An Old Appeal to Fence-Sitters

“Przeżyj to sam” (PZHE-zhey toh sahm). The title of the c. 1980 song by the band Lombard literally means “experience this for yourself” but translation ought to aim for the idiomatic intent, so in this case I translate it as “stand up and be counted.”

This song (and the video below) is about events that seem as distant now as the Napoleonic wars. But as noted earlier, history is wide awake and here we are in revolutionary times.

Vote Trump, arrest Merkel, work to secure a future for your nation, whatever your nation. It’s safe to sit on the sidelines but it’s more satisfying to identify a way in which you can make a difference, no matter how small (to someone somewhere, it’s sure to be big) and do it. Here is the song in my translation:

You look at life without emotion
In spite of the times, contrary to others
Wherever you are, day or night
You watch the game with a spectator’s eyes

Someone else is changing the world
Sticks out his neck, raises his voice
And you stand aside because it’s safer
So just in case, you don’t lose much

[Refrain] Stand up and be counted (x2)
Don’t let your heart become hard like a stone
While you still have a heart

You saw yesterday, in the news
The tired people, a restless crowd
And you fixed upon
The vast sea of human faces

But the speaker strained harsh words
From which your sudden anger swelled
And wrath began to grow inside you
Until you thought: enough of silence

[Refrain x7]

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391 thoughts on “An Old Appeal to Fence-Sitters

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  2. — I was going to vote early to avoid the crowds, but have read that early votes are easier for the lyin theivin Yankees to disappear.

    Voter fraud is certain, and very likely on a huge scale. That alone makes it clear that Hillary will not be president in the normal sense of the word — she will not be recognized as legfitimate. As to crowds, I’ve worked from home since 2008 on election and inauguration days to avoid being in the heart of Mordor, should some of our fellow voters go overboard with their enthusiasm.

  3. I will say this Trump thing has shown how many WNs still believe in the system. They believe they can vote WN into power. The jews push a rich goy puppet on TV, and the suckers line up to praise him.

    Voting is not a revolutionary activity. There never was – and never will be – a legal revolution.

  4. Ryu is absolutely right…

    Voting means nothing… This alternating-partisan questioning of the “voting system” is now the mechanism of status quo. All the smarty pants understand that this news cycle of questioning the legitimacy of voting IS FOR THE PURPOSE of invoking the masses to legitimate the system with their votes.

    Even if Trump loses, he could work as a Virtual President for a dissident wS America.

    Three Nation Solution.

    A Land of white Supremacy…

    Liberated Cucklands…

    The Southern Monopoly…

  5. It has to be said, getting involved in street politics and other social activities is better than the alternative, passivism, i.e. sitting at home sucking your thumb feeling superior to fellow goys waiting for the collapse (“any day now'”).

  6. The Land of white Supremacy
    AS spiritual head…

    The Cucklands AS Ego…

    The Southern Monopoly AS Self…

    A separation perhaps reforming into an organic “federation” for purposes of XYZ ONLY?

  7. — Get out there. Get involved. Join the real world. Feet on the street. Network

    Exactly. No need to start grandiose or out of your skill or comfort zone. Raise a Shitord. Help pay your nephew or niece thru private school if you don’t have one or help otherwise if you can’t affort that. Discretely remove an anti-White poster from your break room wall. All kinds of legal things could be listed.

  8. — I will say this Trump thing has shown how many WNs still believe in the system. They believe they can vote WN into power. The jews push a rich goy puppet on TV, and the suckers line up to praise him. // Voting is not a revolutionary activity. There never was – and never will be – a legal revolution.

    Ryu, think in terms of cause-effect. Trump’s run is laying the groundwork for a revolution by delegitimizing the system and giving us an aspirational focal point. A beaten dog licks its master’s hand. The master must show weakness for the dog to begin to hate and then to lunge for the throat.

    In the meantime, it would be pretty nice to have a president who will wall off the border, stop the inbound refugee flights, and not disarm us.

  9. “Even if Trump loses, he could work as a Virtual President for a dissident wS America.”

    Ahh, the cold-climate peoples’ contingency plan, given things don’t pan out ideally three weeks from now?

  10. “Three Nation Solution.

    A Land of white Supremacy…

    Liberated Cucklands…

    The Southern Monopoly…”

    My attempt to deconstruct the Thordaddy Paradigm:

    “A Land of White Supremacy”= White pro-whiters all living under an ethos of aspiring ‘Objective White Supremacism”?

    “Liberated Cucklands”= “The rest of those whites who did NOT ascribe to ‘aspirational objective supremsacism”?

    “The Southern Monopoly”= “Non-whites and other ‘minos’ who don’t fit the physical mold requested AND, whether through conscious resistance or inability to grasp it conceptually, are NOT adherents to that aforementioned “aspirational objective supremacism.”

    Am I on the right track here?

  11. “The jews push a rich goy puppet on TV, and the suckers line up to praise him.”

    I wonder how prevalent, among the ‘white-race-interest’ collective writ large—– i.e., any covert or above-ground white-interest type conservative oraganization, mainstream and not, —– believe something along the lines that Ryu says above.

    I mean, once you’re in a self-interest group that self-brands yourself as oppressed and under constant and current attack, no less than mere existence is proof of being pursued by The Man USG; and it must indeed be hard to view ANY developing politican entity as something not against your personal self-interest. I mean, if the consensus of blog pro-white-righters is that it’s all bad and that we’re targeted for extinction,etc., then how in the heavens could a Trump ever organically and uncorrupted even arise within the last year to vanguard a movement to retrieve former Goy glory?

    I bet there are a lot of white-rights bloggers, etc., who feel the way that Ryu emotes above, eh?

  12. Ahh, the cold-climate peoples’ contingency plan, given things don’t pan out ideally three weeks from now?

    Dude what I don’t get about you is that you complain when people criticize you, but then you throw out snarky comments from the sidelines. Sad!

  13. Hillary will not be president in the normal sense of the word — she will not be recognized as legfitimate

    Even in abscence of voter fraud she will assuming office tainted by 30 years of political machine corruption while attempting to rule over an unprecedently divided nation. I don’t know a single person voting for Hillary that actually likes her. There is no chance that Hillary will be able to unite the country.

  14. “what I don’t get about you is that you complain when people criticize you, but then you throw out snarky comments from the sidelines. Sad!”

    Some remarks are worthy of snark and other forms of ridicule…. As for your other comment, i would say, in terms of snarky or sarcastic or critical-in-any-way overall retorts? I give about 1/50th of what I routinely receive.

    RE-read the particular remark that I got all ‘snarky’ on. Was it worthy of such a reaction? Then couple your answer with the fact that A) I’m among the few that respect and routinely engage with the commenter of said remark, and: B) the commenter I’m referring to is ironically one that you have dismissed completely out of hand, likening his commenting style to that of Ouiji-board proverbs and stereotypes.

    And now you’re indirectly championing someone you naively dismiss and condescend to on a routine basis on this very blog.

    Indeed, that is quite sad.

  15. “The jews push a rich goy puppet on TV, and the suckers line up to praise him.”

    I wonder how prevalent, among the ‘white-race-interest’ collective writ large—– i.e., any covert or above-ground white-interest type conservative oraganization, mainstream and not, —– believe something along the lines that Ryu says above.

    Among White Advocates, it is the minority opinion that Trump is a puppet of the jews.

    The notion that Trump is a puppet of the jews, is frankly laughable, as it fails every test of phronesis: foremost being that he is self-funded and second-most being that all the jews hate him.

    The idea that he is their puppet in spite of those two facts is absurd.

    That said, Trump is and is not WN, but that is irrelevant though: White Advocacy is where it is at and politics is the art of the possible.

    In the advocacy of politics, we don’t advocate for war, and we don’t advocate for doom-and-gloom. We advocate for America First.

  16. “We advocate for America First.”

    That statement is hopelessly vague, but it is a start.

    ***********

    Anyone not voting for Trump is giving Hillary an in with which to do the bidding of the Global Bankers.

    It is so OBVIOUS that Hillary is the War Candidate, that not voting against her is moral dereliction.

  17. The Clown World meme was formerly expressed with Red and Blue Pill, and before that with War is Peace and Freedom is Slavery, and before that with Through the Looking Glass.

    Things in politics are exactly the opposite of how they are presented. In other words, the bovines’ conceptions of the real-world macro politics, are inverted.

    They say Trump supporters are causing chaos and mayhem, but the DNC is on tape admitting to doing just that.

    Trump is an unstable character who can’t be trusted with the launch codes — but it is Hillary who lacks judgment and presents checks that America’s ass can no longer cash.

    And it is this last that is most flagrant insult to our phronesis, because how many times do the establishment pols aka Clinton, have to portray as a threat our Cold War enemy from 50 years ago, before it is clear who is starting the fight?

    *************

    Bill Clinton says, I feel your pain. But he is a sadist, and he feels your pain to thrive on it. Hillary doesn’t feel anything at all, unrelated to her status. Bill Clinton is a sadist, whereas Hillary is a psychopath, judging on their capacity to feel other people, and using those terms in their correct and popular meanings.

  18. Whites today are so hungry, so needing of just a hint of pro-white advocacy that they will settle for the smallest scrap: Donald Trump is that smallest scrap. The most controversial thing he has said is that he will build a wall. That’s it.

    Hope is a precious thing – so precious, it should not be wasted on substitutes. We want the genuine article.

    Thordaddy and I would disagree on what White Supremacy is, but we both have a picture in our minds of what it is. Trump is not that man. A real WS would be dodging bullets, fire bombs, attacks on a daily basis. What you have seen so far is as nothing.

    A WN that compromises with the jews is LOST. It is the most important issue, as the jews are white enemy number one. Trump has shown he belongs to them.

  19. We’ll just have to wait and see if Trump does/doesn’t do great things and-or if he does/doesn’t catalyze great things. Anything that’s in our own capacity to do, we should be doing anyway.

  20. PS: I started the blog exactly a year ago. Its been more enjoyable (in large part thanks to y’all) and less difficult than expected. But it also requires me to be on my A-game at all times: no half-ass posts.

  21. “PS: I started the blog exactly a year ago. Its been more enjoyable (in large part thanks to y’all) and less difficult than expected.”

    I was sifting through the “Top Posts” tab above during the weekend and noted to myself that it’s already been a year that you’ve been at it. And I didn’t even stumble upon your blog until it was up-and-running for about a month or so…..

    So congratulations! Great stuff and certainly more coming!

    (Still, the one bittersweet irony is that, over the years, you’ve been my number-one respected nemesis ideologically; the one i engaged with the most but who most certainly wasn’t among my ideological echo chmabers…

    Yet, now that you’re a blog host, you understandably comment much less in the comment string than you did before you had your own blog. (Granted, writing the actual posts, as well as your fewer comments and occasional in-line comments makes up for much of that gap).

    Keep up the good work!

  22. It is a different thing to post than to comment, PA. You seem to have made the transition well. It can help you develop and purify your WN.

    …but you must be careful. I have seen your American urges towards censorship. Censorship never works in the long run. It drives out the weak but makes the strong more determined.

  23. Until now most whites in America have been supporting cuckservative, pro-Israel, pro-military ideals while operating on the old thought that this is still their country. Until they get over these antiquated beliefs they will never turn towards anything even remotely resembling WN consciousness.

    Win or lose, Trump has now smashed the old GOP and the liberal and media reaction to him has made it clear to the 200+ million whites who are willing to see that this is no longer the nation in which the grew up, and no other candidate could’ve accomplished that.

    If a few stray right wingers committing violent acts was all it took to get white America to embrace WN fully then we would’ve seen that happen decades ago after McVeigh or Ruby Ridge. Whites care too much about the condition of this country to just drop all political outlets for their goals and start blowing things to smithereens.

  24. Nikcrit, thanks. Good to have a quick-witted “liberal but not SJW” point of view in the comments. The only time I consciously hold back from commenting is under a new post to hear what others have to say about the subject.

    Ryu, thanks as well. Purifying and developing one’s WN is a conscious process in liberal murka. It not only helps you stay sane but it helps you be a better man.

  25. — Until now most whites in America have been supporting cuckservative, pro-Israel, pro-military ideals while operating on the old thought that this is still their country. Until they get over these antiquated beliefs they will never turn towards anything even remotely resembling WN consciousness.

    Two critical things have to be in place to overthrow a system: lost of its perceived legitimacy and an aggrieved populations sense of confidence. Trump has laid the groundwork for both.

  26. There is an incoherency amongst those asserting a “rigged system” and the subsequent obsoleteness of the “one man, one vote” mantra. If the default assumption is a “radically autonomous” environment then “voting” IS EQUAL TO “not voting.”

    So in relation to Trump, the determining factors are one’s desired direction and the desired direction that one wants to persuade Trump towards? And as a white Supremacist, this REQUIRES not voting for Trump SO AS TO INFORM him that there are those to his right desiring to pull him more right. Now, you can CLAIM to be doing the exact same thing by voting for Trump. Ergo, “we” inhabit a radically autonomous environment where antithetical acts produces the same effectual result.

    And then there will always be with a Hillary presidency, the impetus to destroy, destroy, destroy.

  27. I was conceived sometime in May of ’73 and then birthed sometime after the quadrennial Jan. 20th inauguration…

    So in the 2008 election/2009 inauguration… I had the idea that I would run for President in order to make issue of the 35 year age minimum in relation to my actual age from conception as I would have only been 34 “birth” years at time of inauguration. But IN FACT, I was over 35 “years” old having been conceived in May of 1973. Of course, this was a segue to the abortion issue and high IQ “white” males’ desire for self-annihilation as solution to “infinite regress.”

    Long story short, from this sprung the idea of a virtual president conceived on a different time line.

  28. So in relation to Trump, the determining factors are one’s desired direction and the desired direction that one wants to persuade Trump towards?

    He’s 72 year’s old so he’s not going to be “pulled towards” anything. He’s a 1-shot deal with no turning left/right, like an overloaded train on straight tracks where no off-roading is going to be possible.

    And why anyone is thinking that we could have a legitimate WN candidate here in 2016 is beyond me. We’ve never had a WN President and we’ve just endured 8 years of Africanized leadership in the White House.

  29. I can JUST CLAIM that “game theory” postulates three effectual outcomes for Totalitarian Diversity…

    Eradication.
    Annihilation.
    Separation.

    And because Totalitarian Diversity INHERENTLY REJECTS “separation,” THOSE who turn this most basic of options into “grandiose” illusion are clearly under the suspicion of advocating for eradication or annihilation?

    WHICH IS EXACTLY THE POINT!

    Totalitarian Diversity MUST MAKE separation seem scary or crazy or God-forbid, GRANDIOSE…

    LEAVING ONLY THE OPTIONS OF Eradication or Annihilation.

    AND IF…

    Totalitarian Diversity IS SUPREMELY CONFIDENT that very few Eradica exist…

    Well then…

    “We” get mass “white” self-annihilation.

    And this is EXACTLY WHAT “WE” HAVE…

    (S)eparation* IS NOT GRANDIOSE…

    It is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR SURVIVAL.

    *And then there is that matter of SUSTAINING a separation which takes one into the realm of (white) Supremacy.

  30. Camlost…

    I AM NOT “WN.”

    White Nationalism IS A GIVEN…

    Trump… As Trump. He can lose the election and STILL CONTINUE TO WIN AS Trump…

    So it SHALL BE as dissident virtual president aiming to destroy the corrupt presidency of Hillary…

    And if he wins…

    “We” still press him towards wS…

    White nationalism IS A GIVEN…

    To CLAIM OTHERWISE provokes the option of the Eradica and wets the whistle of the self-annihilators.

  31. But so do blacks, whites, Asians, Christians and Jews. Mr. Trump often claims that two million undocumented immigrants have been convicted of crimes, but in fact the figure is actually 176,000, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    176,000? No way. There’s been that many illegal immigrants convicted of crimes in NYC alone.

  32. The 18th century poem The Vicar of Bray had an amusing take on fence sitters and time-servers — a couple of verses —
    In good King Charles’s golden days,
    When Loyalty no harm meant;
    A Zealous High-Church man I was,
    And so I gain’d Preferment.
    Unto my Flock I daily Preach’d,
    Kings are by God appointed,
    And Damn’d are those who dare resist,
    Or touch the Lord’s Anointed.
    And this is law, I will maintain
    Unto my Dying Day, Sir.
    That whatsoever King may reign,
    I will be the Vicar of Bray, Sir!
    . . . . .
    When George in Pudding time came o’er,
    And Moderate Men looked big, Sir,
    My Principles I chang’d once more,
    And so became a Whig, Sir.
    And thus Preferment I procur’d,
    From our Faith’s great Defender
    And almost every day abjur’d
    The Pope, and the Pretender.
    And this is Law, &c.

  33. Yes PA… That “fence-sitting” piece is the stuff of high IQ “white” PATHOLOGY…

    Here is a literalannihilation of one’s wife AND mother… Sopping and soaked in anti-Eradica ethos… And protesting and fearmonging any and all thoughts of separation from the annihilating aspects of modern MRKA.

    IT IS A SICKNESS HIDING in politicized obfuscation.

  34. RE-read the particular remark that I got all ‘snarky’ on. Was it worthy of such a reaction?

    Well, OK. Let’s just say I had a few too many Leinenkugels and for some reason interpreted your comment as very uncharitable in the moment.

    My general feeling about some of your commenting, is that you are most comfortable in this very abstract, almost metaphysical plane, and when you are there, you are pretty fair and even handed. But on the occasions when you do bring it down to earth, it seems you have a tendency to adopt an almost mocking, snarky tone… exceptions apply of course. Not sure if that’s an fair or accurate assessment, it is of course subject to my biases. and even true, I’m not sure why I’d even expect you to react a certain way. Maybe it’s because I’m a raaayyycist.

    someone you naively dismiss and condescend to on a routine basis on this very blog.

    False.

    I’ve tried to in good faith attempt to understand what thordaddy has to say, but he has simply responded that I can’t possibly understand him because I am a sexual degenerate. He always has some reason why someone is unable to truly understand his point, and it is never because he is unable to fully elucidate a rational thought.

    Do you ever wonder why, after all these years, no one seems to be able to interpret thordaddy’s ciphers? That should tell you something. Do you really think there’s something he is saying so profound and revelatory, if you just probe a little deeper you will discover some hidden truth to it all? What are you looking for anyway?

    On the rare occasion that I actually read his comments, I will often see some mundane observation expressed in spoooookyy LANGUAGE “that” makes it seem FAR (m)ore profound than it actually is.

  35. O.T.: Is this case the new “Amy Biehl”-ization template in the right-o-sphere?

    What would motivate someone to write something so vile? But more importantly, what evil forces are at play that would publish this in a paper of record?

    Here’s a think piece you will never see in the New York Times “Don’t Call My Daughter’s Killer a Terrorist, He was a Palestinian Freedom Fighter.”

  36. Here’s a think piece you will never see in the New York Times “Don’t Call My Daughter’s Killer a Terrorist, He was a Palestinian Freedom Fighter.”

    I doubt you’d see that particular article title in the NYT, for obvious reasons.

    But that kind of pro-Palestinian sentiment is surely springing up within liberal circles on the West Coast, especially in academia.

  37. Whites care too much about the condition of this country to just drop all political outlets for their goals and start blowing things to smithereens.

    True. When I said in an earlier thread that an armed populace serves as a check on tyranny, I was not talking about random acts of violence. Terrorism is for losers. I think a better template would be the Michigan Militia, which was very active until the early 2000’s. I remember that fat slob Michael Moore constantly whining that they were rayyycisss simply for being a bunch of white guys running around in the woods with guns.

  38. MGE…

    I’ve written as simply as one can…

    “White” male has two options…

    Radical autonomy and self-annihilation.

    Or, white Supremacy.

    And I’ve been asked to explain those two “concepts” more times than I can recall and have ELUDICATED on those “concepts” for many years using the most mudane words in the English dictionary…

    These phrases…

    “Radical autonomy” and “white Supremacy” ARE NOT EVEN original to me…. The words in those phrases are of common usage… “Radical,” “white,” autonomy,” “Supremacy…” These words SUCCINCTLY KEYWORD OUR ENTIRE POLITICAL PARADIGM…

    And THEN…

    When a high IQ “white” male ASKS what those phrases mean and claims he cannot undertand the plain meaning of the phrases themselves THEN he ceases to possess any high IQ PRIVILEGE… He has clearly degenerated intellectually.

  39. The point is, MGE…

    You DO NOT WANT TO BE a white Supremacist…

    And your homosexuality justifies this rejection.

    But it is your fundamental frame that is skewered… LIBERATED from objective Supremacy…

    So that you POSSESS a liberated concept of “white supremacy…”

    A concept that is ugly, evil and degenerate…

    So that “white supremacy” EQUALS “white degeneracy” and your self-annihilating homosexuality is absolutely normal BY COMPARISON.

    Your sexual degeneracy STUNTS YOU as it stunts ALL.

    So you MUST conceive “white Supremacist,” absolutely, OR show yourself to be terminable PER Natural Law.

  40. This story more or less confirms a lot of AR wishes re. Trump, even though from the story’s perspective, they describe as much as a bad thing:

    When the economy tanks for real and there’s no more QE to hand out to Wall Street, lets hope Krugman skips town to Israel where he can finally be away from all those awful rednecks he so clearly hates.

  41. I remember that fat slob Michael Moore constantly whining that they were rayyycisss simply for being a bunch of white guys running around in the woods with guns.

    Yeah, I can’t decide who is more repulsed and terrified by the idea of white guys with guns – Michael Moore or our very own Trickin’.

  42. What do you call a fella who lauds the innovation and mass distribution of white men’s communications’ technology while slimultaneously passive-mocks the idea of a “virtual president” more legitimate than his wordly equivalent per the process of “universal equality?”

    Neat Trick?

  43. “Persuasion isn’t faceless.”

    Who can make
    Who make
    Who’s case…
    One pace
    Is laced
    With Grace
    Then
    It.is.a.Race…
    Face
    Distinct
    In time, at all place
    Spaced between
    A mime and taste
    Frozen appetite
    Primed to waste
    Staked out
    And profiled
    Deserted and defaced…

  44. Edit…

    Whose case?
    Who is Case?
    Test place
    Boxed in
    Pressure on breast plate
    Breath spates
    Brain hates
    Death waits
    Now
    Escape…
    The grammatical error
    Corrected post haste…

  45. “Yeah, I can’t decide who is more repulsed and terrified by the idea of white guys with guns”

    More nonsensical characterization; as a guy who grew up in the ‘;burbs of the upper-Midwest, you think that rural munitions dudes are that alien to me? Lol!! You’re describing some of my maternal relatives, in fact; and that fact causes more criticism within that side of my family than it does from me.

    Just fyi: I’m not a cloistered monoracial/monocultured midwesterner: I’m educated, well-rounded and quite capable of talking to people of various racial, educational and cultural strata. I do NOT get freaked out by someone who’s background is different from mine; iow: i embrace my mixed blood, not deny it—–or hide it through gratefully deceiving personal looks!!!!! 🙂

  46. RE: “Neat Trick?”

    Thor, what’s up with your vindicative?

    Over the years, you’ve considered me everything from a fellow traveler to outright ally, referring to me ‘a seeker of genuine white supremacy,’ to a turncoat-ish ‘radical autonomist,’ who seeks to perpetuate the self-annihilation of the proudly alabaster masses!

    So which is it, T-Diddy?

  47. Do you ever wonder why, after all these years, no one seems to be able to interpret thordaddy’s ciphers?

    I’m understanding Thordaddy in bits and pieces, and he’s got some fascinating ideas that no one could come up with unless they were as “offbeat” as the thinking behind his body of theory. Part of the issue is that he redefines a lot of terminology at the root of his “cosmology” and then builds complex ideas on top of that.

    But as time goes by and I learn more of his mind I tend to agree that the problem with our country really can be described as “radical autonomy.”

    And I find great value in the possibility that a big chunk of his worldview is build on his observation of the behavior of modern party-goers during his background in the restaurant/nightclub business – because our new generation is completely unserious, undisciplined, decadent and raised on entertainment and leisurely socializing.

    I liken him to the phenomenon of Trumpism – if the Donald was more mainstream and more of a standard politician for the last 20 years there’s no way he could be out there today stumping for “radical” ideas like repealing NAFTA or slamming the borders closed, which neither major party has ever supported.

  48. I have a similar appreciation for TD, especially the spirit of his comments, though short patience for ones that get too abstract and repetitive. When he talks in concrete terms and from experience, he’s very good.

    One of my all time favorite comments anywhere was when he wrote about his playing football. I couldn’t tell if he played offensive or defensive line but he would tell the opposing lineman which way he’s running and then run him over. Its like Beowulf choosing to fight Grendel without a weapon and still winning.

  49. What TD brings is an unshakeable-frame, holisticly spiritual and physical worldview that is rare. In that way, he’s similar to Matt King who mostly engages commenters at CH and has also commented here several times.

  50. “And I find great value in the possibility that a big chunk of his worldview is build on his observation of the behavior of modern party-goers during his background in the restaurant/nightclub business – because our new generation is completely unserious, undisciplined, decadent and raised on entertainment and leisurely socializing.”

    I too find myself using that ‘reference’ for my ‘critical frame’ at times; there IS something very revealing that can come from studying a social field that is engaging in entertaining their personal indulgences; certain and particular revealings that otherwise might be missed…. Perhaps, that is the social circumstance in which people most reveal their id and other personal longings?

  51. Looking for contacts in Hungary or Poland for paramilitary training.

    Exciting things afoot, comrades.

  52. <iPerhaps, that is the social circumstance in which people most reveal their id and other personal longings?

    Well, I’d agree but I wouldn’t use the term “longings.” I think socioeconomic success and security allows pseduo-cultural movements to pop up – i.e. it gives youth a chance to indulge in a lot of silly short-term social fancies, or gives adults the chance to entertain unsustainable, sometimes suicidal political dalliances, whether they be on the right like the GOP’s military activism or on the left like SJW blank-slater idiocy.

  53. “I think socioeconomic success and security allows pseduo-cultural movements to pop up “

    Somewhere along the lines we’re now discussing; i.e., Thor’s perspective via working for years as a bouncer in trendy night clubs, there’s an insight I gleaned from attending the zeitgeist of pop music events over the years:

    I would notice that some of the most extreme-genre acts cresting the zeitgeist; i.e., say, Trent Reznor’s NIN and Marilyn Manson’s shock-metal-rock peaks and tours in the mid-to-late ’90s would have me going for newspaper and mag overnight reviewing duties.

    But: there among the attendees, one would invariably find the most unlikely day-to-day civilian figures in attendance at the shows: i.e., the ultra-staid secretary from the paper’s classified ads dept., dressed in full Manson-regalia and makeup and parked in the first row; or 20-something white ad-account boys, whose preppy demeanor you’d run into at, say, the 2000 or so Dr. Dre/Eminem/Snoop Dogg “Puff, Puff, Pass Tour.”

    Point being, one could ROUTINELY find the most unlikely figures from your day-to-day social or vocational life popping up at transgressive concerts or other entertainment events. I suppose by this late date, that is just somewhat au courant with the All-American zeitgeist; still, there’s something revealing about the form of pop-cult release everyday Americans seek for fulfillment. So it remains that non-religious-based social communion still reveals something rather specific.

  54. But: there among the attendees, one would invariably find the most unlikely day-to-day civilian figures in attendance at the shows: i.e., the ultra-staid secretary from the paper’s classified ads dept., dressed in full Manson-regalia and makeup and parked in the first row;

    So it remains that non-religious-based social communion still reveals something rather specific.

    Good points.

    But the way you describe above is somewhat similar to the Democratic Party of 2016, right? Lots of “diverse” people who have very little in common celebrating something (the death of Patriarchy) while not being bright enough to understand that they’d never survive as a group for 5 seconds in the real world if they had to set up their own functional country or accomplish anything together besides sloganeering.

    But the growing influence of always cheery and extroverted black music sure is killing various areas of white music isn’t it? Demographic change aside, we’ve seen a slow death gathering for the introspective, self-flagellating, “rebellious” and dark/ambient types of music like grunge, emo/industrial (or whatever you’d call that stuff).

  55. The pervasive pink has to have something with it too. Chuck had a post when NFL started doing the pink uniform accents. He argued that the players have enough alpha capital to pull it off. He had a point. But how much indirect association with pink can fans put up with?

  56. The NBA has been doing some form of pink for Susan Komen for a really long time. At least 20 years, AFAIK. The black players don’t give a crap about it, that’s a white woman cause… but they do love wearing bright colors or anything flashy.

  57. No… Chuck was wrong BECAUSE as an anti-racist (anti-wS) he couldn’t see that those “black alphas” in pink WERE ALREADY POLITICAL STOOGES and the PINK UPON them only made their stoogery ever more fluorescent.

  58. PA… I was recruited as a quarterback… Then went to FS. The drill was old-school one-on-one, ball carrier and tackler amongst our defense. The ordering was random and so I would, as a FORMER red-shirt freshman QB turned FS, frequently tandem with a DL and execute the very scenario I outlined. I ran the ball to hurt people rather than juke them. But I also wanted to get on the field as a “preferred walk-on” and smashing people was the most obviously NATURAL manner in which to do that.

  59. “while not being bright enough to understand that they’d never survive as a group for 5 seconds in the real world if they had to set up their own functional country or accomplish anything together besides sloganeering.”

    I was aware of that fact —– and how that fact contrasted with the organizational ability of the GOP —— by the time I was 12-15-years-old. Painfully aware of that fact..

    Political “bridge-building’ for me, personally, was just a way to build a political identity that i could actually believe in.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    The pink pussification of pro athletes, i figured, was some lame attempt to “broaden appeal” to female viewers. Stupid as hell.

  60. Sexual degeneracy is the root of savage violence and the PINK is devout dyke’s attempt to converge sexual degeneracy and savage violence through the mainstreaming mechanism of the NFL…

    It shall work DISASTEROUSLY FOR ALL INVOLVED.

  61. The pink pussification of pro athletes, i figured, was some lame attempt to “broaden appeal” to female viewers. Stupid as hell.

    It is definitely an appeal to broaden to female viewers, and for a while it worked very well for the NFL in attracting them as the NFL hit an all time high in viewership and revenue a few years ago. The proliferation of highly social betting pools and easy fantasy football online play also picked up some female viewers.

    But the NFL is going to start losing revenue with white viewers tuning out after the national anthem controversy. White males are getting sick and tired of being blamed as the cause of every single problem across the globe. Older, pro-USA and pro-military white men know that these protests are a not-exactly-veiled criticism of them, because we don’t see blacks who fail to obey police instructions and get themselves shot as the ones being taken to task by Colin Kaepernick, Obama, Hillary or BLM.

    It’s just an early indicator of the breakdown of American national consciousness, and blacks are stupid enough to not see that “blacks hit hardest” will be the major byline that follows all of the coming demographically-inspired changes.

    Just wait until the revenue from pro sports season tickets starts to fall drastically, since those who buy them are overwhelmingly white males aged 30-55.

  62. “because we don’t see blacks who fail to obey police instructions and get themselves shot as the ones being taken to task by Colin Kaepernick, Obama, Hillary or BLM.”

    I’ll tell you one demographic who DOES recognize these posturings for what they are and it’s encouraging: young poor black kids, especially males; during all those social-studies-class treatises on Ferguson, run by idealistic 25-year-old white females from rural Wisconsin, that i noted, the sole dissenters and those ridiculing the standard raycism attribution were those street-raised kids; they know in their bones what’s up and wherein lies the real threat and malice in this country.

    They do have a negative view of the police; and truth be told, the police don’t exactly respect kids from that socio-economic element —- but ‘respecting’ is not the same as ‘preying upon’ a certain poor sector, and the cops do not en masse do the latter.

    Black proles are surprisingly tuned into the American realpolitik; it’s more the mediated feedback loop on races and among varying classes that sites like this take umbrage with.

  63. Back in the 80s it was cool for alpha lawyers to wear the pink collared shirts. They were following the lead of Corbin Bernsen’s character on LA Law. Hard to believe that practicing law was perceived as glamorous only 30 years ago.

    On another note, Game 1 or 2 of the Cubs championship series featured Eddie Vedder as a home plate celebrity fan, and he was wearing a t-shirt that read “Global Citizen” and had a striped rainbow of colors.

    How out of touch is the typical celebrity. Who is Brad Pitt voting for. His ex father-in-law Jon Voight is based though. Apparently he and Angelina do not get along.

  64. “How out of touch is the typical celebrity.”

    Is such a figure, the ‘out-of-touch’ celebrity, conceptually possible in this day and age?

    Here in the West, celebrities define what’s ‘in touch.’

    Maybe a few nostaligic celebs, i.e. “Betty White,” comprise your definition; but any combo of ‘fame’ and ‘zeitgeist’ signifies it’s one and the same.

  65. With “progress” + celebrity…

    “We” get celebrity stooges.

    People can be bought to spiritually, intellectually and physically shame themselves PUBLICLY. Hollywood is the epicenter of such mutually transactional transgressiveness.

  66. If you are a “used-to-be” famous entertainer THEN a fallback to “liberal” proselytizing is your go-to “safety net” to avoid a “starving artist” demise.

    But…

    For everyday Joe entirely submerged in pervasive “liberal” dogma and not with an artsy-entertaining bone in his body… Well… Fallback into “liberal” politics is no “safety net.” It is to be deeper into that which makes your voice even smaller. And so he looks at a “used-to-be” ENTERTAINER (a big voice) who can fallback on “liberal” dogma to avoid “starvation…”

    AND YET DOES NOT REALLY SENSE THE “big voice’s” EQUAL DESPERATION in having to fallback into “liberal” ideology to remain fed, clothed and housed.

  67. Great podcast with Vox Day and Stefan Molyneux. Beginning at 52:15, Stefan connects the r/K-selection differences in basic worldview to one’s reaction to Donald Trump.

    “I totally get that!”, is how a K-selected person reacts when Trump explains why he forgoes an easy old age for the personal sacrifice of his presidential run. In contrast, an r-selected person is incapable of seeing anything from the standpoint of a higher mission or something larger than personal advantage, so they sneer “it has to be an egotistical stunt”. They can only project their own narcissistic hedonistic onto him.

    HERE IS THE PODCAST

  68. Is such a figure, the ‘out-of-touch’ celebrity, conceptually possible in this day and age?

    Celebrities are not in touch with the reality of Trump voters. Ergo, they are out of touch.

    Maybe a few nostaligic celebs, i.e. “Betty White,” comprise your definition; but any combo of ‘fame’ and ‘zeitgeist’ signifies it’s one and the same.

    Celebs do not represent the zeitgeist.

    The zeitgeist as i see it is reactionary, and celebs are understood by real people with real brains and real feelings and real lives, to be vapid airheads, and as such they are far removed from the lived experience of these days and times.

    Celebrity culture might be asserted as the zeitgeist of these times — but only by those who cannot grasp something else something better something more.

    Of course the vast majority of people cannot grasp anything beyond what they are spoon fed, and even of those who would look for something more, some historical context (zeitgeist), most will simply repeat after the chattering classes, which is to say not much. And that extends up to the top pols such as Hillary, who has no accomplishments other than notorious celebrity.

    Celebrity is not the zeitgeist of real people aka those who suffer in Clown World.

  69. “I totally get that!”, is how a K-selected person reacts when Trump explains why he forgoes an easy old age for the personal sacrifice of his presidential run. In contrast, an r-selected person is incapable of seeing anything from the standpoint of a higher mission or something larger than personal advantage, so they sneer “it has to be an egotistical stunt”. They can only project their own narcissistic hedonistic onto him.

    That makes a lot of sense.

    So many liberals are unable to see beyond Trump’s huge ego, to the motivations behind it.

    They resent his huge ego, because they see that as the end-all-and-be-all — and they can’t even get one of their own (such an ego as his), because they don’t have the realworld credibility to back it up, and they don’t have that cred because Life in Not Fair!

    There are winners and losers in life.

    Who thinks that Hillary Clinton is a winner?!

    Her supporters don’t care about anything she has done. They want “their girl” up there.

    There was a link to the Boston Globe about a letter to the editor from an old guy who made the criticism that women in yoga pants are not appropriately attired — and his house was stormed by a flash mob.

    But reading the comments at that article, and the fact that of those 100 or 200 comments, no one would well articulate the beleaguered man’s case nor his point. Those are New England Democrats and “angry women” who see to it that they not be criticized for their fat asses being stretched out in your face.

    But the stupidest comments are from that weird feminist man cuckservative type, who makes that predicable tired joke: “Ooh lala yoga pants i luv em! more ladies, more!”

    No one can articulate the basic dynamics of modesty and appropriate behavior. Because that is controlling and patriarchy is evil and it’s my body and i’ll do what i want with it and if that includes spreading my ass around the supermarket that’s your problem hater.

  70. Maybe I’ve been a bit harsh on thordaddy.

    I can’t believe I’m doing this, but I’ll query our resident Ouija board:

    Thordaddy . . .
    Why do you insist that I’m such a degenerate? Would you say the same of Socrates or Hadrian? Or the more contemporary Alan Turing?

  71. Chuck had a post when NFL started doing the pink uniform accents. He argued that the players have enough alpha capital to pull it off. He had a point. But how much indirect association with pink can fans put up with?

    Also, pink isn’t really a girl color anymore.
    That’s about the most fashion advice you will get from this degenerate here.

  72. “Hillary, who has no accomplishments other than notorious celebrity.”

    Excepting her criminal enterprise (if that counts as an accomplishment).

    The two skill sets for top contemporary pols are criminal and celebrity. Hillary is the master of the first and not very good at the second.

    And yet with the abundance of unhappy and ugly people (many of whom in yoga pants), her miserable celebrity profile gets a pass.

  73. they know in their bones what’s up and wherein lies the real threat and malice in this country.

    Most SJW’s are flummoxed when you tell them that 50% of those killed by cops are white which makes them overrepresented in proportion to the amount of aggregate crime they commit. If you just pay attention to liberal media, you will only see curated videos of cops killing blacks, when in truth, there are many videos white men killed under similar circumstances as say Philando Castille, but they are never publicized in the same way. John McWhorter did a whole informal study on this and wrote about his findings in Time.

  74. I liked that rueful humor, MGE. You have nothing of the Miloesque vibe. I was very surprised at the revelation those several months back.

  75. [hillary’s] miserable celebrity profile gets a pass.

    Say what you will about either candidate, but it is clear to anyone that when watching Trump you can see he really enjoys campaigning… he seems to be having a the time of his life even when he’s losing. Hillary has a dour schoolmarmish persona … she has a paranoid Nixonian quality to her

  76. “Yoga pants need to go.” I said to my wife on Saturday as we beheld a fat woman wearing a pair. “But not right now” I hastily added, “that would be even worse.”

    Seriously, they are unerotic, even on attractive women. I recently saw a young woman with beautiful legs in light colored yoga pants, the pussy cleft pronounced, and it did nothing for me. Elk once described Beyonce as this ugly power-vagina strutting around. Yoga pants are kind of like that.

    Female sartorial sexual appeal lies in the right balance of hidden and revealed. Its best example is a loose sundress. Yoga pants are how you cover/reveal but in the opposite of how it should be done.

  77. Female fashion has had its strange turns. In 86-87, mens boxers (as in underwear) was what all the preppy girls at my high school wore as shorts. There was also a precursor to yoga pants at that same time: the spandex tights. Except those were just worn for sports/running. The more modest girls on my track team wore athletic shorts over them at practices.

  78. Say what you will about either candidate, but it is clear to anyone that when watching Trump you can see he really enjoys campaigning… he seems to be having a the time of his life even when he’s losing. Hillary has a dour schoolmarmish persona

    Mainly because Trump has conviction and actual beliefs, while Hillary has focus groups and targeted messages.

  79. You have nothing of the Miloesque vibe. I was very surprised at the revelation those several months back.

    What’s wrong with Milo? (** besides the frosted hair thing)

    Despite his flamboyance, I’d trust Milo beside me in a war before I’d trust a whole, whole lot of other self-proclaimed conservatives of less guts and less personal investment in rectifying our current predicament.

  80. Female fashion has had its strange turns. In 86-87, mens boxers (as in underwear) was what all the preppy girls at my high school wore as shorts. There was also a precursor to yoga pants at that same time: the spandex tights. Except those were just worn for sports/running

    Didn’t the Canadian founder of yoga pants pioneer Lululemon catch major flack for going on TV and fat shaming all the tubbies with the nerve to wear yoga pants?

    It was a tempest in a teapot. I blame Oprah and her endless “love me for who I am” bullsh*t episodes, books, etc. But the reality is that he only said “some women’s bodies don’t work for yoga pants” — DUH!!

    http://www.returnofkings.com/21645/ceo-speaks-truth-about-fat-women

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2506036/Lululemon-boss-apologizes-saying-fat-thighs-yoga-pants-through.html

  81. “In contrast, an r-selected person is incapable of seeing anything from the standpoint of a higher mission or something larger than personal advantage, so they sneer “it has to be an egotistical stunt”. They can only project their own narcissistic hedonism onto him.”—- or did you mean “onto ‘his'”?

    Yes, I suspect it will be determined in a few weeks whether it’ll be immediately or four years from now that Trump will become a quiet, near-anonymous philanthropist for conservative causes, alternating his charitable funding with stints volunteering in New York soup kitchens.

  82. Yes, I suspect it will be determined in a few weeks whether it’ll be immediately or four years from now that Trump will become a quiet, near-anonymous philanthropist for conservative causes, alternating his charitable funding with stints volunteering in New York soup kitchens.

    What in the h*ell does this even mean?

    You keep trying to dance around the topic, but it’s obvious to everyone here that you like the negrophile Hilary and that you’d never vote for an un-PC white guy.

  83. “What’s wrong with Milo?”

    Sometimes the sun fails to hit the right highlight on his hair. Seriously though, I wrote that to MGE and about Milo in sympathetic spirit to both.

  84. “you like the negrophile Hilary and that you’d never vote for an un-PC white guy.”

    I can’t stand Hillary. And I voted for U.S. Senator Herb Kohl (he’s the negrophile; he owned the Milwaukee Bucks for more than 25 years!!!) .Overall, it’s hard to vote for Wisconsin republicans; they’ve been so very weak: Kasten, Walker, Johnson; total free-trade mercenaries.

    Trump is a psychopath with tantrum-prone ego of a spoiled seven-year-old. Many of you here know that; it’s rare that disappointment creates this much willfull delusion; in a different circumstance, y’all would rip Trump to shreds.

    This is not a popular or easy thing for me to say, given the circumstances of me commenting at this blog. I was very clear about all this a week or so back on this blog. I said I would l ikely abstain from voting this time around and I stated my specific criticism of Trump, which has to do more with his celebrity than his ego, though those two facets are deeply intertwined.

  85. in a different circumstance, y’all would rip Trump to shreds.

    Of course we would – say, if he was running against Buchanan, for instance.

    But (for the 10,000th time) he’s not running for dictator and we conservatives don’t think that it takes a village so we don’t need him to be everything we want to see in a friend, confidant, messiah, social worker, grandmama, school counselor and all-around gubmint superstar extraordinaire. We just need him to close the border.

    We know he’s difficult to get along with, spoiled and has a huge ego, but so what. So does Hillary, but she’s a career politician and has been practicing her fake, video snippet-friendly smiling and baby kissing for well nigh 4 decades so of course she should be good at it by now. But at the core she is just as crazy and deluded as him.

    At least Trump has actually driven a car himself in the last decade, unlike Hilary who hasn’t done so in nearly 35 years.

    And for the 30,000th time – you still haven’t explained what exactly you think that Trump is going to do that is so evil, evil, evil. Since Obama’s election has made every NAM a political expert and pundit-in-practice everyone has now been of the mind that the US Presidency has vast, unlimited powers – and it doesn’t, simply put.

  86. Cam, I here first proposed a Sanders-Buchanan ticket; of course it would never happen but what other realistic way do you see to transcending the mainstream political partisan divides?

    As for the other stiff: we’re clearly talking past each other at this point: your claim of me being obstinate is posturing on your part; to that I retort: for the 10,000th time I’ve repeatedly acknowledged your tempered and qualified enthusiasm re. Trump —– yet, i contend that y’all STILL don’t get it. Even with your tampered down enthusiasm, you’re overlooking his serious, serious flaws. He’s a child, with a child’s tantrums and disaffections……Several months ago, when his candidacy had been declared but was still widely considered theoretical stunt, and the alternative-conservative blogosphere began to coalesce, PA here said it best: “Trump is all we got.”

    That five-word explanation tidily summed things up: you got the symbolic positive charge from what his candidacy REPRESENTED, though in terms of the core man, you got a vainglorious, petty and imbalanced individual…… That assessment is sober and NOT some tepid p.c. browbeating.

    But now the stakes are higher (and I was the first to admit that I was wildly wrong about both the electorate and the man himself taking his candidacy seriously) so the bluster is now higher too.

    Hence, all this nonsense about just how particularly great are Trump’s qualities as a man and how less brave men never could’ve rose to the challenge, etc., blah-blah, woof-woof.

    I’ll say it again, as our blog host presciently put it without hyperbole for y’all: “Trump is all we’ve got.”

  87. “Trump is all we got.”

    I don’t remember what tone I said that in but at this point I see Trump as an actively positive champion, his candidacy may even be Providential. The reasons are: (1) the fact that I recognize the personal sacrifice he’s making and I relate to the notion of sacrifice in the name of higher cause. (2) His nomination acceptance speech, his recent speech in Tampa, followed by his speech at the Al Smith dinner, are clear evidence to me that he is not “in on the joke” with globalists; it’s war and he’s laying everything on the line.

  88. I here first proposed a Sanders-Buchanan ticket

    You did? And with that craziness on the record I will hereby stop debating politics with you forever.

  89. “You did?”

    Yes, it of course was proffered with irony and iconoclasm in mind; I know it wouldn’t happen IRL.

    But think about it: it could end the obligatory partisan gridlock in congress, though some seek out said gridlock; the two are pretty close on free-trade, trade agreements and union-controlled labor.

    The snags would be on immigration and with the usual hardcore divides: abortion, religion in the schools, etc.

    But: if somehow that partisan meld got forged, it would be interesting to see how the gears of congress reacted; as is, there’s just this predictable, rote and tired gridlock.

  90. MGE…

    You’ve never made issue of your homosexuality… Never promoted or advocated it here. That’s commendable and yet exactly what any normal person should do having an awareness of their own self-annihilating ways.

    Where you obviously falter is not seeing your homosexuality as sexual degeneracy AND THE VERY REASON you do not promote and advocate it here.

    But even deeper is simply your denial in possessing God-ordained free will and thus the capacity to reject all sexual degeneracy in favor of a total regeneracy.

    So this ^^^ is exactly where “we” shall battle with you being absolutely resistant in a manner more absolute than any other “thing” that are certain of.

    YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE TRULY FREE…

    You jumping the Trump Train is your own personal “false flag.”

    You are not alone.

    So you feel included.

    And the personal lie becomes a collective truth that you WILL NOT ESCAPE.

    I have helped you to escape.

    You reject my escape plan.

    Here we are… Again. I never tire.

  91. Trump supporters are NOT primarily interested in the man’s character.

    They are inspired by what motivates him — which is the same as their own motivations, which are simply the want of a better country.

    The liberals and their media will endless fixate on his character, and forever ignore the motivations behind it.

    His character is incidental. Yes of course there is some correlation between his being a brash NY asshole, and his willingness to engage with the bullshit. But ultimately that is beside the point. The point is the REAL PROBLEMS that we have. Immigration better known as Population Replacement being of those foremost.

    PA summed it up well, above. Liberals cannot imagine that there are real people whose motivations are long-term and heartfelt.

    So instead of recognizing the realness (and the pain) of the white middle-class they deign to despise, they misattribute the enthusiasm for Trump as cheap and low-rent vulgarity, as in, Oh the Proles just want to be able to say nigger again! that is all they want to do, is to have the permission to fly their hate flags, the Proles cannot! possibly take in interest in realworld politics — they are too stupid for that.

    And that line, by the way, is what Milo has come under criticism for. Because he has repeated that line, and given it credence: that the AR is not about serious men, it is about frogs and shooting down pc dogma. Or at least that was his initial presentation of the AR to the mainstream. But then he was ripped to shred by TRS and others, and he may have changed his tune. His hair is looking a little grayer … and gayer.

  92. But think about it: it could end the obligatory partisan gridlock in congress, though some seek out said gridlock; the two are pretty close on free-trade, trade agreements and union-controlled labor.

    Bernie might’ve been perfect for a Whitopia like Vermont but he has absolutely NO platform or viability on a national level, because he doesn’t have the backbone to stick to anything, unlike Hilary who (despite her flaws) does actually know how to say “no” and make practical political compromises on occasion. When it comes to virtually any issue Bernie will simply yield to any other liberal or crybaby cause to the left of him in saddening fashion, he will just keep falling back like the Egyptian Army.

    Here we are… Again. I never tire.

    You sure don’t.

  93. His character is incidental. Yes of course there is some correlation between his being a brash NY asshole, and his willingness to engage with the bullshit.

    Exactly. To me Trump is just another fast-talking Yankee asshole in his personality. These endlessly unhappy, loud, brash, rude and always complaining people are invading the South in incredible numbers, and it was especially bad when I lived in the Raleigh-Cary vicinity. That area could (literally) be made into another county of Long Island.

  94. In any case, now is (not) a good time to predict the future.

    Trump is gong to Landslide the popular vote, and they are going to try to fraud it, with their practiced shenanigans and then the failsafe electoral college. They are not going to have the delegates go against the vote, but they will concentrate at the pressure points their mishandling of the votes.

    I don’t follow the state by state models, but they are saying Pennsylvania and Florida and Colorado and Wisconsin are all crucial. Florida is probably very rigged up, but on the other hand their popular vote is likely based (my FL bros and ho’s).

    I don’t think that Wisconsin and MN, for all their gayness, will engage in fraud. Their version of fraud is to vote for Hillary outright.

  95. Good point about Bernie’s weakness. I forgot about how he gave up his own stage and rally to two black drama queens.

    Regardless, effective presidents have something Bernie has none of, and it’s not Buchanan’s forte either — executive skills.

  96. “I don’t think that Wisconsin and MN, for all their gayness, will engage in fraud. Their version of fraud is to vote for Hillary outright.”

    C’mon, man! You don’t think I can see through that anti-Rustbelt bluster. Yeah, yeah, yeah…… no one’s saying your totally wrong in your overall assessment.

    But tell me truthfully: What other state do you wish you lived in?

    Yeah, I thought so. Same goes for me.

  97. “What other state do you wish you lived in?”

    As much as I hate Mordor, there are many things I appreciate about it. Where in the US would I rather live? Never been to the upper midwest but the climate and geography are perfect. I like winters, so all of the South is out of the question. Mountain states would be too isolating if you’re not rooted in the local culture.

    Couldn’t live where the men are liberal, so hard-blue states are out. One of the things I appreciate about MD (depending on the county) is that it has a healthy, race-realist and not shy about it redneck-roots middle- and working class.

    Indiana it is.

    UPDATE: Pittsburgh.

  98. “So instead of recognizing the realness (and the pain) of the white middle-class they deign to despise, they misattribute the enthusiasm for Trump as cheap and low-rent vulgarity, as in, Oh the Proles just want to be able to say nigger again! that is all they want to do, is to have the permission to fly their hate flags, the Proles cannot! possibly take in interest in realworld politics — they are too stupid for that.”

    One partisan set of pieties begets the other set —— until one set, umm, Trumps the other, that is…

    IOW: socio-economic-driven sanctimony exists from whatever level point of departure you present or are confronted by. But that’s not what dooms trump; his ego, impulses and appetites are uncontrolled; he’s proven that a million times already. And in fact, any clinical psychologist or even academic Anthropologist worth his sale, could notice and map his physical cues that precede his temperamental hysteria.

    Sorry, elk; but casting Trump as the put upon ‘Working Class Hero (with a caveat) just ain’t gonna do it this time.

  99. Sorry, elk; but casting Trump as the put upon ‘Working Class Hero (with a caveat) just ain’t gonna do it this time.

    In the mind of Trickin, maybe. But the working class of America seems quite happy with him, it’s the SWPL’s, SJW’s and assorted fruits/nuts of the Obama coalition out there getting their panties into a wad because of stray comments he (allegedly) made 10 years ago.

  100. “the Obama coalition out there getting their panties into a wad because of stray comments he (allegedly) made 10 years ago.”

    I don’t think they or any particular constituency gets genuinely upset over Trump’s transgressive utterances, past or present; it’s just tactical politically to cite that shite.

    IDK; i’ve been going over those combined-metric polls at RCP, in which you can combine polls and combine certain obscure metrics —— all the while comparing today configured tabulations with what they were between the two prez candidates in ’12 and ’08 and ’04, all the way back to Carter-Reagan, and even older when involving the most basic polling data.

    And the point being, that Trump, at this rate in mid-Oct, is doing about as poorly as McCain was in ’08… Statistically speaking, a Trump win from here on out would be unprecedented.

    But I do believe new times can set the conditions for new breakawys; i sometimes get the vibe that, along the line that elk is pushing, will created a groundswell of popular vote, that they’re just not showing their hand yet. So who-the-fuck really knows?

    I can say that Trump is the exciting x-factor candidate this year; he was like Obama in ’08. But unlike O, Trump doesn’t have the media fawning over him like Obama did.

    But Trump did get tons of lopsided press just because he was more outrageous —– and to some degree, that helped him early.

    But now, in terms of one-sided editorial sway, the press is opposing Trump outright. And the rebel martrydom push from that is negligible.

  101. I don’t think they or any particular constituency gets genuinely upset over Trump’s transgressive utterances, past or present; it’s just tactical politically to cite that shite.

    You have a bad habit of projecting your maturity and level-headedness onto others who share your skin color or liberal leanings. Trust me, the SWPL’s and SJW’s really do believe all of their shriek-steria, but part of the reason is because they’ve never really had any interest in politics and never felt so empowered to have their every whimper and whine embodied into a political choice.

    In earlier generations politics was just a competition between two staid old white guys who talked about a lot of boring stuff, and who were hard to distinguish from each other. NAM’s, artistic types, liberal college kids, whites under 30 and illegal immigrants didn’t bother because there wasn’t too much at stake arguing between minor points of fiscal policy or levels of NATO armament.

    It’s a new day. When the country was still 85% white and we had a cold war to win not a lot of this stuff mattered.

  102. And the point being, that Trump, at this rate in mid-Oct, is doing about as poorly as McCain was in ’08… Statistically speaking, a Trump win from here on out would be unprecedented.

    Unfortunately, I think you’re correct about this.

    In order to win the election Trump really needed to become a politician at some point (even as late as August) but he hasn’t done that, it’s tough to teach an old dog new tricks, especially when it’s someone who’s always been insanely wealthy like Trump.

    However, he may accomplish more in loss than he could in victory. His recent bitter fight against the MSM for its blatant bias is going to achieve much for the alt right cause, and he’s waging that battle until the very end and probably even after the election if he loses.

  103. Trump only needs to pick off 1-2% of low-to-middle class working “blacks” in a few key swing states and he wins. THAT HE WILL DO THIS IN EVERY STATE might entail the Trumpslide that some predict. Of course, no one would expect the mad-steamed media to report this very “black” news beforehand and have every reason to lay it on “blacks” afterwords.

    Prop Hate birthed Trump’s Fate.

  104. “Never been to the upper midwest but the climate and geography are perfect.”

    I was just sort of casually mulling over the U.S., thinking of places that P.A. might enjoy, based on his avatar disclosures, when something struck me that i’m surprised I never thought of before: some of the nicest, multi-seasonal and northern resort-like land runs up and down the state of Michigan’s western coast along Lake Michigan. And while there are some very fine summer resorts there, there is no major city!

    On the other side of the lake is Green Bay, Milwaukee and Chicago. But on the other, Michigan side, there’s……Holland, Mich and…… Muskegon!

    One other thought: given all the recent upsurge in U.S. immigration, a disproportionate amount of newcomers quite naturally wind up believing that cities like Boston, New York, Washington D.C. and Los Angeles rep the ‘real America.’ But so many of the interior cities would better suit certain immigrant temperaments. It’s my hunch that P.A. would’ve been happier living in Milwaukee or Minneapolis as opposed to living in D.C.

  105. I agree with Nikcrit. D.C. has some fun things to do, but it is crowded and hot. There are better places to live.

  106. When I lived in the Midwest briefly I liked the people there a lot better, they were more sincere and less pretentious than what you see in the Southeast – down here we have that fake friendly that people show towards virtually everyone in public or at first meeting. It does help in little pleasantries like people holding doors for each other or graciously waving you over in traffic.

    And in the Midwest people are a lot less obsessed with conspicuous possessions like cars. Down South the lowers tiers of both blacks and whites spend a ridiculous amount of money on their vehicles.

    But anything North of the the 37 degrees latitude or so is far too cold for me. I like the weather in San Diego, Phoenix or Las Vegas but they’re too far away from family.

  107. DC and its immediate ring of Maryland suburbs/municipalities is hell but: in its NE direction, Baltimore and its environs is a different planet. SE: you’re in rural southern Maryland. W: Alexandria and Arlington on Potomac’s west bank are nice to visit, though they are the epicenter of the military industrial cuck trough (all voted Rubio in the primaries!). Two-three hours further west you are in the Appalachia and you see Confederate flags on homes. NW: West Virginia and MD’s scenic mountain panhandle.

  108. It’s my hunch that P.A. would’ve been happier living in Milwaukee or Minneapolis as opposed to living in D.C.

    My probably unfair impression is that they are flooded by Somalians and the local folk couldn’t be on the same shitlord wavelength with me. Not because they’re Portland faggots, but because they’re too trusting and unaccustomed to dealing with this kind of a demographic shock.

  109. In my experience the whole mini-region of SE Washington DC and stretching thru Prince George’s in Maryland is very similar to the Southern Quadrant of Atlanta (South Fulton, South Dekalb and Clayton Counties) for its demographics and social structure.

    As soon as you start moving into uplands/mountains or high elevation the blacks disappear.

  110. Yes… But the “Midwest” is the epicenter of MKRN gluttony where MRKA’s coasts are the places of violent, sexual degeneracy.

  111. @PA

    The Somalian influx is a Twin Cities thing; Milwaukee’s only highly populous immigrant group are Hispanics, which are still much, much lower than what that means in southern or southwestern towns. Or basically anything west of the Mississippi River. The Midwest is the most homegeneously white population, I’m pretty sure, though Seattle/Portland area may give it a run for its money.

    I could see you living in Milwaukee’s western suburbs; very white, very Goy….. The north shore ‘burbs are finer, and they’re the one’s that are closer to and/or border Lake Michigan.

    But: they’re all but one or two majority Jewish, which i like in terms of ‘good neighbors.’ (it’s funny, the day after any major election, the paper runs those blue-red color-coded maps of which city, burb and township voted what: the north-shore suburbs are all-but-one blue; the western burbs are ALL red, with the explanation being what i said in the first sentence of this paragraph.

    I feel comfortable in both areas—– but my domestic ghetto-hipster gentrification enclave back in the city is where I thrive! 🙂

  112. “When I lived in the Midwest briefly I liked the people there a lot better, “

    Lol!! We already discussed this: Dude, you didn’t live in the Midwester; you lived in freakin’ Kansas.

    Repeat after me: THE-GREAT-PLAINS!

  113. Well, then a lot of Ohio-ans are wrong.

    The Midwest is: Minnesota, Iowa, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Wisconsin.

    The only one in there even mildly up for debate is Indiana; certain fools also argue for Minnesota’s exemption; they too are deluded.

    I wouldn’t mind Indiana being, umm, ‘annexed away?” given its social and cultural pedigree. But geography is where geography goes…

  114. To get one world government, we ARGUE two-state “solution,” so that “we” shall not see a three nation negotiation.

  115. It is good to be in the same macro-region as Indiana, and to some lesser extent Ohio and Illinois.

    It is not only that their place-names start with vowels. The people i have met from there are more down to Earth than those around here.

    Part of that is just the metro thing versus the rural, but it is not just that. It is my impression that the Upper Midwest is very influenced by Germans and Scandis (as per the stereotype) whereas the other Midwest is more a mix of Old American, which may or may not be better people, but they are less delusional about life in general.

  116. On its own merits and in a vaccum, i’d pick Minnesota as the no. 1 state to live in.

    But its practical downfall in reality is its geographic isolation IMO. What’s the closest ‘big’ city? Fargo?. 400 miles to Chicago, for crissakes……

    Milwaukee is in ways inferior to Minneapolis, but its saving grace is being just over an hour from downtown Chicago; that’s huge…..i’ve lived in all threee places, and one can actually sort-of commute and/or do dual residency betweeen milwaukee and chicago with a little creativity and luck in bi-state romance…lol

  117. Both Kansas and Minnesota are firmly in liberated Cucklands… Ohio may have its bottom southeast in the Southern Monopoly?

  118. The liberated Cucklands should be “vallied” by the Rockies to “its” West and the Appalachians to “its” bottom east.

  119. Thordaddy, please tell us about California, though.

    I think I speak for everyone here when I saw that we are dying to hear your surmisal of the Golden State.

    Lol!! We already discussed this: Dude, you didn’t live in the Midwester; you lived in freakin’ Kansas.

    Repeat after me: THE-GREAT-PLAINS!

    LOL, sorry. If it’s past Tennesse and ain’t Texas I got the habit of calling it Midwest. I will work on that.

  120. Obviously, California and Baja California are the CORE of The Land of white Supremacy. The “default elite” in Mexico is ALWAYS negotiable. And only whites with fighter instinct are sticking around in SoCal… Plus… There is that military thing and the utter vastness of California/SoCal/Baja Cali, largely incomprehensible due a myopic focus on the coastline and the San Diego/LA byway.

  121. SoCal girls can rival, but they suffer from a mediocre crowd in a way the Southern girls do not. And, if I might add, those Southern girls give off an air of being successfully monopolized. And so “we” can only wish the Southrons the best.

  122. Obviously, California and Baja California are the CORE of The Land of white Supremacy.

    Can you elaborate? My knowledge of CA is negligible.

  123. California has a large amount of radical “white” autonomists and unrefined “white supremacists” both in its military, its MIGGER population and its low and upper class whites population. Furthermore, there is a Southern California lifestyle that niggers rapped about and sought to ruin and many whites are still willing to fight for if only they knew how to spiritually and intellectually justify such violent physicality which instinctually cuts at the feel that is the California lifestyle. At war in peace is the radical “white” autonomist in SoCal..

  124. thor, what’s your opinion of that Trump link re blacks that you just posted.

    ————————————————————————————————————————–

    P.A.,
    That is a interesting vid by Moore; he leaves his Trump denoument quite ambiguous in the do-I-or-don’t-I like him aspect. He could be correct; his view and declaration that there exists a clandestine groundswell of ‘The Donald” support jibes with sub_elk’s observations, i.e., that Trump will kill oin the popular vote but get manipulated by the electoral college, etc. Then there’s Thor’s Trump-black-vote vid, suggesting there too lies a unlikely source of support…. I feel this is hte year in wihch the country could revert back its collective ethos 50-plus years and go into a classic paleo-con fantasia, OR, if not that, go eqaully askew in the other direction, becoming a p.c. dictatorship. These are weird times.

  125. Obviously, California and Baja California are the CORE of The Land of white Supremacy.

    I dunno about that, California is full of sanctuary cities and recently lost its white majority and we’ve heard nary a whimper from WS there on any of that. California just keeps electing liberals and passing 5 times as many taxes and regulations as any other state.

    Whites are leaving CA in droves but the state still insists on giving drivers licenses to illegal immigrants while also handing out welfare benefits to illegals at 10 times the rate of any other state.

  126. Whites are leaving CA in droves

    And they bring liberalism to the states they run to like AZ, ID and CO. Similar to how liberal New Yorkers and Marylanders have almost fouled up North Carolina.

  127. Obviously, California and Baja California are the CORE of The Land of white Supremacy.

    Ryu or maybe Firepower also said something along those lines. Ill defer to those who know California better than I do.

  128. ‘”The “default elite” in Mexico is ALWAYS negotiable.”

    One could ruminate on this adage for hours — perhaps years. Seems very true.

  129. “When it comes to hot college girls nothing beats the South, though.”

    Texas and Florida are tied up in this regard, all the way. Louisiana (Tulane, etc) a close third.

  130. UNC-Chapel Hill and the University of Georgia have an endless supply of hot girls, both are around 60% female.

  131. My trucker friend i’ve mentioned here before; the showband drummer who spends about 25-days-per-year on the road says California as we knew it is gone, long-gone. It’s a foreign city, for all practical intents and purposes…… I started to notice the things he laments ten years ago, when i last routinely traversed to L.A. as a “junketeer”… The last year or two, i preferred to stay at hotels by the airport, since the novelty had worn off and it was a lot more efficient in terms of commuting, parking and other peripheral hassles of work travel. In any case, I don’t get Thor’s point; how can Cali be a Ws stronghold when its white population is nosediving?

  132. how can Cali be a Ws stronghold when its white population is nosediving?

    It is a wS flashpoint because its white population is skydiving.

    Where is the youtube of that based musclehead, “Make me my tortilla motherfucker and build that fuckin wall!”

    It is Arizona, but same difference,

  133. — I mean, it’s not my blog, but this seems quite a silly departure, no?

    Well, the new post is more than one-day old, so O.T. is fine by me.

  134. I mean, it’s not my blog, but this seems quite a silly departure, no?

    Or in the alternative, you could lessen your percentage of the total post count.

    What percentage of the total posts is nikcrit? No offense intended, Trickin, but it is worth noting that far-and-away the highest post count here is yours.

    I don’t have the data at my disposal, but there is no doubt that that is the case. Second and third would be Camlost and thordaddy, and i would be outside the medal count but within the points.

    In other words, it’s not enough that Trickin has the most posts, but he would also moderate the topic?

  135. The data has been posted by the blog host; i’m far and away the lead big mouth….. Hey, it’s in my vocational bloodlines; i’m a retired reporter and critic; i can type over 100 wpm’s on deadline. And I use my commenting here as brainstorming rough drafts for a lot of my district’s ‘cultural assessment’ reports….. so, elk, am I now vindicated?

    I was just saying it seemed a tad Maxim-ish for a bunch of guys, mostly in their 40s, to be making rather nominal observations like….. “Hey, girls from the Big-10 are the hottest, dude!” (That would be MY regional contribution to the discussion at least).

  136. how can Cali be a Ws stronghold when its white population is nosediving?

    It is a wS flashpoint because its white population is skydiving.

    Not to mention that its white population is cluelessly liberal, unarmed, 95% urban and already in range of Mexican hordes who will simply walk across the border during periods of unrest.

  137. I am guilty of some verbal hysteria now and then too, and have been warned off it.

    It is a privilege to comment here. Abusing that privilege is a loser’s move.

    That is one thing about MPC and their ratings system, about which SoBL has written. Every post gets voted up and or down, and so their standards are kept high. The criticism might be that it encourages too much group-think, but that criticism is a bit hackneyed for reasons that have been covered.

    That criticism of groupthink is not applicable in that situation, because the consensus that is forming is the very white consensus that is at issue.

    That is The Mission, in the larger sense, is to form some consensus around explicitly White political advocacy.

    **************

    And there is no place in that for jokes about hs girls. That is probably true. High school girls are absolutely unavailable. They need to be turned out by the players at school first, and then they are up for grabs.

  138. PA: “Indiana it is.”

    I know someone who makes several annual trips to Indianapolis; in years ;past it was to go to the 500 race but he’s also a big-time Colts fan. Anyhow, his love for the city isn’t just sports-related; i hear real good things about it in terms of the metrics just touted here. It wouldn’t be for me (bit too Goy for my mongrel blood), but I think PA would like it, (though i get the feeling the city might be a bit too unintellectual or even anti-intellectual in how it expresses itself as a cultural imprint.)

    But going by my several trips to D.C., I can’t think of a more perfectly bad fit for a guy with PA’s temepermanet, (at least going by his online avatar, that is).

  139. “We are still waiting for Trickin’s long form article, about the AR and its denizens. I hope the pseudonyms will not be unflattering.”

    Around the first week in August, I sort of lit a fire under my ass and got down to business; prior to that period, I had done the bulk work of compiling in roughly chronological order every comment i made since the last few months of GPL….. Then, in recent weeks i wrote some cursory connective conjuncture, at least turning the random list of comments into something close to a coherent narrative…. Then: school reconvened, and i’m bogged down in repetitious reports and meetings up the arse; now, i leave work, go workout for a hour, then want to come home and watch cable and crash…..I WILL, however, get it together and make progress; my big regret though: I wish, wish, wish I archived my remarks from OneSTDV and the first two-thirds of the GL Piggy era! That, and its predecessor, Guy White, is where I blew my commenting wad, so to speak; all the stuff since then, which i do have archived, is pretty much rehash….

    Plus, along with regular work energy-draining writing, i’ve had two or three small freelance procjects that have sapped away precious time and energy.

    It’s a lot harder following a deadline when you don’t have a higher-up editor breathing down your neck. lol.

  140. After saying “Indiana” I realized how imperfect a choice it is. It seemed culturally and geographicly good: cold climate, shitlord men. But my favorite areas in the United States have something of rooted Europe in its landscape. Boston, New England, especially northern NJ, which still gives me a quickening.

    Indiana is too featureless and rural for me. Poland is too, but it’s peppered with ancient small towns and forests, and a large crucifix on every rural intersection (see Google streetview for yourself), and I’m a city guy with family in the country sort anyway, with Warsaw always being my first and last hometown.

    On the practical side, the northeast offers easier and cheaper flights to Europe and my social life/friends are here.

  141. Thing about upper Midwest and the Green Bay-Milwaukee-Racine-Kenosha-Chicago corridor; since the ocean coasts have long-been sewn up and super-gentrified, and in more recent decades, they’ve turned the Gulf Coast into a exclusive resort —– coastal Midwest cities are the only ‘regular-folk’ towns that have such features; personally, i think living here is a secret trove of riches, and i fear the word gets out to developers and they start doing here what they did to Seattle and Portland over the last 30 years: turn them into exclusive playpens for the internationally rich.

    That fear, in fact, is why I’m glad the Midwest has maintains certain unfixable ‘unattractive’ features, like below-zero days in January, etc.; it helps keep the multimillionaire investors away — (though Seattle’s murk didn’t seem to scare off the big buck players)

  142. I have a highschool daughter…

    All my good friends have arsenals…

    And Orange County is THE REAL HOME to the Hollywood “white supremacist” only in need of focused refinement.

  143. Everyday migger can be paid to do anything EXCEPT betray his blood…

    Everyday nigger can hardly be bribed to do anything OTHER THAN betray his blood.

    Where does that leave the radical “white” autonomist?

  144. Seattle and Portland over the last 30 years: turn them into exclusive playpens for the internationally rich.

    Portland? I had no idea.

    A lot of the reason the West Coast is so expensive doesn’t have anything to do with foreign investment – it’s the high amount of regulation that drives building costs sky high. Also, Portland limits exurban development – you can’t just keep slapping up McShopping Centers and McSubdivisions going outward, you are forced to do the more expensive work of renovating existing plots and they really do have a comprehensive “infill” development plan based on urban walkability and public transportation as compared to the McSprawly sunbelt.

    All of that is great for the environment, bad for building costs but completely unsustainable unless you’re in a whitopia with their kind of demographics.

  145. Nikcrit…

    {{{They}}} are deconstructing one of their adopted “sons” GONE “rogue.”

    Believe it..

    Or not?

  146. In other words, now {{{they}}} must show “us” how {{{they}}} made “Donald Trump.” It’s a form of convergence where you take an adversary’s victory and PUBLICLY Narrate on how you ultimately created the “adversary” in the first place.

  147. The most uncharitable stories about Trump’s earlier public persona, when contrasted against his current work, simply tell a story of the prodigal son’s redemption.

  148. does this record of public profile bespeaks of a man intent to “Make America Great Again?”

    OMG OMG OMG… Trump got on TV and promoted himself?!…. how scandalous!!

    Stop being a freaking pansy, first you announce that you’re now disgusted by the thought of nubile young women and now this…

    [LOL! — PA]

  149. The attacks on Donald Trump are a predictable given at this time before Final Liberation…

    His most vicious attacks are made by the most sexually degenerate themselves ONLY through the hypocrisy that is his traditional, conservative Christian support. He is also violently attacked by the result of this wide spread sexual degeneracy WHERE he tends to and favors the regenerate aspect of the white race… One plus one equals… Trump is attacked for his “white supremacy” whether real or deceived.

    Buttjew no!!!

    There is a third predictably GIVEN ATTACK which is Trump as Jew Puppet… Trump as a tool of “Jewish supremacy.” The Jew qua Jew is an anti-Supremacist.

    Clean up your sex act…
    Learn to fight for your life…
    Snip the pooppet strings.

    wS–>/<–S^^

  150. “OMG OMG OMG… Trump got on TV and promoted himself?!…. how scandalous!!

    Stop being a freaking pansy, first you announce that you’re now disgusted by the thought of nubile young women and now this…”

    Lol. You keep trying to make me out to be some cloistered prude, even though I’m neither cloistered nor prudish.

    Disgusted by nubiles? Proper place and time, you over-aged boys. I’m sorry, but i got oout of college nearly 25 years ago and it’s not healthy to live in the past. FWIW, I’ll put up my “nubiles,’ past and present, with that of any of you randy man-o-sphere types.

    Back in the day, fellows like you would send a lynch party after the likes of me.

  151. If there is a race to the Singularity… Then evil “white man” gets there through mass “white” self-annihilation and the amplifying effect of an emergent “default elite” to which he seeks to ensconce himself. On the other hand, the wS “races” to the Singularity EXACTLY HOW HE IS SUPPOSED TO… One perfecting glide at a time ALWAYS PREPARED to “dance” in order to avoid the fate of the collaterally damaged.

  152. Back in the day, fellows like you would send a lynch party after the likes of me. — Nikcrit

    Lol… Only because you are so tight-lipped about your desire for “white supremacy” and so your immersion by pleasurable proxy is an actual utterance of contempt for those you imagine will have lynched you.

    Cog-diss, does not, Miss.

  153. “so your immersion by pleasurable proxy is an actual utterance of contempt for those you imagine will have lynched you.”

    Well, that’s one theory based one compulsive perspective—- but I would say it was more a matter of “proximity.”

    Proximity of the ‘too much too soon” variety.

  154. Cam,
    Think about how absurd it is for you to claim that I’m ‘indignant’ or ‘prudish’ about the type of podiums Trump has chosen to promote himself on over the years.

    As if that was the friggin’ point.
    C’mon man; i’m talking about the consistent tawdriness of the venue’s particulars.

    And you know it.

    Because of it was any other figure and context being considered here, you would totally agree with me and we wouldn’t even be having this debate.

    And you know it.

  155. Cam,
    Think about how absurd it is for you to claim that I’m ‘indignant’ or ‘prudish’ about the type of podiums Trump has chosen to promote himself on over the years.

    You’re a black man hazing a tizzy over some dude bragging about chasing tail.

    Think about how absurd that is.

    You ought to be a panelist on The View right beside Joy and Whoopie.

    Disgusted by nubiles?

    If you’re in “transition” to a new orientation it’s ok, just tell us what preferred gender pronoun you’ll be using henceforth. lol

  156. tizzy over tail bragging? I didn’t note Trump doing that; rather, I was laughing at how cheesy was his long string of TV-sit-com cameos and other television appearances; hardly the canon of a budding statesman. Lol…

    I’m not disgusted by nubiles; FWIW, i’m quite content with my past catalog of conquests….and if you must now, I’ll tell you this in all honesty and candor: as a black biracial middle-age male of decent looks and condition < and who has no children and who is single and has no kids and no police record and is currently not on probation or has any record whatsoever and has a nice income to boot i have as many or more opportunities today than I had in my prime and virile salad days. lolzzz.

    Straight up, man!

  157. p.s.—— someone once told me that with my particular demographic details, a guy like me in my city has 12 available females for every single similarly-demographic’ed males…

  158. p.s.—- the Vikings had a baptism of fire from their new venue and new players, but are starting to recede. That GB-vs-Minn regular season finale at Lambeau will bring things back to historical norms; my prediction? 45-17, GB.

  159. p.s.—— someone once told me that with my particular demographic details, a guy like me in my city has 12 available females for every single similarly-demographic’ed males…

    Well if you like professional, educated black women (of say 60K+ income and beyond) I’m guessing you can find 5-10 of those for every comparable, stable, marriageable black male in Atlanta. The achievement gap is widening. I know because I have a bunch on my payroll, and they’re always hurting for a man. (but almost all of them are never-married single moms, though)

  160. — hardly the canon of a budding statesman. Lol… (Nikcrit)

    Yes, let’s swap him for Romney and his resume.

    Come on dude, it’s like you haven’t understood or just forgot every single word of explanation, here or elsewhere and up thru this morning’s comments, of how Trump is not like all that appeared in politics before.

  161. Nikcrit…

    Are you not seeing the predictable attack you are now virtually given to fall into?

    Who has who on the pooppet strings and this shitting thread of reality?

  162. @et.al, re. Trump:

    A) not being too serious; B) i hear what you’re saying, but specifically re. PA’s last remark about me not tuning into recent discussion re. Trump’s supposed ‘unprecedentedness”….. yeah, yeah, but here’s the thing: you guys are disregarding how TOTALLY capable he is of not only going off AR script, but how capable he is of doing something absolutely, positively symbolically fatal to his ‘larger refreshing mythology’; his god and id and destiny is his raging ego; if the most prime AR signifying gets in the way of that, so be it, in a nanosecond…..

    Ok, maybe i’m biased against celebrity. in any case, we’ll find out in a few weeks, and i’ve already proven quite fallible and wrong in my ‘predictivity,’ as the pollsters say.

    I’ve been humble about that all along. As for all this Ying-Yang ‘game’ chitchat, i’ll just agree to bite my tongue, which i do almost all the time.

    I don’t take that aspect of the AR seriously.

  163. thor, no i don’t see it, nor do i know what you’re getting at. but i do have a quick question: are you saying that the northern or whatever part of Baja is actually under U.S. jurisdiction? I did a quick Wiki lookup and i couldn’t discern the summation offered and didn’t feel like delving further. So you bing a San Diego rez, i’ll defer to a quick answer of yours….I never went there; only have been in San Diego twice; stayed in La Jolla once when there with my ex.

  164. “UPDATE: Pittsburgh.”

    Actually, while I know you’re being none-too-serious about this hypothetical, Pittsburgh might be perfect for someone with your midwest sensibilities but beltway friends and family connections: i’ve repeatedly heard that Pittsburgh is like a slightly more Cosmopolitan Milwaukee, but with it being that much closer to the East Coast, a bit more upscale in all the ways one might figure givne said difference between the two cities.

    I always regret not having gotten to New York City more often; for all that junketing and other work travel, five-times out of six, that meant going to LA, which i grew to loathe; i even got tired of the Bay Area, which is pretty enjoyable by most when you’re in that ‘travel-expense’ zone class and not spending your own dimes. But that got tiring too, though nowhere else in the country can top the visual splendor of the North Bay area, dusk and dawn views included.

    Perhaps i’m just entering settling modus in terms of priori-census; i could be happy stateside year-round these days, with perhaps a few Door County ‘junkets’ in summer of a week or two. lol

  165. “Well if you like professional, educated black women (of say 60K+ income and beyond) I’m guessing you can find 5-10 of those for every comparable, stable, marriageable black male in Atlanta. The achievement gap is widening. I know because I have a bunch on my payroll, and they’re always hurting for a man. (but almost all of them are never-married single moms, though)”

    Well, in my locale, the over-35 lopsided availability of females to non-incarcerated males is a rainbow coalition; mainly black and Hispanic and Puerto Rican (who don’t consider themselves ‘Hispanic’ here; yeah, i know…) but also includes many-upon-many white females here; thing is, though, all these women have at least one kid and their progeny is at that problematic age, teens to young 20s, in which they’re doing drugs or sellling drugs or fucking up in college or getting into clashes with loser boyfriends, etc., ad infinitum, …….. i’ve mentioned at times on this blog some of my regrets at not becoming a father; well, it’s this particualr social set, these mature-yet-eligible women, who are the ones that often roll their eyes and tell me that i’m ‘lucky’ to not have kids, lol!

  166. Been to Pittsburgh twice and liked it. Once stopped by there while driving to Cleveland but bad weather limited my sightseeing, and once in 2002 for a work trip but the minimal leisure time was spent at a restaurant near the hotel with coworkers.

    I visit NYC at least once a year, a weekend trip with friends. Favorite hangout: Barcade in Brooklyn. Never gets old: walking one of the bridges.

  167. Five or ten years ago, Pittsburgh had a rep for being a sort of Whitopia, and Jon “the Phenotype” deNugent liked to extoll the virtues of rural Pennsylvania.

    *****************

    They used to say that the Ohio River Valley was the most beautiful place in the world, back when America was enamored of its grand panorama.

  168. As for all this Ying-Yang ‘game’ chitchat, i’ll just agree to bite my tongue, which i do almost all the time.

    I don’t take that aspect of the AR seriously.

    The intersection of Game and AR is not incidental.

    Both PA and I have written on this topic, and the concept is simple enough. Women are booty and to the victor goes the spoils.

    Five ten years ago, before the reactionary right had become what it is now, a lot of, uh shall we say frustrated, young men were figuring out that their women were eluding them, and putting the pieces together what that was about.

    Why were their women eluding them; why are white women in the west, hard for their counterparts to get ahold of and sink their penises into?

    A part of that answer, is how the lives of these young (white) men are intertwined fractals within the macro patterns of history, in which white people are on the defensive, and how that is effecting their value in the free-for-all of the wider sexual marketplace.

  169. I messed up the quote tags in my previous comment.

    The first two ‘graphs are a quote of nikcrit,

    As for all this Ying-Yang ‘game’ chitchat, i’ll just agree to bite my tongue, which i do almost all the time.

    I don’t take that aspect of the AR seriously.

  170. With all due respect to other commenters and the wider sphere, i believe i have made that point as clearly and forcefully as anyone.

    About how the sexual marketplace reflects out the race dynamics that are transpiring in society at large.

    If Whites are not doing as well in a particular time and place — say for instance in Southern California — well then their value in the SMP will reflect that.

    Again, it is an obvious point, and a lot of people will say that it is so obvious that it doesn’t need to be said, but in my opinion the real reason it is unsaid is because it is shameful.

    It is a confession and acknowledgement of failure loss and defeat.

    And who wants to hear about that?

    So instead of such sad stories, the overwhelming compensatory tone of game blogs and (white) MRA in general.

  171. Thor: not sure how to interpret that. Are you asking if Trump is a Jew apologist for black voters? No idea what you’re getting at. Be more clear.

  172. Nikcrit…

    YOU cannot reallly stump Trump with his sexually degenerate ways nor can you trump Donald where he HONESTLY tends to and shows favor towards white regeneracy. This REALLY leaves you to attack “Donald Trump” as the manufactured psychops of “Jewish supremacy.”

    You are at the “bottom” of the race-realist conclusion.

  173. You’ve never made issue of your homosexuality… Never promoted or advocated it here. That’s commendable and yet exactly what any normal person should do having an awareness of their own self-annihilating ways.

    Where you obviously falter is not seeing your homosexuality as sexual degeneracy AND THE VERY REASON you do not promote and advocate it here.

    Thordaddy. . .

    It’s never something I’ve thought worthy of promotion. I said earlier that adopted the straight avatar of “MGE” because I wanted to experience a camaraderie that I don’t get so much in real life, but ever since I’ve been outed by a certain someone my fears have been unfounded. I don’t agree that I am self-annhiliating, but then again I don’t understand what you mean by that.

    For what it’s worth, I don’t cosign to really any serious politicization of homosexuality, gay marriage included. I agree with Dolce and Gabbana’s stance on gay marriage and adoption. The couple said in an interview: “We oppose gay adoptions. The only family is the traditional one. . . No chemical offsprings and rented uterus: life has a natural flow, there are things that should not be changed…. The family is not a fad. In it there is a supernatural sense of belonging.”

  174. You have nothing of the Miloesque vibe. I was very surprised at the revelation those several months back. (PA)

    You’re right, I am not at all flamboyant. I can’t pull it off. I have a stoic disposition.

  175. And that line, by the way, is what Milo has come under criticism for. Because he has repeated that line, and given it credence: that the AR is not about serious men, it is about frogs and shooting down pc dogma. Or at least that was his initial presentation of the AR to the mainstream.

    I think there’s some truth to that. Like most gay men, Milo is a fame whore… he will do anything for his 15 minutes. It’s an exaggerated response to a deep seated fear of social rejection. Milo stumbled into the alt-right accidentally when he covered Gamergate as a tech editor for Breitbart. It was there he found notoriety that he has milked that in his Dangerous Faggot tour. I think he is sincere in most things he says, but he does it through the taboo shattering performance art in the tradition of Oscar Wilde or John Waters. The way to do that is to adopt outlandish caricature that can disarm people through it’s sheer ridiculousness but simultaneously mock and ridicule pieties of the prevailing culture. In our culture basically the only taboos left are race and gender.

  176. Mainly because Trump has conviction and actual beliefs, while Hillary has focus groups and targeted messages. (Camlost)

    Way back in 2008, Camille Paglia said of Hillary:
    “But Hillary herself, with her thin, spotty record, tangled psychological baggage, and maundering blowhard of a husband, is also a mighty big roll of the dice. She is a brittle, relentless manipulator with few stable core values who shuffles through useful personalities like a card shark (“Cue the tears!”). Forget all her little gold crosses: Hillary’s real god is political expediency. Do Americans truly want this hard-bitten Machiavellian back in the White House? Day one will just be more of the same.”

  177. — Milo stumbled into the alt-right accidentally when he covered Gamergate as a tech editor for Breitbart.

    I believe that he struck up a friendship with Vox Day in the heat of Gamergate, which surely also pulled him into the Alt-Right. Vox wrote “SJWs Always Lie” in its wake and Milo wrote the foreword to the book.

  178. “You are at the “bottom” of the race-realist conclusion.”

    thor, over the years, week-to-week, day-by-day, you’ve declared i’m everything from a deracinated radical autonomist to, ironically,, a sincere seeker of white supremacist while the other white bloggers (on that occasion) received the ‘radical autonomist’ treatment from you.

    All the while, i’m steadily unsure of what you’re talking about.

    So just how should take your latest description?

    I find you occasionally profound, but what good are your remarks in that other 95% of the time when nobody knows wtf you are talkign about?

    Am I alone in that query? You tell me.

  179. i even got tired of the Bay Area, which is pretty enjoyable by most when you’re in that ‘travel-expense’ zone class and not spending your own dimes. But that got tiring too, though nowhere else in the country can top the visual splendor of the North Bay area, dusk and dawn views included.

    I agree! Which is while I will be high-tailing it out of here in a month for my new short term gig north of the bay… rest assured I will be back … the real estate there is out of my league.

  180. Vox wrote “SJWs Always Lie” in its wake and Milo wrote the foreword to the book.

    I’ve been meaning to get around to reading that. . . but I’m skeptical that it will tell me anything I don’t know already.

  181. — I’m skeptical that it will tell me anything I don’t know already.

    His latest book “Cuckservative” fit that description for me. It is written for audiences who aren’t alt-Right savvy, but it does include interesting facts about American history in the context of immigration.

    “SJWs Always Lie” is also aimed at general audiences but includes excellent original analysis of the SJW attack and how to defend yourself from it. You’ll also find a good discussion on Aristotlean rhetoric vs dialectic and its applicability to contemporary ideological wars. I recommend passing on “Cuckservative” but buying “SJWs Always Lie.”

  182. “he does it through the taboo shattering performance art in the tradition of Oscar Wilde or John Waters. The way to do that is to adopt outlandish caricature that can disarm people through it’s sheer ridiculousness but simultaneously mock and ridicule pieties of the prevailing culture.”

    True, but the outlandish caricature is also a mask for a seething dollop of self-loathing; I”m sympathetic to that fact but said fact nonetheless remains and is a prime motivator. Ironically, and quite to my surprise, in this instance, Thor’s earlier “regeneracy” address to you offers some advice and/or direction to you in regard to this particular comment of yours IMO.

    FWIW, I’ve dealt with such ‘self-annihilating’ personal dynamic too during stages of my life; mine, of course, involving racial ambiguity and culturally ‘fitting in,’ as one might readily presume.

  183. Ironically, and quite to my surprise, in this instance, Thor’s earlier “regeneracy” address to you offers some advice and/or direction to you in regard to this particular comment of yours IMO.

    Nikcrit, I don’t make a habit of taking advice from schizophrenics on the street corner, and neither will I be following the sage wisdom of “Thordaddy.”

  184. Cam,
    I find that Li’l Wayne interview intriguing; he makes a lot of points that I and others here make, even though he doesn’t have the learned academic context and rhetoric as much intact.

    I believe him. Or more important, i think he reps the american youthful consensus more than does hte alt-right, or the boomer-era left, or whatever organ of dissent which claims aloud to have cultural heft and authority.

    I think it’s easy for us older ‘reflective’ types to overlook the mediated frame that under-30 america lives in; the multi-kulti panorama —- be it fake, falsely mediated, calculating or whatever —- is nonetheless REAL in their lives, real in how much they are confronted by it. At a certain ;point, it doesn’t matter if it’s propaganda or reflective of the cultural realpolitik; it is what it is and it’s a real fukin’ force in their lives.

    As part of a ‘administrative exchange,’ i’ve been in many border-suburban-district schools this week, and it’s true there; and some of these places are radically different than my usual metro range of places, with white enrollments upward of 75%; it’s the same shit there, with whiggerism in some places off the charts.

    Ironically, this is unsettling to me in a personal way; it sort of throws off the entire romanticized angst and identity obstacles that were monumental in my youth. But instead of some heroic and romantic resolve stepping in to make sense of my burdensome journey in youth, those old hurdles have simply…… disappeared, vanquished by a tepid overflow of integrated pop culture. Poof! Presto! All that stuff in the past is gone!

  185. But even deeper is simply your denial in possessing God-ordained free will and thus the capacity to reject all sexual degeneracy in favor of a total regeneracy.

    If this is what you are referring to then you simply have no fucking clue as to the lengths I have gone to reconcile who I am with God… you are talking to someone who literally spent years of my life attempting to “pray the gay away”. And speaking of sexual degeneracy, isn’t it you who never ceases to remind us of your insanely high notch count? I’m sure theres a trail of broken hearts from Chicago to LA with your name on it. Get off your high horse.

  186. MGE,

    No, the degeneracy was a poor fit for me and my psyche; but the opportunties presnted themselves and i was confused why there was no gratification; in fact, that comprised the gist of my sole depressive episode…..

    You mistook my remark about you; your ‘pray the gay away’ lament was painful, as was my late-teens ‘racial-erasure’ phase—– until i accepted both my physical fate and my ambivalence towards it; ditto for you and your ‘gay’ shame/acceptance…… I actually meant the inverse of what you say i have no clue about, etc.

    That or I did a piss-poor job expressing as much.

  187. Like most gay men, Milo is a fame whore — MGE

    Because I only know you by your words, MGE, the bolded above signifies your subconscious desire for self-annihilation. Homosexuality PROPER is WAR AGAINST MAN.

    And War Against Man is LIKE ASKING FOR ANNIHILATION.

  188. Praying to God to reject self-annihilation when He has already knowingly possessed one with free will IS AKIN to telling God that you reject His gift of free will. And this is the basic issue for those homosexuals who find nothing particularly advocable about their homosexuality and yet mistake this personal indifference/lack of politicization for that which can neutralize the self-annihilating effect of a closeted homosexual praxis. It cannot and does not.

    The larger issue though is not whether one was born a self-annihilator or brainwashed into self-annihilation. The BIG issue is that if one is into a self-annihilation and he keeps it to himself then he will get what he wants with his own consent… BUT IF HE ADVOCATES for self-annihilation PUBLICLY THEN he is terminable without consent.

  189. “Gay men” is no such thing… A radically NONSENSICAL “social construction” by the sheer senselessness of the phrase. An oxymoron. A conceivable paradox. A desire for self-annihilation. A declaration of refutation.

  190. MGE…

    Would it help you that I conceive “Liberalism” as the political manifestation of the homosexual “nature?” “Liberalism” conceived of as self-annihilation.

  191. What this memes, MGE, is that the “ineffectual right” ACTUALLY authors the victorious “creation” myths of perpetuating “white” self-annihilation, i.e., political “Liberalism.”

  192. Back in the day, fellows like you would send a lynch party after the likes of me.

    JFC and LULZ…. c’mon Tarantino. If there’s a shotgun-wielding KKK member lurking behind every tree then how did you make it here to 2016 safe and intact?

    Black/white relationships are far more common down South than anywhere you’ve ever lived, and if you can name someone murdered for being in a B/W relationship anywhere over the last 35 years then please send us a link. I think you’re vastly overestimated the number of BW relationships you see up there.

    There’s few blacks in those upper Midwestern states and they’re concentrated in dense neighborhoods. The South is far less segregated and you have a lot of mixing between middle class blacks and lower-income, single-mother raised whites.

    I think you’re also assuming that white women who are friendly to you are equally accessible to the average black man who doesn’t share your same “Nordic interior” and speech/behavioral demeanor, lol.

  193. Why do you insist that I’m such a degenerate? Would you say the same of Socrates or Hadrian? Or the more contemporary Alan Turing?

    @ MGE – with all due respect, WTF are you doing with this looking for someone’s online approval? Who cares what people think? They’re not changing and you’re not changing, so tell people to kiss your a*ss if they don’t like something about you.

  194. And there is no place in that for jokes about hs girls. That is probably true. High school girls are absolutely unavailable. They need to be turned out by the players at school first, and then they are up for grabs.

    Well, if Trickin’ is completely scandalized and panty-wadded by Trump making a few stray coochie jokes 25 years ago, just imagine the brutally unsympathetic treatment you’re gonna get when he goes to Rolling Stone with his tell-all expose on infiltrating the alt-right.

    You’ll be something like “Cosmopolitan Caribou, the Chester”.

  195. — just imagine the brutally unsympathetic treatment you’re gonna get when he goes to Rolling Stone with his tell-all expose on infiltrating the alt-right.

    If such mags even exist at that point. Nikcrit, is that why SOBL banned you?

  196. I will offer my impressions of Trickin’s motivations for participating here, beyond typical motivations that everyone has for entertainment and education. And he can deny or confirm these motivations, but these are my impressions, and they will stand. And i have said them before.

    He wants to get at the personalities behind the racism, and cast them in such a light as to ease his mind.

    For a long time, this was the Alinsky-ite tactic of smearing the messenger and ignoring the message. And it was somewhat effective because back 30 years ago the only people complaining about “white genocide” were fringe characters. But that no longer maintains.

    Things have shifted so radically, that such a tactic is 20 years out of date. As an “African American” and (former) zuckerboard acquaintance put it,

    Red is the new black

    Which was pithy and gets bonus points for the color-coding, and it means that conservative politics are now what is cool. Now we are the cool kids.

    However, i came into race politics for personal reasons. I got to thinking what was happening on the street, and why white people were on the defensive.

  197. And as for the high school girl thing, let’s get real.

    It is a taboo that is supposed to be respected, in reactionary conservative circles, and a part of traditional mores.

    But that is ironic if red-pill thinking is supposedly based on biology and reality.

    How many times, at for instance CH, is it proclaimed that women are at their best-looking at age 22 or 25, or whenever. Really, 25?

    For 99+ per cent of our evolution, it was imperative to get going on the children, and that is how we are wired. The age of consent in Canada was 14 until whenever, back before Canada became Tumblr: The Country.

    When did you lose your Innocence? I was a late bloomer and didn’t get to stick it in until age 17.25 and as i recall the girl was 15 or 16. True to my halfway countryboy upbringing it was outside and around a fire. Good times!

  198. Cam: “JFC and LULZ…. c’mon Tarantino. If there’s a shotgun-wielding KKK member lurking behind every tree then how did you make it here to 2016 safe and intact?”

    (Sigh). I thought it was obvious. But for those tone-deaf to sarcasm and humor, I was joking; I was rubbing in the fact that you would’ve been jealous if you saw some of the girls i dated at that time – though some were NAMs, so that would’ve lessened the blow……. (these convos become so ridiculous if they’re taken out of the moment’s context; to wit: now I’m sounding too serious and overly explanatory for the mood i’m trying to convey, etc.)

  199. I was rubbing in the fact that you would’ve been jealous if you saw some of the girls i dated at that time

    Well, as a policy I never let myself get jealous over what the next man has, instead I work on improving me or figuring out how can I acquire that same item, or a suitable substitute.

    And that attitude is what is missing from all of the ridiculous PUA theory you see out there. Nothing’s funnier than seeing these unscocial and uncomfortable-in-their-skin nerds act as if you can take these silly directives (like negging) and simply tack them on to your daily repertoire and achieve some radically different results with women.

  200. elk, I suppose you are right — in moments. But how can one tidy observation explain anyone’s entire psyche and motivation?

    In any case, I don’t really care at this late date if my race politics are in vogue or not; I’m too old to be that hurt by a disfavoring zeitgeist. I’m happy to occasionally bask in past conquests, while honing my sense of contemporary romantic melancholy.

    I realize from these conversations that I’m more romantic than most AR men. A lot of the M-F relationship chit-chat here seems comically juvenile, defensive and unshaped by real-life, but that doesn’t jibe with said intellects here when discussing other topics.

    So I must be missing something.

    (psst! I’d still be willing to wager that I’ve had more ‘primo pussy’ than anyone else here)

  201. “And that attitude is what is missing from all of the ridiculous PUA theory you see out there. “

    Yeah, there’s a big ‘be-careful-of-what-you-wish-for” element in the ‘Game” crowd that’s just waiting to be warned of such.

  202. (psst! I’d still be willing to wager that I’ve had more ‘primo pussy’ than anyone else here)

    ** Sighs** You know, you keep saying this and I’ve ignored it heretofore, partly because I don’t like to brag myself and that’s even more ridiculous of a concept here since we’re online and nothing can be corroborated.

    So, it’s quite hilarious to me that you would call out me and Elk for discussing women’s looks online (which is actually appropriate for this locker-room like forum) but then 2 seconds later turn around and engage in empty Internet braggadocio about your own conquests (this tendency is probably one of the few truly black things about you, lol)

    And also, there’s the issue of taste as well, right?

    In my considerable experience hanging out with black males socially I’ve noticed that they’re known to boast quite a bit, and also known to pretty much screw anything that isn’t fat and isn’t black. (and who can blame them) Most of the time if it’s got natural, long hair it can be 5-7 and 175 pounds and look like Khloe Kardashian but still be chased by an extensive series of brothers. Brothers also think that white women like Coco Austin and Amber Rose are “hot.”

    And IIRC, you also told us that you were once in a serious relationship with a black female. They’re at the absolute bottom of the desirability hierarchy, in direct proportion to the amount of white blood they have and non-black genetics they can express. So, if that’s true there’s about a 2% chance that I’m really going to be “jealous” over what’s in your trophy case.

  203. — Nothing’s funnier than seeing these unscocial and uncomfortable-in-their-skin nerds act as if you can take these silly directives (like negging)

    There is the incongruent PUA cliche but it’s more a subculture stock character than a real phenomenon. Awkward nerds would be unlikely to work up the balls to even try their rudimentary Game on a girl unless it’s liquor-courage, in which case we’re dealing with another dimension of problems.

    Beyond the comic stereotype though, lessons of Game have been a boon for otherwise-high-functioning but underperforming men, many of whom aren’t naturals, or didn’t pick up Game skills from older brothers or cooler friends, and others who bought into the whole “respect women, be yourself, and you’ll find the right girl” messages.

  204. “So, if that’s true there’s about a 2% chance that I’m really going to be “jealous” over what’s in your trophy case.”

    You would be…I’ve seen what you’ve posted as ‘hot.’ Trust that you would be, though envious might be a better term than ‘jealous.’ i agree with some of what else you say, though I’d describe your description of ‘black tastes’ as ‘ghetto black,’ not simply, umm, ‘black-black?’ I think women like Austin and Rose are tacky…

    IDK. I look at these conversations as silly; I stupidly take the bait and react and wind up bragging—- but I’m truly galled by some of the observations and disses proffered by some of the commenters, especially if they’re racially derogatory; i feel like i’ve ‘beaten’ them at their own game while THEY’RE ironically trying to insult ME and MY race….

    In many ways, I don’t value the SMV of some of the females I’ve been with as much as some of these alt-right dudes seem to value it. And i’ve said in the past that I know i”m going to take shit for taking the bait in these silly-ass debates. But it is what it is…. it’s something to do…

    Sexual opportunity, and even the aesthetic level of it, is often the result of circumstance and luck more than it is a measure of one’s purely biological SMV or however one may put it. I view a lot of my sexual history as being a result of vocational luck in which I was placed at an advantage in terms of idealized culture and monetary advantage relative to my pool of available females. IOW: I had a certain status within a certain entertainment culture; and i was relatively financially advantaged compared to a lot of the female company nearby. That is exploitable; and that very circumstance almost guaranteed above-average female physical looks, because they were vanity minded in that regard,etc. Also, it was a relatively promiscuous crowd and culture.

    But anyone with real experience in matters of the heart know that such a scenario can create as much angst as it does envy. A lot of such sexual climates get spoiled because they become commodified, and socially coded accordingly.

    I’d figure an avatar like LBF would know what I’m talking about.

    Again: No one gets out of this shite alive!!!

  205. Beyond the comic stereotype though, lessons of Game have been a boon for otherwise-high-functioning but underperforming men, many of whom aren’t naturals,

    Yes, I see your point. But “negging” ? C’mon. No one who’d actually be foolish, deluded and pitiful enough to consider that a valid methods has any business trying it as a tactic, they’ll just screw it up. Only a seriously unsocial nerd would even think about running off and doing that.

  206. PA “Beyond the comic stereotype though, lessons of Game have been a boon for otherwise-high-functioning but underperforming men, many of whom aren’t naturals, “

    Yes, you’ve made this point befeore and it’s a good one IMO. I think in the past you put as “Most men are incapable of being real pick-up artists and they can learn some valuable lesson s of a sexual market place in which they are at a disadvantage and in which cads have the edge.”

    That tempers both the oft-heard merits AND criticisms of the “Game” critics and sums things up nicely.

  207. Sexual opportunity, and even the aesthetic level of it, is often the result of circumstance and luck more than it is a measure of one’s purely biological SMV or however one may put it. I view a lot of my sexual history as being a result of vocational luck

    It’s not luck, it’s called being social. And I’m sure you’re weren’t the least charming guy there, either so that didn’t hurt.

    That’s really 80% of getting laid – be social with the type of women you’re wanting to screw, but don’t smack of desperation. But all of the Elliot Rodgers introverts in the PUA crowd don’t get that and that’s actually the sexual underachiever’s biggest problem – they don’t understand that white women are primarily social and talkative in nature in our new social landscape.

    It’s not that hard. I’ve gotten decently-to-well laid many times just by hanging out, drinking, looking confident and comfortable with myself and cracking a few jokes.

  208. The “neg” is probably the most misunderstood element of Game. Around 2007 when Game blogs came on the scene, feminists screeched that it’s abuse of women, and skeptical male critics took it to mean “clumsy insults.” Fact is, I neg all the time. In fact, I have negged my prior older female supervisors, and my career taking off around that time had plenty do do with it.

    Negging is a playful take-down of a female, done in such a way that she enjoys it. It is applicable to sexual as well as non-sexual interaction. If you have young nieces and nephews, you’ll notice that the boys don’t like to be negged (males instinctively hate being negged; ball-busting from friends is somethign a bit different). But the girls eat it up. So for example, if you have your niece and nephew, say, draw something, the boy will respond to thoughtful praise while the girl will light up when you jokingly scold her on using the wrong color crayon or cheating. Unlike the boy, she will be bored with thoughtful praise.

    Another example of non-sexual neg: a much older female manager makes a self-deprecating comment about her looks. And you, say as a properly respectful 28-year-old lad, have three options: (1) the safe option of not saying anything. (2) cringingly and inappropriately reassuring her that she does look good. and (3) neg her with “have you always been this vain?”

    A gym I used to go to had a natural Alpha trainer who was popular with female guests, and I’d eaves-drop on his conversations with a female client if they were nearby. I noticed that he calibrated his negs to the woman’s attractiveness level. He teased the hotties with pretty sharp barbs “hey, lazy lady, that was not a sit up. do it again.” But the less attractive and more self-conscious ones would get the gentler teasing : “now now, I see you’re slacking!”

    This “negging” the stuff of natural social skills and charisma, but to some it comes naturally but not so much to others.

  209. This “negging” the stuff of natural social skills and charisma, but to some it comes naturally but not so much to others.

    Well,ok yes I see that now – a lot of what is deemed “negging” simply falls under the umbrella of what could be called flirty charm or wit. But in order to be pulled off properly that sort of flirtiness requires a certain, foundational level of self-ease and confidence that isn’t likely to be found in those consulting a Website for tips on picking up women.

    And my impression of the worst underachievers is that they’re simply not around women much at all in social settings where they could even hope to strike up witty conversations, because they’re naturally introverted, cerebral and serious minded. And some may think this new tactic they’ve read about is going to solve what is actually an issue relating to social access to potential sexual partners.

  210. Brothers also think that white women like Coco Austin and Amber Rose are “hot.”

    Coco Austin — check out the T-levels on that booty!

    It is clear that she has had plastic surgery … on her face. Which is always a sad story. Bill Burr for all this faults has some great material including his bit on plastic surgery, where he rips those people to shreds.

    What size breasts are those anyways, DDDD?

    In spite of those things? judging by her smile and demeanor, she tries to come across as feminine, so credit to her for that.

  211. But “negging” ? C’mon. No one who’d actually be foolish, deluded and pitiful enough to consider that a valid methods has any business trying it as a tactic, they’ll just screw it up.

    For all its problems, it beats nagging.

  212. A gym I used to go to had a natural Alpha trainer who was popular with female guests, and I’d eaves-drop on his conversations with a female client if they were nearby. I noticed that he calibrated his negs to the woman’s attractiveness level.

    Also, I’d posit that what you’re saying to the women while negging maybe be overvalued compared to the fact that you’re simply talking to them on a social level. Women build relationships and invest a lot of emotion into talking, men actually pay more attention to the specifics of the information exchange like two servers processing data across a network.

    There’s more than one personality type that works with women of every attractiveness level.

  213. There’s a former pop-music critic i know well who wrote a big-time book on ‘game’ and the PUA scene; he or his main subject, i believe, actually invented the term ‘neg.’

    FWIW, the author of the book himself often puts down the idea of ‘game’ and the PUAs as being worthy of serious merit.

    But I suppose the maxim that applies is: If it fits and if it works then it’s all good.

  214. Cam: “— just imagine the brutally unsympathetic treatment you’re gonna get when he goes to Rolling Stone with his tell-all expose on infiltrating the alt-right.

    PA: If such mags even exist at that point. Nikcrit, is that why SOBL banned you?”

    LMAO,
    No!
    You witnessed the whole thread; SOBL banned me supposedly for being rude to him when in fact I did no such thing; basically, he banned me for being a sassy negro. it was embarassing, and obvious to anyone there that I did nothing to upset him.

    Having said that, I do acknowledge that it is his blog and he has the right to ban anyone he wants. But I’d have respected him more if he was more honest in stating ‘why’ he banned me.
    I’m hardly impolite.

    He probably didn’t want a non-white being his most frequent commenter; can’t really blame him for that, I guess.

    RE. future writings; i’ve procrastinated on this, but if/when I do, it’ll be of a self-examination POV; IMO, therein lies the appeal and meat for insight. I’m neither interested in, nor think there’s any commercial value, in a ‘alt-right expose.’

    If I did go such a route, it’d be wiser to find a base, crude, slur-infested, non-intellectual version of the ideas served up here; PA’s blog is far too nuanced and erudite a vessell for the raaayyycist subjugation. lolz.z

  215. — PA’s blog is far too nuanced and erudite a vessell for the raaayyycist subjugation. lolz.z

    Yes indeed! (And i don’t mean that in the Jack Kempesque “yes thank you Mr. Gore for pointing out that I’m not a bigot like the rest of my party”). That said, I’m overdue a racissss post… there is a draft I meant to have done this morning but hadn’t had the time and concentration.

    As to the SOBL thread, i don’t remember the specifics. Figured you gents had some backchannel communication gone wrong.

    — it’ll be of a self-examination POV

    That would certainly have more appeal longer term. Hillary, and a number of writers and bloggers had already said or written plenty on the ARt.

  216. Negging, when done right, could be called gentle teasing. The better looking the girl, the less gentle you need to be.

  217. If one’s race is his father then his “racism” is an immersion into his father(s)… Ergo, an immersion into his most immediate creator(s)… And then that seemingly fortuitous funnel towards his Tradition.

    Likewise, anti-racism effectually serves as the complete destruction of this “entry point” into a young white boy’s Tradition. Anti-racism is hatred for the father(s).

  218. Nikcrit…

    You cannot attack Trump for his sexual degeneracy SO YOU ATTACK the hypocrisy of his sexually regenerate supporters.

    And you cannot attack Trump where he GOES RIGHT in favor or and tending to the regenerate aspects of the white race… UNLESS you DEFINE yourself terminable without consent.

    So where does that leave you to attack Trump KNOWING that fundamentally he is just a livelier and more rambunctious radical “white” autonomist than any of the clowns around attacking him?

    IT LEAVES YOU at the “top” of the “race-realist” hierarchy with the “jew dunnit” theory of “Jewish supremacy.”

    So you now become this quasi-alt-rite Halfrican Superman AUTHORING the ANTI-white Supremacy victory screed of the “hard right” “anti-semites.”

  219. Nikcrit…

    You cannot attack Trump for his sexual degeneracy SO YOU ATTACK the hypocrisy of his sexually regenerate supporters. I have no idea what you’re talking about; i do no such thing

    And you cannot attack Trump where he GOES RIGHT in favor or and tending to the regenerate aspects of the white race… UNLESS you DEFINE yourself terminable without consent. ???????

    So where does that leave you to attack Trump KNOWING that fundamentally he is just a livelier and more rambunctious radical “white” autonomist than any of the clowns around attacking him?

    IT LEAVES YOU at the “top” of the “race-realist” hierarchy with the “jew dunnit” theory of “Jewish supremacy.”

    So you now become this quasi-alt-rite Halfrican Superman AUTHORING the ANTI-white Supremacy victory screed of the “hard right” “anti-semites.”

    You’ve really gone off the deep end, Thor. Total starkers

  220. Nikcrit…

    If you have NO IDEA what I am taking about then I suggest that this should signal to you that you are in a state of radical autonomy… Literally, NO IDEA what I’m talking about?

    What is YOUR ACTUAL PRINCIPLED ATTACK ON TRUMP?

    You DO NOT POSSESS ONE!

  221. That would certainly have more appeal longer term. Hillary, and a number of writers and bloggers had already said or written plenty on the ARt.

    I expect a full-bore assault on the alt right from all liberal media outlets after the election if Hillary wins. Right now they’re not mentioning the alt right much because Hillary hasn’t mentioned it again lately by design and they are following her campaign lead. But a victory by her will embolden the MSM to new heights of screetchitude in mentioning the AR over and over…

  222. My principled attack on Trump is his desire to make economic allies of lower and middle class “blacks” and “whites.”

    THIS IS DASTARDLY…

    That HE USED A “wall” TO SEEK TO CREATE this most deleterious “union,” only makes him even more savvy radical.

  223. “If you have NO IDEA what I am taking about then I suggest that this should signal to you that you are in a state of radical autonomy… Literally, NO IDEA what I’m talking about?”

    Well, i have no idea what you’re talking about —— and by stating as much here, I was preaching to the choir.

    RE. Trump: he has no principles or scruples beyond the further enshrinement of himself. I don’t morally scold for that; I merely acknowledge evident truth, based on his current and past documented actions.

  224. “That HE USED A “wall” TO SEEK TO CREATE this most deleterious “union,” only makes him even more savvy radical.”

    This statement of yours above is a prime example of your OCD; you’ve tried to come up with some metaphysical explanation for everything in the universe via some black-white dichotomy.
    You can’t recognize someone’s indifference as essential and asymptomatic of ANYTHING.

    If you did, every other theoretical fiber of yours would crumble; your mind is like expensive California seaside real estate: despite its flash and expense, one faulty plank and the entire ediface tumbles into the ocean. Your theories rest on highly suspect faultlines.

  225. That the Left attacks the alt-rite DOES NOT MAKE EACH ENEMIES to each other ESPECIALLY within the context of advancing “radical autonomy” over white Supremacy.

    If anything, the alt-rite is simply AUTHORING a LESS FAVORABLE victory screed for political “Liberalism” and many radicals are butthurt that the Buckleys and the Wills and those Gold ‘burgs don’t seem to have a grip on that magic pen anymore.

  226. RE. Trump, actually I was impressed, or maybe you might say ‘surprised’ by that vid that PA posted upthread.

    I had never heard him speak that specifically before —- naming national maladies and their causes and then, most surprisingly, revealing the forms of slander and attack meant to conceal such actions.

    I’ve never seen him get that literal before, in both his accusations and his proposed remedies.

  227. Trump: he has no principles or scruples beyond the further enshrinement of himself. — Nikcrit

    Spoken like a true rival…

    Trump IS A RADICAL “white” autonomist…

    HE IS ON YOUR SIDE OF THE METAPHYSICAL SPECTRUM…

    You WANT TO DISOWN HIM…

    AT THE EXPENSE OF genuine white Supremacy.

    If one man who rejects objective Supremacy OBJECTS to another man who rejects objective Supremacy, on what grounds can he possibly make an objection?

    OBJECTION TO WHAT?

    Maximizing one’s autonomy to a radical extent?

    What is YOUR ACTUAL, SUBSTANTIVE objection to TRUMP?

    (Hint: he is a superior rival)

  228. “But it also requires me to be on my A-game at all times: no half-ass posts.”

    It’s sort of a pain in the ass to have to be all detailed in terms of grammar and spelling and syntax and having every single contention air tight, lest some fellow blog or blog reader will make sport of your premises, isn’t it?

    One of the obscure but most exquisite agonies I ever endured entailed writing passionate and convincing and error-proof criticism of pop music THAT I NO LONGER CARED ONE BIT ABOUT.

    That’s not the kind of problem that’s going to generate sympathy among others, but it’s surprising just how irksome such a task can be. That’s why i get thrown when people here on blogs sometimes accuse me of being too casual and sloppy with the syntax; IMO, that’s what fukin’ blog commentary is for: the passion, the immediacy and the freedom ——- grammarian scolds be damned!

  229. How many times, at for instance CH, is it proclaimed that women are at their best-looking at age 22 or 25, or whenever. Really, 25?

    Whoa – and what exactly is wrong with the idea that women are at their best looking at age 25? It’s quite arguable. Also depends on the time, place, locale, standard of living and such.

    Or are you attacking the idea that we should be speaking in terms of a specific age in the first place?

  230. I’m just waiting for all of they NYT and Salon articles on how this Cubs World Series fan mania experience is “unbearably White” and racist, since Obama is a White Sox fan and since the Wrigleyville environs is probably the whitest urban place you’ll ever see in the USA.

  231. In the cog dissed reality
    Is lesser cog
    Greater cog
    Timespace duality
    Little hog
    Can’t muscle
    Bigger hog
    And retain the normality
    Abnormally
    Then normally
    Follows that pork in the road
    Piggybacked on formality
    Form our city
    With bacon bit landscape
    A delightful religiosity
    No animosity
    We break fast
    And hunger with generosity
    But don’t be out to lunch
    Get hit with a velocity
    And serve you a dinner
    With deserted death row toppings…

  232. “since Obama is a White Sox fan and since the Wrigleyville environs is probably the whitest urban place you’ll ever see in the USA.”

    Cam, I’ve heard you say as much before about Chicago neighborhoods; fwiw, Hyde Park, where Obama called home, IS solidly Sox terrain. Basically the South and Southwest sides of Chicago are Sox country, while the North and Northwest sides are Cubby fans; the West side is mixed but leans toward the Sox while Downtown is heavily biased toward the Cubs. (There is no vernacular ‘east-side’ in Chicago).

    it’s not racially partisan; and the above fan-turf divides have bled its borders greatly in recent decadesk, with fandom much more mixed-bag than it was when my Dad was growing up on the south-side (Ironically, he was a Cubs fan, which was pretty rare for then). Still, there were exceptions, or fans who doubled-up and rooted for both teams; (Got to remember, the Cubs’ Ernie Banks was, i believe, the first black Chicago pro baseball player and was a community pillar).

    As for those neighborhoods: Wrigleyville is probably the equivalent of “Bucktown” in Atlanta; or “Deep Ellum” in Dallas: the official yuppie entertainment district. There are fair shares of minorities there but they don’t really constitute a neighborhood anchor, like they do in Hyde Park on the south side, where there are lots of whites and Jews but beside a solid and perhaps majority black middle and upper-middle class.

    Other Northside strongholds beside Wrigleyville, like Lincoln Park and Old Town and Lakeview, are similarly composed; primarily white, more blacks and Hispanics the further west you go..

    So while i can’t argue hard and specific with the general thrust of your comment, it’s hard for me to sign on to your ‘one of the whitest major entertainment districts, … etc.). Chicago is like a bigger and vaster Milwaukee, Cleveland and Indianapolis, barring a few certain and obvious exceptions. So you’re probably noticing a more general Northern U.S.-vs-Southern U.S. trend among urban entertainment districts.

  233. Whoa – and what exactly is wrong with the idea that women are at their best looking at age 25?

    But are they?

    The better class of women are slower to lose their looks — and slower to get them, as well.

    But even so, when viewed in terms of women’s lifetime fitness for motherhood, perhaps their value goes down from their peak fertility; which is in the late teens.

    And their fitness for motherhood is essentially their attractiveness.

    The statement quoted above is an example of taboo in question, in effect.

    ************

    Exactly when are women at their peak fertility, and by race? I might guestimate along the Rule of Three, Black White and Asian: 15 16 and 17. So that would be their peak attractiveness as well.

    Motherhood fitness though, is not simply peak fertility — and this is a profoundly confounding factor. We are not monkeys after all!

    And it is the case that more sophisticated and intelligent people take longer to mature, and so perhaps are not revealed in all their beauty until their mid-20’s, and even later. And that applies to women too, and how they will measure up as mates.

    Is that thoughtful enough, or do we still have to avoid the jokes about hs girls.

  234. Your numbers for peak “attractiveness” MUST leave out personality.

    They do, thordaddy. Which point is addressed in the second-to-last paragraph.

    I understand that not recognizing (and respecting) the taboos is a form of spergery. And if it’s not funny, then i apologize.

    Along with neonatal male genital modification circumcision, it’s another topic off the list.

  235. edit@Camlost: “Bucktown” should’ve been “Buckhead Village” in my chi. comment directed at you…… (it’s been a while and this hipster is tired)

  236. When those two topics are combined, it’s a squared taboo! but did you know …

    That there are correlations, with citable peer-reviewed articles, between circumcision and sexual dysfunction. Not that i know anything about those articles, or would have ever been motivated to look into to that topic for personal reasons. Strictly academic!

  237. — It’s sort of a pain in the ass to have to be all detailed in terms of grammar and spelling and syntax and having every single contention air tight, lest some fellow blog or blog reader will make sport of your premises, isn’t it? (Nikcrit)

    Not at all for me. I’m instinctively conscientious and would in fact be bothered to have left a sloppy post (grammar, punctuation, etc) or even comment. By A-game, I meant more in terms of not writing the same things other bloggers have already written — be interesting.

    Speaking of, I got a pretty good traffic spike yesterday and on into today because CH linked to my older “Orwell on Leftist Media” post. That post has spread impressively to Twitter and other media. What happens with those traffic spikes, is that people will also browse other posts. I can’t see who is looking at what, but I can see the All Posts and Top Posts tabs get lots of clicks, along with many of the older posts therein. So I don’t want to have a portfolio of boring or unoriginal or lazy articles. I’m especially on guard against writing posts where the title over-promises the content.

  238. Is that thoughtful enough, or do we still have to avoid the jokes about hs girls.

    No, we don’t.

    Along with neonatal male genital modification circumcision, it’s another topic off the list.

    Yes, it is.

  239. One can kill “parts” of one’s Self and not gain Final Liberation under many desired circumstances….

    Abortion
    Appendectomy
    Amputation
    Stomach-stapling

    Yet no acts of self annihilation are equal ALTHOUGH ALL are consensual.

    So one can self-annihilate and pay another to annihilate “parts” of one’a Self…

    Then there is circumcision…

    Annihilating a “part” of a white boy’s Self WITHOUT CONSENT and DULY JUSTIFIED by a society desirous of the “right” to self-annihilate.

    Radically liberated “white man” truly wants to cut his penis off…

    The Elk REBELS FROM SOMEWHERE PRIMAL…

    I say from a place call white Supremacy.

  240. The idea that one wants part of his penis back due him suffering decreased pleasure MAKES MOCKERY of the white man who wants “part of his penis back” DUE THE CONSPIRATORIAL NATURE OF the annihilating assault on he who was innocent (yet apparently judged guilty by… guess jew?).

  241. Quasi-mandatory circumcision came to America after WWII. Completely unrelated, nah-zees in occupied Eastern Europe ordered arrested men to drop-trou to tell a Jew from a non-Jew when in doubt.

  242. “since Obama is a White Sox fan and since the Wrigleyville environs is probably the whitest urban place you’ll ever see in the USA.”

    Cam, I’ve heard you say as much before about Chicago neighborhoods; f

    No, I’m not talking about Chicago as a whole – just Wrigleyville, the neighborhood immediately surrounding the stadium and dominated by bars where fans socialize before/after the game. I caught a game and spent Memorial Day 2015 there and It’s the whitest “urban” event I’ve ever seen in my life – even the janitors, concessionaires and security guards are white. There’s ZERO black males out there trying to hustle you tickets out front of the stadium.

    Definition of a Whitopia – the trendy, but mostly (physically) crappy dive bars in Wrigleyville are getting up to $250 today for a cover charge just to get into the bar and do nothing more than stand there watching the game on a big screen with other Cubs fans, of course:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cubs/2016/10/27/world-series-chicago-cubs-cleveland-indians-bars-cover-charges-wrigley-field-wrigleyville/92849328/

    Not that there’s anything wrong with any of this, I’m glad whites still have a few safe areas that hearken back to our 50’s demographics. I wish I had spend a few years in my 20’s on the Northside of Chicago, I would’ve loved it if I coulda lasted through the debilitating cold.

  243. “I wish I had spend a few years in my 20’s on the Northside of Chicago, I would’ve loved it if I coulda lasted through the debilitating cold.”

    It’s not that cold out; and it’s not that blindingly white, Mr. Frost…. I mean, put it this way; you can walk out on Clark street immediately before and after a game outside Wrigley Field and you will see black people if you look in randomly any direction; think: your big city college district; not dominated by blacks. but merely by dint of there being so many commercial bars, restaurants and other vendor-like amusements, there’s certain to be x-amount of minorities in proximity…… when i think of the milieu you suggest, i think of these corporate-sponsored summer ‘jazz festivals;’ i.e., in Chicago area, i think Ravinia, about 30 miles north of the Loop; and teh West Bend jazz in the Park, 35 miles outside Milwaukee; there, you have to search far and wide for even a sepia-toned minimum-wage-earning vendor (yet another lure for PA to move to the Midwest!) lol..

  244. @ Nik- the Hipster/Granola areas in Atlanta are known as “Intown” here and they are all well inside what we call the Perimeter, which is 285 – the freeway encircling Atlanta as a ring. People do not use the term inner/outer ring here, it doesn’t apply.

    A true SWPL in Atlanta will talk about how civilization does not extend OTP (outside the perimeter).

  245. As a follow-on to the recent story about a male SJW dressed as a construction worker destroying Trump’s Walk of Fame star… the star was repaired and an old Black homeless woman camped on the star to protect it from further vandalism. Well, today spic vermin (with geeful onlookers of various races) attacked that old woman:

  246. I actually meant the inverse of what you say i have no clue about, etc.

    Oh OK… I get it. I had thought you were cosigning to Thor’s worldview. For him anything less than hand delivering your 4 children in a bathtub probably constitutes sexual degeneracy 🙂

  247. @ MGE – with all due respect, WTF are you doing with this looking for someone’s online approval? Who cares what people think? They’re not changing and you’re not changing, so tell people to kiss your a*ss if they don’t like something about you.

    Damn straight man… bootlicking for approval is so beta. At a certain point you just have to live life on your terms and fuck all the rest.

  248. Abortion, homosexuality, miscegenation, pedophilia, beastialiy, necrophilia, masturbation, sodomy, porn, sexbots… ALL UNDER THE PHENOMENOLOGY of radical sexual autonomy… Self-evident EFFECTS of acts of self-annihilation.

    HOMO-sexuality is the “gateway” self-annihilating “nature…”

    Where…

    Homo=same=EXACT SAME= Self…

    Homo-sexuality is sexual attraction to the Self… RADICAL SEXUAL AUTONOMY AND SELF-ANNIHILATION, by definition.

  249. “For him anything less than hand delivering your 4 children in a bathtub probably constitutes sexual degeneracy🙂”

    Lol!! Now there’s an image with potential: Thordaddy as the self-regenerating midwife!

  250. I was the doctor
    At the delivery
    Of a most sovereign child
    Born this century
    It was faith
    More than Just regeneracy
    It was courage
    In a mother who independently
    Made the sacrifice
    For bodily
    Integrity
    And intimately
    And most decisively
    Called for Dr. Father
    To birth some sovereignty….

  251. Those football discussions the other day had me recall that my senior year in highschool I was able to keep my facemask because I had significantly bent the bar across the brow line of the helmet, it suffering something akin to a bent chassis and the facemask was totaled. The white West needs men with real hard heads too.

  252. “Vote Trump, arrest Merkel”

    Merkel got the Kalergi prize.
    I’d submit Kalergi awardees are hardly to be apprehended…

  253. The FBI would not have re-opened their case, if they didn’t know something pivotal.

    Either way, Hillary cannot be president now. With an active case against her, AND her malfeasance right out in everyone’s face, specifically the charge Trump made at the debates of destroying evidence after subpoena — she is crippled, and no way does she recover.

    The FBI and by extension a lot of the other institutions are against her, and the Monster Vote coalition aka Traditional America.

    The powers-that-be, not just including the FBI but also the evil Soros network and the banks, perhaps have realized that Hillary as president is too unstable and untenable.

    So Trump looks likely.

  254. It is a beginning. The challenges that White people face in restoring their communities are still in front of them.

    Perhaps we can set up an independent media with state sponsorship. An alternative-NPR.

  255. The following is a comment copied from The Z Blog, and seems a good explanation of events.

    Let me put on my tinfoil hat so that I might better come to grips with this profound disturbance in the force. I have no conclusions, just a few observations:

    1) A couple of weeks ago four-star Marine Corps General James Cartwright pleaded guilty to mishandling classified info after he leaked details of cyber sabotage operations against the Iranian nuke program to reporters. He hasn’t been sentenced, but faces a maximum of five years in prison;

    2) The Clinton campaign and it’s hired mouthpieces (CNN, ABC, WaPo, etc.) stridently assert that the Podesta and DNC leaks are the fruits of Russian espionage, but to my knowledge there has been no detailed exposé published linking Russian intelligence to these cyber thefts. Compare this situation to one a few years ago involving cyber crimes committed by special cells operating on behalf of the Chinese PLA – the NYT and WaPo and a number of other publications came out with highly detailed descriptions of the PLA operations so that the Chinese would be under no illusion that we knew exactly who was carrying out these thefts;

    3) During the last debate, Clinton blabbed classified information to the effect that there is a four minute time lapse between when the order is given to fire nuclear weapons and weapons actually launch. There had been speculation that the delay was on the order of four minutes, but until Clinton spoke it had never been officially confirmed;

    4) A number of accounts have surfaced that confirm that Clinton is uncooperative and frequently abusive to the Secret Service agents assigned to her detail;

    5) A fair number of the heavily redacted Clinton emails recovered from Clinton’s unsecured server and released by the State Department to comply with a subpoena reveal the identities of undercover agents in the field; and,

    6) Benghazi.

    Tying these various things together – the double-standards, the lying, the abusiveness, the incompetence – I don’t think it would be too far wrong to see these latest moves as a kind of preemptive coup conducted by elements of the deep national security state to prevent this vile harridan from becoming president. They have after all seen her up close and personal. And, on the whole, I could applaud them for it were the president not so worrisome.

    Of the listed incompetencies, revealing the four-minute time lapse for a nuclear launch is particularly hard-to-believe.

  256. — my big regret though: I wish, wish, wish I archived my remarks from OneSTDV and the first two-thirds of the GL Piggy era! That, and its predecessor, Guy White, is where I blew my commenting wad, so to speak (Nikcrit)

    Yeah, I guess we all have that “wad” of things we want to unload. Once that’s fired off, we’re kind of empty, and from there on writing about life as it rolls along and as our wisdom (such that it is) and maturity grows.

    I thought I blew my own commenting wad at GLPiggy circa 2012-2013, but looking back at the comments I was able to save, they contain grains of original thought, but all are wrapped in sloppy prose. The informal format of the comments medium reveals itself when you try to promote it to a blog post. Mine? they all needed work.

    Well, I started this formal writing project, and it too had its “wad-blowing” period. In my view, this was the Top Posts tab material from early January thru early March 2016. Great post, all the kinds of ideas I had sitting in the back of my mind, which I finally had the platform for putting out there. After that, it’s the sophomore slump. Every writer, every one, gets that. And you get past that slump by telling yourself “OK, I said what I wanted to say; from here on, I am just going to shut up and listen; maybe I will learn something and write about it.” Once you accept that humble position you find yourself in, it gets a bit easier to write something new.

  257. That’s good that you’ve gathered some acclaim and accord via blog readers, AR-politicized and not, have passed along their kudos.

    FWIW coming from me, I’ve always been impressed by your writing: your focus, given (I’m assuming) it’s a unpaid avocation; and as i’ve said i’m realliy impressed with the fact that English is your second or third language; blown away, actually, by that fact. I mean, i’m an American who had a low-to-mid-brow professional job writing, and I’VE pinched phrases and expressions from YOU over the years. I wonder: how does an immigrant with ESL develop a sense and awareness, let alone the ability to impart foreign genre and idiomatic style and expression into their writing.

    I respect whatever limits a blogger maintains in terms of self-disclosure, but i’m curious to know if writing is a significant part of your nine-to-five job.

  258. — i’m curious to know if writing is a significant part of your nine-to-five job.

    Yes and no. But at a certain point in many lines of work, you’re expected to write but it’s not “deep” or complicated writing. It’s communication of industry concepts to target audiences. Clarity is key. I did do a stint in a graduate program but bailed upon realizing the futility of pursuing an academic career. Thing about English, it’s an extremely easy language to learn, while being immensely versatile and expressive.

  259. O.T.

    Hmmmm. Maybe there IS something to T-diddy’s riffs re. Americans being enthralled with degenerative acts of ‘radical autonomy.’

    To wit: this partidcular artist’s rendering of how this year’s prez election contrasts with the transgressive breakthrough in 2008:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opinion/sunday/2008-was-a-celebration-2016-is-the-opposite.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=image&module=opinion-c-col-top-region&region=opinion-c-col-top-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-top-region

  260. p.s.—– very, very odd tale, re. story in the link of the previous comment, that is…… it’s sort-of a transgressive artist’s methodology for investigating Thor’s radical autonomy claims; it’s like this photographer was Thor’s active and creative muse for some of his more adamantine riffs.

    Thor, give us your take of that link please.

  261. I stopped reading at “Michael Brown…”

    You are delving into the mind of a de facto homo… Anti-white Supremacist… It is the same old song and dance… These fools get SEXUALLY USED AND MENTALLY ABUSED by their ideological “elders” and THEN LIKE A NAKED Polar-bared try and take this demented terror out on the spirited, up and comers…

  262. True, but the outlandish caricature is also a mask for a seething dollop of self-loathing;

    I found this interview with Milo, in which he discusses his homosexuality and it’s possible pathological etiology. Halfway through he says he would choose a different life if he could and laments that he will never have kids. It’s a moment of candor in which he drops the bluster but you can see the melancholy creep in around the edges.

  263. I thought TD’s comment was a criticism of my reference to Michael Brown in the “TNB” post.

    Jeezus … who the hell knows what Thordaddy’s comments are in reference to

  264. No PA…

    It was in reference to the piece Nikcrit posted AUTHORED by a “white” self-annihilation WHO CANNOT ESCAPE THE Narrative…

    The will to escape the Narrative is NOW just a baby step and these whacked out “whites” CANNOT TAKE THE baby step NO MATTER WHAT.

    MGE…

    You waffle…

    You are possessed of God-ordained free will thus revealing a self-annihilating penchant for homosexuality OR you are suboptimal A.I. and passable in regard to the Turing Test…

    The first option attests to your bodily integrity and provides hope for reformation…

    The second option makes you terminable without consent.

  265. “No PA…It was in reference to the piece Nikcrit posted AUTHORED by a “white” self-annihilation WHO CANNOT ESCAPE THE Narrative…”

    Uhhh, not to make things more confusing, but that piece I posted wasn’t authored by a ‘white;’ rather, it was authored by a young female black author named Kaitlyn Greenidge. She wrote a book recently that seems interesting to me; very interesting young writer….. her book is almost a examination of fictitious racial scenarios that we’ve drummed up here on this blog on occaision a few times.

    this story on her is sorta interesting too:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/opinion/sunday/who-gets-to-write-what.html?_r=0

    it’s about the trail of p.c. attribution and how that changes with the whims of the times.

  266. Thor: “There is nothing in this person’s article that distinguishes her as a black female.”

    Well, I think the above link takes care of the literal, existential claim in question; so now it’s ‘all-clear’ for Thor to explain to us how she conceptually doesn’t cut the ebony muster, no?

    (Cue Thor and his six or seven set-piece riffs…)

  267. Nikcrit…

    I don’t dispute that she’s black… I only read the article far enough to assume it was a “white” self-annihilator. There isn’t much substantive difference in these types of jaded recollections between these two variants of radlibs..

  268. Actually, the name is “Greenidge’ —- no ‘r’ turning the second syllable into the word ‘ridge.’

    IDK. I think there’s something significant in that, ‘Greenidge.” It almost sounds parodic, making gruel out of the naturalist political movement, ‘The Greens.”

    And that book title and premise? That is interesting stuff.

    I give more ideological credit and trust to authors over journalists, political or otherwise. And I did some sifting through midbrow reviews of her book, (i.e. “Kirkus” and the likes,” and she’s definitely a bit more complicated than appears to the eye; funny too.)

  269. “Kaitlyn Greenridge’s name isn’t typically black, but her writing sure is.”

    What I thought was most notable about her op-ed piece in the nytimes was her intelligence, with and ability to see ironies contradicting the basic p.c.-cathedralist frame of reference.

    Did you read the piece? Or did you summon your remark about her writing black merely from noticing that she was a black female with dreadlocks and a few other political ‘tells?’

  270. Did you read the piece? Or did you summon your remark about her writing black merely from noticing that she was a black female with dreadlocks and a few other political ‘tells?’

    I read them both, the one with the naked Obamists and the one where the Asian guy mentioned lynching. I’ve seen worse black female writing, if that’s what you’re trying to ask me.

  271. I skimmed an interview with Grennidge. She’s intelligent. I think she just got carried away in that article. Black writers tend to get too abstract when discussing race.

  272. Writing is a part of the Narrative Arts, which as with other cultural forms, exist ONLY to express a sense of collective identity.

    So implicit in any art, is how it goes to that question of expressing a collective identity. And contained within that question is, Whose Identity is being dealt with?

    In the case of black writers, they are dealing with their identity. They are not of our group, and they have nothing to say about white identity.

    ***********

    The argument can be made, that black writers might have something to say about white identity, to the extent that black identity is part of white identity. And that is not a negligible argument.

    However in these days and times, white identity is reactionary and traditional and getting back to its roots, and is moving away from any black participation in it.

    If these self-evident truths are accepted as premises, then black writers might could participate at the margins of a body of work that is relevant to white people.

    But first the condition of their participation has to be acknowledged: To what extent is white identity made up or shared with black identity?

    Certainly everyone has things in common. But then we get back to the costs and problems that come with emphasizing what we have in common, versus the benefits of celebrating and maintaining our differences.

  273. That is a lot of pablum for one morning, but we will want a Great Again America’s Realistic Approach to Diversity, an informal commission of citizen-heroes speaking their mind at town hall.

    So the tone has to be pretty sappy to go over with the white ladies, at least until their franchise is revoked.

  274. I skimmed the article by Ms Kaitlyn Greenidge — great Anglo name, can it get anymore Boston than that? — and frankly the very topic is indulgent. The NYT thinks they are entertaining a salon for MFA students.

    The meta-question of Who gets to write what? cannot be considered without first addressing, Who is it for?

    Who gets to be voice of the people? Well what people are we talking about?

    To consider the first question, without a clear consideration of the second, is ten parsecs beyond absurd.

    And in considering the second question, the slant of the NYT is well established in its attitude toward Traditional Americans and related Whites.

  275. The linked Huffpo article from Swain is from 2009, and is reasonably fair in its tone, and the author would get credit from simply stating some facts, namely that White people will start to represent their own interests.

    However she is not describing nor attempting to influence the voice of white nationalism itself, its characteristics, its “soul” so to speak, but rather noting its existence and placing it on the field of reckoning.

    The character referenced in the original Kaitlyn Greenidge article is a better example of blacks trying to influence a white voice. Greenidge had some old racist white lady as one of her characters, and was “struggling” with making that voice authentic. My impression of her treatment of that character, is that it is very irrelevant to real people, and that the author is fooling herself in thinking that it will have any influence at all on real white people.

    It gets back to the question of who is the audience. And that question brings up the issue of what it means to be Of Race. Anyone who is Of Race will be regarding her views on white voice and white character as entirely a frame for black identity, and having nothing to do with white identity.

  276. I skimmed thru the article as well. On Elk’s point, she’s not speaking for me. Not even if I were a Mayflower descendant. The Reaggaton was a bridge too far.

    But she isn’t fully speaking for her people either, with the disapproving point about the deportation of Mestizo aliens. She is speaking for the liberal class. I’m familiar with that style. Many White ethnics had been coopted into writing that way when liberalism was ascendant. Women in particular.

  277. The linked Huffpo article from Swain is from 2009, and is reasonably fair in its tone, and the author would get credit from simply stating some facts, namely that White people will start to represent their own interests.

    You’re correct that Swain does make some attempt at objectivity, much better than you’d expect. But it’s not unfunny to me that a black female is often referenced as the “go-to authority on whiteness” since we are not capable of (or allowed to) fill that role for ourselves.

    Greenidge is just 100% typical BF writing, remember how I’ve always kept saying that blacks have pretty much ZERO relevance on the planet (even to themselves) outside of their relationship and proximity to whites.

    Seriously, her protagonist is an evil, evil, evil “Yankee heiress” in Concord, Mass? And the heiress’ “inability to acknowledge her racism” is the devastating sin that causes some catastrophe that hurts a whole community of blacks? C’mon, man!! Greenidge probably thinks she’s “edgy” because the character is a Northerner instead of a typical Southerner cigar-smoking old overseer in a white suit like Boss Hogg.

    Whites from the Northeast spend extremely little time around blacks due to heavy segregation and lower overall numbers, even moreso for an 80 year-old, aflluent white lady. Greenidge should be happy that Northern Whites know so little of blacks, its helped keep them pulling the (D) lever for so long.

    But Blacks absolutely loove, loove, looove the idea that they are still constantly menaced and actively plotted against by whites. (Dey holdin’ us back) For them the idea is both tittilating entertainment and a constant outlet on which they can blame their incompetence. But even if the “old racist heiress” type still exists today, what actual impact does that have on the more pressing problems that blacks have? – but I guess the “racist brain waves” from the other side of the tracks are what’s driving down black test scores/graduation rates but also driving up black crime rates.

    There’s no difference between this horsesh*t and that upcoming Jordan Peele movie, I already posted this trailer:

  278. I like how she says a Trump victory will not be a celebration like an Obama victory was. In a way, I agree. Most conservatives don’t really see politics as a competitive sport the way liberals do. If she is implying conservatives don’t know how to let loose and have fun, then she is an idiot.

  279. There is no collective “black” identity outside of anti-white Supremacy BECAUSE if it were so, EVERYONE would know about such a miraculously distinct black collective AND YET not even a single person has an inkling of a clue to the existence of such an invisible tribe.

  280. There is the real bodily fear for myself and my family in an America that thinks that whether or not black people are human and shouldn’t be murdered by the state is a matter that is up for debate. After Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, Mo., my brother-in-law, who is white, told my sister, “Every time they shoot a black boy like that, they’re imagining shooting the president.” — Greenidge

    This is the money quote… The belief that does not require deconstruction… The BELIEF THAT NECESSITATES ABSOLUTE SEPARATION between the civilized white man and this nasty, diverse cabal of self-annihilators.

  281. This “black” bitch is so “intelligent” that she never really thought that separation could “kill” her two “white birds” with one stone.

  282. What kind of mindset deigns one’s oppressor as static mastery and then fits to rage at one’s failure to rise above a Master State?

  283. “There’s no difference between this horsesh*t and that upcoming Jordan Peele movie, I already posted this trailer:”

    I did some backstory research on some pre-production facts re. that Jordan Peele movie. I guess it was originally supposed to be a ‘supernatural comedy,’ but it apparently the script tested poorly in that form, so apparently the supernatural aspect was amped up while the ‘comedy’ was subtracted from the script (though it remains in the eyes of certain collective POV, like, i would predict, among these blog readers.).

    But Cam, there is a lot of difference between Greenidge’s writing and some more typical p.c. sanctimonious race writing; I swear, man, you’ve gotten as dogmatic as T-Daddy in recent months and not even as aspirational are your several or so repeated riffs. No race or culture is relevant entity entirely unto and within its own; it amazes me when whites indulge these ‘island-among-themselves’ fantasia sequences in which it was the 1500s and there was no trade or even token interaction with geographical others, mainly because it is almost entirely the wishes and provenance of white-created technologies that made interracial and intercultural communication upon mankind possible.

    I’m glad someone posted the Swain link; I did a few times here and at SOBL in the past couple of years —– but no one responded because Swain doesn’t neatly conform to the three or four black stereotype Strawmen (or Strawomen) that commenters here love to prop up and knock down over and over and over and over. Why mess up a clean and pitch-perfect echo chamber that creates cog-dis with its evident truths?

  284. Nikcrit…

    Why are you still so baffled and bamboozled by the bifurcated binary of biological separation versus psychological separation?

  285. Nikcrit,
    Do you like the way Kaitlyn Greenidge keeps referring to “we”? I don’t want her speaking for me.

  286. I’m glad someone posted the Swain link;

    You’re welcome, that was me.

    No race or culture is relevant entity entirely unto and within its own; it amazes me when whites indulge these ‘island-among-themselves’ fantasia sequence

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no. and no.

    That is not what is going on here, nor is this even true, nor is this even the question.

  287. Greenidge also claims her white brother in law told her every time a white police officer shoots a black boy, he is imagining shooting Obama. How would be know what they are thinking, unless he has been in that situation? These people are really despicable.

  288. Greenidge also claims her white brother in law told her every time a white police officer shoots a black boy, he is imagining shooting Obama.

    Exactly, and she claims Michael Brown was shot because the state (along with white Trump supporters) “decided that blacks aren’t human.”

    Philo was right, Trickin is hampered by his inability to recognize that A=A.

  289. These people are despicable…

    A=A…

    SUSTAINED Separation IS THE ONLY VIABLE ANSWER…

    Or else it’s eradication/annihilation…

  290. Does A=A mean anything besides its face value?

    Philomathean mentioned A=A during my long, long argument with Nik over the question of black women and confidence. He countered my argument by saying that the boundless confidence they exhibit is all for show and they’re really all mushy and insecure inside. I countered by saying that I didn’t think the most vocally overconfident of them are generally bright enough to either feel self-doubt or to pull off the Emmy-level acting job necessary, and I cited Occam’s razor.

    But Nik kept arguing with me.

    Then Philomathean said this, presumable in defense of my point of view in that argument:

    It’s an objective reality that any non-black with actual experience with blacks can attest. A = A.

    Your defensive posture only confirms the fact.

    In other words – if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

  291. “Greenidge also claims her white brother in law told her every time a white police officer shoots a black boy, he is imagining shooting Obama. How would be know what they are thinking, unless he has been in that situation? These people are really despicable.”

    I don’t support that observation; Greenidge wsa citing something her white brother-in-law said; take it as a conceited bit of hot air from a SJW, though I guess you could say Greenidge has some ‘poor-choice’ complicity in that she CHOSE to cite that particular quote….

    Geez-sus! My point is that the concept for her book, as well as her occasional turns-of-phrase and seeming POV in some of her mere journalistic pieces, reveals a somewhat clever, humorous and complicated psyche —— given that she’s probably in her mid-20s and debuted in national media.

    I mean, everyone’s pouring over her links posted here, looking for the slightest bit of editorial guilt-by-association. Heaven forbid someone in their early-to-mid-20s might be a bit contrived and overheated in stating their political passions and convictions. Not everyone could be as precocious and brilliant as we were—– us 40-something yobbos—– when in our 20s.

    I see a raw wit and complexity in her writing voice; read some of the reviews of her book via Google, not just the two links posted of hers on this blog.

    And I could be wrong; i’ve only seen a few such pieces; in fact, I’d never heard of her until yesterday.

    p.s.—- I still don’t know what the A=A thing is, beyond the rote philosophical syllogism…. RE. Philo, i still don’t know what he meant. And as in the past, he hasn’t directly answered me when I ask.

  292. I don’t support that observation; Greenidge wsa citing something her white brother-in-law said; take it as a conceited bit of hot air from a SJW,

    Well, we know you don’t believe such a thing about Michael Brown, but you’re 2-4 standard deviations more intelligent than most of your dad’s people.

  293. Just now saw Cam’s defense of Philo’s explanation of A=A (i.e., if it quacks like a duck, it is a duck, or whatever).

    My counter to that re. the black girl angst and compensatory bluster: if that was so —- i.e., if hte black girl acts insolent then she IS insolent —- then what accounts for those private breakdowns and hysterics before school shrinks, counselors, nurses and administrators?

    That would be counter-proof to A=A…… And besides even that, why would Philo say A=A is ‘proved’ in part by my ‘defensiveness?”

    It’s a conservative conceit to think that ‘minos’ and ‘Dems’ or whatever handy over-description includes a personal element in all such political or social or racial instances. .. In fact, during some of those instances, I was probably regretful about having to stay late and file reports or meet with other state authorites and/or agencies because it may have meant I didn’t get to leave early enough to work out AND get home in team to see the start of that night’s game, etc.

    Indifference is often a bipartisan impulse.

  294. then what accounts for those private breakdowns and hysterics before school shrinks, counselors, nurses and administrators?

    You got me, black chicks are batshit crazy. Elk seems to want one, though. Maybe he can sample and report back to the panel.

  295. then what accounts for those private breakdowns and hysterics before school shrinks, counselors, nurses and administrators?

    And the council is already quite aware that black students are extra needy within public schools.

  296. I re-watched that trailer for that Peele movie; i’m starting to think that was a stroke of marketing genius….. unlikely genre is often used a vehicle to introduce taboo or incendiary subjects.

    The racial ‘for-or-against?’ is obvious and huge in such a movie as this one, of course. But by putting all the putative bad-faith and result (i.e., ‘raycism’), they manage to totally avoid marking themselves with the ‘R’ word or even having to take the hard-dichotomy definition of being ‘liv’ or ‘con’ in their editorial convictions.

  297. Peele is black, he can say whatever he wants about racial matters with impunity.

    There’s absolutely nothing “taboo” about making movies where black = good and they’re victims who overcome. It’s the state-sponsored ideology. However, it’s overdone now – Birth of a Nation is tanking and will like lose a lot of money, I suspect those 3 Emmitt Till movies on the way will also tank.

  298. lol seriously? It has box office bomb written all over it. It’s demographic will be limited to mudsharks and their admirers. The studio probably won’t even bother releasing it overseas, where the real money is at.

  299. “white supremacy”= white degeneracy MEANS EVERYTHING where a dull mass believe A = anti-A and the chattering blood libel of the “talented teeth” is like “gobstool.”

  300. Nikcrit if you still think miscegenation is an incendiary subject, you haven’t been paying any attention at all to the past 10 years of pop culture … ie what has been the most popular reality show in the past decade? It’s been keeeping up with the kardashians and it’s various spin offs. . . It’s entire family of mudsharks and that freak of nature cate Jenner Remember, Kim got her start in Hollywood by making an interracial porn movie. She is literally a porn star-cum-reality star lol. She banked over $80 million off her iPhone app marketed towards pre-teen girls. I think it’s one of the most downloaded apps ever.

  301. “And the council is already quite aware that black students are extra needy within public schools.”

    Yet another example of indulging totally irrelevant racial invective: the question was/is: why would these bf students be tripping hysterically and even suicidal if they really weren’t upset and in fact DID have higher self-esteem than white girls and nearly everyone else?

    It’s not a question that needs to be mindful of one’s political loyalties and conceits.

  302. Yet another example of indulging totally irrelevant racial invective: the question was/is: why would these bf students be tripping hysterically and even suicidal if they really weren’t upset and in fact DID have higher self-esteem than white girls and nearly everyone else?

    Yes, there’s a lot of other reasons they could be hysterical that don’t refute my idea about the high self-esteem. Having some adult actually pay attention to them for once is one possibility, craziness is another. But of those scenarios can still exist alongside high self-esteem.

    I think there’s pretty much ZERO evidence that blacks in the USA ever have low self-esteem, outside of liberals who look at their considerable problems and then “work backwards” assuming that it must be due to lack of it. In general, blacks don’t strike others as particularly self-critical or introspective at all.

  303. “Nikcrit if you still think miscegenation is an incendiary subject, you haven’t been paying any attention at all to the past 10 years of pop culture”

    I don’t think it’s as incendiary today; the rest of the blog commenters here do. And IMO, the blog host here believes it’s the organizing issue or dread that is inspiring some sorta throw of the impending Western-globalist empire ——- though i would ask him for specifics, as I don’t want to put words in his mouth.

    Miscegenation is symbolically evident in ‘merica from low-brow to high-brow iconry —- from the Kardashian clan to the family of the current POTUS. Perhaps its symbolically elevated and its tawdry-to-elegantly contemporary portrayal is the final stop in its having arrived for posterity in American culture. That would be the somewhat logical endgame to America’s ‘all men created equal’ rhetoric and folklore….

    Of course, that may also mark the commencement of the alt-right’s disgruntlement and steps toward its own sovereign ethnostate.

    Evolution in action (or ‘de-evolution,’ according to your POV)

  304. “I think there’s pretty much ZERO evidence that blacks in the USA ever have low self-esteem”

    Man, if you only knew…. Look, try putting aside your invective and sarcasm; you’re ‘official’ and ‘for the record’ consideration of the matter. Then reconsider from a purely academic perspective, if you can. Or perhaps the better term is empathetic —– but not politicized empathy, the kind that comes with consequences.

    You’re always honing your response, i.e., ‘position’ on the matter via your working-man caucasian shadow persona!

    And that ain’t just some of that uppity lefty overanalytical hooey!

  305. You’re always honing your response, i.e., ‘position’ on the matter via your working-man caucasian shadow persona!

    Well, if you’re trying to accuse me of bias in this I surely readily admit that I can be capable of bias just like anyone else. But the only evidence you’re giving is quite anecdotal and specific to you, and you’re a self-admitted black man who’s never dated black women.

    And what I’m saying here is not some unique perspective at all, lots of non-blacks are saying it based on the overwhelming totality of their experience and observation. And considering that you think that the depiction of miscegenation in Hollywood is still “incendiary” here in 2016 I’m thinking that it may be you who needs to broaden the horizons, get out of the house a little bit, talk to some people, and consider from wisely and carefully. LOL

  306. Miscegenation is symbolically evident in ‘merica from low-brow to high-brow iconry —- from the Kardashian clan to the family of the current POTUS.

    But isn’t it all pretty much black men and white women?
    That seems to me something entirely different than just “miscegenation.”
    Maybe it’s just easier for you to accept given your background, and um… your successes with white women as you seem to be quite proud of. 🙂

  307. I should qualify – it seems what is most commonly represented in pop culture is BM-WF couplings.

    I have no idea what the current dating and marriage stats are… nor do I feel like looking them up right now.. Cam probably has a better idea

  308. You are all UNWILLING TO SEE what is right in front of your face when it comes to “angry black female.”

    Her “black man” USED TO MISCEGENATE for the STRUGGLE while she was slimultaneously brainwashed into believing her great “black” granny was raped by Mr. Wite Supremaciss JUST FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES (and satanic sadism too).

    Now she learns her “black man” miscegenates (and rapes with satanic shits and giggles old white grannies) BECAUSE there IS NO STRUGGLE and Mr. Wite Supremaciss WILL NOT EVEN touch her let alone rape her “black” granny…

    It is a total mindfugg.

  309. “But isn’t it all pretty much black men and white women?
    That seems to me something entirely different than just “miscegenation.”
    Maybe it’s just easier for you to accept given your background, and um… your successes with white women as you seem to be quite proud of.🙂”

    No. Anecdotally i see as many bf-wm unions as I do bm-wf; and i only raise this topic via the obsessive interest of the latter by commenters here. i just call what i see via my nine-to-five. i’m as tired of the subject as you seem……. and for the record i’ve talked about or ‘boasted’ or whatever of my own conquests two or three times: once, when i snapped over some fool bragging about how he seduced away some ‘mudshark’ with her man at Arby’s; and another instance recently where i referenced that same occasion. And then there’s some clearing up the record: for instance, today Cam says i’ve never dated a black female —– after earlier in the week saying i said i had a ‘serious relationship’ with a bf, therefore consolidating my low-hierarchy inclinations or whatever. But i never said either; i’ve dated bf’s, and it was a modest relationship, as were most beside my sole marriage of a few years. I don’t ‘boast.’ I tell simple biographical truths when the discussion makes as much relevant; the false attributions, again, are more about my fellow commenters than is me and how i rep my past —— a past that’s growing quite distant to boot. truth is, i regret a few times being goaded into those anecdotes. But what’s a halfrican to do when his inquisitors start talking shite and bringing up self-serving interpretations of utterances on the record?

    If we’re going to disclose psychodynamics of our romances, across ethnic lines or not, it’s a waste of time to lard those memories with contemporary racial attitude bona-fides that speak more of what one wishes versus for-the-record personal history. And if it’s some comfort, i’ve had ‘encounters’ that would confirm me coming out on the sad end of the racial divide; i know the curious emptiness that arises at times from the sexual end of the racial divide; i’ve had relunctant, p.c. blowjobs, where the provider isn’t there emotionally; you can feel the ambivalence in the tepid suction —– a subset of the larger void of decadent sex borne out of tawdry relative material circumstance and gain. It’s just awkward talking about stuff like that because everyone has their own history to reckon with and one tends to use their own past as comparative measure—- and that is a fool’s errand, lest one remembers what i’ve said numerous times: no one gets out of this shite alive.

    Again, I say ask LBF if cultural or material advantage makes for fulfilling and transcending sexual encounters……. I say to all that, be careful of what you wish for.

  310. i’m as tired of the subject as you seem……. and for the record i’ve talked about or ‘boasted’ or whatever of my own conquests two or three times

    Trickin, you are as interested in the subject as anyone, judging by how often you write about it.

    To cast the subject as being an obsession of others, and on which you come in to set the record straight, in spite of being “tired” of it, is not a forthright perspective.

    And as far as having boasted about your conquests two or three times? Yes, you have boasted about them two or three times, that is a fact — and then maybe two or three hundred more times on top of that.

  311. As far as black girls’ self-esteem. On the one side, nikcrit sees them crying after school and makes the case that despite their bluster on the bus they are delicate flowers.

    Everyone else suggests the HBD line that black girls have inordinate and shallow self-conception that includes thinking that they are it, that they are in good spirits and feel good and are ready to dance and suck dicks and good times, and everyone else is lame.

    But as has been noted, tears are not incompatible with raging self-esteem. Rather they are a byproduct of emotionalism, which teenage girls are run rampant with.

    To evaluate self-esteem, a real metric like suicide rates is the best answer.

  312. “Yes, you have boasted about them two or three times, that is a fact — and then maybe two or three hundred more times on top of that.”

    That is a lie that you’vre joined along in; it’s provable: search for ‘nikcrit’ and ‘conquest’ or some other telltale search word and the title of this blog…… but no matter: you won’t; i wouldn’t bother either; best of all: you could join in the groupthink gag on me and never have to support that slander, so again: why bother?

    ohhh, man….. i could use about four more hours of sleep!

  313. “To evaluate self-esteem, a real metric like suicide rates is the best answer.”

    Yes. I agree. And my anecdotal experience—–very anecdotal—– jibes with that. Perfectly.

    elk, i appreciate the fact that you’re humble and honest and will reckon with the truth most of the time—– even if it makes you appear in some way unseemly. Cam just can’t drop the pretense of confrontation.

    It’s too far gone an argument now to hope for a semblance of reason: but trust that the “Preciouses” of our here and now, those obese and dark-complected black girls, are hardly beacons of boundless self-esteem. Really!

  314. Cam just can’t drop the pretense of confrontation.

    What are you talking about? We were arguing a point in good faith, we are all men here and I never criticized you at all, just your idea. Quit being a pansy, maybe you need to switch sides of the desk with those blubbering teen girls and pour your heart out to them. lol

  315. Black girls have their cliques and internal hierarchies too. Are the things you observe the normal angst of a lower-ranking teenager relative to her peers?

  316. i know the curious emptiness that arises at times from the sexual end of the racial divide; i’ve had relunctant, p.c. blowjobs, where the provider isn’t there emotionally; you can feel the ambivalence in the tepid suction —– a subset of the larger void of decadent sex borne out of tawdry relative material circumstance and gain.

    So, you got high with some chicks in the past and had some bad lays. Me, too. I just don’t talk about all my personal dirty laundry or party history the way that more “revealing” commenters like you or Elk might.

    And the vast majority of blowjobs are pretty enthusiastic, aren’t they?

  317. Cam just can’t drop the pretense of confrontation.

    And furthermore, I only took issue with your “shag bragging” when you called me out specifically. Otherwise, I never had a problem with you doing whatever or whoever, it takes two to tango so whatever chicks chose to kick it with Nikcrit were presumably doing so of their own volition and I’m not going to get upset about it.

  318. “Do you know of any black teenage girls who have committed suicide?”

    Yes! I wasn’t bull-shiting. There’s several in the district every school year —– and maybe a dozen more that lean that way in terms of classification but absent a required factor or two are categorically ‘inconclusive.’

    The means to cease life could be one of several methods, often prescription drugs. But I would say the source ’cause’ or ‘impetus’ for adolescent h.s. girls stems from personal angst over their looks or however you wish to put it. I’m not being some hysterical delicate lily over this subject?! I didn’t even know about such stuff before I took this gig; lol! (It’s actually sort-of amusing that Cam accused me of being as much, which would h umor anyone who knows me).

    Speaking of, RE. Cam’s reference/retort to ‘bad lays’: Ok, there I WAS being a bit tongue-in-cheek, with my biracial eros blues —- (trying out my Bret Easton Ellis-meets-Ta Nehisi Coates writing voice. lol!

  319. When i see local kids paired up black and white, it is always black male and white female, and the blacks will be higher in their intra-race status than their white counterpart.

    So for instance a black athlete with a working class white girl. Or an average black with a trashy white.

    The couples themselves, especially if they are young, know that it is provocative and that is a big part of the appeal. Most of those couples do not age well. By and large the white females involved are from the lower orders and working class at best, and they usually get fat pretty quick.

  320. “Black girls have their cliques and internal hierarchies too. Are the things you observe the normal angst of a lower-ranking teenager relative to her peers?”

    Yes, I guess that makes sense in terms of constructing a situational ‘parallel.’

    But I don’t see how that adds or subtracts from any point that I made. We were talking and elaborating about that very specific circumstance: the bluster of fat black girls.

  321. “When i see local kids paired up black and white, it is always black male and white female, and the blacks will be higher in their intra-race status than their white counterpart……So for instance a black athlete with a working class white girl. Or an average black with a trashy white.”

    That 1978 white-man’s fantasia of miscegenation is very, very tired and that much worse for wearing, I tell you.

    Maybe on the city bus, that’s what you see. But I would doubt even that. A suggestion: put yourself outside your usual milieu; go to a Minnetonka high-school and observe (or, if not there, the border ‘burb closer to the city, whose name i can’t summon this instant).

    And be willing to accept what you see; be open to any incoming cog-dis.

  322. Maybe on the city bus, that’s what you see. But I would doubt even that. A suggestion: put yourself outside your usual milieu; go to a Minnetonka high-school and observe (or, if not there, the border ‘burb closer to the city, whose name i can’t summon this instant).

    You’re out of your mind.

    Miscegenation rates for white women climb as you go down the socioeconomic ladder, especially amongst the lowest prole whites raised in single-mother households. They have the most in common with blacks in socioeconomic background.

    It’s just a fact, whether you like it or not doesn’t change it.

    The group of white women that miscegenate at the highest rates are strippers.

  323. suggestion: put yourself outside your usual milieu; go to a Minnetonka high-school

    LMAO. And what’s the percentage of blacks in Minnetonka? 2%…3% seriously

    This place is your shining example of interracial coupling? Every black male would have to impregnate 6-7 white women each to make a statistical dent.

  324. “This place is your shining example of interracial coupling?”

    I neither said nor implied any such thing. This is not a subject to discuss with you. Your best with sports and stereotypical racial behavior —- black and white. There you shine.

  325. “You’re out of your mind.”

    I’m not saying it’s more common in the more affluent ‘burbs; I’m saying that out there, the miscegenation that does exist will break that “higher-status-black-man-with-lower-status-white-woman” mold you seem ideologically beholden to.

    I’ve said it before: since the mid-20th-century, to both their advantage and peril, the culture (i.e., folklore, commerce, advertising, academic trends, etc.) tend to idealize the black male, in terms of eros and masculinity and the white female, in terms of symbolizing the ultimate in feminine beauty and aesthetics. (Many of you here have agreed with that and even stated as much, when it suits your larger ideological purpose, debate-by-debate.)

  326. “higher-status-black-man-with-lower-status-white-woman” mold you seem ideologically beholden to.

    Socioceonomics holds for whites with whites also, right? Do you often see a college-educated white woman who works a ladder-climbing yuppie office job going home to her prole white man wearing the light blue mechanic’s shirt with the oval name on the pocket?

    NO

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