Is My Critique of Anti-White America Illegitimate?

This objection to my writing is not unreasonable and I’ll respond to it:

Also, I’m getting very irritated at the idea of people coming from 99% white countries to America, which was never a monocultural country, and getting more and more radical about how non-whites have to leave America or be partitioned off.

There is a multicultural cast of foreign-born dissidents and overall political soothsayers who leave monoracial lands only to come here and make a living out of complaining about what they CHOSE to surround themselves with.

The rebuke comes from a U.S.-born reader who disagrees with my AltRight-aligned writing on race in the United States. I am of Eastern European origin, having arrived here in my early teens more than three decades ago and a U.S. citizen for over the past twenty five years.

My response to the criticism: I understand his irritation but racial liberalism isn’t America’s internal matter. I wish that were the case! If America wanted to keep her Social Justice / Black Power dictatorship to within her borders, it’d be easy enough for those of us with origins elsewhere to get out, good riddance. North Korea’s ant hive Juche is not my idea of sane politics but I don’t concern myself with it because it is quarantined to that one state.

But America is not a country defined by its borders anymore, which are inwardly porous and ideologically incontinent. America has become a global empire with 60 military bases in Europe alone, now with escalating NATO activities. Her leaders not only act with malice toward their own people, but they also drive the destruction of Western nations abroad. U.S. foreign policy is an extension of her domestic social engineering, delivering the murder of South Africa and the push for the kalergization of Western Europe.

And now closer to my ancestral home, I’m seeing daily newsfeeds of American media’s anti-Polish and anti-Hungarian propaganda, no doubt the tip of the iceberg regarding the pressure that is put on those countries to open themselves to mass immigration. I will never forget my shock of watching the 1999 U.S.-led bombing of Serbia that deliberately targeted civilians, so now I regard media narratives that aim at whipping up moral outrage with small European nations very seriously.

What I am saying is, I can’t in good conscience stay here quietly and I also can’t just leave, literally or metaphorically. If not brought back to sanity, liberal America will endeavor to destroy all of us here and she will follow me to the ends of the Earth if I run. Therefore I have no choice but to turn around and face her. And that is exactly what I am doing here, writing on this blog under our Constitutional protection of free expression and redress of grievances.

Under the identitarian definition of nationality, rather than the legal one as reflected by my U.S. passport, I am not an American. I also understand that the bonds of blood are stronger than opportunism and paperwork. But over the thirty years of my life in the United States, which includes Army service and the fact that my closest friendships are with Americans, I have developed something deeper than fondness for this country.

Dulce et decorum est, as I wrote with absolute sincerity in Shots of Wisdom, Part 3. Solzhenitsyn hated the Soviet Union but he always loved Russia. Liberal America is as dangerous to her own people as she is to our common civilization.

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159 thoughts on “Is My Critique of Anti-White America Illegitimate?

  1. “Solzhenitsyn hated the Soviet Union but he always loved Russia.”

    So, from that fact I’d bet he didn’t wish for limited voting, domestic and legal rights for certain kinds of those naturally born Russisn volk that he championed.

    FWIW, that what galls me in particular; when a foreign-born white comes here and waxes all militantly about how America should reinstate civil and legal segregation against blacks —— which, btw, goes against those valued Alt-Right 14 points that you guys cherish and salute.

    So, yeah, it’s a personal gripe. And beyond that, your civic knowledge of your adopted homeland is commendable.

    Once again, speaking of Solzenhenitsyn, I cannot reccomend to you enough David Remnick’s two books about Glasnost, “Ressurection” and ” “Lenin’s Tomb.”

  2. That was a strong one.

    “I will never forget my shock of watching the 1999 U.S.-led bombing of Serbia that deliberately targeted civilians, ”

    Neither will I. It was a turning point. I was in London at the time and approached the Serbian government. Of course I was turned down. Instead I wrote press releases and articles. I would dearly have loved to target imperial interests from behind enemy lines.

    I have more in common with someone like PA than I do with Africans whose ancestors, like mine,, have been on this continent since the beginning.

  3. “I have more in common with someone like PA than I do with Africans whose ancestors, like mine,, have been on this continent since the beginning.”

    yes, but you MIGHT not if, from day-one, you were around and interacted with said Africans, in whatever specific form you meant. Your and PA’s racial fealty isn’t some universal absolute, though it is for you two (which is fine IMO, even though you don’t need to hear it from me, as i only do as much for the sake of clarifying my point).

    And for people like me, such cross-racial interaction would perhaps REQUIRE me to interact with both whites and blacks, or at least require me to do as much to have the kind of communion you seem to be suggesting among whites-vs-blacks, etc.

    Maybe it’s a byproduct of being mixed and noticing certain things —— or maybe it’s just a conceit, me thinking that I notice more: but it’s easy for me to see that what often is considered a ‘biological truth’ about race is little more than one imposing their personal experience on the world writ large.

  4. I applaud your good manners in striving to *improve* your new home rather than looting it. The US was founded explicitly as a white country. Yeah, we had a limited variety of white people. That’s diversity enough. We didn’t need the Italians or the Irish or the Chinese; adding Somalis and Syrians is flatly insane.

    Full disclosure, I’m half Irish. Facts are facts.

  5. I doubt it. I have an intense racial feeling for my own, which I was aware of even as a little boy of 6 or 7. My old school Republican parents, from what I recall, were not racialists and had little to no influence upon my views in this regard. I picked it up from being extremely curious about the world and from noticing. Travelling the world from an early age also no doubt played a part.

    I can’t imagine what being mixed feels like. Belonging is such a primal need.

  6. I consider Poles my brothers. One of my best friends around the age of 7 to 12 was a Polish boy named Jack, He had platinum blond hair, like mine, which the girls loved, and was an exceptional football (soccer) player. We lost touch when my family moved away. I’ve been told there’s a large Polish community in nearby Huntington Beach.

  7. There was also a large Polish chap who was part of our local Alt-Right / WN circle (some of whom you would recognise by name) several years ago. He was very successful and worked in corporate finance. He moved to LA.

  8. “I’m half Irish. Facts are facts.”

    I’ve got some Irish in me. Conciliators in sober thought, no-bullshit instigators in action. This is somewhat tragic, and why quality stout and race-real discussion is healthy and obligatory for me. I’m glad I’m mostly German.

  9. I lack that individualism that is so prized by the Anglos and their lackeys.

    At the same time, because of my disposition, I am largely forced to live as an individualist.

    I’m aware that I’ve been living in contradiction to my nature.

    This can’t be good.

  10. FWIW, that what galls me in particular; when a foreign-born white comes here and waxes all militantly about how America should reinstate civil and legal segregation against blacks

    I don’t support active segregation at all, it’s too expensive to maintain in the public sphere, anyway. But your constant, nagging fear that it’s even in the realm of possibilities is a little irrational, don’tcha think?

    The WN’s in the USA don’t even have enough control over government to be able to expel the known ISIS sympathizers the FBI is currently tracking, or the 20 million who’ve walked or swam across the border illegally. And if the USA still had the same demographics as in 1981 I wouldn’t be worried about the country’s future very much at all, myself.

    There was a recent article by the Cato Institute that the immigration policy difference between 8 years of Trump and 8 years of Hillary could be as much as 40 million new immigrants over the next 100 years.

  11. I don’t necessarily feel more kinship with Europeans than I do with African Americans. It just depends on the person. I like people who positively contribute to the society in which they live. Many African Americans take more than they give back, unfortunately.

  12. I don’t necessarily feel more kinship with Europeans than I do with African Americans.

    You do but just don’t know it yet since the need for trust hasn’t yet arisen. If you purchased one of 10 houses on a cul-de-sac you’d choose 9 fresh off the boat Europeans for neighbors over 9 AA families 100% of the time, without even so much as an afterthought.

    kinship = trust

  13. Serbia was turning point for me too. It’s the only actual racist war the USA ever launched, i.e. the only war in which the determinant factor of our involvement was the race and religion of the “enemy.” If the Serbs weren’t white Christians, the Cathedral-Synagogue would never have touched them.

  14. Trump criticized the Serbian campaign in 1999. I don’t know that I’ve actually met anyone that I know to be Serbian, but I really like them after seeing the massive greeting they gave Joe Biden in his visit to Serbia this summer:

  15. Explain to me what the problem with the Irish is supposed to be. They weren’t historically a large factor here in Canada.

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  17. “I can’t imagine what being mixed feels like. Belonging is such a primal need.”

    I don’t know: i’ve felt the alienation at times in my life, when a young kid: at times, I felt I ‘belong’ to both whites and blacks, and I also felt kinship with others of mixed blood, particularly if that blood was white and black. Furthermore, I may or may not have, depending on the time, felt degrees of kinship with mixed kids; i.e., those with a skin tone closer to mine, etc.

    Is that contentment? How could I know for sure, because what else have I ever known..

    Maybe God’s mercy works that way: I can never realliy know specifically what I may be missing; meanwhie, I may even think I’m lucky in that I have genetic connection to both.

    I mean, question to all you white people out there: do you get that special caucasian tingle inside everytime you pass a white person on the street?

  18. “Going to Oktoberfest today.”

    actually, that’s a big deal here in my neck of the U.S. of A. I went a week or so ago; that’s sort of funny. When I was a kid, I lived near the big german restaurant and field grounds bythe river where they held.

    It was part of my halfrican tradition; to this day, i still love German beer (except for it what it can do to my gut) lolzz

  19. — do you get that special caucasian tingle inside everytime you pass a white person on the street?

    I don’t know about “tingle” but yes, once we stop taking our White habitats for granted. Nature afflicted humanity with the “don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone” behavior. It’s not just the affirming response to seeing a fellow White, it’s also a guard dog wariness when seeing a non-White here we don’t expect him when the visitor is not on his best guest-like behavior.

  20. do you get that special caucasian tingle inside everytime you pass a white person on the street?

    If it’s an obvious shitlord or cute woman, I up-nod and say “hey” or something.

    If it’s some nerdy SJW trying to look trendy, I stifle an urge to hit him in the face.

  21. I was thinking about this too, because I am a first generation EE immigrant with military service (2 Afghanistan deployments with infantry Marines). I agree with your basic claim that I would rather be in the belly of the beast. Liberals and their colored pets will follow and try to beat down the Caucasian peoples anywhere we live, much in the same way Arabs try to beat down Jews in tiny little Israel. Inferior people hate hate hate superior people everywhere, all the time.

    Furthermore, I am greatly annoyed at my fellow Ukrainians blind tribalism against our Russian brothers. Russia is our big brother, sometimes he beats you up, but he’s still our big brother. It seems to me Ukrainians would rather be an EU/US puppet than a Russian puppet. They’re making a deal with the devil because eventually the EU/US will look at a white city like Kiev and decide they need homo parades, feminism, and of course Arab/African mass invasion. Then my homeland can also have race riots, crime and terrorism. This is why I am opposed to the existence of the US as a country. It cannot be saved from itself, I only wish to save my people from it.

  22. The first law of the Narrative…

    Keep everyone and everything INSIDE the Narrative…

    Allow nothing and no one to SEGREGATE from the Narrative…

    And then use a global mob of degenerates to enforce this TOTAL INTEGRATION within the Narrative…

    By feeding them a smorgasbord of acts of pleasurable self-annihilation..

    Relativism without Absolute is like turd without butthole. You get all the shit and don’t know where it is coming from.

    THE ABILITY TO SEGREGATE is the ability to see the Narrative for what it actually is.

    So voluntary segregation is the “crime” and the neat trick is the inversion of the frame. Exclusion where it is more like reclusion… So now it’s ALL OUT intrusion.

    IF YOU CANNOT voluntary segregate from a forced integration THEN you RIP RIGHT THROUGH IT and tear its fugging guts out.

  23. LBF: I laughed at your line about the nerdy SJW.

    Anonymous Bro: I see some of that in Poland too but without claiming to have a solid finger on the pulse of public opinion, Russophobia appears to be more common with much older people. With regards to US/EU, typical comments threads under Polish-language articles run 10% SJW to 90% Awake. SJW attitudes seem to be largely animated by shame or sense of inferiority for being born in a provincial country, with liberal posturing as an overcompensation.

    Thordaddy: no joke, Genesis 1:4 flashed before my eyes when I read your comment.

  24. Those who are pathologically deracinated are self-annihilators…

    All knowledge flows through the (F)ather.

    Anti-racism is hatred for the (f)ather at the individual level AUTOMATICALLY taking indiscriminate collective “form.”

    Its memetic mauler of minds is “racism” equals “white supremacy.”

    And it finds SUPER MAJORITY CONSENSUS across the entire political “spectrum” in a “fealty” to a lord less anti-white Supremacy

  25. The great irony is that “radical autonomy” DEFIES critique BY “defInition.”

    It’s analogous to a “mother” who, in executing a “fundamental right,” has exercised the GOOD in killing her future, high IQ, alt-rite “white” son…

    High IQ “white” alt-riter CANNOT DEFY THE ABOVE.

    So “we” get this neat trick where a “critique” is given credence EVEN THOUGH the “critiquer” doesn’t just attempt to defy (c)ritique himself, he oh-so-subtly argues against any and all (C)ritique RELATIVE to objective Supremacy, ie., Perfection.

  26. The Poland-Russia rivalry is very old and Poland was often allied with Lithuania during the height of its political power. The Ukraine has been partitioned, controlled or colonized by many neighboring countries for a long time, some speculate that the Euro “genetic cocktail” factor is why Eastern European women are generally considered more attractive on average than women on insular Britain.

    In times of war Europe would often be characterized by uprisings where locals with long-simmering anger would rise up against often wealthy colonizers or merchants with roots in some other area in Europe. During WWII there were Ukrainian nationalists who massacred settlers from Russia and Poland while also fighting against the German incursion.

  27. Nikcrit
    Read this
    Neat trick
    Your (C)ritique
    “Ain’t wurf sheeeet!”
    I’m not dog whistling
    Intellectually legit
    Jew are a self-annihilator
    Which memes
    You slit
    Your own voice
    To choose
    A choice
    To stand with anti-Supremacy
    The (C)ritique
    That puts jew at infancy
    Infinitely
    Degenerating
    Yet still perpeuating
    By means of parasiting
    Passing off (c)ritique
    So indignantly undigifying…
    Jew must be (L)ying.

  28. No PA…

    Nikcrit HAS NO (C)ritique THAT IS LEGIT…

    Edit:

    thordaddy | October 2, 2016 at 4:43 pm
    Nikcrit
    Read this
    Neat trick
    Your (C)ritique
    “Ain’t wurf sheeeet!”
    I’m not dog whistling
    Intellectually legit
    Jew are a self-annihilator
    Which memes
    You slit
    Your own voice
    To choose
    A choice
    To stand with anti-Supremacy
    The (C)ritique
    That puts jew at infancy
    Infinitely
    Degenerating
    Yet still perpetuating
    By means of parasiting
    Passing off (c)ritique
    So indignantly undignifying…
    Jew must be (L)ying.

  29. — some speculate that the Euro “genetic cocktail” factor is why Eastern European women are generally considered more attractive on average than women on insular Britain

    I’d dispute the premise that Eastern European women are genetically more attractive than other Euro women. More likely, the modernism-lag of being behind the Iron Curtain kept Western-style feminism and obesity at bay. I also think that genetic cocktail theories are overstated because something like 99% of pre-modern Eastern Europeans were insular peasants who rarely mingled with other ethnicities even in multiethnic environs.

  30. PA…

    There is a case to be made that Nikcrit HAS FORCED YOU INTO A “radical autonomy” thereby maximizing his autonomy by minimizing yours AS you have given retort TO AN ILLEGITIMATE (c)ritique BY a known radical autonomist.

    Essentially, you continue to play on Nikcrit’s “field” and by his “rules.”

  31. I’d dispute the premise that Eastern European women are genetically more attractive than other Euro women.

    I guess it’s partly opinion, but I sure do see tiny Czech and Hungary, along with mid-sized Poland and Ukraine, churning out a much larger number of absolutely stunning models and tennis players per capita compared to Britain & France with population over 70 million each. But I don’t claim any scientific knowledge here, just my anecdotal eye test.

  32. Lare,

    Why do you think i’m trolling? Seriously, I don’t know why you would say that. I’ve commented under my usual handle only; i fact, i’ve never commented under any other avatar than nikcrit, in any thread to date.

  33. You asked us if we get a tingle when we see another white person, when you know we don’t. It is your race who always seem to know each other even when there is no clear relationship.

  34. “You asked us if we get a tingle when we see another white person, when you know we don’t. It is your race who always seem to know each other even when there is no clear relationship.”

    Right. I was being rhetorical and slightly sarcastic; i.e., I know whites usually don’t publicly revel in their shared race when no other race is around —– and right before i saw your latest comment i was about to add one that acknowledges that, ironically, it’s blacks who maintain a bit of ‘fellow-‘bro’ camaraderie on the street, a reflexive ritual that i maintain to this day (y’know, the ever-so-slight head nod as you pass by each other on the street, alongside a mumbled ‘hey’brah.’; I mean, i must do that a dozen-plus times a day when in certain schools, and i think it’s just ritualistic habit, not a harbinger of my racial politics or clandestine racial agendas to come.

    However, I could see PA feeling or doing a similar bonding gesture with whites; LBF outright says he does.

    FWIW, I got no problem with folk bonding among race or ethnicity, though the latter makes more sense to me and probably leads to fewer misunderstandings; i feel i indulge in black-gesture and cultural communion going by the kind of rituals and singing we do at my dad’s church, which has at most two or three white congregants.

    I’m not against ethnic bonding; it’s ethnic cleansing of the Bosnian kind that gets my goat. That is why i cringed at PA’s use of the term in his post points, i believe in the ‘recognize each other’ post earlier; his explanation meant mere ethnic communities via convenants; but you can’t use the term ‘ethnic cleansing’ post-Bosnia without implying something much more sinister, IMO

  35. In the previous post I used “ethnic cleansing” to mean what’s been happening to Whites first with desegregation and then with aggressive HUD policies.

    “Ethnic rebalancing” is what we’ll call its reversal post-liberalism.

  36. The other day I was sitting at my writing desk in front of the window. There’s a big Indian laurel tree right outside it. Suddenly I noticed some movement in the tree and a cacophony of loud squawking as several crows landed in the branches, in the middle of which sat a medium-sized hawk or falcon. The black birds were clearly harassing it and trying to remove it from the area. They succeeded, as the raptor soon flew off. I’ve also seen crows do this with bobcats. Fucking crows.

    I couldn’t help but think this was a metaphor for something.

  37. Some chick just sent me an email in response to a brief comment I made n a RamZPaul post (‘Why don’t White Men like White Women?’) from February 16, 2015. My comment apparently provoked some irritation:

    Hi Laguna Beach Fogey,

    I recently saw your response on why white American men prefer Asian women to white American women and was interested by both the content and the clear, articulate manner in which it was expressed. (I apologize for responding so late after it was published but I just came across it).

    As a white American woman, I was especially intrigued by your description of us as “fat” “b—-es”and “entitled princesses”. I try in my own small way not to be like that. I work out every day and weigh 120 lb. I am training for a job in the STEM field. I have had a total of 1 sexual partner, never swear in public, treat my man well, and keep a clean house. I believe in divorce only in case of cheating, physical abuse, or failure to provide. It sounds like you’ve had some really bad experiences with white American women. On behalf of all white American women I’m really sorry about that; please realize we’re not all like that. In fact, I’d like to request that maybe you could modify your post slightly to read “some white American women” or “a lot of white American women I know”?

    I’m not asking you to apologize publicly to me or to anyone else. I’m not asking you to retract any of your opinions because I believe in free speech, even if it’s offensive to some. All I’d like you to do is to insert the qualifier “some” into your post i.e. “Some white American women”. It would mean so much to me if such an influential poster as yourself would acknowledge that are still some decent WAW out there.

    Respectfully yours,

    Shattered Flowers

  38. If white women desired genuine wS then the “problem” of hypergamy would no such thing. As it stands, “white” anti-wS are at the “top” thus rendering hypergamy pathological.

  39. I don’t agree that EE women are more genetically attractive than other white women. EE women will put more effort into their looks because they’re 30 years or so behind the west culturally, that’s the only reason why they look better on average.

  40. I don’t get the impression young Russian and Ukrainian women work regular jobs. They seem to view attracting rich men as a full time job, so it makes sense they are going to look good. There are some American women who are like that, but not as many.

  41. — I sure do see tiny Czech and Hungary, along with mid-sized Poland and Ukraine, churning out a much larger number of absolutely stunning models and tennis players per capita compared to Britain & France with population over 70 million each.

    As to tennis and other talent, the USSR and EE countries like Poland (one I’m most familiar with) invested heavily in finding and cultivating talent in areas that don’t necessarily translate to practical or money-making endeavors. A lot of people don’t realize this, but the quality of education was at an extremely high level behind the Iron Curtain. Again, in times and places I am familiar with. For example, some of the most beautiful illustrations I’ve seen in books came from 80s era Polish publishing houses. As another example, if a Russian student demonstrated exceptional talent for the cello, he’d be noticed, evaluated for the depth of his ability, and extensively trained to be a world-class cellist at the Bolshoi. But an American student with the same talent would pursue a more practical course of education.

    One of the great tragedies that came with the fall of Communism — in retrospect, it is apparent that its collapse was a bigger and bigger disaster, as the years fade back — was that the entire state infrastructure that geared talented people toward their careers, disappeared overnight. And so you had first chair Russian symphony violinists playing for tips at Warsaw or Berlin train stations.

    At to EE women’s beauty, this was the post-Communist world: all young women were, like was said above, 30 years behind the West culturally. All were naturally thin and feminine, as all Western women had always been, absent the last few decades’ liberal US-driven cultural aberration. So with the fall of Communism, the vast majority of those girls worked normal jobs, married normal men, had normal families, like many of my cousins (I come from a large extended family) and other people I grew up with. But there were also girls with ambitions, who flocked to various Western or domestic modelling agencies, scouting events, hostess or greeter jobs where they’d be noticed, and many were noticed. (Many ended up in brothels but that is another side-effect of Reagan’s “triumph.”)

    Eastern Europe also had a younger average age than Western Europe, so it literally, in those giddy early 90s, was a fresh infusion of life and vitality to the White West. But Slavic women are not more or less beautiful that Nordic, French, what will you women. Even English women can be beautiful, with Kate Middleton representing a fetching kind of English beauty. In my parent’s generation, American women were renowned for their beauty, with Farrah Fawcett being huge 70s icon behind the Iron Curtain. In the 80s, we (now in America) stereotyped Swedish women as apex beauties, probably because of other pop-culture clichés of the time.

  42. kinship = trust (Camlost)

    That sums it up. A lot of people make the erroneous assumption that kinship = familiarity.

  43. (Many ended up in brothels but that is another side-effect of Reagan’s “triumph.”)

    About ten years ago, as part of a European-city vacation, i went to Amsterdam, where I met two white American guys; they were sort-of prole entrepreneurs that hit it big, i think via a chain of car-detailing shops that caught on and then were sold for a big payday to these two owners, who were high-school buddies but now in their early-to-mid 30s.

    Anyhow, these two represented that common modern peril: crude prole appetites with the money and testerone-fueled energy to carry their quests out to their inevitably decadent conclusions. I recall talking with these two in the hotel lobby for a hour or so while we used the complimentary laptops to go online (we’re talking circa 2005 or so).

    Anyhow, pretenses aside, these two were continental sex tourists; they were in the big A to check out the red-light district and a few of the more private indulgence palaces —– but they were chagrined and disappointed, and running down to me the ‘fool’s gold’ aspect of Amsterdam’s reputation.

    Apparently, it’s all hype and no delivery, with the girls overly opportunistic (what a surprise, eh?) and the city coasting of its image of Indulgence Central, but in reality at this point little mlore than a tourist hustle for more libidinous travelers, etc.

    Point being, these two went on to elaborate, was that the REAL action now in terms of sex tourism were these literla sex camps, which were located in the former czechoslavakia and Romania and other recently fallen eastern-block locales (PA, correct me if i’m fukin’ up on some of these post-’88 reformed territories). They went on to describe their recent excursion to a Czech ‘sex camp’ in which it was more or less a orgiastic ‘all-inclusive,’ in which, upon admission, you were hosed down and tested for STD’s and then upon passing allowed to indulge yourself with all the female stewards of these camps, who were all tested, ready and willing, in line with their job duties. Customers could have one, main escort, who was sort-of their weeklong main mistress, but were free to indulge each and every passing sexual whim as well.

    I was married at the time, but regardless would never have indulged something like that. I was humored by these guys combination of awe, reverence and car-customization-detailing-like sexual descriptives.

    Very funny; sort-of a working-class New Jersey Caucasian rendition of heaven on earth…

  44. “There is a case to be made that Nikcrit HAS FORCED YOU INTO A “radical autonomy” thereby maximizing his autonomy by minimizing yours AS you have given retort TO AN ILLEGITIMATE (c)ritique BY a known radical autonomist.”

    Thor, you’ve either reached yet a new level of incoherent hubris, or you’ve simply neglected to take your meds this week—— but WTF are you talking about? Your crypticness is increasingly taking on a tone of conspiratorial paranoia?

    Above all, NOBODY KNOWS WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
    Come on home, man. Damn!

    (Consider this an ‘olive branch’ to return to coherence and sanity).

  45. I’ve never heard of these sex camps but if Romania is mentioned, I have a strong suspicion that they would have been largely or entirely staffed by Gypsy women. And when I was in Prague in 2001, I saw gypsies openly soliciting in touristy areas.

    Back in the late 90s, there were lots of the two-story trailer-like structures with signs “Sex Shop” on them in Warsaw and as I understand it, girls from east of Poland’s border worked there, along with third-tier domestic talent. All of those sex shops had disappeared by my subsequent visits.

    When I traveled through Poland last June, I saw something I hadn’t in 15 years: the so-called “tirówki,” or roadside prostitutes who got their business from trans-continental truck drivers whose vehicles have the TIR license sign on their bumpers. Most of them looked like Gypsies, often in blonde wigs or dyed hair.

  46. — i went to Amsterdam, where I met two white American guys; they were sort-of prole entrepreneurs that hit it big, […] Anyhow, these two represented that common modern peril: crude prole appetites with the money and testerone-fueled energy to carry their quests out to their inevitably decadent conclusions. […] Anyhow, pretenses aside, these two were continental sex tourists (Nikcrit)

    Here a distinction needs to be made with regards to my populism, especially as described in “Working Class Heroes.” The type I lionize, whom I called Battery Shop Man has dignity. Those types are quietly proud, and if not quiet (some of my favorite proles have a mouth on them and crude but killer wit) then they are still reined in by an instinctive kind of Christian honor.

    But the one thing I can’t fucking stand is a slob with money.

  47. I’ve got a client who is an older, very unattractive horndog with a whole lot of money. He’s a CTO at a small software company and is married with two kids, but he talks about going to Prague all of the time. The way he describes it, the Sex Tourists in Prague visit places that are similar to the German FKK sauna/Roman gymnasiums type of places, except full prostitution is included and the girls are tested (allegedly) just as Nickrit described.

    He also goes to Panama for the same reason, but drugs and prostitution are effectively legal there. The way he tells it, at any time of year there’s always dozens of American, British or Canadian men there at the same hotel for the same exact reason, they befriend each other on the fly while there and look out for each other.

    He showed me some Websites and Youtube videos for both places.

  48. Nikcrit,
    Those two men were likely virgins if they were that excited. Also, who knows how rich they were, maybe they were spending a month’s salary on one of these women.

  49. I was listening to the radio and thinking about yesterday’s discussion of interracial musicianships, and I realized that the very worst thing in the world is that MJ’s “Black or White” is no longer credible.

    😦

  50. Old men who hire prostitutes lack dignity. I know what thoughts are going on in the mind of the prostitute and it isn’t flattering.

  51. The way he describes it, the Sex Tourists in Prague visit places that are similar to the German FKK sauna/Roman gymnasiums type of places, except full prostitution is included and the girls are tested

    Yeah, I specifically recall these guys citing Prague and giving keywords to websites describing the kind of camps Cam mentioned. I might’ve been overly loose in mentioning some of those ‘eastern-bloc’ locales but Prague was definintely on their list and maybe was the one they kept noting was the ‘real deal’ ——- the ‘real Amsterdam’ or whatever ridiculous superlatives these two came up with.

    And P.A., these guys were mos’ def “slobs with money.” The funniest thing about them was the unintended sense of earnestness they conveyed in describing thoeir horn dog utopia; i could just imagine these guys today: numb, diabetic and impotent from too much food, cocaine and mercenary sexual activity. Two Virgils gone through the follies of the modern Inferno—— sort-of what I imagine Thor is getting it moralistically in his warnings about modern forms of ‘self-annihilation.’

    ———————————————————————————————————————–

    Lara, no, these two characters had money; We were staying at the Golden Tulip, one of the better tourist-level hotels in Amsterdam.. IDK, maybe i was a bit too hard on them. But I got little patience and mercy for men who pay for pussy—– that’s the biggest form of ‘fool’s gold’ out there, IMO.

  52. Those two men were likely virgins if they were that excited.

    Get real Lara. 30-something high-T Americans with money are virgins because they are looking for prostitutes in Europe?

    American men go abroad for prostitutes because American women.

    Old men who hire prostitutes lack dignity. I know what thoughts are going on in the mind of the prostitute and it isn’t flattering.

    Are whatever such thoughts any different than those about their customers in a younger age bracket?

  53. “American men go abroad for prostitutes because American women.”

    That is a one-sided interpretation of things, of course, and i won’t defend it to the death, or anything omega like that.

    Sex-relations in America, are (for the most part) not healthy.

    The problem is not on women — it is systemic.

    And so to apportion half the blame to women and half to men, is also inaccurate. It is this living arrangement where people are unhappy and stressed out. Like panda bears in a zoo, we have a hard time procreating because it is an unnatural environment.

    We are not meant to be slaves to the grind. And not to mention the race conflict that is a part of that.

    **********************

    I don’t agree that it is necessarily undignified to pay for sex. As if oft remarked, you pay for it in one way or another.

    Whether a man brings and maintains his dignity to and through the affair, is up to him.

  54. Older men should have more restraint and dignity than younger men. It triggers my disgust reflex more when I hear of an old man like the one Cam works with. I know older men still have a sex drive, it just seems like they should not let it run their lives. I guess I’m just being judgemental.

  55. “Sex-relations in America, are (for the most part) not healthy.”

    Of all the copulating that went on, this last weekend — in this Great Land of America — how many episodes of penis-in-vagina ejaculation occurred in the last 60 hours?

    A hard number. Ten million? If there are 150 million men, …

    But say it was ten million men, that sounds about right. One in fifteen men had sex this last weekend. (I was not one of them.)

    But of those copulations, how many were between people who had warm feelings and a respectful relation with one another? and how many were some combination of drunken casual careless and mind-numbing?

  56. I think it has more to do with prostitution being legal there than any failings of American women. Law abiding people really do not want to get entangled in U.S. judicial system. It’s not like these men are forming relationships with these prostitutes.

  57. Those two men were likely virgins if they were that excited. Also, who knows how rich they were, maybe they were spending a month’s salary on one of these women.

    No way they were virgins. In the USA almost non one is still a virgin after their early 20’s, and those stereotypical introverted nerds that are still virgins are probably that way because they rarely leave the house or socialize at all. It’s not that hard.

    The whole reason that men do the whole sex tourism thing is the very low cost to get their jollies, plus not having to woo a woman for weeks or months while playing through all the dating games and uncertainties of not knowing if you’re going to taste the fruit, to put it plainly.

    Your lack of understanding of the horndog mind leads me to believe that you got married to a nice wholesome guy. Glad to hear it, lol.

  58. From what I understand, Amsterdam has spent the last few years quietly making moves to severely shrink their Red Light District due to rising crime.

  59. But of those copulations, how many were between people who had warm feelings and a respectful relation with one another?

    The idea that marriage or copulation is about “love” and “respectful feelings” is an extremely recent and purely Western idea.

  60. “I don’t support active segregation at all, it’s too expensive to maintain in the public sphere, anyway. But your constant, nagging fear that it’s even in the realm of possibilities is a little irrational, don’tcha think?”

    Just want to touch on this quickly, because it often comes up in our debates and conversations and it can have a distracting effect if its details aren’t clearly spelled out: No, I don’t think it’s currently in the realm of possibility in a practical sense —– but I oppose it theoretically as well; I impose its immorality while I believe people have the right to PERSONALLY self-segregate. I concede that that alone makes for a certain amount of mandatory integration for those who’d choose to self-segregate. But I feel the greater-good of that personal-choice doctrine of segregation should prevail.

    PA and I often have standoffs in our debates that basically come down to the above; so, yeah, i know segregations not really a threat to practically return anytime soon.. Yet it’s still a sticky debate point.

    It’s also sort of crude and selfish and self-serving: there are millions of people who’d fall inbetween the cracks, as they’re several generations of mixed-race people nowadays, by the very definitions of the pro-and-anti-segregation voices alike.

  61. I personally would prefer to not live under segregation. It’s too restrictive. Steve Sailer referred to segregation laws as “obnoxious” and I agree. That being said, having a European population living in close proximity to an African population is never going to be an easy situation. Truthfully, most white southerners, of that time, probably had more interaction with black people than I do today.

  62. One of my neighbors has two adopted black kids and a Trump sign on her lawn. I wonder if NeverTrumpers consider her a racist or not.

  63. “But the one thing I can’t fucking stand is a slob with money.”

    Neither can I.

    And when you really get down to it, I think therein lies the basis for whatever mutual respect we may hold toward each other, despite are many and easily recognizable differences.

    I’ve also seen an inordinate amount of wealthy slovenliness in my day.

  64. I don’t have the self discipline to handle being rich. I have no desire to be. I never play the lottery because I don’t want to win it.

  65. Older men should have more restraint and dignity than younger men.

    Yes, of course. As I age, there is an idea that I keep in mind of the way an an older gent should behave, modeled in part the English or European gentleman and on the jet-set playboys, the old Hollywood set. If you’ve been raised properly, this idea stays with you. Taki has written about these people over the years in The Speccie. When Gunter Sachs died a few years ago Vanity Affair published a nice tribute:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/05/death-of-a-riviera-playboy-gunter-sachs-departs-the-party

    For it’s a subtle craft, the art of the playboy–the creation of a life of tasteful public and private pleasure–and it’s one that is completely lost on the rich of today. Many men think they’re playboys, but they invariably land wide of the mark. Surrounding yourself with champagne, fast friends, and paid escorts is the very definition of the word “loser.” (It’s the same with men who purchase high-tech boats, private planes, and tall Russian women. They think they’re Bond, but really, they’re Blofeld). True playboys love women–they love being around them, and they especially love the chase. [Gunter] Sach’s pursuit of Bardot, then the most sought-after woman in the world, included flying over her house in St. Tropez in a helicopter and dropping thousands of red roses down to her.’

    http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2011/07/graydon-201107

    PA ~ “But the one thing I can’t fucking stand is a slob with money”

    Neither can I. Today’s rich have no class, no manners, and above all no taste. Scum. I frequently encounter them in Laguna or Newport Beach. Lots of tacky Arabs with too much money. Don’t even get me started.

    Speaking of prostitutes, there’s a thriving escort scene in this area. It’s funny to watch the old men in their sportcoats and Cole Haan loafers sit around the bars waiting to be approached by a girl. My friends and I would try to guess which girls were escorts.

  66. In the USA almost non one is still a virgin after their early 20’s

    This isn’t true. I know a number of people who were virgins on their wedding night, as I was.

    Perhaps relatedly, at times I lean to agreeing with Charlton’s argument that the alt-right is just another face of Leftism, demonstrated by its worldly fascination with sex.

  67. That’s the heart of downtown, right?

    “All six were taken to the hospital. One was shot in the chest and is listed in stable condition. The others had non life-threatening injuries, police said.”

    So six people shot and one serious injury. Not exactly a deadly hit rate.

    But yeah that is downtown. That was just this morning, and this is the first i heard of it, and interestingly that exact location is adjacent to Minneapolis Central Library, which is a magnate for people with no other place to go and need to use the bathroom.

    Not that the Library is open at 1 in the morning, when the shootings occurred. Perhaps had it been open, they would have been inside reading.

    Not to TMI your asses, but that is an excellent library and i go there sometimes, and traverse that very block.

  68. That shooting is a perfect example of the whole What happened to the downtown scene and why don’t nice (white) people hang out there anymore?

    That topic has been in the air for, what 20 years now, 25? Minneapolis has been particularly hit by that trend, but my impression is that it is pretty universal. Detroit and LA for instance. Just about every city and the exceptions prove the rule.

  69. “This figure will surely keep dropping with the continued flood of low education,…..”

    I can’t believe that figure cited above: that 13% of the country are still virgins at age 24. But I find the thought comforting, because at certain high schools I routinely go to, I can’t imagine the virginity rate is above 50%, while there may be upward of 15-20 active pregnancies among the enrolled.

    True story: in one of these schools a few years ago, there was a girl who was 15 AND THE FIRST TRIMESTER OF HER SECOND PREGNANCY.

    God help us…

  70. Perhaps relatedly, at times I lean to agreeing with Charlton’s argument that the alt-right is just another face of Leftism, demonstrated by its worldly fascination with sex.

    What might be a reprisal of that argument?

    Simply the fascination with sex?

    If that is what Charlton’s argument is based on, it seems weak. First off, sex is a universal topic of interest and that is the water in the fish bowl. Second, who is it says that the AR is inordinately fascinated with sex?

    The AR skews young. Charlton is not so young, so perhaps it is simply a senescent bias in adjudging the AR’s interests.

  71. True story: in one of these schools a few years ago, there was a girl who was 15 AND THE FIRST TRIMESTER OF HER SECOND PREGNANCY.

    Down South there’s majority black high schools which have public-funded nurseries onsite at the High School. I’m guessing they get local church funding and support, too. They have them in Atlanta, Columbus, GA and Birmingham, to my knowledge but I’m sure there’s others.

  72. Wikileaks will be reporting that Hillary openly stated “can’t we just drone this guy” in a large State Department meeting:

    Everyone laughed initially but then quickly realized she wasn’t joking when she called him a “soft target just walking around in the open.”

  73. No, I don’t think [segregation] is currently in the realm of possibility in a practical sense —– but I oppose it theoretically as well; I impose its immorality while I believe people have the right to PERSONALLY self-segregate. {{{my emphasis}}} I concede that that alone makes for a certain amount of mandatory integration for those who’d choose to self-segregate. But I feel the greater-good of that personal-choice doctrine of segregation should prevail. — Nikcrit

    If this isn’t the mind of “radical autonomy” on display and in word then AWHAT IS IT?

  74. Elk…

    The mechanism of “white” self-annihilation IS DESIRE for radical sexual autonomy… Sexual degeneracy… Homosexuality, abortion, miscegenation, masturbation, robots, Ecstasy, etc.

    Or…

    Hatred for regenerate sexual morality, ie., white Christian sexual morality.

    Every intelligent white man understands that when he “jerks off” then he has irreparably degraded himself.

    Every intelligent white man understands that homo-sexuality is the desire to be the last link in his chain… To be the “greatest” narcissist in one’s entire line.

    And every intelligent white man understands in the utilitarian metric of “pleasure versus pain” that the first order of business is putting “pleasure” in your own hands. Orgasmic existence BEYOND all other things is high IQ “white” self-annihilator REACTION to white Supremacy and desire for Perfection.

  75. t-daddy, you throw some intriguing stuff out there. Your radical autonomy idea seems roughly consistent with the works of Jacques Ellul. His non-conformist Christianity could certainly be adopted by a wS angle. But the reality remains more vital than the report.

  76. Every intelligent white man understands that when he “jerks off” then he has irreparably degraded himself.

    I didn’t know you were Amish, T-Diddy.

    Genesis chapter 38 – God strikes Onan dead for committing this unpardonable sin !!

  77. Camlost…

    The point is that homo-sexuality is just “glamorized” masturbation for sex junkies.

    If you LITERALLY have “instant gratification” at your “hand” THEN at some point you must “distinguish” yourself in manner of pleasurable self-annihilation.

    The radical does such through pain of death.

    A vicious circle jerk, indeed.

  78. EPG…

    I will research more of your suggestions as I am oblivious to the many authors and musicians mentioned here as well as effectively illiterate in regard to their work.

    It must be that immoral individualist in me who really pines for total integration if not for the inevitable collectivist crunch that nonetheless TOTALLY LEGITIMATES segregation of the individual to at least a place of peaceful consciousness.

    Evil will have no such thing.

  79. “If this isn’t the mind of “radical autonomy” on display and in word then AWHAT IS IT?”

    All that means in terms of my intentions is that: I think it’s ok to practice segregation in one’s own personal life, but that it is morally wrong to impose it on whatever public jurisdiction writ large and DEMAND it from all within that space.

    If you have a problem with that, then fuck off. That is judicious as one can be, the PERFECT exemplar of making way for ‘free will,’ as you like to say.

  80. “Your radical autonomy idea seems roughly consistent with the works of Jacques Ellul. His non-conformist Christianity could certainly be adopted by a wS angle. But the reality remains more vital than the report.”

    Dude, at times you sound like a younger, less ripe Thordaddy in your verbal obliqueness and, umm, crypticism? —— almost like you could be Thor’s protege.

    And that’s pretty damn scary…

  81. Camlost, Assange maintained a “blog” pre-fame that was quite interesting. I never considered it a blog, but I suppose that’s what it amounted to. He’d opine some interesting stuff. Doesn’t surprise me at all that Shillary was hunting that rider via remote control.

  82. [B]ut that it is morally wrong to impose [SEGREGATION] on whatever public jurisdiction writ large and DEMAND it from all within that space. — Nikcrit

    If only this were the case, you’d have a point.

    Striving towards Supremacy is the separation I speak of…

    Your “radical autonomy” is mundanely stunted.

  83. Nikcrit’s plea is that segregation not be set free… Allowed to go PUBLIC and naked like “radical autonomy.” It must stay in private prison like “white supremacy.” Secluded and deluded to the triumph of collective conspiracy.

  84. And writing of ethnic Euro’s war on American “white supremacy…”

    Bisping versus Henderson 2…

  85. “Nikcrit’s plea is that segregation not be set free… Allowed to go PUBLIC and naked like “radical autonomy.””

    No, just not allowed to be legally enforceable upon those who do not wish to adhere to it…… FWIW, I knew you’d slander my eminently reasonable reply for your own twisted rhetorics.

    You should fall on your sword re. this issue and admit you’re wrong.

  86. Nikcrit…

    Not only am I not wrong since there is no “right or wrong” at the very bottom of this issue…

    You are claiming A Land of white Supremacy to be illegal in your moral estimation.

    A truly diabolical absurdity.

  87. And writing of ethnic Euro’s war on American “white supremacy…”

    Bisping versus Henderson 2…

    What does this mean? Henderson is going to spank (literally) that Brit loudmouth again just like their first meeting.

  88. — I think it’s ok to practice segregation in one’s own personal life, but that it is morally wrong to impose it on whatever public jurisdiction writ large and DEMAND it from all within that space. (Nikcrit)

    What is moral, as well as natural, sane, and inevitable, is this: any community is free to exclude anyone it wants to exclude. What’s morally wrong is to force the body to tolerate parasites.

  89. — Quickly O.T.: Whatup with this, Sub_elk? (Nikcrit)

    That was a milestone comment.

    Namely, the blog’s 10,000th approved comment. Thank you, my fellow racists and Nikcrit, for keeping things lively.

  90. I really do think that the next step for the alt right is to demand safe spaces for Whites. Basically, anyone can date/live with anyone, but those who choose to associate with their own kind should be allowed to do so by law. This would look something like White only neighborhoods and schools, but we would still work together among all peoples. It would actually be really great for everyone because at the end of the day we get to truly go home. You got yours, and I got mine, and we could treat each other with respect and dignity instead of fake smiles and politically correct blandness.

    Like I said, this would NOT be mandatory for all Whites. If someone wanted to live/date diversity, I would be the last one to stop them. That way, everyone has choice and they would be empowered to make the right decision for them. I suspect that in a few years we would see rapidly dropping housing prices in said White areas (don’t have to run from diversity), increased family formation, and a general sense of self respect among our people, as well as less passive agressive hostility to racial outsiders in the mainstream world because they would not be encroaching on our safe spaces.

    However, like Lara said, its hard to see diverse groups living together in society, and she would maybe ask “is this the kind of country I want” where most people are willfully segregated? In the short term, as a stop gap measure, I think this is way better and realistic than race war now 1488. I have seen a little bit of war, and I don’t wish that on anyone, I’m not even convinced that Whites would survive a civil war, never mind win such a thing. It deeply troubles me that so many in our camp see that as a desirable outcome, or even as anything except a last ditch measure to secure a future for ourselves on this continent.

    I don’t want to give the game away, but in the long term, White only living spaces would turn into formidable political blocks that would enable us to survive whatever storms come our way, and they would be the basis of a White ethnostate through internal immigration, wealth accumulation, and cultural unity.

    Yes To Safe Spaces, No To War Between Races!

  91. PA, I think you may underestimate the degree to which white and black Americans share an affection towards each other that runs deeper than the PC bullshit that is suffocating us all. There’s a sense that our destinies are intertwined in this country. Not saying this to be sentimental, it’s just true that both races have been here since the beginning and have shared a lot of history together. For that reason, it’s obvious to me that segregation will never happen unless the nation itself were torn asunder.

  92. MGE…

    You must be joshing us?

    ALL THE EVIDENCE points towards a contemptuously cynical “relationship” rapidly degenerating on election cue.

    “Affection?”

    That word has been polar-bared naked down to a hairless, shriveled white corpse.

  93. [A]ny community is free to exclude anyone it wants to exclude. What’s morally wrong is to force the body to tolerate parasites. — PA

    And yet, this isn’t really the issue as it is self-evident that “we” are in no position to exclude the Other anywhere.

    The ISSUE AT HAND is whether “we” may EXCKUDE ourselves from the rotted realm of the Other?

    MAY “we” OPT-OUT of the FORCED INTEGRATION.

    May “we” opt-out of man’s law over God’s law?

    Nikcrit says “no” and then attempts to reframe the issue as one where HE is being excluded. Doubly diabolical.

    If the “black” had its way, it would make white Supremacy a “crime” under its “moral estimation.”

    A “black” or “jew” or “jihadist” or “migger” or “homodyke” who seeks to make white Supremacy a “crime” under a “moral” pretense is terminable.

    And the reason most high IQ “white” males will not get to the above conclusion IS BECAUSE they are anti-white Supremacists at heart. Occam’s razor.

  94. “Fugg off”
    And
    “Fall on your sword”
    A plus retort…
    Muthafugging crickets
    I’m the briar rabbit
    Who hop through
    Jew thickets
    Nikcrit-n-Slim Pickins
    Two peas in a poz
    Sellin’ tickets
    To a liberated magic show
    Starring Davie Coppafeel
    Don’t believe your eyes
    Lies made real
    Right before your disguise
    That’s a neat trick
    Not a cheap chick
    In this house of flame
    And skinned dick
    Circumcision as crucifixion
    Abraca…
    hicc</em
    up…
    Dab bruh…
    And that black shit sticks…

  95. I rush
    Because
    I Race
    To a “place”
    Called Singularity
    Which may be perfectly
    Spaced
    To be conceived universally
    The question
    “Can I get there”
    Via radical autonomy?
    Once dawned on me
    Free
    Twice morphed into three
    A triad
    Treed
    Leaved
    Branched
    Cleaved
    The deepest need
    Rooted
    In belief
    In the highest thing
    A white man may conceive
    Perfection…
    Otherwise understood
    As objective Supremacy…

    There is a Master Race to the Singularity…

  96. — PA, I think you may underestimate the degree to which white and black Americans share an affection towards each other that runs deeper than the PC bullshit that is suffocating us all. (MGE)

    I’d be willing to concede that point except, as Thordaddy pointed out, the historic familiarity between the two and the good will that came of the familiarity, has been destroyed by the behavior of liberated blacks. I’ll agree, there is a man-woman sort of analogy one could make about historic w-b America, with us as the husband in marriage to the childlike black race. Someone outside looking in might wonder “how can they make it work” as people do with some couples. But to keep going with the analogy, the female showed her true colors. A man will care about his charmingly maddening woman, but only until the point where she turns her ugly side on him and reveals herself for the soulless cunt she always was.

    Just go and watch a few knockout videos again.

  97. Black people can be good company. However, I suspect if I went to an all white country, like Poland, it would be eye opening. The African American underclass is such a huge drain on our energy, resources, etc. I’m not sure the pleasant interactions I have with blacks are worth all the costs their underclass imposes on us.

  98. — PA, I think you may underestimate the degree to which white and black Americans share an affection towards each other that runs deeper than the PC bullshit that is suffocating us all. (MGE)
    I’ll agree, there is a man-woman sort of analogy one could make about historic w-b America, with us as the husband in marriage to the childlike black race.

    Actually, blacks are married to the Democratic Party.

    Every dream they have of social improvement hinges on some action by the government, but they’re still too stupid too see that the proliferation of so many more “favored” minority groups with better economic abilities (gays, Middle Easterners, Hispanics) is going to be devastating for them.

    And in other news that doesn’t bode well for blacks, NFL ratings are plunging in the wake of these “flag” controversies:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/brandonkatz/2016/10/03/nfls-sunday-night-football-ratings-in-freefall-league-nervous/#60dc779c58a4

    A future with far less whites is not good for them, the Hispanics and Asians that are overtaking them in the workforce also won’t patronize them in entertainment/sports they way whites have.

  99. Even if every single white person in this country united in calling for the return of segregation it would be economically unworkable and all of the costs would fall on whites. It’s a pipe dream.

    Even in the Jim Crow South only schools and public accommodations were segregated, blacks and whites still lived close to each other – neighborhood segregation wasn’t necessary. Even the richest 5% of whites lived very close to blacks, because they needed the maids and hired help.

    Many blacks of the older generation used to say “up north the white man doesn’t care if you get ahead, he just doesn’t want you living close to him… but down south the white man doesn’t care if you live next to him, he just doesn’t want you getting ahead.”

  100. Any Schadenfreude i have for the NFL dying is for its fans. And that is not a dig at the people on this blog, but in the real world, those get-togethers where American males unfamiliar with each other bond over sports talk? Sad.

    These guys whose self-worth is bound up in how much they know about sports. Talk radio professionals will have these A-lists for fans who get honorary mentions for their intelligent commentary. They made a (pretty bad) movie about that called The Fan, with gayface depression case Patton used-to-be-funny Oswalt. If you wanna get sick and throw up (for personal reasons unnecessary to disclose) check out his latest netflix. It is really bad.

    I used to follow that genre of netflix stand-up comedy, but there isn’t anything good anymore. They have all caved.

  101. The Big Game, the Sunday ritual, or Monday Night. Not long ago that was a part of things, part of our “social fabric”.

    In ML Baseball the Seattle player was suspended for his tweets. Practically speaking, that was a bad PR move, by the League and the teams management.

    That harsh punitive measure, so plainly contrasting to the treatment of Kaepernick — how can MLB management not know that that is really gonna rub the fans the wrong way, especially considering that baseball is mostly white.

    They keep on doubling down on their anti-white line.

    It is funny though, to think of those White pro athletes, venting on social media. You know damn well they are buzzin hard.

  102. “I don’t want to give the game away, but in the long term, White only living spaces would turn into formidable political blocks that would enable us to survive whatever storms come our way, and they would be the basis of a White ethnostate through internal immigration, wealth accumulation, and cultural unity.”

    You guys keep talking about some “white ethnostate” as if it’s some future pipe dream.

    So apparently none of you fellows have already been to Branson, Missouri.

  103. These guys whose self-worth is bound up in how much they know about sports.

    My interest in the NFL has been waning for some time. I’ll admit, I still watch a game from time to time, but don’t have the devotion I once did, where, sadly, yes, I was much like what you describe above.

    Now, I can see similar in other fellows here at work—a few of them with some heavy guts—talking about “their” team or worse, “their” fantasy team, and talking as though they’re doing something meaningful with their lives.

    For as much as I enjoyed and was into football, I never cared for the fantasy stuff. It was just fun watching the games. But now, even though I might have the telly on, I now find myself getting bored and usually just peruse the internet and keep it on for bg chatter.

  104. “The Vikings look pretty legit this year don’t they, Elk?”

    Refs blew about ten calls in that game with all but one going against GB. So what? They win against the NFC North elite for their new stadium debut by a field goal and aggressive home team officiating.

    My prediction for the upcoming game at Lambeau: 45-17 Green Bay.

  105. LOL if that isn’t the pot calling the kettle… Green Bay has been benefiting from bad calls since Aaron Rodgers got there, from the terrible call against the Cowboys at the end of the last playoff game there to the horrendous call that gave them extra life to set up the Hail Mary versus the Lions last year. And Rodgers hasn’t played the same since he told that story about getting abducted by aliens or whatever.

    But seriously, no way the Packers win that big. The Vikings are way too physical for that.

    And now that Sam Bradford is comfortable their offense is way been than in that 1st game with the Packers where they could only must 17 points. And the Packers have had their hands full squeaking out wins against terrible Detroit and Jacksonville teams.

  106. the terrible call against the Cowboys at the end of the last playoff game there to the horrendous call that gave them extra life to set up the Hail Mary versus the Lions last year

    That call in the Cowboys game was bad. But, GB found a way to lose the lead in the conference game–that was some bad defense down the stretch.

    And that call in the Lions game was horrendous.

    Vikings have a solid defense. I think they’ll sweep GB this year.

  107. “And now that Sam Bradford is comfortable their offense is way been than in that 1st game with the Packers where they could only must 17 points.”

    I do admit that it is very impressive the way Bradford came in and learned the schemes in a month; he’s even worked out a no-huddle, two-minute-like drill that’s improvisational yet detailed and nuanced, with traps, foils and delays.

    I fear y ou may be right about Rodgers; that SB win was six years ago and his QB rating has been under 100 now for over a regular-season span of games, if you combine the last two years.

    I knew that horrific NFC Championship game collapse in Seattle a couple years back would become epic in scope and a bane on their legacy. Truth is, as good as his numbers are, Rodgers has commandeered some of the biggest chokes and losses, including a string of home-field playoff losses. That Seattle game was theirs!

    Cam, I thought that hail-mary divisional playoff loss to Arizona was our karmic payback for losing there in 2009; when Rodgers tied it I was SURE we’d win the toss and score; that 70-yard Fitzgerald screen pass was sickening to watch.

    But Seattle will be the bane that stick forever. There should’ve been firings on the plane going back to Green Bay after that game.

  108. p.s.—– that call against Dallas in the divisional playoff to GB was crude and close —– but it was the RIGHT call, given the dictates of that particular rule.

    I’m among those who believes the call was correct but the rule sucks and should be rescinded. The ball clearly touched the ground; he did not fully catch and maintain control before he tried extend it toward the goal-line (which was a bit of ghetto-like greediness).

    Blonde Beasley would’ve tucked it in and made the catch look more controlled; him being the less flashy, innately common-sense-endowed kind of wide receiver, right? 🙂

  109. Blonde Beasley would’ve tucked it in and made the catch look more controlled; him being the less flashy, innately common-sense-endowed kind of wide receiver, right

    Michael Irvin woulda caught it clean and clear, rest assured of that. And he would’ve given the defensive back a nice friendly-but-covert shove at just the right second while ball was in flight to earn himself the space he needed.

    Blonde locks or not, the 5-8 Beasley is a pretty difficult target to hit that far down the field. That ‘s like trying to throw a golf ball into a solo cup sitting in the parking lot across the street.

  110. p.s.—– that call against Dallas in the divisional playoff to GB was crude and close —– but it was the RIGHT call, given the dictates of that particular rule.

    Funny you say that because after he got up and lost the ball, and as they showed the replay, I said, “oh, that’s coming back” and sure enough it did, precisely for the reason you state.

  111. I know I like to bash radical liberationists with that sledgehammer of “radical (sexual) autonomy,” but only because they refuse to accept the precision prick of wS. This trypanophobia MUST BE OVERCOME. I’m not injecting *you* with drugs.

    WHEN ONE CAN NO LONGER HIT his adversary as hard as he desires… Game over.

    The NFL IS DEAD!

  112. I was a preferred walk-on QB for what was at the time a lowly DIV I university.

    I ONLY PLAYED FOUR GAMES at QB my senior year. New coach. New offense. “We” were a 1-9 DIV I highschool team.

    And I was the best raw athlete of the 5-6 QBs we had when I was a redshirt freshman on paper and the field. But I was not cerebral about the game at all. And certainly apolitical about the whole affair.

    I went to FS the next season.

    I could dunk in one step with two hands… Easily.

    I bulldozed 275lb-315lb d-lineman in the basic old school line-n-up… I ALWAYS TOLD THEM FIRST WHICH DIRECTION I WAS RUNNING… They knew a train was coming and exactly where we’d meet.

    And it was there that a “black” senior who did a little stint in the NFL said, “Watch out for this one…”

    He glimpsed wS in me before I glimpsed wS in me. Thanks Jason.

  113. Beyond the given of collision
    Are variables
    Of adaptation
    And relative division
    The nature of Concussion
    Is collusion
    Between
    Blank slaters
    And opportunistic looters
    Bigger skulls
    Smaller brains
    And here come all the losers
    Losing their minds
    They hooter
    And holler
    Offer up hot chicken wings
    “Nigga, don’t bother!”
    Claims to be a baller
    Shot caller
    Endorse a “white” granny…

    LMFAO!

    It’s a bad time to be a professional athlete. BAD BAD TIME.

  114. “Nikcrit-n-Slim Pickins
    Two peas in a poz”

    Instant classic. My next lyric:

    Major angst like Trickin’
    Running chicks like the ‘Cos

  115. Thor,
    Do you seriously think that an all-white NFL team could beat an all-black one?

    Do you think the same for an all-white-vs-all-black NBA team?

    (I can’t believe i’m lowering myself to these absurd posits, but WTF).

    p.s.—– I could do a dead-drop vertical leap dunk, too, (dunk with no running start or even a step).

    I’m going to revamp my bod this fall and in a few years i’m going to be among that select few who dunks a basketball on a regulation height hoop while being over-50.

    (True melancholy: to be on a stepper or treadmill looking through the plexiglass at the other side of the club that features the basketball court, where images of yourself-days-past are out hooping.But when you try to join them for a few? Within ten seconds you realize Father Time is on your back and he ain’t going away!)

  116. “It’s a bad time to be a professional athlete. BAD BAD TIME.”

    Really? I wouldn’t mind a year or two of those $950,000-per salaries; and if you make it three years, i believe, you’re eligible for the lifelong pension, which i think is $5800 a year.

    T-dad, I can think of worse fates than being a professional athlete in this day and age. Nightclub bouncing must pay real, REAL, well for you to feel the way you do.

  117. Do you think the same for an all-white-vs-all-black NBA team?

    You mean like Greece or Argentina or Lithuania beating Team USA in basketball? it’s happened many times.

    NFL, not so much. It’s a USA-only game.

  118. Nikcrit…

    I can literally bounce without selling my soul. Afterall, I do the work of regulating self-annihilators.

    TODAY’S professional athlete MUST BE A POLITICAL STOOGE FIRST…

    But more specifically, for a “black” and “white” athlete this means convergence whereas for a white athlete this means negation of sheer athleticism.

    And again…

    Compare the pool of ELIGIBLE BLACK AND WHITE ATHLETES…

    Now remove all the AA….

    Recalculate your pool…

    Draw your all white and all black teams…

    What do you get? Where do “you” win and where do you lose? Think great white receivers… The new crop. The BEST ATHLETES.

    PS. I’m 6’1″… And you are? I also once did a witnessed 360 at the university’s old gym.

  119. And of course… There are far more lucrative ways of being a political stooge that wouldn’t so drastically physically cripple you all the same.

  120. An all black football team would not be as good as organizing plays, but they would probably make up for it with athletic ability.

  121. “PS. I’m 6’1″… And you are? I also once did a witnessed 360 at the university’s old gym.”

    I was 6’1″ during periods of dunking ability, including 360s myself while in high school. (I had odd growth spurts: I was 6’1″ in the summer of 5th grade —– but then didn’t grow at all until i was 21, when i added a bit more than one-inch, so, yeah, i got 1.5 inches on you……. as a freshmen they moved me up to varsity because A) my h.s. team was me and a bunch of Jewish dudes; B) I was 6’1″ and 210, so they put me at center! That would never fukin’ happen today.

    (FWIW, I had some regular contact via school and at my personal health club with the kid who went last in the first-round year-before-last, who’s on Golden State. He was a AP student and his black parents were both teachers in the same school system.)

  122. nickrit,

    Bronson Missouri is all white you say? Well, not for long, just like Minneapolis and now Maine. Some of us want to have our own spaces, encoded and enforced by law, and we want the same thing for you too.

  123. Anonymous bro,
    That was a joke; I suppose Branson has a few Charley Pride tribute acts, so I guess technically it’s not ‘all white.”

    You got me.

  124. Branson will not be invaded by blacks anytime soon, they hate life in the mountains. Too much effort walking to the bus stop and liquor store.

  125. Lara…

    You can no more take organization out of athleticism than you can take the savage out of the barbarian.

  126. Who knew we was in the presence of such great athletes.

    At the Big 10 college i was at a t-shirt was available at the Memorabilia Store where you could get college things. Across the front it read,

    I was a great athlete in high school

    And to beat to joke down by talking about it, an ungodly percentage of the guys on your floor and in your hall, were (by their accounts) “great athletes in high school.” Two or three guys in my acquaintance were voted Most Athletic by their senior class (or so they said).

  127. In all seriousness, a standing dunk, or a one-step two-handed, is exceptional. Top one-percent in America, easily, at least.

    In India, it would be top .001 per cent, probably. But this is America.

    As for the 360s, i would have to see it to believe it. No offense, but it is like saying that you can do 100 push-ups. There is a lot of variation in the quality. A real 360 is pretty rare. Usually guys are taking off at 120 degrees. Though i suppose in the judgment of the court that is no dq.

  128. “In all seriousness, a standing dunk, or a one-step two-handed, is exceptional. Top one-percent in America, easily, at least.”

    While such a metric would flatter me and my ability, i’m not sure that’s true. I have long but stout legs and was always more exceptional and vertical leaping over the much more common ‘running’ leaper (i.e., think post-up, under-the-basket-dunking and man-to-man shotblocking ability, over breakaway layup dunks and stealing another teams cross-court passes which mostly favor running-leaping skill, or ‘horizontal jumping’ to the extent that makes sense. by the time i was full height, i had a then-classic two-guard physique, if a bit husky for said prototype. But i was way, WAY not quick enough, nor had the required level of dribbling skill or ‘handle’ to be a guard. My history as a prep athlete is a lot of wishing, fantasizing and coulda-been, alongside very, limited live-action highlights.

    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    OK, I gotta admit that I’m quite disappointed that not one commenter here thought my Charley Pride tribute act in Branson quip was worthy of retort.

    FWIW, I thought that was hilarious. Oh, well…..

  129. — but it is like saying that you can do 100 push-ups.

    I did 80-something push-ups in the Army. Don’t recall the exact number. Mind you, this was on a PT test where the tester doesn’t count any non-perfect reps. I can do 40 without great effort today (still minding the form) and I’m cautiously stating that I’m capable of training myself up to 100.

  130. “In all seriousness, a standing dunk, or a one-step two-handed, is exceptional. Top one-percent in America, easily, at least.”

    This is correct.

    The basketball goal is 10 feet in the air. Height and wingspan matter and 50% of the population is female and doesn’t have the stature to dunk. And the average height for men in America is still only around 5-9.

    World-class athletes like Simone Biles or Lionel Messi won’t be dunking a basketball.

  131. Trickin, the NFL’s minimum salary is around 425K a year, not the 900k that you cited.

    The NBA’s minimum salary is higher. It’s in excess of 600K, I think.

    The NFL pension doesn’t kick in until age 55. There’s an annuity that players can start withdrawing a few years after their playing days are over, but it requires player contribution to gain the match from the league and a shocking amount of players don’t contribute.

  132. “Trickin, the NFL’s minimum salary is around 425K a year, not the 900k”

    I stand corrected; I wasn’t sure but didn’t feel the overall point was compromised enough for me to bother Googling it, etc.

  133. While North America/USA has always been multi-racist, “America” was founded as a pan-European nation.

    There were three races here since the beginning of “America” – the Europeans, the Indians, and the Africans. The Indians were never “Americans” – they were “Turtle Islanders” and their nations either died off due to disease (which started even before the White man came, seals and other animals brought the earliest waves. And let’s not forget Europe lost half of its population due to the Black Plague and other diseases – this was not unique to the Indians.)

    Africans were brought here as slaves and were never considered “Americans.”

    America was founded by Europeans as a “pan-European” nation. Mostly – this mean Northern European – English, Scottish, Welsh, French, Irish and Dutch. It mostly meant Protestant. The Germans of the 1800s were eyed quite suspiciously for a long time. By it was pan-European from the beginning.

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