The Scorpion And The Frog

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  1. Aesop’s Fable:

    A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, “How do I know you won’t sting me?” The scorpion says, “Because if I do, I will die too.”

    The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp “Why?”

    Replies the scorpion: “It’s my nature…”

  2. I nominate Phil Collins’ In The Air Tonight as the official song of the Trump Triumph and the coming Great Rectification.

    “I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh Lord
    And I’ve been waiting for this moment for all my life, oh Lord
    Can you feel it coming in the air tonight, oh Lord, oh Lord

    Well if you told me you were drowning, I would not lend a hand
    I’ve seen your face before my friend, but I don’t know if you know who I am
    Well I was there and I saw what you did, I saw it with my own two eyes
    So you can wipe off that grin, I know where you’ve been
    It’s all been a pack of lies

    And I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh Lord
    Well I’ve been waiting for this moment for all my life, oh Lord
    I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh Lord
    Well I’ve been waiting for this moment for all my life, oh Lord, oh Lord”

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  4. The moral to the story shouldn’t stop at the idea that the parasite “will” parasite, but that in its perpetuation is the host’s diabolical collusion

    “We” are the frogs that know the scorpion will sting us, BUT REFUSE to acknowledge said scorpion’s desire for annihilation. And it is with this stunted grasp of reality that scorpions perpetuate and frogs die out.

  5. Of course… Frogs can’t annihilate the scorpions and apparently frogs can’t hop away either. So we are talking retarded frogs.

  6. That pretty much says it all.

    I’m still giddy from the week’s events, tbh.

    I went to the gym this morning, and I had a couple of women pestering me to meet for lunch and come over today, but all I want to do is hunt down some progs, SJWs, and Hillary supporters and get in their face.

    Currently with some fellow deplorables in Newport Beach hunting down Hillary supporters. Time to pick a fight.

    We are just getting started.

  7. My message to my fellow Alt-Righters:

    This is no time for pulling punches, making peace, or being “nice” to the adversary.

    We won. Be relentless.

    No mercy. No quarter.

    Drive victory home.

    Total War.

  8. quick note: If Phil Collins is the score anthem for new white resurgence, you really will have tortured, mercilessly, this particular NAM nemesis…lol.

    Please! No Phil Collins music in my confined-NAM colony.

  9. “I don’t care anymore” is a much better anthem if a Phil Collins song is necessary. And played a lot less on radio.

  10. The Obama coalition is dead but the elite that assembled them is still in control of banking, education, entertainment, and media. Trump’s win is a beachhead to retaking or defanging those SJW-controlled territories.

  11. PA Love the comic! It’s your best yet!

    Camlost – you were right about the Democrats having a hard time finding white guys to occupy higher offices …. they are already floating Keith Ellison – a black MUSLIM!! – to head up the DNC. Oh please oh please let this happen

  12. Yeah Keith Ellison a Farrakhan associate… his appointment is going to resonate really well with unemployed machinists, auto workers and construction foreman in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania !! Smart move Democrats !!

    Also, that appointment may cause some Jews to finally leave the Democratic party as he is tight with some known holocaust deniers.

  13. PA – you should learn paint shop pro, fireworks or Gimp.

    You’d be able to create these designs 90% faster, and they’d be fully editable. There’s a small learning curve but even one of those “dummies” books could get you through pretty quickly.

    I taught myself flash, photoshop, fireworks and illustrator from books. Photoshop is expensive though. On any software just find someone you know who has a student ID and buy it online faxing in a copy of it, and you get the “academic” version for 85% off, but it still does everything.

  14. The pedo allegations about the content of Weiner’s laptop, about which NYPD strongly hinted and which may implicate some of the most powerful people in US politics, that stuff might not go away. There is a now notorious Besta Pizza in DC (I know that shopping strip on Connecticut Avenue very well — hang out in that area with my girlfriend in 1997) and other establishments that are creepy as fuck, to put it delicately. One of the implicated pizza shop owners was once voted one of the top 50 most powerful men in Washington, the only restaurateur on that list. Again, there has been too much documented for this go go away, if there is any truth behind the allegations.

    There is a blog (dcpizzagate.wordpress) that catalogs the evidence, if you have the stomach for some of the things they show there (nothing sexual or illegal to peruse, just disturbing).

    I don’t think it’s far-fetched to start seeing the wierdness of the past several decades in Western politics as in large part being tied to criminal perverts at highest levels of power, along with a lot of blackmail material controlling many politicians.

  15. Camlost, I have the full Adobe suite, and used Photoshop to modify the flames in that cartoon (I got them from public domain clip art) and to work with Soros’s head. Thanks for the suggestions about paint shop pro, fireworks or Gimp — I am not familiar with them, will look into them. I’m still best with pencil-on-paper, but not being a trained or professional artist, I like the digital media to correct mistakes or to tweak things.

  16. Check this out: it’s like this writer has been reading your posts the last few weeks; he literally makes some statements that sound like they were culled from posts here and at other familiar ‘alt-right’ sites….. You’re public image is being define, targeted and branded these days.

    And a lot of that is neatly tucked into the story’s nut graph; i.e., “chaos agents’ = “shit lords,” ditto re. the story’s ‘we won— fuck off,’ statement, which echoes a few of your, umm, tactical posits in posts of yours the last few days.

    It’s you and your movement’s zeitgeist moment. Better seize it…

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-alt-right-hails-its-victorious-god-emperor

  17. “Hey Mr C. Do you think Trump would’ve won the election w/o your world-famous and brilliantly incisive comments on AltRight sites?” He wouldn’t’ve even got passed round 1 of the Republican Primaries!

  18. From the New Yorker article by (((Andrew Marantz))),

    The alt-right is united less by ideology than by sensibility; a hallmark of that sensibility is a careful attunement to social norms, and a perverse delight in desecrating them.

    The social norms that he speaks of are anti-white.

    Those social norms are self destructive and suicidal. And they have been rejected.

    It is Marantz and his readers who are out of touch with the social norms. Have a look at a county by country map of the election results, and then consider who is to say, about social norms. The author acknowledges that norms can be swept aside,

    Trump connected to the segment of the population that was prepared to believe that racism was realism, misogyny was locker-room talk, inconvenient facts were media myths, and viciousness was the new normal. Just as surely as he has redrawn the electoral map, he has radically altered the Overton window. No Presidential candidate before him had ever mocked a disabled reporter, or bragged about his penis size during a debate. What kept every other candidate before him from stooping to these tactics, presumably, was deference to social norms. But norms can be swept aside.

    Functional social norms are to maintain and reinforce a healthy society and the people who comprise it; the social norms in place under Obama and the abortion Hillary, were a cover to take advantage of and abuse those people.

    Those social norms were a veneer of politeness and manners and a mask of hostility and aggression.

  19. From that same article,

    The alt-right rages against political correctness in the name of the First Amendment, but this is a canard. No alt-right dissident has been jailed for thought crimes. One of the innumerable ironies of this campaign was that the only credible threats to the free press—“If I become President, oh, do they have problems”—were uttered by Trump himself.

    This is some typical misrepresentation of reality.

    Dissident Alt Righters do face real consequences, including loss of livelihood, and how many of them are in jail in Europe? how many in Canada have been brought up in charges?

    In America they don’t put you jail, but you lose your job if you are not self-employed. Jimmy the Greek.

    And as for Trump being against the “free press” — as if the press is free, and not entirely contained with the financial and idealogical framework that allows for no dissent. Give me a break.

    The free press is not threatened by Trump, it is encouraged by him. The captive press is threatened by Trump, however.

  20. The attitude the The New Yorker would graft onto the psyche of Middle America, is one of subservience. As long as Middle America is conceding its traditions its living space, its way of life? the economy can be financialized and the chosen can live as fags in their trendy neighborhoods.

    They are glad to be living as privileged urbanites at the expense of others. That is their revenge fantasy.

  21. The alt right is no holds barred. It mostly consists of young men and can be too much for me. Most people, even people who voted for Trump, are not part of it. I stopped going on a black site (Very Smart Brothas) because the anti white rhetoric was too harsh. The lead writer recently wrote he wants Trump supporters to die. He meant it. People are much more polite on Facebook. People are also far more polite in real life. For some reason, you seem to be attracted to alt right sites, even though you are black, and there is plenty of racism on it. I am curious as to why.

  22. When the man asks Larry about Bill Clinton’s illegitimate half black son, he should have just told him to go asks Bill Clinton. The man also said he has no problem with mixed people, which is not the sign of someone who is extremely racist. People like this writer just are not ever going to like a certain type of white conservative man. I have a liberal Jewish family member who went on a Facebook rant against anyone who voted for Trump after the election. He has since settled down a little. I’ve accepted me and him are never going to like each other all that much. That’s life, live and let live.

  23. That New Yorker article was based on the author’s email correspondence with Vox Day. The only “branding” I am averse to is one that makes the Alt-Right look more moderate than it actually is.

    I also question the MSM’s power to brand anything. They threw all they had at Trump in an effort to brand him as a pussy-grabbing drunk uncle, and look who won.

  24. According to a post on Twitter, a member of the “captive media” (Al Jazeera America specifically) asked Trump a question, to which his answer was “You guys are out of business” and moved on.

  25. First time poster.

    The opposition will not stay this weak for long. The first 100 days of Trump’s reign will be key. Can he get enough good people in power to carry out his agenda before, like all Presidents before him, he gets stuck in the swamp of events and reactions?

    That said, if the opposition to him unifies before that, it forces far reaching decisions very quickly. Too early to predict that.

  26. We won a political victory but as with such victories in the past, the Left remains in control of cultural levers of power — albeit that control is slipping, as we’re witnessing with the case of the media. Still, they control education, entertainment, banking, organized religion.

    Agnostic has a good suggestion in his post this morning on how to leverage our newfound political power to strike a mortal blow against one of the Left’s loci of power: the entertainment industry. The idea is for Trump’s DOJ to go all-out in blowing the lid on and persecuting pedophilia rings in Hollywood, in tandem with other such rings like DC’s.

    This way, the argument goes, we’d abandon previous cultural conservatives’ failing strategy of going after the poz in individual movies etc., in favor of striking the fount of all of it by tainting the public’s reception of the entire industry as repellent.

  27. “Dissident Alt Righters do face real consequences, including loss of livelihood, and how many of them are in jail in Europe? how many in Canada have been brought up in charges?”

    Yes, IMO, the segment above that you cited was the msot egregious claim in that New Yorker piece; the fact that everyone here at this blog uses pseudonyms attests to that fact…. but i dissagree with both you, elk, AND this Marantz guy or whatever his name in that I don’t think Trump and/or the folk that voted for him were particularly racially inspired nor have a specific racial agenda; there’s another link that runs down how Trump’s decisive voters were whites who voted for Obama in ’08 and ’12; I realize that alone doesn’t negate a counterclaim re. race. But it’s a telling corrollary and with further delving may in fact serve as confirmation.

    In any case, from wee hours vantage point last night, just prior to calling the sandman, the similarities of the article to recent alt-right blog dogma, own to specific phrases, seemed striking.

    btw: here’s that other link re. overlapping Trump and Obama voters:

    http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/why-pres-obama-voters-went-for-trump-807529027990

  28. “Can he get enough good people in power to carry out his agenda before, like all Presidents before him, he gets stuck in the swamp of events and reactions?”

    I doubt it, ‘cuz he’s already triangulating right out of the gate: yesterday: declaring he’s going to ‘amend’ rather than ‘get rid of’ Obamacare, via tweaking the children-under-26 inclusion umbrella for coverage; so far, that’s the most overt one, but he’s jockeying hard on others:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801

    If there’s any chance to create an ideal two-headed political monster, like my hypothetical Sanders/Buchanan ticket, the time is now: you got the house, senate and oval office, with only a few filibustering and other obstructive avenues open to Dems; give the dems a few moderate bones (which Trump’s id was probably inclined to do or totally indifferent to to begin with) and the world is your alt-right oyster (or as close as you were ever going to get anyway, ‘cuz de shite is all an illusion, anyway, no?)

  29. One of the innumerable ironies of this campaign was that the only credible threats to the free press—“If I become President, oh, do they have problems”—were uttered by Trump himself.

    Wow, this is hilarious.

    Because having the MSM send over news releases to the Hillary campaing for “proofreading” prior to publication is surely no threat to the free press.

  30. Seeing the liberals on social media concern trolling that he’s going to let his supporters down but not delivering is funny, too.

    Exactly how many of them remembered a single Obama campaign promise 1 minute after he won the election? The whole “I’ll give you the most transparent regime in history” promise got blown to smithereens with his first piece of legislation.

    I think many liberals now are simply to young to understand how “plain ol’ politics” works, as Nikcrit phrased it the other day.

  31. Check this out: it’s like this writer has been reading your posts the last few weeks; he literally makes some statements that sound like they were culled from posts here and at other familiar ‘alt-right’ sites

    Yes, he reads this site and several others. Most of them do.

    These people are already known to us.

  32. “The whole “I’ll give you the most transparent regime in history” promise got blown to smithereens with his first piece of legislation.”

    I agree in terms of your claim being taken literally; but I wouldn’t place much real harm into his statement because 1) it was clearly campaign rhetoric of the sort that both ‘sides’ routinely tout and then forget about, and; 2) the claim itself was something that was nebulous in that it could never be quantified anyway; i.e., how exactly does one manifest ‘the most transparent ever”? I always felt the pushback on that was sorta a raw deal; it was my understanding that any covtert actions or policies he installed related to military driven foreign policy matters and the wole digital-age secrecy issues were something that didn’t really originate until the time he took office; i.e., it was technologically impossible for earlier presidents to even have to face that challenge.

  33. We have not won anything yet, LBF.

    Never underestimate the stupidity of the Americans. I predict very little change. To an American, 2 months is an eternity. They may forget that Trump is actually in office.

    WNs have been played, made “useful idiots” by Trump. He got our votes, but what have we gotten from him? Nothing, except perhaps a shot of some good feelings. Fundamentally, nothing has altered.

    This is where Thordaddy’s ideas become so important. A non-white supremacist will not do what is necessary. Half-measures will not work, not with our current demographic situation.

  34. I have no inclination to be “nice” to our enemies. That’s not me.

    All I want to do is laugh in their face and push the knife in deeper.

    Never let a solid victory go to waste.

  35. I agree with Ryu (my last two posts were basically saying the same thing) but not with his grim tone. Don’t discount the value of having our man at the top. We are now less afraid and that leads us to making good things happen, while they are now becoming more afraid.

  36. This is why reassuring liberals on Facebook or wherever that Trump is a nice guy who did lots of nice things for people is wrongheaded. For one, it’s bad PsyOps. Two, he’s ruthless, not nice, as far as his enemies are concerned.

  37. I stopped going on a black site (Very Smart Brothas) because the anti white rhetoric was too harsh. The lead writer recently wrote he wants Trump supporters to die. He meant it

    Lara, those Very Smart Bruvvas should thank their lucky stars they live in a white country instead chasing around bushmeat in the jungle. Such ingratitude!

  38. The lead writer recently wrote he wants Trump supporters to die. He meant it

    He has no idea what that really means, because he lives here and not one of the 60+ countries that blacks run for themselves.

  39. Trump is an opportunity, not a solution. — LBF

    Exactly… He is a vessel… A submarine-type mechanism far less corroded and rotted by anti-white Supremacy than most of the rest of the “elite” subversives… And Trump’a stealth gleams brightest where his enemy gets blinded by white Supremacy, REAL OR SELF-MANUFACTURED… Yet, where they match rust and corrosion, sure enough we will find the heated friction of rival degeneracies.

  40. Yeah Keith Ellison a Farrakhan associate… his appointment is going to resonate really well with unemployed machinists, auto workers and construction foreman in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania !! Smart move Democrats !!

    But he’s sure to envigorate those indolent Hispanic voters, right?!? Lol

  41. Check it out; nytimes.com columnist Frank Bruni’s been listening closely to Camlost.

    Here’s a link to the colum, preceded by a few choice quotes from it:

    Bruni: “Political correctness has morphed into a moral purity that may feel exhilarating but isn’t remotely tactical. It’s a handmaiden to smugness and sanctimony, undermining its own goals…..I worry about my and my colleagues’ culpability along these lines. I plan to use greater care in how I talk to and about Americans more culturally conservative than I am. That’s not a surrender of principle or passion. It’s a grown-up acknowledgment that we’re a messy, imperfect species.”

    here’s the full story:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/opinion/the-democrats-screwed-up.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

  42. And at the same time and outside and off the Trump train where most of “us” move, there is the perennial debate over the meaning of RACISM where both the alt-rite and its “enemy” stay subtly ensconced within the thesis/antithesis side of the Hegelian dialectic FOR THE PURPOSE of obscuring the SYNTHESIS.

    Your RACE is your Father…

    This is WHITE MAN’S WAY…

    Racism is IMMERSION INTO THE FATHER…

    Anti-racism IS HATRED for the father and the anti-racist of any color drips with hatred for their Father.

    PERIOD…

    No room for deconstruction or debate.

    Only room to DEFINE *your* RACISM.

  43. It’s a grown-up acknowledgment that we’re a messy, imperfect species. — Bruni

    One cannot pack much more thesis/anthesis to the obscuring of the synthesis in one culminating sentence.

  44. What Bruni does or does not recognize BECAUSE he is radically autonomous is that the messy, imperfect aspect of the species are HE AT THE “top” and that leaves the grown adults JUST STRUGGLY TO LIVE NORMAL.

  45. It has been instructive to see how weak, vulnerable, and confused our adversaries are in defeat.

    Who thought it would be so easy to crush them?

  46. thor, you’re blowing smoke again; you never, ever clarify why ‘objective supremacy’ can only be ‘white supremacy.’

    Typically, the dodge comes by you saying”: ‘you are the race of your father.” So, in my case, do i say i’m black (which is my druthers,anyway); and then some bf-wm progeny should say she is ‘white?’ Not one regular on this blog confidently knows your detailed position on those questions because you obscure the fuk out of them. If i’m wrong on that it’s not because any regular here ever publicly stated as much.

    Just answer those questions, without insulting me or anyone else, or claiming we’re ‘playig dumb,’ or indulging in ‘radical autonomy’ or whatever your distracting accusation might be in that given instant. And I did notice that you dodged, completely, my question, challenge and counter-theory to your ‘objective supremacism’ “muse-n-manifesto” last night.

  47. I’ve come to see TD as a navigational beacon. It just blinks inscrutably but you can be confident that it is pointing you in the right direction.

  48. Text edition of the complete “FBIAnon” here, the locus classicus of what has led to the Podesta DC child trafficking ring investigation:

    http://pastebin.com/hgW5q5Kx/

    Ironically, when 28 Sherman first clued me in to this, somehow I missed reading “Thread two” when the pedophile stuff was made explicit. So I had been telling people Bill’s gonna die before the end of the year, Hillary’s selling nuclear secrets to the Saudis, there’ll be declarations of war against us if it all comes out, etc.– but I missed or else forgot the pedo allegations.

    But at this point I even wonder: would I have believed FBIAnon on that, then, before all the shit in this Comet Ping Pong instagram came out? The creepy baby-selling “jokes”, “spiritcooking”, the Podestas’ cannibal art collections, etc.? I’m not even sure.

    There’s at least one other major reddit (?) anon, the “Hillary Insider Anon” (also claiming to be in the investigation of Hillary, not a Clinton “insider”), but I’ve only read one of apparently several threads this person has intermittently provided. This is the person who told them to look in the Podesta files for “cards”, which has become a big deal in the tie-in to the British girl Madeleine’s disappearance in Portugal.

    This stuff feels very real– incredible, but real. If the FBI, Putin, NYPD, and (FBIAnon claims he already knew, at least in part) Trump personally have/know this stuff, we are looking– even by FBIAnon’s “plan B”– at something which will not only kill the Clinton machine but be a World War-level culture shock. If America’s best and brightest are cannibal Satan worshippers, the Enlightenment is absolutely DEAD. We will see a true Reaction– and, baring some calamity, the hanging of dozens, hundreds, thousands of participants.

  49. The Clintons are a non-entity.

    The SJW’s and new generation of NAM democrats will soon cast them aside like week-old bread. They will want brown faces instead.

  50. If I could give a detailed account of any white boy’s will to Perfection, would he rebel or maximize his moral autonomy?

    Likewise, if I intend to never make “radical autonomy” concrete, will the white boy seek a sure solidness or make concrete “things” from delusional desires?

    “We” know those at the “top” are sexual degenerates WHO PERPETUATE nonetheless and their ruthlessness is thr necessary effect of deep sexual degeneracy.

    It is not a “sexual revolution,” but a sexually perverse annihilation from top to bottom and bottom to top (all buns intended).

  51. Nikcrit…

    What is YOUR aim?

    It is to keep me in this recursive debate where somehow “white (S)upremacy” never gets defined as a voluntary colllective of white men who believe in and therefore strive towards objective Supremacy, i.e., (P)erfection, except for in this particular instance where white Supremacy is ABSOLUTELY DEFINED… As say opposed to being defiled by false relations.

    You, as halfrican (s)uper”man,” are neither in or out of white Supremacy. Yet, neither are you indifferent. Mostly though, you are self-indulgently ignorant enjoying a radical autonomy of your own demise.

  52. PA – some compromise is necessary for the purposes of realpolitik, no?

    This stuff feels very real– incredible, but real. (Lucius)

    Hmmm… it doesn’t seem so to me. FBIAnon could have easily been a 4chan troll.
    with regards to the pizzagate stuff… it seems to be all smoke and no fire. I have no problem believing our elites are corrupt and in many cases incompetent, but satan worshipping pedophiles?

  53. I think Cam might be on to something. On Very Smart Brothas, one of the writers said the silver lining in this election is that the Democrats will stop taking the black vote for granted. They need to try to drum up the black turnout they got in 2008 and 2012. Clinton very well may be the last white Democratic candidate.

  54. This is why reassuring liberals on Facebook or wherever that Trump is a nice guy who did lots of nice things for people is wrongheaded. For one, it’s bad PsyOps. Two, he’s ruthless, not nice, as far as his enemies are concerned.

    But are they even listening to this “reassurance”? I’ve tried to engage 6 or 7 different liberal friends on Facebook regarding the election and they’re mostly in this catatonic rage:

    1. One friend (35yo male, Ethiopian engineer in NYC) who was droning on and on about micro-aggressions and how it deeply hurts when white people tell him he doesn’t sound black or comment on the texture of his hair. Had to defriend that sissy.

    2. One BernieBro friend who got very upset when I told him that non-whites didn’t give a rat’s patootie about Bernie (which is true) so no, the solution for the Democrats was not running Bernie instead. (We will remain friends)

    3. Another liberal Facebook friend who had a guy trying to come at me with a “but Trump didn’t disavow the KKK. He’s a very SWPL Jew who typically posts things making fun of Tim Tebow. I just tuned that one out, they were blubbering in a most unmanly fashion.

    4. My one liberal friend who could talk rationally – 40+ black guy who works in media production. I contribute to his sports blog. He was the only Hillary backer who could talk at a rational level. He even pointed out that rural White voters in stagnating economic areas probably should be turned off by Hillary’s globalist elitism.

  55. Lara that is such typical narcissistic black thinking. Always the put upon victim. “The democrats be takin us fo granit fam, sheeit!”

    The Democrats did everything they could to get the black vote. Bernie promised more gibsmedats and even let a BLM protester grab his mic at a rally. Hillary went as far as trotting out Mike Browns mom at the DNC, knowing full well how alienating that would be to white voters. She even went on black radio shows and scolded whit people for their privilege and implicit bias

    But at the end of the day blacks were to racist and/or lazy to vote for an old white lady who ran on Obama’s platform. Even kaepernick couldn’t be bothered

  56. Clinton very well may be the last white Democratic candidate.

    Part of the question is what do you need from you candidate?

    If you need someone who can build consensus, leverage 30 years of campaigning, stumping and influence peddling across the aisle and understand how to persuade your in-party rivals to back you, then your only choice is someone with proven negotiating skill and a true flair for politics like Bill or Hillary.

    But if all your party needs is a finger-wagging automaton to just rehash every grievance complaint that forms the bulk of your platform – well, NAM and “diversity” candidates can do that for themselves, and will demand those roles.

  57. Oh, and just wait until every Democratic candidate has to run through the #BLM gauntlet of questions such as “what are your racial blind spots” and “how should we address the continuing crisis of white privilege in the educational and justice systems”?

    It’s gonna be great.

    Don Lemon almost gave poor Bernie a heart attack when he awkwardly handled the blind spots question during the Democratic debate, then the old guy got demolished by the SJW’s in the next few days. LMAO

  58. And there was Martin O’Malley’s dooming moment when he said “all lives matter” (this was before “all” became a politicized anti-BLM statement) and then very awkwardly backtracked on it.

  59. “It just blinks inscrutably but you can be confident that it is pointing you in the right direction.”

    Ok, my blog host. I once could echo that sentiment, however vague itself. But lately I’m starting to feel like that proverbial bridge-buying chump by the river in Brooklyn every time he so kindly informs me of my theoretical perfidies..

  60. One can doubt the veracity of any online character. I’ve wondered about many commenters (not just here) if they’re extended-format trolls. In the end, it doesn’t matter. My position is to not take anything personally — “so what if someone is trolling?” — take ’em at face value. Their words are words after all, that stand or fall on their own merit.

  61. “Oh, and just wait until every Democratic candidate has to run through the #BLM gauntlet of questions such as “what are your racial blind spots” and “how should we address the continuing crisis of white privilege in the educational and justice systems”?…..It’s gonna be great.”

    IDK about that. As you said, that would go against the party’s long-term self-interest and if so that’d be no good for any of its disparate groups and planks.

    IMO, what’s more likely is a intra-party squabble in which those disparate planks are going to have to iron out their differences behind closed doors then put on a united front in public. Yeah, that won’t be easy and many in the party will balk via not signing on or not going to the pools, but that is the only direction they can go. And they already are, i.e. Van Jones’s remark cited here the other day in which he ponders aloud about ‘needing to get black democrats who know how to talk to white men,” etc.

    What this forthcoming move will be is akin to Clinton’s ‘Sister Souljah’ stunt and ‘Triangulation’ move prior to the ’92 election but updated for the 21st-century.

    Overall, Trump’s election has/will create/created a gold rush-level boon for 21st-century political media; perhaps this late-capitalistic decadent western phase is not so much “final liberation,’ as T-Daddy has it, but rather then final convergence of entertainment and politics in which the line is blurred hopelessly for those under 40 or so and who cannot really glean things from some other lense or in some other way. Reality TV and reality politics are one and the same and a core part of their formative experience.

    For us modern-studies/journalistic grads from late 80s and early 90s, the genre academic tome that’s proven to be most prescient is Neil Postman’s :Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business.” All the other influential media authors and academics of that era bit way too hard into the Marxist cookie that then prevailed.

  62. PA: “My position is to not take anything personally — “so what if someone is trolling?” — take ’em at face value. Their words are words after all, that stand or fall on their own merit. “

    Agreed. And I’m sure some of the online characters I DO interact with ARE playing me some in terms of their stated IRL bona-fides.

    But you’re right, it’s still best to take it for what it’s worth and let the words stand or fall, whether their source is ultimately ‘real’ or a bit of fabulist creativity.

    FWIW, I personally find these forums to be most rewarding if i play it straight and then use the engagment sort-of like a literary-vocational ‘brainstorming’ forum and playground. I’ve found that can be very, very rewarding to do as much.

  63. Thor: “Mostly though, you are self-indulgently ignorant enjoying a radical autonomy of your own demise.”

    Thank you for clearing that up for me.

  64. but rather then final convergence of entertainment and politics in which the line is blurred hopelessly for those under 40 or so and who cannot really glean things from some other lense or in some other way. Reality TV and reality politics are one and the same and a core part of their formative experience.

    Very good point… I’m convinced that the under-25 crowd in the USA gets virtually 100% of their news from Facebook.

  65. “…this was before “all” became a politicized anti-BLM statement…”

    Somewhat comic proof that Fate is on our side. Such connotation of ‘all’ won’t stick around to harangue the beige barons for long. The Creator don’t play ‘dem sloppy collard-green dice fo’ long.

  66. Tthought the following link would be interesting to readers here; it’s regarding congrats from leaders around the world for Trump in light of his victory. It claims some of his heartiest cheers came from Netanyahu.

    It must be a bit of a bind for alt-righters re. u.s. prezidents and Israel: in Obama, you had icy relations with Israel, which would be pleasing to many here in the abstract —– except for the fact that it was delivered by……Obama.

    Well, with your man in driving seat now, it looks like Netanyahu once again, eight years later, has U.S. backing replete with a blank check ready to cover any whim.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/11/13/video-netanyahu-may-have-given-donald-trump-the-warmest-welcome-of-all/

  67. Tthought the following link would be interesting to readers here; it’s regarding congrats from leaders around the world for Trump in light of his victory. It claims some of his heartiest cheers came from Netanyahu.

    And as MGE first pointed out last night, the DNC is considering Keith Ellison for their chairman, he is a known associate of Farrakhan and many other holocaust deniers within the NOI and elsewhere. That surely can’t be purely with the NYC wing of the Dem Party.

  68. — Well, with your man in driving seat now, it looks like Netanyahu once again, eight years later, has U.S. backing replete with a blank check ready to cover any whim.

    Concern troll is concerned.

  69. Well, with your man in driving seat now, it looks like Netanyahu once again, eight years later, has U.S. backing replete with a blank check ready to cover any whim.

    Netanyahu likes Trump because he doesn’t oppose expanding Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Obama opposed them and browbeat Israel into putting them on hold, I believe.

  70. PA: “Concern troll is concerned”

    Nah. Whatever concerns i may have about a Trump term, I would have just as much concern for a HRC term, though the source of said concern would greatly differ among them.

    It’s just that those few of us who are consigned genetically to objectivity more quickly notice the qualms and contradictions of those perpetually mindful and controlled by the dicates of their particular ‘side.’

    And that can make for some amusing asides.

    MGE: ” But at the end of the day blacks were to racist and/or lazy to vote for an old white lady who ran on Obama’s platform. “

    That is technically true but that wasn’t the decisive factor in HRC’s loss; rather, it was rural-to-suburban whites who voted for Obama in ’08 and ’12 going for Trump this time combined with the fact that blacks voted GOP this time at a rate of 8% versus 3% in ’08 and ’12.

  71. MGE, not sure what you mean by compromise. Speak your mind, it’s all anyone can do here.

    We didn’t elect a dictator. He has a country to run so there will therefore be inevitable legislative compromises. Not every item on the alt-right wish list will get checked off, so it behooves us to prioritize and allow for some uneasy alliances at times. I agree with Camlost that the #1 priority is to control the border, curtail immigration, and get us thinking like a country again. If that can be accomplished, then I’m more than willing to make compromises in other areas.

  72. Reality TV and reality politics are one and the same and a core part of their formative experience. (Cam)

    Very good point… I’m convinced that the under-25 crowd in the USA gets virtually 100% of their news from Facebook. (Nik)

    Just had this exact discussion today with my younger brother, and we both agreed this is disturbingly very true. We also noted in our conversation the tendency toward emotional incontinence and the narcissistic fragility of this cohort.

  73. And I’m sure some of the online characters I DO interact with ARE playing me some in terms of their stated IRL bona-fides.

    While I don’t remember most of what I said years ago through my old avatar, I do know some of it was bullshit. These days, I’m sincere in terms of my identity and opinions, having grown out of the impulse to self-fictionalize.

    I do currently engage in some id-fueled hyperbole facilitated by anonymous communication. But not when it comes to Islam. I actually find myself having to dial back my rhetoric on that topic.

  74. That is technically true but that wasn’t the decisive factor in HRC’s loss; rather, it was rural-to-suburban whites who voted for Obama in ’08 and ’12 going for Trump this time combined with the fact that blacks voted GOP this time at a rate of 8% versus 3% in ’08 and ’12.

    Agree and that is a very important fact to keep in mind for those on the right and the left who would like to interpret these voting patterns according to purely racial affiliations. The fact is a huge portion of the electorate simply does not care that much about race. It’s a fact that the alt-right will have to reckon as we push some of our agenda.

  75. I should qualify – yes I think race probably was a huge factor in most of those white voters flipping from Dem to GOP in this election. But it was one factor among many.

  76. Well, with your man in driving seat now, it looks like Netanyahu once again, eight years later, has U.S. backing replete with a blank check ready to cover any whim. (nikcrit)

    From that article is a quote from Angel Merkel’s deputy chancellor that stuck out to me because it repeats the same hysterical, unhinged lie I’ve heard over and over on social media that Trump is somehow a rabid homophobe who wants to subject gay people to electroshock therapy.

    Her deputy chancellor, Sigmar Gabriel, was far more blunt: “Trump is the trailblazer of a new authoritarian and chauvinist international movement. … They want a rollback to the bad old times in which women belonged by the stove or in bed, gays in jail and unions at best at the side table. And he who doesn’t keep his mouth shut gets publicly bashed.”

    This is someone who, after the Orlando terrorist attack, gave a vociferous and muscular speech in defense of gays. Many times during the debates chastised Hillary for accepting donations to the Clinton foundation from Saudi Arabia where gays are thrown off roofs or hung. This is someone who waved a rainbow flag at rallies in front of cheering crowds of rednecks. Trump also invited Peter Theil, a gay silicon valley billionaire as a keynote speaker at the RNC. In 2005 he congratulated Elton John and David Furnish on their civil union.

    The same could be said about Trump’s relationships with women or blacks or Hispanics. He has spent his entire career in New York real estate and entertainment, where he does business with all these people on a daily basis, yet somehow this man is a racist, sexist, homophobe.

    I swear, the people who keep repeating this lie are the ones who are racist or sexist because they hate the fact that a powerful heterosexual white man is now our president.

  77. “From that article is a quote from Angel Merkel’s deputy chancellor that stuck out to me because it repeats the same hysterical, unhinged lie I’ve heard over and over on social media that Trump is somehow a rabid homophobe who wants to subject gay people to electroshock therapy.”l

    If so, that sort of surprises me because the sit e that link that the story was on is a alt-right news-aggregator-driven site (hotair.com?) and not one I believe that would be tokenly pushing a anti-sexist and anti-racist rhetoric.

    I should add that i’m being too lazy right now and unwilling to go vet that site; but i’m pretty sure that’s the deal in terms of its editorial bent.

  78. I recently read an article that said Israeli Jews generally like Trump, while American Jews generally do not. I think it was in the New York Times.

  79. “The same could be said about Trump’s relationships with women or blacks or Hispanics. He has spent his entire career in New York real estate and entertainment, where he does business with all these people on a daily basis, yet somehow this man is a racist, sexist, homophobe.”

    I believe all that. I’d also believe it if, in Trump’s heart of hearts he personally didn’t care a bit about one’s sexual orientation. But given social issues and how they are packaged and politicized and how they’ve been dealt with politically for the last 50 years and counting and all that implies in terms of Realpolitik? I think Trump would sell out gays as a political faction/association/albatross and/or token benefit in a New York nanosecond; IOW: when stackiung the political planks and where gay issues stand within any larger partisan issues, concerns and postures; i can’t think of a single ‘gay issue’ in which Trump would get behind it sans that issue being bundled in some other more tolerable political package; i.e., he would never sacrifice even his slightest personal allegiance in the service of backing a gay issue that would be unpopular and otherwise untenable to ‘he and his’ politically.

    For that reason alone, I would keep that Trump hard-on you’ve been brandishing the last few days underwraps and zipped up for now; the terms of the romance will always be on shifting ground.

  80. Speaking of malicious lies, Trump did not mock the disabled, as maintained by The New Yorker and Andrew Marantz.

    That was a slander and a libel propagated with a social media meme composed of out-of-context pictures.

    The (((journalist Marantz))) ought to provide evidence of Trump mocking that reporter, or he is guilty of slander, and of being unethical.

    In the latest Fash the Nation, Jazzhands suggests that journalists be “disbarred” or better yet “dismembered” (literally?) for not adhering to a standard of ethics. And how that practice might be put into place i don’t know, but it is a good idea.

    Andrew Marantz describes the Alt Right as not honoring “social norms” that include human decency to unfortunates and disabled, but in his article that charge is based on a lie.

    However. There is something to the idea that the AR is too unforgiving of human frailty.

    I would say, that what we are opposed to is the enshrining of weakness as a model. Weakness can be tolerated and even forgiven, but it cannot be set up as an example.

    Which is why we are all in on throwing homosexuals off buildings and burning women alive in cages. (haha) On that note though, death by throwing off a building has to be a thousand times more merciful than burning alive in a metal cage, which is pretty high up on the awfulness scale.

  81. I laughed inwardly when passing the wall-mounted TV in my office lobby this morning, with a banner at the bottom of the screen reading something like “Concerns Rise Over Bannon in Trump’s Circle.”

    Heh. Is there a more bitchy, sacless, passive aggressive journo-word than “concerns”?

    It’s no wonder they’re an industry on its way out.

  82. The “social norms” that are enshrined as the end-all-and-be-all of American discourse, have become a cover for Americans not asserting their own interests, and effectively taking it up the ass by sicko pervs who are no better than cockroaches but who somehow have managed to infest the state apparatus.

    We can’t criticize anyone because it’s not polite, it’s not nice. Half the welfare recipients are human gasbags. No cognition no morality and what is their worth. Fat and ugly is what they are.

    Such a description is characterized as “hate” but if we look at the lower half of the bell curve of welfare recipients, and index their physical health and their looks? calling them gasbags and shit-tubes is a fair description of what they are. Human refuse who are entirely sustained by the white man’s resourcefulness.

    Those people do not need to be hated, but they do need to be checked. There is a famous post on MPC, about how the culmination of the white man’s achievement has become the expansion and sustaining of the welfare state. So we created calculus and figured out chemistry, in order to set up oil rigs in the middle of the North Sea, so that we can have hospitals to care for fat negresses and Latinos and ease their pain.

    And our “social norms” dictate that we do this.

  83. * Edit

    The “social norms” that are enshrined as the end-all-and-be-all of American discourse, have become a cover for a straight-jacket on Americans not asserting their own interests,

  84. “However. There is something to the idea that the AR is too unforgiving of human frailty…..
    I would say, that what we are opposed to is the enshrining of weakness as a model.”

    Yes! I think that is a fairly simple yet profound observation. Yet it is surprising just how often that basic premise is overlooked or ignored in discussion. Along those lines, I think it’s interesting how the term ‘Alt-right” is being used more and more in the election aftermath and accompanying growing number of analysis journo pieces. The movement is being defined right now before our eyes; I think it’s important to monitor and shape that process, lest you wind up spending all your political wit,energy and resource correcting the ‘official’ line on you and yours. Other examples abound of that such lacking.

    Mea culpa: elk, i quickly wanted to apologize to you for my mild sass the other day that had me teasing your mulling over a ‘conversion’ to Islam. In fact, I appreciate the fact that part of your iconoclasm is you’re willing to hypothetically play the fool in moments and in other ways don unpopular poses for the sake of fresh intellectual perspective.

    So it was sort-of at once low-blow and bad-faith for me to call you out in that instant, given that I’m aware and in fact appreciate the context in which you pull such stunts. So…. again, my bad; I guess I was just a tad butt hurt for you calling me a ‘deluded liberal,’ lolzz.

  85. There is something to the idea that the AR is too unforgiving of human frailty

    I think we’re in one of those historic moments that dictates that we don’t go soft. The Alt-Right has been of incalculable service to legion of Western men who needed the liberal-inculcated habits figuratively beaten out of them. Supplication to unworthy women, misplaced trust in tainted institutions, gamma behavior, you name it. I’m amazed, looking back on the past decade of Manosphere writing, what a spontaneous cultural self-correction it’s been. I’m a better man, better father, as a result of alt-Right’s unrelenting and uncompromising boot camp.

  86. For a change, some of them are listening to us and attempting to find common ground. All I’ve ever heard is that people like me need to be doing the listening and attempting to find common ground.

  87. No one wants to get touch feely, but it is to anyone’s credit to participate in this emerging marketplace of ideas. Differences aside, nikcrit, we are both core Americans.

  88. I can say that I now know why WN has lost for so long, this Trump episode has taught me that.

    WNs are not clear in their mind of what they want. At the slightest hint of maybe….kinda…..sorta Amren style pro-white views, they go nuts.

    Donald Trump has not even said the word “white” or “pro-white” and yet WNs assume he is their hero. Like a slick conman, he has let the mark fill in the blanks, becoming what they want to see.

    The system resistence to Trump is as nothing compared to what a true WN candidate would experience. Nothing! There would be bombings, assasinations, prison time, fighting in the streets.

  89. Nikcrit…

    I’m not playing with you…

    You are STILL HERE because, ULTIMATELY, you still desire genuine white Supremacy…

    Which then DOES NOT preclude you from being in a state of radical autonomy…

    Meaning… You do not feel that solid… You do not know your concrete self… You ARE UNCERTAIN of YOUR RACE or whether you even have a race?

    Ergo… You are detached from your Seed and confounded by the Egg.

    Who CAN HELP YOU in this dilemma you know not even to conceive?

    So you deconstruct others to normalize your identity crisis that you do not even know to possess.

    Yet, two can play this game and I am just so much better. A profiler by trade and practice.

    Just remember…

    White Supremacy DOES NOT NEED TO ACCOUNT for the self-annihilating result of miscegenation.

    And miscegenation CAN MAKE NO GRIEVANCE CLAIMS at the feet of white Supremacy.

  90. when stackiung the political planks and where gay issues stand within any larger partisan issues, concerns and postures; i can’t think of a single ‘gay issue’ in which Trump would get behind it sans that issue being bundled in some other more tolerable political

    Well that’s fine. The gay lobby should close up shop and be exiled from Mordor. They got what they wanted, people have largely moved on, but now they are pushing tranny bathrooms which is just bridge too far for most Americans including myself.

  91. “[J]ust a bridge too far…” — MGE

    Boy, you lack particularly keen vision.

    Homo = same = EXACT SAME = Self…

    The implications are most real.

  92. How does the parasite perpetuate…

    IF it always annihilates its host?

    Exactly…

    And it pays no mind to running out of Hostess.

  93. Just as Camlost predicted, the fracture is coming:

  94. Apparently, it’s real:

    Donald Trump “very effectively” tapped into “the anger and angst and pain that many working class people are feeling,” the Vermont independent senator who challenged Clinton in the Democratic primary said on “CBS This Morning.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/bernie-sanders-humiliated-democrats-loss-working-class-voters/

    You know the 16 core constituencies of the Democratic Party don’t feel that their leaders should be worried about privileged Whites!!

  95. “Ergo… You are detached from your Seed and confounded by the Egg.”

    Dang, that’s a pretty meta bind! So, does it come to: which came first?

  96. It took a while for me to register its full impact, but elk’s 8:37 a.m. comment today really nails it. The fine-line distinctions he makes are obvious and self-evident—–but then why is IT so rarely put as succinctly as he, elk, put ‘IT’ today?

    What I took away from his remark is: “PITY should have precious nothing to do with forming a related POLICY. And to ignore that maxim is to invite disaster.

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