What The Talented Tenth Are Running From

You saw this photo at Château Heartiste first. It shows a self-identified Christian of Central African Republic eating the leg of a slain Muslim enemy.

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There are people of the African diaspora whom W.E.B. Dubois dubbed the “Talented Tenth.” Anticipating the death of liberalism, here are some of the scenarios that might be open to those members of the brown bag caste who want to keep their descendants from reverting to certain African norms:

More anti-racism. In perpetuity, the arrangement under which blacks are granted first-class citizenship over Whites with all of the benefits and none of the responsibilities of running a civilization, as Whites across all social classes have all of the burden with none of the positive incentive.

Mate with Whites. A question about the mudshark-era organ harvesting of White wombs: what if honor-lynchings come back? Another question: what does a Mulatto father do about his light-skinned daughter gravitating to wild bucks? Answer: under patriarchy, whatever needs to be done. Finally… is Philip Chism an improvement over the cannibal?

Individual patronage. On an individual basis, negotiate a patron-vassal relationship with amenable Whites.

White Man’s Burden. The uplifting of Africans to European norms was a 19th century project that faltered with mid-20th century’s liberation of American blacks and welfare-driven dysgenics.

Black eugenics. The more ruthlessly implemented, the sooner the cannibal is bred out of their gene pool. Advocate for a paternalistic society that combines Jim Crow-style enforcement of K-selected cultural standards with Margaret Sanger’s biological measures.

Found a new nation. Forming an autonomous nation based on a Mulatto or similar identity, marrying solely among their fellow caste members. Haiti offers a cautionary tale here: its post-colonial Mulatto class was slaughtered by pure-blooded Africans, so the founders of this new nation would have to set a bottom standard on membership in this community.

Take responsibility for their fellow blacks. Stop mooching from Whites (integration is mooching too), accept their African destiny, and lead their people in harmony with their better nature.

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152 thoughts on “What The Talented Tenth Are Running From

  1. what does a Mulatto father do about his light-skinned daughter gravitating to wild bucks?

    Based on broad yet anecdotal observational experience, I notice that mulatto or light-skinned black females almost always seem to prefer darker-skinned black males when it comes to choosing mates. I don’t know why; it seems some sort-of midpoint between conservative race theory and liberal anti-racism theoreticals would dictate the opposite in terms of tendency and trend.

    But like I said, it’s anecdotally seems like almost the opposite pattern occurs, to the extent that one could reasonable think it was biological reflex.

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  3. p.s. to PA: That picture is just too much: something about the visual combination of the cream-colored heel and underfoot contrasting with the charred, seemingly hairy upper-shin area —- all set against that BBQ-rib-like pink-meat-and-bone —- makes you wanna ralph. Yikes!

  4. More seriously, in terms of the steps to be prioritized by this ‘talented tenth?” I’m reflexively down with the ‘Black eugenics” and “Take responsibilty” steps, though others are necessary but need more explanation than accorded in a initial, requested list (namely: the ‘White Man’s Burden” and “individual patronage” opt-fors.

  5. what does a Mulatto father do about his light-skinned daughter gravitating to wild bucks?

    Maybe 1 in a million black fathers spend any effort worrying about who their daughter screws. It’s just too much work.

  6. As we devolve in our society to the lowest common demonstrator, it’s becoming frustrating that “taking responsibility” for one’s own actions has to actually be mentioned.

    This is what happens when you lose that two-parent system.

  7. Nevermind G. Khan, Mao, Joe Stalin -the worst people in the history of the world are those who brought (and continue to bring) food and medicine to Africa.

    But at least Pope Frankie is happy – more catholics!

  8. A lot of people don’t realize that when Africans eat “bush meat” it’s often just whatever critter they will able to catch, shoot or stomp. And often not even properly cleaned/gutted/dressed – just thrown over a fire and grilled, fur and all:

  9. in the area between PA’s post the comments, there are two advertisments. One is for Knott’s Berry Farm, and the other is for……..the NBA.

    In a post about blacks.

    Lovin’ me some algorithms.

  10. Some one mentioned a book called Negros in Negroland. I downloaded it on Amazon for $.99. It is comprised of quotes from people who have visited Africa, mostly long ago. It really is shocking how uncivilized they were. The African lifestyle was maybe a step up from chimpanzees.

  11. The blacks we have in this country are a range. The ones I interact with are civilized. As you get further in the city, they become darker and less civilized.

  12. Steve Sailer noticed years ago that females always prefer males who are darker skinned than they are. He speculated that is why Nicole Kidman is an in demand actress, because she is fairer than all actors.

  13. I’ve always found men slightly darker skinned than I am the most attractive. It doesn’t have to be much, just slightly darker.

  14. Having fair skin makes you very vulnerable in a sunny climate. Women like to be more vulnerable than the man they are with. If you are a fair skinned man, you will be more appealing in a cloudy climate.

  15. Steve Sailer noticed years ago that females always prefer males who are darker skinned than they are.

    That just doesn’t hold in Northern Europe where there’s no discernible difference in male/female skin tone.

  16. The “talented teeth” are anti-white Supremacy TO THEIR CORE. “Terminable without consent” and the “legitimacy of pre-emptivd strike” are the key phrases phased in to faze out the “black upperhands.”

  17. Forming an autonomous nation based on a Mulatto or similar identity,

    Not going to happen as there’s just too much upside to being around whites, who are free with everything and are increasingly undemanding on them, having now embraced the foolish notion that blacks can live peaceable and orderly under the “honor system” known as western legalism.

    If you want to silence an SJW just ask them to name a black-run country they’d like to raise children in, out of the 75+ black majority nations on the planet.

    Black eugenics.

    Monogamy must come before eugenics can start to work, hence it will never happen with blacks.

  18. — I notice that mulatto or light-skinned black females almost always seem to prefer darker-skinned black males when it comes to choosing mates […], to the extent that one could reasonable think it was biological reflex

    It seems like it’s stronger than cultural. A biological impulse to correct something?

    — Maybe 1 in a million black fathers spend any effort worrying about who their daughter screws. It’s just too much work.

    Wouldn’t that fraction be much higher with the Talented Tenth, though? They are more realistically, I’d venture a guess, more like 1% of all blacks. Those who are forward looking and have daughters (and sons) do want them to do better than no-account ghetto, much less cannibal. I imagine that they have the abyss of regression-to-cultural-mean on one side, and little in the way of aspirational prospects on the other side, especially when liberalism and its massive patronage of literate blacks ends.

    — Steve Sailer noticed years ago that females always prefer males who are darker skinned than they are

    I remember Sailer writing about that some 12 years ago. I think his point was that women are usually going to be a bit lighter than their close male relatives because they have more subcutaneous fat, which lightens the skin.

    — Nevermind G. Khan, Mao, Joe Stalin -the worst people in the history of the world are those who brought (and continue to bring) food and medicine to Africa

    I believe this to be the literal truth.

    — there are two advertisments. One is for Knott’s Berry Farm, and the other is for……..the NBA.

    That must be WordPress hinting that it’s time to upgrade to a pay version of the platform. (ads-free)

    For more LOLZ, Big Gay Steve (prolific commenter at VD’s) responded on Gab: “someone should let #MILO know what will happen when the food stamp cards run out.”

    All the above said, the post is a sympathetic speculation abut a Talented Tenth’s existential prospects. I am not otherwise concerned about another race’s destiny, so long as it dos not interfere with mine. I don’t think any one race is responsible for another. Whites need to get the hell out of “humanitarian” meddling, as well as remove others from our own lands.

  19. PA…

    I was referring to the professional African cannibals that bad, bad “Christians” plot to bring to our home.

  20. I know that’s what you meant. It was funny. Alternate name for the post — “The Talented Tenth vs The Talented Teeth” ? That summed things up nicely too:

    All that pictures says is, “white Supremacy.”

  21. “Out of America: A Black Man Confronts Africa.” — Keith Richburg

    I actually read this hatebook, too… At least one black dude isn’t in denial.

  22. Forgive me, PA, if I’m misreading your post, but CH’s original didn’t attempt to make any direct connection between central Africans and the very distant descendants of west Africans, who have virtually zero cultural contact with Africa but do have, on average, about a quarter European heritage (and a substantial amount of shared Western culture, to boot). CH was raising the question of whether importing folks that are clearly not culturally compatible is the Smart Choice. I’m not arguing against general racial differences among black and whites but even the Chicongoese aren’t displaying quite this level of brutality (which is not saying much).

    [I was giving Heartiste and his commentariat h/t credit for discovering that photo first. –PA]

    The topic you do raise though is something that’s not very popular, I imagine, with alt-righters and WNs, but the fact is a strong black middle class is a net good for America. When the bigger names in the Alt-Right like Ramzpaul and CH look to an 80s-era America that was 80% white or even the 50s (90% white), these are goalposts that implicitly accept a minority nonwhite — and eras in which the black middle class was much, much stronger than today.

    What the Talented Tenth (a hilariously offensive notion to modern lib ears) need to address include:

    – Dismantling the welfare state that discourages ambition and replaces Daddy/Hubby with Daddy/Hubby Gummint
    – Reversal of secularization (the end result of the schizo philosophy of multiculturalism)
    – Revival and emphasis on “pound cake” parenting
    – Bringing back social taboos towards casual sex
    – Attacking the social stigma of “acting white”
    – Refusal to settle for victim mentality
    – Promote “turning the other cheek” vs. escalating over any little slight
    – Tackling the massive trickle-down effect widespread fatherlessness has on black communities*

    *This last one has lasting, dramatic effects over the entire population. It’s partly an issue of personal responsibility, no doubt, but also the result of the huge number of nonviolent offenders currently being incarcerated–an absence deeply felt in their communities, where black children are as likely to meet a black man that hasn’t been to jail as they are Bigfoot. It’s not a popular choice (among the right-leaning) and I am completely anti-drug personally but I am A-OK with legalizing but (highly regulating) recreational drug use. Like with tobacco, social shaming goes a long way. Of course, as folks are discovering in decriminalized states, ‘legalization’ does not mean street dealing becomes legal, but the incentives to do so will largely evaporate, and the sentencing will far less severe.

    And to be fair, some of my very incomplete list could go for whites too, but that’s outside the scope of this topic (why I avoided discussing Latinos or other groups, and why little of this would apply outside of America).

  23. Nevermind G. Khan, Mao, Joe Stalin -the worst people in the history of the world are those who brought (and continue to bring) food and medicine to Africa.

    Yes. Feeding a man a fish vs. teaching him how to fish.

  24. “[B]ut the fact is a strong black middle class is a net good for America.” — Vanamee

    In no way is this self-evidently true ESPECIALLY recognizing that said “strength” MUST BE in submission to the anti-wS of the much more powerfully influential radical “black” collective. In fact, it could be argued that the mere existence of a strong, black middle class is the very obstacle to the decisive pre-emptive strike on the nigger collective.

  25. There will be no foreseeable shortage of “white” self-annihilators whipping themselves into a chimp-out in order to pimp out their last shred of self-worth in sacrifice to that nigger who just wigged out because Superman is a “white supremacist” and Boss Hogg gets to pig out…

  26. “We” can’t care about a black middle class. It is equal to imagining “our” death.

    Mr. Equality

  27. The real question is for those deracinated “Christian” mothered-cuckers and whether they have the balls to get the leg up on renouncing the alleged Christianity of these African cannibals?

  28. Thor, was the “Boss Hogg” you speak of above one and the same with the character from the early ’80s television show “Dukes of Hazzard?”

    Just curious.

  29. In fact, it could be argued that the mere existence of a strong, black middle class is the very obstacle to the decisive pre-emptive strike

    Whatever you’re referring to, then… sure, whatever. That’s unrelated to anything I’m discussing.

    As is, there is no ‘strong black middle class’ in America, certainly not meeting my list of suggestions. A move away the giant entitlement system, where blacks are actually invested into the system (free property-owning blacks could vote under the original Constitution) and the family unit is restored and respected, could only be an improvement on the current status quo. Hence, ‘net good’.

  30. Pinning any hopes on a “black middle class” is about as wise as hoping for a rainy summer in Las Vegas. Especially when we are importing so many low-skilled foreigners with better work ethic and demeanor.

    An alarming number of black males today simply never make it into the world of work… at all. The kind of jobs they are suited for are below them. In the old days the black males with rougher “interpersonal” skills could get into to trouble while young, then straighten out somewhat later when put into jobs like steel mills or manufacturing, where it wasn’t so important if you could’t get along with others or pass a drug/background check.

    And you’re wasting your time on the idea when blacks themselves don’t see the need to exude any sense of “middle class-ness” anymore – if they saw themselves that way they’d have the sense to know that mass immigration is a net loser for them in every way. Instead they are obsessing over #BLM or how many Oscar nominations they get while supporting the Democratic Party’s population replacement schemes.

  31. I would not describe the man who killed his girlfriend as pussywhipped. He would leave her the minute some other instant gratification came along. I doubt he did much for her, either. He just has low impulse control, and she got him angry by making him feel inferior. I do think she is partially responsible for her and her daughter’s death for dating someone like him in the first place.

  32. She is a Plain Jane. She had to settle more than she wanted to in regard to white men, so she decided to go black.

  33. I have honestly been having a bit of a hard time eating beef, pork and poultry since first taking in the picture that ran in this post. Pan-fried salmon tonight—— the third time since Easter Sunday.

  34. I’ll probably have something new up tomorrow morning so you won’t have to see that unappetizing photo at the top of the page.

  35. Lara…

    The book may sound good, but it reads like source material for all the modern zombie/slasher horror flicks. Even using the word “barbarians” to describe its “subjects” would indicate a seriously cucked-up mind.

  36. Auster once contrasted “barbarian” with “savage,” with the former having an honor code, while the latter did not.

  37. Cannibalism is still practiced in Africa. I think that is newsworthy.
    Someone on Very Smart Brothers said Ted Nugent’s visit to the White House is a slap in the face to all black people. I don’t get it. Why?

  38. Someone on Very Smart Brothers said Ted Nugent’s visit to the White House is a slap in the face to all black people. I don’t get it. Why?

    Nikcrit should be able to answer that… I’m sure he spends a lot of time over at VSB criticizing the excesses of pro-black bloggers.

  39. I’m sure he spends a lot of time over at VSB criticizing the excesses of pro-black bloggers.

    Actually, you may be more right than even yourself believes; I do comment on several black, sphere-aware blogs, and usually under a different handle than the one I use here. But most often it’s about sports-related stuff, though racial observations work their way in.

  40. My personal view is colored (no pun intended) by my current domicile, which I despise but for professional reasons must keep. My general view of blacks both American and African is fairly dim though the Africans are commonly on the surface at least more civil. I would posit this to the fact that we got the losers, in war. Racism is not so big in Africa for the obvious but tribalism is huge and we got the tribal losers, a large percentage of whom never stopped being losers. I would be interested to see a cross section of which tribes were enslaved and see if there were any correlation to present day performance. I have traveled fairly extensively in Africa (DOD) and found the people generally fairly pleasant, though I am aware of course of their stealing ways also and I am also commonly armed. Burundi worked well, though a depressingly large percentage are nothing more than kleptocracies where those on the bottom can quite literally starve to death. My view of The US: The underclass is becoming homogeneous, the ghetto population has exploded since Johnson’s “Great Society”, and there is more trouble on the horizon. I met a so called pleasant plutocrat black in prep school, and that is part of the reason I remember him, he was so rare, there is the occasional surprise where I feel like a jerk but the vast majority of East Coast blacks I have met have unimpressed.

  41. Blacks, the talented tenth included, will cling to whites for dear life – while simultaneously raging against “white racism.” This obvious contradiction bothers them not a bit. They are not like us in either thought or deed – they really are a different sort of critter.

    It is up to whites to separate from these people – they’ll never do it on their own. More fundamentally, we’ve got to stop thinking about them as if their destiny is ours to solve. It isn’t. Instead, they are only our problem in the sense that they damage our folk, and we must separate from them.

    Once this separation has been achieved – entirely, no exceptions for the so-called talented tenth – they can figure out on their own which direction they want to go. Never in my life has someone who could plausibly be considered a leader of the black community sought my advice or counsel as to how blacks should live. They don’t care about the opinions of whites.

    My guess is that some sort of religious theocracy would work best for them, with draconian punishments for those who violate society’s rules. But again, they aren’t consulting me or any other white person. Not my circus, not my monkeys…pun intended.

    Having said all of that, I’ll note that there are some genuinely high quality blacks. They are a tiny minority within a minority, far less than a tenth. In any event, it will be up to this tiny minority to assert itself when the time comes. Will they? The odds are against them, but I wish them well. If they consult us, we should advise them in good faith, but I won’t be holding my breath for that to happen.

    As always, my first loyalty – and my second, third & 99th loyalty – is to my own folk. Every people has to find its own destiny, and we must disentangle ours from theirs as soon as possible.

  42. — Not my circus, not my monkeys

    I am making it my mission to popularize that proverb.

    Nie mój cyrk, nie moje małpy.

  43. Separation is not good enough unless it is equipped with a desire to sustain said separation. This requires MORE than just “separation.” Sustained separation equals desire for objective Supremacy.

  44. — Separation is not good enough unless it is equipped with a desire to sustain said separation.

    That is an important “what have we learned” from this era. Separation will always be sustained as long as the following interests are kept out of power: (((they))), financial speculators, and ageing crones.

    BTW, I walked past the Stampede for Stupidity “March for Science” in DC on Friday afternoon to the perky voice of a female speaker chirping into the stage microphone “I am a scientist! we live in a dangerous anti-science time!” Indeed.

  45. It’s quite the realization to experience how abruptly alienated is the strict mulatto DUE his seemingly paradoxical INABILITY to conceive of a SEPARATION between the black and white races in MRKA.

    And then the “neat trick.”

    A strict mulatto who “transcends” any personally experienced alienation AND YET STILL CANNOT conceive of a separation between the black and white races.

    What’s the conclusion to be drawn?

    Only a super-minority of white men can honestly conceive of a separation between the black and white races AND THIS CONCEPTION is the very foundation of a transcending movement.

  46. what does a Mulatto father do about his light-skinned daughter gravitating to wild bucks? Answer: under patriarchy, whatever needs to be done.

    Kind wording to mean: whatever the daughter’s owners wants.

    Because Yeah That’s the main reason why one wants to be really cool. To have somebody else do what he wants, because yeah.

  47. It looks like Marine Le Pen has little chance to win the runoff in France in June although the National Front is making gains:

    The leading candidate Emanuel Macron is your typical globalist former Rotshchild banking cuck who is married to a woman 24 years older than him. WTF* ??

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/emmanuel-macron-romance-wife-24-years-senior-article-1.3094356

    Another big terrorist attack would be the only thing that gives Le Pen a chance to win.

  48. — The leading candidate Emanuel Macron is your typical globalist former Rotshchild banking cuck who is married to a woman 24 years older than him. WTF* ??

    Yeah, I read about that this morning. It was one of those teacher-student loves you read about here, invariably with the usually-cute teacher’s police mugshot. He was 15 at the time, his parents knew and moved him to another school, but she left her own family (husband and three children) and I think married the boy when he turned 18.

    Others have said that the age difference points to one thing: he’s gay.

  49. The Daily Stormer is taking a resigned stance on Trump, pointing to the possibility that he’s gotten an offer he can’t refuse, something that maybe happens to every well-intentioned new president. Andrew Anglin thinks that something happened in late March.

    The implications for France would be that a victorious LePen may well reneg on most of her promises, and end up cucking. On the other hand, Orban got into office as leader of a moderate party and has been governing to the right of his party’s original campaign.

  50. The Daily Stormer is taking a resigned stance on Trump, pointing to the possibility that he’s gotten an offer he can’t refuse, something that maybe happens to every well-intentioned new president.

    My general layman’s impression is that the current nationalism is anti-immivasion but that’s there’s no hard consensus beyond that, etc.

    Basically, conceding you’re much more informed on E.U. issues, let me ask this: What about a EU that focuses on economic unity but could allow for nationalistic sovereignty in terms of culture and style and also immigration sovereignty in terms of allotment and overall number? Or does EU economic elites demand immivasion pace?

    It’s my impression that Europeans of both sides want border control but that there’s genuine divide and uncertainty in terms of local-vs-national economic policy.

  51. It’s quite the realization to experience how abruptly alienated is the strict mulatto DUE his seemingly paradoxical INABILITY to conceive of a SEPARATION between the black and white races in MRKA.

    And then the “neat trick.”

    A strict mulatto who “transcends” any personally experienced alienation AND YET STILL CANNOT conceive of a separation between the black and white races.

    You’ve gone into this riff more than a half-dozen times in the last year but you never address my challenge that i say to you that black Americas cannot fully separate from European language, style, culture, tradition, IOW: ‘PEOPLE, because, in fact, they ARE European — to the tune of 20% to 30% of their aggregate beings; it is natural for them and their collective variance to be everything from indistinguishable from certain American and European whites to visually constrasting whites but sharing key language and other cultural attributes.

    You never address this fact.

    If someone suggested to you that assimilated and u.s. domesticated French should instill ‘separation’ from assimilated u.s.-domesticated Germans, y ou’d think such an enterprise to b e ridiculous, which it is.

    But your childishly vituperative and hastily assembled definition of black Americans makes sense to you, and I guess that is all that matters. IOW: we conceivably “COULD’ cloister among our hybrid selves in North America —- but to do so while cut off from Europeans is more or less cutting ourselves off from ourselves.

    Would those hypothetically Americanized Germans and Francs that I summoned above be able to ‘liberate without separation here on American shores?”

  52. — in fact, they ARE European — to the tune of 20% to 30% of their aggregate beings

    American blacks are not in any way European. They are a slightly diluted African race that, as evidenced by their spokesmen here, will never stop following Whites until we stop them.

  53. — What about a EU that focuses on economic unity but could allow for nationalistic sovereignty in terms of culture and style and also immigration sovereignty in terms of allotment and overall number?

    I don’t think economic unity is possible. Greeks and Germans are very different as producers and consumers. You can’t have the same currency and regulations on such a diverse continent without devolving to authoritarian methods. The migrant invasion of 2015 can be seen as a levelling measure.

  54. — in fact, they ARE European — to the tune of 20% to 30% of their aggregate beings

    Well, primates (including humans) share more than 99% of genes/chromosomes, right?

    But not the genes that actually matter.

  55. It’s hard to understand the politics of another country. I think Le Pen is the better candidate, but I don’t know much about France. That is odd to be married to a woman that much older. He might be gay, or maybe he just wants to be married to a mother figure.

  56. The Daily Stormer is taking a resigned stance on Trump, pointing to the possibility that he’s gotten an offer he can’t refuse, something that maybe happens to every well-intentioned new president. Andrew Anglin thinks that something happened in late March.

    I’m surprised by both this and Trump’s seemingly 180 on certain items he said he would handle.

    I’m still giving the man the benefit of the doubt–not fully jumping off the train, however I am starting to keep an eye out for the exits as they approach. It hasn’t been six months yet, those first 100 days had quite their share intrigue and depending on how you look at it, he either failed, or held serve and then some. I feel he’s done the latter.

    It seems most people were expecting a YUGE overhaul right from the get-go, something immediate and instantaneous, when that’s just foolish thinking.

    With regards to keeping DACA, so far it’s been Trump “saying” they’ll be safe, that they can just relax. That’s quite the general statement and if anything, quite the “politician” thing to say.

    It reminds me when a coach has been rumored to leave his current team and go someplace else and when questions, the coach says he’s committed to his current team and winning championships, etc. Then two weeks later, he’s announced as new coach of the team he’d been asked about earlier.

    One thing about I noticed the whole campaign (both from observation and certain choice posts at Le Chateau) was the ebb and flow of what Trump was saying, gauging reaction, adjusting (or so it seemed) and then doing something else.

    And that’s been the situation with his presidency.

    I’ll see where things stand after the 4th of July.

  57. Maybe the average French person’s life is not negatively affected by immigration at this point. They still get the best jobs.

  58. — I’ll see where things stand after the 4th of July.

    I’m refraining from serious commentary on Trump for the time being. But I can say some things with a measure of confidence: we are not escalating to a hot war with Russia, and the hammer on pro-White activism has been put away. Trump gave us a measure of peace, as Bill White put it back in October.

  59. Trump is in a lull right now. I don’t think it is a big deal. Immigration is a tough issue to deal with. He is up against a lot.

  60. Trump is becoming a politician, he’s got to help the party and the economic cause.

    As long as he doesn’t get cold feet and he presses his travel ban(s) all the way to the Supreme Court he’s doing his job for the alt right.

  61. The bolded “his” is the most succinct way of commenting on the purpose of the AltRight.

    I’ll add The Wall as Trump’s task. That is what he ran on, that is ultimately the measure by which he’ll be judged.

  62. American blacks are not in any way European. They are a slightly diluted African race \…..

    That is your emotional reaction to a genetic fact that you wish was not true.

    I, believing life is both empirical science AND transcending cultural folklore, believe in both the quantitative and qualitative viable components of ‘real life’ —– but for the sake of coherent discussion it must be acknowledged that African-Americans Are part of white European in the aggregate —– that, no matter how hard we shut our eyes, cover our ears and scream otherwise.

  63. One more word on black Americans and their cultural identity and genetic history: I’ve been to the west African countries of Ghana and Cameroon; there and in other African countries that routinely receive African-Americans as visitors, within both anecdotal and academic observations, it’s long been noted that most Africans consider African-Americans to be closer to white and in general ‘Americans’ than they do consider them one and the same with fellow black Africans; this was noted often by prominent black Americans who visited Africa, including Malcolm X and many lesser-known civil rights leaders…..in any case, when you say “diluted,” it’s only prudent to ask: “diluted with what?” and when you say that said dilution is “slight,” one might reply that “20% to 30%” is a measure that is more than ‘slight.’

  64. I have no idea why you’ve launched into this odd tangent. Africans diluted with European blood are not and never will be European. I have no interest in continuing this argument.

  65. it’s long been noted that most Africans consider African-Americans to be closer to white and in general ‘Americans’ than they do consider them one and the same with fellow black Africans;

    I don’t think those Africans who say that mean it as a compliment.

  66. it’s not a compliement; it’s an observation of a common perceptoin…. i’m just noting that aggregate American blacks are genetically 20%-30% European. End of discussion.

    Anyway, on the way back to a school from the Thai restaurant we went to for lunch, the local oldies-rock station, a “power-lunch” Journey ‘triple-pak” came one: “Don’t Stop Believing,”Wheel in the Sky” and “Who’s Crying Now?”

  67. Uh-oh, the teens are at it again. Those darn teens.

    According to a police officials, witnesses said 40 to 60 juveniles flooded the station, jumped the fare gates and rushed to the second-story train platform. Some of the robbers apparently held open the doors of a Dublin-bound train car while others streamed inside, confronting and robbing and in some cases beating riders.

    The juveniles “committed multiple strong-arm robberies of bags and cell phones,” said a police summary prepared after the incident. “At least two victims suffered head/facial injuries requiring medical attention.”

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/BART-takeover-robbery-50-to-60-teens-swarm-11094745.php

    “The images cannot be shared publicly, she said, because the suspects appear to be minors.”

    Oh, is that why?

    Someone should really do something about all these teens acting up. Teens these days!

  68. When mixing red and green, what you get is brown.

    Not red. Not green. Brown – something different.

    Mix a beagle with a labrador? You no longer have either a beagle or a labrador. Instead, you have something different – a mutt that no longer represents its parents in terms of physical appearance, ability, temperament or intelligence. It’s a different sort of critter.

    Mixing two different things has consequences – obviously. The idea that american blacks are Europeans is laughable.

    So, nik, I ask you: why is this so hard to understand? Do you also deny that 2+2=4 and that the sky is blue?

    But we know the real reason for this nonsense: you, like other blacks, are terrified to let go of us “evil racists.” You demand the right to feed off of us until the day we go extinct, and you’ll make the most absurd of claims to keep the scam/feeding frenzy/white genocide going. Sorry, dude, but we have other plans.

  69. Trump is becoming a politician, he’s got to help the party and the economic cause.

    Yeah is anyone honestly surprised that Trump is moving towards the center, like say… every president ever?

  70. like say… every president ever?

    One thing is unique in his case. Unlike with every presidential election in the past 150 years, the system genuinely opposed the candidate that went on to win.

    He’s either playing the long game toward fulfilling his promises, or he’s swarmed by opposing interests that require near-fatal compromises, he’s worn down, he was made an offer he can’t refuse, or he never meant any of that stuff he said about the Wall and destroying globalism.

  71. I dunno, Trickin. I guess the main questions we should ask is if American blacks consider themselves Europeans? Do they care about European culture and standards? Do they aspire to behave like Europeans?

    Besides you, of course.

  72. “The wall” has already done everything it needs to do even though it’s still just an idea – cut border incursions by 75%.

    Once more deportations keep getting pushed through that number will keep rising.

    At this point we may not even need a wall considering the cost, we just need a bigger force of ICE agents who are actually empowered to do their job. Also, just last week Trump send a letter to “sanctuary cities” telling them that certain funds can be withheld if they refuse to cooperate with ICE.

    All we need know is for Trump to cut the legs out from under the liberal judges holding up his exact orders/travel ban. But Trump has still already cut the number of refugees admitted by 60% and has instituted much more stringent vetting procedures.

  73. or he’s swarmed by opposing interests that require near-fatal compromises

    I think it’s this more than anything else you mentioned. It’s very difficult by constitutional design for a US president to govern from the far ends of the political spectrum. Remember when Obama was elected the Dem’s wanted to pass single payer health care but they couldn’t even get a public option rammed through Congress. They got bogged down by various competing lobbying factions and ended up with the ACA which was essentially an expansion of Medicaid and a package of health insurance regulations.

  74. So, nik, I ask you: why is this so hard to understand? Do you also deny that 2+2=4 and that the sky is blue?

    But we know the real reason for this nonsense: you, like other blacks, are terrified to let go of us “evil racists.” You demand the right to feed off of us until the day we go extinct, and you’ll make the most absurd of claims to keep the scam/feeding frenzy/white genocide going. Sorry, dude, but we have other plans.

    Look, your definition is ok by me; I’m not really claiming anything different than you —– except your definition is ungenerous and a bit vague because you don’t believe that people who harbor a hybrid of racial genetics are ‘European,’ (lthough i’m betting you have no problem associating mulattos with being ‘Africans’— but that too is beside the point.)

    I was saying that U.S. blacks on average have 20%-30% European blood. From there, in terms of casual semantics, I referred to such people as ‘part European.” And I contend that is not an outrageous conceit in terms of casual rhetoric, at all

    It is funny, though, that you say of me: “you, like other blacks,” but would take umbrage with someone who said to me: “you, like other whites,” because for the very reason you deny my white blood you apply monniker to my black blood.

    But even that is unnecessary, because I’m not seeking to morally scold you or even extend sanctimony toward your racial double standard. We’re just discussing it. And we’re able to do it in detail yet not f2f with racial confrontation thanks to a white-technology created communication field.

    So why the rank antagonism? Re-read again the italicized quote of yours as the start of this comment. Are you not putting antagonism and intent into what I said? When did I call you ‘evil racists?’ I don’t dislike whites nor blacks and consider myself in parts white and in parts black. End of discussion.

    (I, too, get tired of these ‘tangents.’ But I let these rank lies and assumptions go without rebuttal, they pop up weeks later in another form of accusal. I say ‘why bother with all that?” This very technological forum allows us to speak our minds with civil respect and rationality, so no need to project venality created out of thin air.

  75. was saying that U.S. blacks on average have 20%-30% European blood.

    Are you sure about that range? I’m not disputing it because I don’t know, but the figure I’ve seen in passing has consistently been 17%

  76. MGE,

    You work in a rather sophisticated of the health-care industry, if i remember correct. And you recently offered what i thought was a fairly detailed and knowledgeable ‘realpolitik’ about the ACA act and how feasible it was to attempt to rescind it at this late date, so let me just ask: Are you for the repeal of Obamacare? I’m wondering what you would do about it if czar for a day —— both in terms of your personal wishes and your consideration of how feasible such a task IRL America?

  77. Are you sure about that range?
    IDK. I think I pinched that figure from one of your recent, relatively new commenters. I’ve also ancedotally heard the phrase ‘one-quarter’ used a lot in defining aggregate afri-am admixture levels; that seems about right to me; urban public school districts are a veritable hybrid factory of NAM intermixture (though you’ll be relieved to know that white kids are probably now less than 10% of that genetic stew).

  78. Trickin, you may be zero percent black. In 6 years of commenting with you on various sites I haven’t seen you complain about police or any other personal, racially-based mistreatment/micro-aggression even one single time.

  79. A strict mulatto who “transcends” any personally experienced alienation AND YET STILL CANNOT conceive of a separation between the black and white races. — thordaddy

    Far from being a lie, this is, for all that can be gathered here, exactly your state of being, Nikcrit.

    So you are above the white/black racial divide ALMOST AS IF you cannot even conceive of its very existence. And yet, you do see it BECAUSE you also believe your state of mulatto possesses you with such unique perspective. Although, it is clear that you do not see the divide clearly EXACTLY BECAUSE you are a strict mulatto.

    So again, I repeat, you cannot envision a separation of the black and white races. So you oh-so-subtly IMPLY AND ENFORCE a consanguinity that is self-evidently deleterious to the white race. And apparently you are unaware of this, but no race realist worth his salt could possibly believe you.

  80. The bulk of mulattoes are still first generational. That such collective is, in my experience, most “designed” to mental malfunction upon recognizing the glaring reality of a white/black divide is race realist realization #2. The reality of a mulatto’s “social explosion” only has a common sense origin in the fact of his “pro-created” identity crisis.

  81. So again, I repeat, you cannot envision a separation of the black and white races.

    No, I cannot because of your incredibly childlike, self-serving definition of the race and of ‘separation.’

    You never, ever answer that question, so i suggest we drop it.

  82. Your race is your father…

    Your separation is psychological…

    The Lord implores “us” to be like children again…

    A halfrican “superman” just does not understand.

    So he is really wholly African.

  83. Nikcrit…

    Either your black father and white mother KNEW IN ADVANCE that they were going to conceive a “mulatto” or they did not? You and your lived experienced as expressed here and elsewhere would leave the veteran race realist to conclude that most likely your parents knew EXACTLY what they were conceiving… A “mulatto” who could “transcend” the white/black divide. And there is every reason to believe that IN YOUR CASE they were wildly successful beyond any expectation.

    BUT…

    You are an anomaly IMHO…

    And not because you have “transcended” the white/black divide so certainly that you cannot even recognize “its” existence… But because you adamantly maintain HERE AT A RACE REALIST BLOG the idea of no legitimately existing white/black divide.

    Yet your parents were/are the very white/black divide meant to be “transcended” through your existence.

    So perhaps all the above has never ran through your mind until now?

    Hence, you are in a state of “radical autonomy.”

  84. But because you adamantly maintain HERE AT A RACE REALIST BLOG the idea of no legitimately existing white/black divide.

    I do no such thing; i’ve contradicted that claim above through just about every post i’ve ever made here, at 28sherman, GL Piggy and OneSTDV and Guy White. Just drop that shite now..

    But I do have a question for you Thor: Do you Fear the Deer?

  85. Most mulattoes come to realize that they must make a choice? Most mulattoes make the wrong choice. Mulattoes exist generally as “first generational.” A perpetuating collective of “first generationals” IS self-annihilation. Mulattoes generally exist in a state of self-annihilation with their individual “white self” dying over time.

    You are here struggling against this historic tendency, Nikcrit.

  86. Nickrit…

    I don’t know what “fear the deer” means?

    But…

    You EXPLICITLY ACKNOWLEDGE the reality of a LEGITIMATE white/black divide…

    And SO YOU CONCEIVE of a white/black separation*…

    To which you say that you CANNOT CONCEIVE…

    Because of my ” incredibly childlike, self-serving definition of the race and of ‘separation.'”

    So give “us” your adult definitions of “race” and “separation” will will run congruent to your explicit recognition of a legitimate white/black divide.

    I mean, if a psychological separation from the “black” man is not legitimate right of each and every white man then it’s all out WAR.

  87. nik: “I referred to such people as ‘part European.”

    Dude, obviously mulattoes are “part European.” Part European is not the same as being European, anymore than a mutt is a beagle or a labrador.

    nik: “you deny my white blood”

    Who is denying your white blood? Mulattoes, by definition, have a substantial amount of white blood. Again, this doesn’t make them European. A running theme in your comments is an attempt to undermine white identity, all the while feigning sympathy. Such is the strategy of the mulatto.

    nik: “Are you not putting antagonism and intent into what I said?”

    Yes, I am. That’s because your position, the entire basis upon which you argue, is inherently antagonistic toward white interests.

  88. “pointing to the possibility that he’s gotten an offer he can’t refuse, something that maybe happens to every well-intentioned new president”

    It certainly seems that way. What do you think it could be? Jews could threaten to cause economic havoc and blame it on Trump. That’s basically why nobody was punished for the housing crash.

    Or it could be something as simple as blackmail. I’m sure any intelligence service could dig up mountains of embarrassing (or worse) personal information.

  89. One reason why these exchanges are worthwhile is that whites must develop a clear understanding of who “we” are. Otherwise, our cause is hopeless. There will be innumerable swarthoids & mystery meats that will attempt to blur the lines, so as to continue the feeding frenzy/white genocide. Better we clear these issues up now rather than later.

    Tribes require boundaries – get the boundaries wrong, and the war is lost before it begins. Can you imagine a future white homeland that allows mulattoes free rein to strut around and chase white women? Such a “tribe” would immediately forfeit all legitimacy, and our cause fritter itself away into irrelevance.

  90. Nikcrit is right that European Americans are different than Europeans and African Americans are different than Africans. Nikcrit having an ambiguous racial identity is to his advantage. He knows that.

  91. — What do you think it could be?

    Nothing comes to mind. I consider the obvious things to be improbable but I’m duly listing them:

    At his age and with his ambitions of greatness, mere threats to his life would be something he’d say “hit me with your best shot” to. Threats against his family could have been done during the campaign; less messy to bluff or carry it out on a candidate than a sitting president. In fact I wondered why they didn’t go for that, and figured that he has his own dirty tricks to retaliate with, maybe mob or foreign intelligence connections.

    I rule out blackmail for two reasons: I doubt he’d have gone into the campaign with damning skeletons in his closet, and it would take more than a mere affair or embarrassing video to blackmail a twice-divorced pussy-grabbing playboy who had spent most of his adult life in the public eye. I suppose they could have fabricated something.

    One reason why these exchanges are worthwhile is that whites must develop a clear understanding of who “we” are. Otherwise, our cause is hopeless.

    That is true. Personally, I find talk of race diminishing, but this is a race-article, so it’s not in a wrong place. That, and it is the problem of our time.

    The one-drop rule is the ultimate safeguard of our race, given a world in which 90% of people are non-White. We also have violence. Absent an anti-White police state, it’s quite rare for women to stray, and when they do, even more rare for them to bring their fuck-trophies into White community.

    You’re right that we better clear these issues up now rather than later. A big part of that is knocking down the various kinds of sophistry that eat away on our racial integrity. Example: “why can’t we have your trash?!” — something every nigger in these types of conversations has said. In other words, why can’t Whites turn a blind eye on a willing omega-female who’d rather get a fit buck instead of the dregs-male she’d merit among White men? Wouldn’t that be a win-win-win: the female gets what she wants, the negro gets what he wants and we don’t consider anything of value to have been lost?

    And because we had these figuring-out discussion, we know better than to let a blacks have our trash: sexual ecosystem disruption with upward reverberations. When women have a “scab”-option male partner available, they will take it rather than put in the work to be attractive to her own men.

  92. — One reason why these exchanges are worthwhile is that whites must develop a clear understanding of who “we” are. Otherwise, our cause is hopeless.

    If whites have to define themselves they are already in danger and under duress.

    Do whites in Iceland or Finland need to stop and “figure out who they are”? No. It’s still their country and they haven’t muddied it up with other downscale people who not only aren’t white, but have no ability to assimilate or live by European standards.

  93. — Do whites in Iceland or Finland need to stop and “figure out who they are”? No

    Complacency is our enemy, especially when perverse “virtue”-signalling is the prevailing memetic virus, and powerful organizations are facilitating the transport of non-Whites to every clean place on the planet. A staggering percentage of Icelandic households volunteered to host migrants, should they be shipped to their country.

    We are, in fact, threatened and under duress. It’s not normal to live the way Westerners in the past several decades had been living. Even if you disagree with the following assertion — that Whites are marked for genocide through habitat-loss and mixing — if it looks like a duck…

  94. — “figure out who they are”

    I have a post hopefully posted tomorrow that covers that tangent. It’s amazing how easy it is to fire off strings of long and sometimes interesting comments, and how friggin laborious it is to write a post…

  95. To talk of patriarchy and not understand “your race is your father” is evidence of “radical autonomy.”

    To acknowledge a legitimate white/black divide while unable to conceive a separation of the white and black races is evidence of “radical autonomy.”

    A mulatto is explicit evidence of “radical sexual autonomy.”

    A childless, unmarried, middle-to-upper middle class 40-something mulatto is evidence of “radical autonomy.”

    And “fear of the deer” (assuming this means fear of my daughters miscegenation with “wild bucks”) is a phrase used by the radical sexual autonomist in the conduct of a war of racial annihilation.

    In reality, it is more a preconceived disgust… A foreshadowaed recognition of failure… An ALREADY SENSATE heartbreaking tragedy… It’s a pitiful ending inso many ways before a white female life has even begun.

    The true nigger ONLY WISHES it were “fear.”

    [I figured “fear the deer” was a reference to some upcoming sports game… regardless, a powerful second-to-last paragraph, Thordaddy. — PA]

  96. The racial war is fought by spirited whites amongst a dispirited mass of degenerates of all colors. But niggers are demons, by definition, in this racial upheaval. And “jewhite” self-annihilators a dominating reality too horrific for most dulled minds to contemplate.

    The “operating system” of the modern West is a perpetuating self-annihilation with the “nigger” and “jewhite” self-annihilator being the mechanisms of symbolic extremes. Each exist ONLY BECAUSE the other also exists. Theirs is a symbiotic regression… An “infinite regress.”

    If one is eradicated, the other one is annihilated.

  97. No individual white boy or girl is actually under the burden of defining the “white race” with utter explicitness ONLY TO BE TOLD that “race” isn’t real anyways. AS veteran RACE-REALISTS, it is a GIVEN that race is real so the question is, “What is YOUR race?” And the answer is, “My father.”

    At this juncture, “anti-racism” is ABSOLUTELY DEFINED as “against the father.” “Anti-racism” a practiced in the West is, literally, “against the white father.”

    THIS IS JUST THE STARTING POINT FOR a white-pilled race realist.

    TO BE AGAINST THE white father is to DEMAND WAR with the white father.

    It is NOW all out war against the white father.

    And the true nigger goes for our daughters.

  98. Nikcrit having an ambiguous racial identity is to his advantage. He knows that.

    Traditionally and historically, and in most cases throughout the ages, being a mulatto is not an advantage; rather it is a marked disadvantage.

    However, certainly there are circumstances and situations, in history and in our present tense, where it might be construed and considered, as an advantage.

    Whether or not it actually is an advantage, remains to be seen.

  99. It’s amazing how easy it is to fire off strings of long and sometimes interesting comments, and how friggin laborious it is to write a post…

    This is not the first time we have heard.

    [I am duly chastened for whining (no sarc) but I reserve the right to be repetitive on a handful of subjects — PA]

  100. Are you for the repeal of Obamacare? I’m wondering what you would do about it if czar for a day —— both in terms of your personal wishes and your consideration of how feasible such a task IRL America?

    I can’t believe Paul Ryan thought it would be a good idea for Trump to wade into the healthcare tar baby in the first 100 days, especially behind that jerry rigged bill no one seemed to like. It wasn’t “repeal and replace,” it was just more nibbling around the edges with regulations that would certainly prove unpopular with vast swaths of the electorate.

    Health insurance in this country is a misnomer. Insurance is using a shared risk pool to cover unexpected expenses, like your house burning down or a car accident. Insurance is not used to install a new roof or change your oil. Therefore, it is more accurate to think of the debate in this country in terms of “health care benefits”, i.e. who gets what and who pays for it. If you are employed then your healthcare benefit costs are shared between you and your employer. If you are on Medicaid or Medicare, the taxpayer is paying for your benefits. The way in which these public benefits are currently apportioned is completely illogical, unfair, incentivizes all the wrong things, and introduces all sorts of cost distortions that would not exist on the free market.

    I personally use health insurance as it is intended: a high deductible plan paired with a health savings account. Since I never use the healthcare system, I don’t want to pay into it, essentially subsidizing other people. This keeps my premiums very low and I can pocket the savings in an HSA, which stays with me my entire life. When I am older and sicker and actually need healthcare, I will have a tax free nest egg to pay for it. I think this is the ideal, most cost effective way for the majority of people to consume healthcare, however I understand that people who are unable to make it through the month without using a payday loan to buy their cigarettes and xbox live membership are unlikely to have the discipline to manage their health in this way, so we have to find a way to take care of them while still holding them accountable in some way.

    My ideal system would balance universal access with personal accountability. The Singaporean system I believe as close to perfect as it gets. Ross Douthat described it in a recent column:

    There is Singapore, whose health care system is the marvel of the wealthy world. Singaporeans pay for much of their own care out of their own pockets, and their major insurance program is designed to cover long-term illnesses and prolonged hospitalizations, not routine care. The combination has produced genuinely extraordinary results: The island state has excellent health outcomes while spending, as of 2014, just 5 percent of G.D.P. on health care. (By comparison, a typical Western European country that year spent around 10 percent; the United States spent 17 percent.)

    First, Singaporeans do not spend money voluntarily saved in health-savings accounts. Under their Medisave program, they spend money saved in mandatory health-savings accounts, to which employers contribute as well. Second, their catastrophic insurance doesn’t come from a bevy of competing health insurance companies, but from a government-run single-payer system, MediShield. And then the government maintains a further safety net, Medifund, for patients who can’t cover their bills, while topping off Medisave accounts for poorer, older Singaporeans, and maintaining other supplemental programs as well.

    But if I could truly be healthcare czar for a day and supersede all established bioethical norms, I would make access to public assistance contingent on using long term birth control. I think this would solve many of our social problems in a generation or two.

  101. Thor: Theirs is a symbiotic regression… An “infinite regress.”

    And your particular hangup and dilemma is you cannot conceive of a “modern western operating system” that manifests beyond a ‘infinite regress’ of racial score settling. You don’t see it: you designate yourself as meta caste-establisher, and then you disdain those who protest and abstain from being your ethnic gruel. It’s sort-of hilarious, if you look at it as a founding identity conceit for a philosophical exercise. But you put it forth as an evident truth!

    I figured “fear the deer” was a reference to some upcoming sports game…

    Yes, I apologize for being a bit obtuse there; that was sort-of a winking joke to Camlost. But there is something amusing about Thordog even interpreting that bit of goofball esoteria as a miscegenation joust, his most innermost dread. Oh well, if it’s any conciliation, my deer were quickly slain last night.

  102. Thor: Theirs is a symbiotic regression… An “infinite regress.”

    And your particular hangup and dilemma is you cannot conceive of a “modern western operating system” that manifests beyond a ‘infinite regress’ of racial score settling. You don’t see it: you designate yourself as meta caste-establisher, and then you disdain those who protest and abstain from being your ethnic gruel. It’s sort-of hilarious, if you look at it as a founding identity conceit for a philosophical exercise. But you put it forth as an evident truth!

    That is a good summary.

    But as I see it, it still and always will boil down to that:

    Two sub-species cannot live in the same habitat and compete without one winning and the other losing. Or alternative, they merge together.

    In nature which is the world we live in, I don’t think that there can be a stasis between two separate groups that are in competition within a shared living space.

    Though it is an interesting question, of how much stasis can be maintained, between two such groups in that situation.

    If our scientists were not so (((politicized))) they might could look into it for us.

  103. Good post on health care, MGE.

    I try not to think about such things, and am fortunate to have good health and good insurance for when things go bad.

    My family lives to be 90. Today Robert Pirsig passed away at the age of 88.

    I expect to live to that age, and to have good health until 75 or 80.

    Though nothing is a given.

    In any case, the point about health CARE being mistaken or covered under the topic of health INSURANCE is a good way to look at it.

  104. Make America Singapore

    According to the great Fareed Zakaria, the USA can also look at multi-ethnic Singapore as a model to solve all of our problems with race relations:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/from-singapore-lessons-in-harmony-and-diversity/2015/06/25/86fcbfa2-1b72-11e5-93b7-5eddc056ad8a_story.html?utm_term=.330f5e596a75

    No need to mention that Singapore keeps order by jailing people for jaywalking or spitting on the sidewalk, and gives death sentences for drug trafficking.

  105. A childless, unmarried, middle-to-upper middle class 40-something mulatto is evidence of “radical autonomy.”

    There’s truth in there but it’s quite a bit more complicated than that. One form of ‘self-annihilation’ is going through a period in which, afterward, you don’t know for sure if you are indeed ‘childless.’

  106. MGE,
    Thanks for the long, detailed reply; i actually feel i have a workable grasp of how things work (and don’t work) on avg national basis after reading your comment today and the long one re. healthcare you wrote several weeks ago. If ever there was a multi-faced monster of a poltiical issue, it’s national healthcare. The coverage i have as a state employee is great compared to my options as a journo at a fairly major daily; still, many of my more veteran colleagues pine for the ‘good ol’ days,’ in which for the grand sum of $5 per month that got unlimited, no-deductible dental and medical coverage. Something tells me those days are history.

  107. Yes, that was an excellent explanation. I also recall Gingrich’s 1994 Contract With America movement pushing for the capping of malpractice suit awards, with that having been identified as a key driver of high costs.

  108. And “fear of the deer” (assuming this means fear of my daughters miscegenation with “wild bucks”) is a phrase used by the radical sexual autonomist in the conduct of a war of racial annihilation.

    Along with your pure and obsession-inspired misinterpretation of ‘Fear the Deer’ is also a sign of your supreme bad faith in insulting me by suppositioning that I would so crudely taunt you as a father concerned with your daughter’s sexual habits and health; i.e., what about me and our blog interactions over the years would lead you to believe i would taunt you and your daughters in such a tacky and gratuitous way? Thor: ” (assuming this means fear of my daughters miscegenation with “wild bucks”) “Fuk u, dude; when do I treat fellow commenters like that? Adversarial or not?

  109. MGE said the healthcare system incentivizes the wrong things. I think having good health would is a huge incentive on its own. I’m not sure how a healthcare system would further incentivize that. Health conscious people want to be healthy no matter what.

  110. Nikcrit…

    I neither argue in “bad faith” nor am I unable to conceive of a “modern operating system” that goes beyond an “infinite regress.”

    You used a phrase “fear the deer” that I have never heard before. YOU STILL HAVE NOT DEFINED exactly what you were referring to when you asked if I “fear the deer?” You were given an out in the manner of tying the phrase to niggerball, but then your question is nonsensical. I took a stab at the phrase MAKING AN ASSUMPTION given the context of the discussion AND “we” are still no closer to actually knowing what you were asking by asking me if i “fear the deer?”

    As for an “operating system” that goes beyond General Entropy, i.e., “infinite regress,” and what the vast majority of high IQ self-annihilators believe to be the highest reality, I posit the Truth of Perfection and a white man in possession of God-ordained free will. In this reality, man CAN STRIVE TOWARDS objective Supremacy. But clearly, most do not, yet, such (t)ruth makes the concept of “infinite regress” no more real. In other words, YOU can choose to be an all-out degenerate AND SUCH CHOICE WILL STILL ONLY GO TO PROVE (P)erfection as the highest reality.

    So you are wrong and corrupted in all your accounts of dispute.

  111. So in fact, Nikcrit, yours was not a “good summary” at all as Elk has alluded. To claim that I “disdain” those who “protest” AND “abstain” from a (R)acial (R)eality that I only have an infinitesimal “hand” in creating is to obscure the finest point.

    YOU ARE TOO SMART to “protest” and “abstain” from the (R)acial (R)eality SO MUCH SO that your “protest” and “abstain[ing]” IS MERELY COVER-UP for a self-annihilating desire.

    You are incredibly conflicted over the future course of your racially-incarnated self and so your defense mechanism is to drop the entire reality of a “future course of my racially-incarnated self.”

    Buttjew just “no” this ^^^ requires a “white supremacist” to be lurking everywhere as your antagonistic foil.

    Yet… It’s only “thordaddy.”

  112. In principle, one cannot best a white Supremacist, only kill him or run parallel to him. The modern self-annihilator just kills himself as a “third way.”

  113. Nikcrit…

    You are part of the “talented tenth,” but WILL NOT rise” to the level of “talented teeth” BECAUSE you are, ultimately, self-cannibalizing. In perpetual dis-ease, one tends towards eating at himself. This is THE MODERN REALITY. The “culture of critique” IS NOW INWARDLY pathological. The antidote IS NOT to smash all critique and the measly agents behind their propagation, but rather, a self-willed desire for the Truth of Perfection. Because a perfect critique is still Perfection and therefore EXACTLY what is necessary to thwart a desire to self-cannibalize by inverting the normal nature of the “talented teeth.”

  114. Nikcrit…

    You are racially-incarnated, period.

    Whether you are in possession of God-ordained free will is a whole other question?

    And the realness of (R)acial (R)eality IS THE GIVEN GROUND of all modern relativist communications.

    But the only truly unifying concept is the Truth of Perfection…

    And white men who unify under such pretense are God’s worldly soldiers.

    And HBD!

  115. How powerful is the Logos in the conducting of a counter-psychological war? What does the anti-Logos read like?

    “Abortion is a reproductive right?”

    “Islam is the religion of peace?”

    “Gay man?”

    “Murderous white (s)upremacist?”

    “Jewish (S)upremacist?”

    “Liberal Christian?”

    “n—-r?”

    “Diversity is our strength?”

    “Pre-emptive strikes are anti-Christian?”

    “Female bishops?”

    “Equal progress?”

    “Tolerance and nondiscrimination?”

    All these “things” read as rebellion against Perfection and utilize the language of anti-Logos to convey such reality.

    The solution is rather self-explanatory.

    Do *you* possess God-ordained free will AND thus the inherent capability to wield the Logos to regenerate End?

  116. A “mulatto” is an inherently unstable dis-position from an articulated racial certainty…

    But…

    Such racially-incarnated dis-position WAS NOT originally self-inflicted.

    This reality ^^^ NECESSITATES and MUST GRANT a personal resolution.

    But not ALL PERSONAL RESOLUTIONS are equal per The First Law of Perfection.

    There IS The Perfect Personal Resolution to the unstable state of “mulatto” and the only resolution that shall be GRANTED per The First Law of Perfection.

    What is “it,” Nikcrit?

    What is your perfect personal resolution to your state of “mulatto?”

  117. Your race is your father per Patriarchy and anti-“anti-racism…”

    And you are free to run parallel to the genuine white Supremacist…

    This is the answer to “halfrican superman syndrome.”

  118. lara: “Nikcrit is right that European Americans are different than Europeans and African Americans are different than Africans.”

    You’re falling for nik’s dishonest conflation. There are many European ethnic groups, both in Europe proper and in the diaspora. European Americans are such an ethnic group (arguably several ethnic groups). But we are all part of the broader family of European peoples, and will remain so for as long as we avoid racial admixture at scale.

    In contrast, Nik is correct as to the difference between American blacks and Africans. American blacks do indeed have a significant portion of non-black blood, creating a substantive racial gap with more pure African populations. Despite this gap, it’s obvious that American blacks are predominantly African, and I think everyone on both sides of the Atlantic recognizes this. In any event, how closely they identity with one another is up to them. They don’t require our permission (nor do we require theirs).

    lara: “Nikcrit having an ambiguous racial identity is to his advantage. He knows that”

    Sure, it’s an advantage under the current anti-white system, but would be a terrible disadvantage in the context of resurgent white identity and the end of white genocide. Nikcrit has a vested interest in seeing the current system perpetuated. He knows this, and always works to undermine white identity while feigning sympathy. Our ancestors did not trust mulattoes for this very reason, and they were absolutely correct in that assessment. For that matter, pure blacks don’t trust mulattoes either. Again, for good reason. The mulatto is inherently untrustworthy.

  119. Thor, you’re out of you freakin’ mind, man; get a GD grip.

    TraInspotter, the last two or so times we’ve gone at it we seem to be talking past each other.

    Let me just say this with the understanding that you likely disagree and would dissent: You show bad faith and seem to lack a sense of occasion in that you don’t care to really gauge who you’re speaking. IOW: you’re setting me up as some sorta liberal anti-racist strawman, as defined here and at similar blogs. I’ve said here numerous times that i like, value and respect whites; in no way whatsoever am I down with the cause of ‘white genocide.’ You yourself speak from both sides of your mouth in your over-heated criticism of me, at times claiming i’m down with said genocide, yet at other times claiming i’m one of those vampirish anti-racist NAMs who want to suck blood and other resources dry from said whites. So which is it? The woman I love most on this planet happens to be white: My mother.
    I think you probably know all this, so i’m probably taking the bait and being a bit naive by reacting this strongly to your diatribes. You may find galling the spectre of me offering you unasked-for advice, but I would suggest you don’t turn every single NAM or so-called lib or whatever adversarial figment into some cartoonish strawman that you blow down over-and-over-and-over; I for one am not going to defend myself from ridiculous accusations of contempt toward people I, in fact, don’t dislike at all. IOW: you presume too much and need to get out and meet some more varied temperaments; quit preaching to the like-minded choir of equally disgruntled lager louts. It’s boring as fuck….. btw: did you see the Trainspotter sequel yet? I’m guessing it’s out by now.

  120. Trickin, you may be zero percent black. In 6 years of commenting with you on various sites I haven’t seen you complain about police or any other personal, racially-based mistreatment/micro-aggression even one single time.

    Not my style, man; I don’t like to give these characters here who like to play “Team White” pattycakes with each other, covering each other’s lies, something to hold over me. The halfrican is his own man; the perceptual missing link! 🙂

  121. To totally change the topic.

    At CH recently appeared this cinematic comment by a Saracen III:

    “It’s like a different Trump”

    I believe that Trump has been suborned.

    Most likely scenario:
    In briefing in a secure conference room, DT is introduced to an attractive women who bears strong resemblance to Ivanka. She is killed swiftly, messily and without warning, and no-one else in the room shows surprise. As fast as it happens the scene is cleaned up and the briefing continues without missing a beat. For maximum effect the killer would be on Ivanka’s protection detail.

    “Beautiful baby” in his Syria strike speech was coded agreement of obedience. He has looked like shit ever since.

    That level of brutality intrigue and blackball conspiracy has been the norm since the beginning of forever, and so how unlikely is it any different now?

    As far as the conceived scenario, would the lookalike have been dispatched with a gun or a knife, or worse? and do they have specially vetted conscious-less psychos willing to kill complete innocents for no reason whatsoever other than orders?

  122. Nik, you have a vested interest in perpetuating the existing system, as do other mixed-race types. The same system that is killing us is quite good for you. Pointing this out is fair and accurate, not overheated.

  123. Nikcrit… Who do you honestly prophesize authoring The Great Counter-Narrative IF NOT the craziest of white Supremacists? A measly alt-writer?

  124. “It’s like a different Trump”

    I believe that Trump has been suborned.

    I can’t keep up with all of the conspiracy theories on the alt right.

    IMO, the easier answer is Trump is simply realizing what every idealistic American political outsider discovers when they get rocketed into office on momentous, fanciful promises to shake things to the radical core – it just can’t happen that way, and changes are gradual in our type of representative republic. And you need a party behind you to get things done, and they have mundane, everyday pressures from their constituencies.

    And he’s 70 years old, he’s surely losing his stomach to “thumb wrestle” over a bunch of small items, anyway.

    Either way, part of his importance isn’t in what he actually accomplishes in regards to legislation – it’s forcing the hand and unmasking the anti-white forces in the country and pushing them to their last throw – while whites still have favorable electoral numbers.

    Put all the rats in one trap.

    Let’s not forget that even Obama’s liberal craziness came mostly in his 2nd term – yapping about Ferguson, tranny bathroom laws in schools, excessive police scrutiny, Al Sharpton to the White House 125 times per year, etc.

    As of the 2008 election Obama hadn’t even come out for gay marriage yet, he was still maintaining his temporary lie that its defined as “only between a man and a woman.”

  125. ” It’s amazing how easy it is to fire off strings of long and sometimes interesting comments, and how friggin laborious it is to write a post…”

    Oh, the things one could do if only one had the commission to do them! But you manage to do a great job nonetheless.

    The greatest existential body-blow from “the new Trump” is the realization that the man who attacked Syria can’t really be a man who is prepared to prosecute Hillary or p&dogate. Based on his 2013 tweets, he HAS to have skepticism about Assad’s supposed genocidal inhumanity. Based on his debate performance/NYC background/the simple fact of the photos on Iloveenfants’ instagram, he SURELY realizes there’s something afoot and foul.

    Still, I’ve resigned myself to the idea there’s no Zapruder Redux screening. Watching some recent Addresses, Trump in fact is still working a pretty fiery brand of populism, and I think it’s reasonable to hold that his restraint on DACA is strategic, given the coalburning Ayn Rand bozo he’s stuck with as Speaker of the House.

    But he needs to shut off the refugee spigot, period. And it really is time to put Ivanka out. It’s inappropriate and maudlin, and if he’s using her as a symbolic screen to court womenz voters, it’s making some of his core supporters retch.

  126. –and darling boy-girl wonder “nancy may” commenting here too! with all that lovingly argued, long-con bilge–it’s like Paul Ryan in a schoolgirl blouse. What would we do without such a hard-hitting intellectual to crunch the numbers and give us such solidly-reasoned input?

    Why, I’m tempted to say that nancymay and Caligula are the “only two independent thinkers in the Alt-Right”–indeed, I’m tempted to predict they’ll bestow this compliment upon one another soon–but it’s the funniest thing, I could swear I’ve heard that schtick before . . . .

    Mr PAeartz, you’re on Hasbara’s mashnote list! SO jelly!!!

  127. ‘As of the 2008 election Obama hadn’t even come out for gay marriage yet, he was still maintaining his temporary lie that its defined as “only between a man and a woman.”’

    –am I wrong, or didn’t he even campaign in 2012 that marriage was only between a man and a woman?

    And speaking of liberal insanity, Sandy Hook came on the heels of his reelection too. “My name is Robbie Parker . . . .”

  128. –am I wrong, or didn’t he even campaign in 2012 that marriage was only between a man and a woman?

    At onset of the 2012 campaign Obama finally came out (fully) in favor of gay marriage. (for the 3rd time) You can bet that was after a considerable amount of focus groups and social media analysis, with a lot of data crunchers and pollsters getting paid big bucks $$ to determine how that position could change his chances vis-a-vis each on the likely slate of GOP candidates.

    It wasn’t mentioned much in that particular campaign, though. Obama knew that all he had to do was stay noticeably to the left of the spineless cuck Romney on that issue and all was fine.

    As soon as Hillary quit as Secretary of State she started yapping about full gay marriage (for the 1st time) as her own pollsters and hipster data nerds surely told her that it was safe to do so and since she basically started campaigning 2.5 years early.

  129. Among White advocates — Can a black man or even (especially) a mulatto, ever be anything other than a straw man?

    Yes, I suppose that is a rather good if obvious point. Still, all that straw-manning is tired—– and I say distinctly unnecessary in our 21st-century communicative technocracy; nuanced yet indirect communication with our social ‘others’ is now a humdrum norm; no need to caricaturize or even diminish in other traditional ways those we really don’t prefer; we can gather intimate knowledge from afar. It’s my hunch that one learns that much of their past straw-manning served only that person’s own vanity and other conceits.

  130. [W]e can gather intimate knowledge from afar — Nikcrit

    ONLY IF “we” is in possession of God-ordained free will. Otherwise, you are UNWILLINGLY manifesting straw-fantasies. Demonically-possessed, perhaps?

  131. What exactly is the mechanism for gathering intimate knowledge from afar, Nikcrit? And how does purposefully-propagated falsehood play into thwarting the efficacy of this most magical of modern mechanisms?

  132. There is no more reason to believe that the internet was designed to distribute intimate knowledge to all “corners” of the globe than there is to believe that Intimacy itself was designed to move far and abroad.

  133. The enemies of white Supremacy STILL SPEAK the language of God-ordained free will. The late Mr. Auster let “us” in on this slight-of-tongue. “Our” choice is two-fold. Either bolster and emphasize the use of this SPIRITED LANGUAGE to demonize the enemy OR strip and lay bare the enemy for his ILLCIT USE of the Logos.

    After the white pill…

    Both actions converge in the conducting of a white Supremacist’s psychological war.

  134. many of my more veteran colleagues pine for the ‘good ol’ days,’ in which for the grand sum of $5 per month that got unlimited, no-deductible dental and medical coverage. Something tells me those days are history.

    Yeah Obamacare was classic high-low vs. middle legislation.
    The insurance and drug companies and other corporate interests got what they wanted. The layabout lumpenproles got free healthcare in the Medicaid expansion. And the middle class got stuck with the bill.

    I think having good health would is a huge incentive on its own. I’m not sure how a healthcare system would further incentivize that. Health conscious people want to be healthy no matter what.

    To clarify – I meant the system incentivizes inefficient healthcare delivery on the provider end rather than the consumer end (though the latter is true as well). Our current system favors expensive high tech interventions over long term prevention. For instance, it is much cheaper to prevent heart disease using inexpensive generic medications and lifestyle modifications than it is to perform a quadruple bypass when the coronary arteries are already clogged, but the heart surgery generates a huge payout to the hospital and other stakeholders whereas the routine primary care can no longer keep the lights on and most primary care docs are now selling their practices to large hospital systems. I don’t think this is the result of some top-down conspiracy – rather it is the result of a fragmented irrational system.

  135. Nik, nobody is “straw manning” you. Instead, you make both false claims of fact as well as sophistic, disingenuous arguments. You do this out of self-interest. It is not a straw man argument to point this out. Stop engaging in this behavior, and there will be nothing to call you out on.

    But, so long as you do, newbies need to notice how your kind operates, and why. This is not an academic exercise – we’re going to be getting a lot of this in the years ahead, as the spawn of mudshark era grow up and work in a variety of ways to perpetuate the anti-white system.

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