Cutting to the Chase with Cucks

There is a proper time to deliver a perspective-changing truth by way of a simple statement. By cucks, what I mean right here is ordinary people who aren’t bad, they just oppose President Trump because our political revolution is so outside of their experience. They are sometimes older people with a narrow comfort zone, sometimes too golly-gee in their conservative temperament to process the idea of The God Emperor getting things done. Many have internalized the decades of liberal messaging to the point of fearing any overt political advocacy on their behalf. Unlike with SJWs, who are best cut from your life, reaching these people is worth a shot.

Objections to Trump we’ve all heard from such individuals:

  • “He’s a clown.”
  • “Melania’s past photos.”
  • “He’s racist.”
  • “He hates women.”
  • “I’m worried about his rhetoric.”

Complex arguments won’t reach them, because you’re up against an immovable wall of mental habit. Even if you make a persuasive case, one minute later they’ll forget everything you said. Batting down their individual objections is a waste of time.

Instead, have a dead-serious expression, look him or her in the eye, and say:

“Listen to me. The world is on fire. It’s going to destroy all of us. Here and now, Donald Trump is the one chance we’ve got.”

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43 thoughts on “Cutting to the Chase with Cucks

  1. Objections to Trump we’ve all heard from such individuals:

    “He’s racist.”

    Was discussing Trump on another forum with a self-described, 50+ California liberal and he quipped “no, I don’t think Trump is racist but he did make it a campaign point to appeal to make nakedly obvious appeals to play on the emotions of older, highly patriotic whites.”

    When I asked him why it was ok for Hillary to appeal directly and blatantly to blacks, Hispanics, women and Muslims who aren’t even here yet he was taken aback. He admitted that he was so tied up in the election that maybe he wasn’t fair in “allowing” that core Americans should be able to have some interests of their own. LOL, that’s what you get for 50+ years of paying taxes and serving in the armed forces – a party that imports people they can huddle with to decide if you should be “allowed” to vote your conscience.

  2. Great use of dialectic with someone who is receptive to it in the first place. I should add that the “level with them” rhetoric I illustrated is a nuclear option you go with when you know that other avenues of persuasion won’t work.

  3. Possibly, and it doesn’t matter. Best to leave it that, once you make that statement. Getting sucked into a debate afterwards will knock you off your sure footing. “There is nothing else to say.”

    You MUST deliver the nuclear rhetoric with full conviction in your voice, eyes, body language, consistent with your personality… whether you’re dramatic or calm in your normal style, be congruent with that.

  4. But the administration is acting like it is true, that nothing can be done. At the very moment when he has followers lined up, he ignores them. Other than a few top level political picks, who has in any way suffered for oppressing him or his supporters? Has a single DOJ prosecution been dropped? Has a single prisoner been released? Is our money still flowing to hostile countries?

    Milo and Flynn, in their respective ways, shows that his allies are being picked off with no response. There’s no reason to publicly support the administration because it won’t do anything to help its own.

    One of the best attack lines on Obama was that he “Rewarded his enemies and punished his friends”, which was fairly apt. A regime surrounded by foes that does not protect its own will soon find its own house divided.

  5. ““Listen to me. The world is on fire. It’s going to destroy all of us. Here and now, Donald Trump is the one chance we’ve got.””

    Too much hysteria, IMO; or the larger society and its mediation force makes it very hard for such a statement to not be read that way.

    No, I think Camlost revealed a tactic that’s convincing a few times while discussing topics related but not ostensibly about how specifically to ‘cut to the chase’: rather, admit that Trump is unorthodox, admit that ‘he could use a little polish on this or that,” etc. ——- but then drive home how he’s a refreshingly merely in his disturbing the status-quo of gridlock and blue-vs-red/red-vs-blue protest and very, very predictable p.c. sanctimony.

    I think Trump’s mere presence in presiding as POTUS has made many of the entrenched p.c. postures and tactics seem suddenly very, very tired and that much worse for wear.

    There’s a viable point that needs to be made and that can be persuasive on someone once it’s pointed out to him or her: You don’t have to like Trump or be in step with him plank-by-partisan plank TO APPRECIATE HIS PROVEN ABILITY TO GET ABOVE THE P.C. FRAY AND ACHIEVE SOMETHING, I.E. ‘GET SOMETHING DONE.’

    That predictable p.,c. sanctimonious-fueled gridlock on governing is something that ‘both sides’ are very, very sick of (even if conservatives more than liberals are frustrated by the gears of government getting jammed up)

    In modern times, p.c. sentiment and sway has been the prevailing Apollonian force, with its heavy-handed sentiment and reason eventually paralyzing; Trump’s Dionysian counter-force, irrational as hell at times but emotionally liberating, is a power whose time has come around again and can prevail for a while IF IT’S USED WITH EVEN JUST A MODICUM OF RESTRAINT AND GOOD SENSE (insert a moral scold about the Yiannopoulos flap and the perils of taint by association).

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  7. — Other than a few top level political picks, who has in any way suffered for oppressing him or his supporters? (Ulric)

    It didn’t sit well with me when he said nothing about San Jose attacks on his supporters while the police stood down. But we have to be patient and trust The God Emperor. We don’t know his game plan, only that he has one. What is his priority? He is surrounding himself with generals who have killed men. Maybe the Swamp knows what he’s up to and helplessly posts “Democracy dies in darkness” on their high-circulation blogs.

    He’s prepared, he thinks big, he always wins, and he has first-rate sons. This is a time for both faith and action.

    — Too much hysteria (Nikcrit)

    Not in the context in which I prescribed it. There are occasions when this is the perfect thing to say. Everyone here has enough social intelligence to not yell that into people’s faces at a kid’s birthday party.

    Liberals, though, can be social retards. If one of them starts off on Trump at that same party, you give him a judgmental look and say “Time and place, brah. Time and place.”

    You use my line with someone who is inclined toward conservatism but is stuck on nonsense reasons to be against Trump (per the title of this post). It is how you break through his ear wax. It’s not a universal debate tool. I don’t even debate with liberals.

  8. This is high grade rhetoric here. On the day after my wedding a lot of my good friends from the Navy were shooting the shit around a fire after a few years apart. This was back in October and we naturally ended up on politics. I have another good guy who is at least 90% there, but we couldn’t make any progress on the general “both options suck” feeling until I dropped this type of argument.

    Everyone in the West feels that something is very, very wrong. Even if it is a vague feeling, we all know things are not right. Once you acknowledge that, the leap to “better something new than more of the same” is easily accomplished.

  9. What I always say is “clinton is fiddling while rome burns” as for the ridiculous identity politics especially trans bathroom rights” is this the hill you want to die on?”

  10. You use my line with someone who is inclined toward conservatism but is stuck on nonsense reasons to be against Trump (per the title of this post). It is how you break through his ear wax. It’s not a universal debate tool. I don’t even debate with liberals.

    You mean, I guess, conservative-leaning mental gammas deltas and betas who are disgusted by leftism but not independent and daring enough to pierce the mainstream veil of deception everybody is wrapped in.
    “Cucks.”

    I have one such friend. He’s a computer programmer, smart as they all are. He’s aware the mainstream media is fake news, and repelled by leftism; pro-Brexit, pro-Trump.
    But all in his social circle (= his colleagues) are leftists, bots who recite the mainstream fake truths by heart.

    He sees much of the truth, but is damn scared of losing respectability, so he represses himself. This means that he sees the whole picture less for the root causes of the problems; he sees the whole fakery but not the truth the fakery is meant to cover up.

    One day, he wrote that, finally free from White oppression, it’s likely the South of Africa will see a great technological and scientific rise in the 21th century: they possibly will be the leading global force by the end of the century.
    Armed with my 70 social quotient, I intervened with a truthful comment.
    Obviously, it achieved nothing.

    He’s so conflicted. For example, he’ll say immigration is ruinous and should be halted. But he will not say, or think, that immigrants have lower skills and other genetic differences. So he comes up with baseless, laughable excuses to back up his theory that immigration is wrong.
    He’d feel ashamed if he allowed himself to know the true reasons.

  11. YFG: I know people like that. In the post below I wrote that they will all finally make their way to full woken-ness, but I am not so sure of it now.

    The Democratic Party’s bumbling and overly blatant anti-white shift to the left will help get a lot of these folks off the fence. We already saw a not insignificant rise in the number of idealistic whites who just voted for the Green, Libertarian or Progressive party. A lot of them were BernieBros who are starting to see what is coming.

    The high-office Democrats who come after Obama won’t have his slick delivery, white guilt boost and ability to talk out of both sides of his mouth so well, bolstering by an adoring press.

    #BLM has been quiet lately. (partly because Soros has been quiet and not funding them $$ with Viktor Orban tightening the screws on him in Hungary) But just imagine when #BLM starts complaining about all of the attention on Middle Eastern immigration and wanting more attention back on their needs?

    Wait, wait, wait… didn’t Camlost predict all of this?

  12. I’ve already been saying something similar to libertarian friends on a private FB page I am part of. I believe it, too. It spooked them a little when I said it as I sandwiched a repeat of the statement between a lot of dot connecting for them. We’ll see if they come around.

  13. Most people don’t want to be racist because it’s not nice.

    I don’t want to be racist, myself. I don’t say that ironically.

    However, hard-headed politics cannot be based on lies. I am not going to lie to myself about what is going to work for society. As a somewhat mature adult, such delusions are demeaning.

    The larger problem is how humans are going to fit themselves into their dwindling habitat. The problems of exponential population growth are upon us. Even if there were a magical source of energy, resources are depleting and habitat is degrading to the point where fewer people will have shorter lives.

    A reduction of the overall human population, or at the least hard limits on its growth, are preferable to a mass extinction event of most all the other higher mammals that require habitat of their own.

    I can’t support a human biomass that takes over the planet at the expense of everything else. This is not an unusual feeling to have.

    What has left white people listless and enervated is that their self-created habitat lacks esthetics. That can be repeated a million times. Our problems come down to that. That is the reason why so many quality (white) people don’t give a shit for their future: because they look at the effect that their exponential growth has on the planet.

    That jew feminist quote about the white race being the cancer of the Earth, is misunderstood, but the kernel of truth in it, is that the white race and its technological advances have activated the exponential growth that is overwhelming the planet.

  14. This criticism is not aimed at anyone here (necessarily), but I consider the AR’s esthetics to be shallow.

    Perhaps that can be remedied. I try and do my part, whatever it may be.

    The flip side is that we don’t really have a choice, but to fight for the last tree on the island, because if we don’t take it down, someone else will. It is an intractable dilemma.

    Edward Wilson tries to address this in his writing, that he puts out for the non-scientists. I have only scanned what he has to say.

  15. The most beautiful environments to me are well managed nature. Totally wild nature is hard to enjoy. Over populated dumps are terrible. The best is a happy medium.

  16. I like the graphics that PA has come up with.

    And someone might reasonably ask, what has been my contribution, to a new esthetic.

    But weighted against McWorld, it just doesn’t seem like much.

  17. “That jew feminist quote about the white race being the cancer of the Earth, is misunderstood, but the kernel of truth in it, is that the white race and its technological advances have activated the exponential growth that is overwhelming the planet.”

    That denouement about technology and the white race is certainly true; but, if tech can somehow wind up saving humanity from the bind that earlier tech has led humanity into, you can bet that those supreme middlemost whites will have commandeered that develop as well….. Sooo, six-vs.-a-half-dozen anyone?

    “That jew feminist quote about the white race being the cancer of the Earth, is misunderstood, but the kernel of truth in it, “

    I think that self-critical assessment (i.e., from a ‘fellow white”) that the white race lacks a defining culture and aesthetic, etc., is an ironic oversight…… ironic in that white culture, development, aesthetic and other transcending essentialist criteria is soo absolutely prevalent, hinged and determining to our collective here-and-now that it is just profoundly humble oversight to genuinely believe white’s lack collective identity, will and strategic mission.

    No, I say that is the existential harangue and jujitsu that infects or at least at times influences EVERY civilizational leading group or ethne during a given reign or epoch in history; and history tidily affirms as much.

  18. No, I say that is the existential harangue and jujitsu that infects or at least at times influences EVERY civilizational leading group or ethne during a given reign or epoch in history; and history tidily affirms as much.

    Really?

    Can you think of another example of that phenomenon aside from the Jews endlessly and eternally kvetching about whatever dominant host culture they reside in?

  19. Also, there’s a reason you hear mostly women say stuff like that. They will never be held truly accountable when things go wrong. Susan Sontag may think it’s cute to bash the white patriarchy, but when a plane crashes into the World Trade Center it won’t be her rushing in to save the women and children. Merkel can throw open the floodgates to the brown Muslim hoards but when shit hits the fan it’s the white patriarchy that will have to clean up her little mess.

  20. Speaking of which and to TMI, i recently hit 165 lbs, which was my school weight. And so now i figure that hs girls are appropriate targets. I mean come on, what’s a little ephebophilia?

    (And yeah even here that needs to be explicitly qualified as a joke.

    But it’s not.)

  21. Regarding Title IX and girls wrestling and the related transgender issues.

    The headline in the local msm piss-paper yesterday:

    “Governor Dayton opposes Trump, says Transgender Bathrooms a Human Right”

    That was the front page article, readable through the glass. Talk about a relic system, they still sell those papers at the old dispensers. What is that called in business-speak, a sunk cost, legacy costs?

    Governor Dayton is well known to be mentally ill (it’s “an open secret”), and there is no doubt that he truly and fervently believes that he is a righteous man. 50 years ago whenever, his family was one of the richest in the state.

    Without even looking into it, it is a safe bet that he went to Blake. How John Hughes is that?

  22. “Can you think of another example of that phenomenon aside from the Jews endlessly and eternally kvetching about whatever dominant host culture they reside in?”

    Any leading sector of humanity, akin to white western leaders in recent centuries, are going to have those same intracultural fights and challenges; maybe i didn’t say ‘western’ earlier; but i felt i was making a basically general point, etc.

    btw, I was wondering what you thought of the yiannopoulos flap, and what, if anything, it signifies about future gay-alt-right detente?

  23. re. this

    http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/article/18767310/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-euless-trinity-wins-texas-state-girls-wrestling-title

    And all the hullabaloo in its wake: if you notice, there’s this implied sense of natural ‘critical mass’ to alll these gender issue/reassignment/toilet.rights debates.

    But since when? I mean, why and how has this issue reached such a heightened and dramatic and UNIFORM stance all of the sudden? What was the defining and gathering incident.

    The answer of course is: is there none; it was obviously created but by whom? Who benefits from this nonsense; i’m sure most here will say ‘the left’ —— but howso?

    IDK; i’m sort of willfully naive about a lot of these matters. I will say this, however: like many men entering middle-age, i have some regrets about not becoming a father.

    But it is stories like the one we’re discussing here that make me not feel so anxious about holding off.

  24. All Milo tells “us” is that it was, first and foremost, Alt-Flight because the limp-twisted mass of dull faggots weren’t about to fight (most heteros won’t fight). There is an “other” to do such dirty deeds. And now it’s all about the exposure of the next most degenerate act of radical sexual autonomy. So MILO is smashing two turds with one bone.

  25. Milo does indeed tell us that many will not fight. Milo himself was indeed the wrong hill to die on, but considering his stature, it’s a mistake to let him be put down in this way.

    As I remind everyone, Spencer’s attacker is still unidentified, and no one has been arrested in Berkley for attacking police officers with lethal weapons. Same for San Jose, Albuquerque, and of course, Chicago. A reasonable person would reach the conclusion that the arms of the State are either unable or unwilling to deal with the situation.

  26. Las Vegas Sun on Trump’s war against liberal media slant:

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/commentary-donald-trump-has-point-about-liberal-media-bias

    Jason Riley, a columnist for the Wall Street Journal, wrote, “The president is on firmer ground than his media foes,” adding, “The press seems more interested in berating the president than in covering him.”

    It’s one thing to notice that much of the press has abandoned its traditional role of detached observer and swung openly into a more unusual activist posture, effectively joining the “resistance.” It’s another thing to start offering readers guidance on how to start tuning out in response.

    Conrad Black, my former partner in the New York Sun and a longtime press baron who once controlled some of the world’s largest and best newspapers, wrote, “Provided that what is meant is that those outlets have been so slanted and malicious that they have misled the declining section of the country that takes them seriously and that this is inimical to the country’s democratic desire for an informed electorate, it is a justified statement.”

  27. btw, I was wondering what you thought of the yiannopoulos flap, and what, if anything, it signifies about future gay-alt-right detente?

    Milo was the target of the liberal lynch mob for good reason: he made people laugh, and it’s the one thing dour busybody liberals can’t control. Milo took his message to the inner sanctum of the cathedral: the university, and that could not be tolerated.

    even though he never sat well with the alt-right, every alt-right personality gave him the back handed compliment that he is a fighter and did more to shift the overton window than anyone else.

    I also wouldn’t count him out yet:

    ***

    As for the gay issue and the right in general – at this juncture it’s a non-issue, at least not an issue anyone has the appetite to revisit.

    I was on a date the other week with a guy in San Francisco, and we both noted how the younger guys coming up behind us seem so well put together, without the mental quirks and layers upon layers of psychic scar tissue we see in our cohort. essentially, what we are seeing is a generation of men that have not been wholesale rejected by their peers, their church, from sports, etc… and the irony that it won’t be long before we are put on the shelf as the creepy old guy at the bar, when we were the ones who took the slings and arrows for them. We then attempted to find some redemption or silver lining in all that, but we couldn’t in all honesty.

  28. IDK; i’m sort of willfully naive about a lot of these matters. I will say this, however: like many men entering middle-age, i have some regrets about not becoming a father.

    But it is stories like the one we’re discussing here that make me not feel so anxious about holding off.

    I agree, it’s insane, it’s child abuse. Camille Paglia has said many times that she if she was growing up today, she might have been tempted to go “trans” due to her gender non-conformity – and it would have ruined her. No one should be injecting testosterone into an incompletely developed 17 year old female. I am as clueless as you as to how this became the issue du jour.

    I’m just curious though, you said something like this would dissuade you from having children, but what if this was your son:

    http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ncaaf/ua/2017/02/25/arizona-wildcats-my-king-johnson-make-ncaa-history-1st-openly-gay-football-scholarship-player/98408044/

    When Johnson told UA assistant Vince Amey about his sexuality while being recruited, the coach’s reaction — “We want you to be a Wildcat” — was exactly what he wanted to hear.
    Now, the 17-year-old is an unintentional trailblazer.
    “I do feel like when I say that, it can put a target on my back,” Johnson said about being open about his sexuality.
    “But whatever.”

  29. IDK; i’m sort of willfully naive about a lot of these matters. I will say this, however: like many men entering middle-age, i have some regrets about not becoming a father.

    What’s more, is that older men are likely to contain more genetic load in their sperm.

    I don’t know how the science of that works, but to my knowledge that is a true statement.

  30. “What’s more, is that older men are likely to contain more genetic load in their sperm.”

    So that would be the basis of sweet juicy PYT’s saying that older men are gross. (it’s not just the nose hair)

  31. But speaking of gay mating rites, anyone ever go to the so-called cafes such as Caribou and Starbucks?

    Obviously people go there to be social and what are the alternatives? but once they are there all they do is stare into their screens.

    It is a hackneyed observation, but the weirdness and DYSFUNCTION of it, is strong.

    What young people, and not so young people for that matter, are lacking is structured social interaction.

    This scaled-up society with no organic community to speak of, is no fun.

    Everyone is responsible for finding their own solution to the situation, but if you go to Caribou? everyone sitting in there staring at their screen, has not found that solution.

    Most of the people at the local shop are often enough youngish women, and they stare into their computers AS IF they are doing something useful or important. Learn to fucking sew you useless stupid twat silly girl! oh but that would be just too “weird” wouldn’t it.

  32. I am working on a blanket now, which should include some ten-thousands of stitches, and a nested four-color pattern, and trying to learn the more efficient Irish lever, rather than the beginner’s American throw.

    Once my sewing levels are high enough, i am going to offer in-house lessons to high school girls, for “free”. The age of consent in this state is 16.

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