Defending Elk

As reported by RT Online, “xenophobic” riots erupted in the Polish town of Ełk (pron. Eh-wk) after a 21-year-old local man was stabbed to death by four men of Arab descent outside of their kebab diner. The suspects are in police custody. More than two dozen protesters were later detained as 300 people ransacked the diner in retaliation.

Xenophobic. The word’s disapproving usage codifies the respectability of tolerance, making judicious postures toward foreigners unfashionable. Cultural Marxism works as long as it successfully persuades attractive young women to judge men by its values and convinces men to dance to that tune to get laid. In other words, it installs girls as arbiters of correct attitudes toward the destiny of their nation. But Europeans are snapping out of their cornucopia trance and anyhow, we are a K-selected patriarchal race — we do more than display to our women, we also have them aspire to meet our standards.

The slain young man may not have been an innocent victim. According to a credible-sounding regular commenter at Vox Popoli, he was allegedly a known criminal with a rap sheet: “he started not-so-friendly chat with bar service, and the he left with two cokes, refusing to pay. Two Algerians, Moroccan and Tunisian (a chef) run after him. [The] chef stabbed him twice.”

It doesn’t matter. Foreigners don’t get to do vigilante justice. And as I put it last year, a healthy society includes its own reasonably contained criminal underclass:

We are better-off for having our own reserve army of muscle and balls. And importantly, we need someone to rule the rougher streets; best it’s our thugs than their thugs.

Looking from the perspective of a future victory, we would not have repelled the invaders and hanged the traitors without our own rough young men […] being the first to stick their necks out and take it to the streets.

Morbid tolerance did not work out well in Sweden. It has not worked out well anywhere.

With regards to action, I never tell readers to do something, in part because one shouldn’t tell anyone to do something he wouldn’t do himself. I navigate a neoliberal sewer every day and I don’t do anything about it. However, there are circumstances under which I would in fact do something.

An example from my visit to Poland, a tourist district of another medium-sized city. I’m having dinner with an older relative in an outdoor section of a restaurant, when he says with a wry smile on his face: “Hey, it looks like diversity has followed you here from America.” He nods his head toward something behind me, a hostess leading a party toward their table. It was five men in their late twenties wearing their country’s national team track suits and appearing to be professional athletes. Two were White and three were a mix of black African and Arabic.

They were having a lively conversation in French. I kept a discrete eye on their table and sussed out their dynamic. One of the two White men was the leader of the group; he was mostly quiet but had authority in his expression and the others’ body language was deferential toward him. The diplomat of the group was one of the mixed-race men, mostly sub-Saharan in appearance but with an Arab angularity to his facial features. He talked the most and others laughed at his jokes. They talked loudly but then again, elite athletes aren’t shy people. I didn’t pick up on any disrespect to the other patrons.

A pretty waitress came to take their orders and they spoke with her in heavily-accented English. The “diplomat” had a big grin and very bright eyes. They were visibly impressed by her but not lecherous. Like schoolboys awed by a beautiful teacher. As someone who has traveled, I could relate: when in an unfamiliar culture, you walk the thin line of appreciation and inoffensiveness.

When she returned to check on their table, she was wearing a jacket over her blouse. Poland can be cold even in the height of summer.

They left before we did. Two observations, one on hospitality and one on action. On the former: visitors who haven’t been accommodated to feel overly comfortable someplace that is not their home respond by behaving like guests and not like invaders. Xenophobia works. On the latter: had they disrespected what’s mine, I’d have gotten up.

The linked RT article concludes with a statement by Serbian-American political commentator and former Yugoslav dissident Srdja Trifkovic:

In general, it is the former Soviet bloc countries which also include the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary which have offered stiff resistance to the attempt by the European Union to impose migrant quotas on individual member countries regardless of their parliaments’ will or public opinion. So, it is really in this context that this should be seen as an expression of nativist anger and resistance to what is seen in central and eastern Europe as western Europe’s failed policy of excessive welcoming of the migrants and unsuccessful attempt to [integrate] them into the whole society.

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149 thoughts on “Defending Elk

  1. Cultural Marxism works as long as it successfully persuades attractive young women

    Just so. As I read in a comment some years ago, cultural marxism works *through* – but not BY, or FOR – young women.

  2. “Cultural Marxism works as long as it successfully persuades attractive young women to judge men by its values and convinces men to dance to that tune to get laid. In other words, it installs girls as arbiters of correct attitudes toward the destiny of their nation.”

    That would be an utterly unobtainable task absent any biological drive or impetus to the impulse; you and the alt-right in its various plank positions alternately use propaganda and groupthink to explain cultural and biological actions by whites that you don’t like; i.e. ‘find inconvenient’ to ego and other forms of personal reification.

    Unless, of course, i’m wrong —– and it works like this: young white females intuitive and reflexive SEXUAL response and triggers are set by how well their men respond to a theoretical imperative having to do with ‘diversity,’ a social value and practice that they have no cultural or biological value toward or relationship with —– but that they nonetheless put above all else in terms of cultural and biological needs, even being a factor in their reproductive patterns.

    Maturity requires countenancing realistic views of humanity, even if we don’t like them and they don’t flatter our human wishes.

  3. Translation– and I admit that was a rather garbled mouthful; but all i was saying was this:

    That political correctness is enacted by white females refusing to undo their chastity belts unless their white male suitors embrace diversity.

    Such an assertion reeks of avoidance.

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  5. I’m going through a mental block in terms of clarity of prose; it happens whenever i have a break from work and i’m not writing all those midnessl policy directives and assessments….. it’s like the mind forgets a few rote, key forms that are used over and over and over —– that seem unexceptional but that in fact render your rhetoric incomprehensible unless they are used in duly correct form.

    Here’s a suggestion: we should mandate that we write all our posts and comments in poetic verse for one week.

  6. “as I put it last year, a healthy society includes its own reasonably contained criminal underclass:”

    You’ve said that repeatedly and I’ve thought about it a bunch of times; I think you’re right in that that has been supplanted in the U.S.; even in white-ish su burbs, vice has been taken over by NAMs (of course, that is largely anecdotal, but i can’t think of exceptions even gathered from mishmashed literary forms; in L.A. i twas largely Hispanic and Puerto Rican along with black; and here east of the mighty Mississippi, it’s pretty much a black and Puerto Rican affair, vice.

    Is that now true throughout Europe? I’m guessing it is in Western Europe, the part we lament for capitulating to Islam; and i’d further guess that a lot of the vice there is run by lower-caste Arabs.

    But what about the Eastern European countries; it seems to me that my casual observation, i.e., shitty cable movies involving Eastern European cart-theft rings, that the bad-asses there are still white proles, who’ve got a sorta Russian vibe and menace —- or at least in the way portrayed in American B-movie dramas.

  7. but all i was saying was this:

    That political correctness is enacted by white females refusing to undo their chastity belts unless their white male suitors embrace diversity.

    Such an assertion reeks of avoidance.

    That is a fair criticism. The mechanisms of pc-culture and how it is enforced are complex. On the other hand, the contention that at its heart, it appeals to women and the feminine side of society, is a good starting point.

  8. On the latter: had they disrespected what’s mine, I’d have gotten up

    That is an interesting scenario, and i try to imagine a comparable, and it is difficult.

    As an American, if i were in a diner (hey it’s the 50s in this scene) and Peggy Sue the sassy waitress with the pen behind her bee bonnet ‘do and the gum-chewing attitude and the yellow floral pattern dress with a white apron, were to get hassled … by whom, exactly?

    In America it would have to be naggers; except that is not how it goes, because there is an understanding about how things work. A holdover of 50s propriety, perhaps? Know that when you are in Dixie and you step into the diner, it is a time-warp.

    So who then would be the antagonists, in this hypothetical comparable scenario?

    That such antagonists are hard to imagine, is the point. It is a different prevailing situation, in Poland versus here. Somalis are not hassling the baristas at Caribou, and nor are they hanging out at Denny’s.

    However though, in some implausible situation five Arab toughs giving some grief to the waitstaff or the bartender at Famous Dave’s or wherever, i don’t know that i would step in.

    It all depends, but who would have my back?

  9. This story is interesting. I had read it earlier and noted the strange name of the town.

    It is interesting because it gets to the heart of it, that in places in Europe, particularly places other than Germany and Scandinavia, the locals have a sense of place.

    And part of that sense of place, is that it extends all the way down to the lower classes that morph into the criminal underclasses, which themselves can then horseshoe up into the respectable and glamorous upper class underworld where all the action really is. Or is that glamorous image just in the movies? (No.)

    And there is an appeal in that there image of Polish lads in black leather jackets, smoking cigarettes on the cold street. Who doesn’t wish that they were part of that, over there, in Europe or Italy, and organizing with their comrades. (I guess i should add the obligatory: no homo.)

    Lately that has been on my mind, trying to imagine the difference, between Europe on the one side, and the the US and the Diaspora countries on the other, of the “lived experience” of this multi-cultural imposition.

    I can’t help but think that their framework for responding to this experience (of the imposition of multiculturalism), is quite a bit different.

    They got nowhere else to go. Whereas even now in the 21st century, Americans are not really at home in their place.

  10. Is that now true throughout Europe? I’m guessing it is in Western Europe, the part we lament for capitulating to Islam; and i’d further guess that a lot of the vice there is run by lower-caste Arabs.

    A lot of the higher organized crime in Europe comes from further East – in the UK it’s Russians and Bulgarians. In central Europe it’s Chechens, Turks and Albanians. Gypsies are always there in ever major European city to do the minor stuff like pickpocketing and street prostitution.

    If you’re familiar with Liam Neeson’s “Taken” movies those are Albanians coordinating crime between the European continent and Arabs/Turks.

  11. Having many of your criminals being of a different race is one of the most depressing things about diversity IMO. No one wants to be part of the goody two shoes race. Many crime shows feature white criminals. There is obviously a demand for them.

  12. Black criminals depress white people. White criminals are exciting.

    Yes, the utterly comical ineptitude of black criminals is disheartening. White criminals are interesting on Law & Order because of the plausibility of whites being smart, competent criminals.

  13. — So who then would be the antagonists, in this hypothetical comparable scenario? (Elk)

    It could be anything, even the most unexpected thing that trips your protective or territorial instinct. Popular literature describes it as “seeing red.” You literally don’t care if you die; but that’s moot because you’re operating on animal aggression at that point, there is no thinking.

    I’ve been there (situation unrelated to this post). My face was later described as terrifying. Drained of blood, blank and robotic like a killer’s.

  14. Indigenous (one’s own) criminals are necessary for liberty, unless you live in an isolated Swiss canton. Given that isolation is not a feature to bet on at the moment, you have to have your own organized crime on the high end to crowd out foreign organized criminals, and your street toughs hanging out to crowd out theirs on the low end.

    Either way — they’ll be people you want to avoid, but at least there won’t be an element of biological hate between you and them.

    The criminals who serve no useful social role are lone-wolf psychos/predators and loser-druggies who do petty crime and break-ins to support their habit.

    The other element needed to secure liberty is (preferrably) vigilant law abiding men empowered to police their community, or (distant second preference) a strong friendly state — in both scenarios, stronger than criminals or in an honor-agreement of non aggression.

  15. Those guys felt that it was their place, and acted accordingly.

    In America, where do white people feel like that?

    And secondly, how ironic is it, that white people in America don’t feel like it is their place.

    But to answer the first question, in ‘ethnic’ neighborhoods in cities like Boston and New York, neighborhoods are territorial and white ethnics have some of that territory. I have no first hand experience there, but Boston is famously Irish, and parts of Brooklyn are Italian, and unless The Sopranos was entirely made up Jersey has ethnic neighborhoods as well.

    Most small towns in the countryside in flyover country are implicitly white, and actually white, and so those are not in dispute.

    The places that are interesting to consider are suburbs and cities where there are incoming populations. Here there are Somalis and indigenous blacks and latinos, the usual suspects.

    And the white locals such as myself have no ownership of the local public space. It is hard (to impossible) to overstate that fact.

    Much of that ‘obtaining condition’ is circumstantial — the circumstances of the suburbs. So it is a bitter twist that the living space that we built for ourselves has left us vulnerable to outsiders.

  16. “And the white locals such as myself have no ownership of the local public space. It is hard (to impossible) to overstate that fact.”

    That is the “lived experience” of life in metropolitan America.

    [Sorry to quote myself so prolifically.]

    And then somehow it is also turned back on the individuals who complain about that, as if what they complaining about is unreasonable or worse, a reflection of their own problems.

    It is a reflection of their own problems … as it turns out … but it is more complicated than that!

  17. No one wants to be part of the goody two shoes race.

    That is very true. Somehow the white race in America lost its rebel yell.

    When is the last time you heard a real one, from the heart?

    Back in the 70s, guys around would still issue forth, once in awhile, usually at a ‘kegger’ and ‘down by the River,’ which phrases for some reason need to be in quotes, but which rebel yells they inspired not ironically.

    Rebel yells of course cannot be ironic. And this joke, this riff on the rebel yell? as always the good writers and the jews of Hollywood done got it first. In their movie starring (((Billy Crystal))) and his goy ethnic goy-friend what’s-his-name they go out to the ranch to get back their penises and the ethnic goy friend does a rebel yell and Jack Palance congratulates him,

    That’s not a bad yeehaw, son.

  18. The places that are interesting to consider are suburbs and cities where there are incoming populations. Here there are Somalis and indigenous blacks and latinos, the usual suspects.

    We’ve got lovely Ethiopian/Somali mixed gangs shooting each other, I wish y’all would return them back to their homeland in the 10,000 lakes. But they’re typically operating so far down in the vast 4-county area that is deepest Africa like the Heart of Darkness (southside metro Atlanta) that no whites are ever harmed.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/local/dekalb-teens-accused-murder-after-body-found-notorious-complex/5LDStK0tmp6GO4xg18kzRO/

    They’ve got a little “United Nations” housing project there (Clarkston) where 3rd-world refugees have brought a little slice of home with them:

  19. There are plenty of depressing white criminals, too. Black ones overwhelmingly are. It’s a very tense situation when the whites are very functional and law abiding and the blacks are not. A good example would be a Scandinavian country.

  20. I read some reviews of the movie The Whites of Boone County on Netflix. A lot of the black viewers seemed to enjoy the movie and liked the characters. I suppose high functioning whites just make them feel inferior. Lower functioning whites don’t as much.

  21. “Yes, the utterly comical ineptitude of black criminals is disheartening. White criminals are interesting on Law & Order because of the plausibility of whites being smart, “

    It seems women love that show, in all its silly and IMplausible incarnations; i would think alt-right whites would be appalled by that show; NEVER a politically incorrect culprit and ALWAYS a guilty white whose otherwise perfect citizenry obsessed him and drove him to his atypically evil deed…….. re. black criminals: I’ve seen wealthy, progressive, creative ‘whtie scenes’ in which the minority dope dealers are accorded a comically lofty and over-valued status in that world—– something somewhere between a friendly deity and dearly loved mascot…..that scene’s a bit askew from most mid-American benign-white interactions with minority criminals; i say watch vintage The Wire clips on Youtube to gather a fairly representative example; i say that show still did a good job on portraying the prole street-contraband state of affairs, ten-plus years off the air and counting.

  22. White women will return to white men when the men do what they need to do.

    Women don’t respect weakness. Only a weak race would allow niggers, spics and Muzz to run amok. Feminism would disapper within a week if white men began lyching minos. White women don’t trust white men to keep them safe any longer.

    Tribal warfare demands quid pro quo. If 4 muzz stab a white man, 4 muzz must be stabbed in kind.

    The reason Muzz can stab Poles is because they know other Muzz won’t rat on them. Most whites, even most WNs believe in “law and order” system-style, which means dealing with the pigs. Whites still think police will defend them. No – cops and soldiers work for money. Their primary concern is their paycheck.

  23. You know things are accelerating toward a change when Whites show no eagerness to publicly denounce our own Sturmsoldaten. Privately, we all cheer them on.

    Some WNs underestimate the value of a friendly government such as Trump’s, or at least for the hostile one to be demoralized and inept. With Hillary, we’d have neither. We needed the boot lifted off our necks.

    Where these WNs are right is that Trump’s ascendance is not a reason to slack off or place undue trust in the authorities. There’s collective work to be done and we’ve just gotten started.

  24. The blog stats in my WordPress dashboard confirm the cyclical nature of yet another phenomenon in the universe. One of the obvious things is the pattern of number of comments per day, which rises and falls on about a ten-day cycle. It reflects regular commenters’ enthusiasm/fatigue, as well as their energies feeding off each other. An overlapping cycle is the seven-day function of general readership, with page views and commenting peaking at mid-week and dipping on weekends, more heavily subsiding on and around major holidays.

    More subjectively, I also see a pattern with my own output, with several baseline-quality posts to the periodic inspired one. There is also a megacycle of great posts, if I may say so myself, concentrated in a short time span: the first one centered on February 2016, the second was this past late summer/early fall.

    There are also external events that affect things. In a good way, when a top-traffic site links to one of my posts, or when a major event such as the recent US election propels me and everyone else into high-energy thinking. And in an adverse way, when I’m traveling or too busy to commit adequate time to blogging.

    I also noticed that when I neglect lifting for a stretch of days, my thinking gets lazy. A solid workout has the opposite effect: sets to failure light up my brain.

    Music has an effect as well. I noticed it driving this morning. I usually listen to an NPR classical music station. They were playing a piano piece (piano solo or concerti work best) and thoughts started coming as though I was listening to someone else think. Then I switched to a rock station, to a song I like, and thoughts turned to mush.

  25. WN is marketing itself wrong.

    We are not “defending our territory.” Clearly the West no longer belongs to the white race, especially not to the white man.

    We are conquering an alien land filled with jews, minos and feminists. The past has nothing to do with it. They “should” be regarded as enemies to be destroyed.

    There is nothing left to defend. Only the oldest WNs would have the slightest recollection of that time. We want white men who don’t want to “earn” their living, they should want to “take” it.

  26. I haven’t seen a single mino during my entire stay in PL last summer except for what’s described in the post, plus a handful of Asian apparent tourists or students in that same city. Granted, I was mostly staying/traveling in rural areas. To a Westerner, a stretch of days where you encounter nothing but Whites is literally (and I do mean ‘literally’) soul-cleansing.

    Everyone in grocery stores, restaurants, cycling past the countryhouse you’re staying, on buses, or large groups of kids on a fieldtrip, everyone you see is not just White, but of the same nationality. Same with ad billboards and TV commercials.

    Like health, it’s something you take for granted until you lose it.

    The menace in Poland is potential. The EU, NATO… Plenty to defend, even as there have been breaches.

    Between the Oder and the Pacific, it’s a foreign occupation. Like past catastrophes, it’s everyone’s task to do his part in resistance and reconquest.

  27. One on the effects of returning from a clean place to dieversity is a feeling a constant, low level anger because you’ve been psychologically re-set to not accepting a muddy habitat as a given. “We don’t have to live like this” kind of thing. You palpably feel the illegitimacy of the multikult order.

  28. “One on the effects of returning from a clean place to dieversity is a feeling a constant, low level anger because you’ve been psychologically re-set to not accepting a muddy habitat as a given. “We don’t have to live like this” kind of thing. You palpably feel the illegitimacy of the multikult order.”

    Tp paraphrase Thomas Wolfe :”For some, the return to a clean place is, umm, ‘dieversity.’ They weren’t ‘reset’ to a non-muddy habitat because the ‘mud’ is part of their formative experience…… Now, if you’ll excuse me, my lunch break is over and it’s back to my, ummm, mudbath! lol!

    [The anger: is real. The resolve: more firm by the day. Its scale: growing. Its scope: global. The peaceful solution: separation. Nobody calls browns in their own countries ‘mud.’ — PA]

  29. I agree the situation is massively different in Europe than it is stateside; i noticed that ten years ago.

    it’s likely a multi-solution will manifest; one that we’ve all advanced, each with his or her partisan fervor: ‘separation,’ says PA, with a closed fist and a admiring choir that includes Ryu and Thor; “Amalgamation,’ says Nikcrit, who incarnates the outlier ‘outcaste,’ drawing everything from passionate empathy to vilification. Meanwhile, the flow of middle-of-the-road, piecemeal solutions and remedies will steadily flow as well.

    For some it’s: The end of the world.

    For others its; As the World Turns.

    [what Ryu or I or anyone else says here is very mild compared with what regular people say these days. There is no middle ground because there is no compromise with evil, one way or another. — PA

    PS: don’t scorn separation. It at least offers a way out. That’s not me speaking, it’s history’s track record.]

  30. p.s.@PA,

    And furthermore, it’s been determined that Trump cavorts with degenerates and conspires with radical jihadist operatives —– all while nibbling caviar and sipping champagne 25,000 feet in the air!!

    Talk about Rootless Cosmopolitans!!!

  31. We already are separated in many ways. I am physically around black people all the time, but I don’t have any black friends. My church is all white, except for one black woman in the choir, and one Asian woman married to a white man. The local schools are predominately white and Asian. I don’t plan on moving even though I am close to a dysfunctional, very black city. The local schools and police department are still good.

  32. There is a road I drive, where I see mostly white and Asian kids walking home from school. I then cross over one intersection and see mostly black and a few Hispanic kids walking home.

  33. There is no proper separation unless you see nothing but White people of all ages in low income areas too. Anyting less is class enclaves.

  34. That is a very good picture of Michael Jackson. He looks about as calm and composed as he ever was. Which is a testament to Trump’s people skills. He could make everyone feel like they were appreciated.

    Real charisma works like that. The person with the power (and the charisma) makes it seem like you are doing him the honor.

    I shook Billy Boy Bob Bubba’s hand, when he came into town on a campaign tour, it would have been the Fall of 91, and that was the effect he had (on me). Like he was glad to shake my hand. Very sincere (seeming).

    I also met Paul Wellstone, in that same time period, and was much less impressed with him personally. My impression then was that he was very preoccupied, and sweaty and not physically appealing. Those distinct impressions were back before i was an anti-Semite, so they were not a selection bias.

    Minnesota and its fucking jewish Senators. Wellstone, Franken, Coleman. Klobuchar goes to a Unitarian church, but looking at her face, she has to be ‘part jewish’.

    Wellstone met his end in a plane crash, which some have conspiracized, but the official cause is pilot error, and get this — his pilot was black.

  35. For others its; As the World Turns.

    nikcrit, i don’t know if you are still interested in the AR as a phenomena, but if so, i think the best ‘sample’ of it is not here amongst the middle-aged, but at Daily Stormer.

    That is the biggest AR site. Anglin has yet another definitive article on the meta-politics of the AR,

    http://www.dailystormer.com/purity-tests-are-absolute-poison-to-the-alt-right/

    If there is a more insightful (and current) writer about the emerging White politics, particular to America, i don’t know who it would be.

    I link to that article because sums up a feeling about a post i wanted to make, about the culture of the AR. My thoughts are a little different, but that article would be a starting point.

  36. I don’t want to get all hoaky and feel-good, but the point is that things have changed.

    The best and smartest young adults are no longer liberals.

    Those who have any combination of authentic identity, and interest in real-world politics, are going to be by necessity driven into the Alternative Right.

    **************

    The alternative to the Alternative Right is a feel-good world of multiculturalism. If that feel-good world works, then maybe the leftists and liberals will have a case.

    Am i right or am i right?

    So what IS that feel-good alternative to the AR? In reality, it doesn’t work out for most people. But the culture (of the Left) is set up that you are supposed to try, and if you don’t get with it, it is that you are not trying enough, or that the fault is with you.

    Another angle of the culture of the Left, is that it works for most people, for some time, but it coincides with youthfulness.

  37. The antipode of the AR and the Daily Stormer youth circus is MPC and Pleasureman, who says that the AR is composed of defective people.

    I don’t know that it is an either-or, but to contend that the AR is composed of defective people strikes me as somewhat tautological, or a true Scotsman error.

  38. In his article “Purity Tests are Absolute Poison to the Alt-Right,” Anglin is referring to purity in one’s life.

    He is NOT referring to racial purity, which — to some whatever extent — IS part of the emerging White political platform.

    And nor is he referring to idealogical purity, which also (to some whatever extent) is part of the deal. He makes those distinctions in his article.

    He says that what is poison to the AR is personal purity as a litmus test — because everyone has a past.

    Piggybacking on that article, the point that i would make: that the AR culture needs to be creative and healthy, and not (personally) destructive or some symptom of mental illness.

    Is that what we are seeing? Is the emerging culture of White Identity healthy and creative, and a force for good in the lives of its adherents?

  39. Sorry to get all gooey. It is a good question though.

    And also as an insider (in the process, man!) hard to evaluate.

    But for those on the outside, it really is THE question. What is the role of this emerging White Identity in the lives of its adherents?

    And who are these people. Are you living in the basement, or are you awesome?

    Realistically, where do you rate? Is Trump really a god emperor. If you and he were in a Mamet screenplay called The Edge, who would get to be Alec Baldwin and who Anthony Hopkins?

  40. Elk. I appreciate your good faith interpretations and attempts at politically sophisticated explanation. I just haven’t had the time to read that article and consider it all yet.

    In a nutshell I would simply like to see this cold realism of HBD applied to our culturally pluralistic society. That sounds like an irreconcilable position to many, but my religious ecumenicism says that it is not. ” the only thing we have to fear is one standard deviation itself!”

    More later if you care to hear it.

  41. P.s.— I didn’t intend for that lead sentence to sound the way it does. I meant I appreciate your attempts to make your position very clear.

  42. BREAKING: Pack of “teens” kidnap and torture a developmentally disabled white man all while shouting “Fuck Donald Trump, Fuck White People” and stream the entire crime on Facebook live. Youtube has tried to censor the video but copies of course have popped up. Corp media is spinning wildly trying to contain their narrative. This story has legs. #BLMKidnapping trending. Obama and Holder and the kikes in the MSM and Hollywood pushed us too far, now it’s our turn! 🙂

  43. When I see shit like that, I watch the following for inspiration (yes I know the Nazis were drug addicted degenerates but it’s good to know what we are capable when pushed against a wall)

  44. Nikcrit…

    You cannot recognize singularities. You cannot conceptualize the unique, one-instant, universe-wide phenomenon. Empirically-speaking, you cannot FATHOM The Perfect Man. The end result of this SELF-INFLICTED deficiency is the inability to conceive of white Supremacy, absolutely.

    So notice your SCRIPT. Your script fits inside the Narrative which is placed within The Redundant Phenomenon.

    Elk REDUNDANTLY ASKS “what is the white identity” and you never actually answer with any actual precision. So it is a mind game which you are wittingly or unwittingly inflicting upon this domain. And Elk facilitates.

    And because you DESIRE a total redundancy (for the certainty it provides you) then you abhor any separation which is tantamount to the existence of a singularity. Such existence of even a single, singular phenomenon falsifies “universal equality” in its most abstract application.

    And it is this desire for “universal equality,” or what you passively euphemize as “amalgamation,” which “stands” as your anti-metaphysical first principle. You are an anti-white Supremacist due a very coherent ideology. Whether you are aware of any of this is absolutely unknown.

    So you remain in a state of radical autonomy.

    And so does Anglin when he refuses to name the Jew qua Jew as the premier anti-white Supremacist even though said Jew calls all his worst enemies a “white supremacist.”

    Even the 120+ IQs here cannot wrap their head around the idea that {{{they}}} don’t want *you* to be wS and YOU still gladly oblige and call yourself enemy of the zeitgeist. It’s laughable and worthy of scorn, mockery and contempt.

  45. Yes, yes, of course, MGE.

    Par for the course. Read the cases out of South Africa and you’ll find daily stories of niggers raping Boer women with beer bottles then setting them on fire.

    One thing I haven’t found yet is stories of white action people raping minos, or torturing them. They do “good kills” which are relatively clean and quick.

    Chicago is a glorious city for direct action. I will praise minos to high heaven for that.

    800 homicides last year, a clearance rate also of about 25%. 75% of murders aren’t solved.

    Minos have a wonderful effect of destroying the American police state. Cities like Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, St Louis and so on are “easy” places to get away with crime, because there is so much of it.

  46. I don’t understand nickrit’s comment.

    I literally cannot parse it. Is it worth the effort?

    Probably not. He’s not alone in posting gibberish. There’s something about the commentators here… Which is odd, because PA himself is so cogent.

  47. We are not “defending our territory.”…We are conquering an alien land filled with jews, minos and feminists“.

    Yes, this is what I often say: we’re not here to save Europe (or America), but to conquer it.

    Many of those who are ostensibly on our side will not survive the coming storm.

  48. Springsteen recently did an interview about Trump and his supporters. He said, “once you let the racism genie out of the bottle, you can’t easily put it back”. Basically, I see this as saying we should suppress free speech just so Bruce can feel good about the world. He annoys me, he is so spoiled and smug.

  49. Maybe PA is right in that the status-quo zeitgeist is getting more brutish and merciless when it comes to dealing with p.c. pieties:

    It is interesting that he got a mainstream-amount book deal; by my lights, THAT is a sign that ‘things are changing;’ not much else convinces me.

  50. Yeah, Milo has some real guts and you gotta love his anti-PC crusading, but I’m not really understanding why he got into some tiff with Leslie Jones, she’s not even a politician. And as ugly as she is, I want her on my mind less, not more.

    Must be a gay thing, I dunno.

  51. You don’t like Milo, then don’t buy his book. It’s as simple as that. That’s the attitude I’m taking with all these outspoken liberal celebrities. I am boycotting them as much as possible.

  52. “Even the 120+ IQs here cannot wrap their head around the idea that {{{they}}} don’t want *you* to be wS and YOU still gladly oblige and call yourself enemy of the zeitgeist. It’s laughable and worthy of scorn, mockery and contempt.”

    Thor I don’t know what to make of your more politicized criticisms of me and my ‘nikcritness.’

    You’ve also been contradictory over the year —- at times exalting my aspirations by saying i seek ‘genuine ws’, while at other times criticizing and even mocking me for my lack thereof.

    All fair enough, but my point is that i’m truly confused by your assessments; i.e., they’re of no practical use to me.

    And that’s all probably for the better because I’ve decided in the last week or so to refrain from more ambitious political assessment and exchange here; some of the comments by the regulars here have sort of spooked me a bit, or, better yet, made me realize just how far off we are in terms of sharing similar perceptions. Violent revolution, racial or not, is a nonstarter for me and not something I empirically foresee here. I understand our blog host feels differently, and historically speaking, lived a different life in which such tumult was real and in face DID come to pass. But even in his case, the cultural and political faultlines were cracking and rumbling for decades prior. And then when it comes to some of the more interpersonal violence fetishes and paens accorded here, that pretty much sealed the deal for me perceptionally; IOW, that how Joseph Hope Franklin exchange was pretty sorry IMO; I beget all the right to their opinion; it just made it suddenly super evident just how little in common I indeed have with certain consensuses here; by my lights, characters such as his are beyond the pale. I would think nearly everyone of any political stripe would agree and certainly anyone who had a family that they protect.

    So, we don’t have to have anymore of our more esoteric circular debates; nothing was ever much resolved, anyway.

    But do tell me more about your college and semi-pro gridiron tales; of those, i’m truly enamored—- especially during this time of the year.

    Cam: what’s going to happen late Sunday afternoon in northern Wisconsin?

  53. Cam: what’s going to happen late Sunday afternoon in northern Wisconsin?

    Eli is 7-0 in his last 7 playoff games as an underdog, but Green Bay is on a roll. I think GB will win, but then it all comes to an end the following week when they come to “the casino.”

  54. In the end, the only WNs one can really trust are the most extreme ones. The trick is to find the smart ones of that type.

    It is because they, of all WNs, have the least investment in the current system. They are not out to sell books, get famous, or earn a political job.

    There’s only one test that doesn’t fail: the ability to kill minos.

    The Mex drug cartels test this way, the Mafia did, ISIS and al Queda, and WN shall be no different. There’s no other way to be sure.

    Many of the gains made during the “Trump Revolution” will be lost as the system cracks down. Power is a serious business.

  55. Milo never incited harassment against Jones. That’s what’s called “fake news.”

    Speaking of fake news, CNN edited out “fuck white people” from the #BLMkidnapping video.

    Interesting how CNN will scrounge around in the dirt for fake unsubstantiated hate crimes like hijab pullings that never happened, but when it comes to an actual hate crime they are strangely silent.

  56. CNN’s latest headline:

    Chicago torture: Teens stream abuse of special needs man on Facebook Live

    Teens

    Teens

    Teens

    It’s just teens you guyz. Nothing to see here. Just some rowdy people between the ages of 18 and 19. Damn teens acting up.

  57. Speaking of highly mediated race-baiting (for prophet in this instance); for a bonus, check out the pic-n-link lower on the page in which Iggy Pop explains why he traded in his sports car!

  58. The Mex drug cartels test this way, the Mafia did, ISIS and al Queda, and WN shall be no different. There’s no other way to be sure.

    Violence, the worst possible solution.

    Except when it’s the only solution in which case it is best.

  59. It’s just teens you guyz. Nothing to see here. Just some rowdy people between the ages of 18 and 19. Damn teens acting up.

    I am not advocating anything illegal, but obv those fuckers need to be dealt w/ 4 real. If they don’t get 20+ years, then someone near to them pays.

  60. As it turns out, on of the perps was 24, not a “teen”. More fake news.

    Teens
    Teens
    Teens

    We all know what that means by now

  61. One of the 7-11’s by my house back in Detroit has been the target of frequent shoplifting by “teens”.

    They have recently put up a sign stating “only one student at a time.”

    Student. Teen. All these words we use to dance around what we really mean.

  62. Life-affirming words like Kids, Teens, Youths, Students… not just language, but is there anything that isn’t corrupted by Diversity?

  63. Camlost, I remember that 2007 story that Sailer references. It made me understand the biological warfare element in multiculturalism.

  64. I am not advocating anything illegal, but obv those fuckers need to be dealt w/ 4 real. If they don’t get 20+ years, then someone near to them pays.

    The United States would’ve developed in a much different way if whites were as prone to tribalist, extra-judicial violence as what some more militant people want on the alt-right. In other words, America would’ve wound up a lot more like Turkey or Pakistan if white Americans were amenable to behaving like them.

    The prohibition against cousin marriage that was enforced by the church for over millenia did much to root tribalism out of whites, and it laid the foundation for the type of consciousness it takes to build a large nation. In much of the Middle East up to 40% of marriages are still between 1st or 2nd cousins, they can barely get along and refrain from tribal fighting even in the smallest of cities of a few hundred thousand in population.

  65. Life-affirming words like Kids, Teens, Youths, Students…

    Good point. Other such words are Diversity, Vibrant, Colorful; Enriching, Educational, Community.

    All these things central to the health of a people? well too bad whitey, these things now they belong to Diversity!

    So it is difficult to talk about the central things that make up a community, because these things have all been coded and weighted and mis-used, and now what is meant by the word community?

    What is the color that we add to our lives to enrich them to make them vibrant and fulfilling and meaningful?

    Every single one of those words is weighted and ‘sensitive’ and its meaning is now dependent on the political context: to use the awful awkward phrase, their meaning is who / whom.

    (A note on that phrase. A commenter on Sailer pointed out that it is terribly awkward. It is of course from the Russian where its declensions are clearer in their meanings. But in English, even for the fully initiated — it is a roadblock every time it is used.)

  66. Camlost…. that’s not Pakistan🙂

    Lol, yeah, but like anything Klan-related it is vastly overstated, right? Less than 3,000 blacks lynched in 90 years, with probably over 2,000 whites lynched during that same period.

    When Saddam Hussein mustard gassed his tribe’s enemies in Southern Iraq he killed over 200,000 in 6 months once and a huge percentage of them were of African ancestry.

  67. This latest disaster, the kidnapping and torturing or the mentally disabled white teenager, at the hands of four black ADULTS.

    Obviously it is on everyone’s mind. It is comparable in its awfulness to the Christian Newsom murders and the Wichita massacre; and perhaps less awful in that no one was killed.

    But it is as graphic and obscene in its awfulness. And that awfulness measurement cannot be quantified.

    The picture of the poor young man, bound and terrified in the corner like an animal.

    The case is different in that the crime was posted online.

    And these are different times.

    It is not going to go away, like those two other cases did. Our resident As the World Turns disciple in a recent comment was skeptical that things had changed. But consider the reaction that we are seeing to this case.

    I don’t think that the RAGE is quantifiable, or that it is going to go away.

    (Incidentally i do not know the victim’s name off the top of my head, at the current time.)

  68. Everyone is upset, and most commenters know that What can you say?

    But the point i wanted to make though, about this case in Chicago, before having my dinner, is that the Chicago PD’s handling of it, besides being a disgrace? is a misread on their part, of the anger of the public at large.

    They think that they can downplay this, as a bunch of “youths” but they cannot. They made themselves look like the worst of despicable idiots, in the eyes of everyone.

    And how ‘poetic’ that this occurs, now, in Chicago, with Obama’s legacy.

  69. I’m guessing law enforcement in Chicago will attempt to drop the hate crime portion of the charges against those 4 very soon, possibly under the guise that it will be an easier burden of prosecution without them.

  70. What’s the resistance of jurisdictions to slapping blacks with hate crime charges? It’s not like there is any desire to personally protect them. Is it for the sake of skewing national hate crime stats away from representing reality?

  71. What’s the resistance of jurisdictions to slapping blacks with hate crime charges?

    Local law enforcement bodies don’t want to raise the ire of the NAACP and the DoJ because it opens up a sh*t storm of scrutiny on everything they are doing, kinda like in Ferguson where Darren Wilson was exonerated as 100% within police procedure but outside bodies have come in and inspected every aspect of what Ferguson PD is doing for “disparate impact.” As a cop you just wanna do your job and go home, not inherit 50% more BS red tape and second guessing.

    It’s a real pain in the backside for law enforcement in terms of paperwork, interviews from internal affairs or dispatched SJW do-gooders from Washington, the bad press… you name it.

    The NAACP’s goal is to always protect the SUVS (special unique victim status) of blacks, of course. Seeing some blacks convicted of hate crimes undermines that.

    And it causes upticks in crime because then the “youths” get emboldened and their officers can’t even make a simple carjacking arrest without the whole “community” pushing up with video cameras.

    Plus the paid Soros agitators come at some point, and that could be especially onerous to law enforcement in a highly dense urban area like Chicago.

  72. Until this kid’s parents come to the fore with venomous outrage firing from their mouths then this is just the kind of “false flag” that will cement “hate crimes” legislation in stone at the behest of a dulled “white” mass.

    Charge these four niggers with kidnapping and torture and whatever other crime they have committed.

    “We” don’t need more “thought police” creating laws that tell us that niggers murder and maim white people because they’re white.

    Don’t be fooled. This display of nigger savagery is going to be the pretext to banish the word “nigger.”

    This is Totalitarianism in the act.

    That’s how this mind game rolls.

  73. Nikcrit…

    You are insensitive to a real blood libel. And not just in regard to the Jew, but the nigger too. Two of the premier perpetuating self-annihilators don’t even exist to you. What one calls this phenomenon is not up to you or the Jew or the nigger too.

    “It” is an insensitivity to a blood libel I call desire for radical autonomy.

    And LBF doesn’t get it because he is not white Supremacy.

    And Elk and PA do not understandi this and are believed by the dummies.

    Yet, I’m relieved so see a blood libel so clearly.

    So who shall pay dearly for such hypersensitivity?

  74. Who has actually watched the entire 30 minute video though?

    That is different than reading about it. I saved it before the system purges it.

    I will describe it. There’s a white man duct-taped in a corner of a white room. His mouth is restrained but his hands and feet are free.

    There’s a negro woman smoking a cigar or blunt. Then there are 2 nigger men and another negress in room insulting the captive. The nigs are rooting one another on.

    They make no effort to hide their faces. Her name is right on top of the video, Brittany Herring. One of the male negros is named Kareem.

    Most of this video is just niggers jive-talking and playing to each other and the camera. They are eating red hot cheetos.

    The whole thing takes place in a white apartment with exterior windows, shades drawn, during daytime. The room appears empty.

    This video does not show serious torture. These niggers are all high or drunk and like children. They can’t focus on anything. If they really wanted to inflict pain and humiliation, they could have.

    It is more like giving some ghetto ADHD teens some weed, booze and a white captive and shooting some video.

  75. O.T.@peterike,

    The other day, you went off on a riff re. Jews in rock and roll—- noting how they’re a limited presence as public performers, but huge in prominent behind-the-scenes roles as moguls and also over-represented as critics….

    Anyhow, you mentioned Lou Reed. So this is my excuse to post a rather obscure, late-era Lou Reed song from one of my favorite albums of his, which is also not part of his more renowned discography:

  76. Nikcrit, one thing I’ve noticed about your commenting over the years is when it comes to black violence, particularly black on white, you like to change the subject.

  77. This video does not show serious torture. These niggers are all high or drunk and like children. They can’t focus on anything. If they really wanted to inflict pain and humiliation, they could have.

    What about the part when that negress sliced open his scalp? They also made death threats throughout … could you imagine that for 24-48 hours? Not knowing when or if you were going to be killed. Also, he wasn’t released… he escaped! What were they planning to do with him?

  78. What about the part when that negress sliced open his scalp? They also made death threats throughout … could you imagine that for 24-48 hours? Not knowing when or if you were going to be killed. Also, he wasn’t released… he escaped! What were they planning to do with him?

    Seconded.

    Give me a fucking break, that it’s not “serious” torture.

    You can always imagine worse things that can be done to someone. But that is not really the point.

    That he was LIKELY to have been killed, but for how it played out, is IN ITSELF “serious” torture.

    I have not watched it, and nor will i.

  79. Let’s not forget that this young man was mentally retarded and these fucking savages knew that. They kidnapped, bound and tortured a retarded white man for 1-2 days. If this happened to a retarded black girl could you imagine the outrage? Yet, this will slip into the memory hole like the rest of the savage black on white crime that the media turns a blind eye toward.

  80. The humiliation aspect of that mentally disabled man’s ordeal, is devastating and crushing, to the soul.

    It is THAT that will remain with him, for the rest of his life, even and especially given his developmental issues.

    But as far as “serious” torture? yeah the idiot nogs who did it, are not going to come up with medieval inventions that require sophisticated levers and mechanics. That’s not how they roll.

    Exposing someone’s scalp, and then “ashing” into it, and the toilet water. That is every bit very real torture.

    Would it be preferable to having your body broke on the rack? Why, yes it would.

    But being overpowered by a gang of enemies and tied up and beaten and cut up, for hours and days, and expecting more of the same likely unto death. That meets every reasonable conception of what is torture.

  81. “The humiliation aspect of that mentally disabled man’s ordeal, is devastating and crushing, to the soul.

    It is THAT that will remain with him, for the rest of his life, even and especially given his developmental issues.”

    Actually though, it is possible and even likely that his developmental issues will be an asset, in his psychological recovery.

  82. What did Tom Wolfe call humiliation, the fate worse than death, or something like that.

    A mentally disabled person is not going to have the same aspirational archetypes hovering around his head, so he might not have to come to terms with what was done to him, in the same way.

  83. This should be a sentinel event in race relations as Obama closes out his term in office. Those of us on the alt-right have long known the truth about black crime and violence, but this recorded torture session has forced all to see and reckon with it.

    This crime also shows us that once again, we on the alt-right are a step ahead of the MSM and they are now following our lead.

  84. Again Elk, you have to watch it and see for yourself.

    These negros were just as retarded. Imagine a retard high on weed and drunk, who hates whites. He was hit occasionally, after long intervals of drinking and music. He was not the center of attention most of the time.

    As a WN, you should be trained in a certain way. Cops see this sort of thing all the time.

    If you go to prison as a WN, you will be tortured. The guards may put you in a cell full of niggers or spics. You may be set up. This is especially true if you kill a cop. It is not uncommon for cop killers to be beat up in jail then beat up in prison.

  85. You all are missing the psychoptics… You are all missing how this event will lead to a further suppression of the white man’s free will and the delicious irony that the anti-wS will gobble up as he witnesses a call for “hate crime” charges by those who just yesterday were against “hate crimes” legislation because it is THOUGHT POLICING. And then amidst this desperate outcry will be references back to Trump mocking the handicapped reporter and the “torture” at Abu Graib and the whirlwind of handwringing needed to usher in some really new and nasty anti-white Supremacist edicts.

  86. I want to feel a mediated BURNING HATRED from this white boy’s parents or it’s not really real.

    If they finally get on demanding tougher “hate crime” laws against the handicapped or excoriate those who express more outraged disgust for these despicable niggers than they would ever even contemplate…

    Then it is FALSE FLAG whether it really happened or not.

  87. Facebook took down Stefan Molyneux’s podcast about the #BLMKidnappings!

    This is simply amazing. They are losing the argument on multiple fronts so they are resorting to outright censorship. I have been following the alt-right since the early years of the Obama administration but I never thought we would impact the discourse to the point where our opponents would simply give up arguing and start trying to shut us down. Oh my, how they’ve grown fat and lazy from holding the megaphone too long. They are losing and they hate us for it.

    “When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” – Tyrion Lannister

  88. MGE, I am reliving an intense “rhyming of history.” Everything we’re witnessing now I saw when Communism was getting overthrown while it all looked hopeless. The cracks in the narrative, the authorities doubling-down, the fear and the conviction among the resistance, and most significantly: the lie that’s backed by limitless state violence vs the truth that overcomes it.

    In c. 1980 I was an 11-year-old kid in a sea of a million faces marching in Warsaw, and I am right back at it today.

  89. ^ whoops I meant to link to the image, not the full imgur post.

    Facebook apparently has been directed by the German government to censor what it deems “hate speech” and the convoluted rule system for determining such has been leaked to a German newspaper. Behold, the twisted leftist mind in all it’s totalitarian glory.

    For instance, saying “fucking Muslims” is not allowed, as religious affiliation is a protected category. However, the sentence “fucking migrants” is allowed, as migrants are only a “quasi protected category” – a special form that was introduced after complaints were made in Germany. This rule states that promoting hate against migrants is allowed under certain circumstances: statements such as “migrants are dirty” are allowed, while “migrants are dirt” isn’t.

    http://international.sueddeutsche.de/post/154543271930/facebooks-secret-rules-of-deletion

    Why is the left always trying to control speech? You will never find a similar impulse on the right. That should tell you something.

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” – Voltaire

  90. elk says: “nikcrit, i don’t know if you are still interested in the AR as a phenomena, but if so, i think the best ‘sample’ of it is not here amongst the middle-aged, but at Daily Stormer.

    That is the biggest AR site. Anglin has yet another definitive article on the meta-politics of the AR,

    http://www.dailystormer.com/purity-tests-are-absolute-poison-to-the-alt-right/

    If there is a more insightful (and current) writer about the emerging White politics, particular to America, i don’t know who it would be.

    I link to that article because sums up a feeling about a post i wanted to make, about the culture of the AR. My thoughts are a little different, but that article would be a starting point.”

    elk, my quick, immediate gut feeling from the article was distaste; I’m probably incapable of seeing things the way the author does by birthright; probably because I don’t feel a ‘lack of white identity’ which is sort-of prerequisite to what you say moved you about the piece; all the WWII symbolism and brandishment is distasteful to me and empty of emotion. I don’t feel offended; i feel it’s useless —– but if it’s point is to disengage ‘me and mine’ it succeeds.

    I really believe in my many-to-many age ‘everything goes’ treatises about modern times: IOW: the future holds both Dailiy Stormer type social scenarios AND more multi-kulti generational maturities; modern tech has made both approaches eminently possible, viable this very minute.

    IDK. I think racial/ethnic/political and cultural detente will manifest in some form of multiple interest groups gaining multiple interests and concessions. It never ends. also, history isn’t written so one-sided anymore; the many-to-many media age has brought in many-to-many revised historical record. So, these testosterone-filled manifestos like the one you reference in the Daily Stormer eroticize a past record that probably never was exactly as it was described and that is quite impossible nowadays —- at least on a mass level.

    Caucasians are about, what, one-sixth or one-seventh of the world’s population? That creates challenges, though white eminence is guaranteed through its being an idealized norm and its pre-eminent cultural and technological denouements upon the rest of the world.

    That’s how the relatively privileged outlier outcast see it —– though that perspective, i realize, is probably of some self-interested conceit itself.

  91. Hmmm. . . I’ve always thought of Dailystormer as a kind of tongue-in-cheek AR site, more about shock jocking, spicy memes and kek and all that (I think I may be dating myself here).

  92. “Nikcrit, one thing I’ve noticed about your commenting over the years is when it comes to black violence, particularly black on white, you like to change the subject.”

    MGE, STFU; I’d bet I deal with —— directly and bureaucratically —– more ‘black violence’ than anyone who regularly comments on this blog.

    Please spare me your neophyte reactionary right earnestness of late; it’s painful having to take it in indirectly here.

  93. Hmmm. . . I’ve always thought of Dailystormer as a kind of tongue-in-cheek AR site, more about shock jocking, spicy memes and kek and all that (I think I may be dating myself here).

    That stuff (spicy memes etc) IS the medium.

    The tongue-in-cheek aspect of it all is dealt with in touchstone article, A Normie’s Guide to the Alt-Right.

    When we say that we have to gas the jews, do we really mean that we have to gas the jews? well it depends.

    It is a pretense that we can do without violence and or the threat of it. We can’t.

    Disclaimer: Free Speech obtains

  94. I really believe in my many-to-many age ‘everything goes’ treatises about modern times: IOW: the future holds both Dailiy Stormer type social scenarios AND more multi-kulti generational maturities; modern tech has made both approaches eminently possible, viable this very minute.

    This society is already not working because of the reality of race.

    Those who would like to live in an egalitarian utopia, with the politics of classical liberalism (h/t Daily Shoah), will be denied their dream, because the realities of race play out in their idealized paradise: currently they play out with aggression on the white man.

    The realities of race are biological and primary, they can’t be transcended by a social paradigm. Or rather: they are the social paradigm.

    The realities of race is that a sharing living environment is not a stable arrangement. The races in a shared living space are in conflict to the extent that they exist.

  95. The Races are what they are to the extent that they assert (species) dominance in their living space.

    That is what Race is.

    In this sense, Race IS a social construct. Race is both social construct AND biological reality. The idea that it being a social construct precludes its biological reality is in error.

    **************

    So asking people not to assert the interest of their Race is denying the existence of their race, and it is effectively genocide.

    Calling what is going on genocide is difficult because genocide to most people means machetes and limbless bodies in Africa. But whatever.

    As a tactic, complaining about white genocide seems crazy. Just live your life, man!

  96. In correct formal terms of logic and biology, White Genocide is utterly true, and simple to demonstrate.

    However it doesn’t work as a meme. It seems hysterical.

    Go get a blowjob. — TS, to AJ suffering from ‘depression’

  97. If I were black I wouldn’t feel like talking about black on white violence either. I’ve never been the victim of black violence and take many precautions to avoid it.

  98. If I were black, I wouldn’t apologize for black crime, since I didn’t do it. I also would not tell white people how to punish violent criminals, either. I think that is the tactic Nikcrit is taking.

  99. MGE, STFU; I’d bet I deal with —— directly and bureaucratically —– more ‘black violence’ than anyone who regularly comments on this blog.

    Please spare me your neophyte reactionary right earnestness of late; it’s painful having to take it in indirectly here.

    Lol please wasn’t it you, on some other thread, who chastised commenters here for not disavowing some serial killer from the 1970’s? Yet now when we are discussing this here and now atrocity your contribution to the discussion is … a Lou Reed video? Either that’s just poor etiquette or it’s a passive agressive attempt to derail the discussion from something you have admitted in the past you don’t like to talk about.

  100. MGE, the Lou Reed vid was in ref. to specific citing of Reed by peterike in a thread earlier in the week re. Jews in pop music biz..

    But the larger point is it’s absurd to imply I avoid b-on-w violence: I’ve readily conceded it statistically and have anecdotally noted my PERSONAL ENCOUNTERS with it vocationally.

    So please don’t utilize me and my positions as part of your recent overzealous rightist posturing, OK?😝

  101. I have no control over violent white nationalists. I don’t believe peaceful blacks like Nikcrit have any control over violent ones.

  102. I’ll admit to not having much anger toward criminals who kill police officers. Criminals are basically at war with law enforcement and killing your enemy is the objective. This is also always done in the heat of battle. Because I am law abiding, I generally support the police, but I would rather live in a society where they were not necessary.

  103. I actively cheer the justice of an anti-White cuck killed by blacks. Example:

    http://freewestmedia.com/2016/12/24/pro-black-white-journalist-stabbed-to-death-by-black-robbers/

    In life Steven Otter castigated his fellow whites for their “misperception” of black crime in South Africa. Yet in one of those harsh racial ironies the country is famous for, he was stabbed to death by two black robbers in his home on Reconciliation Day 16 December 2016, dying in the arms of his coloured partner, Nathalie

  104. “I actively cheer the justice of an anti-White cuck killed by blacks. Example:”

    I don’t revel in the ironies that befall liberal scolds; i don’t think i’m status-signaling or indulging sanctimony or whatever form of secondary self-serving indulgence one might partake….. i just think that life itself is humbling, and sooner or later we all succumb to our personal-brand perfidies and conceits, so hold your laughs, cuz eventually one will be on you.

    “No one get out of this shite alive’, is my halfrican mantra.

    By the way, re. the black-on-white torture case; msm is picking up, duly reporting that the defendants were held without bail, chastised by the judge who said he was confused that these defendants actually held jobs and other ‘responsible’ adult duties yet still allegedly committed this act, and noted that prosecutors amended the basic charges by adding ‘hate-crime’ stipulations or whatever.

    (see, i hate this circumstances in which it seems i’m ‘defending’ the black criminals or whatever, when in fact all i’m doing is saying the typical ironic double standard (which i, in fact, often call out myself) is NOT manifesting itself here, therefore saving MGE from making even more charges that are all at once scurrilous, sanctimonious and false.

    And by the way MGE: I’ve said several time that one of the most painful and shameful things for me is to have to deal with cowardly assaults of black-on-white, even sometimes big teen males jumping younger, smaller females.

    There is a difference between not liking some unfortunate fact of life and AVOIDING acknowledging its existence, despite your slanderous conflation of those two things when discussing my commenting tendencies.

  105. — “No one get out of this shite alive

    When you have kids that is no longer true. Or nieces/nephews, or simply solidarity with your people.

    — I don’t revel in the ironies that befall liberal scolds

    In the South African cuck’s case, I am not “reveling” in the neener-neener sense (OK, who am I kidding? — of course I am). But I am also affirming the working-out of justice. Had he not been killed, it’d have been a score for injustice.

  106. Nikcrit if four white men kidnapped and tortured a retarded black girl and live streamed it, the response from the media and the white house would be much much different.

  107. In the South African cuck’s case, I am not “reveling” in the neener-neener sense (OK, who am I kidding? — of course I am).

    Hahhaha yes!
    Yes life is short and none of us gets out alive, all the more reason to delight in the downfall of our enemies

  108. “Nikcrit if four white men kidnapped and tortured a retarded black girl and live streamed it, the response from the media and the white house would be much much different.”

    Ok, but you imply that i want to underplay that fact in some way. But I don’t. I likely filed that Lou Reed clip in reply to a peterike riff before i was even cognizant of the current topic in the comment threat at that point. You just presumed that since i was black and interjected a b-on-w tangent with a lou reed video that i was racially filibustering in order to change the course of the discussion, as if i’m some kind of apologist for black criminal who torture white teens. Tell me, if instead of me and my Lou Reed distraction, someone else —- say, elk, posted a music-related vid and cited the earlier thread in which the subject was raised, would you have presumed he was trying to move the discussion away from the b-on-w attack? No, you would not have and you know it.

    I suggest you refine the edge of your recent reactionary radicalization in terms of the caliber of comments it yields; you were once better than that.

  109. “When you have kids that is no longer true. Or nieces/nephews, or simply solidarity with your people.”

    In the sense I intended, it is true. And it’s humbling, too.

    And that is not intended as insult of ‘you and yours,’ however we conceive of it for purposes of debate, in any way whatsoever.

    In the grand theoretical sense, we are all ever so existentially frail.

  110. one thing in the reporting of the b-on-w hate crime story: i noticed on an update during one of those NBC national newsbreaks, network anchor Lester Holt, a mulatto, seemed to be going out of his way to note the ethnic background of the defendants and the race of the victim, and then verbally emphasizing the decision by prosecutors to add ‘hate crime’ charges to the basic criminal charges, etc.

    I don’t believe that the disproportionate crime stats among races on a aggregate level is done for reasons of suppression; I believe it’s done for the sake of promoting NABALT. (I, for one, have some self-interest in my appreciating that fact; but in reply to Lara’s statement above, I in fact DO feel some complicity to that, umm, ‘disproportion in the aggregate’ and that perhaps is why i’m currently doing what I do for a living. That, though I get the point she’s making and agree with it in terms of principle and rights.

  111. Nitkrit profits from not talking about nigger violence. The fact is, he doesn’t want any white men to wake up.

    If they did, his access to white women and white civilization will disappear. He knows any proper nationalist will kick him out, unless he proves his worth to the white race.

    Sometimes….sometimes….the Aryan Brotherhood will let a yellow mulatto in. But even there, the AB requires proof of loyalty. That means a nigger scalp. Betraying the black race in an unforgivable fashion. Something of that sort.

    White men have no middle ground between white genocide and liberal slavery. We expect no loss of anyone who associates with us.

  112. Ok, but you imply that i want to underplay that fact in some way. But I don’t. I likely filed that Lou Reed clip in reply to a peterike riff before i was even cognizant of the current topic in the comment threat at that point…. I suggest you refine the edge of your recent reactionary radicalization in terms of the caliber of comments it yields; you were once better than that.

    The only time you level that accusation against me is when I bring up the topic of black on white violence, but yeah maybe you are right that I’ve held your feet to the fire in a way that I wouldn’t for say elk. Then again you occupy the plurality of the commenting bandwidth on this forum, so you put yourself out there for it.

    I was merely pointing out the fact that you tend to change the subject when black on white violence comes up, which none of the other commenters do. I can’t prove but that’s my sincere impression from reading your comments off and on for 8 years or so. I furthermore pointed out that you seemed puzzled by the collective lack of outrage toward that 1970’s serial killer who killed interracial couples, yet when it came the kidnapping and torture of a retarded white kid, you couldn’t be bothered, and in fact, hijacked the thread to carry on a private discussion about Lou Reed from a previous thread. (My comments on the other hand were directly related to PA’s post).

    Why don’t you just admit it – the sight of that poor retarded white boy being tortured just doesn’t move you the way it does for us, does it? For you, by your own admission, it causes you shame on behalf of black people. I can’t speak for the rest of the commenters here, but for me and my family, it is white hot rage.

    Anyway, I just love your Freudian slips. This one was almost as good as the one months back; I’m sure PA could dig it up if he felt like it.

  113. I don’t believe that the disproportionate crime stats among races on a aggregate level is done for reasons of suppression; I believe it’s done for the sake of promoting NABALT.

    In other words, propaganda.

    I was listening to the Daily Shoah about the #BLMKidnappings and one of the TRS guys pointed out that the media runs cover for blacks, because they know that if the truth about the extent of black crime was covered proportionally to it’s impact on society, there would be hell to pay. Journalists are overwhelmingly liberal and understand that it is their duty to carry on the narrative in order to be one of the “good whites.” They are willing to turn a blind eye to it all because they believe in the multi-cult and they think it is their job to make sure the wrong kind of whites don’t get uppity and stand in the way of it, even if it means fudging here and there.

    Basically most of the MSM are Walter Duranty’s when it comes to black on white violence.

  114. I believe suppression of black crime statistics is done entirely to protect the fragile ego of many talented tenth blacks. Law enforcement are already well aware of crime statistics.
    I think many people are, too. The local news generally just reports the news, and that includes plenty of black crime. Even being aware of the higher crime levels of blacks, I don’t automatically fear them or am suspicious of them unless they give me a reason. I spend plenty of time around black people and have never been the victim of a crime. I do stay out of the blackest neighborhoods, though.

  115. I brashly take the credit for reintroducing “Talented Tenth” into public discourse. I pushed it at Chuck’s GLP six years ago and I believe that it filtered up to Sailer and beyond.

  116. — most of the MSM are Walter Duranty’s when it comes to black on white violence (MGE)

    As George Orwell indicted the left wing media seventy years ago: “once a whore, always a whore.”

  117. “yet when it came the kidnapping and torture of a retarded white kid, you couldn’t be bothered, and in fact, hijacked the thread to carry on a private discussion about Lou Reed from a previous thread. (My comments on the other hand were directly related to PA’s post).”

    Nonsense; I said I likely didn’t even know what the prevailing subject was when i dropped peterike that Lou Reed link; and I didn’t carry on a ‘private discussion’ mid-topic; I replied with a link and a single comment to peterike’s earlier one-comment citing of Reed. And FWIW, I feel as much angst for the tortured white kid as I do for any of Hope-Franklin’s victims (btw, I wasn’t pitting Hope-Franklin against the white-kid torturers; i was making cracks about how morally impoverished it was for Ryu here to be explicitly suggesting that Hope-Franklin be branded ‘a hero.’

    Yet you ignored those supposedly fussy details and used my words to claim some kind of blatant blackity-black racial filibustering on my part.

    It may be a conceited on my part, but I laugh when people accuse me of being some kind of racial loyalist in these debates. Many of my black colleagues accuse me of being overly conservative and overly critical of fellow ‘minos.’ They imply I’m at times a apologist for whites

    If you’re going to be that vague and crude a racial polemicist, we might as well just fahgitaboutit, eh?

  118. In regards to the torture/kidnapping in Chicago, one smart listener caught CBS radio purposely presenting the incident like this, as if it was a white hate crime against blacks:

    The viral video of a beating and knife attack in Chicago suggests the assault had racial overtones. CBS’s Dean Reynolds tells us the victim is described as a mentally-challenged teenager.

    In the video he is choked and repeatedly called the n-word. His clothes are slashed and he is terrorized with a knife. His alleged captors repeatedly reference Donald Trump. Police are holding four people in connection with the attack. [Emphasis added]

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/cbs-radio-deceptively-implies-chicago-torturers-were-white-trump-supporters-victim-was-black/

  119. p.s. to MGE: FWIW, what you accused me of was in no way whatsoever a “Freudian slip.”

    Look it up; I think you were accusing me of a hypocrisy, lamely.

  120. I wouldn’t be surprised if some black men enjoy having a scary reputation. I feel like some of them play this up. I personally prefer being the lower class/rougher person in a room full of more refined/smarter/classier people. I definitely prefer that than the opposite.

  121. I wouldn’t be surprised if some black men enjoy having a scary reputation. I feel like some of them play this up.

    As a group, a significant percentage of blacks do enjoy the reputation of edginess and toughness, they bask in it. But then they get upset later if accused of being unhinged or quick to violence.

    They want to ride the wave but don’t want to pay the price.

  122. Qucik O.T. tangent relating to the nikcrit-MGE tangent:

    PA,
    When you and others in the alt-right use the term ‘blackity-black’ in a cynical or semi-derogatory way, is this famous clip the founding-stock source of the term?

  123. Why don’t you just admit it – the sight of that poor retarded white boy being tortured just doesn’t move you the way it does for us, does it?

    With all due respect, MGE – is Nikcrit really the person to go after for this ^^ above? He and I give each other put sh*t on a lot of things just for fun, but I’d never expect anyone else to be moved by my particular hardships in the same way that it hits home for me. Wanting others to advocate for (and sympathize with) you is contrary to human nature in general – the alt right never would’ve formed if we didn’t have a genuine “gap” in our recent need to stop being pansy pushover stepping stools and assert the rational self-advocacy that we’ve empowered and encouraged others to have.

  124. “Wanting others to advocate for (and sympathize with) you is contrary to human nature in general”

    True enough, but the particular irony in my spat with MGE is that he’s almost assuming it’s self-evident and beyond even requiring explanation that my sympathies toward atrocity victims are racially accorded.

    In fact, I sometimes feel guilty for that larger-yet-typically-human indifference I feel toward such unfortunate souls —— but it’s not then further parsed by whether or not I share any racial heritage with them.

    But how does one defend or convince from there? If I don’t ‘get it,’ it’s probably from being biracial. I mean, take someone like Ryu here: he’s down with the white retarded victim in Detroit because the perps were despicable ‘minos’—– so MGE assumes I’m upset with Joe Hope Franklin but NOT the scum in Detroit because of hometeam racial fealty?

    Actually, while feeling intermittent indifference to overall societal violence, I feel unasked-for pity and scorn for those who could possibly commit such acts and a more dull but solid contempt for those who could only disdain such acts if it coincided with their particular racial ‘side.’

    That’s what’s tripping me out with MGE’s racially partisan disgust here; the boy has declined over the years. He and Ryu are putting their racial allegiance ahead of their overall humanity.

  125. Camlost, I don’t expect or want nikcrit to empathize; it’s just that he is always claiming to be neutral in these debates when in fact his biases are revealed by what he chooses to focus his outrage on. How many times in the past has he said something like, “oh geeze guys to be honest I’m well past the age when I really care about this stuff, and it really doesn’t make sense for me as a biracial to take sides, I just want to inject my neutral, rational opinion in on all this crazy tribal BS,” but then as soon as a topic like miscegenation comes up, well that certainly raises his hackles to the point where he takes the discussion to totally irrational and personal domains.

    Yeah overall it’s a silly exercise but no more so than the topics you two spar over.

  126. “I just want to inject my neutral, rational opinion in on all this crazy tribal BS,” but then as soon as a topic like miscegenation comes up, well that certainly raises his hackles to the point where he takes the discussion to totally irrational and personal domains.”

    I think I make room for both the racial partisans and non-partisans.

    How many other technically define ‘black men’ in America do you know who could hold forth with such dignified restraint on topics of race like I do with you and your Aryan brother Ryu?

  127. “…have you ever looked into whether they have a pill for narcissism?”

    Elk, the context is I’m giving MGE some shite per our ongoing tiff earlier upthread.

    But, if you find that irrelevant, the answer to your question is ‘no.’

  128. p.s. to MGE: FWIW, what you accused me of was in no way whatsoever a “Freudian slip.”

    Look it up; I think you were accusing me of a hypocrisy, lamely.

    I know what a Freudian slip is – if you look carefully, you’ll find it 🙂

  129. I think I make room for both the racial partisans and non-partisans.

    How many other technically define ‘black men’ in America do you know who could hold forth with such dignified restraint on topics of race like I do with you and your Aryan brother Ryu?

    True

  130. MGE, I’ll accept you as an Aryan brother. What a great compliment! It may be the best someone can give a nationalist.

    It is natural to favor some more than others. Everyone does this. A family values family members over outsiders. Jews value jew lives and jew values over anything alien.

    Many WNs have not commited to this yet. It is a form of corruption or nepotism, but a necessary one.

    Only the racial partisans will take this thing as far as necessary to make it worth it. America was integrated by the gun-barrel and bayonet.

    Our mino friends didn’t seem to mind violence then. How many whites died, and continue to die, so minos have their integration?

  131. Steve Harvey on his own show cracking himself up making jokes about how neither white or black women want to date Asian men:

  132. Steve Harvey lacks the personal power to be a racist.

    The outrage has already begun there. Very soon, you’ll see him bow and scrape before his jew masters.

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