Nationalist Männerbund Rap

What’s Friday afternoon if not a time to plan your weekend training? Nationalist videos provide aspirational images, and I like the ones below because they feature men as representatives of a culture, part of a larger trend of doing away with showboating the beauty of their women. There are many Eastern European nationalist anthems on YouTube because those countries have patriot youth cultures emerging from their working classes.

A few words about Slavic rap. It’s an appropriated musical form and as is always the case, the borrower of an artistic style remakes it in his own image. For example, different races do rhythm differently. For Whites, the fundamentals are warrior-wiring, with heavy metal and even dubstep beats evoking martial drills.

Stolniygrad is a Russian rapper whose songs promote the physical health of individual men and of White Europe. All of his videos have English subtitles. In “Grab the Axe” below, he tells that his story began when vigilantes beat him up for being a drug addict. Männerbund protects the community and enforces its standards. They kill a drug dealer. The refrain:

Grab your axe, purge your district
Don’t be afraid of the criminal scum

They transport the drug dealer to a forest and execute him there. A tangential thought: there is something in the northeast European soul — Scandinavians, Finns, Slavs, Balts — that finds a home in our primeval forest. Forests have been our sustenance and shelter. Home Army partisants in World War II operated from there. In his autobiographical Native Realm, Czeslaw Milosz writes about that same feeling of spiritual home he’s always found in Lithuanian forests, beginning with his childhood memories of evading soldiers and border guards on smuggling forays with his parents during the 1920 Polish-Soviet war.

The next video is similar in style, and it’s from Poland. It condemns globalist press (the video shows the burning of Gazeta Wyborcza, a premier Jewish-owned newspaper), as well as the torching of the European Union flag:

Instead of a white Eagle, little EU stars?!

The video also has English subtitles. In addition to social themes and explicit White pride lyrics, as with the Russian video before, the song and the video centers on physical training, camaraderie, and personal excellence. From the refrain:

If you don’t ride [with us]
If you don’t train
Then the fuck remember
That you don’t count

Those videos are about hammering down on the thought that’s on the minds of every woke young man throughout the West: who are you? what do you believe? How do you secure your freedom today and your future tomorrow, those two being somewhat in opposition to each other?

A personal takeaway from these videos: I will not go half-ass at the gym this evening. A broader takeaway: anti-empire spirit is growing worldwide, no less so in Eastern Europe. The photo below is from a pan-Slavic march in Warsaw. It featured a number of European flags, pro-Serbian banners about Kosovo, an Iranian flag, as well as a Confederate flag. Nation recognizes nation.

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124 thoughts on “Nationalist Männerbund Rap

  1. Wowser!

    After seeing that first Eastern bloc rap video, I’m surprised you’d even cite it let alone post it and speak fondly of it.

    I’m inclined to be harsh and dismissive: is more than this teaser of a description necessary?

    Howsabout: “Plantonic but nonetheless homoerotic male mudsharking?”

    One question: the mention of ‘electricity’ in that lyric roll for the first video re. drug addicts: is that a reference to electric chairs?

    (Perhaps my reaction to eastern-bloc rap is inevitable, given the contextual stalemate of how I’m able to approach it: the flow of the language seems harsh while its literacy is obviously absent for me; and the physical gestures of the rappers themselves seems parodic of out-of-date 80s American rappers.

    In any case, those guys seem crudely asexual, boorish and uncharismatic—– but then that’s perhaps not so alarming a perception give that it’s coming from a bourgeois Williams Country halfrican, no?

    Context here is a lonely abyss.

  2. @ Trickin – pretty much any music video out of Eastern Europe is going to appear rough, maybe corny and behind the times by USA standards.

  3. One thing that I’ve noticed about the music scene among the Slavs, is that a lot of mainstream music takes on nationalistic, militaristic, masculine/patriarchal and anti-“globalist” themes, and isn’t relegated to the fringe like it is in the western world. Love and pride of culture, country and people is promoted rather than outright ignored or even intentionally trashed.

    Here’s an example of what I thought was a decent song by a mainstream music group:

    Of coarse, there’s plenty of garbage as well (as can be expected), but I believe Slavs are ahead of the West when it comes to healthy and life-affirming music.

    By the way, great blog man. Shoutout from a fellow Slav!

  4. To be clear: I did not mean to imply that western pop was superior to eastern-bloc pop or anything of the sort.

    I think the limits of my context here and the fact that eastern-bloc rap is an appropriation of African-American pop form is enough to give me an over-rigid context, that i nonetheless cannot ignore, to consider it all through.

  5. Nikcrit,
    They are boorish. They probably can be charismatic at times. They doubtfully are asexual, although they seem to value male company at least as much as female company, maybe more.
    Eastern Europe is a tough place. You aren’t going to see as many affable, highly verbal type men as you do in the west.

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  7. — You aren’t going to see as many affable, highly verbal type men as you do in the west.

    Individuals vary and there are subculture and class-distinctions like everywhere else. But in reference to Russian/EE character now under conditions of freedom relative to the suffocating PC climate in the West, the following comment at CH rings true:

    “Russians aren’t cold. They’re warm, intelligent and friendly. The only difference is you can’t fuck with them through teasing, irony, humiliation, taking the piss etc etc the way you can westerners. Its not that they don’t have a sense of humor… they do. But if you think you can cut real close to the bone and make a joke at their expense… you will likely get your head kicked in. Its why they aren’t cucks… and why you have to maintain some respect… unlike the western mangina, the Russians haven’t been feminized.”

  8. But if you think you can cut real close to the bone and make a joke at their expense… you will likely get your head kicked in. Its why they aren’t cucks…

    I agree. I certainly don’t presume those guys in the vids are gamut-exemplifying eastern Europeans, or Slavs, Russians, etc.

    And I do have some personal context; in my mid-to-late 20s, I went out with a Russian woman, a stunning immigrant whose parents were conductors and who came to Brooklyn at 16 and went on to Boston College before working as a art dealer in a gallery with branches in NY and SF.

    what I took home from that experience: extremely self-absorbed (which was mainly do to her striking looks) but also cold, candid and blunt in her opinions and sense of aesthetics. Through her i met her family and other Russian and/or Slavic individuals, mostly liberal arts grads who were art-damaged to varying degrees:

    The most self-relevatory things i learned from that relationship: I didn’t know it for what it was then but i was using her for associative-driven status-building and networking opps; I reflexively felt like getting away the second we were alone; aesthetically a prize but sexually disconnected——- which is quite confusing and one has yet to separate objective looks from personal passion and enticement; her self-absorption protected her from any genuine lovelorn-ness, so no real damage incurred by her or me (that came later for me, through American women!).

    To this day, I somewhat find myself easily indulging the stereotype that Russians and Eastern Europeans are intense, and a bit aesthetically cold and detached, particularly the women.

    I don’t believe someone with my overall upper-midwest disposition could ever find happiness, or even spontaneous day-to-day comfort with a women of that temperament and disposition.

  9. They are boorish. They probably can be charismatic at times. They doubtfully are asexual, although they seem to value male company at least as much as female company, maybe more.
    Eastern Europe is a tough place. You aren’t going to see as many affable, highly verbal type men as you do in the west.

    I would not be surprised, if celibacy were a thing with some of those guys. Obviously not in any weak lame sense like incel in America, but in a monk warrior way, where it can be considered a storing up of intensity.

    They seem like the types who would consider that as a practice.

  10. I don’t thrill out
    I don’t drink alcohol and I don’t smoke

    What matters is that your grin shines

    Life flew by like a bullet
    what have you achieved?

    Pigs are stupid and mice are dying

    *******************

    Hard hitting stuff. Those phrases translate really well.

    Thrill out is a great way to put it; it must be a strict translation of an idiomatic expression.

    From now on in my book the sheep are mice.

    I was going to ask what was their position on booze, but that was made answered. From the sound of the story, the guy was a problem user and an addict and so would have to avoid alchohol completely. AA is big in Russia, I have heard.

  11. — One question: the mention of ‘electricity’ in that lyric roll for the first video re. drug addicts: is that a reference to electric chairs?

    I don’t know what he meant there. Maybe it’s a Russian idiom for shock. The song talks about killing drug dealers and corrupt cops only, they beat up the addicts.

    — Those guys look really tough

    Is it a stretch to think that Thordaddy would fit in with them? I went to the gym earlier this evening, as “promised” in the original post. Did dumbbell shoulder work at one of the benches, and to my left was a man who looked like one of those guys. Big, cut, tatted. American guy, not Russian. He had fast-tempo Metal bleeding from his headphones. I capped my workout with standing overhead presses, two medium-weight sets for each arm, each to failure. One arm per set.

    — Can you imagine the reaction to that video being made domestically? Not pretty.

    He has a more explicit song, titled “White World” also with English subtitles, which begins: “I have a dream to wake up one day in a world without black soot / In a world in which no one will call me an alien in this porridge of colors.”

    The refrain includes “In my dreams – White people in White cities / and I will be covered with grey hair after the years”

    In the Polish video in the original post, as well as in the Russian rapper’s songs, for some reason “White” sometimes appears as “European” in the subtitles. The original lyrics are in fact “White” though: “Bialy” (PL) and “Byeley” (RU).

    — Here’s an example of what I thought was a decent song by a mainstream music group:

    Good video. I gather that it’s Serbian forces routing a drug gang. The videos that go along with these songs are not insignificant. Obviously, there is money and professional production involved. Maybe that’s why they have to “tone down” the appearance of the drug dealers from real life’s likely Arab or Caucasus look. These short videos might be the new form of visual storytelling for the internet/media overload age, with Hollywood offerings becoming anachronistic for a number of reasons.

  12. Awesome. Reminds me of the Russian and EE rap videos I’ve recently posted here (and which, I recall, didn’t get much of a response).

    Of all the Europeans, I think it is the Germans who have the most connection to the forests.

  13. The police state is much weaker outside the West -takes alot of cash to support all the cameras and infrastructure needed.

    EE is miles ahead of Murkan WNs for IRL groups. They can actually have them and they can do weapons training relatively openly.

    The knife flip in your video PA is characteristic of the EE knife-fighting techniques. I am surprised you haven’t promoted the Slavic Union more.

  14. nikcrit,
    Likely you were too nice for her.
    My friend dated a Russian woman for a while. She dumped him and went back to Russia. He does not understand why she would prefer a Russian man to a nice guy like him. I’ve tried to explain it to him, but he doesn’t want to hear it.

  15. I can’t find it now, but I vaguely remember reading a quote in the Daily Mail from a Russian model who said if a man has never hit her, she does not believe he loves her. Likely, you were mild mannered with your girl, and she took that to believe you were not crazy about her. You admitted you were not that into her.

  16. It’s all related. If white men won’t discipline their women, then other men will.

    We see Swedish women defending their rapists and not reporting the crime, often. They prefer Muzz rapists to Swedish cucks. Who do they defend first?

    I would never expect a white woman to admit it, but they’d prefer their men to be violent racist killers, than civilized beta chickens. And if she gets a blood lip once in awhile, so be it. At least she is safe with him.

  17. — It’s all related.

    Yes, it is. I mentioned Mannerbund in the title. That’s one of the foundations to social ownership. That’s why Marxists have been busting up that which Jews fear the most: testosterone + honor code. Pushing women into white collar private clubs (big thing in the early 80s) trades, blue collar uniformed fraternities like firemen, pushing diversity, women at The Citadel and VMI — all of that to atomize fraternity

  18. — Germans who have the most connection to the forests

    Germans too (I rooted for the barbarians in the forest in that battle scene in “The Gladaitor”) — but Germans are outside of the Mushroom Belt — the culture of mushroom-picking, and with it a knowledge of edible vs poisonous, preparing them, growing seasons, knowing the types of woodland habitats for different kinds of mushrooms, etc. Germans like mushrooms but don’t pick them.

  19. — I am surprised you haven’t promoted the Slavic Union more

    My instincts are pan-Slavic but hard feelings going back centuries. Maybe all of that has been settled. Younger generations understand that sanity and cultural brotherhood dictate Slavic unity in face of globalism (and Murka).

  20. @PA
    Exactly. It’s good to see service to the country (in this case through the gendarmerie) being promoted instead of criminality and mafia being glorified like it is in so much of the lower forms of entertainment. I’ve interpreted the main female character in the clip as being a stand-in for the country itself, and the main soldier himself being, obviously the security forces but also any man generally; promoting the theme of protecting your people and country against the bad guys -in this case the drug trafficking terrorist mafijaši or whoever they’re supposed to be. The final scene in the clip is a Serbian flag with the sentence “God and the gendarmerie are protecting Serbia” superimposed on it.

    On the other side of the spectrum, there are also songs that are very anti-system. This one for example -another mainstream music group: (my Polish friend found one with Polish subtitles)

    @Ryu
    This is true. Nietzsche said (BGE, Our Virtues, Aphorism 239):
    “She unlearns fear of man; but the woman who ‘unlearns fear’ sacrifices her most womanly instincts. That woman should venture out when the fear-inspiring in man, let us put it more precisely and say the man in man,…”.
    The “man in man”, as opposed to the non-threatening effete and feminized liberal in man, I suppose.

  21. Great scene near the end of the video with riot police and protesters joining sides. This happened in Slovakia in 2015, when riot police took off their helmets and joined anti-immigration marchers:

  22. I get the impression former Soviet Union countries prefer to distance themselves from Russia because of the past, but also because Russia is dysfunctional. These surrounding countries are starting to see some success themselves and don’t need Russians dragging them down. If Western Europe continues to take in backwards people from the third world, however, Russia may end up looking better and better in comparison.

  23. If Western Europe continues to take in backwards people from the third world, however, Russia may end up looking better and better in comparison.

    I find that thought troubling because it’s so currently plausible; i.e., I think there is a lot wrong with Russia and the former Soviet Republics; the leadership has devolved into near-complete despotism again and the state of corruption and dissent is once again the near-social norm.

    The Soviets and former eastern bloc nations NEED Western Europe—— but not the misguided western Europe of recent social lore, but the classic west of modernity before its decline in recent years borne of imbalanced western idealism.

    Nonetheless, there is no other region of the world that is better-suited and more-needed by the rest of the world.

    It wouldn’t be that hard to incorporate HBD realism into the tenets of 20th-century geopolitics; such a step would simply temper the tragic ironies that result from policies of full-bore biological egaliatarianism.

    This would also restore the proper role and hierarchy of western nations —– i.e., the tragedies, active or developing, from having the spectacle of Russia and Eastern Europe trying to be western-like social and moral leaders for pan-caucasian culture.

  24. O.T.@PA,

    I’ve posted music by this guy and his group before; i think he’s very good and he also, IMO, is the one among those who cover Beatles songs who sounds most like Paul McCartney in his mid-to-late 60s vintage.

    I’m curious though: what language is Bertolf, his band and the television news anchors speaking? Is it Dutch? German? Or some Scandinavian tongue?

  25. It’s not German. I dunno, sounds a bit like Dutch. Should be easy enough to look up his national background.

  26. Anyone remember back in the 80’s MTV used to always plug the lamest “behind the curtain” bands like Gorkiy Park.

  27. Speaking of 80s music, the lyrics in 1982’s “Lawyers In Love” predicted the fall of the USSR. There was even a wry note in the song; remarkably so, given the geopolitical catastrophe that the fall of the Eastern Bloc has turned out to be.

  28. Should be easy enough to look up his national background.

    I think he’s Dutch; thing is, though; the bio you find on him says as much, but his clips have him playing on shows located all over Northern Europe. So that, along with the fact that I’m not sure who speaks what where informally, there’s still a bit of mystery to his origins; (my mid-american rubeness re. Euro languages: I deducted ‘Dutch’ from noticing it wasn’t French or Spanish but sorta like German— but with more umlauts above the vowel! lol…)

    What do you make of his music; i’m very impressed by his mobility around the frets; also has a very natural and gifted sense of harmony and pitch.

  29. @PA, have you seen this short documentary from the Guardian UK about a female Polish nationalist? Being the Grauniad, it is meant to portray her and them in a negative light. However, the comment section tells a different story. Personally, I enjoyed the footage of the beautiful Polish countryside.

  30. @nikcrit
    in my mid-to-late 20s, I went out with a Russian woman, a stunning immigrant whose parents were conductors and who came to Brooklyn at 16 and went on to Boston College before working as a art dealer in a gallery with branches in NY and SF.

    Given the context — conductors, art dealers — was this Russian woman Jewish? If so, then she wasn’t Russian.

  31. Of the Russian speaking women in Brooklyn who work in that specific business euphemistically known as the art world, what percentage of them are not jewish?

    The jews dominate that business to the extreme. Anyone working in it is at their pleasure.

    Which is not to say that they don’t do business with ethnic Russians. Of course they do.

    The line between ethnic Russians and jews from Russia, can be pretty contextual or whatever. As with German jews, it’s blurred genetically but at the same time very real.

  32. Well my guess is that a Gentile Russian would be offended to be considered a Jew, and vice versa. True they seem alike in a lot of ways to the outsider, but they are very well aware of the differences. And Russian Jews are very, very good at ethnic networking, up to and including the despoilment of the entire Russian nation, as in the (((Russian))) looting and the oligarchs.

    Indeed, the centuries old grievances between Russians and (((Russians))) has a great deal to do with why, for example, California is full of Mexicans.

  33. Lothar, thanks for the video and yes, great comments on Youtube. This girl is unassuming and does not seek any spotlight or drama. She is a joiner, and a humble one. For example, she got in trouble with the leader of the group for getting drunk and as punishment had to write an essay about alcohol addiction. She told the journalist: “I shouldn’t be upset with someone yelling at me, my job is to listen to those of higher rank.”

    She also says “ONR is the only thing that is important to me.”

    ONR asked her to run for her town’s city council.

    At the end of the interview, she says that her best friend had left for the UK. She says near the end of the film: “I’m in the ONR for her, because I don’t want people leaving the country.”

    ONR (National-Radical Camp / Obóz Narodowo-Radykalny) was founded in 1934 and had been banned over time by various governments, including the Communist one 1945-1989.

  34. was this Russian woman Jewish?

    Yes, during most of the time we knew each other, she always referred to her background as her father being Jewish and her Mother being Goy.

    Then, about a year or two into knowing her, she acknowledged to me that her mother was half-Jewish too, so that would make her 2/3rds Jewish, if such calculuses applied in that way.

    Why do you say ‘that wouldn’t make her Russian? She was very typically (by my lights) Russian or whatever; i’d naively call her a ‘baltic beauty,’ in that she was very alabaster white and had quite stunning features; there was a real gleam to her face and facial-feature symmetries; sounds sorta silly, but it was tangible, man; this woman would go out in public and generate open, unshielded gawking by men and women alike at times.

    And she was very, very comically narcissistic about that quality; God, she was good p.r. and but just insufferable after a while.

  35. Misc AR content to consider.

    The podcast on TRS Radio, This Hour has 88 Minutes, is listenable. It is by some Canadians, younger guys. Young guys get on my nerves with their crassness and insensitivity regarding other people, but it what it is. That is a generational thing, and they don’t care for this as a criticism: that it is missing the point that they are getting screwed.

    Also the latest Daily Shoah episode 138 is a must-listen. It features a Boer from South Africa who is not a younger guy. And contra their usual format, is more content-based and less bantz. It gives a excellent introduction to the history of South Africa. Did you know that Boers were made up of Dutch, German and Prussian, French, and 5% other, some of which must have been Portuguese. And further that have been there since the 1600s. So they are basically kind of an Aryan super-race. Sort of like Americans in that regard, except that they probably have not degenerated to the extent that we have. Apparently though they are incredibly addicted to their Bibles, in the same way that people from Kansas might have been a 100 years ago.

  36. So she was a beautiful jewess, then. That is a good description of your experience with her, nikcrit. Think of the Lenny Kravitz lookalike children you coulda had.

    Actually I always thought Lenny was less than good-looking, especially lately in his appearances in the Hunger Games, he looked terrible. He should stuck with that high yellow Cosby.

  37. Back to the original video, Grab the Ax.

    The line “Glad to see you among us” is really from the heart, to just put it plainly.

    That sort of club is what they seem to have, but in America, not so much.

    It is well known that American culture is more alienated and atomized than some other places with more long-standing traditions.

    In my experience, American white males, men whatever, tend very much toward passive aggressive. And perhaps most of them are straight up passive, and for whom passive aggressive would be a step in the right direction.

  38. #pa

    — It’s all related.
    Yes, it is. I mentioned Mannerbund in the title. That’s one of the foundations to social ownership. That’s why Marxists have been busting up that which Jews fear the most: testosterone + honor code. Pushing women into white collar private clubs (big thing in the early 80s) trades, blue collar uniformed fraternities like firemen, pushing diversity, women at The Citadel and VMI — all of that to atomize fraternity

    Remember this commenter, PA?

    “Whether they are right or wrong (I think they’re more wrong than right) it’s easier to mock them than it is to explain why ever CPUSA member, every ACLU lawyer, every pro-immigration organization, every SPLC apparatchik seems to have a Jewish last name.

    Many years later, without knowing it, he himself on his blog would answer the question, and the answer was, sadly if you ask me, that they are right doing what they do, and they should keep doing what they have been doing.
    You convinced me of this with your blog, which I started to read because I liked its content and no other reason (certainly not to post critique in comments every now and then).

    The truth is that, as much as I have no interest in the Männerbund, songs speaking of warriors, popular music, rap, the women who adore fascists (which are females to me, just like I am a fag to them), being “adored” by any woman at all (I’d rather be admired. It’s very different. Craving to be liked and valued by a sort of team mate or to be obeyed and revered as a superior by a subject isn’t the same thing. Keep in mind that there is no grain of submissiveness in me. It’s just that I hate dominating nearly as much as being dominated… yes I know it’s strange. But even dominating limits one’s freedom. And freedom is what I want), putting the word “pride” besides “White”, camaraderie, physical training, and punishing criminals with death penalty, I disagree with this blog’s owner on everything, and there’s no point in keeping reading and commenting.

    It so happens that wherever I have been, school from middle to university, Internet sites, almost all of the people I have been able to relate with and talk comfortably finding interest in what they had to say were Jews.

    The People of the Book… and the People of the Mannerbund.

    I am afraid that, against my hopes, there is physical, psychological, cultural incompatibility between them.
    Also, biological race doesn’t dictate what group you belong in.
    I am not Jewish, but reading and reading, studying the history of different cultures and peoples, I have come to realize that I am a (right-wing) person of books, and the people similar to me are the People of the Book.

    By the way, they think the other side hates them for no reason, and that they hate the other side as a response. Both sides think this. What is the truth? The truth is that there is incompatibility. That, from physics upwards, difference and tension are synonyms, and tension and conflict are pretty near to being synonyms too.

    Take the “pan-Slavic march in Warsaw” paragraph and the picture (not by chance you chose one with “fuck USrael”, of course). I can’t find a single word there that I don’t strongly dislike.
    “Gym”?! Give me my room of study, if not my House of Study, please. It’s all I need.
    And why specify that that newspaper is “Jewish-owned”?

    I could pick each word in this post and write a very critical sentence regarding it. You’d think I wanted to troll, and you’d be wrong; I’d only be being sincere, but in a pointless way. So I won’t.

    Incompatibility is the right word.
    And what’s striking is, I am totally right-wing. Between Mannerbund and People of Books (or of the Book) the gap runs deeper than a right-or-left one.
    See how, despite strongly disagreeing with their political goals, I like reading nearly only Jewish magazines. The very way they build phrases and pick words… it’s my way.
    Affinity or the lack of it are deeper things than agreement and disagreement, it seems.
    I can loathe the thesis of an article, but it’s a feeling like… it’s written by someone like me, a relative.
    Conversely, I can approve of the thesis and program of an alt-right site’s article, but still it feels foreign, written by somebody who is unrelated with me.

    I know you will understand what I mean (and it’s a feeling you know too, I have no doubt. Even if one of those “weird” philosophy students has opinions like yours, you still feel no bond. Right?)

    Reading this blog was a very important experience for me, because it made me discover things about myself, and about where on the political and cultural spectrum my home is.
    I sympathized with nationalism, with the alt-right, with Trump and Brexit supporters… but I see that I and them have nothing in common, and never have pleasure from talking, and, as I said, I feel great affinity with the other group, despite we disagree on much.

    You may say it’s the similar testosterone level. It’s not impossible. However, nobody chooses their T level, and also: every level of testosterone brings with it strengths and weaknesses.

    I see that when you critique peoples of books, some of your points are correct, but not a few times you just don’t understand them (us). Needless to say, peoples of books understand little of the Mannerbund’s members.
    Maybe if they understood each other better there would be less conflicts, but that is a clear impossibility, I am afraid.

    Sorry for some aggressivity in my previous comment. Seeing that someone enjoys calling people of your kind “defectives” as an hobby isn’t the easiest of things, especially when you somehow like their blog, and I did the mistake of replying in kind.
    If you meet again the girl from that campus, though, tell her that all what makes her life different from life 3,000 years ago, from Internet (included the WordPress platform…) to medicines, from cars to trains to TVs to smartphones, not to mention all art of the kind that survives the centuries, or Facebook and YouTube (which I am sure she likes to use) was made by quite “weird” “defectives”…

    How great it would be if different people could live together without conflict and struggle for power, in reciprocal appreciation of their different features.

  39. YFG / “Randroid Gamma”

    You will enjoy Czeslaw Milosz’s autobiography “Native Realm”, which you’ve seen me write about on occasion. It’s in print on Amazon. He has a number of chapters devoted to his rigorous Catholic education in 1920s/30s Vilnius as well as to Jews of the time and place. I think you’d relate strongly to him. I do, even where I despise the people he admired.

    He viscerally hated nationalism, even in its nation-defending role. His sympathy was with the sweet, mild-mannered Jewish shopkeepers of his childhood, and in his youth he gravitated toward friendship with those shopkeepers’ sons, who in turn were intellectually intense, radical Communists.

    Milosz himself stopped short of fully embracing communism, even as he then thought Marxism if not inevitable then certainly mankind’s sole viable philosophy. His radical friends and he himself ascribed his reservations to a lack of nerve, but I’d call it a conscience that he possessed but the radicals lacked.

    In one of the chapters, he goes into great depth about his struggle with the very embodiment of Roman Catholicism (his own faith) in the person of an equally intense priest/teacher at school. Milosz chafed under the authoritarian dogmatism of the priest but ultimately credits him for his own intellectual development. Decades later he understood the … what’s the word – value – of Catholicism’s stress on the sinful side of human nature. His relationship with the priest, in my view, was that of a hatred between two intellectual equals who saw in each other man’s attraction to the abyss.

    At the end of the chapter, Milosz reevaluates his previously unqualified antagonism to everything that the priest had stood for upon learning that he (the priest) had chosen to stay with his parishioners in Vilnius rather than flee to Poland when the Soviets advanced on the city, knowing that he will be sent to a gulag.

    Milosz remained antagonistic to Polish nationalism, refused to fight in the 1944 Warsaw Uprising on grounds that the Home Army is “fascist” and because he found the Uprising a vainglorious gesture (he lived in German-occupied Warsaw during the run-up to the uprising).

    — and the answer was, sadly if you ask me, that they are right doing what they do, and they should keep doing what they have been doing

    You are horrifically wrong here. Browse the web for photos from the Holodomor.

    You also describe your affinity to books and to intellectuals while above advocating the rape of the Great Books.

    This is something that just occurred to me, and I’m thinking it through as I’m typing this: the European and Christian spirit (the two for my purposes here are almost synonymous) seeks a balance of body and mind because it recognizes the error of an unfettered mind. That error lies in the liberated mind’s secret, sneaky worming of itself toward sociopathy.

    The check on that tendency is honor. An honor code restrains the ego, especially the wounded ego, and teaches humility. The unrestrained mind tends toward solipsism and solipsism tends toward sociopathy.

    Hope the above sketch/thought makes sense.

    I don’t write much about Jews either way but logic as well as Jews’ own affirmations dictate that they are a distinct nation like any other, and honest observation connects their diaspora with Leftism and its fruits. European sociopath-alphas are ultimately limited by the venal ends of their efforts, even someone like Napoleon, while Jewish sociopath-alphas become destroyers of worlds like George Soros.

    I knew that “defectives” from that entry’s title was a minefield of a word. It was Koestler’s word (a Jew, btw) in English translation from the original German of “Darkness at Noon” and I borrowed it. In his strict usage and more loosely in mine, the word is objectively correct. It is also salient to an analysis of Leftism.

    Of course, it’s not a word one normally uses in reference to a person with flaws that are beyond his control, but politeness does not cure those flaws. Conversely, frankness does not imply contempt. Every single one of us, me no less, has his cross to bear.

  40. Someday the lion will lie down with lamb but until then you want your group to win.

    Unless you really don’t like your group, in which case you don’t want them to win. (but know that you are an asshole because it’s the kids who end up paying for it)

    I have a lot of ambivalencies about “my group” which is White Americans. White Americans are idiots and saps. Their average IQ is like 100 or something, and that doesn’t even tell half the story. They get their values from what, exactly?

  41. There is no resolve to any of this stuff, by the way. That is really the point of life, that it’s not resolved.

    And that lack of resolution is our own experience and it is also the politics that we live.

    I said in a previous comment that Group Level Selection correlates with competition between the Races, and that is a nice and neat little theory. I for one am not equipped to evaluate that question. It is a good simple question that the experts might would want to look into, is it not?

    The group identity of White American is dubious at best. It is my personal background, but whether it means anything remains to be seen.

    And on the personal, my own feelings are entirely ambivalent. But ambivalent personal feelings (i almost typed failings) are part of that un-resolved aspect to things.

    Eddy Boy Wilson, low-T high-accomplishing exemplar extraordinaire, made that that point most emphatically. That the human condition of feeling conflict between loyalty to a group versus own’s own interests and personal gratification, is utterly ingrained in our evolutionary heritage.

  42. The Aryan archetype evolved and prospered under very different conditions.

    He was pushing forward against life all the time.

    Whereas, who is doing that now?

    Now most people are sitting around waiting for their next big poop, or maybe something to eat.

    Imagine Conan coming into existence in the suburbs, right now. How long would it be before the cops shot him down? Or would it go somehow else?

    Somewhere in northern Wi is a statue cast in bronze of one of the trapper explorers of that region, and it captures his face very well. That guy could kick anyone’s ass, reading this. (except maybe not thordaddy)

    But what’s more is that everyone he came into contact with, there was an immediate appraisal of who had the upper hand, who could slay whom and right quick.

    That always goes on with people, in every interaction today at every level — but no one is slaying the other person. Our status markers are determined by internal confidence that is reified by our status markers that are determined by … what exactly?

    How well you mate the eusocial ant queen of America.

  43. There was a guy in high school …

    who was cast from that Bronze Age statue. I can recall his name, I wish i could say because it is comically perfect, but won’t because he is a real person.

    But he was a fucked up motherfucker. 6 foot maybe 210, narrow hips and monster shoulders and a full red brown beard at 17.

    And in addition to all that, he skied like a pro. He could “pop a heli” with the grace of a cat.

    But for some weird reason he didn’t fit in and never had a steady. The girls should have been sucking him off and putting his sperm into the deep freeze.

    Five or ten years on I saw him at a Minneapolis bar, the somewhat historical Cabooze, sitting alone perched in a high-visibility spot staring down every last of 100 motherfuckers.

    But all alone, no girl and tense and unhappy.

    What ever became of him.

  44. I read a straight-up news item on the chet ellis thing; one of the first in the google queue when you type in the words: “white privilege,” “Chet Ellis.”

    Here is the crux of the articles thrust: he won a grand for an essay contest re. ‘white ;privilege’ i which he more or less makes several observations like this one, directly from the article:

    Chet Ellis, a 15-year-old sophomore at Staples High School in Westport, described a discussion on getting into college one day during track practice. He wrote that a white friend said he would have no problem because he’s black.

    “I was stunned,” he wrote, “and mumbled something instead of firing back, ‘Your parents are third-generation Princeton and your father runs a hedge fund and yet you think my ride is free?'”

    OK, now i bet any regular commenter of this site could accurately guess what the thrust is of the rest of the article and come up with some imaginary quotes that were more or less in the spirit of the actual rest of the piece, etc.

    But what of it? What’s really at stake here? And how deep is the possible outrage?

    Ok, first off: it’s not accurate in a literal sense: the white son of a hedge funder objectively does have access to ‘more privilege,’ in whatever self-serving form is opted for in the piece; yet it’s also true that Ellis, with his sepia face distinguishing his 4.0 academic resume from the rest of the 4.0 alabaster sea most certainly does have the edge in getting into the elite college of his choice (though i would put up white hedge-fund alumni money against a 4.0 black GPA on most betting days——– the economic evidential of wealth-vs-the economic principle of scarcity, as yours truly has used the latter in his humanities graduate program to pull off free tuition and a nice monthly stipend to go with it.

    We’ve all discussed these type stories exhaustively; their sort-of topical ‘set-pieces’ of racial outrage, when going to both right or left-driven race blogs..

    So what bugs me is why can’t some of the over ‘stockness’ of the supposed outrage be drained some. I mean, is anybody really all that worked up about stuff like this at this late date?

    To cut it short, i just wish both ‘sides’ were more expressive of the ambiguities involved; black outliers are aware of the ironies involved; white scions know a few of those, too. I’m just saying that some of the stock controversey that’s allegedly contained within these stories could use some fresh updating.

  45. That EuropeanUnity565 guy has a cool channel – I like his work translating pan-European nationalist music. This dude is my fave so far.

  46. As far as I know there is no outrage over the Chet Ellis. The article was obviously being used as click bait.

  47. Kroc Blanc means white crocodile?

    That first video is a good watch.

    In translation, those lyrics do not come across as elegant as the ones in the Russian video, with the exception of

    “I have the breath of an ibex”

    which phrase may should come into use.

  48. Chet Ellis, a 15-year-old sophomore at Staples High School in Westport, described a discussion on getting into college one day during track practice. He wrote that a white friend said he would have no problem because he’s black.

    “I was stunned,” he wrote, “and mumbled something instead of firing back, ‘Your parents are third-generation Princeton and your father runs a hedge fund and yet you think my ride is free?’

    Because third-generation Princeton is typical of us whiteys, and comparing the lot of White America to his situation, makes for non-biased conclusions.

    That is such a glaring example of the Apex Fallacy, that it doesn’t make for a good argument.

    So the black guy’s name is Chet Ellis?

    Check your assumptions, goy!

  49. I wouldn’t have faulted him if he came back at his friend and pointed out that he also had it pretty good. Maybe I should write about every little less than complimentary thing that has been said to me over the years. I could write a 600 page book just with that.

  50. I like this new genre of nationalist rap though. Good thread, top marks.

    The obvious point, and already made, is that there is no equivalent in America.

    Obviously the talent is out there — but those white rappers who have the talent in America, do they still want to be black, like Slim Shady?

    There is famous Minneapolis North Side rapper from ten years ago, white and BLIND, who had mad respect from the rap community for his skillz. But he was an honorary black person. And indeed one of the themes of his “work” was that blacks showed him how to be a man.

    I wish it weren’t so, but that was what he said, in his raps. Brother Ali, is his name.

  51. “but those white rappers who have the talent in America, do they still want to be black, like Slim Shady?”

    I don’t know that Slim Shady wanted to be black. I didn’t follow his career and don’t care much to.

    Wasn’t all that impressed, frankly. In the last video i saw of him he was posing with some white biker gang guys, so that is pro-white signaling for sure.

    I saw him in an awards show clip, an interview before the show, probably the MTV awards about ten years ago, where the black interviewer openly dis-respected him. I can’t remember what the conversation was about, but it was clear he got dissed, and he put on a moose.

    He needed to call him out on it right there, but he failed to do so.

  52. “I was stunned,” he wrote, “and mumbled something instead of firing back, ‘Your parents are third-generation Princeton and your father runs a hedge fund and yet you think my ride is free?’

    This kid is completely full of crap, even his youthfulness can’t excuse it. His ride will still be free, regardless of how rich the rest of the kids are at that high school.

    When I was in high school in NC any of my black friends with over 1000 or so on the SAT (old scoring scale) got recruited heavily by the Ivies, Georgetown, Duke, Furman, etc. – and this wasn’t for athletics, just general recruiting. They’d send personal reps down to visit them at home, and they’d do all of the trouble of putting a financial aid package together for them ahead of time.

    These schools wouldn’t even lift a finger to send a “request for info” post card to a non-legacy White or Asian student in flyover country even if they had a perfect 1600.

    So the black guy’s name is Chet Ellis?

    So, who’s spent less time around rank-and-file black people in their formative years? Chet, Barack or Trickin? LMAO

  53. The obvious point, and already made, is that there is no equivalent in America.

    Well, what about House of Pain and Cypress Hill and, to a lesser extent, Eminem?

    (Quick and funny real-life story re. Cypress Hill: I was at one of those pop-station-sponsored pop festivals, in which you’d have like fifteen bands on the bill with each playing a half-hour set and starting in late afternoon.

    Anyhow, we’re at Tinley Park outside Chicago backstage, and they have a press lounge set up for the tons on interviews, everyone from national-rock-mag dailies to local student newspapers in attendance.

    And this little teenage girl from one of the Chicago-suburb hiigh schools asks B Real, the lead rapper in Cypress Hill, what’s it like to be among the few prominent national white rappers—— And B Real just went through the roof! He practically jumped from behind the table where the interviewees were perched and started berating the poor girl, saying “I’m not fucking white! I’m not fucking white! Don’t be saying that shit!” etc.

    It was fucking hysterical; i guess he’s some sort-of far-eastern European mix like Borak or whatever; sort-of Latvian and Arab or something. I don’t know and I’m pretty sure that he didn’t, either. Or that he had some hardcore personal mythology that was dear to his heart. And this innocent girl, with absolutely no ill intention whatsoever, just set him off on a panicked rage. Lol…

  54. Cypress Hill sucked. I always assumed that B-Nasal (aka B-Real) was Armenian, but he did use the N-word so that generally means he was claiming to be non-white.

    They had the same exact, forgettable sound and exact same lyrics shot out of his nasal passages in every song – smoking blunts and killing people. And Cypress Hill used to be the absolute darlings of the alternative set, thrown on stage as that one hip hop act at Bonnaroo or wherever, then later that became Snoop Dogg.

  55. And Cypress Hill used to be the absolute darlings of the alternative set, thrown on stage as that one hip hop act at Bonnaroo or wherever, then later that became Snoop Dogg.

    Do you remember the H.O.R.D.E. festival? i think it was ’98 when i saw it and was surprised by the combination of headliners: Beck, Snoop Dogg, Neil Young; several years earlier, say ’94, I was at a Lollapalooza bill boasting George Clinton, Smashiong Pumpkins, Beastie Boys and either Soundgarden or Alice in Chains, though i think it was the former…… point being, rap artists and/or collectives have enjoyed alt-rock cachet for quite a while now; even in the late 80s you’d see a lot of white hipsters at Public Enemy shows.

    Ok, sorry about the topic tangent, PA.

  56. When I was in high school in NC any of my black friends with over 1000 or so on the SAT (old scoring scale) got recruited heavily by the Ivies, Georgetown, Duke, Furman, etc. – and this wasn’t for athletics, just general recruiting. They’d send personal reps down to visit them at home, and they’d do all of the trouble of putting a financial aid package together for them ahead of time.

    I could raise some real ire here among hardcore raycist Alt-Righters with personal stories about being recruitied for undergrad and grad schools.

    But their consolation would come from the fact that I was young and foolish enough to use it on a humanities M.A. when I most surely could have applied the perks to a top-40 law school admission but didn’t.

    Even more painful, I’d bet that a debt-free, tuition-paid three years at say, U of Minn. or some other solid but 40th to 50th-ranked law school is worth about as much as, say, a Northwestern or other top law degree but with the $60,000-plus in student debt and loans.

  57. Do you remember the H.O.R.D.E. festival?

    EXACTLY the type of event I had in mind, lol. I shoulda known that you’d remember better than me.

    But despite their inclusion in many such arrays of bands, no one actually listened to anything that Cypress Hill was saying, they literally had ZERO lyrical content. In later years, they’d still be the preferred hip hop act amongst all these aspiring highly “political” groups as grunge and the old “alternative” faded.

    Kinda the same way that no one really comprehended or cared to interpret anything that Rage Against the Machine was saying even though they considered themselves to be this great political band. I will argue that RAtM did have some actual songwriting artistry, at least, even though their fans just wanted loud and “rebellious.”

  58. — I could raise some real ire here among hardcore raycist Alt-Righters with personal stories about being recruitied for undergrad and grad schools.

    Not from me. Once you stop accepting the arrangements as legitimate, you no longer expect fair play. The whole thing is dead to you. That’s why I couldn’t care less about that little skid-mark in Connecticut. My eye is on the future.

    On an individual level, you have your story and you had your breaks in life, and I have mine.

    — I like this new genre of nationalist rap though.

    Same here.

  59. From Wikipedia’s opening sentence on the institution:
    Furman University is a private, coeducational liberal arts college located in Greenville, South Carolina. Furman is the oldest and most selective private institution of higher learning in South Carolina.

  60. despite their inclusion in many such arrays of bands, no one actually listened to anything that Cypress Hill was saying, they literally had ZERO lyrical content.

    I recall seeing Cypress Hill in another setting —– as part of the “Smoking Grooves’ tour, if you remember that one, which featured Wyclef jean, I believe, and head Fugee Lauryn Hill as a solo act; anyhow, CP on that tour would break into their hit “Insane in the Membrane,” at which point a 25-foot inflatable Buddah would be unveiled from the back of the stage —– and then the big replica would start to sway to the beat with a huge also-oversized blunt between its lips.

    And to think i had the privilege to be there and render and mediate all that high art for the masses, lol!

  61. On an individual level, you have your story and you had your breaks in life, and I have mine.

    That’s true and how i reflexively look at such breaks and obstacles; as my late great sports fan buddy would say: “You gotta get to the line any way you can.”

  62. Furman is a pretty strong school where upper crust Southern students go if they want to stay in the south but prefer a private school over a flagship SEC/ACC, and don’t want to be around all of the Yankees, liberals and Jerseyites at Duke. Same type of student as what you would see at UNC, but more conservative. Davidson is somewhat similar (where Steph Curry went to school)

    Duke, of course, is where upper crust, well-connected Northeasterners go to school if they can’t quite make it into the Ivies.

  63. To admire the Jew qua Jew JUST IS TO DESIRE to be on the “brink of annihilation.”

    A healthy-minded white man CANNOT EXIST in a “state” of perpetuating self-annihilation.

    Rand went wrong where all high IQ self-annihilators GO WRONG…

    She denied her right to existence from her beginning and invoked her right to “any means necessary” in order to live.

    In other words, her mother was “god” and her “radical autonomy” made her terminable without consent.

    Alt-writers are under the same demonic influence.

    The self-annihilating mass is too pozzed to consider its true desire either collectively or individually.

    The unresolved question IS NO SUCH THING.

    The high IQ self-annihilator, perpetually on the “brink of annihilation” and thus DETERMINED to operate by “any means necessary,” SIMPLY DENIES the reality of objective Supremacy, i.e., Perfection.

    So the perfected “script” to which no alt-writer will flip is that only the ignorant possess that Perfectionist itch.

  64. PA, are you being facetious? I know it’s hardly fascinating topicry, but since i’m mindful of colleges and their reputations, i’m surprised i haven’t at least heart of Furman..

    It’s described as a high-prestige liberal arts and humanities shcool; probably the southern equivalent of Minnesota’s St. Olaf and Carelton colleges in Nrothfield, Minnesota, outside the Twin Cities.

    Many national politicos have gone to Carelton; it’s sometimes described as the “Harvard of the Midwest.”

    [just messin with ya — PA]

  65. The high IQ “jewhite” self-annihilator is the archetype anti-white Supremacist.

    Randian Gamma can intellectually recognize the superiority of a white Supremacist to a “jewhite” self-annihilator in the simple measure of an individual existence if only in the abstract comparison of rivaling formulated conceptions.

    In other words, if our choice is between a “perpetuating ‘white’ self-annihilation” and “striving towards Supremacy” as white men THEN ONLY THE TRULY IGNORANT shall be confounded by the actual direction that a white male should take.

    Yet, this is not our reality. Our reality is of a high IQ “jewhite” cabal which desires to be on the “brink of annihilation” while slimultaneously denying the reality of white Supremacy… Even the smallest and most minuscule of remnant is denied.

    This “jewhite” cabal is the “capital” of Die Verse City.

    But to no avail…

    wS cannot be vanquished.

  66. Very few white people are going to get worked up about Chet and his essay. They just won’t like him. Acting and thinking the way he does will hurt him a lot more than it hurts me.

  67. You can just tell by looking at him he’s a soft kid. Life is not kind to soft men.

    A very soft kid. If he’s scandalized by those small remarks coming from those unthreatening affluent white kids he wouldn’t have lasted 30 seconds around the real black people of the type I played basketball with for 10 years in school, usually being only one of only 2-3 guys on the team who weren’t black. And the black players would say plenty of “racially charged” stuff to us, but we either knew that they were kidding, or we knew that we weren’t being singled out since two seconds later they’d be calling each other the N-word and throwing endless threats at other blacks in like manner.

    Chet’s story is kinda like that Ta-Heesi Coates guy who is always getting lambasted by Sailer – his biography is filled with all sorts of references to getting hardcore bullied by other “less cerebral” blacks but he makes a huge deal of the only instance of actual white “racism” he can point to from his childhood – a white woman in NYC yells at his 4-year kid to “move!!” when blocking an elevator.

  68. — scandalized by those small remarks coming from those unthreatening affluent white kids

    I always see such reactions less as scandalized and more as calling Whites out on their insolence. The Talented Tenth version of “MuffgaSayWhaaaaaaaa?!?”

  69. Chet Ellis, who is this young light. Might he carry the torch of Ta-Nahisi Coates?

    “But living in this place where almost everyone is white makes me question, when I’m in Walgreens and the manager follows me around the store, would this happen if I looked different?” he wrote.

    Inspired. Revealing. Heartbreaking.

    “Students get blinded by the thought that a student could get into college more easily because of their skin color, while not seeing that African-Americans are twice as likely to be unemployed, and once employed earn nearly 25 percent less than their white counterparts,” the Staples High School sophomore wrote. “They don’t see that despite making up 12 percent of the population, we are 35 percent of jail inmates and 24 percent of people shot by the police.”

    Compassionate. Cutting. Blinding.

    In third place we honor the white girl, 18 year old Claire Dinshaw.

    “Whereas I can find skin care products easily, non-white Westport residents will find that stores mostly carry beauty products designed for white skin; whereas I can turn on the news to find countless white role models, non-white Westport residents will find that the majority of politicians, anchors, and corporate leaders resemble their white classmates,” the 18-year-old wrote.

    http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/White-privilege-essay-contest-winner-announced-11047949.php

    When the topic was first announced, the fourth annual installment of TEAM Westport’s Teen Diversity Essay Contest drew an unprecedented amount of backlash in the form of hate-filled emails and phone calls.

  70. That article at the local rag, the Westport Faggot, reminds of the weekly around here.

    The writing and the tone of it is so bad that it is beyond parody.

    Westport sounds like a somewhat swanky place. And in fairness to Ellis he is only 15 years old, so maybe he can grow up. Judging by his looks, i bet he is from the Islands and maybe Bahamas. He is pretty light and with that name, he probably has a limited slave background. (not that that is a reason to miss out on the diversity racket!)

  71. U of Minn. or some other solid but 40th to 50th-ranked law school is worth about as much as, say, a Northwestern or other top law degree but with the $60,000-plus in student debt and loans.

    I don’t know what the tuition racket is for those schools these days, but it’s about 60 grand per year for top schools.

    U of Minnesota Law School is ranked 23rd, and Northwestern is at the 10 spot.

    https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings

  72. WESTPORT — A Norwalk woman allegedly pocketed payments while working at a Westport hair salon, thefts that were caught on camera installed after the store manager suspected an employee was stealing.

    Jessica Lopez, 35, of Woodward Avenue in Norwalk, allegedly pocketed money customers paid for services at the salon while she was working, totaling about $100 in thefts. Lopez turned herself in to police March 28 for the warrant out for her arrest.

    The writing at the Westport News varies in its quality, but the gooey tone is a given.

    Westport is apparently an uber-swank suburb of Connecticut.

  73. “Anyway, dude, the narrative continues to unravel. Like I told ya, OF COURSE Obama had Trump “wire tapped.” He had one of his vicious beotches handle it. In years to come, our Chinese historians will refer to the Obama years as The Fag Hag Administration.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-03/confirmed-susan-rice-unmasked-trump-team

    That story’s already been disproven; they are throwing shit on the wall and seeing what might stick and, even more important at this critical stage, what might work as distraction.

    Tell me with a straight face that when Trump made that allegation re. Obama several weeks ago he had in mind this rote, on-going status-quo intelligence-gathering program that was now under Rice’s watch and had been perpetuating since GWB’s administration.

    The important thing though, for your ‘side,’ is that in today’s hyper-overloaded mediation state, if you throw enough crap around hard enough, by combining the decoys with the overall fatigue level, you WILL succeed in creating enough battle-fatigue in which nothing will be resolved while maintaining partisan dichotomy entrenched and unmoving.

    so, i’ll give you that —– but you gotta admit, Trump is about the sloppiest partisan to come about in years at even a national politico level, let alone as POTUS.

    Everything I predicted about how and why his leadership would be feeble has come true —–moreso than i even would’ve have predicted specifically.

    Interesting to see today that Bannon is being bumped down a few notches; i consider that important and potentially game-changing.

    He’s a pop celebrity—– that’s all you have to know.

  74. Westport is apparently an uber-swank suburb of Connecticut.

    Westport in the Minnetonka of Connecticut: status-heavy wealthy suburb but still inner-ring and thus with a bit of ‘urbane’ sheen, rather than rural super-rich ‘McMansion’ terrain.

  75. U of Minnesota Law School is ranked 23rd, and Northwestern is at the 10 spot.

    Really? That’s interesting to me. I realize Minnesota Law has gained ground in recent decades but i didn’t know it was that esteemed;

    Back in the day I was summoning, late 80s/early ’90s. Minn’s was lower and UW-Madison Law was higher, maybe cracking the top-20. It would make sense to me that Minneapolis would have a premier law school, given its relative wealth, urbanity and anthro-stock in terms of aggregate IQ.

    How come you guys aren’t running this country, getting things back on track? 🙂

  76. As Sailer has alluded to over the years, the biggest losers from the farce that is college admissions is the talented whites without family or school connections to get selected, or don’t go to more cerebral schools where they could get noticed.

    To paraphrase a great writer….if a non-legacy admission is wronged, what, by example of the identity polutics, should be his revenge?

  77. That story’s already been disproven; they are throwing shit on the wall and seeing what might stick and, even more important at this critical stage, what might work as distraction.

    No, that story hasn’t been “disproven.” The MSM just refuses to cover it, or frames it in terms of “Trump is trying to distract from the Russia investigation with Susan Rice accusations.

  78. 1No, that story hasn’t been “disproven.”

    Yes, it has —– no one will sign on to it, dems or gops alike —- but then, you of course can’t trust those ‘cuck’ Gops on national cable news, because they’re against us too! Phew!!!

    See my above comment; your ‘side’ probably will get to the point where you can blow enough smoke to an already media-exhausted plurality. Nothing will happen —– but that includes the ‘God Emperor’s’ planks as well.

    Cam: one question: do you believe the supposed Rice surveillance command was what Trump was referring to when he made that accusation about Obama a few weeks ago? Just asking.

  79. Cam: one question: do you believe the supposed Rice surveillance command was what Trump was referring to when he made that accusation about Obama a few weeks ago? Just asking.

    Well, he’s not one to worry about fine details before shooting off his mouth. But yes, I think word of that sort of thing filtered up to him.

  80. Here’s an Italian punk band I discovered while searching for more nationalist music on YouTube. Notice the “Hasta La Vista, Antifascista” shirt at the 12 second mark. They have several more videos, include an anti-European Union song entitled “Fuck Ue.”

    Italy is one of my favorite countries in the world, and it is very heartening to see there are still Italians left who take pride in their culture, rather than virtue-signaling as open borders cucks.

  81. Lothar: t is very heartening to see there are still Italians left who take pride in their culture, rather than virtue-signaling as open borders cucks.

    I have always held the vague presumption that Euro-leftie virtue-signaling, i.e., open-border activism and its fellow cause positions, are advanced more by Northwestestern and northern European countries, such as England, Germany, the Netherlands and Scandinavian countries, while Spaniards, Italians and the southern French held more sober, nationalistic and overall paleo-conic sensibilities and convictions.

    That hunch seemed to hold up upon my various trips to Europe (basically, all of the major capitals of the aforementioned places (minus any Scandinavian countries) but overall I don’t have a sophisticated sense of the continent politically at all.

  82. I have always held the vague presumption that Euro-leftie virtue-signaling, i.e., open-border activism and its fellow cause positions, are advanced more by Northwestestern and northern European countries, such as England, Germany, the Netherlands and Scandinavian countries, while Spaniards, Italians and the southern French held more sober, nationalistic and overall paleo-conic sensibilities and convictions.

    I’d agree.

    But it’s partly because the closer you get to the Mediterranean in Europe, the more important extended family becomes, and this supports the formation of a national culture much better as that just an extension of your relations.

    Northwest Europeans have never cared much about extended family as much, only nuclear family. This leads to a more insular, atomized culture where the individual can more easily see him/herself as that unique snowflake. However, the North/west European stress on nuclear family leads to positive gene mixing in many other ways in that it makes cousin marriage very, very rare. (much of the problem with the tribalism and “us versus them” violence of Arab muslims is their high frequency of cousin marriage)

  83. Off-hand from my observation, I’d say that Euro-leftie virtue-signaling is sincere when coming from upper-class Nordics. Middle and lower class Europeans of any country, as well as non-Nordics of all classes, if they virtue-signal, it’s ritualistic and not a reflection of their sincere thoughts.

    The ritualistic and insincere (“insincere” may not be the perfect word — maybe “held up as a leave-me-alone talisman to the faceless system without giving it much thought or letting it affect their important personal decisions”) is something I’ve seen done, both in personal conversation and on forums,etc, by all kinds of Europeans.

    There are also complicated secondary factors. For example, and I mentioned this in the Poles Apart post, some striver-class Eastern Europeans used to be susceptible to the so-called “EE inferiority complex” in face of the the more progressive and prosperous western nations, and so they adapt prog affectations themselves to distance themselves from their “backward” fellow countrymen. I’ve been seeing a lot less of that now. Twenty years ago, blind admiration of Western European life was understandable, but people in Eastern Europe now see more worm, less apple in those formerly aspiratinal countries.

    Here is a conversation I had in Poland last summer that is illustrative of that lifeless-ritual virtue-signalling: I’m talking with a well-off thirty-something man who is taking his family to Croatia’s coast for vacation. Travel, especially driving, being my favorite conversation topic in real life, I light up and ask him about his route. He says “we normally drive through Hungary, but Orban (eye roll) caused too many inconveniences at the borders so we’re going around through Austria.” I said this as an aside, with no desire to get into heavy politics at the moment: “Unfortunately a lot of that is necessary. I don’t envy Hungarians being on the front lines of the current invasion.” He sort of looked embarrassed with himself for a moment, said “yeah, that’s true” and then conversation continued normally.

  84. PS: that’s all polite conversation. If I related the kinds of “tavern talk” political conversations I’ve casually overheard in Poland over time, heh.

  85. There are also complicated secondary factors. For example, and I mentioned this in the Poles Apart post, some striver-class Eastern Europeans used to be susceptible to the so-called “EE inferiority complex” in face of the the more progressive and prosperous western nations, and so they adapt prog affectations themselves to distance themselves from their “backward” fellow countrymen.

    This occurs a lot throughout the world in countries that are trying to keep pace with the West in development. And it’s usually a country’s academia that is most pro-foreign and completely dismissive of its own rank-and-file citizenry – just like we are seeing in the USA today. And they attempt to make their love for “foreign-ness” the trendy way of thinking.

    In Vietnam in the 70’s the communists really were the Nationalists, the pro-American intelligentsia and business class in the capitalist South would be very much akin to our current USA liberal academia in wanting to open up the country to all sorts of foreign influence and immigration. Hence, when the Communists finally conquered the South they liquidated academia. Mao Tse-Tung gutted academia in favor of the “worker” and not the soft professor. In Cambodia (Pol Pot) the Khmer Rouge forced all of the pro-foreign academia into the fields to work like peasant slaves (as seen in the move “The KIlling Fields”)

    On the alt right I don’t think that a lot of us understand that what happened with the rise of Obama is campus leftism hijacking the Democratic party and infiltrating mainstream liberalism. This is why you now hear so many terms that were once restricted to campus lefty professors – micro-aggressions, black bodies, invisible knapsacks of white privilege, trigger warnings, etc. etc.

  86. For example, and I mentioned this in the Poles Apart post, some striver-class Eastern Europeans used to be susceptible to the so-called “EE inferiority complex” in face of the the more progressive and prosperous western nations, and so they adapt prog affectations themselves to distance themselves from their “backward” fellow countrymen. I’ve been seeing a lot less of that now. Twenty years ago, blind admiration of Western European life was understandable, but people in Eastern Europe now see more worm, less apple in those formerly aspiratinal countries.

    I can even discerned that in a vague, disassociated way over recent decades; and if that sensibility could impart itself to me then it’s certainly a known dynamic among bordering Europeans; i’d imagine that’s a common cultural thematic in literature and all sorts of contemporary culture and arts.

    I’d imagine there’s a sense of humility now extending from the west to the east, as now it’s the west that’s a bit enervated and suffering and now the east, with its zeitgeist currently led by figures such as Orban, that’s steering the ideological vanguard.

  87. For example, and I mentioned this in the Poles Apart post, some striver-class Eastern Europeans used to be susceptible to the so-called “EE inferiority complex” in face of the the more progressive and prosperous western nations, and so they adapt prog affectations themselves to distance themselves from their “backward” fellow countrymen.

    Radical Islam is also partly a reaction to that “inferiority complex” – Muslim preachers in places like London don’t want their flock to start picking up Western customs, Western softness – and Western sexual practices amongst their daughters – so one way to fight back against that is to preach on the moral decrepitude of the west and advocate a cultural roll back to the burqa and the hijab.

    A lot of times Muslim immigrants to London or Paris end up living, dressing and behaving way more “conservatively” there than they did in their home countries where they originated.

  88. White people aren’t really white.

    Well, that Russian woman I spoke of a few days ago was.

    That’s where I first learned the term “alabaster.” 🙂

  89. Nivea ran this ad recently,

    Y’know, I know a few things about national advertising concepts and campaigns; I wonder if at this late date if the agency ‘team’ working on the Nivea campaign did that ad as sort of a shock tactic within a larger ideation for that account? I mean, it’s utterly impossible for a national advertising agency to produce something like that on a national level for a product of that renown and NOT know what kind of press reaction it would incur to some degree. Impossible.
    It’s actually more fesible for me to believe that they did a pre-calculated multi-event campaign for Nivea in which they’d: put out the 1) put the controversial ad; 2) React and promote the inevitable fallout by noting the irony of absolution in ‘white beauty’, yet 3) note how the protesters had a point, at which point they would culminate by 4) doing some event with the alabaster Nivea angels AND some equally ethereal-evoking NAMs in the service of some sort of fundraiser or donation to some NAM-friendly cause, all overseen by Nivea-skin-blessed beauties of all creeds and colors.

    Or something like that.

  90. There are plenty of East Asians and American Indians for that matter, and for that matter Arabs and Central Asians and misc others, who have skin tone that is well within the skin-tone range for the Euro phenotype. So they are pale and white in that sense, but they are not White in the sense of belonging to the White Euro group.

    As always, it aint rocket science.

    As far as, Are jews white, or can they be, do we have explain this to nikcrit here and now?

    That question also, is not rocket science, and it has been done to death and does it need arguing about for the 50 million thousandth time?

    Some Japanese have very pale skin. Or so i have heard. I have never had the pleasure of rubbing up against them. Apparently their vaginas are of a different sort.

  91. That’s a joke by the way. With the advent of

    the internet + porn

    we now know that Japanese vagina is in its essential elements equivocal. (it’s not horizontal)

    The joke, back in the day before internet porn, was that Asian vagina was cross-wise.

    How that came to be a thing, has to be its own story.

    Anyways they like to be hairy, and of course they no longer circumcise their boys, but they did get sucked into that scheme, to some extent, as well.

    North Korea has the smallest penises in the world. Koreans in general ‘take the smallest size’ but you have to figure that in the North they are a little smaller due to malnutrition. Does it work that way, that penises diminish along with overall stature?

  92. elk, i don’t see how my comment in any way didn’t distinguish ‘whites’ from ‘others’ whose phenotype could technically classify as ‘white.’

    When I do broach that subject, I usually argue in favor of the point that you advanced in your above comment.

  93. elk, i don’t see how my comment in any way didn’t distinguish ‘whites’ from ‘others’ whose phenotype could technically classify as ‘white.’

    This following is the comment (of yours) that I was referring to:

    “Why do you say ‘that wouldn’t make her Russian? She was very typically (by my lights) Russian or whatever; i’d naively call her a ‘baltic beauty,’ in that she was very alabaster white and had quite stunning features; there was a real gleam to her face and facial-feature symmetries; sounds sorta silly, but it was tangible, man; this woman would go out in public and generate open, unshielded gawking by men and women alike at times.”

  94. LOL, from Jezebel:

    It will be hard for me, personally,

    Me me me me me! And right from the first sentence, it’s about her.

    to forget the dumbest advertisement ever released, second only to the one where Kendall Jenner solves police brutality with a can of soda, but Nivea certainly hopes I will.

    The skin care brand has pulled an ad that depicted a woman in white in a bright room with the words, “Keep it clean, keep it bright. Don’t let anything ruin it,” and “White is purity,” after people correctly called it out as something that looks like it’d be on the front desk of Hitler’s spa

    Nivea has a naughty advertising department. Thing is, “Keep it clean, keep it bright. Don’t let anything ruin it” very aptly articulates what’s on the minds of White people in a multicultural environment.

    Fuck yeah, White is purity.

    PS: I’m enjoying the nationalistic videos. Lothar’s Italian video (which I liked), interestingly, was in the Hard Rock format and that leads thought in a new direction. There is an anachronistic feeling in that form. Are there big cycles, and Metal styles are on the far side of that wheel, maybe meant to come back in a decade or two? The Russian rap video in the original post has the current feel. Being an appropriated style remade in the borrower’s image, it feels completely de-africanized, unlike the earlier non-political imitation rap/hip hop done by White artists.

  95. Straight Dutch men hold hands with each other in national act of solidarity in wake of a group attack on gay couple.

    Now formulate your idea of who the “Dutch teens” were who perpetrated the crime. (the answer is yes, they were exactly who you think they were:

    http://www.upworthy.com/dutch-men-around-the-world-are-holding-hands-in-support-of-a-gay-couple-that-was-attacked?c=ufb1

    http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/04/arnhem-gay-attack-teen-suspect-will-make-police-complaint-as-well/

  96. I don’t have much in the way of current knowledge of Western Europe. Last year briefly in Oslo and Copenhagen I did see young native male airport employees, and they all looked self-respecting if not outright tough/tatted.

    So where do they find all of those pussies? Are they outliers whom Fake Media opportunistically showcase to demoralize normal Dutchmen?

  97. elk, still don’t know exactly what you’re getting at re. white-vs-jewish identity/phenotype; by any assessment and reckoning, this woman was white; her’es the closest i can come to finding someone of her facial symmetry and skin tone, though the person in question was two or three shades lighter than even Seymour here…..

    https://writerrebelle.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/solitaire.jpeg?w=576&h=374

    I mean, does this woman look mongol, or some non-white sephardic Jewess to you? Actually, she was evne lighter than Seymour, and had more refined features and she would do goth-y things like wear black and use cherry-red lipstick to heighten that much more her apex-alabasterhood (yes, you’re inspiring me to new heights; I wish i could show her FB page; she has both pics of her now (mid 40s) and pics of her iconic youth FOB and in NY city.

    I went to a 50%+ Jewish high-school and i can tell you that “Jewdar” is a very imprecise science; in reality, its most consistent principle is this: For those comically classic Jewish-looking cases, there are times where you could not be wrong if you had any experience whatsoever.

    But: There are also many-upon-many cases in which you would could very, very easily think someone is Goy when in fact they are Jewish. Along those lines, there are also many people who you would have no clear indicating clues either way, and could be goy or jewish with the toss of a coin.

    Among the rare examples of those who do look jewish but aren’t, there’s Rachel Maddow’s providing the most blatant example of that rarer tendency:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Maddow

  98. Re. that video that Cam posted from upworthy.com featuring the pan-Northern-Euro hand-holding men in solidarity against the gay attack: do you think that is ‘fake news?’ Or at least highly exaggerated and in other ways manipulated footage? I mean, all these high-level politicos holding hands in protest around the world, including those in London, New York and Athens —– and it doesn’t crack the msm in America?

    I have a hard time believing those exhibitions of solidarity were that pronounced and undertook by men who were that high-profile; we would’ve heard about it more; i could see “Mika” on “Morning Joe” just waxing adoringly over those reports and vids.

    So where were they?

  99. still don’t know exactly what you’re getting at re. white-vs-jewish identity/phenotype; by any assessment and reckoning, this woman was white;

    Jews are not White.

    Or more precisely: In spite of that some of them are within the white phenotype AND genotype: in spite of that, they are not on Team White.

    It is quite feasible for an individual, say for instance a beautiful Russian jewess residing in Brooklyn, to be both jewish AND white — but at the same time, she cannot be both jewish and on Team White.

    That is somewhat subtle of a distinction, but it works.

    The jews by their nature are not on Team White. Even though a good percentage of them fall within the broader category of White, and enough so that if they anything but jews, they might be allowed.

    Jews are truly a special case, in regards to their identity and its relation to White Identity.

    For instance, an Arab who looks White enough, in my opinion, can be part of Team White. Same goes for a Persian. One ought not sperg out on it (too much).

    Though i suppose that the argument might be made that the precept holds for the Arab or the Persian, that if they remain Arab and Persian, that they can’t be on Team White, in spite of how White they may look.

  100. Spencer for all for faults said something poetic about the jews, and i am sure it was said before by some European and intellectual, that our history with the jews is long intense and ultimately tragic.

    We can’t imagine ourselves, without the jews.

    There is some syntactical ambiguity there, but it works both ways. We can’t imagine ourselves without the jews.

    I know that we sort of can, and I am not being black-pilled here, but that is a large theme, especially in America and the Modern World.

    And even especially if we put em all in ovens, then especially we can’t.

  101. There is something tempting about putting them all in ovens.

    It’s ridiculous, right? but then why do so many of the best thinkers come to that conclusion. I won’t name any names, but people who advocate for doing so are not plants. I think that they come to that conclusion honestly but the flip is that it’s not realistic in the sense that this is an imperfect world.

    Sending them all to Madagascar, on the other hand, is eminently feasible.

    Ultimately the solution to world politics is voluntary association. Sortocracy as Mr Bowery calls it.

    I for one do not call for putting anyone in the ovens. Except for drunk drivers, they need to be tortured and then slow roasted Huron style in front of their families.

  102. Elk: yes, she couldn’t be ” team white.” And she certainly fetishized NAM eroticism, as did her mother, red haired pianist, who actively encouraged her daughter’s promiscuity and/or monetizing her daughter’s sexuality.
    I consider that something the alt right commentariat could rightly chastise. And it was also something I too thought was unwholesomely decadent even if I couldn’t then fully explain why
    So chalk one up for the alt right charter ( somewhere miscgenation-dreading Thordaddy is enjoying a rejuvenating deep breath).
    Yeah, I can describe the angst of a politically correct blowjob.

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