Shots of Wisdom, Part 7

3 Tasks. Every White man alive today has three tasks before him: Wake up. Get his house in order. Do what he can.

Aspirational. A boy does not want to be told that it’s OK to be a slacker. A girl does not want to be told that it’s OK to dress like a stripper.

Display. Memes featuring White female beauty must be at most balanced with images of White men and when shown, they ought to highlight women’s maternal or domestic virtues. The men represent the race.

Fatherhood. Many of the older generations had failed to bond with their sons and daughters. Traditionally, culture and community picked up the slack on child-raising where fathers were too busy working. Everyone had his place and everyone had the kid’s back and each gave him a piece of his mind where needed. But when modernity disperses people, faith in the fake institutions that displaced community looks like complacency, complacency looks like abandonment, and abandonment begets retaliation. Kids today are very alone. The woke younger fathers know what their job is.

Friendship. This is hypothetical. Let’s say that a developer, in a public-private partnership, has secured the green light to cut the trees and erect multifamily housing near your home. You wish to deliver a message about polluting. Your mind is made up, the plan has been rehearsed to perfection, but you need another person’s assistance. Someone who has no responsibility toward others, likes action, and hates the Beast as much as you do. Do you have a friend who can help you?

History. I subscribe to some amount of historic determinism, in that we are bound to repeat our mistakes. Wisdom is of limited use because the young don’t learn from the old, while the old forget the urgency of youth. So maybe the reason to study history is to know who you are. Self-knowledge braces against erosion.

Immigrants. You shouldn’t feel sorry for the good ones when they have to go back. They too will put a knife in your back at first opportunity. They are friendly so long as you give but not take, and as long as you keep quiet about your natural rights. Try pulling the food bowl away from a stray dog.

Judgment. One day the boy will be 45 years old and he will judge his parents. The mother: was she kind and loving? The father: did he prepare me and tell me the truth?

Mind Over Matter. While running, imagine a hand pushing back at your chest. Then imagine a rope pulling you. Go back and forth between the two. Feels real, doesn’t it?

Pathological Altruism. That phrase glosses over centuries of extreme cruelty. Look up Jesse Washington to recall how we settle accounts with a rapist. Muh Scandinavian winters is incomplete anthropology applied to our forced playing of host to unwanted guests. A consultant who once traveled to Zimbabwe spoke effusively of the “warmth and kindness” of the native people. And he was right — gracious hospitality is normal when the host feels secure in his own land. Those same Africans are animals in Paris.

The Nordics also value prudence. To survive the winter, they tempered their altruism with censure on free-loading. It’s not pathological altruism that makes us so put-upon. As things stand today, the hosts are noticing the mess.

Progress. There is no such thing.

Unclean. “Cat” wasn’t always like this. But now she is a cheerleader for a child’s so-called gender reassignment surgery and is friends with the butcheress. A room full of people, festive mood. There are occasions when the material plane and something else intersect.

Cat and “Renee” talk about religion, with the former making an emphatic case for atheism (she wasn’t always like this) and the latter politely making an argument in support of faith. With that second glass of wine, Cat’s voice takes on an imploring note and she tells a story about a priest who was frank regarding the destination of souls. The Church, in her view, failed in its primary responsibility, which is to comfort the grieving. Renee’s husband interjects “That’s not the primary job of the Church.”

Cat’s eyes bug out, her mouth forms a silent wow just wow. But before the man can finish his sentence, which was probably that the job of the Church is to tell the truth for the purpose of saving souls, a boy — who up to that moment had been absorbed in play with other children — shouts across the room at Cat: “Are you deaf or what!?

Silence. He’s a kid who thinks before he speaks and this was out of character. Every adult in the room sits awkwardly. His father then takes him by the hand and gently tells him to apologize to his aunt. He does, looking at her warily the entire time. She accepts the apology graciously, and reaches to give him a hug. He recoils so she can’t touch him.

The Will To Live. Like trees that adjust their angle of growth to stay upright when soil underneath them shifts, so do we create homogeneous micro-habitats in own own lives. Sometimes I am in awe of ordinary people’s effortless securing of clean space, no matter the vector of the new assault. With open eyes you see it everywhere and the wellsprings of life therein. “Children should always be better-off than their parents,” hiss the blind through their perfect fake teeth. Yeah, but what if the very existence of those who follow is a victory dance in its own right?

This longest night is our trial. Some lose their minds and throw themselves into the abyss. Others trust the invisible laws that guide us toward the sun, with or without the forebrain’s consent. It’s not morning yet, whispers the boy who woke up from a nightmare.

***

Part 6 was about globalism.

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74 thoughts on “Shots of Wisdom, Part 7

  1. “Display. Memes featuring White female beauty must be STOPPED”

    White Men did 99% the work to build the West, and receive the appropriate amount recognition. White Women are not remarkable except to the extent that they produce us.

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  3. This is hypothetical. Let’s say that a developer, in a public-private partnership, has secured the green light to cut the trees and erect multifamily housing near your home. You wish to deliver a message about polluting. Your mind is made up, the plan has been rehearsed to perfection, but you need another person’s assistance.

    Funny you should ask. There are plans for a paved trail down along the River, which trail is in the name of Progress, and ironically and as usual, the people who care and spend time down there, are 100 per cent against it.

    It would be a real shame if their heavy equipment were to be consistently not working, due to some reason.

    In other parts of the world, heavy equipment such as for that work, is not left after hours unguarded. Resourceful and desperate people will get their hands on it.

  4. Re: Friendship, one of the greatest successes of our foes, be they were globalist or foaming out the mouth SJW, was wiping out any groups that might oppose them. It is reasonable to assume, at least to 2015, that there was no anti-establishment group that wasnt compromised. The ELF cells and incarcerated groups being exceptions that prove the rule.

    The Irgun formed from an environment, as did the OAS. What shall be their future counterpart?

  5. HIstory and Immigration. I have been thinking about these topics lately, and want some feedback and opinions.

    Did we name our country wrong?

    A person from Mexico is a Mexican. Very specific. A person from Canada is a Canadian. Also specific. Swiss from Switzerland, Japanese from Japan, etc., you get the idea.

    But our country is called The United States of America. That’s actually not very specific. Shouldn’t we have named our new nation something like “Piedmont” or “Smith” or “The Republic of XYZ” or something?

    This vague-ness about our name doesn’t not suggest a specific people, like the Swiss or the Swedes or whatever. So when someone says they’re an American, it doesn’t seem very specific, since the Americas also include North, South,and Central America.

    One could say that a Mexican is an American, that a Chilean, or a Bahamanian, or a Costa Rican is an American.

    By naming our country a specific name, a person might better understand how they can or can’t become a “Piedmontian” or a “Smithian”, just like I know I can’t become a Japanese or a Chilean just by moving there.

    I hope I explained that okay. Just a thought – please discuss.

  6. SoCalMike, the term “American” worked perfectly well for a few hundred years. Whatever the nation was called, it would have been Lazarused just as easily. (I just invented that term. “To Lazarus: the process of convincing a nation, through continual psy-ops operations, that citizenship is meaningless and any human on earth is equally a part of that nation as those who lived there for many generations.”)

    “I know I can’t become a Japanese or a Chilean just by moving there.”

    Of course not, that only works in white nations. You certainly CAN move from Somalia to Sweden and bingo! you’re a Swede. However, the reverse is never true. It’s an odd paradox. Something to do with string theory, I think. I can’t explain it otherwise.

    OT for Nikcrit: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

    The cover-up is coming apart. OF COURSE Obama had Trump “wire tapped.”

  7. I knew it. Trump is not dumb and Obama is a lot more conniving than he tries to portray himself. Trump has his number.

  8. Progress. There is no such thing.

    You also mean (say your thought on history) that there is no fundamental change.
    So that means that:

    1) Human reality doesn’t get better with the passing of time
    2) Human reality doesn’t change, not more than superficially

    And yet, if we wanted to stick to your ideology of humans, we’d see how who were alphas (had the most power) as late as 3 centuries ago (and ever before then) have marginal power now, while the were-gammas and others who’d do awfully bad in the previous hundreds of thousands of years are those with the power now.

    Technology has changed and is going to further change the life of humans, and relations between different kinds of the thereof.
    At a certain point, neurons replaced muscles and sheer quantity as the source of power.
    Until very recently, those who can access the “upper levels of the New York Times building” (see An Obituary of The New York Times by Wahlstrom) would have fared quite poorly. Now they exert great power.

    Another example. I think that 50 years from now human babies will be produced in labs, like more or less every other form of life (and new ones). Big, paradigm-shifting changes are ahead, and there may be nothing left of old morals, mores, and structures like family.

    Where progress means change we have to say that there is progress, and not let our dislike of it alter our foresight.
    When you have a generation of laboratory-made humans of average IQ 140 or 150, all having access to as-yet unthought technology, all rules that still barely apply today are going to wear off.
    No way, and maybe no right for anyone, to establish if it will be a better world or life; what’s beyond question is much is changing deeply (and I see you hate it).

  9. One day the boy will be 45 years old and he will judge his parents. The mother: was she kind and loving? The father: did he prepare me and tell me the truth?

    I respect my mother and father as people, and as one adult to another.

    But as parents they failed to protect me when I was most vulnerable.

    I would never have agreed to having my genital altered and reduced.

    It is an indictment on “my people”, White Americans such as they are, that they allowed 100 million of their baby boys, to be cut up and reduced. (The correct term is mutilated, though it is hot potato of a phrase and as such does not facilitate communication.)

  10. Ulric: that is precisely why anti-Whites have been going for the gut (working class) and not so much for the head (educated class). What are we without foot soldiers? This is also why they crack down so hard on White criminals, since we in fact do have a robust underclass — that much more the reason to sentence hell-raisers to 28 years in prison for driving around with a Confederate flag.

    Elk: I thought about “protect” for father’s job, but I wanted to keep it simple. “Prepare and tell the truth” still sat with me as too complex, but both seemed equally important. Protection, I guess, is a given with regards to both parents.

    Your Favourite Gamma: good question. I am drafting a stand-alone post that addresses it.

  11. If you read Heartiste today, he had a post “Underground Resistance” in which he referenced a reader who reported that he’s seen my proposed AltRight logo spray-painted over some lib graffiti. That was fucking awesome. I’ll frame such a photo in my living room if I ever come across one. Maybe they’ll become so common, I’ll see them around and take the photos myself.

  12. YFG…

    You are missing the fatal flaw of the high IQ class as epitomized by the likes of an Elk, Moldbug and perhaps yourself…

    *You* fellows are anti-objective Supremacists (read: egalitarian at your core) and faithless as it regards your right to existence from your beginning. Thus, *you* are, collectively, high IQ self-annihilators.

  13. At the very bottomless pit of the high IQ “white” male psyche is an entirely mechanized “conception” in no way evidencing a will to live.

    To reject the possession of a God-ordained free will just is to passively assent to “universal equality.”

    Such rejection turns male genital mutilation into salad-making.

  14. peterike: The cover-up is coming apart. OF COURSE Obama had Trump “wire tapped.”
    The cover-up is coming apart. OF COURSE Obama had Trump “wire tapped.”

    Lara March 22, 2017 at 5:08 pm
    I knew it. Trump is not dumb and Obama is a lot more conniving than he tries to portray himself. Trump has his number

    What? That story doesn’t vindicate the claim and even says as much. But I guess that’s enough for Trump to say he feels “somewhat vindicated.” And while it may not matter in your desperate search for cover, the story never says that Obama himself did anything; it suggests that some of Trump’s team was surveilled incidentally of people connected to the new administration form investigations preceding Trump’s election.

    So that vindicates Trump’s claim about Obama specifically?

    lara, btw, your comment on the matter sounds more like a prayer than it does a reply. lol…

    It doesn’t matter; I don’t want him to be nailed for that casual slander, anyhow; most everyone knows he said it and knows he didn’t really mean it. And that same recklessness will get him into another, possibly deeper dilemma within another week or so anyhow.

    I just want him to get his three major planks done —— and i said before he was inaugurated that his stupid vanity would get in the way and that he’d create enemies and gridlock in no time.

    And he’s done just that. And y’all know it.

  15. p.s.—

    Trump’s “I feel somewhat vindicated” riff is reminiscent of Bill Clinton’s “I did not have sex with THAT woman,” line.

    Personally, I wish the matter was over—- my anger about it was that it was a unnecessary hurdle he erected that could only get in the way of getting his agenda done.

    But somehow I feel sure that he’ll find some other problem to get stuck in.

    [can you give the Trump-love a rest until you can point to something substantial? –PA]

  16. I don’t know if Obama had him wiretapped. Honestly, I don’t know why he would, he wasn’t running against him. I just didn’t think Trump made it up out of think air. I’m guessing he had credible information. I’m wondering if it is a common thing to do to your political opponents. Obama has said he plans to oppose Trump, if he feels that it is necessary. Obama is the most powerful person in the Democratic Party right now. If he says something, Democrats will listen. Because of that reason, I don’t think Trump can really consider him a friend. Trump might be trying to let people know Obama is not the saint he is being portrayed as. It is not going to be easy, though, since Obama is popular.
    If Trump just said it to say it, yeah, he needs to stop speaking impulsively. A president doesn’t have the luxury of doing that.

  17. Black people seem to have trouble seeing one of their own as anything other than a victim. Truth be told, Obama is very likely the most influential person in this country right now, I think Trump knows this and rightfully sees a threat.

  18. So that vindicates Trump’s claim about Obama specifically?

    “Obama” can stand for his whole regime, right? When you said “Obama got Bin Laden” it didn’t mean that he personally landed with Seal Team Six and shot Osama in the head, right?

    The New York times long ago reported that Obama’s office sought approval for various wiretaps and/or FISA court orders to surveille members of the Trump campaign, and various judges kept rejecting the orders, until the administration kept reducing the scope of what they asking for, along with putting the request in the names of others (such as the FBI or DoJ)

    While it’s true that Trump NEVER should’ve blurted out that he thought Obama had him “wiretapped” in public (as nothing could be gained from that and it’s bad form) we can say OTOH that it’s just not that far fetched that the highest levels in his office had every intention of performing some surveillance on Trump and the campaign. It’s plain knowledge that law enforcement had already been monitoring Paul Manafort quite legally, and maybe Michael Flynn as well.

  19. To reject the possession of a God-ordained free will just is to passively assent to “universal equality.”

    Argument by assertion, and demonstrably absurd.

    Two rocks for instance. Neither has will, free or otherwise. And by no one’s reckoning are they equal.

    Two dogs. Maybe they have free will, maybe they don’t. But in either case they are not the same, and they are not equal.

    Two humans, …

    You’ll have to try harder, thor. And on the personal, try worrying more about yourself. Using other people’s posts as material with which to remonstrate bespeaks a lack of creativity, not to mention courtesy.

  20. “Obama” can stand for his whole regime, right? When you said “Obama got Bin Laden” it didn’t mean that he personally landed with Seal Team Six and shot Osama in the head, right?

    And they still won’t give Al Gore credit for inventing the internet.

    But “the Germans” better damn well keep in mind who was responsible for the Holocaust. (them very own selves)

    And white men be oppressin’ women and peoples of color. (all of us)

    It kind of confusing, frankly it seems very situational!

    Anyways that Seal Team 6 wasn’t just a video game?

  21. The argument with Nikcrit seems to be based on that he doesn’t allow that the entire Establishment, nka the Deep State, is against him no matter what he does.

    The Establishment and Trump are opposed. The way things are going down is consistent with that pattern.

  22. The argument with Nikcrit seems to be based on that he doesn’t allow that the entire Establishment, nka the Deep State, is against him no matter what he does.

    The “Deep State” is a concept that really confuses many people, partly because it can’t be easily labeled as left or right.

    It’s really not that “deep” of an idea. It’s just a bunch of entrenched left/right bureaucrats who’ve grown so powerful that they functionally operate as an independent organ/5th column. Like any group of people that becomes large, it starts to develop its own culture, language markers and entrenched political interests.

    Trump has taken aim at massive bureaucracy, and these people (rightfully) see it as a threat to their power. It’s very much akin to what Bannon says when he says “the administrative state” – it’s the culmination of the ever-growing bureaucracy that jumped in size under Clinton, Bush and Obama, whose ultimate goal was to roll pretty much all of American life under the thumb of some federalized czar-dom run from Washington.

    It’s that simple.

  23. It’s very much akin to what Bannon says when he says “the administrative state”

    yes, I’ve always taken ‘administrative state’ to be purely synonymous with “deep state.” I think that’s within the contexts you see the terms being used.

    Why? The vast growth of USG jobs that pay over $100K a year since the 1980’s.

    Yeah, I recall seeing that, too; I sorta wonder when PA goes on about “non-talented-tenth” blacks with good jobs, etc.; I believe it, ‘cuz i’ve seen it referenced numerously by those living in that area. But you don’t see a lot of that in my neck of the U.S.of A.

    So….where do I apply? Lol…

  24. yes, I’ve always taken ‘administrative state’ to be purely synonymous with “deep state.”

    Well, the administrative state also refers to a climate of over-regulation – which went off the charts (federally) under Obama and has always been the norm for state govt in high-cost liberal places California. The logical end of years of such over-regulation is an entrenched bureacracy that starts to function like a cancerous organ in the body.

    The deep state is the version of this in foreign service/intelligence.

    It’s pretty logical that a lot of Trump’s troubles stem from his well-known goal of cutting the budget and size of the State Department. He’s been pretty blatant about it – I think the budget he proposed last week cuts State Dept. funding by something in the neighborhood of 30%.

  25. So….where do I apply? Lol…

    Well, if you really wanted a career change I’d suggest leveraging your writing background to move into IT Project Mgmt. Well into six-figures++ $$ jobs with great technology companies are plentiful but you’d be giving up your whole summer off for only 3-4 weeks of annual PTO.

  26. https://orthosphere.wordpress.com/2016/07/21/another-response-to-alrenous-claim-that-free-will-is-analytically-impossible/#comments

    At some point though we must push past our uncontrollable desire to see an Alrenous as simply mistaken versus diabolical. Clearly high IQ, his schtick is convincing the (white) mass that they are void of free will slimultaneously falsely filling this void with a counter vision of human-exceeding A.I.

    Yet…

    The real result is an increasingly chaotic mish mash of human-like SUBOPTIMAL A.I.

    We already have A.I. and its masters DENY objective Supremacy.

    And Alrenous sells their wicked frame. — thordaddy

    You are standing in no-man’s land, Elk.

  27. https://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/06/post-evolutionary-man.html?m=1

    The great puzzle is that Western self-annihilation falsifies modern evolutionary theory and PROVES God-ordained free will.

    Roosh’s next logical step — now that he has accepted collective self-annihilation as falsifying evolution — is to accept, AT LEAST, some individuals in possession of God-ordained free will and others totally lacking such “thing” BY CHOICE. At some point in the near future, “man” will differentiate into a class of free willed men and a class human-like suboptimal AI. thordaddy

    This ^^^ was during my pre-ban days proving conclusively that Vox Day will shoot those to his right as long as he is targeting a white Supremacist.

  28. We all are in a no man’s land.

    In a metaphysical way, that is the human condition.

    In a practical way, White Americans (and other Whites outside of Hungary) are in a no-man’s land in that they have no political representation.

    And then also, as a grown and childless man, that is another category of no-man’s land.

    That last is a “personal problem” but it is directly related to the larger picture.

  29. RE: I’d suggest leveraging your writing background to move into IT Project Mgmt. P

    Not to get too personally off-topic here, but please quickly tell me how in arts critic/reporter background can serve the aspirations of IT Project Mngmnt???
    I seriously don’t see the connect there…

  30. “Display. Memes featuring White female beauty must be at most balanced with images of White men and when shown, they ought to highlight women’s maternal or domestic virtues. The men represent the race.”

    White Women are not that attractive*, and are only noteworthy because of what White Men have accomplished. To the extent you see WW idolized, etc., it is to antagonize and belittle White Men. White Women need a hard fall off the pussy pedestal now if we’re going to restore any equilibrium. The instant they took sides with the “oppressed” class – they became the enemy.

    *Asians, Persians, White-ish Arabs/Turks/Latinas, etc. are all at least equal to WW. I’d place Japanese women in the top slot.

    Basically WW are only unique in having different eye/hair colors. Big fucking deal.

  31. Women of other races can be good-looking.

    American women in their present form, tend toward obesity.

    There was a goofy video making the rounds on facecream, and it was of a big show horse at the rodeo, doing some classic cowboy two-step moves, surrounded by three cowgirls and one cowboy who were doing the same steps.

    And the joke was, that the women were all bigger than the horse. (The joke was supposed to be that the horse was dancing.) But these cowgirls were dancing hippos. And not only were they huge, they were huge in that county fair prizewinning pig way.

    The one woman, the biggest of them all, could probably for real squat 500 lbs, on the spot and without training. State fair quality.

    And then the other noteworthy fact was that the best dancer was the cowboy, and not the cowgirls, and not the horse.

    So things are a little fucked up.

    The other thing about American ‘girls’ is how many of them are on drugs. Psych meds on the one hand, and alcohol on the other. Between those two things, probably more than half of the young women are addicted at least to some degree, to drugs. And that modifies a personality and shows in the face too.

  32. “Between those two things, probably more than half of the young women are addicted at least to some degree, to drugs.”

    When the actual percentage of American women between the ages of say 20 and 40, who are using prescription psych meds and or alcohol, is reasonably estimated to be at least … what, 40?

    So that leaves more than half of them who are not on drugs.

    What percentage of those who are not on drugs, have healthy eating habits? Half of those maybe?

  33. — The men represent the race.

    This first occurred to me several years ago at an airport, when I saw those giant-screen ads for various airlines. There was an Air France ad featuring a beautiful stewardess juxtaposed with (I think) Emirates Airlines ad showing two galloping horses. Not men technically but you get the idea. Around the same time I saw this poster for Toronto university White Student Union:

  34. In the 1970s, the face of East Asia was their male martial artists, samurai, even sumo wrestlers, and only occasionally the exotic dragon lady. It’s not for the best (for E. Asians) that their attractive women have since come to prominence in advertisement and popular culture.

  35. *Asians, Persians, White-ish Arabs/Turks/Latinas, etc. are all at least equal to WW. I’d place Japanese women in the top slot.

    I don’t recall ever hearing a similar sentiment in AR forums; my anecdotal hunch would be that in general AR blogs fetishize European females.

    I agree that there are ‘others’ that rank as high in terms of visual aesthetics as well. But I would also venture that European females, in the modernist era to the present, roughly mid-to-late 1800s to today, are the closest thing by far to a universal standard and aspiration of aesthetics and beauty. The west by far presents the most unified package of looks, promotion, literary reification and consequential cultural aspiration along beatific lines.

    No other culture comes close IMO.

  36. “Fetishize” is an unusual word choice here. It’s normally applied to someone liking exotic women, not his own.

  37. @PA,

    Yes,that was a bit off; more like “idealize” or ‘pedestalize” and intended as a general descriptive rather than in a critical context.

  38. It isn’t surprising the cowboy was a better dancer than the cowgirls. I’ve seen that many times.

  39. We all are in a no man’s land. — Elk

    You should speak for yourself. But more importantly, you should recognize your personal desires.

    You double-down as a “white” self-annihilator and refuse to come to grips with the consequences of BELIEVING that you are devoid of God-ordained free will.

    So where you sense that you are not wholly intact, re., your circumscision, you CHOOSE the necessary default assumption which justifies and makes rational a perpetual lamentation of this personal understanding. In other words, knowing that you are devoid of God-ordained free will AND you are not wholly intact, your FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF as a self-annihilator is that you were never and will never be perfectly intact.

    Now, from the outside perspective, your belief that “nothing is perfectly intact” renders the idea of “not being wholly intact” completely arbitrary.

    So this is where you are at, Elk, as a self-annihilator and one who rejects his God-ordained free will.

    Rejecting the Truth of being Holy Intact while relentlessly despairing over not being wholly intact.

    Yet, it is even worse BECAUSE you teach this twisted mindset to the masses without any self-awareness of doing such a thing.

    So I help you see.

  40. The reality is that the faggot “jewhite” archetype exists for the very purpose of deconstructing the Truth of Being Holy Intact. And many a mad high IQ “white” minions are in on this diabolical deconstruction.

  41. Being Holy Intact > being wholly intact > being merely intact > being not intact…

    And so the manner in which to make “being not intact” the new normal is to make “Being Holy Intact” the deleterious delusion of a dwindling dank of dogmatic despots.

  42. So this is where you are at, Elk, as a self-annihilator and one who rejects his God-ordained free will.

    Rejecting the Truth of being Holy Intact while relentlessly despairing over not being wholly intact.

    Yet, it is even worse BECAUSE you teach this twisted mindset to the masses without any self-awareness of doing such a thing.

    I do despair, every day. And since I come on here and complain, your observations on that are not remarkable. (In my arguments with the other regulars, they too have made the observation that I complain a lot.)

    On the topic at hand, which is free will, you have asserted that it is ordained by god.

    So in other words, it is to be taken on faith.

    I have no faith in our religion of Christianity, because Christianity, in my experience, is corrupted by the jews.

    I wish it were not so. As it stands, I can not “in good faith” have anything to do with it.

    **********************

    Free will cannot be demonstrated.

    Quite simply. It is impossible to know that what appears to us as free will, is anything other than a trick to keep us motivated.

    Consciousness is self-evident, but free will is a device that helps us to navigate our lives through time.

    Anyways that is my opinion.

    How can free will be demonstrated, then?

  43. Free will cannot be demonstrated. — Elk

    This ^^^ is beside the point. And in your case, this is utilized to smother the point.

    And the point being…

    That YOU SUFFER for NOT BELIEVING in your God-ordained free will.

    You SUFFER BECAUSE you reject the idea of being perfectly intact.

    But lastly, YOU DRAW OTHERS INTO your suffering which you then claim has an origin external to yourself.

    In other words, you do not choose to make “free will” not demonstrable. It just is and there is no suffering consequences to this belief.

    And yet there are demonstrated sufferings in those who deny the reality of God-ordained free will.

    And Elk is “it.”

  44. But lastly, YOU DRAW OTHERS INTO your suffering which you then claim has an origin external to yourself.

    No, rather YOU are drawn into it because you have nothing better to do.

    Seriously. You could demonstrate your free will by not being drawn into this.

    Except that you want to be, like a moth to a flame, to fulfill your own programming, which has to do with what image of yourself you think is being vindicated in this exchange.

    Hahaha

  45. In other words, you do not choose to make “free will” not demonstrable. It just is and there is no suffering consequences to this belief.

    And yet there are demonstrated sufferings in those who deny the reality of God-ordained free will.

    Whether or not free will is demonstrable is entirely the point. Free will being demonstrable is the essence of what free will be.

    What possibly can free will be, if it is not demonstrated, and nor can it be?

    If free will cannot be demonstrated, then it is a meaningless idea and not worth worrying or arguing.

    As for the second quoted paragraph, there is suffering for every creature that lives and dies. This is a Buddhist precept and an obvious statement.

    ********************

    Relevant to this argument,

    I accept and maintain a central idea of Will, behind everything that it is to be human. It is the “free” part that is a human delusion and the equivalent of a superstitious faith.

    **************

    I would add that the first quoted paragraph is not entirely clear to me, in its intended meaning. However, my response to it above, stands.

  46. The only demonstration of free will, that might be convincing, is suicide.

    And though that sounds like a cheap joke, it is very much the deal.

    Whatever this exchange might be worth, for me personally I would say that the idea of “free will” does not make sense in that it seems to require an individual to inhabit and enact, alone and removed and apart, from his environment.

    Is not that what the concept of “free will” denotes?

    I am not a philosophy major, but that is what it implies to my understanding, and why I reject it.

    The concept of will, on the other hand, does not have that as a part of its meaning.

  47. There was a writer who was obsessed with that connection, between free will and suicide, so it is not an original idea.

    As I recall, it was either Gambling Man Fyodr D, or one of the basket-case 20th-century Frenchmen. I hope it was the former, as that lends more to my argument.

  48. Arthur Koestler, whatever you think of him, wrote a essay on free will later in life. I read it in my early 20s and don’t recall much from it, except that his conclusion was affirmative — there is free will, with a caveat. Again, it’s been a while and I haven’t been able to find the essay online, but he used a metaphor of driving a car for going through life. When things are predictable and routine, you settle into what amounts to a surrender of free will. But when forced to decide and act, free will is at your disposal. So it’s something you have to, well, will.

    He committed suicide.

  49. Finally, credit where due. Thor’s analysis is not off the wall.

    My loss of faith in the social structures of this society are about how those social structures have done me, and that does inform my worldview and philosophy.

    How can one ever be free, having been branded?

    Any free will that exists, is contained and constrained by the social and biological “circumcisions” imposed upon it.

  50. The last Shot Of Wisdom in the O.P. was originally an impromptu draft of a response to Elk’s musing last Sunday about Dieversity. It got too bloated so I trimmed it down to a length that was too thin for a freestanding post, so it ended up here.

  51. The great puzzle is that Western self-annihilation falsifies modern evolutionary theory and PROVES God-ordained free will. — thordaddy

    The only demonstration of free will, that might be convincing, is suicide. — Elk

    I’ve said many times that high IQ “white” male’s most cherished right is his right to self-annihilation,

    What you fail to grasp, Elk, is what fundamental assumptions you need to HOLD DEAR in order to rationalize and justify this desire for self-annihilation, i.e., ideologically-induced suicide.

    Your default assumption is anti-(objective) Supremacy, i.e., anti-Perfection. Subsequent consequence… Anti-white Supremacist.

    KNOWING that you were never perfectly intact BY THE FACT that you are not wholly intact GIVES YOU the right to self-annihilation.

    That’s your high IQ programming.

    This is WHAT JEW BELIEVE.

  52. We all are in a no man’s land. — Elk

    You should speak for yourself. But more importantly, you should recognize your personal desires. — thordaddy

    It’s a rhetorical device you nitwit.

    And secondly, you giving advice is ignoring the very same. Uh, hello, anyone home?

  53. The post upthread by yours truly about being in no man’s land, which thordaddy criticizes, is typical of the high quality this handle assumes.

    And but thordaddy uses it for a personal missive. Tedious.

    I know it’s the internet, there’s always vultures.

  54. It’s a rhetorical device you nitwit. — Elk

    Yes… The very purpose of which was to persuade the readers that our antithetical beliefs lead to the exact same “no man’s land.”

    In other words, your rhetorical device is meant to make cover for your “equalitis” infection.

    So you are the actual vulture… A perpetuating self-annihilator who absolutely refuses to give his fundamental beliefs the deleterious credit such beliefs are due.

    Your high IQ is a deadly “attribute.”

    Who cares about my average IQ?

  55. Forget about Christianity…

    Forget about Christ…

    Forget about Jews…

    Forget about niggers…

    Forget about miggers…

    Forget about mudsharks…

    Forget about homodykes…

    Forget about Nazis…

    Forget about Commies…

    Forget about jihadists…

    Forget about Buddhists…

    Forget about Hindus…

    Forget about everything…

    And then realize that YOU, Elk, do not believe in The Perfect “Elk.”

    Now your “no man’s land” is your VERY OWN and not equal to any others’ “no man’s land.”

  56. The idea that the dummies are accountable is just the kind of wretched thinking only the “intelligent” people could contrive.

    High IQ “white” male IS WHOLLY ACCOUNTABLE for the downfall of our country.

    He thinks he can blame the dummies?

    So he double-downs with perpetuating self-annihilation and hides amongst them.

    Hello… Is any “Elk” home?

  57. “White” self-annihilators won’t own their shit.

    And high IQ “white” self-annihilator SELLS “white suicide” with prophetable outcome.

    Their “rhetorical device” is the omnipotence of an entity which HARDLY exists. Yet, this is not a paradox, rather, it is a frightening reality.

    Only ONE white Supremacist suffices to falsify “universal equality.”

    Which former self-annihilator will be next?

  58. The Gridlock in America and Europe and the rest of the White World is so unresolvable, and it is more apparent every day.

    I don’t mean to be black pill about it — but when you think what it would actually take, to effect a solution that is satisfactory to

    1) White people
    2) other people

    Wow just wow.

    But that is not the point of this comment.

    ***************

    The point I want to make, is regards the topic of circumcision. First of all, I know how it can be tedious.

    But it is an opportunity for the AR to seize the high ground, the high moral ground with regards to human rights!

    I was going to have to write a long essay, but it turns out the point is very simple.

    The topic of circumcision is very ‘hot’ right now, believe it or not. There is a big film that is coming out, or already out or something, called The Elephant in the Hospital. (great name, obviously)

    But this issue aligns with two things

    1) Human rights, and the abuse of same
    2) White interests, and health of white men in America, and the neglect of same

    The AR and more broadly, White Advocacy has a problem in its ‘perception management’ and its ‘image’.

    I have addressed this problem before, or at least made an effort to do so, in talking about our aesthetics. It is our aesthetics that need to appeal to people.

    That is not marketing or branding or some jewish trickery — aesthetics are a white thing. Or but actually they are not. See that is the problem.

    That is why the younger generation in the 60s rebelled, in America and in South Africa. The younger white generation in South Africa in the 70s did not want apartheid because of its ugly aesthetics.

    So how does it tie in with genital integrity?

    Well it’s obvious; it doesn’t need explaining.

    [submitted as comment w/o editing]

  59. Circumcision and the Moral High Ground, and the AR’s Opportunity to Seize It

    The topic of genital integrity is touchy, pun intended blah blah blah and to say the least.

    On the personal level, it is a private matter, and a grief stricken one for sensitive people with human feelings — which realistically, excludes a good portion of Trump voters. Let us not kid ourselves about the human quality in America.

    So within the internet and real-world culture of the AR, it is a topic that is treated with the same discretion that it receives at large. People don’t want to talk about it because it is a generational divide, for one.

    Among the older generations, they don’t know that the younger generations feel differently, and woe indeed to the last kids in America getting their genitals cut. Unlike my generation, they won’t at least have the comfort and solace of knowing that almost all their peers suffered the same fate. And further, they won’t be spared the very real evolutionary disadvantage of reduced genitals. They will be exposed and ridiculed. And it will be very hard on them.

    This topic is undergoing a preference cascade, right now.

    So the AR could use it as a plank, with which to make their case.

    We White Americans got screwed out of everything, not only our country, but our very penises.

    And the god-damned thing about it, is that it is an accurate indictment of the powers at play.

  60. I have always thought that the manosphere and the AR have come up short, on this topic.

    I don’t like to talk about it neither — but it is not as if it isn’t a god-damned central thing.

    We like to pretend like we are fact-based, but this of all evidence of White Americans getting rolled is not something to consider?

    And to repeat myself — it is an opportunity to align White interests with a broader cause that has widespread appeal among people of good will and conscience.

  61. Elk, everybody back in the 70s and 80s behind the “unfree iron curtain” knew about Americans and their boy-mutilation and the Jewish stranglehold on neonatal medicine. Right or wrong, fact or myth, Eastern Europeans understood the camouflage motive behind the pushing of that practice.

  62. So are you saying that you Iron curtain boys from the 60s/70s/80s still have your knob hoods intact?

    I’m circumcised and judging from casual locker room observsation from middle-school through high-school, my, um, circumstance is among the 95%-and-up club; very few were uncircumcised and i think they were even sometimes teased for being the relative odd ducks.

    Also, based on elk’s modern-day reminders, i actually asked my mom about it and she said she and other women from the time were asked shortly before delivery if they wanted their sons to be sheathed or unsheathed.

    I do know that i’ve thought about the subject may once or twice for ten-of-fifteen seconds since then until elk began constantly bringing it up here.

  63. I’m not convinced circumcision will be the big winning issue of the Alt-Right, but European Christians (religiously or culturally) are, of course, not circumcised.

    I suppose this fact will also make things easier when “that” day comes.

  64. I’m not convinced circumcision will be the big winning issue of the Alt-Right

    Nor am I. It makes sense from a spergy point of view because it is logical and correct. The jews are responsible, however directly or however indirectly, and the symbolism of it PLUS the reality, is the perfect metaphor for our condition: except that it is not only a metaphor: it is the reality, and the ultimate example of how our nervous is altered and shaped and controlled.

    That is the origins of the ritual. That is the social and biological explanation of it. It is a form of social and biological control used by the jews, upon themselves, and upon others.

    That is not necessarily the agreed-upon consensus for its origins and explanations, but it is my summary and it is Occam’s razor and it is right.

    But it is unlikely as a winning plank, because it is sensitive and sexual, and in spite of the preference cascade, still taboo.

    *****************

    Lately it seems to me that the politics of our modern world are so complex and impossible, that things are just going to go to hell and get worse gradually, and then eventually war.

    Any political platform would do well to sell itself as an alternative to that catastrophe.

  65. A Hmong man in rural north-central Wisconsin went on a spree kill on Thursday. He killed four people, all White: three women including his wife’s attorney, and a police detective.

    http://www.twincities.com/2017/03/22/cop-at-least-2-others-shot-in-northern-wisconsin-town-suspect-in-standoff/

    I had not heard of this at all, in spite of its resonant themes (the Vang case in 2004), and they are not covering it at all.

    The Hmong for some reason have settled in the Upper Midwest, and unlike their more sophisticated and intelligent relatives the Vietnamese, they are ill-adjusted and tend toward schizo and violence.

    Also they are very ‘country’. And if they weren’t so alienated and ill-adjusted and hostile and malicious, they might fit well into rural Wisconsin.

    In this case, as in the Vang, browsing the stories, it is impossible not to be impressed by the shooters’ kill skills.

  66. “In this case, as in the Vang, browsing the stories, it is impossible not to be impressed by the shooters’ kill skills.”

    I am not being ironic there, of course.

    A lot of us here on the internet, and in real life for that matter, like to fantasize about being Joe Badass. (i certainly do)

    But I was listening to a Jack Donovan podcast (yeah that guy) on one of my favorite topics: Our Friends, the Dogs, and his guest who was an expert made the emphatic point on guard dogs, that most dogs even if they seem fierce, cannot be relied upon as effective attack dogs, unless they have been vetted and trained.

    I know a little about dogs, and that piece of information surprises me, and I question it. I would think most dogs’ attack skills could be predicted by their breed and their temperament. However, his guest was apparently an expert and emphatic on that point.

    But by way of extension, the same might be said about people, and in fact might be more reliably said about people, as people are more removed blood and claw.

  67. I was on my bike recently, on the sidewalk I came up behind (no homo) this guy and had to pass him. And it being the suburbs it can be desolate and fellow non-car people are an oddity and there is not a standard protocol to this.

    In the city one simply shouts “on your left” and way is made, but out here that is not how it works. If you shout at someone, or come up to unexpectedly, it is an imposition.

    And this guy was walking a dog, and there is only so much room. So I ride up to about twenty feet and stop and his dog is a German Shepherd pup and he has a buzz cut and square head and massive shoulders.

    But across his massive shoulders on the back of his shirt is another tell: ALL LIVE MATTER! all caps and yellow on blue. So yeah he is a cop and I hate him, but at least he has fellow anger issues and maybe is redeemable.

    Anyways I stare at the back of his head, he looks back and steps off the sidewalk.

  68. This is the trailer to our next movie, right? –Elk

    My feeling is that your conversion to wS, or lack thereof, will be, at least, (e)pic one way or the other. Epically visible or epically invisible, your perpetuating self-annihilation is not sustainable at an individual level. Your Final Liberation is inevitable and yet you resist satiation and then refuse the conversion.

    You LIKE “no Elk’s land.”

  69. It seems there are IQ thresholds…

    One such threshold is around the 140 mark and above and stands to signify a bona fide self-annihilator IMPERVIOUS to the concept of “being perfectly intact.”

    Another such threshold is around the 120 mark and below where one CANNOT CONCEIVE the absurdity of a high IQ anti-Supremacist.

    So it is somewhere in the 120-140 IQ window that one is able to conceive both “being perfectly intact” and that state of total self-annihilation where nothing is intact. Yet, merely possessing these mutually-existing conceptions neither necessitates synthesis nor necessarily provokes the potential of any possible synthesis.

    Per identity crisis, self-annihilating tendencies are fundamentally pathological and Being Holy Intact a certain remedy.

    Can *you* will it though?

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