toddler. It seems to me that birth-year mid to late 1980s is peak-poz. That’s my own observation, and there was a separate thread on Gab making that point.

    Comments here (personal testimonials) and my personal familiarity with people points to a media and an indoctrination model that’s lost its teeth.

    I’m interested in what Ikacer wrote in his comment, which I put up in the original post — his point about Millennials being an escapism generation because reality is terrifying. I thought that it was a very interesting comment and would love to hear more from anyone who has the insight.

    It couldn’t just have been 9/11. Lots of kids live in war zones. Was it the overdrive of political correctness? The insanity of the contrast between Whites’ self evident qualities vs the narrative to the contrary? Trusted adults’ complicity in lies?

    — For white children to see themselves as human beings deserving of a full existence again, it will take some kind of miracle in mind-changing amongst the most intelligent of the white race.

    That’s is why I’m doing all of this.

  48. Someone at MPC called Vox Day a rare specimen: a right-wing goon.

    Matt King says that men who come into their masculinity late in life carry nerd-memories around with them forever.

    In my opinion, anyone insisting on how smart they are, is missing a big point of the Dissident Right, which is self-selected for intelligence.

    The meaning of the word goon, which is credited to the adult club at MPC, might be useful to expand upon. Suffice it to say that in their opinion Vox qualifies.

  49. Vox Day insisting how smart he is, is goonish and somewhat disrespectful.

    For gosh sake, Bowery comments at CH.

    I have real world accomplishments to speak of. Have i told you my iq lately?

  50. Not any more. The Electronic Surveillence State is complete. Only cops and cons know how locked down Murka is.

    From a practical perspective, how could one escape?

    A man would have to disappear, and then reappear with a new identity.

    American and the world is a big place, so anyone with wilderness skills can disappear. Or at least anyone who is not being singled out and monitored from space to begin with.

    Conceivably everyone on a List has been singled out and is being monitored from space. But how likely is it that that “program” is managed, or even capable of being managed, by a human bureaucracy with enough skill and efficiency to, well, manage to do what it aims to do?

    There is some fundamental and intractable problem with the intersection of 1) the tool of artificial intelligence and 2) bureaucracy that makes the Orwellian aims of the latter impossible.

    So in other words, unless you are a real known character, it is likely that you are in the clear.

    As far as re-emerging with a new identity, I think that too would be possible, simply with a new costume and a new demeanor, but the most important thing in that regard, would be new habits.

    And as far as the actual papers go, a fake identity can be purchased, but probably a better approach would be to go paperless.

    I don’t advocate anyone doing anything like that.

  51. The millennial. Born late 80s here, and ‘pozzed’ early and often. The pervasiveness of the commercial. Ads as terra firma. Billboards where plants should be; no one is taught the names of the plants. The conditioners are conditioned. Drugs reign even in family life. The helicopter and siren raped all lingering sanctity of sleep. The world map just another movie. Where to find refuge? I was health and athletics obsessed, which warded off slumber and allowed for at least those testosterone highs of apparent accomplishment. Drawing was rewarding too, but there weren’t exactly old masters to absorb more nuanced insight from early on. The rampant science project of advertising and the noisy fictions of Science competing within it slowly stitched the sensibilities to that spray painted jackolantern of postmodernism. Tech and unchecked irony as God. I don’t see this as unique to millennials in particular. My near redemption was exiting official sports, fasting occasionally, and reading some of the Greeks in the wilderness. But all the sick television shows and perverted snippets I was exposed to as a child will remain lodged somewhere in my consciousness. A costumed hell of damaging radio waves and giggling ‘coke putas’ laughing at both itself and my century from somewhere askew and within..

  52. “Someone at MPC called Vox Day a rare specimen: a right-wing goon.”

    Do you have a link, elk? I’m not a member so I can’t find my way around; the only things I’ve read there were when Heartiste linked to them but they were often amusing.

    “For white children to see themselves as human beings deserving of a full existence again, it will take some kind of miracle in mind-changing amongst the most intelligent of the white race. And only then will the business of changing white childrens’ minds concerning their inherent value even be feasible.”

    That was beautiful, thor. “Hoe vs. Maid” coinage and paragraph were terrific too.

  53. I’ve pretty much thrown all caution to the wind in writing to my Congressman’s office. The alphabet soupers know everything they want to know when they want to know it anyway. The occasional mild epithet is perhaps too much, but otherwise I’ve forgotten the “I half uh draim” speech ever happened– and attempt mightily to redpill his young staffers to think the same.

    Contra Vox’s new branding of the True Right(TM) (?????!!!), I just send my sweaty SWASTIKA PANTIES straight to Capitol Hill through the email now. From “mom’s basement” to Capitol Hill’s ear!

    –is that “Men of the West” blog those Josh and Nate characters? I checked it out once when it launched but it just seemed to be all 1) muh Confederacy; 2) muh Christian lolbertarianism; and 3) muh niggas down Souff no haw to behave.

    Conspiracy thought: is Voxiversity going to allow the CIA to send VD checks? I should be ashamed; but the very sight that it’s rolling out now couldn’t help but provoke the idea . . .

  54. –I owe PA at least a partial apology for, as it were, hiding behind his skirts (gamma alert: faggot metaphor! SWASTIKA PANTIES DETECTED lolzolz uh oh Hey buddy you’ve been READ OUT OF THE TRUE RIGHT(TM))** and inserting these free-wheeling satires under his aegis.

    Ironically, one of the things I always admired best about VD was the energy and bracing savagery of his literary feuds. As long as he stayed in that lane, he was in little danger of alienating the wider world. Many of his eccentricities, which lately seem so alarming to me, could safely be ‘read’ as amusing poses struck by a witty raconteur. The ego trips and ‘what, me worried?’ assurances had the pleasure of a secret game– something he (surely) knew the more middlebrow Ilk probably couldn’t grasp, but those of a more discerning sensibility would see as necessary equipment for a greater purpose. Like James Bond bedding them for England (as Luciana Paluzzi curiously accuses him in “Thunderball”).

    Right now, it’s more like “The Ugly American.”

    ** Is that going to be (((True Right)))(Tm)?

  55. “It’s Baltimore and what can you expect — but of those pictured six, which one could you maybe trust to be a competent and reasonably fair cop?

    Since no takers, it was a trick question.

    The answer is none of them.

    Everyone of those faces is inclined to sadism, and may they rot in hell.

    Actually though, the black dude in the lower left maybe not.

  56. Lucius, I don’t recall the MPC thread that discussed Vox Day. It was awhile ago and not in response to this latest shitstorm.

    *******************

    Is Vox even White?

    By his own identification, my understanding is that the answer is no.

    If he wanted to be White and tried to pass, maybe. But if he is not doing those things, then it is a moot point. And why on Earth should he be given an insider’s voice on White Identity?

  57. I don’t know that suicide leads to hell.

    What is the difference between say, shooting yourself, versus simply being a deadbeat and not living life with respect for God’s Green Earth?

    And considering that the vast majority of people including Whites, fail utterly and completely on the second measure, maybe suicide for them would be a favor to everyone else.

  58. I don’t want to get cynical here, as it is time to go out and face the world, but most people don’t live life with respect for themselves or anyone else.

    Look at how they treat themselves and the shape they are in.

    To be sympathetic, people are responding to the environment that they live in.

    I consider the environment that we create to be principally a problem of Aesthetics.

    It is not a magic word or a magic concept, but it does better than SCALE in getting at our problems and pointing to a solution.

    It is impossible to get away from SCALE, and therefore the Aesthetics that the World and with its exponent of SCALE, will express, have to be kept in mind.

  59. — no one is taught the names of the plants (Each Pond Gone)

    That’s a big one with me. In our evil russkie freedumb-hatin’ commie elementary school, autumn-season walks to the city park were a thing. The assignment was to collect fallen leaves and acorns from an x-number of trees, then back in the classroom glue them to paper, caption each with the name of the tree, and memorize their names. I curse the fall of the Iron Curtain.

    — What is the difference between say, shooting yourself, versus simply being a deadbeat and not living life with respect for God’s Green Earth? (Elk)

    Here, Matt King’s theological knowledge would be appreciated. My layman answer: actively offing yourself is a repudiation of the gift of life. Different than passive neglect to make the most of it. Many priests go around the rules and bury a parishioner on Church grounds under mitigating circumstances of the suicide not having been of sound mind.

    Whatever the rule, you don’t negotiate with God or deign fool Him with Talmudic prancing around the loopholes. So just keep it simple and don’t kill yourself.

  60. “It’s Baltimore and what can you expect — but of those pictured six, which one could you maybe trust to be a competent and reasonably fair cop?”

    Ah, Elk, well you answered your own question before I could jump in, but I’d say none as well.

    Damn look at those eyes set so close in the face, on all of them. I have a narrowish oval shaped face but my eyes sit wide under deep eye sockets, and my pupils are over the crest of my cheekbones.

    People whose eyes are too close together unnerve me, they always have. That’s the “beady-eyed” look of a crook and a con or worse, that you’re supposed to instinctively fear, except now we’re told its bigotry to do so.

    Burn it all down. Armies have long used retards to do the dirty work because they are malleable, and psychopaths to do the torture and mass murder, because they are not only more than willing but eager.

    This has not changed one whit in the modren era, it’s just dressed up prettier and people are more distracted.

  61. EPG said “Where to find refuge? I was health and athletics obsessed, which warded off slumber and allowed for at least those testosterone highs of apparent accomplishment. Drawing was rewarding too, but there weren’t exactly old masters to absorb more nuanced insight from early on. ”

    Healthy and athletics obsessed. This is a critical point that is probably taken for granted enough to be overlooked.

    For decades, perhaps a century or more, (((“Darwinism”))) has been thwarted by ever advancing applied science in the fields of medicine, crop production, animal husbandry, engineering, tech, and (((propaganda))).

    Why include the last bit? Oh, because it foments White guilt (ha!) and means we work harder to bring the rest of the world up to speed.

    Some people shouldn’t breed. And I don’t say that as some arbiter of the worthy. It’s a fact of nature. Not everything that was ever conceived grows and flourishes. Maybe in Eden it did, but you’re not going to bring that back so stop trying. Because in Eden, everything was perfect, yes? And so on, legends of the fall, and why we’re wretched.

    In nature, those who can’t do don’t even teach, they just die. Predators take them, injury or illness befalls them, or they are left behind to make their way if they can. And if they do make a way, well. New genetic frontiers to test.

    But human compassion works differently, and it’s been coopted to work against nature at all instances, so much so that we argue for the reproductive rights of people incapable of taking care of themselves let alone other living things or, um, their progeny, as “pro” as those “genes” are.

    A frequent commenter at VD, d.c. sunsets, says social moods and money mania is about to collapse and when it happens this will all go away. It will take decades, but it will correct itself. I’m inclined to agree.

  62. Camlost, this makes me laugh because it sounds exactly like the kind of F-U my great grandfather would have given to, well, anyone who demanded anything from him without good reason.

    I’m not an easygoing person at all. I often say that I’m lucky in my husband because he is the only person who can tolerate me for more than five minutes ( a joke, but one he says about himself, too. Peas, pods). I wonder how much of my ornery attitude is plain genetics. I can get along but don’t push me too hard. Ken?

  63. I am enjoying Eastern Europe’s refusal to accept refugees. The truth is the refugees don’t want to go to Eastern Europe. EE also gets many subsidies from Western Europe. Even so, I am glad they are saying “no”.

  64. In those halycon days of the early 21st, there was such wealth of entertainment and possibility of escapism. For a little while, the entire millenial generation could be called leftist. It was after 2008 that cracks appeared in the edifice of the cathedral. Millenials are timid, lack fortitude (The Australian Army had to teach its officers about Job), conformist and feminine. It takes privation, full metal jacketed reality or deliberate discipline to change them.

    Don’t put all the eggs in Gen Zyklon though. I work with teenagers that don’t even know who Jesus is and don’t know why we have an Easter Holiday.

  65. The “degeneration” of Gen Z is the advantage.

    They are uncivilized because they have no civilization. The white kids have nothing. They are starting from year zero.

    Their apathy and nihilism is a step above boomerism and liberalism. Like a pendulum on its way to the right.

    Their lack of Christianity is an advantage. They will not “turn the other cheek.” They will not worship Israel. They will take, rather than wait for God. The “atavistic” white man is the one who wins it for us.

    White kids just have to learn how to rebel again. Talk back, grow an attitude problem, learn how to deal with trouble.

    I always picture that kid in “Christine”, ready to kill his father. That’s exactly what a young WN is like. I get it. While they sit on their butts, he takes action.

    I love the look of fear the father has. He should be afraid.

  66. Year zero’s just another idle mathematician’s game, Ryu. Nihilism is for borderline dykes. The Good Lord’s paradise is no mere playground.

    “What times are these when a conversation is nearly a crime because it contains so much made explicit?” …Paul Celan

  67. I’m intrigued by Ryu’s choice of John Carpenter’s “Christine”, an imperfect film that nonetheless is essentially the last of Carpenter’s great run of canonical films from “Halloween” on (at least the classical horror films).

    But–and not in a spirit of mischief–I will say this: when I saw the film in 2011, it struck me it seemed to have a strong homoerotic subtext.

  68. when I saw the film in 2011, it struck me it seemed to have a strong homoerotic subtext.

    Well, keep in mind that you’ve been conditioned by (((you know who))) to see homos under every bed spread. Things that were once seen as simple male bonding are now viewed with a smirk — oh, they must be gay. It’s all Brokeback Mountain now. Things that were once seen as simple adult male mentoring to a young male are now viewed with a smirk — oh, he must be a pedo.

    This is classic Jew thinking coming from Freud, that EVERYTHING has to be sexualized, and even worse secretly sexualized. OF COURSE you’re denying it! That’s just what a secret homosexual would say. It’s sick and it’s evil and it just isn’t true. The vast majority of men aren’t gay. Even fewer are pedophiles. Yet any time two men so much as share a bro hug we’re supposed to think “come out dah closet yo!”

  69. “Christine” took place in 1978, which was very near the end of “real” white culture.

    It was also the time when many of the famous WNs, Bob Matthews, Joe Paul Franklin, the Order, and others came about. The computer hadn’t come alone yet to track everything. Maybe WN’s “golden age” was 1975 to 1985.

    To sound like TD “all revolution is revolution against one’s parents.”

    The young are going to have to clean up the mess left. They SHOULD be very angry. That anger will do more for them than anything else.

    You can’t “fix” anything left now. Tear it all down and start fresh.

    You don’t gain power by being nice or asking permission. Parents are not going to like the way their kids have to do thing. So be it.

    Young WNs must take it all over from their parents. THAT, is what you see in the scene. They won’t like it, but they will respect superior force and will – everyone does.

  70. Camlost, thanks for that article. I posted it on Gab and it’s getting some re-tweets (re-gabs?).

    Also posted this impromptu PA maxim:

    The Linear Progression Theory of Diversity: a seamless transition from an all-White to a non-White country.

    The Compression-Explosion Theory of Diversity: Whites tolerate the squeeze until an inflection point at which they actively or passively destroy Diversity.

    On Peterike’s point… I recently got together with a friend for a brisk walk in a park to pump some O2 into the brain and to catch up on things. He brought his baby in a stroller (the summabich keeps on making huWhyte babiezz well into his late forties!) and we noticed passing groups of girls and couples giving us friendly “Hellos”. He said “You know, twenty years ago people would just know we’re friends. Now they think we’re a gay couple that adopted.”

    “Fuck ’em,” I said, “They don’t own the rainbow and they sure as hell don’t own friendship.”

  71. “If you are diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, act fast while you still have your faculties… suicide is punished by an eternity in Hell, so rather than offing yourself, go out into the wilderness and when past the point-of-no-return, pray.”

    No.

  72. If there is one way to nail the Baby Boomers down as a generation, I’d put it as follows: they believe that the world begins and ends with them.

    I’d say this is a fairly accurate characterization. I know many Boomers who are mentally stuck in the 60’s… that is, they believe the social order they created in that decade is the correct arrangement and will remain so forevermore. This is why I have so many Boomer libs and conservatives on my Facebook feed screeching to the high heavens over the emergence of the alt-right. They never imagined such a thing could emerge in their wake. They fixed all that, didn’t they? (One of my Boomer uncles, a Grateful Deadhead old hippy who went on to make gobs of money in the 80’s, literally had a mental breakdown after Trump was elected.)

    The rejoinder of course is that every generation thinks this way. To test this, I brought that point up with several Boomers in my extended family and they all agreed: the Boomer generation is uniquely myopic and this can be attributed to the fact that they held the center of attention of the nation from an early age and reshaped the social landscape so drastically they can’t imagine another way. In addition to their invention of youth culture, the sheer size and material prosperity of this generation resulted in a singularly narcissistic cohort

  73. For this kiked-out generation, it’s always 9/11/2001 and submission to the police-state that the shock-and-awe ushered in. They were kicked in the teeth by the anti-White system, brainwashed in school, and cut down to sub-equality with weaponized niggers and race-replacement immigrants. While Boomers cashed-in and GenX froze up, Millennials embraced Stockholm Syndrome.

    I would add that the Millenials are the first completely feminized generation. In my interactions with late stage millennials, I find they consistently elevate the importance emotions over facts (feels before reals), and hold feminine virtues in high esteem like compassion or tolerance over masculine virtues like justice and force. Hence they believe asinine things like “hate speech is not free speech.” Or that speech can literally be violence. They really believe this stuff if you talk to them.

  74. As a Millennial, everything described about my generation in this post is 100% correct. My generation is weak, feminized, and liberal, actually pretty much straight up Communist in some respects. I consider myself one of the few Red Pilled Millennials (and believe me, there are very few of us). I feel much more at home among Generation Z.

    In the defense of the Millennials, Millennials pretty much got the full brunt force of the planned Zionist police state. 9/11 had a severe psychological impact upon the entire population, but for us it happened at a critical stage among our lives, right when many of us were young adolescents. This is where the march to the NWO came into full effect; schools were being filled with non-whites through affirmative action, propaganda was turned up to the Nth degree in school, television, film, radio, you name it. Millennials were screwed from the beginning. Even if you were red pilled like me, you were stunted in your growth, clasped in ball in chain through the ridiculous college scam, paying off crazy amounts of college loans. Literally paying to be brainwashed.

    The delusion of the Boomers is just insane. It’s a generational thing; they do not see the NWO. They dont see it. Even after my incessant pushing for over 8 years (back when I woke up in 2008) my boomer parents still dont see the big picture. My boomer parents are conservative, working class, dont have much money, and even they still dont get it. They still think they are living in a country that actually is theirs. They believe its the greatest country in the world, and that we are living in this cornucopia of opportunity, when nothing further is from the truth.

    No wonder why Millenials are the most cucked generation of all time. I live in a deep blue state, but this mindset runs everywhere. Here are the tenants of the most cucked generation ever to walk this earth:

    1) All the races and genders are equal. Its possible to live among other races and everything will be OK

    2) Blacks are doing poorly because they are oppressed and live in poverty

    3) George W Bush is the most evil man alive

    4) Whites should give up their homes to non-whites, mass immigration is great. Whites cant do the jobs non-whites do.

    5) 9/11 was done by muslim terrorists and muslim terrorists alone

    6) There is no conspiracy within the government at all, just evil White Republicans

    7) Taxes are a good thing

    8) The Police State is a necessary evil

    9) Tradition, like the nuclear family, little to no sex before marriage, etc are of a bygone era and we should embrace all of this degeneracy and casual sex

    Literally Stockholm syndrome. This is what my generation believes. Really, they believe it. This has resulted in a whole generation of man children living either at home with their parents or in a shared home, and a generation of late 20’s cat mom’s, pumped and dumped endlessly in college, riding the cock carousal to no man’s land. The scam of college, essentially indoctrination centers, are the holy churches of Millennials, the professors their priests. Paying for their own destruction right after they get out of college, paying for years ridiculous sums of money that can only be summed up as: theft.

    And what did they do? Absolutely nothing. Weakness personified. The Millennial generation is the sacrificial lamb for Generation Z. Gen Z is the backlash to the abuse that the Millennials have endured

  75. I disagree that John’s comment was “great.” His comment is incredibly subversive. It is a comment indicative of an incoherent alt-rite subterfuge. He is practically a LARPing handmaiden for the “Culture of Critique.” He takes personal anecdotes and force projects a chaotically demoralizing collective picture. But the worse thing that he has done is transcend the modern milieu without really believing he has transcended the modern milieu (as though by random accident). So, he can see down at the Millennial degenerates, but he can neither explain his elevation above them nor advise them on how to elevate to his state of transcendence.

    And the reason one can draw this final conclusion is rather self-evident at this stage of existential crisis.

  76. “Well, keep in mind that you’ve been conditioned by (((you know who))) to see homos under every bed spread.”

    –I’m accidentally on the wrong thread, but I’ll try and catch up. I was on a bit of a John Carpenter kick that year, and had rewatched “Prince of Darkness” which does flirt with some AIDS and lesbian subtexts. In “Christine” our hero is, from the beginning, a pretty painfully awkward kid, and the jock friend just doesn’t seem to have any reason to pal around with him. It’s actually the pal who, it seemed to be, was being bestowed with some kind of secret anxiety or anguish. I would have to watch it again, but as I recall it in memory he seemed to be rather nervous around the leading lady too, and kept putting off making his move; and a crucial scene when he’s injured takes place as he’s portentously distracted by the car, the antihero, and the girl. The car itself seems to radiate menace at him, but why? Was it because he was seen as the chief rival for–Artie, is it?’s– affections?

    Keep in mind, Carpenter is a pretty atheistic guy (as I understand it). The screenwriters admitted to being under some pressure from the studio to coarsen the script and make it more like (this does seem strange) De Palma’s Scarface.

    Finally, Christine is notable for really pushing the “let’s cast 30somethings as teenagers” thing. More par for the course in those days, but it’s so extreme as to seem ‘meta’, like the film is suggesting some sort of vague time warp or a very severe case of arrested development.

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  78. I dunno about quietly going off into the woods to let the coyotes get me. THIS ol’ Boomer likes the way Bobby Bacala went out — one last hit, one last cigarette.

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