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  2. The Confederacy
    Germany (Western Europe)
    Japan
    Yugoslavia
    Iraq
    Libya
    Syria
    (Iran? Russia? China?)

    The making of an American Thinking Class (Staloff)
    The Abolition Crusade and its Consequences (Herbert)
    The True History of American Revolution (Fisher)

    “During the 1840s and 1850s, the antislavery movement spread far beyond the handful of Massachusetts intellectuals who were the original abolitionists. And its features became extremely unattractive. Because it had no legal means to proceed, it resorted to illegal ones. Because the truth was that the North was attacking the South and trying to abolish slavery, its politicians had to assert that the South was attacking the North and trying to propagate slavery. Conspiracy theories abounded – such as Lincoln’s completely false charge that the Dred Scott decision was a conspiracy between Douglas, Buchanan, Taney and Pierce to bring about national slavery, as wild a lie as anything in American political history.

    By 1860, little that is human or humane can be found in the antislavery movement. Its engine runs on pure chimp rage.”

    “We start to see the effective strategy here. It is perhaps not a conscious one in anyone’s mind. (For example, it is quite plausible that the mixed messages sent about Sumter were simply a result of disorganization in the early Lincoln administration, although the conclusion that Lincoln, despite his speeches at the time, wanted a war and was happy to get one is unavoidable. It is really difficult to understate Lincoln’s sincerity.) Nonetheless, the strategy works quite well.

    The approach is one of camouflaged predation.
    We have an explanation for feature B, the tendency of the weaker party to attack. Sovereign rights, when not defended, tend to vanish. There is an accepted diplomatic term for what Seward and Lincoln, whatever did or did not pass between them, did at Sumter. That term is provocation. A provocation is an act designed, or reasonably expected, to cause the target to initiate hostilities.”

    “That was the whole point of the war: a rebellion. Japan and Nazi Germany fought because they wanted to be independent, as did Imperial Germany. They lost, so they became provinces in a world empire. That’s how it goes.

    Whereas the USA were already acting as a single world authority, which was called the “United Nations” even during the war. Ergo: what we are seeing here is a good old case of projection.”

  3. “For example, it is quite plausible that the mixed messages sent about Sumter were simply a result of disorganization in the early Lincoln administration.”

    No way. It was entirely deliberate. Most Americans haven’t even the slightest idea about Sumter. They think it was some Union fort that the South just decided to attack because racism. People don’t even realize it was in South Carolina.

    In other words, it was a Union held fort in what was now the Confederacy, placed strategically in the harbor of one of their most important cities. To get a sense of this, imagine a Confederate controlled fort in the port of New York or Boston.

    The Union would not abandon it, even though South Carolina had seceded (perfectly legally too, but that’s another story). And then Lincoln ordered a resupply of the fort!

    So yeah, the Rebels fired upon it. It was a show attack. No one was killed. The fort was surrendered. The Confederates had offered a peaceful surrender, but Lincoln had none of it, and thus used Sumter as an excuse.

    I would bet that 90% of Americans who have ever heard of Sumter (which is probably 20% of Americans overall) think it was an invasion into the north by the Confederates and an attack on a Union fort. But it was taking back a fort in their own state! Yet it was used for Union propaganda. And two weeks later Lincoln was blockading Southern ports, a genuine act of war, with Sumter as his casus belli.

    Again, the analogy of a similar fort in New York harbor is perfectly apt. OF COURSE the Union would have taken it back.

    The Civil War as genuinely understood is really a perfectly apt metaphor for what’s going on today. Lincoln and the Republicans were, simply put, the party of the bankers (fiat money) and the exploiters, who wanted to exploit the agrarian economy of the South to their financial benefit. Everywhere and always in the modern world, the bankers and fiat money are behind the scenes of our greatest conflicts.

  4. My dad grew up in middle Tennessee, and I’d see that flag every year when we’d go back on vacation to visit family. I have fond memories of that flag – and of what it means to be a Confederate. We’ve traced our lineage, and I’m qualified (?) to join the Sons of the Confederacy – I need to do that.

    The more I read about Lincoln, the more I don’t like him. O-ver-ra-ted, clap clap clapclapclap. I’ve even brought up some of his ‘foibles’ (understatement) to my high school seniors that i teach, and they are starting to see it, too. Their history teachers totally whitewash (liberal-ify) the truth, and once they find out, some of them get interested and want to know more.

    I wish i could convey how this generation of high school boys SOOOO want to change things – they are mad as hell, and every day i hear frustrations and complaints about ‘the way things are’. Did it start with Lincoln? Maybe. Probably earlier, but that’s when things changed…..and not for the better.

    It’s time for a split. Sooner rather than later.

    Oh, and Trump should have asked for Ryan’s resignation a long time ago. (off topic rant)

  5. I know north-central Tennessee very well, mid-1990s. Hiked and camped at the Land Between the Lakes, which was just forests and trails, camp wherever you want, even right over the water. Nobody else around for miles. LBL has (had?) buffalo ranges. I also rappelled from cliffs in that same area. Gorgeous countryside. The Confederate flag is inspiring to me. You start seeing it on homes and businesses once you drive two hours west of DC as the Appalachians begin. Yes, it’s the naval flag, and I also believe it’s a Virginia battle flag, as the CSA had various types of battle flags.

  6. Maybe because I’ve been there so often, but that area you mention is one of the prettiest areas east of the Mississippi. There is a golf course in Springfield that knocks my socks off every time we play there. Played there with dad on his 80th birthday. A memory I’ll cherish as long as I live. Thanks for the smile, PA.

  7. I was in the Nashville-area last year for the first time, and I’m itching to get back to central / eastern Tennessee to show my wife and scope it out for a potential relocation.

  8. I’ve felt differently about Lincoln ever since I read the article Steve Sailer wrote about him. I’m sure he had his good qualities, but anytime someone is deified I get suspicious.

  9. Corvo,

    I was once looking at TN as a possible destination to relocate, but don’t know much about the state and only know cities like Memphis are crap.

    I’m still toying with the idea of going to AmRen this year since it’ll be in TN and since I’ve never been to either (the conference and the state) I could kill two birds with one stone and get a better idea.

  10. Memphis is near the black belt/Miss Delta, very black and very dangerous. Corner chicken joint capital of the world. Pretty poor town, too.

    Nashville is very nice, upscale, pretty white and with huge entertainment industry. Every time I’ve gone out there it’s been full of hot 20-something college graduate girls from various schools around the region, and they’re conservative.

    Chattanooga is smaller but trendy and also very white overall (for a southern city) as it is in the mountains. Also lots of outdoorsy types in Chattanooga. Knoxville not as nice as those 2, more of a college town with a gritty industrial side.

    In general, Tennessee is much different than Georgia or the Carolinas as it is has much lower population of blacks, much fewer Hispanics, and even 5 miles outside of Nashville or Chattanooga you already see few minorities and have the true middle America feel.

  11. Mendo and Corvo – look at the Nashville metro area, at least 20 min outside of town. Mt. Juliet, Thompson Station, Gallatin, and Hendersonville – all four are nice starting points. When you’re there, make sure you go downtown and check out the clubs – lots of hipsters now, but it’s a lot of fun on the weekends.

    I’ll be back there again this summer – total eclipse in late August. As a science/engineering teacher/nerd, a total eclipse is something I’ve wanted to see my entire life.

  12. This is OT, but check out this story. Two black dudes in a chicken store are a few bucks short for their food. A “good Samaritan” offers to cover the gap. They beat the crap out of him, then some other bros roll him for his cash.

    The video tries to hide the victim, but at the end you can see his hands — a white guy!

    I can’t wait for the follow-up story when he “forgives” his attackers. Thus always to cucks.

    http://nypost.com/2017/03/15/man-in-critical-condition-after-chicken-joint-beatdown/

  13. @ Peterike – he might be a light-skinned Hispanic. Any whites in Flatbush would probably be gentrifiers/SWPL and not eating at chicken joint, right?

  14. SoCal Mike: …..I wish i could convey how this generation of high school boys SOOOO want to change things – they are mad as hell, and every day i hear frustrations and complaints about ‘the way things are’…..

    I’m curious to know more specifically what you’re getting at in terms of what they’re frustations. About what exactly? I have my guesses but i’d like to know what’s going on in today’s teen zeitgeist.

    Also, i’m curious what kind of socio-economic demo you teach in? White suburbanites? Or urban NAM enclaves? I work pub-ed semi-admin gig in the latter environment and one thing I’m very curious about is how my casual socio-observations would gel with fellow preps in a higher socio-economic realm; I’d LOVE to work for a few months in my old high-school, which was a high-performing public school in a city-adjoining suburb in the Midwest that was about 50% Jewish and no more than 5% NAM when i attended there, though that last figure has risen exponentially since I graduated. I would be very, very intrigued by such a venture.

    I don’t know what area of ‘SoCal’ you’re familiar with but when i went to L.A. a lot in the ’90s, I was familiar with some of the high-schools in the Valley via friends who had younger siblings and so forth, mainly Tarzana and Woodland Hills; i was always amazed at hwo these Cali ‘burb prep schools contrasted with my suburban Rustbelt school days, which were a come-to-life version of the school in “Dazed & Confused” but ten years later, lol!

  15. i was always amazed at hwo these Cali ‘burb prep schools contrasted with my suburban Rustbelt school days, which were a come-to-life version of the school in “Dazed & Confused” but ten years later, lol!

    Linklater is regarded as kind of the genius of his generation, which is sort of our generation.

    I see looking at his wiki that he was born in 1960.

    I have seen that movie a few times, and it’s good but not great. Ben Affleck is actually pretty cool. He is apparently after a few beers outspoken on the topic of male genital reduction aka circumcision, and I think his feelings on the matter are a part of the expression on his face, which is strong and masculine but always depressed.

    That movie is also sourced as the debut for Matthew McConaughey, who featured in the I Will Survive campaign clip for Hillary Clinton. How disappointing was that. What the fuck, Matt.

    The homoerotic element to the paddling of the freshman boys was overdone. But then again I was not on the football team and in Texas …

    The one element that Linklater really gets right is the babes. Those American girls in high school in the 70s were all tens. Literally all of them, back then, were 8s 9s and 10s. And it’s not like that today.

    People were healthier, for one. That was sort of the last virile age of America, was the 70s and their muscle cars. By the time the 80s rolled around, it was on the recede and there was a new aesthetic and it was gay. The Cure for instance, or the suitably named Replacements.

  16. Phew! I was glad you walked back that Replacements dis if yours.

    Self-deprecating? Yes.
    Homoerotic? No. (Though “Androgynous” was quite ambivalent in it’s message..

    Regardless, the Replacements were a incredible band. Top ten all-time in Nikcrit’s humble pantheon.

    FWIW, I think of Sub_elk here as a Paul Westerberg-like figure, down to his look, wit and self-deprecating reflexes—- and that’s at least two-thirds a compliment, elk!

  17. PAWORLDANDTIMES, Ummm timeliness: I happen to be watching a Tom Hanks-narrated tribute to Ken Burns’ Civil War doc series—– but somehow I sense that peterike isn’t reveling in it’s sense hagriographies nostalgia, no? Lol

  18. I am glad i walked it back too.

    The point I was going for was to use the Replacements as representative of a new scene and a new look, and a new era, as opposed to the 70s and rock-n-roll as “good time music” a la Boston and Aerosmith and Linklater’s memories.

    Both the Replacements and the Cure had good stuff for sure. The Replacements were too close to my own place and time. Suffice it to say that they were for what-was-then the alternative crowd who wore black. Which crowd was not the high-status jocks and athletes and rednecks and richies (unlike those others we didn’t use the word richies then but i like it now).

    My own tastes at the time were not so current. And also, as I was intimating, the Replacements and the Cure were considered somewhat gay, by the majority of the other students who were not wearing black.

    I came to appreciate the Cure particularly and on their merits, quite a bit later. At the time I was into AC/DC and Led Zep and Pink Floyd which were representative of my cliques.

    Which is the larger point that is worth re-emphasizing. We consciously separated ourselves from the “punk” scene that in our minds the Replacements were a part of.

    We strove to listen to Hank Williams, Jr., though the reality of that was a bit pretentious, and I don’t exaggerate to say that even then I thought it was pretentious that suburban kids were taking seriously the joke: If you don’t like Hank Williams you can kiss my ass.

  19. elk, I was much more happy to jump among genres; in my late teens and early 20s, it was more Prince and his scene in the Twin Cites that drew me in; by mid-20s I had bought into the Replacements quite hard…. Sometime in a music thread i’d like to discuss a sort-of racial crisis that the Replacements summoned in me, however bizarre that might sound…. it’s really powerful in my history and connected to other pop poses i’ve discussed and reckoned with, but right now it feels too divergent and indulgent a topic…… fwiw, i have a hard time reconciling your wit and ability to self-deprecate and other personal nuances and charms with being a classic 80s teen into Floyd, AC/DC and other run-of-the-mill classic rock desperadoes; I also don’t thnk of the Replacements as niche-synonymous with The Cure, for God’s sake; the latter I think of sort-of foppish poseurs that the former more or less defined themselves by casting itself as opposite to that.

    Plus, the Replacements age much, much better than other bands from that period IMHO; I truly think that Paul Westerberg’s solo stuff, beside late-era Replacements recordings, are truly land lasting great albums—– better than much of Prince’s and Dylan’s stuff.

    And I know how unpopular such an opinion is.

  20. NIkcrit – let me do my best to answer your question about my high school boys’ attitudes. First, i teach high school stem in the IE – our school is suburban, about 50% white, and the other 50% split almost evenly Black/Hispanic/Asian. We have very high test scores – tops in our district, and top three in [redacted]. My STEM program has less than 10% black, and maybe 20-25% hispanic/middle east. The rest white and asian. I’ve been teaching for 33 years.

    The white boys don’t like being around the NAMs – they tolerate the asians, but you can see derision in their eyes (and hear it in their voices) about the blacks. They are tired of the ‘brothers’ attitude they see every day. They are tired of their girls getting ‘jungle fever’. They talk angrily about not being able to start a White Students club (a la BSU, MECHA, etc.). But they can’t do anything about it, because the admin is cucked. They have been for years. We actually had a counselor on campus the day after the election to help students who were scared and upset. Really.

    They are mad about the illegals. They see the jobs being taken away. They hate the double sided notes being sent home with English on the front and Spanish on the back. They hate the privileges that the illegals get that they don’t. They hate that no one cares about the ‘takeover’ (reconquista?) that is happening right in front of them.

    They see America falling apart. They want the freedoms and liberties associated with America, but they see those freedoms and liberties going away. As you know, being an educator yourself, kids want fairness. They NEED things to be fair. (yeah, I know, life’s not fair, that’s not the point) They want EVERYONE to be treated the same, and when one group isn’t (in this case, the whites), they are pissed. And rightly so. I’m pissed, too.

    I make red pill references all the time – I hide it within a Keanu Reeves perspective (and the Walter MItty movie – an obvious red pill event is an important scene) – and I think the meaning is getting through to some. Because my STEM program is 75% male, I can talk to them about this kind of thing. I also am one of the most outspoken ‘conservative’ (quotes intentional) teachers on campus – they all know it. This is a pretty conservative area, and a lot of the students appreciate being able to talk about it. Some of the kids are quiet, and I know it’s because they probably disagree with me (some may be afraid to agree), but they know how I stand. I don’t mind that at all – if the liberal teachers on campus can spew forth their vitriol and Fake American-ism (yeah, I’ve already read that post), then I can spew forth the truth.

    NIkcrit – sorry for the rambling reply. I hope I made some sense. Let me know if you need more clarification. God bless.

  21. Mendo, yes. but Brentwood is a little upscale. I forgot to mention Spring Hill in that list – it’s right next to Thompson Station.

  22. Just did bit of research on Brentwood….no kidding it’s upscale. I’ll take a look at Spring Hill.

    Mt. Juliet looks great.

  23. SoCalMike, thanks for that insider’s view of White students in high school.

    — high-status jocks and athletes and rednecks and richies (unlike those others we didn’t use the word richies then but i like it now) (Suburban_elk)

    In my 1980s high school jocks (nobody used that word) and richies, who were called preps were often one and the same. The highest status sport was lacrosse. Rednecks had their own subculture and Bender in “Breakfast Club” was accurate but exaggerated for dramatic effect. They smoked, listened to heavy metal and ’70s hard rock and kept to their own cliques. Brains were well adjusted and popular, unlike in “Breakfast Club.” Many were upper middle class as well.

  24. @SoCal Mike,

    Yes, thank you for your response; that demographic mix you cited was very intriguing, and very unusual for my state and town. Whites are a relatively very small percentage of my school district, and the ones that are here are spread among a relatively small number of high schools and K-8s; hence, why i’m so curious to compare my experiences with some of the nearby ‘burb schools like my alma mater.

  25. Off topic. Courtesy of yahoo news,

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-senate-punishes-senator-found-teen-motel-053111912.html

    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — An Oklahoma state senator was booked Thursday on child prostitution charges for allegedly hiring a 17-year-old boy for sex, leading to calls for his resignation and a separate internal investigation into his years of work with a youth program.

    Ralph Shortey, a 35-year-old conservative Republican who has a wife and three young daughters, surrendered to authorities on charges of engaging in child prostitution, transporting a minor for prostitution and engaging in prostitution within 1,000 feet of a church. He was released after about two hours on a $100,000 bond. [ … ]

    The allegations led to Shortey’s removal from his volunteer position with the Oklahoma City YMCA’s Youth and Government program, in which he has been active for 17 years and served as a chaperone on several out-of-state trips [ … ]

    A search of the teen’s tablet uncovered a series of sexually explicit exchanges in which Shortey referred to the teen as “baby boy” and offered him cash in exchange for “sexual stuff,” according to a police report. The conversation had started with the teen messaging Shortey that he needed “money for spring break,” police wrote. Officers also found lotion and an open box of condoms inside backpacks in the room. [ … ]

    During his seven years in the state Senate, Shortey built a name for himself by pushing bills targeting those living in the country illegally and expanding gun rights. He routinely voted with his Republican colleagues on bills targeting gay and transgendered people, including a measure passed earlier this year that would allow business owners to discriminate against gay people.

    “He was never vitriolic about it, but he would make the bad votes,” said Troy Stevenson, director of Freedom Oklahoma, a gay rights advocacy group.

    Shortey faced fierce public criticism earlier this year when he sponsored a bill to stiffen the penalties for drug possession within 1,000 feet of a school or church, even after Oklahoma voters in November voted to make such crimes misdemeanors.

    Before his arrest, Shortey was perhaps best known for introducing a bill in 2012 that would have banned the use of aborted human fetuses in food — a measure that drew widespread ridicule and was never granted a hearing in a Senate committee.

    Shortey looks to be vaguely mixed. In some pictures he could pass for white, and in others he looks part black but for the most, part mexican.

    Yeah it is a prurient case, but it covers a lot of the checkbox cliches: a right wing legislator emphatically strong on the anti-gay messaging; a sponsor of superstitious enhanced penalties for crimes near to a church (which comes back to bite him on the ass); teenage prostitution and a gray area in the age of consent, which in that state is 16 but not for prostitution; a not quite white malefactor in a sharp suit; and last but not least, Oklahoma!

  26. elk, to my amateur eyes, he looks white with fair admixture of cherokee or choctaw native american indian blood, which is somewhat common in the great plains states like oklhoma and kansas and missouri, etc.

    Why not just wait to see how tawdry the allegations are —– and from there you can posit about how white or non-white he is and extrapolate the culpability from there? 🙂

  27. a sponsor of superstitious enhanced penalties for crimes near to a church (which comes back to bite him on the ass);

    Lol. Yeah, I sometimes wonder who comes up with these silly taint-by-association laws, in which some guy nervously waiting while parked alongside the street has to pull a y-turn and re-park because, while waiting patiently for his connect to drop off his rocks/weed/pills/etc, he notices he’s parked alongside a playground to some school.

    I mean, heaven forbid someone by their sleazy contraband within view of where children were playing four-square eight hours earlier!!!

  28. — By the time the 80s rolled around, it was on the recede and there was a new aesthetic and it was gay. The Cure for instance (Elk)

    “Plainsong” from the Disintegration album is great. A friend and I played it over and over at his apartment in the fall of ’89. It’s just instrumentals, then the minimalist lyrics.

  29. OT: Just why is the God Emperor going on television and lying like a hysterical 14-year-old girl about why he slandered a former US President for no reason, profound or petty?

    And is there no one within his inner-sanctum to offer him the wise advice to simply shut up and quit digging a deeper hole? Or is his moral vainglory that stunted and he truly can’t tactically concede the obvious gain of taking such a step? This could’ve been over and done with within a half news cycle if he had even quality amateur staff advice….Oh, now he’s claiming he can’t rely on Intel from his own intelligence agency and the CIA has been hacked (too?). So I guess THAT explains tonight’s Tweets. Who knew?

  30. My son said that some of the Asian kids in his school fit in well with whites, but many do not. The Asians who do not fit in well tend to form their own cliques. The black boys are generally considered cool, but I don’t get the impression they form strong friendships with white boys. They socialize in a casual way. I’m not sure about interracial dating.

  31. It isn’t surprising a gay politician would be involved in anti gay messaging. He still gets to talk about gay issues. As a straight woman, I am completely uninterested in gay issues, especially concerning gay men.

  32. Shortey looks to be vaguely mixed. In some pictures he could pass for white, and in others he looks part black but for the most, part mexican.

    Shortey certainly has a lot of native American blood, like a certain percentage of White Oklahomans. Although it’s now fashionable amongst a lot of American whites to claim non-existent Indian ancestry (Elizabeth Warren), in Oklahoma it’s really a thing.

    A good example of the resulting look is NFL quarterback Sam Bradford:

  33. It isn’t surprising a gay politician would be involved in anti gay messaging.

    Which is why I called it a checkbox cliche.

    He still gets to talk about gay issues.

    Talking about it wasn’t enough, in his case.

    If he had been more authentic in his gayness, and less of a garrulous poseur, perhaps he would have been better off.

  34. OT: Just why is the God Emperor going on television and lying like a hysterical 14-year-old girl about why he slandered a former US President for no reason, profound or petty?

    Who cares? That “former US president” did a lot of slandering himself against whites, the police, military, etc – the only difference is that he had control of the liberal megaphone and had perfected a sense of silver-tongued smoothness about his lies.

  35. It’s nice to have a president in office that is not treated with kid gloves. I wonder if even Trump’s opponents feel the same way. With Trump I feel like we can have real political debate. It’s just more fun, although I do need breaks from it.

  36. the only difference is that he had control of the liberal megaphone and had perfected a sense of silver-tongued smoothness about his lies.

    Nonsense, though I’m surprised it took this long for that form of false equivalency coupled with a partisan whine about preferential treatment for ‘blue-pill’ ideologues and politicos, etc.

    No, it’s much more drastic and unprecedented; we’re talking stunted development, the limits and pitfalls of someone with the ego and limited self-awareness of a 14-year-old boy. The reckless doubling-down and having no sense whatsoever of the binds that his verbal incontinence will lead to. I see today that he’s sending his bluster and vague military threats to North Korea; should be interestin.’

    But then you know all this already.

    Celebrities by and large are not interested or concerned about polities and social entities not immediately connected to themselves. The logic to his actions are self-evident. To him.

  37. SoCal We actually had a counselor on campus the day after the election to help students who were scared and upset. Really.

    Really? Wow. That’s silly; what exactly were these students traumatized about? See, I don’t think of Trump as someone particularly ‘liberal’ or ‘conservative;’ my bias is to see him as a public figure who’s spent decades cultivating a public image, persona and mythology, which, eventually for almost anyone of that track, becomes an all-consuming task, with the resulting ‘identity’ a monstrous creation that was/is impossible to anticipate.

    The highest form of such a malady is evident when you see them, reflexively, refer to themselves in third person; NOT that sort-of self-deprecating, conscious act of objectifying oneself, but when they really, subconsciously do it without mindful intent.

    And our POTUS has been there for decades.

  38. Cam, that leprechaun vid is crazy; obviously, the poster inserted his own clippage into that local news broadcast segment, right?

    The three funniest parts that actually ran on the Mobile news were where the kid is hyping up the crowd and says “everybody say yeeeeea-yuh”, the part where the guy says he wants the gold and plans to rent a backhoe to dig up the tree to get it and the hysterical part where the lady says “it’s probably a crackhead that got a hold of the wrong stuff”.

    But yes, the other parts where you con’t see the reporter’s microphone were injected into the video.

  39. lara: They socialize in a casual way.

    What grade level are we talking here, if you don’t mind saying? K-8? High school? It’s my experience that if casual social mixing starts to forge hard ethnic patterns around 7th/8th grade.

    (no need to be specific if you prefer to remain more discreet)

  40. We actually had a counselor on campus the day after the election to help students who were scared and upset. Really.

    p.s.—– this still intrigues me, so i gotta ask: what kind of kids took up the offer for free Trump-Trauma counseling? NAMs? budding SJW white kids? Were they more angry? Or truly traumatized, as one who might need ‘grief counseling.”

    I mean, try to picture the administrative meeting at the school in which this issue was raised and decided upon: was the decision to bring in a counselor practical, borne out of increasingly strong reactions by the student in preceding days? Or was it decided with no idea how useful or not it would be?

  41. It’s the West Coast. Out there they’d probably lock up a kid for “hate speech” if he was wearing an American flag T-shirt.

  42. Nikcrit,
    Freshman year of high school. My son, who is popular, will generally refer to the black boys as “cool”, but all of his close friends are white. He also listens to rap music and seems to have an interest in black culture. I try to instill some white pride in him (he has called me racist on several occasions) without going overboard. I want him to be proud of what he is without feeling the need to denigrate others. It’s a balancing act.

  43. Nikcrit,
    A lot of black people get stressed being with white people too much. You might not feel this way, but many of them do.

  44. A lot of black people get stressed being with white people too much. You might not feel this way, but many of them do.

    No easy balsam for feelings of inferiority, if any at all.
    Same with a certain kind of comments one sees at right-wing blogs (I don’t mean this one), showing profound psychological wounds inflicted by a sense of inferiority to Ashkenazi.
    It interests cognitive as well as physical gaps, see the Longing for Death: The Half Asian Reality blog on WordPress for a glaring example.

    I’ll quote a wise, and oddly sincere, man:
    The difference of race is one of the reasons why I fear war may always exist; because race implies difference, difference implies superiority, and superiority leads to predominance.

    In no way I can say how fed up I am with seeing black people acting hyper-aggressive towards whites in general and on occasions me in particular, all due to inferiority complex anger (which they project as “racism” coming to them from the others, sure enough).
    They are being tolerated – when not encouraged – so it is not going to stop.

    Meanwhile in other news…

    The Swedish government is poised to simplify the process of changing one’s gender by scrapping the demand for a medical procedure in order for it to be legally recognized. Incidentally, the demand for gender changes is skyrocketing amid Sweden’s young.

    Self-deleting peoples.

  45. Dark youf…
    In school
    “Fake cool”
    Skirt the rules
    Tools of the Zeitgeist
    In the big picture
    Scheme of things
    The insanity of fools
    Liberated
    Morphed into modern mules
    Rolled “models”
    Version two-point skewed
    Diabolically deviated
    An educational duel…

  46. “The Swedish government is poised to simplify the process of changing one’s gender by scrapping the demand for a medical procedure in order for it to be legally recognized. Incidentally, the demand for gender changes is skyrocketing amid Sweden’s young.”

    Perhaps that lessening of the requirement (to be legally recognized as female) will prevent some misguided and deluded males from having their genitals chopped.

  47. In no way I can say how fed up I am with seeing black people acting hyper-aggressive towards whites in general and on occasions me in particular, all due to inferiority complex anger (which they project as “racism” coming to them from the others, sure enough).

    Is that aggression, from blacks (particularly males) onto whites, always motivated by feelings of inferiority though?

    It is well known that blacks have abundant confidence and high notions of their self-worth.

    It is an interesting suggestion; i don’t know that i agree with it. I think it is more simply that blacks act accordingly when they sense weakness.

  48. Totally off topic. Saturday afternoon and Spring starting to make itself felt.

    I stopped off at an estate sale nearby, and are ever those things, a thing, around here now. Swapples every where you turn, crawling through Grandma’s lifetime of antiques.

    These are the left half people who take care of themselves, and some of the women are not bad looking, but as a rule, of the “men” there with their es oh — of them, 9 out of 10 does not a shitlord face have.

    I don’t like that shitlord face meme necessarily, for reasons I have gone into before, but it has its place; such as at estate sales.

    These guys don’t know that they need to be working on their own stuff, their own hobbies, on Saturday afternoons, and leave the “gathering of collectables” to the women. The fact that they come out and come and play along with it, is excusable in the sense that it is a seeking of community. But the activity itself is feminine to the extreme.

  49. Basically, unless we’re talking natural history, collecting is gay. There is nothing that you need.

    There is such an overabundance of stuff, and it’s all collected in the suburbs of America.

    America is likely going down, but it won’t be for want of a nail.

  50. — Is that aggression, from blacks (particularly males) onto whites, always motivated by feelings of inferiority though?

    It’s rare (never?) for me to experience or witness outright Black on White aggression. What I see a lot of and occasionally experience, though, is one of two things: aggressive friendliness, usually in a service/sales context, which I find extremely annoying. The other and much more common thing is just a general air of hostility. It’s a two-way thing and it’s manifested by conspicuous absence of polite courtesies and by icy facial expressions. For my part, I actively avoid blacks in neutral public space such as in coffee shops or parks. I know, for example, that if you have one (especially a female) in earshot, it’s a matter of seconds before she gets oh her cell phone and ruins the vibe with her talking.

    — These guys don’t know that they need to be working on their own stuff, their own hobbies, on Saturday afternoons, and leave the “gathering of collectables” to the women.

    I am a fan of your slice of life observations and launch into broader contemplation.

  51. just a general air of hostility. It’s a two-way thing and it’s manifested by conspicuous absence of polite courtesies and by icy facial expressions.

    I’m curious, do you maintain and friendships or even ‘friendly acquaintances’ with any blacks, whether through work of whatever civic connections or associations? I was somewhat surprised several months or a year or so back when you went into detail about some of the neighborhoods in the larger D.C. area, during which you described where the middle-class or ‘talented-tenth’ neighborhoods were, and you going on to describe them in overall complimentary ways.

    Re. this ‘talented-tenth’ blacks: I know you disagree with the political circumstances, the ‘hows’ and ‘whys’ of their political coming into being. But I still wonder if through whatever happenstance if you have some ongoing relationship with these or other NAMs?

  52. — do you maintain and friendships or even ‘friendly acquaintances’ with any blacks […] Re. this ‘talented-tenth’ blacks

    Not really. The Talented Tenth even around here are elusive; one sees a lot more of the Untalented 90% with money. I don’t think it’s much possible for anyone, at least an adult, to be friends across cultural lines today, even if the sole cultural difference is politics. The climate is too tense. Part of the climate is a sense that friendship is not just about good times, but also a matter of trust in a discivic environment. I come across Talented Tenth folks at work and needless to say, both parties are civil in that context.

  53. There was an article on Very Smart Brothers about therapy and mental health. Many of the black commenters said they found working with mostly white people stressful. Some of them chalked this up to microaggressions from racist whites. I think the reality is that it is a lot of work trying to fit in with people who are different than you. I have had trouble meshing with certain groups, into work environments, even with family and it takes its toll. It’s not as if all white people like each other or are the same.

  54. I think the reality is that it is a lot of work trying to fit in with people who are different than you. I have had trouble meshing with certain groups, into work environments, even with family and it takes its toll. It’s not as if all white people like each other or are the same.

    That is an important observation. There is a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot that can be said about it.

    I finished that book The Meaning of Human Existence (2013) by Eddie Boy Wilson, and as we know, the basis of his life’s work is the eusocial animals which are mainly insects but also include humans, even the negroes and pygmies and Denisovan relics in the Andaman Islands.

    I am not up to an effort post on this theme — which is really THE theme, and about which it is very disappointing that Eddie Boy Wilson skirts — the theme of how our eusociality [big pretentious word alert i know, but it is correct] conflicts and intersects with the shifting race arrangements playing out today.

    Also I am remiss in my homework. Smart people in the Sphere have talked about this but I don’t know what they concluded. It used to be a theme on Majority Rights back when that was an important place, which was ten years ago now. The question of how Wilson’s work on socio-biology and the eusocial animals, was dealt with by the globohomo politics whose main imperative is the subjugation of the white Euro sub-species.

    Taking this current science, and fitting it into “our thing”, seems like it might be a good idea. It is an opportunity for someone to explore.

    ************

    But part of what Wilson emphasizes in that book, in that as eusocial animals, we are “geniuses” (his word, and it applies to everyone even niggers but not spergs) at managing the complexity of our social inter-relations.

    It has been a remarked upon trope that 90 per cent of our brains go into managing our social relations and their many aspects, and whether or not that metric is accurate or can be quantified, the point remains.

    And so this multi-race living arrangement is a huge new variable in the eusocial arrangement. And it is one which Eddie Boy Wilson, judging by the one book of his that I have read, shies away from.

  55. Spergs are basically people who are not actually autistic, but the current social arrangement, including and with its multi-racial complications, is beyond their ken and not working out.

  56. And so this multi-race living arrangement is a huge new variable in the eusocial arrangement network.

    The godfather of the AR James Bowery knows about all this stuff. He used to deal with at MR. I know he has an alert on his name.

    His prescriptive solutions to our political problems are laid out in his writings. They are not too hard to find. The basic idea is that our polities have to be self-sorted and voluntary: he calls it Sortocracy.

    The current state is not voluntary. We are conscripts in this empire.

  57. Eddie Boy Wilson’s Sociobiology came out in 1976, and it was immediately apparent that it had huge implications into the politics of the jews. Some of the structures he described for the behavior of ants, are homologous to those of the jews at large in their host societies.

    And this was at Harvard, which was and remains a central node of jewish control.

    So the meta-politics of how that went down, is its own story, and I am not up on it.

    But his last book, referenced above, would seem to indicate how it played out.

    ***************

    All his work leads so perfectly into our contemporary political problems, which are racial — and it is frustrating that he will not lend us the support of his brilliance, if even in a neutral voice.

    In The Meaning of Human Existence, there are but two sentences applicable to the obtaining race arrangement and its politics, and they are … so balanced. The guy has a brilliance with words and imagination that he has to know their effect.

    In the first reference he would seem to be supportive of the race amalgamations going on. It is some pablum about the possibilities with the never before occurring mixes. But in the second reference he chastises those who are reluctant to face the necessities of some forms of social controls resembling eugenics, for their fear of “facism”, and he includes the quotes around that word.

    Anyone curious will have to do their own homework. I have returned the book to its circulation demands, which demands in themselves are perhaps encouraging.

    The book is more philosophical than anything, and frankly it is somewhat upsetting.

  58. Nikcrit…

    You could just say that Trump is a “radical autonomist” and in failing to live up to white Supremacy puts MRKA on the brink of sudden deleterious change?

    Or…

    You could obliterate the line between objective profiling and simply co-authoring an amplified aspect of the Narrative?

  59. All his work leads so perfectly into our contemporary political problems, which are racial — and it is frustrating that he will not lend us the support of his brilliance, if even in a neutral voice. — Elk

    Which is to say that Mr. Wilson is an anti-white Supremacist…

    While “we” are racially incarnated men desiring objective Supremacy, ie., (P)erfection.

    Maybe it’s just too simple for your high mind?

  60. “Get Out” gets 99% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. 209/210 critic reviews are positive:

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/get_out/

    Does any (white) critic want to jeopardize their career by giving a negative review and being branded with the “R”?

    Expect about 10 copycat movies just like it to be put into the works ASAP.

  61. Does any (white) critic want to jeopardize their career by giving a negative review and being branded with the “R”?

    Happens all the time; check out the R.Tomato review totals on, say, Soul Plane; what those black movies do to create seeming bias. When reviewing hard genre movies like, say, Soul Plane and some Ice Cub produced comedy, it makes little sense to apply mainstream Hollywood criteria and context. Those movies have little to know critical context; they’re test-marketed to make their very specific viewer demographic laugh and enjoy him-or-herself.

    A sensible critic would not and should not want to apply the same standard and context to the assessment of all movies; most wouldn’t sub consciously as it makes no intuitive sense.

    And take that opinion from a man who’s reviewed Player’s Club (i think was the title) by Ice Cube and also reviewed one or two Kieslowski films. 🙂

  62. Happens all the time; check out the R.Tomato review totals on, say, Soul Plane; what those black movies do to create seeming bias. When reviewing hard genre movies like, say, Soul Plane and some Ice Cub produced comedy,

    Yes, but Soul Plane or a Wayans Brothers moves aren’t putting themselves forth as serious “racial commentary” so a white critic could get away with giving one of those a bad review. Also, there’s lots of black comedies in that mold, so a white critic could always lampoon a bad movie like “Soul Plane” by saying ‘oh, well it’s not as good as other black-directed comedies like Friday or Coming to America” and that gives cover.

    But I really don’t think that a white critic could’ve given “Get Out” a bad review without being branded a racist.

  63. “Get Out” flatters black people, Apparently, the white characters want African traits. The whole premise sounds a little silly, but it has huge appeal to black people’s egos. I’m surprised Nikcrit hasn’t seen it yet.

  64. — it has huge appeal to black people’s egos

    Is there anything in Great Satan’s land that isn’t geared toward inflating the negro’s self esteem?

    — And here I thought a critic would address how a movie was good.

    How quaint.

  65. here’s a sort-of funny analysis of the movie; i disagree with many of Bruni’s contentions. But i was surprised to learn that Peele is a halfrican (married to a white woman), and how much box-office the movie has delivered so far! VERY odd for a hard-core genre film, coupled with minority lead actors, to deliver the numbers it has. I looked up some trade rag stats; it’s basically.

    I actually agree with many of the contenions Bruni has with the white libs’ —– their obsessively reifying ‘the other’ for, ultimately, its own self-absorbed reasons. You guys here have often complained about the same thing. But what gets me is the white lib tendency to just SCRUTINIZE fellow whites in the case of anti-racism —- -yet they cannot and will not say a peep about self-defeating black behavior; i.e., black-on-black crime, illegitimacy, etc.

    p.s@Cam: whaddya think of coach K and his mercenaries going down to South Carolina?
    So far, the Badgers have made the best of their opps to avenge their stolen NCAA final loss two years ago: first, they defeated the winner last year of what they were wrongfully denied two years ago by beating Villanova.

    It would’ve been nice to have had a UW-Duke rematch, but I’ll still enjoy the schadenfreude of seeing Coach K’s disgruntled red face as he walked off the court last night!

  66. Since we often have debates here about white the aggregate U.S. whites/blacks/others wants, what do y’all make of the fact that such a movie as ‘Get Out’ is delivering the mega mainstream box office that it has?

    Is that proof of my oft-declared riff that black American ARE mainstream America?

    Or do you guys (and Lara) think ‘Get Out’ only pulled those numbers because ‘the white liberal media’ hand-delivered its success?

  67. I found a review of the film whose denouement is ultimately critical and non-favorable.

    It’s by Anthony Lane, the newyorker.com critic; below is the last paragraph of his review, in which his denouement is thumbs down on the movie AND on integration writ large:

    Can a film be too inflammatory for its own good, or are there times, and places, when only fire will suffice? In an interview with the Times, Peele, whose mother is white, admitted that the movie was originally intended “to combat the lie that America had become post-racial,” and the result is like an all-out attack on a rainbow. Short of making us listen to “Ebony and Ivory” over the closing credits, “Get Out” could hardly be more provocative. There’s a scene with a head-stamping, a scene with an exposed brain, and a truly creepy scene with a bowl of Froot Loops. And yet, despite all that, what makes this horror film horrific is the response that it gives to the well-meaning and problem-solving question “Can’t we just learn to live together?” To which the movie answers, loud and clear, “No.”

  68. Or do you guys (and Lara) think ‘Get Out’ only pulled those numbers because ‘the white liberal media’ hand-delivered its success?

    It would be interesting to see an ethnic analysis of their audience.

    A lot of commercially successful black movies/TV have audiences that are 60+% black, I believe. Tyler Perry has made at least two movies that made over 100 million.

    Even the NBA has a viewing audience over 50% black, just look at the ads that air during games. But season tickets holders are overwhelmingly white business guys over 35.

    “Get Out” flatters black people, Apparently, the white characters want African traits. The whole premise sounds a little silly, but it has huge appeal to black people’s egos. I’m surprised Nikcrit hasn’t seen it yet.

    Yes, one way that blacks deal with feelings of inferiority is by always imagining that whites have some degree of malice affixed on them, even from afar in voodoo-like fashion. It’s one way to explain away lack of competence or suitability for Western, rules-based life. Every shiftless Trayvon Martin teenage high school dropout brother thinks that he has “haters” when white folks could care less.

  69. Every shiftless Trayvon Martin teenage high school dropout brother thinks that he has “haters” when white folks could care less.

    I really think you are off on that one —– that prole black teens into rap, basketball and the crass materialism we all know and joke about are ultimately worried about a feral white racist attack.

    That is not on their radar. why would it be? Most of the whites in their lives are lib females who fawn over them.

  70. — “Can’t we just learn to live together?” To which the movie answers, loud and clear, “No.”

    You can trace the mainstream attitudes toward question over our lifetimes:

    Post-1965: yes, just give integration a chance
    1980s: yes, but we must first uplift the blacks
    1990s thru 2013: yes, but Whites must self-mutilate
    2013 thru now: no

  71. 2013 thru now: no

    Given the radicalism of the Civil Rights era, which one could dub “The Second Reconstruction,” one can view contemporary times as the ‘over-re-balancing’ hiccup after such extreme change. So perhaps political correctness is a over-reaction to those inconvenienced by the hierarchical disruptions that the Second Reconstruction generated.

    To those of us in the here and now, it seems incredibly imbalanced; but historically speaking, the ‘p.c.-as-over-correction’ perspective makes a certain amount of sense.

  72. One thing I’ve noticed is that black people are much easier to deal with in areas where they feel equal or even superior to whites. I’ve generally found black kids on sports teams and their parents to be friendly and comfortable with the white players and parents. Sure, they get a lot of satisfaction out of beating a white team, but in general they are good sports. I have found that many black people in corporate America have the biggest chips on their shoulders. I wonder if this is because they feel like they don’t belong and this causes them mental anguish. Blacks working in retail jobs are usually nice enough. Again, they can handle the work and don’t feel like they are somewhere they do not belong.

  73. In other words, in situations where blacks feel inferior, they act poorly. In situations where they feel equal, they are much nicer.

  74. In fairness, I have heard white men express a desire to be as athletic as some black men are. If “Get Out” went with this theme it would be more believable. I get the impression it was more of a “white people wanting to own black bodies” theme. My guess is Jordan Peele is not a particularly athletic black man, which is why he didn’t take that angle.

  75. This film, Get (the niggers) Out, is shaping up the be the pop culture phenom of the year, that much is clear.

    It is (a part of) our “conversation about race” — and as such co-incidental to the linked-in-another-thread Kunstler cast between thw-what’s-his-name and JHK: it is a black voice moderated by a jew.

    So there we have it, our race problems are solved!

    It is quite the telling thing, and it is also funny how that Kunstler cast is a mirror of the same pattern and that it features a participant from the Sphere. Whatever its limitations and however limited its reach …

    On the film though, Get (the niggers) Out.

    I am left wanting a review of it, though the excerpted review and its line on Ebony and Ivory is funny enough.

    I despise the genre of gore. It is cheap thrills for desensitized and ruined people. To the extent that a film relies on gore, it is shit-tier; on the other hand, gore can be used sparingly for effect.

    All in all though, it sounds like the mulatto director in question has some talent.

  76. I am willing to see the film now, after what I have heard.

    It goes to show the market for the red pill and a little bit of real talk.

    The irony, from our White perspective, is that there are no White people seizing that opportunity!

    For all our talk of how awesome we are, we are not able to circumvent the jews and their stranglehold over the culture.

    How hard should it be?

  77. Just repeating myself now, but the takeaway point, which I think we all now, is that “our conversation on Race” is a black moderated by a jew.

    But even within those strangulating constraints — there is huge thirst for real talk.

    So any time a black is willing to real talk, and a jew is willing to listen, there is a white audience.

    Sometimes white people are pretty sad. Something about out they can’t represent.

  78. Adding to Elk’s comments, the very “conversation on race” is a degrading thing. By degrading, I don’t just refer to the Parade of Humiliations of liberalism, but the fact that “race” in relation to brown-skinned people is a subject beneath our natural dignity. It’s the opposite of aspirational. Great works of the White mind and soul have encompassed every subject high and low, yet have always stayed clear of blackitty-black.

    I’m not saying “don’t talk about it here” because it is after all a feature of contemporary era. Rather, It’s just good to point to the chasm between what we talk/think about among ourselves, and what judeonigger America wants us talking about.

  79. “Get Out” is the best example of a mulatto’s “identity crisis” seeking a cognitive consonance where “equality” is the dominating selection pressure. In other words, Whore Done Squeal his inability to escape “anti-white Supremacy” without then forcing his fellow horde to confront the reality of wS.

    The popularity of this revelatory movie is in the deep desire for “symbiotic regression” AMONGST the psychological parasites of “equality” dogma.

  80. When is nigel is white-pilled, he can no longer admit that wS is actually worse than anti-white Supremacy, i.e., “universal equality.”

  81. Edit:

    When is [a] nigel [nigger] is white-pilled, he can no longer [must] admit that wS is actually worse [superior to] than anti-white Supremacy, i.e., “universal equality.”

  82. The dominating meme is “white” females desiring “black” males for their masculine virility. But what of those mulattoes born to “identity crisis” who see themselves more as nerdy creatives who found likewise in a white female?

    Again…

    With a dogmatic “equality” as one’s indestructibly formative filter…

    It’s “Get Out.”

  83. Thor, did you literally go to the theater and see the flick? I noticed no reliable torrentz yet; i can’t rouse myself to get up and go to a theater for a few hours; i even have a gift card to the stupid-ass mainstream multiplex in my town.

    I thought it funny when lara said she thought it was odd that i hadn’t gone out to see it yet; i admit, i was more curious about it in a tangential and somewhat academic way when i found out that Jordan was a dusky halfrican, as is YT. I wonder if that manifested somehow in the script, mood or settings?

  84. i was more curious about it in a tangential and somewhat academic way when i found out that Jordan was a dusky halfrican, as is YT. I wonder if that manifested somehow in the script, mood or settings?

    You mean besides the obvious motive that he’s got to double down on showing he’s down for the cause being that he’s married a white woman?

    Even Obama made the ultimate sacrifice (albeit reluctantly) of giving up white women to pay his dues.

  85. O.T., Good lord, the Mr. God Emperor is on a path to get charged with sedition and treason, all because he can’t control his impulses or think beyond the tornado-like regression into his own self absorption.

    During the year before he announced, he probably said all sorts of treacherous stuff, in some cases on some sort of public record, that his enemies can and probably will make joyous sport of…

    Or maybe he thought all that out and then oh-so cannily decided to hold his tongue? Nahhhh.

    Meanwhile, none of his main planks have been in the new cycle lately. You notice that? Nahh.

  86. Even Obama made the ultimate sacrifice (albeit reluctantly) of giving up white women to pay his dues.

    Hey, in the eros sweepstakes, 20th-century western obsessions and ‘memes’ created a mythology in which the ultimate in feminine charms and aesthetic beauty was the white female, and the purist essence of sexual virility and power was the black male—— and you got a contemporary counter-culture that shows this country has been obsessed with the topic for decades.

    Whatever, no jungle -fever distractions; besides, it doesn’t exist because our blog host routinely says so. 🙂 (cue: that every-ready ‘OK, Cupid’ survey, the bastion of pyscho-racial-sexual research)

  87. “Get Out” is the best example of a mulatto’s “identity crisis” seeking a cognitive consonance where “equality” is the dominating selection pressure. In other words, Whore Done Squeal his inability to escape “anti-white Supremacy” without then forcing his fellow horde to confront the reality of wS……..The popularity of this revelatory movie is in the deep desire for “symbiotic regression” AMONGST the psychological parasites of “equality” dogma.

    I challenge any regular here — or anyone in thie manosphere, period —— to decipher the above into earthy, man-to-man rhetoric. WTF does this mean? Anybody — except the author, that is, please.

  88. Meanwhile, none of his main planks have been in the new cycle lately. You notice that? Nahh.

    I don’t follow the news more than enough not to be a complete asshole on this blog, but I sometimes get the feeling that Trickin doesn’t like Trump, on a personal level for some reason.

  89. I challenge any regular here — or anyone in thie manosphere, period —— to decipher the above into earthy, man-to-man rhetoric. WTF does this mean? Anybody — except the author, that is, please.

    I don’t make sense of it, but thordaddy’s mission in life seems to be to want us to achieve white Supremacy to the extent that we can.

    I imagine it is frustrating.

  90. After finishing that book, my faith in the the afterlife, has been utterly demolished.

    I never believed in the afterlife quite so much as such, but have entertained notions of the soul being eternal.

    And it still must be, to the extent that it is considered a part of the larger scheme of things.

    Eddie Boy concludes that we are “alone and free in the Universe”. Our consciousness is a given, and our free will might be debated but in any case can be considered as an operating paradigm for our complex brains.

    I don’t believe in free will, myself. Will is one thing — but it’s not free, by any reckoning.

  91. Speaking of the news, “Pope” Francis is urging Europeans to have fewer children, while Erdogan is telling Turkish women in the EU to have five kids.

    We’ve already gotten to the point where we no longer vest any legitimacy in our nominal leaders. Now we are hungry for our own Erdogan — whom I am using here as a metaphor for a statesman who will eventually eschew dispiriting language such as “we all bleed red.”

  92. Why is Francis discouraging upticks in Euro progeny?

    Can: I reveled in Duke’s defeat. What chance do give Williams Country,’s finest in the rest of the way? (Sorry but I’m watching the Badgers defeat of Xavier last year on a FOX North station rebroadcast. I know: pathetic! Lol)

  93. @peterike, etc.al:

    Who is the true king of rock n roll?

    1) Little Richard
    2) Elvis Presley
    3) Chuck Berry

    —————————————

    Elk, I don’t like Trump; just a few of his core positions. Personally, I think he is a self absorbed blowhard, all the while knowing nobody here or elsewhere gives a f*** about what I think of him..

  94. Nikcrit…

    It seems I am the only one to see the movie.

    It’s a very simple formula…

    IN THE CONTEXT of dogmatic “equality…”

    The arrogance of “white” liberation EQUALS “white supremacy.”

    Ergo…

    In the eye of the tragic mulatto, “white female liberationist” is the “eugenic” means to an annihilation of “black supremacy.”

    The tragedy is in the entirely false construct ROOTED in a LIBERATED CONCEPT of “white supremacy.”

    This movie is a cry for help from that segment of the radical “black” collective that cannot live up to the hustle.

  95. Nikcrit…

    You do recognize an absolute truth where…

    OUTSIDE THE CONTEXT OF “equality…”

    “White liberal” DOES NOT EQUAL white Supremacist?

    The tragic mulatto CANNOT conclude such a difference, ultimately, to his deleterious end.

  96. Elk…

    It doesn’t even make sense to write of “free will” in a strictly material sense. Finite autonomy is that physical barrier that a radical autonomist attempts to usurp only failing at self-annihilation EXACTLY BECAUSE he has denied his own God-ordained free will.

    In the passive-liberated voice, you say,”I lack God-ordained free will.”

    In the aggressive, radically autonomous voice, you state, “I am a self-annihilator.

    If you find yourself faltering…

    DEFINE “objective Supremacy…”

    And tell me why you deny your own conception?

  97. To mend an “identity crisis,” you first halt the process of perpetuating self-annihilation. If one can, in the short term, successfully obscure this process of perpetuating self-annihilation with the idea of spontaneous self-creation, he will, in the long run, still lose out where his final DENIAL of a God-ordained free will DESTROYS HIS false belief in perpetual, spontaneous self-creation which is USED ONLY as a DENIAL of a real self-destructive submission to “universal equality.”

  98. Alt-rite
    Stillborn
    Anti-All Right
    Otherwise
    Refined
    And defined
    As anti-objective Supremacy
    Linguistically
    Anti-Perfection
    Conceptually
    Denied with alacrity
    Defied
    Reflexively
    One hundred forty nine degrees
    Dirty son disease
    See prompt
    Is a nigger pleased
    Identity Isis
    Is eyes crossed
    Cause a lie said
    Anti-white Supremacy
    In the womb
    And at jew head…
    Better off dead
    Elk meat for dinner
    We all bleed red…

  99. It is well known that blacks have abundant confidence and high notions of their self-worth.

    We’ve already discussed this but I don’t believe someone totally uninterested in black humanity can gauge whether their confidence and self-worth is intact. Otherwise, It is hubris and results in a self-serving observation.

  100. We’ve already discussed this but I don’t believe someone totally uninterested in black humanity can gauge whether their confidence and self-worth is intact. Otherwise, It is hubris and results in a self-serving observation.

    Rest at ease trickin these are my observations and I am not “totally uninterested in black humanity”.

  101. Recognizing someone’s humanity is a bit like respecting someone’s character — it’s contingent on the subject’s behavior.

  102. And further, Trickin, your notion that other people making the observations regarding blacks and their notions of self-worth are “totally uninterested” in them? is off; and to be frank, reflects your own insecurities.

    First of all, if they were totally uninterested in them, they wouldn’t bother with the observations at all.

    It is quite possible, to be at the same time, both interested in and tired of.

  103. We’ve already discussed this but I don’t believe someone totally uninterested in black humanity can gauge whether their confidence and self-worth is intact. Otherwise, It is hubris and results in a self-serving observation.

    I’m a little shocked to see Trickin coming at us with another version of the “our black essence is so unique and inscrutable to the white man” theory.

  104. Within the Sphere, it is accepted as real social science (as opposed to non-replicable) that black Americans have higher self-esteem than white Americans.

    Further, it comports with my observations.

    It is not a contentious assertion. My impression is that Trickin wants to tell us that black Americans are not happy.

    That’s fine. Let’s not make this more complicated than it is.

    Black Americans are not happy, but White Americans are even more not happy.

  105. We’ve already discussed this but I don’t believe someone totally uninterested in black humanity can gauge whether their confidence and self-worth is intact.

    Even though the Western White man has 2,500 years of experience with empirical philosophy and invented the scientific method that powers virtually all technology advance on the planet, there’s no possible way that he can objectively comprehend anything concerned the complex, deep and many-layered souls of a people who can produce such gems as “Stripper Sister Wives” and “All My Babies’ Mamas”:

    http://radiotvtalk.blog.ajc.com/2017/03/20/love-and-hip-hop-atlanta-recap-stripper-sister-wives-season-6-episode-3/

  106. A coupe of blogging notes:

    – The blog has 138 formal “followers,” and what surprises me is that most of them aren’t the familiar AltRight personalities or other people who write on similar themes, but bloggers who write about completely unrelated subjects: travel, expatting journal, visual art, a number of apolitical life-theme female blogs (I think the “Life” post from Sep. 9 put me on their radar), and so on. Some are very interesting.

    – Because busy, as well as normal cycles of energy/productivity with regards to my output here, my posting has been thin since “What Are Liberals So Afraid Of.” It’s not a lack of ideas (I have plenty of those), it’s insufficient conditions for me to reach what I call “escape velocity,” a.k.a. Stage 2 of posting. Stage 1 being idea, Stage 2 is giving it form, Stage 3 is editing/QC. I’m working on finishing a substantial post tomorrow morning.

  107. First of all, if they were totally uninterested in them, they wouldn’t bother with the observations at all.

    Well, they really didn’t bother—– someone else solicited the opinion. I’m saying, if its only the predations of some ‘other’ that rouses your interest and opinion, then I don’t believe such a person is perceptually in the position to gauge that ‘others’ self-esteem. For the record, no moral scolding intended; I’m thinking more empirical truth, though this is a bit to, umm, ‘qualitative’ a subject to be strictly empirical about.

    Cam, yet one more time your opining and making declarations in response to NOTHING I said.

    It’s interesting; you’re always putting down black dysfunction and laughing at black pop culture, via gang activity, black yearly events like in Tallahassee, rap music, etc.

    Yet, you are the one that went to a near-majority black high-school and seem to have at this blog, by far, the most knowledge of contemporary black fads (i.e., the “na-na” and “the funky chicken” or whatever.

    You also seem suspiciously familiar with spouses and girlfriends of black athletes; IOW: between the frequent nervous put-downs of blacks and black pop culture, therein is a fascination betrayed by the detailed familiarity with said subject. 🙂

    So, no, trickin’ is NOT “coming at us with another version of the “our black essence is so unique and inscrutable to the white man” theory.”

    I’ll just sit back and let your commenting record on those subjects to speak for itself.

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    Now onto more important matters: Cam, how do you see UW matching up against Florida?

    I say, this year is destiny, divine intervention for that Duke conspiracy scandal that befell the under-mediated Badgers in 2015. And btw, what did you mean in your little joke to me the other day about ‘all-five’ blacks at UW played really well, etc.” In fact, UW is probably among the top-5 teams nationally with the most caucasian players.

    White power!

  108. I say, this year is destiny, divine intervention for that Duke conspiracy scandal that befell the under-mediated Badgers in 2015. And btw, what did you mean in your little joke to me the other day about ‘all-five’ blacks at UW played really well, etc.”

    Everybody says that “conspiracy” stuff about Duke and how Duke “gets all of the calls” but us old-time ACC people really don’t worry about it that much and I don’t think it’s true, personally. It’s kinda the default cop-out similar to liberals calling on some ephemeral “oppression’ whenever there’s a result they don’t like.

    I am unfamiliar with your term – does “under-mediated” mean “less talented”? Duke is always there because they are getting 3-5 blue chip/5-star/McDonald’s all-american level players (top 25 in country) virtually every year. I guess I’d have to rewatch the entire Badgers-Duke NCAA title game that year to look at the officiating. The Badgers did quite well to beat Kentucky in the national semifinal.

    In general, college basketball offciating is far inferior to NBA officiating, which has a very comprehensive and rigorous peer review process for every up-and-coming referee. On particularly bad calls the NBA will later verify that a referee made an incorrect call, and then issue a rules clarification to the Head of Officiating for the league to make sure the error doesn’t happen again.

    BTW, the punchline to my joke is that the only black people on the UW campus are scholarship athletes.

  109. @Cam: “under-mediated” —– it’s not a common term; only in the nikcrit lexicon; I just meant that UW possibly receives less NCAA help via an easy schedule in the Bracket and sympathetic officiating because it’s not a high-profile, nationally recognized brand like Coach K and his fukin’ Duke Inc.

    And yes, once you get past all the gloss and hype, players like UW’s Nigel Hays are just as good as most of the players on Duke. Only thing I like about Coach K is his discipline; it’s his phone sanctimony media-whoring that gets me riled.

    —————————————————————————————————————

    Hey, did y’all hear of this latest, highly flammable outrage, which made the face page and cover of today’s New York Times?

  110. And yes, once you get past all the gloss and hype, players like UW’s Nigel Hays are just as good as most of the players on Duke.

    In the right situation, a 3 1/2 star player like Hays can be very effective at the highest levels of the NCAA with good coaching, discipline and intelligent play. But I don’t know if “just as good” is the best way to describe that, there’s a reason that the Dukes and Kentuckys have 25-30 formerly players in the NBA at any one time, within only 260 players in the league (30 NBA teams with 12-man active rosters)

    Michael Finley is the one true mega-star player I remember coming out of Madison, but I think he’s actually from the Chicago area, I imagine you were there a few years before him. Devin Harris is a solid NBA pro.

  111. Mistaken for a robbery suspect, the hip-hop artist showed what happened with a Twitter video.

    It is perfectly legal to handcuff someone while they are being detained for probable cause, whatever that may be. An arrest is not necessary if the process is quick.

  112. Mistaken for a robbery suspect, the hip-hop artist showed what happened with a Twitter video.

    Here’s an example of why cops insist on handcuffing those they are investigating, as well as making sure they keep hands up and in view:

  113. Wyclef was wearing a red bandana which signifies The Bloods in LA. The black DJ said he should stop wearing the red bandana for this reason.

  114. Actually the black male DJ I was listening to thought it was much ado about nothing. The black female DJ was more outraged.

  115. Actually the black male DJ I was listening to thought it was much ado about nothing. The black female DJ was more outraged.

    Asking black people to understand the US justice system or the concept of objective standards/legal processes is like asking a pig to comprehend algebra. It just isn’t going to happen.

    From what’s described it all seems like 100% routine and legal under police procedure to me.

  116. Those manufactured outrages over a routine just-cause arrest of a high-profile black, notably with Henry Louis Gates, are meant to trigger feelings of GoodWhite Guilt over racisss redneck sheriffs harassing upstanding black citizens. The “mistreatment” tales are also calculated to create a reflex in people that causes them to hesitate in normal confrontations with blacks and instill a kind of deference to them in interactions.

  117. PA…

    There was that ^^^ very cliched scene in “Get Out” only revealed to be “fake anti-racism” for the larger purpose of eugenically-appropriated “black supremacy.”

  118. I talked to an older black man today at a plant nursery. He was knowledgeable about plants and was enjoyable to talk to. He also made a reference to his wife. He was in a white, conservative area. He didn’t seem uncomfortable at all. I generally don’t think law abiding blacks are ill at ease in conservative white areas.

  119. There would still be an NCAA tournament even without black players.

    Agreed —- but still I wonder: Would underhand free throws be mandatory? Hmmm…..

  120. The “mistreatment” tales are also calculated to create a reflex in people that causes them to hesitate in normal confrontations with blacks and instill a kind of deference to them in interactions.

    Hmmm, theyre ‘calculated to create’ as much? Or maybe that just how someone with your attitudes, beliefs and frustrations interprets them.

    the ‘deference’ you speak of happens in any urban setting in which various socio-economic classes are in close proximity, and a sort-of coded protocol develops overtime in order to allow such conflicting demographics to co-reside in RELATIVE “peace” (or, for our purposes, ‘tolerable co-existence.” The upstanding citizens (code: whites) give in and show some basic deference when urban confrontations bring these two groups together; the variable that makes for the lopsided results and white deference to lower prole NAMs is the fact that the group that’s more reckless and nihilistic ironically is the group that rules the streets—— hence, blacks and hispanic proles will ‘win’ those confrontations in say, downtown D.C. parking garages, or dark street corners —– BECAUSE THEY’RE IN AGGREGATE MORE WILLING TO RISK AND LOSE ALL IN THESE WILLY-NILLY MUGGINGS, ETC.

    I mean, is the white accountant with the $190,000 per-year salary, newly arrived infant and trophy-beta caliber wife uptown in Georgetown going to risk flesh and blood with the NAM punk humiliating him in the process of a $20 shakedown? Even if he does have a carry-and-conceal weapon? Is it worth it to him?

    (we discussed this in earlier threads, and this is where i think you’re point about, to have TRUE ethnic coherency and social tranquility, one has to have both a upper-class and a lumpen proletariat that is of the same ethnic stock —– which hasn’t been the case in America for damn near 75-plus years.

    And I don’t see that socio-gamut re-appearing anytime soon.

  121. Alt-writers edit from the Narrative a white man’s God-ordained free will…

    Egalitarian shysters.

  122. Thusly, the Narrative STATES:

    You, white man, must necessarily co-degenerate amongst the nigger given you total lack of God-ordained free will.

  123. Edit:

    You, white man, must necessarily co-degenerate amongst the nigger given [your] total lack of God-ordained free will.

  124. There is a Master Race…

    Such is the consequence of falsifying “universal equality.”

    Yet, this Master Race is both real time and indubitably speculative.

    A super-duper majority opt out…

    Which only necessitates a finer reframe.

    The reality of a Master Race is realized at the level of the racially incarnated individual.

    A racialized Supremacist just is the origin of a Master Race.

    Those infected with “equalitis” understand the above with pathological clarity.

  125. For the record, no moral scolding intended; I’m thinking more empirical truth, though this is a bit to, umm, ‘qualitative’ a subject to be strictly empirical about.

    The empirical truth is that study after study using various metrics, blacks rank highest on measures of self esteem and narcissism. Asians are the lowest, whites in the middle.

  126. Nikcrit,
    I believe PA was talking about the police being pressured to treat blacks with more deference. That isn’t going to happen since the police are more empowered and organized than black people. Black people aren’t angry about the way some random white man treats them, they are angry about their interactions with the police.

  127. O.T.@Camlost:

    How do they determine scheduling pace of the NCAA tournament; I find it hard to have that long a lag between games of teams you’re following. For instance, UW won last Saturday, then have to take six days off before they play a late-evening game Friday. That’s too long a lag in my mind —— but I wonder if there’s some practical concern or necessity that I’m overlooking.

  128. How do they determine scheduling pace of the NCAA tournament; I find it hard to have that long a lag between games of teams you’re following.

    That’s a good question. Right now Turner and CBS jointly own the broadcasting rights to games only they are contracted to use the “march Madness” term and show games. The Badgers are playing on TBS. Playing in Madison Square garden is pretty good exposure for Wisconsin’s basketball recruiting within the Eastern talent hubs.

    I’d imagine those two (literally) take turns choosing which game they want to show once the field of 16 is determined.

    Also, if you sit through a whole selection committee broadcast, and read up on all of their extensive pre-work, analysis and computer scenarios/power rating that is done you’ll see that they can’t possibly be taking TV ramificiations into account during the initial seeding of teams.

    I know if you’re showing UNC you’d want them playing the early game and if you’re showing teams on the other side of the Mississippi (like UCLA) you’d certainly want the late game, but other than that I have no idea…

  129. What’s the psychops of “Negrotown?”

    First, mulatto’s “white” side has blinded him to BOTH “black” reality and the “black” ideal as he inexplicably wanders down some dark, dingy alley and then with mind-boggling collusion between “racist” cop and “black” street bum, he finds himself in “black” utopia.

    Upon a return to reality IS WHERE THE psychops ends and mulatto’s “white” side must now “see” and cede.

    What does the mulatto see when his “white” side cedes?

    Does he fail to see that his nigger side took him down that dark, dingy alley for no discernible reason?

    Does he fail to see that his nigger side wishing all whites to be gone makes “Negrotown” AN EVEN MORE PREPOSTEROUS NOTION?

    Jordan Peele is a mulatto deep in the process of “white” self-annihilation. Yet, the falsehoods to which he holds dear as a real nigger transforms his entire episode to the effect of a “symbiotic regression.”

  130. Another telling aspect of “Negrotown” is how very “gay” the “place” is both in the traditional and modern iteration of the word.

  131. That is Lee’s Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. At some point after the war it became “THE” confederate flag. Someone noted earlier that the actual flag was square; so this is probably a stylized version for who knows?

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