Advice to a 15-Year-Old Man (by a CH reader)

This 25-point advice was posted as a series of comments by Vagina dominator at Chateau Heartise:

What do the pua manosphere and shitlords generally believe about women and how to live your life? If you wanted to redpill your 15 year old son (and perhaps give him nightmares) what would you tell him about women and getting laid? I have knocked out a quick list of Polonius-worthy points. You may agree, disagree, or like to add something.

1. It is men who are the romantics, not women, and men must guard against being taken in by their own romanticizing of the opposite sex. Be realistic about women. If someone farted in the lift, it is as likely to be a woman as a man. Don’t buy their bullshit.

2. Women are always looking for someone to look after them and pay their way, whether it is a man or, like nowadays, the State. Don’t be a sucker for women with your time and money. She wants to move house and needs to move some furniture? Let her call a fucking removalist. You have to play hockey.

3. Women despise men who are weak and allow women to push them around. But they certainly will use such men for attention and resources.

4. Women love strong and independent men who will master and control them and who have some social status (even if it is negative). They are attracted to such men whether they have resources or not.

5. Women are no more loyal or trustworthy than men. A lot of men are always looking for something hotter and tighter, if they could get it. A lot of women too are always looking for a better deal, whether it is a better “resources deal” or a better “man-deal”. Of course, for women too it is a question of “if she thinks she can get it”.

6. Attractive women can also have the clap or be looney, same as a heavily-tattooed woman that looks like a skank. You cannot “tell” just by looking at the package.

7. A man must control the women in his life or they will hinder, damage or even destroy him. Many men throughout human history have observed that women are often the great destroyers of a young man’s dreams. Don’t ever “give up” positive things in your life for a woman.

8. Society must control women. Women are not “civilizational”. Men build civilizations. Women only think of themselves. Women will always vote what *they believe* is good for themselves. They will never vote for what is good for civilization.

9. None of this can be discussed with women. They will simply say Not All Women Are Like That (meaning, “I am not like that” or “I do not like what I am hearing and will deny it even though I know it is true”)

10. None of this can be discussed with many men. It is a subject that can be discussed or raised only with care. A lot of men will find these views offensive. That is because they are pussywhipped, but do not say this to them. They may yet come around to reality.

11. There are many weak men in the world who think their best way to manage their relationships with women is to surrender and brown-nose and agree with everything they say and do. These “nu-men” are weak and scared and women know it. Remember, women hate, hate, hate weak men.

12. Some women can display reason and intelligence *when it suits them*. In the current arrangement of society, it rarely suits women to be reasonable, as complaining and claims of victimhood are for the most part much more profitable.

13. In your relationships with women, don’t ever panic or be forced into time-sensitive decisions. As a man, time is on your side. Remember, women age like milk. Men age like fine wine. And there are plenty of fish in the sea.

14. Relationships conducted at a distance never work. When you called on Saturday night and it sounded like a party and she said she was studying, well….look, I don’t want to break your heart, but you’re here, and the attentive and handsome young men are there. With her.

15. Never loan the bitch money or go pick up drugs for her or anything stupid like that. Her problems and her errands are hers, not yours.

16. Never move in with a girl. In many jurisdictions, after the passing of a certain amount of time, say 2 years, and if you “share bills” – like everyone fucking does in a share house – you may be considered by the courts to be in a de facto relationship (m*rried).

17. Single m*thers. Avoid. Like the plague. They have made bad decisions. They will make more.

18. There’s nothing quite like rawdogging except for
– pregn*ncy
– venereal diseases

19. Lots of women are bored and want to create drama in their life. These people always have “problems” of all kinds. They are always having pregn*ncies, abortions, miscarriages, fights with friends or f*mily, being evicted, having the car towed, trying to borrow money, arranging a drug deal, itching from vaginosis, having their house broken into, lost their purse, need help to get their essay in (want you to write it), are late for everything, often get drunk and hung over… Stay away from such people but in particular do not white knight for women of this kind. Women of this kind can spot a white knight from a mile away. Do not try to help them. Do not get involved in their life and dramas. Do not offer your opinions or advice. They will use this small involvement as a string to further drag you in and control you, hold onto you and drag you down with them. They may use pussy to drag you in. Careful, this whore will probably give you the clap.

20. Women lie. They lie all the time and they lie about everything, money, former boyfriends, how much they spent, where they have been, how much they drank, what time they got home, just the tip (sorry, no, that’s my lie), that they are on the pill, yeh, they remembered to take it, how many were in the train,…everything. You are advised to assume that they are liars until it is proven otherwise.

21. There’s an old sailor’s rhyme “If much make up by night, at morning sure fright.” You’ve been warned.

22. A lot of women like rough sex, or they like the guy to be demonstratively uh…”passionate” is I suppose how they see it. Take care with this. It is true that a lot of sex is about submission and dominance but there’s a range…and if she wakes up in the morning and decides she doesn’t really like you but she has bruises, well, you will be swimming in a lake of shit.

23. I know the Jews recommend it on every porn site and make it appear to be the ne plus ultra of sexuality and dominance but on the subject of anal “sex”, please bear in mind that it is exactly as disease spreading, unhygienic, and unhealthy as you would expect dipping your dick into human faeces to be. Think “I like this girl so much I am going to give her fistulas.” Does that make sense to you? Fuck the sicko Jews.

24. Who has she been with? Smackies? NIggers? Nigger smackies? Problem here is that it is no good to ask her because, as observed above, women always lie.

25. The Coolidge effect (regularly wanting newer pussy) exists. In a society where we constantly meet new people, where big cities, cars, and smart phones provide anonymity for brief and easy hookups, and where work takes us away from our families and the small daily joys of family life, we can easily overestimate the value of hole and find ourselves chasing it, living secret lives, in ways often too subtle to label stressing those around us and cheating ourselves of our daily equanimity. This is partly the result of the whole of modern society being hole-obsessed and wanting us too to be hole-obsessed. You are going to have to navigate this world as you get older. My advice is to just dial it down. Put yourself first. Don’t buy cheap shit (pussy) at a high price (a relaxed and happy frame of mind, friendships, your valuable time, control of the direction of our own life) where you find yourself blowing your load and wondering if it was even worth the bus fare. Anyway, I’m not telling you to be a saint. I’m just saying, think about this from time to time.

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24 thoughts on “Advice to a 15-Year-Old Man (by a CH reader)

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  2. It’s good work. The PUAs deserve credit for cracking the code. They’ve got it all figured out. If only more men were hungry for such information.

  3. 14. Relationships conducted at a distance never work. When you called on Saturday night and it sounded like a party and she said she was studying, well….look, I don’t want to break your heart, but you’re here, and the attentive and handsome young men are there. With her.

  4. 18. There’s nothing quite like rawdogging except for
    – pregn*ncy
    – venereal diseases

    If it’s not raw it’s not real.

    Also. For it to be real, not only does it have to be raw, it has to be ejaculating inside the woman’s vagina.

    So then. What’s your n-count versus your real n-count?

  5. — The PUAs deserve credit for cracking the code.

    Anglin or weev said that the System thought it had every base covered, with free pussy buying the White alpha’s consent (or indifference, same thing) to White genocide. But they — the system — failed to anticipate two things: (1) the internet giving us ways of communicating with each other, and (2) the paradoxical fact that the winners of the liberated sexual market would come to despise women.

    As commenter Thursday wrote ten years ago at CH: “Success with women is more disillusioning than failure.”

    That was written in a PUA context — success presumably measured in those terms, not in a more traditional sense of finding and keeping a good woman.

  6. To crack the code
    Where the Logos bode
    Requires a mastery
    Of linguistic tapestry
    Jettisoned by a father’s load…

  7. “Success with women is more disillusioning than failure”

    If I recall, CH replied to that with something like, “Every time I succeed at gaming a woman, a little piece of me dies inside” or something like that.

    I didn’t fully grasp the depth of that little statement, but it carries a lot of why Game leads to Red Pill leads to Alt Right. When the lies are exposed, really clearly exposed, we tend to see the other lies as well. That “little piece dying” is the acceptance; it’s cognitive dissonance being removed. Once a Man can see ALL of the lies,… The Truth is both Awakening and Empowering.

  8. [Let’s see how PA’s mod is … Intended for Vag Dom on how to (almost literally) disseminate his wisdom in an effective way. It could easily apply to the host of this site and any of the other perceptive thinkers/writers who haunt these parts:]

    Keep compiling, Vag Dom. Combined with your very sharp and practical advice on self-defense, you are serving a neglected element of the renaissance. I’d say start a blog, but that is so last decade. Maybe publish your epigrams online for feedback and refinement, but only with an eye toward the creation of a comprehensive compendium that you will eventually e-publish (like CH should have done at least 5 years ago!).

    Do it not for cash and prizes — there will be none. But do it to leave your wisdom somewhere accessible in the world, so that daddyless children might stumble on it and make themselves into shitlords sui-generis. Or for the secret samizdat a less articulate father can hand to his son after the birthday party’s over and mom and sis have gone to bed. Being the co-creating author of a new generation of men is its own reward, paid in glory.

    There is a prominent preggo fetish on this site, which is demographically important, sure. But it isn’t anywhere near sufficient. White men can never be r-selected. There is no white race rightly understood without a very invested fatherhood. Our boys have to be baptized into a specific tradition and guided K-style until their prefrontal cortex is fully formed.

  9. The points are “solid” advice and this solidness is exactly its drawback in this time of “radical autonomy.”

    By determining to define “white women” essentially devoid of God-ordained free will, one dangles precariously between a generalized reality and a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    “We” know that the faggots possess a firm grasp of the sickNarrative and therefore tend toward self-fulfilling prophecy.

    I will tell my sons to see God-ordained free will in that teenage white GIRL.

  10. “And there are plenty of fish in the sea.” No, this is false because it assumes we exist in a vacuum where attractive nubile females are constantly replenished and completely ignores the Children of Men scenario facing White people. Plus historically, only 40 percent of men have been able to pair bond and reproduce while the other 60 had to go without. In a finite world with finite wealth and resources, there isn’t enough to go around. Saying there are plenty of fish in the sea is like someone pissing on my head and telling me it is raining.

  11. CH was acknowledging the self-annihilation inherent to radical sexual autonomy. He was acknowledging that in being on an “equal footing” to his mark in their mutual lack of free will, he was not actually “gaming” at all. He was only matching mechanized “gears” sufficiently and efficiently enough to create a momentary cycle of cum bustin’.

  12. “Plenty of fish in the sea” assumes “white” beta must ultimately miscegenate or never reach a state of fatherhood.

  13. Preconceptions about Woman-at-large tend to suck the life marrow out of all Real Experience. Learn to love organic fate as your personal mistress, and your will inevitably asserts itself in the human environment. I agree broadly w/ t-daddy. Love isn’t the product of thought, which is basically always of the past. Cheers

  14. — Saying there are plenty of fish in the sea is like someone pissing on my head and telling me it is raining

    That is true. Obesity epidemic and Tinder-experience are removing many young women from consideration.

    It’s a subject for its own post, and I’m thinking that a young man today has to decide EARLY what he wants out of life. Quality attractive girls exist but access to many of them requires being part of the right cliques and subcultures. This has strong socioeconomic implications. An evolving thought.

  15. The biggest challenge with swallowing the Red Pill is that you scrutinise everything through that filter of sexual dynamics: it could be a girl you just met or Polands refusal to allow migrants…every comment every action is now subject to a new kind of litmus test.

    A lot of guys find this overwhelming and withdraw or hate women or do everything to avoid what I think is truly at her heart of swallowing the Red Pill: masculine self improvement.

    The part of the advise that is hardest for me is the point about not talking about thisnwoth other guys.

    I got to events and parties andnmotice coxk blocking and mate
    Guarding when I walk in. I get an ioi from a girl and the blue pill white knights she’s with literallly do everything possible to prevent the girl from interacting with me. It’s subtle to the untrained eye but so obvious when you understand this whole dynamic.

    White knighting …yes.

  16. Some of your comments at CH are very good, PA.

    “Guys, black pilling is emotional incontinence.

    If you are willing to give it all, plan something and be an action hero. Pull it off and you’re a volk hero for the ages.

    If you aren’t at a point in your life to make a sacrifice, then just STFU and get out of the way.

    “Get out of the way” is not an insult. It is a legitimate way of contributing, after leading and following.

    Unless you have a police state or a 100% Ned Flanders population, some amount of contained White criminality is a sign of a healthy high-T nation.

    Where White criminality is mostly drug addicts stealing property for their next fix, it’s a sign of an illegitimate government, i.e. one that drives its young to turn to meth in lieu of a sense of purpose.”

    White criminality today is a very good sign. It shows white men still want to live, and are willing to do anything in order to do it.

    The change will come, when WNs look UP at criminals, not down. Being criminal is not so easy as the goodwhites imagine.

  17. One the best of CH’s Commandments is the 2/3 rule. I’d advise 1/3 for teenage males.

    Also, regarding tattoos, someone once said every girl’s tattoo = 20 cocks.

  18. I think these are good. If for some reason you are not in the right frame of mind to handle a woman, you are probably better off staying away from them until you are stronger. Women take advantage of weakness. I have a difficult mother, who I do not always deal with effectively, so I understand how much work women can be. I’m learning it is better to stand up for yourself initially, then to give in and become angry and resentful as a result. Also, pick your battles, a lot of things are not worth making an issue about.
    I think one thing that is important is being able to bond with other men and having hobbies or interests of your own. That gives you other things to do with your time, so you are not so dependent of your girlfriend or wife. Stay busy with things that have nothing to do with her. That time away gives you perspective.
    I have a die hard liberal mother. Needless to say, she hates Trump. She called me on election day and begged me not to vote for Trump. I did anyway. She was depressed for a few days after the election, but funny enough she has been nicer since the election. We don’t discuss politics, but she has completely stopped with the snide anti Trump remarks.

  19. I’m not good at making friends, but I’ve found joining clubs/organizations helps with that. It gives you a common interest and something you can bond over. These friendship don’t run very deep, but so what, it’s still companionship.

  20. “But they — the system — failed to anticipate two things: (1) the internet giving us ways of communicating with each other, and (2) the paradoxical fact that the winners of the liberated sexual market would come to despise women.”

    Or (3) there would start to be otherwise-satisfied White Alphas who would look around and say, “hey, this ain’t right”, and bite the bullet and run for public office.

  21. 1. It is men who are the romantics, not women, and men must guard against being taken in by their own romanticizing of the opposite sex. Be realistic about women. If someone farted in the lift, it is as likely to be a woman as a man. Don’t buy their bullshit.

    Girls don’t fart. (muh White princesses!)

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