“Hey! This Is Library”

Sometimes all it takes to humble an enemy, be it an army of soldiers or a squad of freaks, is a simple statement. The tanks at Tienanmen went on to do their jobs but somehow I doubt that malformations with megaphones are equally unstoppable.

The library incident may well become iconic. It is going viral because it illustrates civic courage — and the power of conviction behind it that is both intrinsic to the man’s character, and extrinsic as far as the confidence that comes with aligning oneself with civilization’s claim on public space. There is a wall between civilization and savagery, as well as between personal dignity and dissoluteness.

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202 thoughts on ““Hey! This Is Library”

  1. That guy’s got something of a traditional masculinity – albeit in beta, nerdy form, but I respect it.

  2. He managed to silence them, at least temporarily. He wasn’t overly angry or insulting, just authoritative and matter of fact. I think they didn’t know what to do. Sometimes righties engage these people too much, and give them the fight they are looking for. I am trying not to do that. It just gives them a common enemy in you. If they didn’t have that, they might not even like each other much.

  3. Many Koreans are good people. I was friends with a couple of KATUSA soldiers when stationed there. Having a high opinion of another nation or race doesn’t mean that we should be intermarrying, migrating to each others’ countries, getting sentimental about natural rivalries or animosities between each other, or deploying soldiers to the other’s country — but it does mean that there is a boundary between civilization and savagery (as well as between personal dignity and dissoluteness).

    The “Library” incident may well become iconic for this era. It is going viral because it illustrates civic courage — and the power of conviction behind it that is both intrinsic to the man’s character, and extrinsic as far as the confidence that comes with aligning oneself with civilization’s claim on public space.

    Someone over at Steve Sailer’s pointed out that he gets a pass on being “of color.” Someone else retorted that black-on-yellow violence happens, especially at schools. [UPDATE: I added parts of this comment to the original post.]

  4. Did you guys see the video of the crazy SJW who got removed from her flight? I am impressed with these no nonsense airline staffs.

  5. SJ, Esquire (formerly Samson J) wrote:
    “That guy’s got something of a traditional masculinity – albeit in beta, nerdy form, but I respect it.”

    ———————–

    Can’t you bring yourself to respecting these people so much that you do without seeing them as nerdy and beta?

    See, one of the reasons why in the last decades the right has gone under and stayed there culturally (and culture determines every other outcome) is because this “nerdy and beta” people, who are usually the more intelligent, have tended to be disproportionately leftists.

    I mean, when you get bullied in more or less tolerable ways from the beginning of primary school to high-school graduation (and maybe even in college), is it strange that you start to hate force and the strong of body?
    Meanwhile, girls, especially the girls you like most but all girls generically, don’t even look at you (who would love them SO MUCH) while they fall for the, uhu, very same people that bully you.

    In an intelligent, emotional mind prone to imagination creativity and handling words and ideas well, this starts big and only grows.

    That mind is gonna put all of his energy in building a world with a set of moral rules and guiding principles that look like philosophy and abstract ideas but are in fact revenge against the (perceived or real? This is not the point here) of “the world” (humans don’t like to know that their super-wide philosophical systems all stem from their personal standing in life, likes and dislikes).

    Then you get feminism, homoism, “diversity”, the fury against “white males”, and a lot of other trouble.

    Body shape and social dominance can be missing where a strong, independent personality is.
    Too often what is called “an alpha” in alt-right forums is just brainless bullies, more conformists than the other people if possible.

    In a certain way, you could read last 100 years’ history like the revenge of the “nerdy” and “beta” against the healthy, strong and attractive.
    I don’t think it’s been nice.

    Feeling valued could make these people work for their people and country instead than for dismantling them (you obviously want to dismantle what has rejected you, in reality or in your imagination).

    Yes, I am obviously one of them. Know why I like the alt-right? Because today they are the bullied ones.
    And, I think, a man who has dignity and experiences bullying must be empathic and always side with who is bullied.

    Who’s gonna being bullied in politics and social matters?
    The minority and those who don’t cope with the elite’s interests.
    Always.

    Suppose the right got a lot of power, most people’s support, … you’d see them take the same obnoxious characteristics that the left has today.

  6. What do you think would happen if “library man” was white instead of Asian?
    I think the only reason they shut up is because he was a “POC.”

  7. — What do you think would happen if “library man” was white instead of Asian?

    It depends. Several things gave the Korean guy an edge: he looked older than an average student, being foreign gives you a bit of a pass on “etiquette breaches” with regards to PC or other things. Being Asian probably gave him a bit of cover, but as noted, it doesn’t do much for protecting Asian kids in predominantly black schools.

    But what took the wind out of the protesters’ sails was his completely (as Lara alluded) independent frame. He wasn’t there to plead, or reason, or argue or debate or trade witty insults with them. The contempt on his face was palpable and it had a sting.

    I doubt they’d have gotten physical with a White man who made a similar rebuke. But a college-age White American would have been more likely to grant the protesters’ message and style a bit more legitimacy (due to his shared citizenship and PC indoctrination), so he’d be less likely to have approached them with such a solid frame.

  8. I hope BLM “Black Brunches” come back, where protestors storm into a restaurant at lunch and start chanting about “youths” killed by police. For some reason they just died out last spring, maybe Soros threatened to pull finding and BLM quietly asked people to stop them.

    Here’s a bunch of very awkward looking hipsters in Portland getting invaded by one black brunch

  9. As to those “Black Brunches,” I once wondered what I’d do if it happened on my watch. I told myself that if one of them had gotten too close to my wife or son, I’d have decked the protester, even if it were a female, going for a knockout. I’d have used a drinking glass or something else that’s heavy if it were a larger male. In my thoughts, I accepted any legal and financial consequence to such an action. No peace would have been worth my sitting there with a thumb up my ass in front of my family and on film.

  10. There are plenty of nerdy people on the right. The Alt Right is mostly made up of nerds. Being a nerd can be good since it often means being smart and having many interests. Those are good qualities. When people don’t like nerds, it is usually because they perceive them as acting superior because they are smarter.
    Also, bullies are rarely alpha males or even high betas males. They are often lower tier males and not very popular themselves. The most popular kids tend to ignore lower status kids. That’s not so bad. The older I get, the more I appreciate being ignored (except when I need something done).

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  12. It’s a sign of immaturity when all the boys like the same few girls. Settling for a less spectacular girl, who is a better match for you, is part of growing up.

  13. I doubt they’d have gotten physical with a White man who made a similar rebuke.

    I’m fairly certain they would have screeched him down if he was white.
    If you haven’t been on a college campus in the past 10 years, you have no idea how virulently, hysterically anti-white the climate has become.
    I recently attended my sister’s graduation ceremony and was treated to a sanctimonious black lives matter lecture, replete with finger wagging about white privilege.

  14. This video is a microcosm of what has happened to white men over the past 8 years. Watch to the end if you can stomach it.

  15. Old video, but white man gets bloodied in head at rally over immigration in California while Univision reporter asks him antagonistic questions. As soon as his black friend starts to defend him and discuss same points the reporter shuts up immediately:

  16. “There are plenty of nerdy people on the right. The Alt Right is mostly made up of nerds.”

    I’m not sure of that, though it sounds plausible to me. However, I’m more confident that among the white, christian born if not practicing men and fewer women who comprise the alt-right, i’m confident venturing that it is primarily a lower-middle-class aspiring class, with higher-than-normal segments of the college educated in its ranks. If you ascribe to even basic class theory and consciousness models and modes of behavior, such a hunch seems very likely. FWIW, I take that aggregate presumption of the alt-right as all but a given.

  17. — I’m fairly certain they would have screeched him down if he was white.

    You’re probably right. The tanks could have just run over the man at Tienanmen too though. The institutions of the US are filled with anti-Whites and that is something we have to do something about one way or another. We mostly just avoid those kinds of confrontations, which is how one goes about his life in a way that lets him stay sane.

    On the street when outnumbered, you have to (as Ryu puts it), not fall into their web but pull back and weave one of your own.

    At some point though, there has to be an push-back. Trump’s election, meme-wars and ridicule of SJWs is exactly that on a macro scale. On a personal level, you pick your battles. If you are at a library and feel highly compelled to make a stand, then the worst that can happen is lots of fat females shrieking at you and possibly social media exposure.

    The Korean man’s line was obviously crossed. You have your own lines. When one of them is crossed, you’ll not give much a fuck about the some of the possible consequences.

  18. That Trump supporter completely allowed himself to be played by that unbelievably obnoxious SJW. It seemed as if even some of her fellow protesters turned on her. I would always walk away from a hysterical woman, nothing to be gained from that interaction.

  19. @Midwit: as a matter of fact, I agree with you. I was going to post something in follow-up to my original comment, and then didn’t but now I will.

    I agree that it’s terrible, tragic, that our (my) reaction to this fellow is to characterize him the way that I did. I read a comment somewhere recently, I can’t remember where, but someone commented to the effect that, “Isn’t is telling about the state of things that men lacking tattoos and steroid use are considered effete?”

    In a saner world, the man in the video would be considered *normal*. He’d have a nice life with a good job and a reasonably pleasant wife.

  20. “There are plenty of nerdy people on the right. The Alt Right is mostly made up of nerds.”

    I’m not sure of that, though it sounds plausible to me. However, I’m more confident that among the white, christian born if not practicing men and fewer women who comprise the alt-right, i’m confident venturing that it is primarily a lower-middle-class aspiring class, with higher-than-normal segments of the college educated in its ranks. If you ascribe to even basic class theory and consciousness models and modes of behavior, such a hunch seems very likely. FWIW, I take that aggregate presumption of the alt-right as all but a given.

    Then the AR is fucked.

    There is nothing good about being a nerd.

    Being a nerd is bad. That is what being a nerd is.

  21. The AR does not skew rich or poor, in terms of class.

    You can take this to the bank. It is America — it’s the fucking Middle Class.

    Ninety percent of America has been the Middle Class, for most of the last hundred years, and ninety percent of the AR comes from there.

    The idea that the “new racism” that is the AR is the result of working class contact with the colored masses is a misconception straight out of the 90s — it is a dated misconception similar to how PA characterized Trump’s Inaugural references to the “inner city” and the poverty therein. When in fact black problems are no longer confined to the inner city. And just the same, the exposure to the problems that blacks have and bring with them, and browns and multiculturalism, are themselves not confined to the edges of working class neighborhoods.

    EVERYONE is fed up with the bullshit. The poz is at Harvard and Stanford, and everyone watches the same television and internet.

    The AR skews no which way in terms of class.

    It does skew young and smart, however.

    And that skew toward being young and smart might have some correlation with “nerdiness” but i would say that the AR filters out nerdiness.

    Nerdiness is un-socialized people, whereas what we are involved in is social.

  22. he idea that the “new racism” that is the AR is the result of working class contact with the colored masses is a misconception straight out of the 90s — it is a dated misconception

    180.

    He’s thinking about the daily stormer crowd. I’d recommend to nikcrit branching out on alt right. A few suggestions:

    TRS
    Radix podcast
    Weimerica podcast
    Red Ice radio
    MPC
    Stefan Molyneux

  23. Just a few years ago what is now termed alt-right consisted of a few dissident reactionary blogs, most of them focused on HBD. Now the alt-right is a sprawling, global network of dissident whites from all economic classes who get together to discuss pro white causes. The blogosphere is now just a small part where the ideological frameworks get hammered out. All the action is now on podcasts and YouTube channels. Twitter is for trolling. Btw.. I’ve been listening to millennial woes a lot lately, great channel… Spencer calls in quite a bit and takes questions from the audience which is great

  24. AltRight’s roots come from Christianity, then the American Old Right and Charles Lindbergh’s America First ethos, by way of the Birchers and then Pat Buchanan’s moral nationalism. This ideological current converged with Camille Paglia’s amoral sex realism, with its roots in pagan Classicism.

    My own proto-AltRight reading circa 2001-2003 consisted of neocon mainstream GOP journalism (which I read mostly for John Derbyshire’s columns) and hard-right or neonazi blogs such as Bill White’s. There was also VDare as an early anti-immigration forum and Jared Taylor’s “American Renaissance” for racial matters. Steve Sailer and the late Lawrence Auster were important. The witty and sophisticated Two Blowhards blog claimed our stake in art and high- as well as pop-culture. Then in 2007 came Heartiste and the Cambrian explosion of related and derivative blogs.

  25. Ok PA’s historiography is a bit more accurate lol

    But I still think a lot of the energy is currently in the podcast / YouTube format where discussions can take place in real time

  26. he idea that the “new racism” that is the AR is the result of working class contact with the colored masses is a misconception straight out of the 90s — it is a dated misconception

    I missed the NPI Meetup in Detroit, but upon reflection on the experience, Spencer accurately surmised “people in Detroit have been red pilled by life.”

  27. @elk, you did take note that it was not me who made the assertion claiming that the alt-right is nerdy, right?

    I believe its aggregate bent is to the lower-middle-class, but with higher-than-normal college-educated cohort to go with that hunch. If i’m right, that would explain SWPL middle-to-upper-middle low-stakes liberalism; i.e., they’re beliefs being detached from their day-to-day flesh-n-blood encounters and experiences, etc.

  28. re. that BLM chant in the hipster cafe; that white hipster nerd-chick in the bottom-right portion of the screen that you see upthread when the post is refreshed and at its start is absolutlely priceless.

    The look alone is perfect; but then there’s that captivated shock-stare into the camera that puts it over the top..

  29. re. that BLM chant in the hipster cafe; that white hipster nerd-chick in the bottom-right portion of the screen that you see upthread when the post is refreshed and at its start is absolutlely priceless.

    I’m sure you found such cloying types to be quite inviting back in Madison. 🙂

  30. “…the AR is fucked.”

    Who knows what this curious lighter fluid will grow into. The AR is the salt on the margarita rim, the glory-suited spotter while maxing on incline. It’s an invigorating nudge; the bulk of the blaze up to truly stouthearted affiliates in daily life.

  31. I just did something quite counterintuitive and watched the first 10 mins of PBS Newshour (I didn’t stick around to hear Chucky Schumer talk about “our values”). Got to see Ford’s CEO under an umbrella singing Trump’s praises and Ford’s commitment to bringing jobs to America. Federal hiring freeze. Syrian peace talks in Kazhakstan, brokered by Russia, Iran, and Turkey (no breakthroughs yet, but I’m cheered to see two legs of the anti-globalist resistance featured.

    It’s childish, but I think I’m going to luxuriate in certain mainstream media for a bit. It’s like my fetish for Olive Garden: my mom’s the only person who ever wants to go there and I’ve always resisted it, yet whenever the opportunity arrives I find myself perversely trying to drag people off there because it’s so mediocre and I have no expectations, somehow it makes me love it.

    Just the fact that Donald Trump is THE NEW NORMAL in THE CURRENT YEAR– oh dear Lord, am I dreaming? What are these pillows beneath my feet?

  32. Sailer has been covering this, have we discussed it here yet? I’ve watched it several times and I’m pretty sure it’s real. I even turned turn off sound just to watch faces of those involved.

    Real or fake?

  33. ^^^ I watched some. A confused fille de joie failed to decide between protest, improv and fringe porn. She couldn’t get past that stalemate, but found some giveaway Sutter Home – and purportedly an audience willing to study her clownish indecision.

    A verbose stasis, and so neither fake or real.

  34. A black acquaintance about 20 years ago moved out to Portland. I remember asking him, when he announced at a party his intention to do this, “Portland, rather homogenous” and being pleased with the subtlety of how i referenced the racial aspect of his plan; and everyone got the joke.

    But as far as i know he is still there, so the odds are that he was in that cafe and givin em the business.

    The white dupes in that video, raising their arms in solidarity. What a bunch of spineless people. Talk about not owning their space and their intentions.

    Clearly that sort of protest theatre is about intimidation and dominating the public space. And the protestors themselves would acknowledge as such; but do the white hipsters, acknowledge that they are getting owned?

    That same black acquaintance was from the Mid South and a very agreeable sort. The last i heard of him was on facebook, when that racial grievance meme was making the rounds about how George Washington was removing the teeth of his slaves to sell them.

    Apparently some history was uncovered, and the story was transmuted to be that he would capture his slaves in the night and tie them and torture and remove their perfectly good teeth.

    But without looking into it, without a doubt to the extent that something of the sort happened, it was a consensual transaction that made use of the most humane techniques available.

    And that facebook episode is another example of how, were it to come up NOW — it could be mocked, but back then everyone was like omg! i can’t believe it.

  35. A confused fille de joie failed to decide between protest, improv and fringe porn.

    Yeah, she was definitely “performing” some sort of pre-envisioned, cathartic spiel that she had in mind.

  36. — Just the fact that Donald Trump is THE NEW NORMAL in THE CURRENT YEAR– oh dear Lord, am I dreaming? What are these pillows beneath my feet? (Lucius Somesuch)

    Libraries, mid-market chain restaurants, television: making public space ours again!

    As to BLMers interrupting your brunch, it’s not imprudent to improvise a weapon, purely for purposes of last resort self defense, of course: discretely pour Tabasco sauce into your glass of water. Absent that, or for a cleaner approach, dump the entirety of your salt shaker into the glass. Squeeze the lemon or lime in too. Stir, have at ready to splash the face of anyone who gives you reasonable cause to fear for your own or another’s safety. The attacker will instinctively rub his eyes when doused…

  37. “…George Washington was removing the teeth of his slaves to sell them.”

    His old stomping ground in NY’s Heights area is incredible. Just like overtraining is counterproductive physically, it made me suspect that tech innovation is making us regress in important ways. I’d say kind of sweet spot was hit the 100 years or so after the printing press was semi-democratized. Life had not only more beauty before machinery was our literal terra firma, but an intrepid majesty. I can’t endorse touring of that strange mansion enough.

  38. Squeeze the lemon or lime in too. Stir, have at ready to splash the face of anyone who gives you reasonable cause to fear for your own or another’s safety.

    Very Bond.

    My response would be to walk out. There are no comparable hipster cafes around here to begin with though.

    There was a BLM protest at the Mall, which i happened to witness. They were chanting their stock-in-trade, “Black Lives Matter!” in 4/4 and i shouted back a well syncopated STFU. It could have led to some trouble but did not.

  39. When splashing, be out of the attacker’s arm reach so he doesn’t block your swing. Yes, walking away is the most responsible thing, no sarcasm. Deescalation is a habit that I’m actively working on practicing.

    I saw a BLM march about two years ago in DC, two streets east of the White House. They were chanting something catchy. Police cars were escorting the procession. The sight inspired my “Welcome To Hell, Stray Lambs” post, one of my all time most popular ones.

  40. Deescalation is a habit that I’m actively working on practicing.

    You know the lemon thing is assault with a weapon in the eyes of prosecution, right? You might as well pick up a chair and swing it, you’re getting the same higher intensity of prosecution the moment you use even so much as a toothpick.

  41. Yeah. In Asia

    Well, obviously.

    The blogosphere is now just a small part where the ideological frameworks get hammered out. All the action is now on podcasts and YouTube channels

    That’s interesting, because I literally don’t listen to, or even know of, any alt-Right podcasts or youtube videos. I sometimes ask myself what my role is supposed to be in all of this…

    I’d say kind of sweet spot was hit the 100 years or so after the printing press was semi-democratized.

    My wife and I once went for a bike ride and stumbled across a random junkyard full of old nautical equipment from the 50s. It struck me that technology was at its most “fun” in the pre-computer, pre-microscopic age, when you could still look at a piece of work with your naked eye and puzzle out how it worked.‎

  42. That’s interesting, because I literally don’t listen to, or even know of, any alt-Right podcasts or youtube videos. I sometimes ask myself what my role is supposed to be in all of this…

    The Right Stuff has a much anticipated podcast up this very morning.

    That podcast, up this morning, is the Beating Heart of the Alt Right. I don’t mean to get all gay here, so apologies.

    Like i said the other day, the AR is about content primarily, and politics second.

    ***************

    In the sense that politics is downstream from culture. What we We are in need of is a cohesive culture from which we get a strong identity, with which we define ourselves and our boundaries (which would protect infants’ intact genitals), and with which we expel those who do not belong.

    Those things are not (entirely) the responsibility of The Daily Shoah #124 — but they are the need that TDS is responding to.

  43. The Root: Why did you decide to create the sign “White Women Voted for Trump”?

    Angela Peoples: We need to be really honest about why we’re here. There was a sense for me of being at the march and in community with folks that were wanting to resist this horrifying reality, but also not wanting folks to get complacent.

    What specific and real damages does Angela Peoples claim?

    What specific and real damages can she show?

  44. The question of what specific and real damages can she show, is worth considering.

    What might Angela Peoples say to that?

    Unless someone can show any evidence of REAL DAMAGES, then she has no cause for complaint.

  45. What specific and real damages does Angela Peoples claim?

    I’m sure she could pull her reparations list right out of her pocket and speak to that quite easily.

  46. Cam,
    I don’t get why you say ‘this is fantastic news?’ because they’re being nitwits in public? Because it supposedly shows a fracture between bf’s and wf’s?

    btw, is that really true? That wf’s voted for Trump over HRC by 3%; if so, that surprises me…. HRC was a really flawed candidate; she was 2000-teens what Teddy Kennedy was to the ’90s: a tired, ragged, spent democratic icon, who was pushed to the fore more out of obligation than inspiration. She gained the scent and title of ‘loser’ in 2008 and the stench fermented for eight years, was canned and contained during the campaign —- but busted open and made pungent mess on election night, all in creating the biggest electoral failure in decades, defying polls, odds and pundits.

  47. elk: “George Washington was removing the teeth of his slaves to sell them. “

    Did that reflect Washington’s perfect virtue and character that you were declaring he possessed the other day? lol…

  48. That woman is trying to get liberal white women to condemn and alienate conservative white women. She shouldn’t worry, they are already doing that. It’s basically been done to me.

  49. There isn’t a doubt in my mind the liberal women in my life would side with a black woman over me. Maybe if I were egregiously wronged, they would side with me, but I can’t be sure. Then they wonder why conservatives don’t trust them.

  50. Did that reflect Washington’s perfect virtue and character that you were declaring he possessed the other day? lol…

    Is this one of the Wayan Brothers, jimminy christmas.

    Do the words “consensual transaction” ring a bell, or did you forget to check the dictionary?

  51. elk: “George Washington was removing the teeth of his slaves to sell them. “

    Did that reflect Washington’s perfect virtue and character that you were declaring he possessed the other day? lol…

    Let’s get beyond the bantz.

    Nikcrit, do you believe the racial grievance mongering version of the story, that was behind that meme?

  52. I just did some cursory reading on the selling of teeth in the 18th century. It was common practice in Europe. Poor people usually sold their dead relatives’ teeth but sometimes younger people did too, especially if they had an illness from which they didn’t expect to recover.

  53. Not everyone is a abusive whoremongering and plagiarizing no account liar, like the best that the black American community could come up with.

    The fact that MLK is the black figurehead versus Washington, is too much for blacks to admit, and so they have to pretend that white people have the same piece of shit values that they do.

    We don’t. Your values are different than ours. As our your heroes. Black people admire MLK because he abused whores.

    White people admire Washington because he was a great man who always told the truth.

    Black people cannot acknowledge that because it reflects the fundamental differences between the Races.

    A virtuous and aspiring hero, versus someone not much better than an animal.

  54. And then Trickin missing the original point entirely, and to buy into the fake news history that the race grievance advocates pushed on facebook — proves the point that the blacks just can’t get with white values.

    Blacks including nikcrit cannot grasp the values that White people admire.

    And now he will come back hem and haw and say how he was being ironic. Bullshit.

    Trickin, it is yet another example of how the races are different. Their fundamental differences are reflected clearly in their values and their heroes. And nikcrit reflects those exact differences — as did my facebook acquaintance — by not grasping the moral of the story.

    So thanks again, nikcrit, for demonstrating by your presence how you just don’t get White people, and how our values are opposed, and how we cannot live together.

  55. elk, i was kidding about teeth-vs-virtue thing; don’t know what you mean re. grievance-mongering…where? within the teen story? what meme? sorry, don’t mean to be dense, but i’m sure what you’re referring to……. overall, i’m not upset or opinionated on anything discussed tonight so far….. i will say that i try not to get too deterministic in my interpretations of these matters; i.e., the sjw flipping out at the coffeeshop, or the girls reppin’ at the d.c. mall, etc…… people are very capable of being very contradictory in their opinions and actions hour-to-hour—– in fact, without an ounce of disparagement, i would say that you are very much in that mercurial kind of character….. it’s part of your inquisitiveness to make your being vulnerable and transgressive in the moment; but such a record of public action can always come back to bite one if they get too declaratively burnished while in the act of interpreting their momentary ‘foot-loose-and-fancy-free’ actions…… you know what i’m saying, my fellow knucklehead, eh?

  56. “What specific and real damages does Angela Peoples claim?”

    I’m sure she could pull her reparations list right out of her pocket and speak to that quite easily.

    Are there real damages, then?

    Because if there are, then she has a point.

  57. elk, i just now saw your last comment. I LITERALLY don’t know what you’re referring to.

    re. the teeth and PA’s checking into it: what was the value in after-market teeth? What were they used for? some kind of crude form of partials or dentures?

  58. overall, i’m not upset or opinionated on anything discussed tonight so far…..

    Well that’s good and to your credit. / no sarc

    And i don’t mean to over-reach in my frustration and disparagement into insulting other people.

    I don’t think i have done that. So until next time?

  59. elk: “The fact that MLK is the black figurehead versus Washington, is too much for blacks to admit, and so they have to pretend that white people have the same piece of shit values that they do.

    We don’t. Your values are different than ours. As our your heroes. Black people admire MLK because he abused whores.”

    Why do you occasionally go off on the pompous jack-ass tangents; your sophomoric tirade sounds like the inverse of some middle-school MLK-day tribute that concludes by chastising modern-day raycism…… Never mind that i didn’t even think about what you presumed i’m declaring..

    by the way: back when you fucked those Somalian immigrants a few years ago, and chalked it up to sexual-market-parlay gain-and-sum, did you ask those girls their feelings and convictions about MLK-vs-George Washington?

    Just wondering…

  60. “It struck me that technology was at its most “fun” in the pre-computer, pre-microscopic age, when you could still look at a piece of work with your naked eye and puzzle out how it worked.”

    Cookware from that era seems to have reaches a kind of apex in which the progress was redundant and thus useless; that’s a sign that some new meta-technology is due..

    To wit: a 1950s-made spatula in which the handle consists of pliable coiled metal and has a compressed handle in which someone can press the handle to make the spatula end flip the burger or whatever food being managed, rather than doing it the old-fashioned way and going through the inconvenience of flipping one’s wrist to cook your meat on its other side.

    Mid-20th-century progress, American style.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=spatula+with+a+flip+handle&espv=2&biw=1024&bih=700&tbm=isch&imgil=Oufp8YclO25uXM%253A%253BFpZRb1_FexliJM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.maxiaids.com%25252Fez-flip-spatula&source=iu&pf=m&fir=Oufp8YclO25uXM%253A%252CFpZRb1_FexliJM%252C_&usg=__Qzqo1XxNd0mj6O5l5dYdX1KfBAk%3D&ved=0ahUKEwibrumcm9zRAhUHVxQKHfFaDiQQyjcIogE&ei=fgiIWJv3FoeuUfG1uaAC#imgrc=Oufp8YclO25uXM%3A

  61. When Napoleon was charged by the French Directorate to disperse the crowd, he did so without hesitation, without guilt, aiming and firing “a whiff of grapeshot” at the mob.

    It worked, and later he rose to become L’Empereur on the basis of his firmness with society.

    It should always be rememebred that the mob is not the people, although they always try and lay claim to that mantle.

    The people are in general what Michael Savage, San Fran radio shock jock, calls “the Sheeples.” They follow, they are lead, they work and they TV-anestheize without hesitation. One can easily imagine them slipping into Matrix-style virtual reality pods in some date in the near future, the lids closing over them and dreaming their lives away.

    — Sorserigod

    [blog url redacted — PA]

    P.S. how many citizens would choose to resist the siren-song of VR if it was really great? I would … would YOU?

  62. We don’t. Your values are different than ours. As our your heroes.

    Values, personality traits and behavior flow from underlying genetics.

  63. Yes, I am letting it slide if there is no weirdness or drama, for now. I haven’t clicked on his website and I won’t.

    PS: SG, please don’t leave gratuitous links to your blog in the comments. It suffices that your handle is linked to it. I deleted it above.

  64. So thanks again, nikcrit, for demonstrating by your presence how you just don’t get White people, and how our values are opposed, and how we cannot live together.

    The two of you could easily be kin folk. You seem to be a lot alike, actually.

  65. Princess Sorcery back as faux Luddite. Sorcery’s surmised where she’s undoubtedly headed. Even France’s Ultimate Democrat would take a break from wrecking house to pop a “grapeshot” fire-for-effect to celebrate the boisterous capture!

  66. “You seem to be a lot alike, actually.”

    Cam, i’m in a good mood so I’ll let that above insult pass.

    You’d be in a good mood too if, mere moments ago, your hometown unranked Marquette University Eagles (nee Warriors) just defeated the no. 1-ranked Villanova Wildcats, who entered the game at 19-1.

    (elk: just kiddin’; hava drink for me, as i have to be up at 6 tomorrow and can’t celebrate)

  67. You’d be in a good mood too if, mere moments ago, your hometown unranked Marquette University Eagles (nee Warriors) just defeated the no. 1-ranked Villanova Wildcats, who entered the game at 19-1.

    I saw that. They just beat Creighton, too. Barring a total collapse from them that should be an NCAA tourney worthy resume.

  68. “Core trait of all that is human: seeking for reality. *Where* reality is sought and found establishes all differences between people.” -O. Weininger

  69. Black people are able recognize and appreciate good character, just like anyone else. The fact that they are reluctant to criticize their leaders might have more to do with defensiveness of their own race. If MLK Jr.Abused black women, there are probably some black women out there who really dislike him.

  70. Black people are able recognize and appreciate good character, just like anyone else.

    Outside of the talented tenth and/or those over 100 IQ, I don’t think that blacks look at “character” in a way that’s comparable to white people at all, because that requires objectivity.

    A lot of white people are still marveling at how 85% of blacks “believe” that OJ didn’t commit those murders. Whites just keep saying – “look at the evidence, don’t you think it shows guilt?”

    Blacks just don’t look at much of anything truly objectively like that, white people are absolutely wasting their time bashing their heads against a wall wondering why blacks won’t make a truthful, sincere evaluation of “the evidence”. The attitude of blacks is that they don’t want to see another brother go to jail, therefore OJ isn’t guilty. Period, stop, end of story. But judging in a truly abstract and honest fashion according to objective laws can never resonate with them in the same way, as very few have an ability to separate out the emotion of the end goal they want.

    And why do blacks always press for more lenience in the justice system, in almost every case? Because they see their own brothers/cousins/fathers in the shoes of those getting locked up and they don’t see “character” in the way that whites do – a hard, stratifying line between two groups of people – the criminals/law abiding or between morally upright/depraved.

    In the evolutionary sense, blacks just never had many social systems in place that could root out the genes of those who had trouble following rules in complex societies, while Europeans benefitted from highly harsh and draconian physical punishments for sentences. The net result is that in the highly organized societies of Europe if you couldn’t follow rules and stay out of trouble you didn’t live to reproductive age.

  71. Black solipsism is almost endearing in how they don’t allow for the possibility that everybody doesn’t already agree with them. For some reason this sticks out in my memory: when I was 21 or so in a convenience store line, a much older black guy chats me up about football and I told him that I like the Redskins (I was a huge fan then and this was in the DC area). In response, he took on a conspiratorial tone of voice, explaining to me why he’s not a fan anymore because of something involving alleged unfair treatment of Doug Williams.

    Idle conspiracy speculation: was Superbowl XXII fixed? No detraction from the winning team and the QB intended if not, so take this with a grain of salt. But: 27-year-old John Elway, who had a brilliant season and a great future, got off to a fantastic start on that first-drive TD. Then Doug Williams, a 33-year-old career backup quarterback, broke NFL touchdown records in second quarter, putting the game away.

  72. Idle conspiracy speculation: was Superbowl XXII fixed? No detraction from the winning team and the QB intended if not, so take this with a grain of salt. But: 27-year-old John Elway, who had a brilliant season (and a great future)

    Nah, I doubt it. That particular result was very representative of the lopsided results seen in the Super Bowl for a 15-year stretch.

    Back in the 80’s-90’s the rich powerhouse teams of the NFC (Cowboys, 49ers, Giants, Redskins) were simply run about 10 times better than the teams in the AFC (Raiders, Bills, Broncos, etc.) which was almost like a junior league of pop warner that would get to the Super Bowl and get bashed by grown men. Those powerhouse NFC teams had better techniques, better player evaluation, better schemes, advanced preparation, deeper financial resources – and that was partly because they rode quick advances that hadn’t spread to the rest of the league but soon did.

    The AFC teams caught up eventually with better scouting, better methods and more physical play and Elway eventually won 2 Super Bowls. The NFL’s new revenue sharing arrangement also makes things very equitable as well, the deep-pockets teams (Cowboys, Giants, 49ers) don’t have a huge inherent operational advantage any more.

  73. But: 27-year-old John Elway, who had a brilliant season and a great future, got off to a fantastic start on that first-drive TD. Then Doug Williams, a 33-year-old career backup quarterback, broke NFL touchdown records in second quarter, putting the game away.

    Also, back in those days the NFL ran the ball much, much more. Your quarterback wasn’t as crucial to the outcome of the game.

    In today’s NFL it’s almost entirely a passing game – teams like New England are passing on 75% of the plays. Thus, in order to win the Super Bowl you must have a top-tier QB performer like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers (with stunning accuracy) – a journeyman/middling quarterback like Doug Williams with modest passing stats isn’t going to win you the Super Bowl any more in the modern NFL.

  74. Lots of both whites and darx wrangling up a half-suitable loot from the league should be concentrating purely on their speed. Percy Harvin for example, embarrassingly prone to injuries, could have kept the U.S. on top in the 100/200m if so inclined. I often work out with someone who started for a couple teams before kicking him to the curb for skipping team meetings. He sells cars now, and regrets ever playing. There’s nothing like sprints. The real resistance training for the soul.

    Looks like the Jamaicans have been doping all along. No surprise here:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-bolt-medal-idUSKBN1591RH

  75. — There’s nothing like sprints.

    In my high school track days, speed workouts such as 10×100 and 5×200, followed by 1×400 were my drug of choice. Hill workouts for breaking through to the other side.

  76. “Hill workouts for breaking through to the other side.”

    Hills are unbeatable. Definitely the only prescription drug, and the pill is red.

  77. The problem of performance enhancing drugs in elite sport could be solved by allowing for them and then having two brackets for competition: one with and one without.

    Is it the case though, that now some of those “drugs” are not drugs in the sense of being synthetic as opposed to artificial. That distinction between what is natural and what is not, would then be the point of contention. Strong man eat many big tiger penis!

  78. There was this guy in hs who was an insane striver who would run workouts on a neighborhood hill. And backwards too.

    He was rejected by Dartmouth, and but then enrolled in some pricey East Coast prep school that had a special program for Ivy League rejects: a second senior year with which to remedy their application.

    This guy was a type that you might not recognize, but it has a name: a Swedish Jew. There are these guys in the deep Nordic Midwest who have a bizarre combination of Aryan and semitic features. For instance deep and straight blond hair but a monster schnoz and fragile build, as in the case of my classmate.

  79. He was the rich kid, straight out of John Hughes High School. I actually went to John Hughes High School.

    That guy’s best pal was another Swedish jew but cyptish, more whiter but still something uncanny valley. His family business was in restaurants and he was the drug dealer to the high status set.

  80. I don’t mean to imply that running hills equates with being an insane striver. (It did however in his case.)

    I coulda done with running more hills. Or track for that matter.

  81. I was a great athlete in high school

    This was on a t-shirt for sale in the gimmick souvenir shops around campus at the Big 10 school i was at in the 90s.

    So by extension, young bucks had been proselytizing this claim for the last ten years and since forever, by the time they got around to ironicizing it on a tee shirt in the souvenir shop.

    It was a popular tee. There was a great tension between the incipient hipsters on the one hand, and on the other, the chips, the jocks.

    The hipsters wanted to get that shot in, and they did, but who gets the last laugh?

    And sure enough, on my freshman Floor, there were any number of great athletes from high school.

    And if only i were exaggerating. Literally two or three or the twenty or so guys I pal’d with, were “great athletes in high school — best in their class.” / yeah i am status-signaling there, i was sorta Ferris B but without the girlfriend

  82. In the 70s your therapist needed to know what your childhood was about.

    In the 90s the relevant question, was How did you rate? (in high school) (h/t Sailer)

    And in the 2010’s? …

    It’s gotta have to do with your online persona and its distortion.

  83. The intra-mural competition, at the Big 10 school i was at in the 90s, was insane. The usual suspects, the Big Three, football basketball and softball.

    All these “great athletes in high school” and not yet beat down by life, bringing their A-game to the dorm room playfields.

    One of the guys on my freshman Floor was a local Indian, 5 11 and could easily dunk. Also he would throw one of those plus-size rubber (“super”) balls from one end of the dorm room corridor all the down to the other, maybe 60 or 70 feet, and consistently hit the Exit fire sign which was posted two inches below the top of the wall.

    In other words he was throwing that thing 80 mph, and it is lucky that no one was killed.

    Some of those local Indians have insane torque and very well balanced proportions. For instance that guy was not muscular but was generating lethal torque.

    He was badly acne scarred but otherwise handsome. The odd Indian out, but seemed not to mind. He (presumably) had his people back on the Rez to go to. In contrast to everyone else there, who had what to go back to, on summer break and anytime ever after?

    Yeah i know You can never go home …

  84. O.T.@et AL,

    True sign that the times they are-A-changing: A new Law&Order SVU episode had the defense lawyer using the term “social justice warrior” in a derogatory, rape-defendant sympathetic way! Furthermore, the self righteous prosecution is depicted as overzealous, pompous and vindictive! WTF is up with that? Lol…

  85. Coda:
    SVU winds up taking us back to reality. In the middle of a witness testifying for his exoneration, the perp has a sudden urge to confess and apologizes aloud to the ndant before judge, jury and assembled for-and-against spectators.

    In the end, the lingering P.C. Predicate prevails!!!

  86. Richard Spencer talks about lessons-learned of his assault by Antifa and the rapid evolution of Left street violence. Man’s got a pair, plus good analysis.

  87. Not sure why Spencer would ever stand there with no one on lookout keeping randoms from approaching him. His face has been out there way too much.

  88. He admits that he’s been naive and has learned a lesson. His experience has been prior run-ins with Antifas, when all they did is scream and spray foam. He’s wisened up, rightly points out that a sucker punch can kill someone.

  89. Not sure. Wesearchr has raised several thousand dollars reward money. There are pics of a middle aged man that appear to match against a man with a known identity who had those pics of himself submitting to degrading sxual acts. I haven’t followed it closely enough to understand if there is any criminal investigation. Spencer can certainly bring on a civil suit once the individual is identified.

  90. sucker punching is such total scumbaggery…in my milieu, it’s usually low-class girls who do it; almost every fight i have to break up and report and assess starts with a sucker punch, and two-thirds of them, easy, involve girl-on-girl situations….. lot of people don’t realize that, but 70% of reportable fights in schools are girl-on-girl; they prevail in both K-8 and high-school settings.

  91. “he almost won an Amanda Kijera award himself”

    Harsh… but true. He’s gotten a lot of heat from some quarters for, as they put it, being an amateur thinking he’s playing 5D chess with the media. I cant argue with that.

    Having both won and lost fights (for an overall win record), I know that getting beaten up is a humiliating experience. Especially if someone got a cheap shot off on you. In Spencer’s case this being on film and so publicized, the sting must be enormous. But he’s plowing ahead, apparently smarter about the seriousness of Left’s hate and the target he presents to them just by his look and reputation. I’m curious about his next moves. He’s a dedicated, relentless guy whose wisdom is catching up with his intelligence.

  92. “sucker punching is such total scumbaggery”

    I’ve never known actual antifas, but I’ve known a number of types who’s fit right in among them. Maybe it’s a caricature of low-level anarchists/ leftists universally… they don’t think in terms of an honor code like you and I would.

  93. “It’s like my fetish for Olive Garden…..I find myself perversely trying to drag people off there because it’s so mediocre and I have no expectations, somehow it makes me love it.”

    C’mon Lucius, just admit it: you’re a sucker for that ‘Endless Pasta” promotion!

  94. Harsh… but true. He’s gotten a lot of heat from some quarters for, as they put it, being an amateur thinking he’s playing 5D chess with the media.

    Spencer lives in Montana now, I guess. But someone who grew up in Dallas and went to school on the East Coast should know better, I cannot understand what is going through his head but he seems a little to preoccupied with self admiration. He needs to wake up.

    Having both won and lost fights (for an overall win record),

    I never would’ve guessed that, PA. 🙂 🙂

    just admit it: you’re a sucker for that ‘Endless Pasta” promotion!

    The salty butter/cheese sauce for those breadsticks is good but I shudder to think of the calories per tablespoon.

    Anyone remember the SJW beaten in Berkeley? LOL

  95. “This guy was a type that you might not recognize, but it has a name: a Swedish Jew. There are these guys in the deep Nordic Midwest who have a bizarre combination of Aryan and semitic features. For instance deep and straight blond hair but a monster schnoz and fragile build, as in the case of my classmate.”

    elk and I have a lot of common Upper-Midwest observations and heritage, IMO, but we’re quite different personalities as well.

    As for his Nordic-mensch claims, I agreee and in fact have some maternal relatives that fit the bill; some of ’em look like this:

    http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/jack-sikma-of-the-seattle-supersonics-looks-on-against-the-washington-picture-id482821928?s=594×594

    (Midwesterners rule, dudes! Our seeming naivete is just a ruse to be left alone.)

  96. elk and I have a lot of common Upper-Midwest observations and heritage, IMO, but we’re quite different personalities as well.

    No one here has seen you both in the same place as of yet.

  97. I was once accused of creating Elk as my sockpuppet here.

    For the record, the only sockpuppet I’ve ever done was Promoting Justice over at GLP, and that was with Chuck’s permission.

  98. “…..getting beaten up is a humiliating experience. Especially if someone got a cheap shot off on you. In Spencer’s case this being on film and so publicized, the sting must be enormous.”

    Not at all, IMO! The perp is the one who comes off as cowardly and spineless; he hits Spencer and then immediately runs off in a purely punk-ass, won’t-own-it way; meanwhile, Spencer, casually walks away from the chaotic and sudden and uninvited harm —- no yelling or even evident emotion….. The guy was f-in’ attacked! There’s no shame to be had in the overall circumstance; i think the sucker punch takes away the humiliation factor; it’d be much worse if Spencer provoked confrontation and then lost the physical encounter once he summoned it through whatever form of derring-do.

    But as is, he was valiant in his response and its composure.

  99. There’s nothing wrong with “japping” someone with a sucker punch.

    The American police and military does this on a daily basis. Most of their strategy is based upon total surprise. There is no “honor” or “dignity” about it. They fight when they have the surprise, and when they have the total advantage.

    The problem, is in WNs allowing this to be done to them.

    It “should” be expected by now. There are no rules in this game. The jews and minos hold all the cards. WNs “should” be willing to do whatever necessary to win, as they are.

  100. What happened to Spencer is a common experience for whites, especially in nigger areas.

    Just the other day, this one occured, same thing.

    I do not understand these white who don’t want revenge. There should be curbstomping on a daily basis. These coons need to understand what happens to people who screw with the white race.

  101. I agree with Nikcrit. Spencer was not beaten up, he was sucker punched by someone who then ran off. He did not look bad at all. He’s probably angry about it, but maybe should move on (I think he has). There’s nothing to be gained in letting some loser dominate your thoughts and emotions.
    A lot of lefties are lashing out now. I am taking a policy of avoidance. I just don’t feel like dealing with them now. There is nothing to be gained.

  102. Physical defeat is humiliating outside of a rules/honor context like sports or a clean fight where you later shake hands. Pop culture promotes the image of the defiant martyr being tortured but reality is closer to how victims were depicted in The Sopranos: like a worm on a hook. There is a reason why survivors of Gestapo interrogation never wanted to talk about the experience and committed suicide years later.

    Same with being sucker punched. It’s basically getting punked. You fault yourself for a number of things you did to have allowed that, giving the enemy cheap satisfaction. Spencer’s immediate reaction was as dignified as could be.

    A saving grace in that incident was the ineptitude of the punch. Understandable, given that he hit him while running but it was basically forearm sideswipe against a still target. He could have landed the punch square on the nose and that would have made things very different.

    As to Lefties lashing out… sad!  There is a local rock station with a snarky morning DJ & sidekicks. I’ll momentarily listen before changing stations. The usual, Jonathan Liebowitz-style condescending running of the mouth by someone who evidently had never gotten punched.

    It’s an obsolete agitprop model though. Which is why AltRight memes have run circles around the narrative. The gamma point-and-chortle isn’t as effective as it was in the past. Many normal people are are beginning to understand that when they hear a liberal with a platform ridicule a right wing figure, the laugh’s on them too.

    Watch a family sitcom with the volume off for a minute. You might notice the preternaturally imbecilic expressions on every actor’s face (except on the sassy daughter).

    Showbiz ridicule is like an artillery piece firing with impunity, until our side breached its local security and rendered it ineffective.

  103. It did not look like a hard punch, which is probably why Spencer did not seem particularly upset. He should have bodyguards anytime he goes to a city from here on out.

  104. He got hit twice, the second time in a melee in front of cops who did nothing. I don’t know if the second punch is on video. In the video I posted above you can see a shiner (not a bad one) under his left eye.

  105. The emphasis on “honor” and “justice” is why WN and “Conservatives”:have been impotent for so long, even until today.

    Even here, the discussion is about how bad it is to sucker punch, and oh, it wasn’t a hard punch and Spencer looks OK!

    Where are the nationalists who want revenge?

    The message has been sent that it is OK to attack a white man if you are an antifa. If they hit one of ours, we should hit one of theirs, twice as hard.

    Once, the Aryan Brotherhood put a bounty on two niggers who attacked a white vet. Those poor boys had to run to the police for protection. That’s why the AB is respected (and feared), while WN is not.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/22/aryan-brotherhood-bounty-judge-wwii-vet_n_4326288.html

  106. Everything is a potential addiction. Sculpt your regimens like they’re the original Perseus and Medusa. Don’t fall into the global chat room’s frame. The real revenge.

  107. A commenter at VP writes:

    Women are PC because of (1) peer pressure and (2) virtue signaling. You fight peer pressure by unplugging from the media.

    Virtue signaling is something else. It’s the female version of men acting tough — showing you’re valuable to the tribe. Everyone knows this instinctively: You’ll never embarrass a woman by showing she’s weak, no matter how much feminist brainwashing she’s received. But point out she’s evil and you’ll cut deep.

    Don’t treat them like they’re good but misguided people. That just reinforces their behavior. Don’t let them think they’re getting some kind of status or good reputation from PC platitudes. Treat them like the traitors they are. Tell them outright that what’s happening is their fault. Because it is.

    This is very helpful. If you’re inclined to convert a woman from liberalism, don’t tell her that she’s misguided, tell her that she’s a terrible person.

  108. “You fight peer pressure by unplugging from the media.”

    Shia LaBeouf types could learn from this too. An attempt to make liberalism manly from the roost of the most glossy of bird cages. Such action is only valid to them if absorbed by hoards of iphones and gossip columns. Peace isn’t meant for the weak and sickly. I can see why you fellows sneer at my generation.

    The consummate gadget-veined monoculture screams “He will not divide us!” They’re right. They’ll congeal into a single low-grade e-movie that Never Was. I almost suspect LaBeouf of trying to grease the wheels of the AR in what would be among the greatest performance art ploys to date. But highly unlikely!

  109. If she is going for Sexy points with her shooting stance, it’s a win.

    She looks like the cover of a Piers Anthony novel from the 80s.

    Allow me to assist, dear lady. Your hips need to be aligning over your feet thusly …

  110. I am still in the position of defending my character. They believe a good person would never vote for Trump. It is beyond their comprehension that someone can be a good person and also support Trump.

  111. Shia LaBeouf was born to be a parody.

    His last name is LaBeouf. We call him The Buf. That’s his name, that’s what we call him. No, we didn’t make it up, that’s his name.

    Those chants are jewish ceremony. I am not up on jew-ology enough to know their origins and usage, but apparently they have some utility.

    But their use in that there incarnation was miscalculated. I was going to say that he looks like a fool, but that is not fair to fools. He looks like a schizo. And not one of the good ones. Mentally ill and deranged and on the street muttering to himself. All day long and can be found in the same place.

  112. I don’t get political on Facebook and don’t particularly like it when other conservatives do (even though most are very classy about it). I want Facebook to turn into a lefty echo chamber.

  113. 6 days since Spencer was attacked, no positive ID. Ether the attacker was very good at his cover or no one wants to pursue the case. Spencer might as well wear a wolf’s head now.

    It’s a bad start to the new political era. The SJW are more active than before, and people are still scared and isolated. All future political-level decisions aside, do people feel safer now than 8 years ago?

    Politics and Poker are mentally tough because they are played for stakes. If one player starts to go aggressive, everyone else is going to have to adjust. NLHE is a strategic nightmare, it rewards rapud escalation with limited information, but with no ability to have a partial victory or defeat, but US politics have usually been more sedate. If the consequences (stakes) for losing are the loss of legal protection, then the strategic logic starts to get complicated.

    Of course, there are more than a few people currently in custody who can tell you the consequences of defeat.

  114. At this point I simply cannot imagine how things would’ve been here in the USA for conservatives if Trump had lost.

  115. I wasn’t indulging in hyperbole when I wrote: “Alt-Righters are jailed, millions of migrants are brought in, and World War III starts. The kid-fucker globalists needed a bit more than eight years to consolidate their power; Hillary’s first term would have delivered the finishing move. But they never saw Trump coming.”

    Hillary’s infamous AltRight speech, as I see it now, wasn’t election-mudslinging. More likely, its purpose was to lay groundwork for crackdowns upon taking office.

  116. Ulrich, the strongest nationalists I know play NLTH.

    It is still a game of strategy and calculation. A white supremacist can definitely clean up.

    All good nationalists love risk because winning money is better than earning it.

    I too would like to see a name on Spencer’s attacker. I doubt the police will do anything. As David Lane used to say – the boys in blue work for the jew.

  117. Hillary’s infamous AltRight speech, as I see it now, wasn’t election-mudslinging. More likely, its purpose was to lay groundwork for crackdowns upon taking office.

    Also, I’d guess that her “big data” consultants did significant research in the aftermath of her “unveiling” of the term alt-right and it didn’t show enough upside as a shame/trigger term yet, so she shelved it. But if it had performed well with her focus groups and social media analysts you can bet she would’ve pounded away at the “alt right” term until the last.

    And, smartly, they may have seen the wisdom in leaving that term alone if they deemed that it could have the opposite effect and actually been a big advertising/recruting boon for the A/R.

  118. Sikma would be at about 98 : 2 on the Nordic Semitic ratio, but yeah he for sure has some of that look i was referring to.

    Randy Brewer was pretty cool. He played for the Gophers back in the early 80s. They made it to the Elite 8 once time during his reign, if i recall correctly. Back then they said he was 7 foot 4. You would think they would know how to get accurate measurements by now.

    There is an Indian guy at that same height how was drafted by was it Miami. There is a netflix doc on him called One in a Billion that is a good watch. It is very human interest and gets the viewer on his side. Be warned, it is top notch human feelz pro diversity, netflix doing its thing.

    From the little reading i did, many suspect that Satnam Singh was drafted primarily as a PR move, by the savvy jew Cuban for him to get a lead into the Indian market share.

    In Singh’s defense, and at least according to the documentary, he has “hand” and the strength to match his size. He is not as tall as his father in the film.

  119. RE. hydro-into-metal,

    That’s amazing; i love breakthroughs like this in which you can start imagining IRL scenarios for onetime mere loose fantasies and imaginings.

    I wonder if this will be like I.T. technology when it reached critical mass: an innovation so massive and vast that it brought about possibilities and opps that one could only partially imagine. But also a technology so disruptive of the present order that it caused lots of painful changes too, in the form of job industries lost (versus the net gain in detailed I.T.).

    And then there’s the whole inevitable sea change culturallyi that such innovations unmoor; a la the discussions EPG and I have on how profound tech changes aesthetic and certain artistic sense, assessment and issues of artistic overload or sudden irrelevance.

    None of this is to suggest it should’nt be; there’s really no turning back whatever is now a collecctive impulse. But it is interesting in how whatever tomorrow’s bounty, it will bring both up-to-date opportunity and folly.

  120. America re-grows balls of steel immediately after whole Sr Mgmt Team at State Department resigns:

    You know this story was reported a bunch in the last week, but they were actually fired. Just more fake news by liberals wanting to drum up “controversy.”

    And if Sr. State Department officials are politicized enough to the point that they’re actually even considering resignation due to a change in President it means they’re better off leaving, and the country is better off having them gone. And anyone who thinks that high-level government paper-pushing desk-monkey bureaucrats aren’t 100% replaceable is part of the problem that Trump is currently fixing.

  121. “And anyone who thinks that high-level government paper-pushing desk-monkey bureaucrats aren’t 100% replaceable is part of the problem that Trump is currently fixing.”

    Maybe the prez agreed to say they ‘resigned’ if they’d go quietly. But I doubt they were fired and would say they resigned and there’d be no retort from Trump.

    BTW, Trump is really blowing a lot of his starting-gate executive power by acting like the pompous jackass so many expected him to be. I know he can do no wrong here, but he’s really being foolish. You have to know something about press etiquette, but it is beyond the pale to call a Saturday press conference to announced an executive White House INVESTIGATION into newspaper estimates of the crowd size at his inauguration —– not to mention total bullshit claims that three-to-five-million people illegally voted for HRC, therefore preventing insecure baby from claiming the popular vote; i can just imagine how you react if a Dem was acting like such a senile eight-year-old.

    But then, as peterike declared, “narcissism” doesn’t exist; it’s just some phony malady that ‘da Jews’ invented.

    Whatever; partisanship will be partisan, but just remember: political capital is finite!

  122. Once you see what Trump is doing as emergency measures on your behalf in response to extinction-level threats, you not just understand, but you’re downright awed by his moves.

    To paraphrase/quote someone elsewhere: “I’d take a bullet for Trump because my children would be better off as orphans in Trump’s America than with me in an anti-White America. And I’m a damn good father.”

  123. The “outrageous” bait he throws out to the media has been interpreted by VD, Scott Adams, and others as strategic: it shorts out the media cycles on an irrelevancy while he accomplishes three substantial things. They can’t keep up with him.

    It is also helpful to understand Trump and his supporters on the alt-Right when you see the corporate media not as an adversary or a partner, but as an enemy.

  124. “It is also helpful to understand Trump and his supporters on the alt-Right when you see the corporate media not as an adversary or a partner, but as an enemy.”

    I can easily imagine that’s true. But I don’t buy your ‘his oafishness is just a tactical ruse” theory, in terms of his other behavior. (Sorry, but i can’t help but think that you don’t either).

    IDK: I see the value of: if he can control the border, fix the trade deficit, bring back a profiting and noble lower and middle class, then all the other style faux pas are nothing but a momentary distraction. Maybe, but he’s sounding alarms in his own party and he needs old-school partisan allegiance to get those aforementioned reforms through (i,e, for the record, i’m not with you guys on rescinding the ACA; i;’m more like you were when it was Romney’s plan, not that evil woogie Obama’s! 🙂 )

    All-in-all, I’d feel better if these exact campaign promises were being enacted by one newly elected “President Buchanan” than “Das Donald”

  125. The rub is, it takes The Donald to accomplish these things. Anyone else would have been in over his head. There is just too much in the way of hostile establishment to overcome. From being buried by simple bad press and obstructionism, to getting JFK’d.

    He may well turn out to be the Andrew Jackson of our time and possibly even a greater figure.

  126. BTW, Trump is really blowing a lot of his starting-gate executive power by acting like the pompous jackass so many expected him to be. I know he can do no wrong here,

    Well, he’s done many things in ways I think he could’ve handled better, even if you’re allowing him wide latitude to be the bombastic loudmouth gadfly and such.

    But as long as he doesn’t get impeached, I don’t care.

    Anyone less outlandishly opinionated, energetic and spontaneous never could have fought off both the GOP and Dems to win this election.

    He’s definitely waking up core Americans on media bias. His constant crowing about voter fraud will put that issue under more scrutiny than ever, but the Democrats are so intent on opposing Trump’s every statement that they are too stupid to remember that any attention put on possible voting irregularities = 100% losing issue for the Democrats every single time, in every single way.

  127. He’s pissing some Mexicans off yugely. China instigating a water scuffle. Don boldly faked the kickoff on the first play, only to inform the press’s special teams that he was never even considering “football” to begin with. Andrew Jackson potential for sure.

  128. …and the media bias we are seeing now is mainly from the liberal side.

    Just imagine if he pissed off the jews as well. It would be Biblical. Perhaps the only reason he can get away with it is that he hasn’t gone after the jews. The liberals were just their slaves anyways.

  129. Nik you are buying into the old frame.

    While the press and the liberals complain about the latest controversy, which controversy is the way that they are treated, or something else about image and propriety — the President is busy doing what he sets out to accomplish.

    And regarding him having limited capital. That is wrong. It is clearer every moment that the limits to his political capital are increasing and have yet to be determined.

    His popularity is rising, and this even according to official poles.

    The old frame is irrelevant, and Trump keeps his enemies spinning their wheels trying to make sense of things and detract him with that old frame. Meanwhile, those who want to get on board and get things done, have a clear runway.

  130. When they say that Trump is anti-fragile, that means that the acceptably available weapons with which to get him, do not work.

    The Media has nothing. His popularity and effectiveness rise in response to his hostile treatment of the press.

    The issue of the voter fraud. Cam’s point on that is correct. The Democrats can only lose on that. And the crowd size at Inauguration is a device on which the media expends their limited capital.

    That they bite on it reveals how far they are left behind.

    All they can do, is submit, and ask for forgiveness, and maybe the President will throw them a bone.

  131. “His popularity is rising, and this even according to official poles.

    The old frame is irrelevant, and Trump keeps his enemies spinning their wheels trying to make sense of things and detract him with that old frame. Meanwhile, those who want to get on board and get things done, have a clear runway.”

    No, the polls i’ve seen cited show him losing popularity, though that fact didn’t go into my thought and its trajectory within the comment. As for your ‘old frame’ dismissal, i don’t see what you mean and i don’t give it credence and you certainly didn’t explain it here but rather merely cited it as if its authority is self-evident. But if that indeed is the case elsewhere, it isn’t with me. Forgive me, but I simply don’t believe that a new president calling a press conference on a Saturday to order a formal investigation on publicly broadcasted crowd-size estimates of his inauguration that weren’t to his liking, is not something I believe our new president did with willful cunning and calculation. Did for his claims about how he managed to somehow lose the popular vote.

    I’ll stop, because i know the futility of getting into a partisan-defined grouse-fest; rather, I’ll simply say once more: political capitol is finite.

  132. I think that we will find that The Establishment if separated into those who want to solidify the nation state of America and those who do not.

    And that those who do are more numerous and effective and powerful than is generally supposed.

    And of course, those who do have the support of the effective people who voted for Trump.

    Trump’s style of ignoring the political conventions is exactly what will work.

    Just do it. Just build the motherfucker, and try to stop me.

    They call it a preference cascade. People have been waiting for this for twenty years. Now is hour, Riders of Rohan.

    Spears shall be shaken, Shields shall be splintered, and sure day, a sword day, a red day, ere the Sun Rises!

  133. No, the polls i’ve seen cited show him losing popularity,

    If that is an indication of the validity of your speculations, then the rest of them are false too.

    Let’s not argue facts though. What is your source for his failing popularity?

    And of course that is relevant. That is the most relevant thing to the topic at hand. Does he have popular support or not?

    Is his capital rising or falling, with the people?

    Anyone placing more than a half-an-ounce of credibility with the Press is pretty much lost in the dust.

    Give me a break.

  134. i don’t see what you mean and i don’t give it credence and you certainly didn’t explain it here but rather merely cited it as if its authority is self-evident.

    It is not a difficult concept.

    The media has no credibility, and those who believe in its credibility, themselves have no credibility.

    As is apparent in this exchange, Trickin believes that the media has more influence than it does.

    The topic of the media’s ever-increasing irrelevancy is already old hat. What more is there to say.

    They lost all their cred and respect in this last election cycle.

    Are we disagreeing on that? What else are we talking bout here?

  135. Excuse me while i go peel some potatoes, Russian style with a knife.

    In the meantime, i would say that the only relevant fact in dispute is Trump’s numbers.

    If they are falling, then maybe the media has some influence. I have heard on the MPC thread that they are up from 52 to 54.

  136. “Let’s not argue facts though. What is your source for his failing popularity?”

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html

    “And of course that is relevant. That is the most relevant thing to the topic at hand. Does he have popular support or not?”

    There is consensual editorials and opinions that he is one of the least popular and targeted by his opposition pols in history; Trump probably acknowledges and even revels in the fact that he’s widely feared and controversial; he may use his disapproval rating as a badge of honor.

    I don’t care about that; i want him to get three of his biggest campaign tropes through and passed; i believe he’s ultimately more vulnerable than he thinks he is and acts as if he is. I think he is an ambulatory narcissistic psychotic (meaning, specifically, out of touch with reality as many-upon-many celebrities are, be-cause they ARE treated with regular surreal-reality, ‘surreality,’ if you will, in public and in private.

    I don’t believe he realizes he could lose political power and capitol; so I want him to get his planks nailed down ASAP, that’s all.

    If, for instance, Patrick Buchanan was prez, i wouldn’t worry as much, because i have a strong hunch that he’s much more anchored in reality and has —- what I subjectively believe and define—- a stronger sense of self-integrity and ethics and common sense; i.e., he, despite an elevated public profile, is not a ambulatory psychotic with delusions of grandeur.

    Just my humble five-cents worth.

  137. If, for instance, Patrick Buchanan was prez, i wouldn’t worry as much, because i have a strong hunch that he’s much more anchored in reality and has —- what I subjectively believe and define—- a stronger sense of self-integrity and ethics and common sense; i.e., he, despite an elevated public profile, is not a ambulatory psychotic with delusions of grandeur.

    Damn right. Buchanan for 2024 !!

    We should’ve elected him President for life in 1980 and we wouldn’t be having any of these problems.

  138. More reportage and pollage of Trump’s unprecedented level of unpopularity and polarity, from the GOP mag, New Republic (though quite moderate GOP).

    https://newrepublic.com/article/140169/trump-republicans-suicide-mission-together

    What’s worrisome is all the behind-the-scenes rancor within the GOP; (i know, i know —- but the status-quo GOP is needed to get his legislation through, and T’s not comporting himself in a way in which such a priority is seems to be first and foremost on his mind.

    Fuck all the worry over a lack of public adoration!

  139. Well, Trump could’ve dealt with the illegal immigrant voter issue later. But, he had to get right down to the issue on the wall right away, and his approval rating was bound to fall as he wades through that ugly business. No way around it.

    Apparently, the peso has been losing steam since Trump turned his attention to Mexico, and dropped again today after the Mexican president cancelled the meeting:

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/dollar-wallows-near-7-week-lows-on-trump-protectionism.html

  140. Look at this crap that Curryvinus just posted on another site:

    The argument made by Vox Day is that the melting pot is “anti-American and anti-Christian.” From his point of view, the Constitution was meant secure the rights of Englishmen and only applies to this particular group of people, since the non-English–meaning white Europeans–lack the intellectual capacity to properly comprehend its ideals. So those American citizens born in Portugal or in Romania are other than American. In this impending race war by 2033, is there any place for this large amount of white Americans who are the descendants of non-Anglo Europeans in the Alt-Right America? Vox Day says, “I have no idea. It’s not for me to decide where the lines will be drawn. I can only say that there is a very high probability that lines will be drawn. Precisely where, my guess is no better than anyone else’s.”

    Interesting how few of his supposed high IQ Vile Faceless Minions dare question his rationale. So, my fellow white Europeans who are not of English descent, are you on board with his position? Is he not equating that YOU are refuse, that YOU are the tired and huddled masses, that YOU should have never received voting rights, with his insistence that a select few have the right to call themselves “Americans”?

    LOL

  141. Happy Friday, folks. There are well-earned IPAs with my name on them. (literally, you can say). I’ll have a long post up tomorrow. Some of my best work to date.

  142. He’s doing the “Let’s you and him fight.” And missing the point entirely. Sad!

    There’s a certain type of psycho South Asian that finds their way to alt right sites, bringing with them a serious inferiority complex towards whites. That she-thing would make constant disparaging remarks about western women and the superiority of Indian culture, this looney’s deal is trying to divide “Anglos” from other whites in a very, very bizarre way that not only doesn’t work, but just isn’t even accomplishing his obvious goal of annoying people.

    These people have problems, man.

  143. Thanks for the links nikcrit.

    From the New Republic,

    First, as unpopular as Trump is generally, he is still popular enough among Republican voters to scare Republican officials into complicity.

    Second, for all the chaos surrounding Trump, the vast majority of substantive steps he’s taken since assuming the presidency have been steps Republicans are quietly thrilled with. He’s begun destabilizing Obamacare, he’s promoted a net neutrality-opponent to chair the FCC, he’s begun a crackdown on illegal immigration.

    These are all steps Trump has the authority to take on his own, and he’s shown a basic willingness to behave like an apparatchik. He nominates conservative true believers to the cabinet; he’ll sign any executive order his advisers place in front of him. Republicans, in other words, have begun enacting an agenda they know to be just as unpopular as Trump. They are acting exactly as you’d imagine a party to act—indeed, as many of us predicted they’d act—if they believed this was their one and only chance to pull off a major heist. Trump’s unexpected victory has provided them with exactly that.

    Here the article acknowledges that Trump is acting to get some Big Things done, as listed in the second paragraph, but then describes those things in the next paragraph as unpopular.

    And later in the conclusion, those actions are characterized as not having popular support and as “a political suicide mission.”

    In their ideal world, Republicans would be imposing this agenda on the country with a popular mandate and a president with broad public support. “Whopping majorities,” as McConnell once yearned for.

    They don’t have that luxury, but they’re not letting it stop them. To the contrary, if they believed their lack of consensus and popular support were fatal to their agenda, they would have no reason not to jettison Trump before he did irrevocable damage to their party, the country, and the international order. Instead, they will embrace the current arrangement, in all of its recklessness, at least until their agenda is complete—or in ruins.

    The alternative—to take a principled stand against Trumpism, at the expense of the platform they’ve waited patiently to enact—would provide them little political protection in the long run. They’d still be members of Trump’s party, but on his enemies’ list and with no substantive gains to show for it. Though Trump promises to be a disastrous president, they ironically have little incentive not to go down with him.

    In a perverse and amoral way, the logic of the political suicide mission is self-reinforcing, even if it ultimately fails to meet all of its objectives. Those who carry it out will have gone down for a cause, rather than for for their own sense of moral purity. And they know they won’t have to live with the unintended consequences—but everyday Americans will.

    So the premise of the article is that Trump and his actions do not have popular support, and its conclusion that “Trump promises to be a disastrous president” is pompous and tendentious.

    The premise that Trump does not have popular support. I don’t know what to say about that. My perspective is that he does have something of a mandate, and that the media and powers that be are working overtime to keep that under wraps. However that is entirely a matter of perspective and interpretation, granted.

    The article is leftist establishment in its presentation and the New Republic reads like another establishment cuckservative rag.

  144. The New Republic describes the listed items that Trump is working on,

    He’s begun destabilizing Obamacare, he’s promoted a net neutrality-opponent to chair the FCC, he’s begun a crackdown on illegal immigration.

    as things Republicans really want to do, but then calls doing them a political suicide mission because not enough popular support.

    The Cuckservative Party has taken a lot of heat lately, for being addicted to losing. And their strategy of losing is on full display in that article.

    Trump takes initial steps toward doing things that they concede gung-ho, and but then they bemoan and cry how doing those exact things is a recipe for disaster because they won’t have enough support!

    It is a self-destructive strategy. It is is impossible to win so much as partitioned urinal stall, with that strategy.

    And then (ironically, or is it un-ironically?) — they characterize Trump as self-destructive and doomed to fail … for committing on a path of action.

    Can’t win for losing, or how does the saying go?

  145. That GOP rag could not more clearly demonstrate its effective function which is stasis.

    They don’t have the balls to say we don’t support these goals, and in fact pretend to get behind them.

    But they characterize pursuing goals that they claim to support as suicide and doomed to failure.

    And they wonder why people are fed up with Establishment Politics.

    Their paralysis is on full display.

    Obviously the meta of it is nothing new. What does the government and political power structure serve but itself.

    But public face Action Item statements might could use some work!

    Uh, we might not have enough popular support. We conclude that it will be safer to worry about not succeeding and to characterize any efforts toward success as a lost cause. By they way are we still getting paid for this?

  146. Yeah Camlost nailed him with “Curryvinus.”

    What a tedious little dick he has.

    Talk about a worn out argument. That was the same schpiel that he brought here.

    It is the argument that, because there are lines and divisions, there can be no lines and divisions.

    Idiocy. Vox’s reply that “I don’t know (where will be the lines)” is a good reply. Yeah, i don’t know neither.

    The lines are in their nature permeable and subject to change over time. Oh well, this thing called life.

  147. It doesn’t matter if 85 percent of likely voters think that drunk driving is a crime when it’s closing time at a bar. Millions opposed US entry into the first World War, and stayed silent when a Wilson had antiwar activists rounded up.

    What matters is who has the organizational ability to put component loyalists in power and to make sure they stay effective and loyal.

    This week, do the activists who risked their livelihoods to appear at the rallies feel safer? Are they being recruited by governments and major employers alike? Is there even an attempt made to put the activists in positions of influence?

    Bismark did not go to the pulpit at the local Cathedral to look for support in the Kulturkumpf, nor did he go to give a speech at Napoleon’s tomb when Napoleon III was attempting to weaken Prussia. Ceasar would not have let his tributes be beat in the street without even a word or an attempt to find the responsible party.

  148. “So, my fellow white Europeans who are not of English descent, are you on board with his position? Is he not equating that YOU are refuse, that YOU are the tired and huddled masses, that YOU should have never received voting rights, with his insistence that a select few have the right to call themselves “Americans”?”

    Well, he does make a point that i have in countless debates here that skew to more abstract modes of ideological jousting: that in these hypothetical ‘race wars’ and ‘race states’ and ‘race-minded civic interaction, the provisional ‘other’ is a ever-changing vessel; i.e., once those pesky blacks and browns, are dealt with and put in their place in whatever capacity, raycist lines of delineation merely get more mono-toned with the most displaced and ostracized white man becoming alt-right’s neo-nigger. I would argue that the actual ‘graying’ of the U.S. historically is a case of immigration along that precise line and scale: English to English-French to Germanic/Scots-Irish WASP, to dusky mediterreanean Spanish and Italians, to Eastern European, etc., ad infinitum.

    Even on alt-right and HBD blogs I’ve debated on, within an hour or so of these theoretical ‘white ethno-states’ being formed online during the back-n-forth, soon thereafter are furious tangents about letting in Poles or Russians or Spaniards, etc.; I recall such devolving tirade on one such debate on the old Guy White, where Cam and I first met. It was absolutely hilarious to me.

    No, it’s clear to me: every social order needs or has to have its own ‘nigger’; racial fidelity goes where fidelity is, mates.

  149. — furious tangents about letting in Poles or Russians or Spaniards

    The false premise is the idea of “letting in” itself. As a Polish nationalist, I don’t want to “let in” a single American, Scot, Dane, German, or whatever onto the land my grandfathers bled for. And I happen to admire Americans, Scots, Danes, and Germans for their respective qualities.

    It’s really not that complicated. Koreans don’t need to let single one of me into their country. No offense taken, I wouldn’t dream of it.

    It takes a certain kind of deficient ego to equate one’s own worth with somebody validating his worth by his “letting him in” to his home.

  150. “It takes a certain kind of deficient ego to equate one’s own worth with somebody validating his worth by his “letting him in” to his home.”

    You entirely dismiss that fact that America was predicated on a multi-national model and that its egalitarian founding-document language, though referential to British class rigidity, eventually and ultimately evolved into a multi-nationalistic creed; yes, some given U.S. national in, say, 1805 didn’t foresee integrated b-w apartment complexes, but the constitution as a perpetual creed AND work-in-progress eventually allowed as much —- WHILE NEVER CONTRADICTING ITS FOUNDING PRINCIPALS.

    You can and will argue forever over whether that was the right or wrong thing to do; e.g., was it awry to allow for suffrage and civil rights, etc, blah-blah —– but the point is that the founding tenets ,unlike the European nation states, didn’t speak provisionally solely for the particular European ethnic as nationalist founding a sovereign state.

    That’s a big difference.

  151. O.T.

    Bit of weekend brevity here; i cannot determine whether or not this is serious; the lame factor is that strong.

    Bonus: it sounds like the 80s tech band The Human League did the soundtrack to this abomination:

  152. Ha ha ha. PA, you are allowing a non-WN to talk to you about WN policies.

    The proper reply, which is only pertinent for actual whites and WNs, is that “white nationalism” is distinctly American, as National Socialism was uniquely German.

    European nationalism tends to be very antagonistic to other white nations; Poles hate Germans hate French, etc.

    America WAS the white ethnostate. It can be again.

    We had blaxsploitation films, Cheech and Chong, Speedy Gonzalaz. We didn’t let women or niggers vote. We stole half of Mexico’s land so white men could live there, and we made niggers pick our cotton. We genocided the Indian too, another high virtue.

  153. “white nationalism” is distinctly American

    That is true. There are three fissures here and if they stay antagonistic to each other, three nations might come out of it: Yanks or WN, Southerners, and “Pacifica” or west coast liberals.

    It’s a guess at this point. Yanks would be an Anglo-core plus nth generation other Whites. Southerners are self exanatory; they already have an identity and many see themselves as Southtron before they are White. Another question is, will the northerners who had moved to Dixie be absorbed or excluded. Pacifica will depend on how strong they are about their liberal identity to remain distinct.

  154. the most displaced and ostracized white man becoming alt-right’s neo-nigger

    We could print t-shirts and hats with that slogan.

    But what’s-his-name might have got to it first: “The day i became the alt-right’s neo-nigger, was a good day.” — isn’t that featured in one of those rap songs?

  155. No, it’s clear to me: every social order needs or has to have its own ‘nigger’; racial fidelity goes where fidelity is, mates.

    The first part of that statement is undoubtedly true. The Irish WERE niggers in that sense. (they still are, hahaha)

    But the argument that that makes race and ethnic categories un-true or un-real or ineffective is false. That there is always a nigger relative to the pure-bloods is part of the reification of the category.

  156. Nikcrit,
    That is an instructional video on how to get along with white lefties. I probably could use a video on how to get along better with them. I have problems with that also.

  157. The press by and large has no respected Trump, so Trump is choosing not to respect them. There are some exceptions, and I think Trump is treating them well. Obama was never particularly nice to people who were against things he wanted to accomplish. Trump will probably be the same.
    I know people who hate Trump with a passion. Trump attempting to win them over will not work. They will sense weakness and go for the jugular.

  158. i do not want to see Trump get bogged down in petty battles. It does not take much of his time to tweet once or say something in an interview, as he recently did about Madonna. He hopefully is not dwelling on these people.
    Trump just met with the Prime Minuster of England. They seemed to get along well. It’s much more important for him to be respected by Teresa May than someone like Madonna.

  159. The video is good. Better than any SNL skit i have seen in the last 20 years.

    The race messages are all cloaked in double irony, which is lame and tired, but whatever.

  160. “But the argument that that makes race and ethnic categories un-true or un-real or ineffective is false.”

    Lol. I actually got that statement you’re referring to backwards. It should be: “racial fidelity IS where racial fidelity GOES, mates.” (I had just returned home from a night out that featured a few pints of Stella Artois).

    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    “We had blaxsploitation films, Cheech and Chong, Speedy Gonzalaz.”

    Ryu, are you sure you wanna claim Blaxploitation films for the white man? I mean, off the top of my head, i can think of only one or two director of such films that were white, yet neither of ’em were ‘conservative’ or right-of-center by ANY stretch of the imagination.

    Also, blaxploitation cinema was arguably provided the first examples of commercial interracial sex in this country.

    I often wonder where you come up with some of your commentary —— basically those that go beyond one sentence.

  161. “It’s a guess at this point. Yanks would be an Anglo-core plus nth generation other Whites. Southerners are self exanatory; they already have an identity and many see themselves as Southtron before they are White. Another question is, will the northerners who had moved to Dixie be absorbed or excluded. Pacifica will depend on how strong they are about their liberal identity to remain distinct.”

    I don’t see that plausibly happening now, through any existing channels at least. (Yes, I know, that can change quickly)….. a few questions though: “nth generation whites”???…….. “see themselves as ‘southern’ before they are white? Really? What leads you to discern as much? I think of ‘southern’ cultural style as meta, i.e., in the way elk and I sometimes forget we have those ‘hey-dere,’ Midwestern accents and peterike has his Brooklyn patois and Camlost has his dixie slang—– i..e., something that’s shared but recognizable instantly to others and to its practitioners only when he or she is being self-consciously inquisitive.

    In any case, i think regional-ism identity is something to meta to consciously rally around absent any hardcore political platform planks.

  162. A headline on CNN.com article says “Trump bans 134,000,000”.

    LOL. Can this really be happening? This is what journalists are publishing today? Do they not have an absurdity alarm…or editor?

    134 million?

  163. I do wonder how long it will take for the Democrats to have to start dealing with the “blacklash” of their #1 core constituency demanding attention, again.

    Black people really could care less about any wall with Mexico or Middle Eastern immigration issues. It won’t take long before they start to get really vocal about it.

  164. “A headline on CNN.com article says “Trump bans 134,000,000””

    That was technically permissible statement, going by the routine sensationalism that goes into mainstream newspaper headlines.

    For instance, when the Knicks or whatever team it was had that free NBA-game day last year, it would be feasbile to write a provocative headline detailing the promotion that said: “Knicks send open invite to 12-million New Yorkers,” as to be eligible you had to be a NY city resident.

    IOW: you can be a bit sensationalistic and evasive if you IMMEDIATELY clear up the vagueness of your headline; and those immigration stories did, from what i just looked at; i.e, they immediately made it clear that anyone from the listed 7 countries were currently ineligible to come here, and the 134 million is the net population of those seven countries;.

    Unsaid was the fact that there is no way that every single resident of those countries was going to attempt to come to American; hence, therein lies the sensationalism discussed above..

  165. A headline on CNN.com article says “Trump bans 134,000,000″.

    The implication being that that is a lot.

    The headline oughtta be:

    6,500,000,000 Marked for Restriction, America Celebrates

  166. The teacher in question, Sandy Doan, is SE Asian, Vietnamese or Hmong by her looks and name. In the link her picture is not included but turns up easily enough in an image search.

    Mediocre looks, but not bad by the standards of junior high social studies. From the article,

    “Even as she was making the payments, she continued having sex with the student, court documents said.”

    Apparently the student was 14 years old. This was in Texas. How likely is it he was on the football team?

    In my opinion it ought not be a crime for a 14-year male to screw his lonely Asian teacher.

    It just doesn’t pass the smell test, as wrong.

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