Two Europes

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  2. The lights are going out throughout the West.

    Instead of drab grey, shouldn’t Western Europe be portrayed in red?

  3. Instead of drab grey, shouldn’t Western Europe be portrayed in red?

    It should be green as that is the color of Islam.

  4. I think Switzerland is going to be able to hold out very close to the Eastern European model on mass immigration.

    For a while it looked as if Denmark would stick to a hard line but they’ve still climbed to least 5% Muslim, and mostly of the high-fertility type from the Middle East. A huge portion of the Muslims in Switzerland are Bosnians and Croats that don’t breed quite as fast and do have some limited ability to assimilate.

    Spain and France are finished, they might as well start flying the crescent today.

    It’s hard to get reliable stats in Germany but it’s been reported that 15+% of new births there are to Muslim parents.

  5. And Italy only allows a grand total of 8 mosques. The UK and France have over 2,000 each. Italy blocks the building of Mosques and does not officially recognize Islam as a religion, cutting off access to public funding, finance channels and building of religious-oriented schools.

    Expulsion could be on the table for Muslims in Italy.

  6. “Spain and France are finished,”

    What is some of the on-the-ground detail re. Spain? I never hear about it in terms of European immigration discussion.

    I’ve never been to Spain —— but I kinda like the music.

  7. France suffers from guilt over its colonial past in Algeria, and has attempted to redress that by letting in a flood of Muslims that started with Algerians but then ballooned into many others from various other areas.

  8. Athens is the only Western capital that does not feature a Mosque. No politician in Greece wants to be the one to trumpet that through regulatory hoops due to fear of Golden Dawn and their militant Far Right.

  9. France suffers from guilt over its colonial past in Algeria

    Whites are the only race that engage in such introspection. When it’s done reasonably, it is a good trait to have. We look into our past and can see what works and what doesn’t. But we have to recognize when others take advantage of our magnanimity and respond ethically.

  10. Spain has allowed in a huge amount of Morroccans.

    Spain is also going to experience problems from the huge numbers of Latin Americans it has let into the country over the past few decades, they dominate a lot of the low-level professions. They’re generally of a higher quality than the short, squat Mestizo/Indio border jumpers the USA is seeing, but will not perform as well as native Spaniards in education in subsequent generations.

  11. I don’t get the symbolism on the part of the map that covers Western Europe. What does the child’s doll and that yellow cellophane paper signify?

  12. It’s a little girl who died in the truck attack in Nice, which the media tried to censor (while of course plastering all over the front pages the dead refugee kid on the beach). There were 10 children mowed down in that attack.

  13. MGE…

    But the Nice attack has false flag written all over it and “censor” is what happens when so little of the manufactured “reality” is distributed to the public.

  14. These jihad attacks are now in the realm of real versus unreal with the “war on terror” using false flags to draw out the extremist elements ON ALL SIDES…

    At the same time, “false flag” MAY NOW PRESENT cover for real jihad violence.

    SEPARATION IS THE ONLY VIABLE OPTION LEFT.

  15. I have never understood, in particular, that Northern European passivity and docileness toward their aggressors; the crowning epitome of that attitude, to me, was the Lockerbie bombing of that plane that blew up over Scotland —– and the fact that the govt. cut a deal and gave the bomber early ‘compassionate release’ in the name of forgiveness (and later, it was found out, as part of a Libyan arms deal, aribitrated by Brit prime minister Blair!)….. I recall the Scottish president (or whatever their head title) speaking of ‘forgiveness’ and ;’moving on.’ Some of the victims’ relatives did as much; nothing i could do but i’ll grant the victims’ any response they come to find that suits them.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-scotland-south-scotland-17152620?SThisFB

  16. The last paragraph of the story in the following link refutes ‘rumors’ of an oil deal being involved in the Lockerbie bomber’s release —— yet it was later revealed to be true; the details included a lame-duck Blair being the go-between for this arms-for-oil deal between the U.K., Scottland and Qadaffi’s Libya:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/aug/20/lockerbie-bomber-released

    And this stuff was negotiated by the ‘leaders’ of the NW European people?

    This stuff is so unexplainable to me, so counter-intuitive to my own instincts; thus, that is how I come up with these ‘white elite ennui’ theories, the “Is-that-all-there-is?” explanation.

    Can you think up a better reason?

  17. For those of us expecting (and looking forward to) civil war in Europe, check out the new subversive novel ‘Guerilla‘ by Laurent Obertone, just published in France.

  18. Nikcrit…

    Again.

    Think the Nordic scale and the degree to which one is viscerally in tune with his existential ranking AND how this plays out going forward.

    What you “see” are aspects of the “white race” WHO ARE CLOSEST TO REAL EXTINCTION and the reaction thereof…

    Like the gazel simply laying down to be eaten after being absolutely exhausted by the chase…. And the big cat understanding this total unwillingness to live anymore simply squeezes that neck in his jaws EVER SO GENTLY knowing it’s a mere matter of moments… It’s already over.

  19. This stuff is so unexplainable to me, so counter-intuitive to my own instincts; thus, that is how I come up with these ‘white elite ennui’ theories, the “Is-that-all-there-is?” explanation.

    Can you think up a better reason?

    Christianity.
    Commandments to “Love thy neighbor” and “forgive thy enemies” are not incidental to the religion, they central dogma.

  20. have never understood, in particular, that Northern European passivity and docileness toward their aggressors

    It took a couple centuries of sustained attacks by Muslim invaders before the first crusade was launched, a fact that was conveniently forgotten by Obama when he callously invoked the Crusades as a sin committed in the name of Christ. Obama sold himself as a uniter, but it turns out he just can’t restrain himself from smug lefty moralizing even at the national prayer breakfast, or a memorial for assassinated cops.

    I wonder if Obama would ever go to a mosque and admonish muslims for their centuries of brutal slavery. I bet he doesn’t even know that Muslims enslaved millions of Europeans, or that they castrated all their African slaves.

  21. And this stuff was negotiated by the ‘leaders’ of the NW European people?

    That’s just the ugly reality of politics. At some point Libya had paid severall $$ billion to the survivors/families affected by the Lockerbie bombing. Qaddafi had also helped the West with intelligence on Al Qaeda, had openied the country to nuclear/chemical weapons inspectors and also made agreements with Italy to HALT African migration thru Libya to the coast where they could board boats to Italy. (this is why the “migration crisis” has exploded since Qaddafi’s fall)

    Qaddafi needed the weapons because his tribe was a relatively small one controlling all of Libya, and he didn’t have many friends elsewhere in the Muslim world due to being an eccentric, perverted weirdo. (a lot like Saddam Hussein)

    Also, Qaddafi actually smuggled in several arms shipments to the IRA in the 70′-80’s. If you watch that movie “Rules of Engagement” it showed IRA training camps under him in North Africa – he was actually liked by some in Ireland and/or Eastern Europe.

    I don’t believe we should be supporting Israel or intervening in the Middle East at all, but I wish the West would’ve given Libya MORE weapons and allowed Qaddafi and his sons to stay in office.

  22. “Think the Nordic scale and the degree to which one is viscerally in tune with his existential ranking AND how this plays out going forward…….What you “see” are aspects of the “white race” WHO ARE CLOSEST TO REAL EXTINCTION and the reaction thereof…”

    In truth, i thought of that right away —- that the most docile and feeble-ized Europeans are actually amongst the smartest and most-needed as world-leading exemplars. I see a correlation between the docility and the ‘Nordicness’; first thing i thought about. … i feel i got some o f that in me; that ‘Nordic-ness,’ or whatever. Better to say, i feel my maternal relatives have that quality, and i see it manifest in which other Euros seem to give them a sort-of tacit deference and presumptive authority….. I even think at times I give off that quality, but combined with my west-African heritage, it creates a sort-of cog-dis in certain whites and they get simultaneously intimidated AND a tad resentfully envious….. however arrogant or crazy that seems.

    But there definitely seems to be a correlation between a Euros “Nordic-ness” or “Northern-ness” and their docile, reliquishing characters, mos’ def.

  23. MGE…

    Your sexual stuntedness does not allow you to conceive those above “quotes” with absolute certainty.

    If “thy enemies” INCLUDES “thy self,” ie., YOU recognize the self-annihilator THEN you have a very NEW interpretation… One that says DON’T HATE YOURSELF!

    And WHEN you drop AS THY SELF THEN you undermine and repudiate free willed reciprocation. A true neighbor is willingly chosen and loved with reciprocation. Ergo, neighbors SHOULD WILLINGLY choose each other.

  24. Nikcrit…

    “Docile” is not the word to describe those knowingly taking their last step towards self-annihilation.

    And in the eye of the “white” gazel is still an earnestness to self-annihilate gracefully that just “transcends” a merely docile demise.

  25. Austria is possibly as high as 8% Muslim, too but they trend more towards the Turkey/Balkans type so not as dumb, violent or un-assimilable as the FOB communities in Brussell or Paris that are effectively churning out new terror cells on an hourly basis.

  26. Ideally if there is to be any Islamic immigration it should come from the less extreme and more educated segments of the Islamic world, however that is no panacea as we’ve see with many recent attacks, the terrorists were middle class, educated and second generation.

    The problem is that Islam reliably drifts towards extremism because the Koran is inherently violent. Militant jihad and hatred of the infidel is arguably the central message of the Koran no matter how much it’s moderates or liberal apologists try to gloss over that fact.

  27. The violence in Islam emanates from the same place as does the violence of the Western “leftist” and that’d be in its adherents’ desire for sexual degeneracy and any thwarting thereof.

  28. “the terrorists were middle class, educated and second generation.”

    I’ve read numerous features and thumb-sucker-type pieces positing likely terrorist qualities and profiles and one that consistently comes up is the college-educated immigrant who has enough style and intellection to be envious and resentful of western wealth and beauty, in terms of the kind of women likely out of his reach; my guy says they like a sort of crude but commercial standard in terms of wealth and beauty, with their western education bringing them a desire level that’s just refined enough to be thoroughly out of their reach (evne tho when i was in LA a lot I saw a lot of Arab men with attractive white females, though that was likely lopsided wealth pairings and scenarios, etc.

    I remember back in the Rustbelt, when i first started playing out and was 17 or 18, before going to UW, the Arab guys who hit the dance and live-music clubs were often real tacky —– the sort-of Iroq-Z Camaro kind who blasted later-era Rod Stewart songs. Many sure seem to lik the western decadence thing, however infidel-ish that is.

  29. It’s especially interesting to follow the comments under a graphic/visual post. It’s outside of my comfort and rhetorical skill zone (plus my graphic design skills are rudimentary only) but I’ve been paying attention to the pointers on rhetoric in “SJWs Always Lie” and on VD’s blog. Things I learned about cartoons and other satirical graphics: they have to reflect reality; they have to have a simple message; that message needs to be instantly recognizable by its target audience.

    I originally conceptualized it “big,” with the girl on asphalt over France, then various images of angry muds, burning cars, etc. elsewhere, and finally an image of Breivik looking down from over the North Sea. In Eastern Europe, I was thinking of images of happy White kids and other images of security and freedom — such as Ramzpaul’s photo of Budapest from the earlier post. And Orban or maybe Putin looking protectively over it. And the two Europes, I had separated physically like two non-joined jigsaw puzzle halves with a wall or barbed wire between them.

    Start additive (pile on the ideas via brainstorming), finish subtractive (cut and simplify). That’s what I did here. The piling on of images would have been cluttered and overkill, each muffling the other’s impact. The wall or concertina wire separation would have been visually noisy with all the flags — plus it would have sent a message I didn’t want to send — that the two Europes don’t give a damn about each other — or that Western Europe is written off, which it is far from.

    My message was hopefully obvious. If not, then I haven’t honed in my “cartooning” skills well enough yet. One thing I did intentionally do is re-create the Iron Curtain line (except for there now being one Germany). Rhetoric forgives minor inconsistencies and liberties, dialectic does not. EE has its problems, for example. Though I wonder if the Iron Curtain line isn’t in fact a big part of the current divide. The former Communist countries don’t have the welfare in place to attract immigrants, and it hasn’t had the decades of Liberal indoctrination that Western liberal democracies have had.

  30. — Ideally if there is to be any Islamic immigration it should come from … (MGE)

    Just for my part, I’ve stopped legitimizing any notion of immigration, from anywhere to anywhere else. It’s time to think subtractively again in terms of national destines. At this point weighing between better and worse migrants is like debating where it’s least harmful to cut a hypovolemic patient. Or better metaphor: what street drugs and in what measures are least harmful to someone who is OD’ing.

    Fact is, West’s mission looking ahead once their neoliberal elites are removed form power, is how to repatriate the multiple generations of immigrants. Any measure to restore national/racial coherence has to be in play for consideration.

  31. — Like the gazel simply laying down to be eaten after being absolutely exhausted by the chase…. And the big cat understanding this total unwillingness to live anymore simply squeezes that neck in his jaws EVER SO GENTLY knowing it’s a mere matter of moments… It’s already over. (Thordaddy)

    Strong image. I don’t subscribe to the theories of innate exhaustion or ennui as a national condition. Temporary demoralization, blue pill Marxist confusion, yes. Some of the features of post-WWII Western decline is that it has been engineered under conditions of material prosperity and that its authority figures looked and sounded like the people themselves, not like a foreign or colonial occupant whom it would have been thinkable to resist.

  32. I’ve read numerous features and thumb-sucker-type pieces positing likely terrorist qualities and profiles and one that consistently comes up is the college-educated immigrant who has enough style and intellection to be envious and resentful of western wealth and beauty,

    Maybe there’s something to that, but if so, a very small part of the equation. Just look at the attack in Dhaka over the summer. All the terrorists were wealthy native sons. So the Marxist analysis fails big time in that scenario. Also you don’t see Arab Christians from similar socioeconomic circumstances blowing themselves up in cafes, or Hindus, Yazidis, or Druze for that matter. No – this shit is all coming from one religion. And the reason why they are doing is very clearly spelled out and it has everything to do with an all too plausible interpretation of the Koran and the Hadiths, adhered to most fanatically by certain Sunni sects.

    Secular liberal westerners consistently fail to take the Islamists motives at face value. Check out this op-ed from Sam Harris. He does a great job of cutting through the BS liberal pieties surrounding Islam. Also worth listening to is this episode of his podcast What Do Jihadists Really Want.

  33. Secular liberal westerners consistently fail to take the Islamists motives at face value. — MGE

    Buttjew DO THE SAME EXACT THING and refuse to acknowledge that the self-annihilating, mass murdering jihadist DESIRES seventy-two “lily white” virgins for eternal smashings…

    In other words, you REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE that at the heart of jihadist savagery is desire for perpetuating sexual degeneracy

  34. When it comes to Islam you’ve got to understand that Muslims do not get along with each other. The Middle East is full of deep tribal division, armed factions, little political cooperation and constant civil war. Syria only has like 22 million people, that’s population roughly the size of Florida.

    And Middle Easterners don’t trust each other socially, either – their trade and commerce sucks, investment is low and something like 1/3 of marriages in the Middle East are still between 1st or 2nd cousins because they want to keep the cost of the bride price/dowry within the family.

    If the people of the Middle East got along they could indeed form the caliphate that their militants constantly discuss, and the 7 million Jews in tiny New Jersey-sized Israel surely wouldn’t stand a chance, but Hamas and Hezbollah are almost as likely to fight each other in the region.

    Opposition to the West is the one that thing they can all agree upon, hatred of American politics and/or values has become a catch-all outlet for every young, adrenaline filled youth who wants to do something with his miserable life and ugly wife in some shit*ty crapistan.

    Secular liberal westerners consistently fail to take the Islamists motives at face value.

    Yes, we’ve got endless videos of Bin Laden or Al-Awlaki plainly talking about how they hate the USA’s patronage of Israel and military involvement in the Middle East, but cuckservatives (like Bush/O’Reilly/ Neocons, etc.) still spent the last 25 years saying “terrorists hate us for our freedom!!” and other similar stupidity, with Republicans following them along into disaster.

  35. I’ve read numerous features and thumb-sucker-type pieces positing likely terrorist qualities and profiles and one that consistently comes up is the college-educated immigrant who has enough style and intellection to be envious and resentful of western wealth and beauty,

    I’d have to agree, but you don’t even need to read any other literature to know this. Just look at what we see from the Interlopers you see right here on the alt right. Idiot commenters like curryvinus or that Desi brown thing are clearly motivated by a strong inferiority complex, their writing is dripping with envy and some bizarre need to insult the civilization of White Westerners in their own minds.

  36. But low IQ is also a factor – the recent terrorist in Orlando and the dude who ran the truck through the crowd in Nice, France were both dumb as bricks, achieving embarrassingly little in life and having very little status even in their own immigrant communities. A lot of the no go zones in France or Belgium are chock-filled with similar types – not bright enough to do well in Western economies or be very well liked by Western women, often involved in petty crime but then “radicalized” by some preacher later in life.

    For some of these 2nd or 1.5 generation terrorists converting to radical Islam is a way of escaping just how big of a shameful loser they really are. One of those terrorists that killed the Priest in France has a famous sister who produces “booty therapy” twerking videos for Youtube, which should be a point of monumental shame for any Muslim family. And that last round of terrorists in Belgium had been spotted at nightclubs in prior weeks getting drunk and ridiculed in their garish clothing striking out while attempting to talk to Belgian girls.

  37. Another Greek bailout? Like Trappists, this modern world isn’t for them. It may be to their credit — they may birth another Europa, their vision overtaking the automated world like a waking lion stepping over toy laminated planes.

    “God always geometrizes.” -Plato

  38. When it comes to Islam you’ve got to understand that Muslims do not get along with each other. The Middle East is full of deep tribal division, armed factions, little political cooperation and constant civil war.

    But you have to understand why there is so much sectarian strife in the Islamic world. And an analysis that involves only economics, genetics, or politics simply won’t do – – these people don’t have ordinary political concerns that we would recognize in our late capitalist phase. You have to understand that the Islamic world is shackled to 7th century religious text that encourages permanent jihad against the infidel. No matter how seriously that charge is adhered to by a majority of Muslims, there is a large and growing segment of the Islamic world that earnestly believe in it and will stop at nothing to fulfill their apocalyptic vision. The only thing stopping them from burning this world to the ground to usher in the caliphate is lack of technology and we must see to it that they never get it.

    When W. Bush said “they hate us for our freedom” what he was saying was literally true, as much as he was mocked for that by our decadent liberal elite. I always find it interesting when I talk about Islamism with Christian fundamentalists they are easily able to intuit the motivations of Islamism because they understand what is like to actually believe in an apocalyptic text; this is a huge blindspot of our current secular elite who project all kinds of sociopolitical motives to their behavior that are secondary to their spiritual motives. What is it that motivates us spiritually in the postmodern west anymore? How many people would put down their Xbox controller and strap on a suicide vest for iteration of the iPhone?

  39. I again encourage everyone to read the article “Why We Hate You and Why We Fight You” from the latest issue of Dabiq , the Islamic State’s magazine.

    What’s important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular reason for hating you is secondary, hence the reason we addressed it at the end of the above list. The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam. Even if you were to pay jizyah and live under the authority of Islam in humiliation, we would continue to hate you. No doubt, we would stop fighting you then as we would stop fighting any disbelievers who enter into a covenant with us, but we would not stop hating you.

    What’s equally if not more important to understand is that we fight you, not simply to punish and deter you, but to bring you true freedom in this life and salvation in the Hereafter, freedom from being enslaved to your whims and desires as well as those of your clergy and legislatures, and salvation by worshiping your Creator alone and following His messenger. We fight you in order to bring you out from the darkness of disbelief and into the light of Islam, and to liberate you from the constraints of living for the sake of the worldly life alone so that you may enjoy both the blessings of the worldly life and the bliss of the Hereafter.

    The gist of the matter is that there is indeed a rhyme to our terrorism, warfare, ruthlessness, and brutality. As much as some liberal journalist would like you to believe that we do what we do because we’re simply monsters with no logic behind our course of action, the fact is that we continue to wage – and escalate – a calculated war that the West thought it had ended several years ago. We continue dragging you further and further into a swamp you thought you’d already escaped only to realize that you’re stuck even deeper within its murky waters… And we do so while offe- ring you a way out on our terms. So you can continue to believe that those “despicable terrorists” hate you because of your lattes and your Timberlands, and continue spending ridiculous amounts of money to try to prevail in an unwinnable war, or you can accept reality and recognize that we will never stop hating you until you embrace Islam, and will never stop figh- ting you until you’re ready to leave the swamp of war- fare and terrorism through the exits we provide, the very exits put forth by our Lord for the People of the Scripture: Islam, jizyah, or – as a last means of fleeting respite – a temporary truce.

    The clear difference between Muslims and the corrupt and deviant Jews and Christians is that Muslims are not ashamed of abiding by the rules sent down from their Lord regarding war and enforcement of divine law. So if it were the Muslims, instead of the Cru-saders, who had fought the Japanese and Vietnamese or invaded the lands of the Native Americans, there would have been no regrets in killing and enslaving those therein. And since those mujahidin would have done so bound by the Law, they would have been thorough and without some “politically correct” need to apologize years later. The Japanese, for example, would have been forcefully converted to Islam from their pagan ways – and if they stubbornly declined, perhaps another nuke would change their mind. The Vietnamese would likewise be offered Islam or beds of napalm. As for the Native Americans – after the slaughter of their men, those who would favor small- pox to surrendering to the Lord – then the Muslims would have taken their surviving women and children as slaves, raising the children as model Muslims and

    The sword is a part of Allah’s law impregnating their women to produce a new genera- tion of mujahidin. As for the treacherous Jews of Eu- rope and elsewhere – those who would betray their covenant – then their post-pubescent males would face a slaughter that would make the Holocaust sound like a bedtime story, as their women would be made to serve their husbands’ and fathers’ killers.
    Furthermore, the lucrative African slave trade would have continued, supporting a strong economy. The Islamic leadership would not have bypassed Allah’s permission to sell captured pagan humans, to teach them, and to convert them, as they worked hard for their masters in building a beautiful country. Nota- bly, of course, those of them who converted, practiced their religion well, and were freed would be treated no differently than any other free Muslim. This is un- like when the Christian slaves were emancipated in America, as they were not afforded supposedly gov- ernment-recognized equal “rights” for more than a century – and their descendants still live in a nation divided over those days.

  40. Muslim chauvinism would have remained at the level of a cleric’s braggadocio if not for the fact that we let them into our countries. No immigration, no problem. The intermediate-future will reveal and explain all kinds of treachery behind the West’s ruling classes behavior going back to the early 1950, possibly involving deals with Saudis.

    The more I look back at the end of the Cold War, the more I see it as a tragedy. Is it surprising that my map reveals a continent’s divide along the old Iron Curtain line?

  41. PA – Jared and Stephan bring up that exact point on the second half of the podcast I linked to on the other thread.

  42. You have to understand that the Islamic world is shackled to 7th century religious text that encourages permanent jihad against the infidel.

    I don’t agree that Muslim terrorism stems from what is specifically listed in their religious texts. A close reading of the Christian “Old Testament” shows God authorizing his people to run about smiting, beheading and executing their enemies in his name on a pretty regular basis, as well.

    The Qu’ran itself is heavily influenced by the old Jewish/Christian texts and is certainly no more violent.

    There’s over a billion Muslims on the planet, but the terrorists willing to travel into the West and commit attacks stem from only a small handful of countries. These people would be militant, violent and stupid under any religion. Why? Because HBD.

    Iran has 80 million Muslims and Indonesia has nearly 200 million, but neither exports many terrorists to the West. Why? Because HBD.

    Either way, the specific reasons don’t really matter. Trump is right that the West needs to stop importing so many countries with a known terror footprint.

  43. “No immigration, no problem.”

    Exactly. The response to 9/11 shouldn’t have been invading Afghanistan or Iraq (though maybe a nuke over Mecca would have concentrated the Muslim mind), it should have been shutting the doors on all Muslims, closing the mosques and expelling the Muslim population.

    We could have maintained the tourism of wealthy Arabs who like to go on shopping sprees along Fifth Avenue, but such people could be very closely monitored and made sure they didn’t overstay visas.

    As some people said at the time, the Constitution is not a suicide pact. Though our religious establishment clause, so widely mis-interpreted, has become a kind of suicide pact after all. It was never meant to say you can’t discriminate against a given religion. And in any case, since most Muslim nations are 90%+ Muslim (cuz that’s how they role) you can easily block a set number of nations and, in effect, block the vast majority of Muslims on a national basis rather than a religious.

    Well, we never DO get the easy solutions to problems, do we? Because nobody can grift off the easy solutions.

  44. — A rare moment of candor in Hollywood: [Quinn for Homeland Understands the Problem] (MGE)

    I disagree that there is any truth, candor or anything of value in that video. It’s the familiar entertainment industry trope of the scathing Jew dressing down the goy ruling class (almost always in the form of obtuse senior military staff) — and always on their stupidity. Ever wonder why those “exasperated/ethical genius” characters always drip with so much contempt when carrying out their advisor duties?

    And in which script-writer’s fantasy does the General staff not know what “a few special forces guys” can or cannot do either tactically or strategically.

    And he wasn’t even counseling the truth. He provided the false dilemma of forced Westernization vs genocide. Because there is no third, glaringly obvious option when it comes to defending the West from Islam.

  45. The CORE of the “left” is EQUAL TO the CORE of Islam where said “core” is the sexual degenerate.

    Sexual degeneracy IS THE ROTTED ROOT of the RUTHLESSLY REVILED.

    Except… “We” occupy an inverted land where radical sexual autonomy is the source of all the liberationist cutthroat AND NOBODY NOTICES.

  46. Islam and the “left” represent the phenomenon of “perpetuating self-annihilation” by means of “radical sexual autonomy.”

    Now a white Supremacist works faithfully to destroy this ^^^ paradigm AT THE PLACE OF perpetuation.

  47. Somewhat off topic. Gaze at this photo of children in Illinois, in 1950, waiting for school uniforms.

    http://www.shorpy.com/node/21365?size=_original#caption

    Is there a single town, anywhere in America today, where a picture of schoolchildren would have 100% white faces? Even the whitest towns will have Asians and some Mexicans. Is there a town in Western Europe where you could replicate this photo? No.

    That’s where it really hits you. When you see pictures of school classes, and they are far and away majority non-white, even in white areas. That’s our future.

  48. I’m with you in spirit Peterike until you got to “That’s our future.” Nobody knows the future and the future will be what we make it. Forced race-mixing, both genetic and social, is so monstrous and repulsive that you can’t rule out a complete reversal of the current situation. It’s a womanish (no offense man, I’m criticizing your rhetoric and not you) throwing up of arms that demoralizes people who are actually working on changing things. Statements like that also makes people who like race-mixing on a sub-rational level smile with malice (as much as they’d consciously deny that it pleases them) and I don’t want them to experience any such cheap satisfaction.

  49. Thordaddy, I have no idea what that means except that now according to you we should be fucking and marrying colored women.

  50. Some of the blame must go to high IQ “white” males with no imperialism in their sexuality.

    By this I think that Thordaddy means that procreation = genetic expansion = conquest.

    If you get to where you feel too economically and socially well off and live for the enjoyment of the moment and sexual liberation (autonomy) without consequences you risk losing your manly aggression and desire to expand, populate, explore and conquer – then you get soft and decline in numbers, while others of less mental advantage win the genetic battle in the way they’re capable – by multiplying haphazardly.

  51. PA…

    That’s because you will not conceive of (I)mperial-ism OUTSIDE of its relation to “coloreds.” You are STUCK in that liberated frame.

    How you cannot see a lack of white children as directly attributable to the radical sexual AUTONOMY (read: anti-(I)moerial-ism) of the high IQ “white” male liberationist astounds me.

  52. Edit:

    How you cannot see a lack of white children as directly attributable to the radical sexual AUTONOMY (read: anti-[(I)mperial-ism]) of the high IQ “white” male liberationist astounds me.

  53. Thordaddy, I will go with Camlost’s interpretation “procreation = genetic expansion = conquest.” If that is what you are saying, then are you talking about a mindset or specific actions?

  54. RE Camlost’s comment: “By this I think that Thordaddy means that procreation = genetic expansion = conquest……If you get to where you feel too economically and socially well off and live for the enjoyment of the moment and sexual liberation (autonomy) without consequences you risk losing your manly aggression and desire to expand, populate, explore and conquer – then you get soft and decline in numbers, while others of less mental advantage win the genetic battle in the way they’re capable – by multiplying haphazardly.”

    Hmm, that sounds sort-of like a theory of mass white enervation….ennui…..Is-that-all-there-is-ism? Oh, but wait; I think the resident mongrel came up with some theory like that initially. And And we can ‘t give him due credit at a r.r. alt-right site, now can we?

    (Actually, Thor’s characterization—- “His annihilation is largely a chosen deracination.”—– is a pretty tight example of ‘white ennui’ or ‘white enervation’ in my book.

    But no need to get petty and racially aligned in our choice of semantics.

  55. PA…

    Does it take a mind of conquest to regenerate? I think it takes something greater than that seeing that a mind for conquest does not at all negate desire for sexual degeneracy.

  56. “Statements like that also makes people who like race-mixing on a sub-rational level smile with malice (as much as they’d consciously deny that it pleases them) and I don’t want them to experience any such cheap satisfaction.”

    I think because your position and stance (i,.e., ‘side’) in the b-vs-w dichotomy is so symbolically established and entrenched, you have a hard time believing that anyone else can’t be doing anything but agreeing with you or feeling a precise and extreme inversion of the opposite of your position: being fervently pro race-mixing.

    But you are incapable of someone being genuinely indifferent to that particular dynamic between two humans; you’ve even at times insisted that such a position is forged, or some kind of moral or politically correct posture. It certainly is at times, but it’s also at times a genuine conviction (or should we say, lack thereof a specific conviction).

    And for the same reason they do genuinely feel such neutrality, i bet you so strongly do not: The particular circumstances and demographics of your formative experience.

  57. re. third paragraph of my last comment: first sentence should read “But you are incapable of BELIEVING THAT someone could be genuinely indifferent…..”

  58. And what is that thing?

    Respect for the fathers. Which means “patriarchy” even though T-Diddy shuns the use of popular terms.

    Statements like that also makes people who like race-mixing on a sub-rational level smile with malice

    Looks like there’s much that is still unresolved amongst the panelists here. Maybe it’s time for a “New Superman, 2.0” thread. 🙂

  59. “Maybe it’s time for a “New Superman, 2.0” thread.”

    That’s on him but yet you put it on me…..

    PA, i have a question: do you feel the same level of distaste for White-Hispanic or White-Asian “interracial-ness” as you do for White-Black relations? No moral posture or sanctimony; just wondering if —- because, then i would wonder why, assuming your all-white upbringing found hispanics and asians as absent as blacks in your childhood development environment.

    Meanwhile, Cam is still reveling in his alabaster phenotype and non-epicanthic eyefolds —– but underneath inside, nestled somewhere near his soul, lie those essential Yellow haplotypes, just waiting to arise!! 🙂

  60. You ascribe way to much to my formative experiences, some of which rest in your mind on false premises. Point is, the fact that classrooms such as the ones in Peterike’s photo are targeted for destruction and that is genocide. And I oppose genocide.

  61. I agree that a lot of current priorities are detrimental to white population, but I don’t know why anyone —- NAM or Non-NAM alike —— would want to eradicate whites. We went over that upthread; but to get to the point, I say to a great extent, we don’t have any real future human population if we have no white population.

    There was a great emancipation of the colored world in the 20th-century; mass media allowed for more interracial dissent and, in the case of the ruling-class whites, INTRA-racial ambiguity, ennui, and, yeah, dissent. What we’re dealing with now is an imbalanced after-effect, p.c. sanctimony and dogma —– the self-serving propaganda of discriminatory policies settled.

    It’s painful for those who have to endure it, but it’s a relative historical hiccup.

  62. I think because your position and stance (i,.e., ‘side’) in the b-vs-w dichotomy is so symbolically established and entrenched, you have a hard time believing that anyone else can’t be doing anything but agreeing with you or feeling a precise and extreme inversion of the opposite of your position: being fervently pro race-mixing.

    The syntax in this quoted sentence is hard to follow, and “extreme inversion of the opposite” is a sort of double-negative, which if logically processed negates (what i take to be) the intended meaning; which is more clear in this following paragraph,

    But you are incapable of someone being genuinely indifferent to that particular dynamic between two humans; you’ve even at times insisted that such a position is forged, or some kind of moral or politically correct posture. It certainly is at times, but it’s also at times a genuine conviction (or should we say, lack thereof a specific conviction).

    I for one know that plenty of people are indifferent to race-mixing.

    Those people are raceless.

    By definition, white people and those of other race who are indifferent to the dynamic of race mixing, are raceless. I don’t think a more concise definition can be come up with.

  63. “By definition, white people and those of other race who are indifferent to the dynamic of race mixing, are raceless. I don’t think a more concise definition of facelessness can be come up with.”

  64. A more precise definition of racelessness might be hard to come up with.

    It is worth keeping in mind that, aside from unsocial internet contrarians, Racism is not something necessarily reveled in.

    Racism has to be understood as the inevitable result of competition between competing types of humans.

    There need not be any bad will or malice involved.

    People of Race are naturally opposed to those without it.

  65. “The syntax in this quoted sentence is hard to follow, and “extreme inversion of the opposite” is a sort of double-negative, which if logically processed negates (what i take to be) the intended meaning; which is more clear in this following paragraph,”

    Yes, I noticed the very double-neg you cite a short while ago……. I apologize; i’ve been pretty sloppy as of late in terms of syntax……

  66. Those people who are indifferent, to the dynamic of mating and sex and procreating between individuals of different races — aka race-mixing — are raceless.

    Something has to be said about those people. And it’s not a good thing.

    What do they have in lieu of their Race?

    Of this Set of People who are indifferent to race-mixing, a clear distinction exists between those are already mixed and those are not.

  67. We will not succeed in representing our interests as a White ethny — as White Americans, as Diaspora Euros — without explicit appeal to Racism.

    This is kind of an old discussion, and one that has been chased around the barn for some time, but the term does have to be “owned.”

    It is such an easy concept. The red squirrel versus the grey squirrel — there’s only so many nuts on the ground; the brown bear versus the black — only so many hollow logs to lay in; the Mexicans versus the you-know-whats — only so many watermelons!

  68. Camlost…

    I do not “shun” using “patriarchy.” I use white Suprenacy instead so as to BE MORE PARTICULAR and avoid legitimating a discussion of matriarchy.

  69. — there’s only so many nuts on the ground (Elk)

    I agree with your string of thoughts but it’s not really a question of limited resources in the here-and-now. It’s not even conventional warfare and invasion. It’s a top-down engineered compacting of various Coloreds (whose being here is not a condition for their survival or even well being) by our traitor institutions into our spaces. So here they are. It’s a common tendency to be magnanimous and “tolerant” of the mix when contemplating it at comfortable distance but every — EVERY — human being under such conditions spikes into genocidal fury as soon as one unpleasant interaction across such lines occurs. Woe to those who find themselves in the way of certain pent-up historic forces, when big police state no longer holds those forces back.

    — avoid legitimating a discussion of matriarchy (TD)

    I have a new post, will be up tomorrow morning and it deals with matriarchy.

  70. We will not succeed in representing our interests as a White ethny — as White Americans, as Diaspora Euros — without explicit appeal to Racism.

    This is kind of an old discussion, and one that has been chased around the barn for some time, but the term does have to be “owned.”

    Well, the term “racism” has expanded at breakneck pace over the last 8 years. By now it denotes anything you don’t like about the universe as long as you’re not a white male.

    Woe to those who find themselves in the way of certain pent-up historic forces, when big police state no longer holds those forces back.

    Obama’s coming did much to rouse and galvanize whites in a short time frame, while we still hold many levers of power and favorable numbers that include a highly conservative older generation. Better now than later.

    A standard black politician (like Jesse Jackson) in the White House would’ve just gained a few set asides and monetary payoffs for American blacks, but a committed anti-colonialist like Obama has now torn the mask off the anti-white nature of the entire worldwide liberal program in his haste to try to comport himself like the President of the World.

  71. “By definition, white people and those of other race who are indifferent to the dynamic of race mixing, are raceless. I don’t think a more concise definition of facelessness can be come up with.””

    Ok, but that is subjective; which is fine but not to be confused with an observation of empirical truth. It’s quite possible to be aware of ‘white’ and ‘black’ and ‘asian’ races, all the while not opposed to the mixing of those races.

    To get it to where you posit and declare, one would have to bring in variable of ‘value’ and attach it to the various terms, thereby correlating post-to-neg values with race……….

    I suppose what’s troubling to the race-minded nationalist is that the biracial can and historically has played the role of the literary trickster; i.e., a usurper of racial norms that have some historic use to those who’ve archived racial value and its zero-sum game. That same biracial can also serve somewhat as racial chameleon, which further complicates the value-correlation connection that the race-minded nationalist discerns and ascribes to in many ways.

    I don’t know where the resolve is there; to some degree, merely by being, existing, one is to some degree an existential threat to the other.

    Perhaps the resolve rests in some future ‘biracial culture,’ with a folklore to go with its various growing populations around the world?

  72. These people would be militant, violent and stupid under any religion. Why? Because HBD. (Cam)

    Geez Camlost you’re like the right wing version of the “Islam is a religion of peace!” crowd, except that instead of implicating western imperialism as a cause of terrorism you’re theory is HBD.

    Saying the religion of Islam has nothing to do with the terrorism that emanates from its fundamentalist adherents is like saying that Marxism has nothing to do with Khmer Rouge .

    It can be both. There may be genes responsible for a general tendency towards violence (though curiously recessive in Arab Christians) but it is Islam that provides the rationale. It is politically directed violence not the wanton barbarism you see in sub literate populations of sub Saharan Africa where they still burn witches and make albino stew. And it is the Koran and it’s ancillary doctrines that are very clear about what is to be done with the infidel.

    There are many relevant differences between the Judaic, Christian, and Islamic texts and doctrine that make it much easier for Jews and christians to bypass the violent content in the Bible which is not the case with Islam. For one thing, while God commanded the Israelites to smite specific tribes but there is no standing commandment to wage “jihad” against non-believers. Besides this is scarcely relevant to Christians who believe the covenant was renewed through the blood of Christ and if you can find verse commanding his apostles to aloha snackbar the infidel I’d like to see it.

    I just don’t see how you – or anyone else – can understand Islamic terrorism without taking the doctrine of Islam itself seriously as a cause. You are being too reductive. Yes DNA matters, but so does ideology.

  73. I recall this quite brilliant blogger who went by ‘Chuck’ and “Lesacre du Temps,” who MGE and I used to read, said the dilemma with contemporary racial consciousness is stuck in the ‘racist or raceless’ dichotomy, with of course neither absolute all that well-fitting for many casualties of the race divide…

    He sought to form of a center-right morality and ethos, in the way i would argue that guys here like PA and, particularly, Thordaddy go about attempting to. But Chuck/Lesacre was a bit more philosophically bound with ‘the other,’ in academic and biological ways.. Very interesting guy IMO; he had a sympathy for the earnestness and spiritual aims of the anti-racist, but he didn’t suffer fools gladly. He was keenly aware of all the traps and pitfalls that well-intentioned whites fall into and are preyed upon for —– those whites who PA characterizes so well as, “I’m not a racist but…” type whites.

  74. First of all, thordaddy doesn’t have a coherent theory on anything. He’s like an ouiji board, spewing out a bunch of low information gibberish that sounds just cryptic and portentous enough for people to project their own interpretation onto. It’s weird, frankly.

    Now regarding the decreased white birth ratios in the face of surplus third world fecundity: this phenomenon can be more parsimoniously explained by social, economic, and technological advances rather than some mass white ennui. R/k selection, the recent invention of birth control, feminism, increasing lifespans, the reduced need for an ever increasing supply of labor, etc… I think this is familiar alt-right territory.

    Smart white people understand that engaging in a reproductive arms race will result in an unsustainable ecological burden and eventual collapse. With the exception of Bill Gates, whose interventions in sub Saharan Africa will unleash a malthusian hellscape of the likes we’ve never seen.

  75. “I do not “shun” using ‘patriarchy.’ I use white [Supremacy] instead so as to BE MORE PARTICULAR and avoid legitimating a discussion of matriarchy.”

    Where…

    White Supremacy = (R)acism = immersion into the white father(s) = white patriarchal perfection.

  76. “No immigration, no problem.”

    No argument from me here.

    Where I do see real ennui is not at the top … it’s in the endless parade of mortifying “Stockings Men” I see I my day to day and with whom I have an intimate familiarity with. These people look like they’ve given up. They have no dignity. And why would you anymore, when your job has been shipped to Mexico, and when you are woken up every morning by a call to prayer emanating from a mosque that was built next to the section 8 apartments in your once pleasant neighborhood.

  77. MGE,
    Don’t just yet go writing off Thordaddy.

    He’s frustrating, no doubt. But there’s something to his mojo that’s worthwhile.

    I mean, it’s good that you’re finding your voice and saying what you will with less obligatory respect and other rote qualification. But there’s something unique there —– a very infrequent brilliance from honing an observation that’s free of any self-serving cant.

    He ain’t afraid of being an outcast.

  78. I just don’t see how you – or anyone else – can understand Islamic terrorism without taking the doctrine of Islam itself seriously as a cause. You are being too reductive. Yes DNA matters, but so does ideology.

    It doesn’t matter, we are arguing overly fine points because we both agree to the need to restrict or stop the immigration of these people into the USA.

    But my point is that ideology/culture only follows within the parameters of what DNA allows – when blacks became “Christians” what they get out of it is dancing and falling down while feelin’ the spirit (but not monogamy or orderly behavior) while whites go on being their normal, quiet and staid selves during sermons.

    Smart white people understand that engaging in a reproductive arms race will result in an unsustainable ecological burden and eventual collapse

    No white person has ever had more or less babies for this reason.

  79. To paraphrase, I think that Thordaddy has a real point with this comment that “the HIGH IQ white male of today lacks a sense of imperialism to his sexuality.”

    I don’t think that “Ennui” causes this, but I think that Ennui is allowed to take root and exist because of this lack and the resulting void. I don’t fully understand his idea, but it’s fascinating.

    Rest assured that he will flesh out more on this point, right T-Diddy?

  80. PA to me: “It’s a womanish (no offense man, I’m criticizing your rhetoric and not you) throwing up of arms that demoralizes people who are actually working on changing things”

    Yes, you are right. I shouldn’t vent such things publicly, but truth is I AM demoralized and just about worn out. I was “woke” — in our sense — really all my life, and I’ve been politically aware since the 80s when I tried to write-in Pat Buchanan, and the person at the polling station said “you can’t write in somebody else” and I just said the hell with it and voted for Reagan.

    And of course the great Reagan Revolution — all that promise! — came to naught. All that talk about shrinking the government! Nothing happened. A few bullshit programs cut at the margins, and growth rates for a few things cut back. That’s when Liberals invented the notion of calling a reduction in increase a “cut.” Incredible that you could spend more next year than this year, yet it was portrayed as a “cut.” Always the lies and distortions.

    Anyway, I knew the Reagan amnesty was a mistake at the time, and sure enough it proved true. Then I saw Clinton sell our economic and manufacturing patrimony away for a few cheap coins, and our ruling class hollow out the nation. I was aware of the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, all that stuff, along with early white nationalist/populist newspapers like the long lost Washington Spotlight which was screaming about Jewish control of America back in 70s and 80s. So it’s been a very long haul, and essentially nothing but a series of defeats.

    Trump is on the horizon, the greatest political movement since Andrew Jackson if you ask me. And if he wins perhaps I’ll be renewed. But yes, after nearly all my adult life of losing one battle after another, I’m demoralized. But then, it’s always darkest right before the dawn.

    Nikcrit: “PA, i have a question: do you feel the same level of distaste for White-Hispanic or White-Asian “interracial-ness” as you do for White-Black relations?”

    Well, he didn’t ask me, but imma answer anyway!

    More or less, but not quite. Surely, the most distasteful thing of all is a white woman with a black man. In fact, it’s always the white woman that makes it problematic. A white woman with anyone other than a white man is shameful and disgraceful in my eyes, blacks being the worst, but none being good.

    I’m less inclined to condemn a white man with an XYZ woman — as the apex human, white men have every right to fool around with all the women of the world — but I draw the line at them having children. I see TONS of white guys with Chink wives, toting around little Chinky babies. I always wonder, how do you look at that half-breed and think, “That is my child, that came from me”? So in effect, pretty much yeah, it’s all distasteful to me. I don’t condone any of it.

    Hispanic is vague because the upper crust Hispanics are essentially Europeans, and I’m fine with those. But a white woman with a fat little Mestizo is disgusting.

  81. Camlost…

    It is my contention that it is the “intellectual right” who is responsible for authoring the myriad of liberationist creation myths FOR THE PURPOSE of obscuring their unwillingness to embrace white Supremacy absolutely.

  82. Reading the local paper, courtesy of trickledown mediawhores, is a demoralizing experience.

    Yesterday the front page of the Star and Tribune was a montage of Trump and Clinton at the debate, and wouldn’t you know it, the selected pictures of Trump were as unflattering as possible and those of Clinton were her best shots.

    Considering there were 8 or 10 pictures of each candidate, perhaps one of Hillary’s could have been of her ghastly smile. That “smile” that she takes as a defensive animal reaction, a covering for fear, when Trump comes at her with some hard; that weird crazy drugged-out disbelieving inhuman leer, that look that no one can really describe because the vocabulary doesn’t exist because such a look is not in the domain of human expression.

    Perhaps for the record a decent paper would put that on the front page. Not only is it shocking, such a face — it is REAL.

    It is a point i have made before — but the sheer insanity of Hillary’s face — that people, anyone, will vote for her, in spite of that face and its awful expression, is discouraging. Amongst whom do we live?

    Another shitblack pill in yesterday’s paper was a letter to the editor from a Hillary voter, suggesting that the lack of Hillary yard signs was due to fear of Trump supporters. Because we all know that it is Trump supporters likely to vandalize.

  83. Complaining about the media — that itself is something of a blackpill, and i don’t mean to go there, but yeah i get discouraged too.

    At this point i want Trump to win as much for petty personal reasons, as for the Big Picture.

    Does that make me a bad person?

  84. I apologize for calling that awful woman by her first name. She does not deserve to be called, by a human name.

    She is a psychopath without empathy. Such people can only exist in a massively scaled-up society. They have defective brains that don’t allow them to feel other people.

    To put it simply and unironically, their brain structure does not allow them to feel other people.

    So when Bill Clinton famously said, I feel your Pain, that was a lie. And it is telling that that was one of his two or three most memorable lines. Black is white, and up is down.

    But to get back to the point that discourages me, in the real world, is that people don’t see the indications of that psychopathy and lack-of-empathy, written across everything about that woman. By way of explanation, it is my impression that the white women who support her, excuse her weird and bizarre demeanor, as the result of her having to be a woman in a man’s world, as if the stresses of that contort her into her appearance.

    I would say to these women, that if she is so twisted by the pressure as to become a monster, then she is not suited for the job. But Team Woman you go girl!

  85. “Trump roasting Hillary” …

    Roasting is the wrong word, as it implies some camraderie . He skins her alive.

    Huffington Post just linked to the same Trump video you posted with some headline like “Donald Trump making himself into a jacka*ss at dinner event.

  86. Maria Bartiromo in the back there — looking very hot — looked like she was ready to take The Don home and give him whatever he wanted.

    I liked how Trump’s jokes weren’t even jokes. They were simple truths that none but he would dare utter.

  87. Agnostic (blogger in my sidebar) has been doing first rate analysis of the election. He has a post up this morning about Trump at last night’s event.

  88. “Yesterday the front page of the Star and Tribune was a montage of Trump and Clinton at the debate, and wouldn’t you know it, the selected pictures of Trump were as unflattering as possible and those of Clinton were her best shots.”

    Well, traditionally speaking, newspapers were the one iconic media entity that was allowed to wear its biases on its sleeve because of the partisan editorial policies; i.e., in New York, the Times ALWAYS endorses the democratic nominee, while the Post is guaranteed to go red in their endorsement……. which makes me wonder: is the Trump controversey going to change that pattern? Will the Arizona Republic and the Chicago Tribune, to GOP stalwarts, continue the pattern and endorse “The Don?”

    RE. that ‘Al Smith dinner” last night; over the last few elections, it’s gotten to the point where that event is about the most refreshing and dignifying element of the whole campaign! It’s the only time any genuine candor and necessary de-mythologizing actually takes place.

  89. Curious, Nikcrit: are you inclined to vote for Trump? No need to answer this if you’d rather assert your voter confidentiality.

  90. No, I think we even discussed here in a fairly non-roundabout way a few weeks back.

    As of today, I think i’m going to abstain: I’m really against HRC’s essential planks. For the record, (and probably no big surprise), I’m pretty much your classic All-American middle-class black democrat, having voted blue since ’88. Given my origins and family endowment, not much else was ever really possible.

    Since we’re talking straight up here, I’ll also say that I am blown away by the backing here for “The Don.” I think the man is flawed beyond belief, even though i actually overall line up better with him than her in terms of specific planks, policies and positions (e.g., pro-life, anti-amnesty, anti-transpacific, other trade issues, etc.). The thesis of my Trump diatribe is based in his relationship to his celebrity.

    I look at celebrities as if they were not real people, but rather biologically wired avatars that reflect and convey a real person’s most dangerous qualities. Eventually, such celebrities rea h a state in which they are not even real humans; they are projections, borne of a self-absorption and megalomania that I contend most people cannot comprehend until they encounter it.

    And of this type, Trump is the template.

    I think many here know as much; I’m sorry if it sounds condescending, but I think blue-pill resentment is so deep, HRC disgust so absolute, that people are discarding what’s evident just to register their dissent.

    But when Trump does something so completely contrary to red-pill ethos to sate his celebrity pathos, the cog-dis he creates amongst his disgruntled protest-vote constituency will be culture transforming…

    And FWIW re. sub_elk and his Trump fealty; (IDK, I don’t think you have any reason to lie or mislead, but something about your Trump allegiance and HRC disdain seems affected and insincere to me. I don’t know why.

  91. — And of course the great Reagan Revolution — all that promise! — came to naught. (Peterike)

    It surely was a different world then. I was 14’ish when he ran against Mondale and I frequently talked with an adult hippie neighbor at that time. A thoughtful, very intelligent and good-natured man with the tye-dye 60s relic look and long hair. The type that a bright teenager like myself then enjoys conversations with.

    I remember his explanations behind his support for the Democratic Party, which boiled down to a smarter stewardship of the country.

    He represented the “blue” half of the nation in Reagan’s time. It was still a nation, in which people differed on issues but both sides meant one another well; at least so far as ordinary Americans went.

    There was a sense of legitimacy, which is now gone. Camlost summarized the Obama terms as the unmasking of the system’s anti -White globalist face.

    Lawrence Auster struggled with the undeniable liberalism of the average person and took Obama’s reelection very hard. Something he wrote repeatedly is that for things to change, Americans are going to have to feel the pain. We’re there now.

  92. the unmasking of the system’s anti -White globalist face.

    Even if Trump loses, his particular platform and personality were of paramount importance at this particular moment in time because of how much he forces the epicenter of liberalism to move even further left and core Americans can now clearly see how this is not their country any more.

    Cruz, Romney, Rubio, McCain etc. could never accomplish that. They’re either too deluded, too nice, too stupid, too unelectable or too complicit in the whole process.

  93. “I look at celebrities as if they were not real people, but rather biologically wired avatars that reflect and convey a real person’s most dangerous qualities. Eventually, such celebrities rea h a state in which they are not even real humans; they are projections, borne of a self-absorption and megalomania that I contend most people cannot comprehend until they encounter it. And of this type, Trump is the template.”

    That’s a reasonable description, yet it applies far more to Hillary then to Trump. I believe Trump has a genuine connection to “regular people” and wants to make America great again for their sakes. Hillary simply despises the people. And I don’t think there’s a more self-absorbed person on earth than Her Highness.

    “But when Trump does something so completely contrary to red-pill ethos to sate his celebrity pathos”

    Maybe, but I, for one, am willing to cut Trump an awful lot of slack as long as he accomplishes shutting off the influx of invaders. Better trade policies would be nice too (I’d like to see him go full bore protectionist, but I doubt it). But in the end, THE ONLY ISSUE is the immivasion. It will ruin America utterly if not stopped. Hillary will actively accelerate it — Obama being too lazy to take much action beyond doing nothing to stop it — so the problem will intensify greatly under her regime.

    And all this “worry” about what Trump might do! Like WHAT, exactly? Start a war? Delusional liberals seem to be pushing this theme — don’t give Trump the button! But you have to have no connection to reality whatsoever to think Trump is the bigger threat than Hillary in this regard.

    I’m actually curious. What terrible thing “might” Trump do?

  94. “I remember his explanations behind his support for the Democratic Party, which boiled down to a smarter stewardship of the country.”

    Indeed. There was a time when the Democrats were, at least at the local level, the party of the “working man” as we used to say. At the national level they’ve been infested by Jews and traitors since FDRs time. But still, they often had the working man in mind.

    But this has been over for decades, and the Dems are purely the party of the ultra-rich and the riff-raff (the high/low attack on the middle). Yet there are Americans of a certain age who will NEVER shake off the “Democrats are for the little guy, Republicans for the rich” mentality. It’s seared — seared!! — in their minds and no pile of facts (hey, check out the donor data!) will change their thinking.

  95. “Maybe, but I, for one, am willing to cut Trump an awful lot of slack as long as he accomplishes shutting off the influx of invaders. Better trade policies would be nice too”

    Yeah, perhaps this passage of yours really cuts to the essence of it; so much MORE good could emanate from accomplishing JUST THAT one border goal. And considering how fucked up things are, that perhaps is the most pragmatic course: to create some sort of ‘trickle-down’ red-pill reform stunt.

    It’s going to be a real bitch though, considering the fact that the country is now 18% Hispanic; in less sober moments, I sometimes think that the key is that x-amount of Hispanics are actually quite against amnesty and illegal immigration. Yet who knows what the consensus will be once Dems get ahold of the mythology and start spending money on ‘re-shaping’ said consensus.

    It’s tough, but in many ways you’re right: it’s all for naught if the U.S. census keeps heading in the direction that it has been going for the last twenty years.

  96. I don’t see any of the banality or celeb fakeness in Trump. He took up a huge cross, which he didn’t have to do. He is 70 and has earned his right to golfing all day. Instead he has subjected himself and his family to the most vicious attacks, which not even Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin had been dealt. His and his family’s physical security has become an issue. (Btw, Hillary’s “praise” of Trump’s family at the close of the second debate was one of the most bone chilling things I’ve ever heard someone say.)

    There has not been a more genuie and effective figure in American public life in at least a lifetime.

  97. it’s all for naught if the U.S. census keeps heading in the direction that it has been going for the last twenty years.

    It won’t. All that Americans need to accept is that the millions of junk-hominids that had been shipped into this country need to be gone. Step one: recognize that their presence here is illegitimate. Step two: resolve to act. Step three: make it happen, by any means necessary.

  98. “There has not been a more genuie and effective figure in American public life in at least a lifetime.”

    That’s weird to me, you saying that. I think of what I imagine to be your scruples and values and I cannot reconcile that with the above statement. At all.

    And I was hesitant to go into that “you must just hate HRC that much to get behind ‘The Don'” riff, because, as I’ve said, I really don’t respect the practice of amateur mind-reading. But I just cannot believe you don’t see what I see through even cursory examination of Trump and his interactions with the public and the press.

    It’s interesting; it’s perplexing.

  99. but something about your Trump allegiance and HRC disdain seems affected and insincere to me. I don’t know why — Trickin, master discerner of motives … in his own mind!

    I write for effect, to get a reaction out of people. You know that by now.

    But no, nothing in my contempt for HRC is insincere, and nor is my support of Trump. As i said before, i registered to vote for the first time since 2004, and i might go down City Hall and cast my ballot later today. So take that.

    Trickin’s questioning of my fealty to Trump (and by extension the AR) i regard as fishing for allies. Drop your line elsewhere, old chum.

  100. Cruz, Romney, Rubio, McCain etc. could never accomplish that. They’re either too deluded, too nice, too stupid, too unelectable or too complicit in the whole process.

    Not to mention too gay.

  101. elk,
    I didn’t qualify my statement enough: I’m not accusing you of being deceptive and I admit I have no ‘proof’ or even subjective ‘evidence;’ just saying that’s the way your fealty sits with me.

    I”m owed no explanation.

    Yet I think the “I write for effect, to get a reaction out of people,” explanation works for me.

  102. What a lot of Democrats don’t understand is that we see everything Donald Trump is saying and doing and we are letting out a big collective yawn. We know it’s less than ideal and that Trump should’ve been watching his soundbites for the last 40 years if he wanted to be in politics later…… but so fu**ing what.

    We don’t care that he’s given his contractors a hard time. We don’t care that he told some fat latina lunatic slut that she’s overweight. We don’t care that he can’t seem to let go of small slights that wouldn’t bother most normal white men in the least.

    What’s most hilarious is all of the black athletes suddenly becoming holier-than-thou when interviewed by liberal MSM publications for their reaction to Trump for his “pus*sygrab” as locker-room talk comment. You can tell that SWPL whites have spent ZERO time around rank-and-file black people and listened to how they talk, or what sorts of music their children are regurgitating daily. It’s bizarro world.

  103. “There has not been a more genuine and effective figure in American public life in at least a lifetime.”

    Totally correct. He has simply bulled through all the fake walls of “you can’t say that!” put up by the (((media))) and academia and totally enforced by Dems and the GOPe cuckstablishment. And those walls were strangling white people.

    It reminds me of that big battle scene from Game of Thrones, where Jon Snow and his boys were surrounded, the forces of evil steadily crushing the life out of them. THIS has been America for decades now, with whites in the center. And ONE MAN and ONLY one man who had the means to stand up chose to do so, and that’s Trump. Sure, there has been an alt-right commentariat all along, and a burgeoning guerrilla movement, but nobody in a position of celebrity and wealth was willing to take up the cudgels and fight the establishment. Nobody. Nobody in fifty years, in a nation of 200+ million white people.

    Trump is a hero, full stop.

  104. — that big battle scene from Game of Thrones, where Jon Snow and his boys were surrounded, the forces of evil steadily crushing the life out of them. THIS has been America for decades now, with whites in the center”

    Like Lt. Gen. “Chesty” Puller told his Marines when surrounded by ten Chinese divisions at Yalu River: “The poor bastards. They’ve got us right where we want them. We can fire in any direction now!”

  105. “There has not been a more genuine and effective figure in American public life in at least a lifetime.”

    And he maybe became a martyr if he loses.

    A lot of White Americans are seeing the treatment he’s getting from 10 year-old comments or statements that he could’ve phrased a little less roughly, but which really aren’t hurting anybody.

    Meanwhile the Democratic party has Michael Brown’s mother on stage like she’s some sort of heroine, glosses over actual violence from immigrants, puts forth a fantastically wealthy candidate with the nerve to lecture whites on their “privilege” or commissions all sorts of foul-mouthed rappers to perform at official events. On election day I guess we’ll see if lots of moderate/conservative whites take that as a personal insult.

  106. Nikcrit reminds me of the liberals in my life who just can’t understand how anyone can like Donald Trump. I do genuinely like him, even though I admit he is quite flawed. They also couldn’t understand why I was not more upset by his “grab her pussy” comment. I said the comment was crude and stupid, but he was ashamed of it and apologized. As far as I am concerned, that is the end of it.
    I really think liberals and conservatives like and dislike different types of people.
    I understand men have to put on a certain bravado to get anywhere in life. It’s a bit of an act at times, but it doesn’t make him a bad person.

  107. “We don’t care that he’s given his contractors a hard time. We don’t care that he told some fat latina lunatic slut that she’s overweight. We don’t care that he can’t seem to let go of small slights that wouldn’t bother most normal white men in the leas”

    I don’t care about that either. No, listen to me clearly: I’m no moral scold, and I’m certainly not tearing down Trump for the sake of building up HRC; I don’t even necessarily dislike Trump; I just don’t romanticize him and his strength and weaknesses —– to me, he’s an interesting psycho megalomaniac……………

    And I don’t relish some sort-of comeuppance for Trump backers, as some seem to be implying of my comments: it’s just that I see his support as being basically that of ‘protest-vote’ substance; i.e., not so muich ‘for Trump’ but everything to do with being “Anti-HRC” as well as liking Trump INCIDENTALS; i.e., unapologetically anti-p.c. and proudly once again a libidinous white male with a ripe vanity and ego, etc.

    Incidentally, I too think those are good qualities he’s bringing to msm zeitgeist via this campaign; he’s commencing the post-p.c. DE-depussification of the American white male.

    My real qualm with Trump is based on things gleaned during my last career: celebrities are dark figures; not just via honest analysis of their public portrayals. Remember, celebrity has a largely unexamined darkskide that runs Monday through Friday, 9am to 5 p.m.; ask his PR flaks and publicists and other behind-the-scenes figures what Trump ‘is really like’ TEN YEARS FROM NOW, when there’s no personal calculus involved in answering such questions honestly.

    My suspicions —- no, outright cyncism —– toward Trump is based on his narcissistic egomania and the fact that he’s a celebrity (and a rather manic one at that); in fact, I don’t think he’d necessarily deny what i’m saying about him and none of his supporters need be turned off by that quality if they don’t want to be.

    So no, Lara, I understand why someone could be enthralled by Trump; I just don’t share the feeling. Ditto to Cam.

    But prepare for some heavy cog-dis when Trump does something very symbolically contrary to all the secondary association that’s been heaped upon him by a long-suffering and denied American paleo-con constituency. it’s your right and all that, but that one is going to sting big time!.

  108. reminds me of the liberals in my life who just can’t understand how anyone can like Donald Trump.

    There’s also an element of what you need and expect from a candidate. Political correctness is the new religion for liberals so they want someone polished, soundbite-friendly and smartly packaged on every single issue, and they want to form a messianic cult of personality around them based on saying “we can do it!!” and other such stupidity many times over. Conservatives don’t need to worship politicians as their all and everything, so they could care less about a few inconsequential personality quirks or flaws.

    And since blacks look to the government for all of their hope and deliverance, they’re especially driving this phenomenon on the left.

  109. Someone I know recently went to hear Ehud Barak (former prime minister of Israel) speak. An audience member asked for whom should he vote in the coming election. Ehud Barak said that’s for you to decide, I’m not an American. He said Israelis will work with whoever is in office. He also said Putin is a good leader.

  110. I don’t want a celebrity president, but regular people don’t just run for president. If the press would ease up on Trump a little, his supporters would probably criticize him more.

  111. “And Italy only allows a grand total of 8 mosques. The UK and France have over 2,000 each. Italy blocks the building of Mosques and does not officially recognize Islam as a religion, cutting off access to public funding, finance channels and building of religious-oriented schools.

    Expulsion could be on the table for Muslims in Italy.

    That’s owing to the power of the Vatican. However, they can exert power only behind the scenes now.
    Meaning that in public they have to be pro-immigration, pro-“refugees”. And nobody, nobody from any political party will dare speak of “expulsion”, lest they be immediately pilloried as backward fascists.

    The Ministry of Family launched a campaign to persuade women to make more babies and was mostly shamed — and it was a so-called left-wing ministry of the so-called left-wing party.

  112. @peterike

    That’s where it really hits you. When you see pictures of school classes, and they are far and away majority non-white, even in white areas. That’s our future.

    As long as it were high-IQ people, without tribal supremacist obsession tinged with anti-White schizophrenia, they’d be welcome as far as I were concerned, and only enhance the country’s well faring.

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