Borjas on Immigration in the NYT

This is an remarkable editorial by economist George Borjas, given its appearance in the New York Times. He asks the right questions; most fundamentally, the question about the impact of immigration on actual Americans. That is a departure from the ruling class’s long-established habit of ignoring that side of the equation. As reflected in their rhetoric and actions, our policy-makers regard the host population as a nullity, and a nullity does not figure into consideration beyond the most perfunctory nod to “impact on the low skilled.” And none at all in matters of compassion. The host society has no identity, much less destiny or aspiration of its own, so its place in any discussion of demographic engineering is an afterthought.

Borjas’ responses to his own questions are framed in the language of immigration-reduction rather than moratorium and reversal, so on face-value it’s business as usual. But he is speaking from a platform that calls for his audience to read between the lines. And given the forum, he delivers the payload. When the right questions are asked, the right answers are only a matter of time.

On compassion:

But what about the 11-million-plus undocumented immigrants already here? A vast majority have led peaceful lives and established deep roots in our communities. Their sudden deportation would not represent the compassionate America that many of us envision.

And he offers an answer to that question in President Trump’s own words:

“We are going to be considerate and compassionate to everyone … But my greatest compassion will be for our own struggling citizens.”

The editorial builds up to a more direct form of address:

Many of my colleagues in the academic community — and many of the elite opinion-makers in the news media — recoil when they hear that immigration should serve the interests of Americans. Their reaction is to label such thinking as racist and xenophobic, and to marginalize anyone who agrees.

And then the check-mate question:

But those accusations of racism reflect their effort to avoid a serious discussion of the trade-offs. The coming debate would be far more honest and politically transparent if we demanded a simple answer from those who disagree with “America First” proposals: Who are you rooting for?

***

I raised some of the same points last year in my farewell to jeb bush (sic).

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53 thoughts on “Borjas on Immigration in the NYT

  1. Well, colonization is not necessarily a bad thing. Any idea can be run either for or against our interests. Use what they give you.

    We might like to flood Israel with anti-semites. Surely they will welcome our contribution to their society?

    Rich neighborhoods too would profit from having many WNs living there. They must invite us in!

    We should play on this diversity stuff. WNs are extremely diverse when compared to the homogeneous liberals. Having a black liberal, a Mex liberal and a feminist liberal is not diverse. There are anarchist WNs, national socialist WNs, communist and Muzz WNs. We’ll enrich them.

  2. I find this relevant, subject being Jorge Ramos declaring that the US belongs to Latinos. A commenter at Vox Popoli expresses my own thoughts:

    “Like an exterminator, Trump is flushing all the cockroaches out into plain view. The homeowners cannot ignore them any longer.”

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  4. Is Slim noticing which way the wind is blowing? Is he “triangulating” by offering a touch of reasonable commentary on top of the mountain of daily madness? Are Trump’s relentless attacks on the press causing — heaven forbid! — a moment of self-reflection?

  5. I’d love to burrow into the bowels of the Screw Your Torque Times building in Times Square, New York, and play reporter with them for a year. I think it’d be a fascinating journey.

    It’s interesting playing the game of “who’s a true blue liberal and who’s playing along somewhat” when you read the NYT. Friedman doesn’t strike me as super-lib, although he frequently doses his readers with friendly-globalist-estrogen. Dowd is some bitch I don’t care for. She had an article once about the North Koreans “just trying to get our attention and be liked by us.” She’s about as deep as any chick writer.

    But no, it’s tragic that the Screw-Torque has the best writers in the biz. I’m a big enough god that I can admit it.

  6. The people opposed to the “America First” principle would have a much easier time answering who they are rooting against; America – the country they hate.

  7. Thanks to you and Cam for sharing this. I sent it to a liberal. He agreed to read it because it is in the New York Times.

  8. I watched the movie. These niggers are batshit crazy. Jordan Squeele simply cannot stand outside the symbiotic regression that he perpetuates with his fellow “white” self-annihilators.

  9. Wow, look at this article on the move “Get Out” (Sailer is covering it) that appeared in Cosmopolitan

    Steve sailer says:

    “This kind of naked racial hostility was less socially encouraged before about 2012 or 2013.”

    He’s right.

    The out and out anti white racism and hostility in my generation and younge has just ratcheted up throughout the obama years and now with the election of Trump has reached a fever pitch. Every time I open Facebook my feed is plastered with anti-white screeds over the most trivial offenses; for instance one black female I know found that cosmo article offensive because “they just now figured out racism is scary? Smh white people!”

    Now Asians are getting in on it. Take for instance how this failure of gym ettiquete became an exercise of white supremacy.

    “Talk about white privilege and priority…I was in the gym working out. As I proceeded to this weight machine, this white guy ran up to me and said “I got one more set to go”…I replied “excuse me, I got here first!”. The white guy then chuckled and said alright without apologizing. We all pay for the same price for the membership so what makes you the priority to the machines?! After living in America for 19 years, I’ve learned to stand up for yourself otherwise, the white folks will step you down literally. #fuckracism #racism #whitesuperior #whiteprivilege”

  10. LOL, an Asian gamma got punked by Chad and then told all of his friend and family about it.

    It’s good in the long run that anti-Whites expose their true feelings about us. Clarity.

  11. If someone asked me to let him finish a set, I would. Going by very little detail in the story and the high probability that the exchange was a fabricated mini-hate crime, Chad probably didn’t even literally punk him or do anything rude.

  12. RE: “I watched the movie.”

    Come on, Thor; nothingless than full confession and vindication is to be summoned here; you mean to say “I contributed my $10 ticket to Peele’s emergent and radically autonomous wealth.”

  13. What is the gym etiquette on that? Are you supposed to let someone finish their set?

    Generally the etiquette is to ask if you can work in, and then alternate sets. And that is a very social and bro-ish thing to do, and might could be regarded as overbearing.

    On something like the bench, it is a personal space and would be an imposition. Obviously real men can figure it out for themselves.

  14. The nearby discount gym is Planet Fitness, who were in the news last year about their trannies in the locker room.

    I passed by there today and the place was hopping, and not with depression case nowheresville fatso suburban basket-case faggots; rather instead with 20-somethings to the right side of the bell curve.

    In other words yoga pants and beards.

    The point being though, that the place was packed, and it goes to show that the young people want to hang out and socialize, and where else can they go?

    My obsession is some other alternative. I would like to see the empty storefronts in that same mall converted into community rec rooms, some of which would have pianos.

    Why that can’t happen is one of those questions, that can’t be answered.

  15. “It’s interesting playing the game of “who’s a true blue liberal and who’s playing along somewhat” when you read the NYT. Friedman doesn’t strike me as super-lib, although he frequently doses his readers with friendly-globalist-estrogen.”

    Hmmmm, perhaps this background feature information about Friedman provides a bit of heft in terms of context, ya think?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/billionaire-scion-tom-fri_b_26164.html

    For all you regulars who’re a bit pressed for time tonight, here’s the link’s second paragraph in its entirety; hence, the aforementioned ‘heft’ and ‘context’ promised:

    “As the July edition of the Washingtonian Magazine notes, Friedman lives in “a palatial 11,400-square-foot house, now valued at $9.3 million, on a 7½-acre parcel just blocks from I-495 and Bethesda Country Club.” He “married into one of the 100 richest families in the country” – the Bucksbaums, whose real-estate Empire is valued at $2.7 billion. “

    Isn’t it a amazing that such a incredibly powerful mitigating biographical detail like that applied to one of the most vaunted media perches on the globe is only casually known among his readership? And does not such a fact inevitably produce unavoidable conflict of interest?

    So,the world’s most prolific yet objective and learned voice of the emerging global economy is among the international-corporate elite and probably less than 10-percent of his readership knows of his background.

  16. “Generally the etiquette is to ask if you can work in, and then alternate sets. And that is a very social and bro-ish thing to do, and might could be regarded as overbearing.”

    That’s very noble of ya, brotato-chip!

  17. “The point being though, that the place was packed, and it goes to show that the young people want to hang out and socialize, and where else can they go?”

    Maybe the beat DOES go on, but ‘you’ (i.e., ‘me’ and other thoughtful but aging dudes) just can’t shimmy to the zeitgeist anymore? I mean, do the hipster throngs still pack Uptown and Dinkytown or wherever the new young and the restless congregate?

    In my experience, Brewtown boasts a bar scene for the hipsters; everybody drinks here; while Chicago was massive enough to have considerable scenes of every type up and running and profitable. And then in LA and NY there were the ‘tourist’ joints and the ‘real’ joints, which truly had a symbiotic relationship, as thor would note….

    IDK, the more you raise the subject, the more i realize how often my aging butt stays home these days. Social media accounts for ‘even’ much of my personal friend interaction….. we’ve paid our dues and now have enough memories to not care if it’s ‘live or Memorex.” lol…

  18. “So,the world’s most prolific yet objective and learned voice of the emerging global economy is among the international-corporate elite and probably less than 10-percent of his readership knows of his background.”

    Sailer pointed this out ages ago. Yes, Friedman is nothing more than a globalist shill. He is literally the consensus opinion. “Consensus” being what the Globalists want you to believe. Friedman is a bug, an insect. He isn’t smart, but he’s canny (much like Obama). He knows how the game is played, and what side to be on. If there truly is a Trump revolution and the nation shifts dramatically right/nationalist, you can bet Friedman will be right there without missing a beat, acting like he was a Trump supporter all along.

  19. I just want to point out, for no reason, that I wrote that last comment while listening, at blaring volume, to Rick James’ “Super Freak.” That, my friends, is a hook.

  20. “Sailer pointed this out ages ago.”

    I’ve known it too for a long time. Many people should and many more do but our relatively low-key about it.

    But what genuinely surprises me is how little the subject is raised, whether in a way simpliy to make it known that x-subject knows about him. Or, more ominous IMO, why the fact isn’t raised in conflict-of-interest way when citing certain points and contentions in his columns.

    About a third of his columns could be arguably described as self-serving in some way.

  21. Speaking of immigration, Trump’s plan to publish a list of crimes committed by “aliens” is not only the biggest troll job in the universe, but it’s focusing the blazing light of truth into the murky depths of globalism. It’s so brilliant, and so f’ing ballsy, that I’m staggered by it. He’s really going to do it. Lift the rug and expose the roaches. Even the white shitlibs might start to go “hmmmm” when they see how many Jose’s and Mohammed’s show up on that list. Every. Single. Week.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-speech-voice-immigrants-crimes-list-agency-donald-joint-address-congress-a7604836.html

  22. In my experience, Brewtown boasts a bar scene for the hipsters

    Minneapolis could never compete on that front.

    Some people make it work for em, I guess, but it always struck me as full of posers. Of course there was the famous music scene here, back in the day, but they have been living off those fumes for literally decades now.

    My observations about the want of a scene here, are particular to the suburbs. After all, that IS where most of us live.

    And then on top of that, though there might have been a scene Downtown or Uptown at one time, that is no longer the case.

    It is hard to separate one’s own frame of observations, from the general goings-on — but even so, it is safe to say that the scene has deteriorated along with the general consensus on what it means to be an American.

    What do they call that “general consensus on what it means to be an American” — that missing identity is the dog that didn’t bark, or maybe there is a better metaphor. But that is what has been on the recede since forever, but it feels to me that it fell off a cliff along with the appearance of the internet.

    There was a bar called The Uptown, which was Uptown, and it closed in maybe it was 1995, and at which time the ghost of Prince was never scene nor heard of again.

    But now that same block is 100 per cent corporate and is lame as hell. There is no community feel at all, and there is no local identity. The old-time hipsters are either in recovery or dead or moved out to the suburbs.

  23. My observation about the young people in the nearby gym, wanting for a place to socialize, is that those same people would have moved to the city, 20 years ago when I was their age. That was what I did, and of course kids still do that, but my impression is that maybe more of them are sticking around and living here.

    The Minneapolis scene is fucked. I think that somehow Minneapolis fails in that regard, as compared to Chicago or something. I really don’t know though. My view of it is very jaded. I don’t like to go into the city at all anymore except as necessary.

    It is a mean vibe, down at Calhoun, or on Nicollet Mall. And sure enough there are gun crimes that go down there, where there used not to be.

    The whole lack of consensual community inter-psychic space — that lack of a coherent cultural identity — which weird thing I am trying to get at, seems (tellingly) not to have the necessary vocabulary to describe … this is all the dog that doesn’t bark.

    Something about that metaphor seems right. How is it that we are losing our culture, and can’t form a protest? (yeah we voted for Trump i know)

  24. Feelings of isolation are hard to measure and quantify.

    What metric are you going to use, diagnoses of paranoid schizophrenia? (excuse me while I have a laugh, it’s a personal joke)

    But it is not a radical suggestion, that more people are feeling more disconnected from a meaningful day to day sense of belonging in society.

    And that meaningful day to day sense of belonging, is the very fabric of culture. Realistically, can that be measured or even surmised, beyond a sensitive intuition?

    I doubt very much that it can. Inherently, definitely, that sense cannot be measured.

    I am reading The Meaning of Human Existence, by Eddie Boy Wilson, and he sure does have a personality and a way with words. His genius is multifaceted wow. And he says it simply that, to be alone is to be in pain.

    Think of this population explosion, and how our scaled-up society has outrun the evolution of our social natures, and take that as a starting point on how messed up an average Joe might be, and how dysfunctional his personality.

  25. The point being though, that the place was packed, and it goes to show that the young people want to hang out and socialize, and where else can they go?

    People don’t socialize in gyms anywhere near as much as they did in the 90’s due to the ease of music/headphones today. The younger crowd gets in and out quick, usually not even changing clothes in the dressing room. The over 40+ crowd may take their time and actually talk face to face a little.

    Gym designs are also changing,too:

  26. The Minneapolis scene is fucked.

    Yeah, it’s too cold to leave the house for 300+ days a year.

  27. “But now that same block is 100 per cent corporate and is lame as hell.”

    Yeah, part of getting older is I’m projecting a lot of my views of the Twin Cities into the distant time frame I gathered those perceptions; the earliest were as an underage teen playing music and sneaking into places like First Ave and The Pacific Club; later, as a young adult, in the late 90s going to gigs at all sorts of venues, hanging back at Lee’s Liquor Lounge—— but you’re right; much of that is long gone past.

    But then: what exactly IS the hip going-out scene? Who’s allowed? Who’s banned.. I mean, the back section of the City Pages and whatever other weekly? Is that hip culture?

    Part of it is just getting older and wiser and realizing how full of shite’ you were in your wasted youth. Lol…

    Now THERE IS an aging man’s lament for ya!

  28. btw, coincidental to two of tonight’s O.T. tangents: Thomas Friedman, I believe, is originally from the Minneapolis suburb St. Louis Park.

  29. Planet Fitness is probably a good source of material.

    The locker rooms are absolutely out of the question. At a place like that, anyone going into the locker is gay.

    They out to be put signs on the doors, to that effect.

  30. O.T.@Camlost,

    Since you’re pretty much the only other hip-hop listener here, you should check this story out. To get to the gist of it, what he’s doing in terms of sales and audience is pretty amazing; I had an early seat and attendance to his rise, working high-schools; i’ve seen him rise from nowhere; today’s he’s a god amongst the kids; he and Chance, who i think is better, even tho Future gets all the white-pop-critic kudos, which are in higher-circulation venues but that don’t really tap much into either rapper’s particular market.

    I bet in my milieu of h.s. Nams, Snapchat sells more albums than does as glowing review in the New York Times. LOL….No brainer, on that one.

  31. @ Trickin – did I tell you that I was in the same bowling league as Big Boi for a few years?

    Also, I saw TI walking down the street the other day and he is teeny tiny beyond belief.

  32. Cam, Autotune is much, much more prevalent than you let on in your critical soundbytes on the topic….. btw, all those higher-than-thou pop integrity ethics re. live instrumentation and no modulated pitch on vocals is for pious white alt-rockers (like our bloghost and his urge for primal communion via redundant and pretentious grunge bands than it is imperative to flashy young and ostenatious-wealth-obsessed rap negroes!

    I would’ve guessed you knew all that alread! 🙂

  33. You should go hunt down Future in some trendy Atlanta nightclub, take some candids of his and his crew, then sell ’em to TMZ; Atlanta’s getting hot again on the pop zeitgeist; visions of Todd Thomas and Arrested Development all over again.

  34. Cam, Autotune is much, much more prevalent than you let on in your critical soundbytes on the topic…..

    I would’ve guessed you knew all that alread!

    LOL, no I didn’t realize that about autotune was prevalent outside of those who make it their whole shtick. Really?

    But on the topic of “live instrumentation” if you remember I made T-Whack really mad once when he was in here bragging about being a musician and how white folks can’t understand Jimi Hendrix, etc. etc. I told him that just makes him a corny brother because blacks under 40 can’t even name a song by Jimi Hendrix and don’t care about live instrumentation in the least, the truth hurt.

    You should go hunt down Future in some trendy Atlanta nightclub,

    Nah, Magic City is not my type of place I don’t like stretch marks and extra wide ass. lol

  35. Nikcrit…

    If you are a Whoring Squeal then you must make “good” out of an inexplicable taboo on separation? You do this by projecting an anti-separation anxiety disorder via the movie medium. So in sitting in front of the tv while your mother dies in the street, your total detachment is proof positive that one positively suffers no separation anxiety. So what then explains the taboo on separation if not a separation anxiety disorder? Well, “white” malevolence, of course. Smart nigger knows that “white genocide” originates in white female self-annihilation. Buttjew are also part of a “revolution” of miscegenation which appears devoid of imperial intent while being laced with racial animus for white female. Ergo, at no point in this “horror” flick did one get the impression that “black dude” saw an actual future family with his “white” girl. All he really knew was “racism” (and his eye for photography… So he could see… Really see… But he does not actually see). And lastly, one could hardly miss the obvious and now cliched conflation of “white liberals,” Nazi-like eugenics and implicit notions of “white supremacy.” So the unreality of the entire scenario made the “horror” aspect of the film incredibly lame. In fact, the horror experienced in the watching of the film will be most directly felt by those who delusionally perceive a deep truth in the idea that “white supremacists” cannot survive outside their demonically-inspired, co-dependent relationship to the coloreds.

    Which brings “us” right back to the inexplicable taboo on separation as maintained by a Whoring Squeal and how such shaky posture is best explained by a severe separation anxiety suffered by a super-majority of “blacks” silently aware that real racial separation will unleash a torrent of “black” self-annihilation as never before seen in the USA.

  36. Now, Nicholas Confessore is a GOP reporter I can stand up for; he’s the nytimes.com official ‘conservative’ voice when it comes time to pick teams for those cable-news show panels. But he’s also a real reporter, investigative with a capital “I.”

    peterike oftren sounds a cautionary note about the depth of bankster-class crime and other perfidies of the 1%. Well, check this link out if you want to see how tangled the mess really is.

    This kind of shite is truly daunting, and if Trump could create task forces to get to this stuff, i’d truly be imperssed and maybe even converted, lol! But I got the feeling Trump and his holdings would more likely turn out to confirm the kind of practices exemplified in this investigative piece rather than find and indict them.

    Maybe LBF could weigh in, as his avatar here sorta covers the ‘1%” rep of the commetariat.

  37. “How to Hide $400 Million”

    How much does a real fake passport cost, assuming one can connect with that higher-level criminal world?

    My guess would be 50 thousand dollars, maybe twice that.

    The picture of that couple, is that how wasp richies look these days? (very Tom Wolfe)

    The guy is wearing shorts though. What what Tom Wolfe say about that.

    Wouldn’t it be cool if Tom Wolfe would weigh in. Maybe he participates somewhere related.

  38. Cam, et.al,

    Looks like that interracial horror thriller ‘Get Out” is a break out hit.

    Apparently, the fact that it has the unprecedented plot element making a TSA agent the hero is what’s putting box office over the top….. Lol!

  39. “How much does a real fake passport cost, assuming one can connect with that higher-level criminal world?”

    That report was a tremendously intriguing piece, IMO; think of how much work it would be doing the background on such an investigative piece: the roadblocks put before you; the dealing with professionals whose elite skill is how to obstruct you; the possible danger you’re putting yourself in by threatening people and networks with unlimited resources?

    And reconsider the reality of his summation: these total offshore wealth waysides exceed $25 trillion dollars, by attributed published estimates, more than the ‘publicly accounted-for US economy in a given year.

    Two questions that are really one big question: How would you take down something so huge? And how would you do so without causing collateral panic and damage that would be colossal in its totality?

    I don’t recall seeing populist or ‘layman’ level reporting taking on that detailed a subject. Not even the middle-brow financial press (i.e., Bloomberg, WSJ, Fortune) have delved that deep, though my context for said opinion is hardly exhaustive.

  40. “Trickin – did I tell you that I was in the same bowling league as Big Boi for a few years?

    Also, I saw TI walking down the street the other day and he is teeny tiny beyond belief.”

    I just saw A1 guesting in this old vid of R Kelly’s…. He’s what? 8,9, 10 years into the game? He’s almost too old to be a producer nowadays.

    btw Cam, since you’re always asking and/or assuming that i like these thick rap-vid hootchie types, the one here, at the 1:03 mark, is iconic of my halfrican dreamscape of a girl—— or at least the visage that would be ideal to me in my younger, more carnal days. Yum!!

  41. .., make that 1:05 to 1:08; you gotta look quick in the vids; so much flesh, so little time….

    LOL, two girls in this (bad) video are out of place. See if you can spot them. I know them both very well, they’re good friends. (not in that way) Of course every time I see them around I sing the refrain over and over and all they can do is laugh.

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