We Would Recognize Each Other

The wind has changed direction. Commenter quixotic over at Le Château puts the ascendant Zeitgeist into words and I am quoting a fragment of his comment here:

But redpilled thinking cannot be broken. If the fucking internet went out tonight and never returned, I know the men on this site would continue on living by the same principles. They would recognize each other on the street without a word ever spoken. They would be the guy across the bar who sees what you see and knows what will happen next before a fight breaks out. And that TERRIFIES the left.

Because in the end, these are just words. But they represent something greater than words. That something is in our genes, our very existence. We are programmed by nature/God to seek truth and beauty and abhor ugliness. You cannot TRICK me into agreeing that something ugly is beautiful. That something corrupt is innocent. Because that feeling in my gut will always be there to guide me.

We could just end the post right here, but those words spurred me to think about how we recognize and network with each other.

Promoting atomization is how they try to pull the nation-wrecking over on us. As Roosh’s recent try at coordinating a worldwide happy hour meetup has shown, the system will not tolerate Alt-Right’s in-person activities on a visible scale. On the other hand, low-key private meetups among bloggers and commenters are outside of most people’s comfort zone for reasons of anonymity. The model I recommend at this time is to communicate among each other as we’ve been doing, openly on line — and network in real life with regular people who are not involved in Alt-Right discussions. Being atomized is a weakness but its up-side, decentralization, gives us the multi-headed hydra’s power of antifragility.

Below are some thoughts about opportunities we have for communicating with others to build social cohesion among ourselves beyond our normal network of friends and family, many of whom may well be dispersed geographically:

Red-pilled strangers. You’ve had the experience like mine on the subway last week: the cute college girl catches your eye as you stand there in the moving car. Your attention then goes elsewhere until you catch her stealing glances at you. You notice your own reflection in a glass partition and you see what she sees: pure supremacy. If you’re single, it’s game-on, Shitlord. Whatever your individual strengths and weaknesses, she instinctually recognizes you as an awakened White man. It’s in the eyes. Chances are, you will run into someone else like you, another red-pilled stranger. We have a look. Eyes forward, not down. That look of having shaken off the sleepyhead.

Friends and family. I’ve long ago stopped getting into political debates with people I know because it’s pointless, and sometimes unnecessarily alienating. The Red Pill is a bitter one and not everyone can handle its taste at full dose. The way to guide someone in our direction is to recognize that he is in fact looking for a discussion and show that you are open to it. Then ask him questions and listen to his thoughts, holding back when tempted to dispense too much knowledge at once.

Complex dialectic is best saved for fellow red-pilled folks because someone who is new to our thinking will forget the wonkier points later. Short, quippy summations are more effective with newbs because they are memorable and they define the big picture. Example:

A questioning friend: “Why is it bad to let women vote?”
You: “Because men vote for liberty and women vote for tyranny.”
Friend: “How so?”
You: “Women instinctively submit to power. So whichever party appears to be dominant, especially if its rule is heavy-handed and its figurehead is charismatic, women will support that party. Men are less risk-averse, we chafe under overbearing authority, and we take a longer view of things.”

Another example:

Friend: “So why are our governments doing this to us? What’s their motive?”
You: “White men hang tyrants. Muds stab each other over sneakers.”

Talk to your neighbors. Break outside of your comfort zone and talk with them; being introverted is no excuse. Don’t lead off with politics, just talk about the weather, be pleasant, make them want to talk to you next time they see you. Some of your neighbors feel isolated. This could especially be the case if you live in modest circumstances on the raw edge of diversity, such as in a lower-end apartment complex.

Blue collar contractors. I once started a conversation with a man in line at a convenience store. He told me he owns a father-son licensed roofing company, and it so happened that I was researching companies the job. I took his phone number, had him over for an estimate, and hired him to replace my roof. He and his son did an excellent job, including repairing an unanticipated hidden problem that a big-company contractor would not have done without a delay and additional charges.

Working outside of the corporate services provider matrix makes things more honest and they work without the pressure of upselling unnecessary work. Not all self-employed contractors are trustworthy, competent or insured, so do your due diligence and trust your gut. To support our community economically, I always go with White providers of services.

Fellow parents. If you have young children, join activities and make friends with other parents. Looking ahead to your children’s marriage, there is a scarcity of young men who have their act together and young women who are wife-material. It’s good to have inroads to connect your kids with high-value potential partners. Even if they ultimately date and marry via their own social network, your association with good families will have set for them expectations of quality.

Irritating strangers. Impatient with a White dude blocking your way, embarrassed by another who draws snickers from multicultural onlookers? Let go of your irritation. He’s our brother.

Don’t pollute. Do not bring non-Whites to family events or to parks, venues, or events that are implicitly ours. Spaces that we find pleasant are that way because we create and maintain them. It’s our community, our social capital and our place to be who we are.

***

There is a handful of people I know in real life who read this and related blogs. As interesting as good comment threads are, talking about these ideas in person is exquisitely satisfying. When we have a country of our own, we will all buy each each other a beer.

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185 thoughts on “We Would Recognize Each Other

  1. I’ve met plenty of people from the online dissident / contrarian sphere, and while I admit I may come to regret it one day, so far I’ve had no trouble, (yeah, yeah; famous last words) and overall I’ve found it extremely rewarding to make such in-person contacts.

    Remember what a great hangout Foseti’s place used to be? I met him over three years ago and have always valued his company and opinion. His blog slowed down and went into permanent hiatus shortly thereafter, and If I had never met him in person, he would have totally dropped into the anonymous abyss for me. (E.g. do you remember The Man Who is Thursday? Vanished.) And I’m glad he didn’t, and that fortune put us in the same geographic area for a while.

    Well, I just recently learned that he’s leaving town, and it put me in a funk. So one last meetup next month of course, with maybe another old friend or two, to end on a high note. I’m guessing not based on your previous statements, but if you’ve any interest, just let me know.

  2. You’ve had the experience like mine on the subway last week… you catch her stealing glances at you.

    No, I’ve never had this experience.

    do you remember The Man Who is Thursday? Vanished.)

    You’re reading the wrong places – ol’ Thurs pops up, like Gandalf, on the occasional thread (at Charlton’s, e.g.).

    I’d love to meet people from the alt-Right in real life, but alas they’re in short supply in rural Canada, much as it may astound me to think that there’s *any* enterprising young man *not* reading this stuff.

  3. Break outside of your comfort zone and talk with them; being introverted is no excuse.

    Are you introverted? I cannot make this sort of small talk for love nor money. I watch people casually discuss politics, religion, whatever else, and I admire them for it, because I cannot do it.

    Looking ahead to your children’s marriage, there is a scarcity of young men who have their stuff together and young women who are wife-material. It’s good to have inroads to connect your kids with high-value potential partners.

    It’s amazing how often I now think about this very thing. One thing that gives me hope is that my kids’ homeschool group is filled to the brim with intelligent, lovely children of other doctors, engineers, etc. My children may or may not literally marry one of the kids that they spend time with now, but I agree that this sort of networking is useful and encouraging.

  4. I saw a young fat Muslim couple w/ a baby in a cafe this morning.

    My hatred for the filth is palpable.

    I think they sensed it.

    They soon left.

  5. Yes, brother, I’m sure we’ll recognise each other. You’ll recognise me for my height, my build, my large German (broken) nose, high forehead, my scar, deep blue eyes, and a very serious look on my face. I’m told I look intimidating, as if I’m going to kill someone, like a cop or a Nazi or a Russian gangster, but I’m actually quite friendly. I attract people. My experience has most likely been very different from yours, but I’m certain we’ll get along. I’m rather taciturn in person, but after a few cocktails we’ll start chatting like old friends.

  6. My colleagues at the last few financial firms I’ve worked at have for some reason felt at liberty to ridicule googles and jews in my presence. It’s been startling. One of my chums, a portfolio manager at a major Wall Street firm in Los Angeles, likes to ‘phone me and leave buy orders in a jewy Noo Yawk accent. I always know it’s him. There’s something about me, or my physical presence, that brings out their inner shitlord. Whatever it is, I welcome it.

  7. We are an insurgency of sorts. Leaderless resistance is vital. Our groupings and orgs must be small, clandestine and organised liked cells to make us resilient. One on one recruitment into interpersonal networks is a must. We need to create our own networks and our own informal medias to replace the crap forced on us by the Empire.

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  9. Don’t try to create a in-person network based on internet handles.

    Instead, meet your people in real life and if they aren’t already red pilled – red pill them.

    Last time I saw my young nephew, at the bar he started spitting Roissy style game like a natural. I asked him if he had heard of “game” and the like and he just laughed – of course – had I read this or that blog?

    Colin Liddell’s latest article makes an excellent point about how the internet is rebuilding social networks that were lost to the Poz in real life – but that is NOT a good thing, that’s a very bad thing.

    Network with people you meet in real life. Internet friends are not real.

  10. I met a few shitlords from Stormfront several years ago and took part in some activism IRL. Also, met some well-known Alt-Right figures. Most of them have moved away by now.

  11. Over a dozen young Alt-Right shitlords met up in person in Huntington Beach just last week.

    May it continue.

  12. While the internet is good, it is only by moving offline that we change anything. So people need to meet up in real life and support each other or this will all be for nothing. I have a group that I meet up with here in Melbourne, Australia call the Melbourne Traditionalists. We are meeting next on the 3rd October, if anyone here is in the area let me know.

    Mark Moncrieff
    Upon Hope – A Traditional Conservative Future

  13. Working outside of the corporate services “provider matrix” = Hydra of Antifragility

    I suspect it’s a large component of an effortless SL face.

  14. Nkrit- you inquired whether TX was really southern in another thread. Hope that was a joke, but it eludes me entirely. We are south of southern, and keep trying to secede to become even more so.

  15. I agree discussions with liberals are mostly pointless and unnecessarily alienating. They have their reasons for thinking the way they do, same as me. I did recently tell one of them about John Derbyshire’s immigration analogy comparing parents favoring their own children to a country favoring its own citizens. I am going to drop the issue now. If you are too aggressive in presenting your point all it does it make the other person dig in further.
    I have found you cannot discuss these issues at all in front of non white people, including Jews. It is too upsetting to them.

  16. “Nkrit- you inquired whether TX was really southern in another thread. Hope that was a joke, but it eludes me entirely.”

    Nope, not joking; it’s just that many people sort of think of it as part ‘southern’ and part ‘southwestern,’ a la Arizona and New Mexico, with ‘part’ inferring dialect, geographical detail, and certain socio-ethnic detail. I have too limited an experience with the state to have opinion (been to a NABJ conference in Dallas; when i departed the plane at 8 p.m. it was 108 degrees. Other than that, i did a 90-minute layover at the Houston airport but that’s been it in terms of me and Texas.

  17. The main thing to being a shitlord is having and keeping one’s shit together. But there are plenty of people who have their shit together and are not interested in race politics.

    It is easy to see who has his shit together — but how can one tell who is concerned with race politics?

    It probably doesn’t matter, who takes an explicit interest in White Identity. Some people are interested in such things, but to most people such questions are implicit and or esoteric.

    There is that sort of person though, who has his shit together, and is sincerely indifferent, but not explicitly opposed, to race politics. So that person is not a shitlord.

    The raceless man. What about him?

    ****************

    Well it’s the Night of the Big Fight.

    What concoction of meds is Insane Hillary going to be on?

    She has to stand in front of the camera for 90 minutes.

    Is there a line in Vegas on the odds she will have “an episode” … of course there is not, because it might be unclear as to what qualifies. If she hacks up only one lung, does that count? If she does the birdbeak head nod back and forth only once, will she get a pass?

    She wears those oversized jackets to conceal the tube up her butt.

    Is the Debate going to follow the rules, of 90 minutes without an break?

  18. Texas is divided into several parts. The Panhandle is part of the Plains. West Texas is part of the Southwest. The Gulf Coast is part of the South.

    Is that fair?

    I do not intend fightin words.

  19. — There is that sort of person though, who has his shit together, and is sincerely indifferent, but not explicitly opposed, to race politics. (Elk)

    Geographic perspectives still vary. In and around Mordor, there’s no such thing as indifferent to race politics. You simply can’t get away from it. Any apparent indifference is either degenerate or a near-sincere affectation.

    In southern Indiana where almost everyone is White and you don’t happen to read political blogs, it’s still possible to be somewhat raceless.

  20. “…Panhandle is part of the Plains. West Texas is part of the Southwest. The Gulf Coast is part of the South.”

    East Texas has always felt most southern to me. Small towns. I’ve only tasted big city life in my home state, but can say that if you’re amassing (or earnestly pursuing) wealth while regularly drinking Shiner Bock in Dallas or even San Antonio, you’re very much a part of the south. You feel it in the wind. Though a lot of the restaurants are indeed SW influenced. Not always a bad thing.

    If Trump mentions Hilary’s “tube” at the debate, he’s on the home stretch at top-speed. Looking past the short-term hits from conglomerate etiquette warriors.

  21. I just went through my mail. There is a flyer in there with the words: He makes us feel worthless. Under that is a list of Trump quotes:
    “Young and beautiful piece of ass”
    “Fat pigs”
    “Dogs”
    “A person who is flat chested is very hard to be a 10”
    “Slobs”
    “Is she hot?”

  22. I would put money on the fact that the person who put together that flyer is a man. It seems like a blatant attempt to manipulate women with low self esteem.

  23. I have a group that I meet up with here in Melbourne, Australia call the Melbourne Traditionalists (Mark Moncrieff)

    That’s fantastic. Sidney is a day’s drive from you, but I understand that they have a robust Trad group activities as well. I just saw Richard Spencer and SidneyTrad communicate about something on Twitter.

  24. (E.g. do you remember The Man Who is Thursday?  (Handle)

    Yes, I remember him. Cool that you met. He was one of the original commenters at CH, via 2 Blowhards like I was, I believe.

  25. — Network with people you meet in real life. Internet friends are not real. (Hipster Racist)

    Yes. Of course, there are plenty of stories of Internet personalities hitting it off once they did meet. Good to see you here, BTW.

  26. — There’s something about me, or my physical presence, that brings out their inner shitlord. Whatever it is, I welcome it. (LBF)

    Natural leadership. A gift and a burden.

  27. Great post, PA.

    As a high school teacher, I see kids everyday who, with some guidance and encouragement, may very well be one of us someday. I wish I could tell them. I just make little “Matrix” references about ‘taking the red pill’. VERY few have understood, but those who have, they are one of us now.

    The ones that are, they have the look. They know.

  28. PA, are you sure that the alt right should be using the term “woke”? I laugh every time I hear the Obama supporters use it. I say we leave it to them, same as the term “haters.”

  29. You’ll recognise me for my height, my build, my large German (broken) nose, high forehead, my scar, deep blue eyes, and a very serious look on my face. I’m told I look intimidating, as if I’m going to kill someone, like a cop or a Nazi or a Russian gangster, but I’m actually quite friendly. I attract people. — LBF

    Dang… We must be coming across the same people?

    No reason not to network in all ways personally adventageous. Clearly, “Internet personality” is a mechanism by which one can maximize his real and perceived autonomy and in many cases by way of neutralizing the “Internet personality” of his rivals. Or, so the mind tells him so…

    Speaking of which….

    Is this Vox Day’s newest attempt at trolling the anti-wS to his near left?

  30. Today i awake
    yesterday i awoke
    I have awoken

    So with that verb (and participle), awake, the correct phrase would be,

    Awoken strangers.

    But that is awkward … or maybe not.

  31. “We” utilize a truly liberated language…

    “Woke” is forward-thinking inevitability…

    A memetic impression VIOLENTLY IMPOSED…

    Much like “abortion” became a “reproductive right” and high IQ “white” males were now at ease knowing their termination from conception WOULD have been the exercise of a “mother’s” fundamental right AND THUS the execution of A GOOD THING.

    Smash a liberated language and you can take your life back FROM THE BEGINNING.

  32. PA – Go to Google images for “stay woke.”

    Also, every twitter hashtag with #woke in it is lefty and/or pro-BLM.

  33. Clearly, your average modern “black” has been LITERALLY SCHOOLED in the “art” of psychological warfare against the white boy while slimultaneously said white boy has been schrewled in the “art” of self-annihilation in the face of such warfare.

  34. Thanks guys. I’m persuaded. I changed “woke” to something else.

    And all the alt-right people who use “haters” make me laugh, they don’t know that the term originates in Hip-Hop and is just a shortened form of “playerhater.” In their haste to always portray themselves as oppressed and put-upon you see how quickly black Americans always talk about “hate” being the equivalent of anything remotely resembling objective criticism or being corrected or called out for bad behavior.

  35. p.s.–

    Re. Texas, and debate about it being ‘southern’ and my personal interactive history with the state.

    I’ve been to Dallas and through Houston airport—— but also, i neglected to mention, Austin several times. I overlooked this because EVERYONE i know says Austin is anomaly to the rest of the state and my time there was very cloistered and defined and in ‘work mode.’ I’d like to get out and see the entirety of that city proper, though

  36. I have never heard a black person use “woke”. “Haters” they use all the time. I never do, I can’t stand it. I sometimes use “bling” just because I like that one. Some black colloquialisms are good, many are just irritating.

  37. I’ll take the bait…
    Normally
    I’d wait
    Weigh a decision
    To engage
    An Internet snake
    Slithery
    Askjew
    Electron aggregate
    Aggravate
    Berate
    And humiliate
    Is BLM motto
    Sensate
    Cognate
    On “who”
    Will wake
    Woke to spoke
    True nigger hate
    Anti-schrewled
    Magna cum laureate.

  38. The “crime” of separation
    Is exponentially accelerated
    “Black” self-annihilation
    Where niggers run wild
    The “talented tenth”
    Stoke fires
    And “white liberals”
    Are the lowest liars
    Only they tire
    Under the mire
    Of their own making
    Partaking
    In an unspoken ritual
    Designed to wire
    A white boy’s brain
    On “nothing” higher…

  39. If I had never met him in person, he would have totally dropped into the anonymous abyss for me

    I might also mention that every time a prominent blogger or commenter “disappears” from online life, I harbour a secret hope that it’s because he’s moved on to a position of greater influence and power.

  40. — every time a prominent blogger or commenter “disappears” from online life, I harbour a secret hope that it’s because he’s moved on to a position of greater influence and power. (Samson J.)

    I’ve wondered about prolific commenters and bloggers who have disappeared, because some of them clearly had a compulsion to write. It’s hard for me to accept that they’d have completely stopped posting anywhere.

  41. I’ve got to think that those alt righter bloggers who got exposed publicly were doxxed only because they actually met with other alt righters in some way, or told people they know in real life, and then someone squealed.

  42. Apparently, that’s what he thinks. Hillary is a hard worker. I’m just worried he is going to be completely humiliated. Politics is actually kind of boring. Maybe he isn’t cut out for it.

  43. One thing Trump isn’t in the habit of, is losing. He’s not going in there unprepared. He understands that the moderator is biased, that he is working against high expectations for his performance and she is not, and that her team is working on her.

  44. Trump just needs a smaller terrier loose on the stage, then it will pull a Toto and run behind Hillary’s ass curtain and pull out the colostomy bag.

    @ Cheap Trick – Are you more sure of Hillary’s “excellent health” than you were about Trump’s VP pick?

  45. There’s a buzz going around the office today about the debate.

    Goys are leaving early to watch.

    I’m getting tingles all over, fam.

  46. Agnostic/ (on my sidebar blogroll) has tracked Trump’s campaign highs and lows, and several weeks ago picked up on a cycle, with this week being his final down-phase. He even predicted a lackluster first debate. But he is on pace to peak at election time.

    He may have had a cold; his energy seemed off form recent performance. He may also be saving the big guns for the next two debates, with real issues — immigration — being on the table. The moderator was abysmal.

  47. “@ Cheap Trick – Are you more sure of Hillary’s “excellent health” than you were about Trump’s VP pick?”

    “Cheap Trick?” Classic rayyyycist vilification; can’;t debate on sound terms so degradate and amplify; i.e., nikcrit=tricknik=trickin’=trickdaddy=……Cheaptrick.

    And i never said HRC was in ‘excellent health;’ I just said the truth: that all the bad health speculation was mereliy thinly veiled partisan-induced Schadenfreunde; can you seriously say that’s not true?

    I saw the middle 45-minutes of the debate, missing bits of the beginning and end; i thought Trump was impressive in parts, and that one of the tactics that made that so was his alterating from attacking to actively EMPATHIZING with HRC in moments; it gave his swagger some complicating mitigative circumstance IMO…. but the early spin and deconstruction gathered from RCP.com seems to be leaning toward HRC as victor.

    Quick race-real personal anecdote; i watched the game and debate at a friend’s bar-restaurant, in a trendy 20s-30s hipster swpl district; he’s been having some probs with the staff, with a impromptu walkout tonight, so i wound up helping him out with a few nearby deliveries: the three nearbyhe customers, in the hear of hipsterism, were white and offered me generous tips 20-30%, which i refused except for the one cash order in which i couldn’t make change.

    The sole black customer, a bit west of Swippledom stiffed me. Didn’t even blink in the process…

  48. “The moderator was abysmal.”

    Hey, you weren’t impressed by that halfrican Republican arbitrator of our current political zeitgeist?

    Geez, that was cutting edge stuff!!!

  49. “Cheap Trick?” Classic rayyyycist vilification;

    You know what, I apologize. But I meant it in the band kinda way, not in the more vulgar sense lol:

  50. Nikcrit
    It’s not “racist”
    To call you “cheap trick”
    Especially
    When you’re so quick
    To stick to a script
    That amounts to nothing more
    Than a rerun clip
    If you want to be legit
    Then go ahead and spit
    Spat an attack
    That poses a being
    Fully intact
    As a matter of fact
    You’re so radically autonomous
    You think “racists”
    Only relative to “blacks”
    But “we” ain’t relatives
    No matter how jew quack
    It’s not about more
    Or what jew lacks
    It’s about a desire
    To fly relaxed
    And with jew niggers amongst “us”
    A nearly impossible task…

    But those who jew can’t resist
    Shall fly free at last…

  51. Last night made it very clear that Trump simply does not think like a politician. He missed so many openings where he could’ve attacked Hillary, and let her sidetrack him with the ad hominem attacks, which he should’ve just brushed off like a gnat and ignored.

    He’s got two more shots at improving, I don’t think he lost much (if any) ground last night. He did clearly make an effort to cut down on the eye rolling, though. Maybe his obvious shortcomings in strategy and rehearsed rhetoric will help convey sincerity and conviction in the next debate.

  52. Good stuff, PA.

    There’s always the knowing look, that subtle head nod of acknowledgement.

    As for the college girl in the subway car: I get similar here at work. Helps that I look more imposing by contrast to all the other schlubs here. It never gets old.

  53. I have not yet read any other takes on the debate, except the few comments here.

    Let’s just say it. Trump missed, big time.

    The one thing that went our way, is the drugged out stupid look on Hllary’s face, when she is not talking. Kind of the the gorilla in the room. Or is everyone so accustomed to people looking dazed drugged-out stupid and confused, that Hllary’s dumb-ass mug doesn’t glare so much?

  54. I was just browsing a sports article about how Peter Feigin, President of the Milwaukee Bucks, is patting himself on the back for building a new arena that he says he will help revitalize the inner city there. He goes on to say “very bluntly, Milwaukee is the most segregated, racist place I’ve ever experienced in my life. …”

    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/09/27/bucks-president-calls-milwaukee-segregated-racist-place/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs&yptr=yahoo

    That’s standard stuff (and I’m sure he lives in very close proximity to many NAMs himself) of course, but check out the first few comments!!

    Hey fan base – even though you are mostly just a bunch of low life racists……….don’t let that stop you from tuning in to Bucks hoops and overpaying for tickets, concessions and parking. We here at Milwaukee Bucks management will never discriminate when it comes to hosing our customers. Thank you for your cooperation. Sincerely, Pete
    sumkat September 27, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    No controversial at all. Everyone knows white people can’t be discriminated against, and have no right to be insulted about anything. They aren’t minorities after all
    eagles1960 September 27, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    White people should not attend any bucks games. See how he likes that. The guy is a flamer.
    bugboo48

    I think all whites should be deported to Europe where they came from. Take your bank accounts too.

  55. I don’t get looks on the subway. On the bus my nervous energy bugs people. But outside on the bike people stare at me all the time. Who is that?!

    Around here, you get a choice between two or three looks.

    Businessman. Traditional white collar. Some are fat and dumb-faced, and others are lean and well-dressed and look like shitlords.

    Tradesman, blue collar. A lot of these guys are very much for real. This is the Upper Midwest, and if you can’t install your own garage door opener, you are a ham. However plenty of these are slackers and strugglers not able to keep their nose on the grindstone. And also, a lot of the millennials who are going this route are young and untested and not hard, and not sure of themselves, and they don’t have the “Montana face”.

    Loser schlub fatso faggot nobody. This is the default for those falling off. Those who can’t cultivate their, uh, dignity. Shorts, an Affliction shirt (still), flips. And now in the Fall maybe a hoodie and sagging pants without a belt and stupid worn-out shoes.

    Adult-aged males (not men!) in these parts, which is Upper Midwest Metro, it breaks down along those three categories, maybe 20 / 40 / 40, or perhaps 15/ 35 / 50.

    But my complaint is that, if one does not want to stand out, those are your choices. God forbid you dress with any style. People will literally stop and stare, at someone in leather shoes and a collared shirt with a vest. Not that i resent it or anything, but it is pretty gay of the cultural milieu, that there is no “tolerance” for style. It is a Midwest Scandinavian thing. Also the suburbs. Also America.

  56. “Peter Feigin, President of the Milwaukee Bucks, is patting himself on the back for building a new arena that he says he will help revitalize the inner city there. He goes on to say “very bluntly, Milwaukee is the most segregated, racist place I’ve ever experienced in my life. …”…….. I’m sure he lives in very close proximity to many NAMs himself) of course, but check out the first few comments!!”

    I know, i saw when that broke yesterday and started laughing, knowing what kind of shitstorm and populist pushback his rap would generate. I’m always in a bit of disbelief when i hear about how Brewtown is ‘the most’ racist, ‘the most’ alcoholic, etc.; I just figure it’s a b-w rustbelt matrix, more or less like what you’ll find in Chicago (smaller black middle-and-upper-middle-class in Milwaukee though). I just figure my town is similar to, say, Cleveland and St. Paul and other mid-size major Midwestern towns in terms of how the mix of prole blacks and working-to-middle-class whites get along; I live in the major hipster gentrification area, near the lake and there is genuine interaction between younger and older whites and blacks—— all in an economic climate in which you can buy a three-bedroom house overlooking Lake Michigan for under 200K!!

  57. My job doesn’t have a dress code, which in many ways, it should. There’s something about wear good clothes and doing a good job that go hand-in-hand. I’m sure there have been studies on this–of which I’m recalling from memory here, so I might not be describing it correctly.

    Awhile back I changed my style, so that at best, I was always wearing a collared shirt, and had it tucked in. (I know some button-up shirts nowadays are designed to no be tucked in, but that’s just odd to me.) I follow the rule of thumb that if it has tails, tuck it in. And, always tuck in my polo shirts. I wear slacks and on occasion, jeans. But not the sagging kind–jeans that fit well and yeah, I’m showing off my bum for the ladies; well, I do like that my deadlifting is paying off too.

    And to that point: I think guys are so worried that if they are wearing jeans that are not sagging, that they fear they’ll be outed or labled as being gay. Or, they’re adopting the urban style of wearing pants like that, which is just plain stupid.

  58. The current American style is for both men and women to wear skinnypants with the heavy tapering all the way down. I’ll take sloppiness or baggy clothing over that effeminate method of dress any day.

  59. p.s.@Camlost,

    However predictable and easy a populist nitpik, a pet peeve of mine is the whole ritual and rigamorole process of the ‘publicly funded new arena or new stadium.” There’s the testing-the-waters part, where you know good and well what they want to pull off, but everyone acts all open and no-expectations-like about things; then there’s the obligatorry ‘objective commissioned study,” in which it’s invariably determined that a new stadium will pay off bigtime in new urban jobs and revenue, etc.
    Then the outright strong-arming of the taxpaying public begins, with aldermanic boards and other state and city wings of govt. blackmailed into uniform voting; finally the plutocrats —– in this case, two billiionaires from New York and the Netherlands (I believe) get what they planned long ago: a 50-50 tab on a new billion-dollar-plus facility, right next door to the horribly outdated 25-year-old Bradley Center arena next door, which will be razed even though it’s a perfectly fine arena today and could be for the next 20 years.

  60. p.p.s—–

    And the Bucks can’t sell out the Bradley Center, or even do anything close to that. Two or three years ago, i went with a buddy to see a pre-season Bucks game that went into double overtime; by the time the game was over, it was like seeing a high-school game in terms of empty seats —– a few hundred people in a venue with a 18,500 or so capacity.

    We need a team t hat can compete before we need a new stadium. And the Bucks wonder why people in Wisconsin care only about the Packers.

  61. Regarding city-funded stadiums (or is that stadia): it’s always funny to see the cheering fanatics clamor for a new stadium and/or support their team by following along with the “popular” sentiment of building a new stadium, then later to complain about the under-funded schools or pot-hole filled roads and the like. They just cannot put the two together. Well, maybe about, at most, 1% of them can, but they get drowned up by the drunken tards spending $10k on season tickets.

  62. @nikcrit: don’t they care more about the Badgers than even the Bucks? Especially this year since the Badgers are off to a great start?

  63. right next door to the horribly outdated 25-year-old Bradley Center arena next door, which will be razed even though it’s a perfectly fine arena today and could be for the next 20 years.

    Yes, but older arenas tend to lag on the newest innovations that drive corporate box seats and luxury revenue $$ so money rules the day, especially if that team threatens to move to another city. One of Jesse Ventura’s big fights when we was governor of Minnesota was him absolutely refusing to replace the Metrodome using even a dollar of corporate money, but the Vikings/Twins have a new home just recently built, I think.

  64. “@nikcrit: don’t they care more about the Badgers than even the Bucks? Especially this year since the Badgers are off to a great start?”

    Yes, that’s right. The sports hierarchy in Wisconsin goes as such: 1) Green Bay Packers; 2)UW Badgers football; 3) Milwaukee Brewers; 4) UW-Badger basketball; 5) Milwaukee Bucks….. There’s very little support for the Bucks outside of Milwaukee in this state. I’m pretty sure that Beloit, which is near Illinois border, generates supprot for Chicago teams.

  65. Small-market teams like the Bucks find it hard to attract a wide following without a devoted media outlet or TV network of their own that is carried on lots of cable packages. The Cubs have suc*ked royally for ages but have a huge national following because of WGN.

  66. PA…

    It blows my mind what you allow to transpire on this blog while needlessly eracing race real GIVENS that seem to be no such thing?

    IF YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW YOUR RACE as YOUR father (thus possessing a proper foundation for your understanding of Racism) then in what sense are YOU a real race realist IN THE LEAST BIT?

    IN OTHER WORDS, I am the only true race realist on here and you are eracing my race real lessons at the very point that this thread concerning “how we see each other” in this radically autonomous milieu devolves into the faggotty fan addict schism of professional sports…

    Clearly, professional sports WERE CONVERGED UPON MANY DECADES AGO by “alpha white coaches” who would treat those “black boys like one of their own.” I HAVE SEEN AND KNOW IT PERSONALLY.

    Why do Jews know their Race through their mothers?

    Who else poses this question?

    Does the answer make you too uncomfortable?

  67. [RR teacher]: “Can anyone fathom why the Jews understand their Race through her matriarchy?”

    [apt pupil]: “So that to her enemies… It MUST BE TOTAL ANNIHILATION.”

  68. As someone who couldn’t care less about sports, it is irritating when public money goes to fund a stadium. I don’t contribute much in taxes, so I can’t be too indignant. I’m just surprised they can justify it. There are many people completely uninterested in professional sports.

  69. The starting point of Race Realism is that your Race is your father.

    Short of this and there is no race realism.

    And per the reality of a radically autonomous society…

    THERE IS, in fact, NO RACE REALISM to be found EVEN AMONGST self-proclaimed “race realists” aka “racist” anti-white Supremacist, ie., high IQ radical “white” autonomists.

    This is truth.

  70. Ultimately though Lara… Their aim is have US throw the baby out with the bath water.

    An all-white SFL (segregated football league) JUST WOULD BE a better total product despite the only potentially legitimate claim of a less athletic game. This is exactly what an SFL could put to the test.

  71. Yes mendo…

    “Blacks” are down with the matriarchy… All the misogyny IS JUST MEDIA hocus pocus…

    Same for the homo… Cut a homo’s throat…. That’s how faggot niggers roll n role.

  72. Thor: “all-white SFL (segregated football league) JUST WOULD BE a better total product”

    All these years later and you’re still upset about not making it past that final round of roster cuts during training camp?

    Damn, dude; let it go! 🙂

  73. Lol… No Nikcrit… I was never that close although I was and still probably am a top 1%er athletic wise…

    My gripe is not with the GAME of American football… It is a truly white American contest of dynamic athletic prowess

    But with the charlatans who will have ruined it at the altar of “equality” under the guise of “black athletic supremacy.”

    The major professional sport leagues are now a public absurdity bulwarked by a mass of dull “whites.”

  74. “My gripe is not with the GAME of American football… It is a truly white American contest of dynamic athletic prowess”

    This magazine writer who was sort-of a unofficial mentor and inspiration to me when I was in grad school and a intern wrote a piece about the then-new NFL marketing director, a woman, which was a first. Anyhow, the segment of the piece that sorta went over the cultural history of the NFL and set a claim to its current state theorized that the game took hold in Cold War America because its goals and intra-team divisions (roles of various positions and units) echoed those thematically of corporate America writ large (i.e., the offensive line protecting the QB and runners, as well as the interdependence of a good line making for a more impressive resulting secondary —– all symbolized the division of labor of then-emerging national conglomerate corporation synergy that was necessary for the profits and to placate the shareholder, i,e. corporate ‘fans’, etc. I think he also even literally mentioned that said ‘division of labor’ duties was racially reflective, in which ‘purer’ black athleticism wasn’t as uniformly rewarded in football compared to how streamlined such racial abilities were in the NBA. At the time of his piece, the early-to-mid ’90s, you might recall that the NFL was in a freefall popularity-wise, while the NBA was skyrocketing in popularity, even though the Bird-Jordan-Magic apex of fandom propulsion was then winding down.

    Anyhow, those cultural clime changes, along with the focus of injuries, immediate and long-term, he theorized was also part of its then-demise. Ironically, the NFL has since resurged in popularity while i think the NBA’s has decreased or at least stagnated, though i could be wrong about that.

    I can’t really offer a solid theory or even a strong qualitative view, but to me the NFL just seems more proto-American in terms of its hazier appeal and fan ethos. Maybe that has something to do with it maintaining a strong and integral white representation to this very day.

  75. “As someone who couldn’t care less about sports, it is irritating when public money goes to fund a stadium. I don’t contribute much in taxes, so I can’t be too indignant.”

    Yeah, but it’s my understanding that such taxes are not so much levied through state income tax increases, but rather nipping property taxes with half-of-a-percent increases, alongside piecemeal grabs, like parking taxes and special-purchase taxes, etc. (excuse my likely informal terminology here; mos’ def’ not a finance major).

    And thart IS galling if you don’t care about pro sports. Even if it’s your husband or other family members who are taking the brunt of the plutocratic strong-arming.

  76. p.s.,
    my apologies for the ‘ready to go’ vid; could you repost or tell me which old post you put that ‘how to post vids with just the link appearing— not the imaage and start button like i did above?

  77. ….. I cut-n-paste the link in such cases. but about half the time, just the link appears, while the other half posts the ‘ready-to-go’ format like what appears above???

  78. Let me offer up a more race real theory for the fall and resurgence and NOW FALL of pro football…

    The game inexorably declined once college football was critically converged by “white” coaches WILLING to treat their “black” ball players as their very own sons. “We” then saw its resurgence once those “white” sons ACCEPTED their “equal” status as a matter of “liberation” (this is not my story, but I witnessed such grotesquerie). Now “we” shall see its decline again as the depths of betrayal are revealed MAINLY by these nigger ingrates and their sniveling “white” father coaches.

  79. I’m sure the people who run a sports franchise are also pretty good at wining and dining local politicians. I’m guessing that’s why they get what they get what they want.

  80. @ Nik – did you see the name of the actress who plays Mildred in “Loving”?:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4669986/

    Obama himself is constantly making reference to how his parent’s “marriage” would have been illegal in dozens of states, etc. etc. as if there would’ve even been a dime’s worth a difference since Obama Senior wasn’t around and was already married to at least one woman in Kenya.

    And I can’t wait until those three Emmett Till movies in production arrive in Theaters.

  81. The debate was rigged, and Hillary was giving signals to the the moderator Holt for him to cut off Trump when he was on a roll and bring it back to her to deliver scripted “zingers”.

    Watch this vid and and her signals to Holt could not be more obvious. The rubbing of the face and then the eye contact to the moderator.

    After a couple days reflection, Trump’s strategy seems to have been to play it cool, and let Hillary get in her best shots — and to hold off on his big hits until closer to Election Day.

  82. That video is conclusive evidence that the debate was rigged, and considering that, it shows that they will stop at no lengths to get their candidate into the Office.

    There will be massive fraud on election day. Trump will win the popular vote and any legitimate electoral count, but …

    It seems almost likely that Hillary will be declared winner. And evidence of fraud will be boiling over and spilling on the floor.

  83. Trump’s strategy seems to have been to play it cool, and let Hillary get in her best shots — and to hold off on his big hits until closer to Election Day. (Elk)

    That’s also emerged as consensus on other blogs’ debate open threads. That Trump is saving the firepower for later debates while Hillary is blowing her wad all at once. Remember Al Gore’s blisteringly aggressive performance in his first debate with W? Hillary came off like that as well. Scoring the nerd attack points while burning her “humanness” and likeability, whatever she had of those in the first place.

    Romney and Kerry also blazed out in their first debates, only to underperform in later ones.

    That said, Trump appeared under the weather and was clearly struggling with fatigue in the latter half of the debate.

  84. Trump’s the Tebow of politics. Middle linebacker playing QB. It goes over with the kids; the Mob wins their bets. Professionally it’s time for baseball. Pick up an oblique finesse on the fly. He will bunt-and-slide his way to the ivory desk.

  85. In the Loving trailer, the worst line is, “I love my wife.”. Any man going around telling everyone how much he loves his wife, probably doesn’t. He is looking for attention or to score points with some third party. It”s very likely he is cheating.

  86. My guess is there is more to this couple than a simple love story. They may have even been paid to marry and make it into a court case.

  87. My guess is there is more to this couple than a simple love story. They may have even been paid to marry and make it into a court case.

    The surname Loving would surely be all too symbollicly convenient. We now know that the Rosa Parks bus incident was staged. They got away with so much when they had media monopoly.

  88. Trump’s the Tebow of politics. Middle linebacker playing QB. It goes over with the kids; the Mob wins their bets. Professionally it’s time for baseball. Pick up an oblique finesse on the fly. He will bunt-and-slide his way to the ivory desk.

    This is quite the analogy. I like it.

    On the topic of Tebow, when he was Denver’s QB, there was a game, against the Jets I believe, where he just bulldozed his way for a TD to win the game. I mean, he just outwilled the other team. On a smaller note, it also looked like the Jets didn’t just give a damn, which Tebow probably picked up and figured why the hell not. It wasn’t a beautiful run, but I still remember it just because of the boldness and overpowering element to it.

  89. “That video is conclusive evidence that the debate was rigged,…”

    C’mon, elk! That video is hysterical, uneducated nonsense! (Trump contradicted himself several times in which conclusive and inscrutable video and audio proof confirms as much; it was bald-faced and embarrassing and, most of all, unnecessary!

  90. I doubt the debate was rigged. Clinton has years of experience with these things, Trump doesn’t. He didn’t hurt himself in the debate, he just didn’t wow anyone. I still support him.

  91. Before I wanted Clinton to win, but Trump to make a good show. Trump was too uncertain for me. I don’t feel that way anymore. I want Trump to win.

  92. The fact that Trump was more subdued in the debate makes me think he is listening to his supporters and trying to act more presidential. He is showing some humility and taking his job more seriously. I see it as a good thing.

  93. Another police-involved shooting of an Obama supporter today in California, and “the community” is protesting. If we keep getting 3 of these per week it’s going to help Trump immensely.

  94. RELOAD (PA, please disregard and delete my previous comment with confusing typos and omitted attribution)

    “He didn’t hurt himself in the debate,”

    I think he did hurt himself. He seemed petty at times. I would venture that if the candidates and their positions and histories were reversed, and Trump was the ‘globalist Dem,’ PA, for instance, and other Alt-Righters would say that Trump “looked petty and argumentative and ‘womanish’, ” in the way he tried wiggling out of contradictory statements and how he responded to particular criticisms leveled by HRC.

    But because he wasn’t the opposing candidate, he and others are biting their tongues; you noticed, no one (or not many at all, to be literal) are acting triumphant in the aftermath of the first debate. Rather, what was much more common today and yesterday were the conspiracy theories, a la sub_elk’s above claim, in which Holt/’the Jew media”/etc./ad.infinitum were CLEARLY fixing the debate in HRC’s favor.

    But then that could be me and my bias against 21st-century celebrity in play.

    In any case, it’s still early. Time will tell.

  95. if the candidates and their positions and histories were reversed, and Trump was the ‘globalist Dem,

    Nobody is rationalizing Trump’s performance as excellent. We all acknowledge that he looked tired and sometimes rambled. He isn’t an experienced debater in the lawyerly way Clinton is, as is also acknowledged.

    Nonetheless, it’s reasonable to say that he didn’t hurt himself. He made no gaffes and poll numbers are trending his way, unaffected by Monday night.

    As to the forum being rigged, fuck yeah. The only question is, was the moderator willingly colluding with Hillary’s team, or under duress.

  96. I’d say Dolt was colluding with the Hillary team and as such, was under duress.

    Harping on Trump that Trump supported the Iraq war and that there was evidence he had, and letting off Clinton who as a Senator voted for the war, is when I knew something was amiss.

  97. Per the video, it looks like collusion to me. Everyone gets their own opinion.

    I don’t argue with Hillary supporters because their biases are insane. I find it frustrating and pointless. Truly at this point, you can either be with us or against us.

    Trump is not a perfect man. And his debate performance is flawed. The criticism that he doesn’t speak in complete sentences is valid. All the parenthetical asides … what was the original subject?

    I am not much interested in evaluating his debate performance. Hillary’s performance was fixed. Anyone who doesn’t see that has blinders on. Same as with her health. You have people saying, on this very board, that her eyes going off in scattershot directions, is just a partisan interpretation of “mediated phrenology” …

    So basically “we” (as in say for example, Trickin vs. Sub_elk) are coming at things from two different perspectives.

    One of which happens to be reality-based.

    Hillary has neurological confusion, per the available video evidence. Her eyes doing that stuff has no other explanation. That is what the doctors will tell you. Basically the doctors allow for three explanations for criss-cross eyes like that, muscle malfunction is one, i forget the second, and the third is neurological; and the first two are ruled out because usually her eyes are in convergence so therefore the muscles do work.

    And as far as interpreting her gestures and eye contacts to the moderator, and the subsequent ball-passing (to her by him), … perhaps that is interpretable as “coincidence” but i say it is a clear case of hand-signals and then put together with her undeniably scripted on-topic zings? well two and two is four.

    And the rigged debate is part of the larger pattern. This is not a happening out of the blue, as if all along the media is fair and balance and then suddenly a rigged debate. The whole campaign and its coverage has been tricky as dick, and the rigged debate is a continuation of that.

  98. Here I’ve got to agree with our resident gadfly anti-conspiracist Trickdaddy.

    Harping on Trump that Trump supported the Iraq war and that there was evidence he had, and letting off Clinton who as a Senator voted for the war, is when I knew something was amiss.

    But Trump himself didn’t have the quick brains to say that himself. He’s got to be better. He should’ve parried that point very easily, and seized about 10 other opportunities he missed to stick it to Hillary. Plus he’s on record just before the war started as saying “perhaps Bush needs to wait to do anything” and then also railing against the war a few months into the occupation, while Hillary was still as gung-ho as ever.

    And if you’re going to collude, wouldn’t it be on something more logical than the Iraq War, back when Trump was a private citizen and Hillary was a hawkish cheerleader for the whole effort?

    And everything that Hillary said after those alleged face-scratching queues was all very standard stuff that he should’ve been able to dispatch with ease. They weren’t even the types of complex topics you’d need prep time to rebut or counterattack – just plain, vanilla, off-the-shelf Democratic bulls*it that we’ve been hearing for 8 years.

    While I don’t deny that Holt is an obvious Hillary supporter, doesn’t like Trump and would certainly do the bidding of the DNC if asked, it’s pretty weak to call this a conspiracy.

    But overall I think Trump did fine, all he had to do was normalize himself. Trump’s obvious lack of inexperience with personal attacks and lack of polish may actually help show him as someone with real conviction and commitment to ideas – Hillary’s obviously robotic regurgitations and obviously high level of rehearsal just reinforce her standing as a political lifer.

  99. And Hillary had no good answer for Trump on NAFTA and bringing back the manufacturing sector. The MSM didn’t seem to note that, but believe that the prole white voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio did notice.

    Her hysterical retort to Trump talking about Bill Clinton and NAFTA was some canned statistic about how manufacturing employment “actually climbed” under Bill Clinton as she trailed off to talk about other things very quickly.

    Also, when Hillary had the nerve to say something about Trump “not being as charitable as he claims” he only had to say “well, 96% of your charitable contributions are to your own foundation which you use to sell political influence and repay family and friends with big salaries.”

    And when Hillary had the nerve to talk about the middle class all Trump had to say is “what would you know about thie middle class, you haven’t driven a car yourself in over 25 years?”

    He can and will get better.

  100. Trump’s obvious lack of inexperience with personal attacks and lack of polish may actually help show him as someone with real conviction and commitment to ideas

    That’s a good point. Hadn’t thought of it that way.

  101. PA.
    Check this out from today’s Washington Post; i think it merits a O.T. gander up front and current.

    You call this and other stuff l ike it ‘concern trolling.” But i think it’s a valid to note that once a term ‘you and yours’ freely used to self-describe becomes filtered into the mainstream, it behooves ‘you and yours’ to guard its shape and mutating definition like you were defending your own life (which to an extent you are, etc.)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/09/26/these-charts-show-exactly-how-racist-and-radical-the-alt-right-has-gotten-this-year/?tid=pm_lifestyle_pop_

  102. From the Concern Troll’s article:

    As my colleagues and I found during a large-scale analysis of alt-right Twitter activity over the past nine months, the movement is growing measurably more radical, and possibly more inclined to violence.

    lulz

  103. “Tebow, when he was Denver’s QB, there was a game, against the Jets I believe, where he just bulldozed his way for a TD to win the game.”

    My top Tebow-magic moment was when he threw that fluke TD pass to win the O.T. divisional champsionship…… It bothers me to see Tebow racialized and claimed by hard factionists.

    He’s a uniter—— I mean, “he’s a gamer, he’s a baller and all he wants to do is win!”

    Lol…

  104. Nikcrit, pure garbage. Party-propaganda press release. Thing is, it’s over. Whites are not returning to their cheery workhorse toils of carrying a multicultural empire that abuses them. Even if coerced, we’re done believing in this shit show. We want our own country. This isn’t just the altright speaking, it’s all Whites. We see that Murka is becoming an open-air prison for us.

    The article, which is full of idiotic cherry picking and exaggerations, ends with boo-hoo references to rare racist crimes when niggers upload knockout videos daily, and under DOJ’s protecton, and muzz rpae kdis in Europe.

    Let the establishment publish those hysterical articles. We don’t care.

    AltRight has no central leadership or doctrine but if anyone in good faith wants to see a list of our core consensus, go to Vox Popoli. On his sidebar he has the Alt-Right 16 Points.

  105. As to OT comments, the only thing I ask for, and enforce at whim, is that comments be on topic under a new post on its first day.

  106. My top Tebow-magic moment was when he threw that fluke TD pass to win the O.T. divisional champsionship

    Fluke TD pass indeed! That has to be the ugliest throw for a TD to win a game.

  107. “The article, which is full of idiotic cherry picking and exaggerations,

    I agree. Still, whether it should or shouldn’t be, powerful media machines can besmirch in a nanosecond.

    It’s prudent to protect one’s name and public identity. Not all the rest of the country is as vested in Us-vs-Them as are you and your 99% white acculturization (sp?)

  108. Fluke TD pass indeed! That has to be the ugliest throw for a TD to win a game.

    Every pass he threw was ugly, usually with high flutter factor. He’s a better fit for the NFL of the 70’s where strength and the “winner” mentality was enough, but nowadays the pro QB position requires accuracy, high intelligence, anticipation and the ability to throw 40+ on-point passes per game with minimal interceptions.

  109. The media doesn’t have the credibility to besmirch anyone. What I mean by that is that sure, they can single someone out and destroy him, like they did with Zimmerman. But you see how arbitrary those character assassinations are. If they attacked Zim “for getting out of his car,” they can just as well attack any of us for writing something nice about Trump. So what’s the incentive to play it polite?

    After all, four years ago Romney was besmirched as “Hitler”.

  110. they can just as well attack any of us for writing something nice about Trump. So what’s the incentive to play it polite?

    And by the end of the week, with the US giving up control of the internet, this might happen more often than not, and I’d even go so far as to say with great rapidity.

  111. mendo, what exactly are you suggesting “might happen” with great rapidity? More censorship and politicized reprimand? By who? The govt? Globalist IT companies? Both?

    I’m literally asking; not quite clear in how you were responding to PA’s comment.

  112. Tebow’s “greastet” move will be his coming out of the closet thus revealing the entire media plot against him.

  113. With the Democratic party moving left so quickly this all unavoidable, especially as the MSM’s definition of “racism” expands as well. Not to mention the Democratic Party is scarcely able to conceal its vitriol for stale, pale males.

    Donna Brazile, the new DNC chair, was is known for making a “Don’t let the White boys win” comment a few years back:

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/25/dnc-interim-head-dont-let-white-boys-win/

    Can you imagine the RNC chairman getting away with any similar comment?

  114. If…

    Your concepts of “radical” and “racial” are ultimately relative…

    And all relations have broken down… The two entirely different perspective Elk speaks of… I’d say the perspective of the white Supremacist and the radical autonomist…

    Then YOU POSSESS NO CONCEPT of “radical” or “racial” worthy of impression.

  115. @nikrit

    Yes, the possibility for either more censorship or being reprimanded for, in PA’s example, saying something favorable about Trump.

    It could be similar to what’s happening in Europe and the UK, where online realtalk about the muzzie invasion is bringing authorities to the doorsteps of those doing the realtalk.

  116. I did an image search for the author of the Washington Post piece that nikcrit posted.

    He looks like Chris McCandless in the pictures he took of himself shortly before starving to death in Alaska.

    Physiognomy strikes again.

  117. Blacks are more territorial about their public spaces. They know that man is there to stir up trouble and then want him out.

  118. Blacks are more territorial about their public spaces.

    Blacks aren’t more or less territorial. All men are territorial by nature. Who do you think practiced Sundown Laws (they apparently still exist in some places) and restrictive covenants and separate accommodations and corss burnings and credible threats of lynching until the federal government made White, and only White, displays of territoriality a felony?

  119. They seem to keep their BLM activity in their own neighborhoods or center city areas. They know not to bring it into white residential areas. I’ve seen almost no evidence of it where I live. I see a lot of signs saying We Support Our Local Police around here. One local car dealership has a huge All Lives Matter painted on the window.

  120. “Uhhh…. No, Neat Trick.”

    I’ve noticed in recent weeks that Thor has been treating and referring to me as i’m some sort-of clandestine white-right saboteur; all my thoughts and utterances are part of the white self-annihilation master plan.

    Ahh, the perils of the Halfrican Journey to the Center of the Alt-Right Earth!

  121. Lara…

    Do not mistake reflexively primitive for clownishly territorial. If “black lives matter” did not exist as a memetic mind fugg then an “all lives matter” sign would elicit nothing in return from the various “black” suboptimal A.I. And likewise, the relatively dulled reaction of the “white” mass just goes to show how far the herd will tolerate the vulgar conceit of its most primivite aspect.

    Nikcrit…

    I maintain that you are radically autonomous and “we” can only speculate as to when and where you are aware of such a radically autonomous state and when and where you are completely unaware.

    And because there is no Conception without Perfection…

    Those who seek to destroy any and all notion of objective Supremacy UP TO the inclusion of The Perfect Man are terminable absolutely.

    A self-annihilator IS EVIDENCE of just this ^^^ sort of terminable individual.

  122. Spot on WRT female suffrage. They are idiots on any matter not related to their immediate needs. If MSM tell them a candidate is unfashionable, they won’t vote for him. What you saty is right – they fall in line with dominant ideology, no sense for the story behind the headlines. White sluts will ensure the witch destroys the race that created America if nice Mr Cohen tells them that one man is guilty of his psychobabble creation – (((ism))).

  123. I think the behavior of the black men in the video is reasonable. That man does not deserve a brutal beating, just enough intimidation to leave. A police officer would likely tell him to do so.

  124. Lara – agreed. The ‘experimenter’ is out of his element. I’d personally ignore him with either sign, and maybe give him a beat down myself if he was too persistent.

  125. “…ensure the witch destroys the race that created America…”

    Many contemporary witches believe they are nuns, and vice-versa.

  126. There’s nothing surprising about what happened, but there’s nothing “reasonable” about their behavior. If some liberals were burning or stomping on an American flag in public would we look at it the same way if some white conservatives delivered a beating? The government sure wouldn’t approach it the same way, and we know which act would get prosecuted to the full extent + a “hate crime” kicker added to the sentence.

    But one thing about their behavior you should note – it’s no different than the way they treat each other. In the hood if someone says something you don’t like, the shirts come off quick and the “oppressed” are ready to fight in an instant at the slightest perceived provocation.

  127. I find it useful to look at people would act if they lived in a primitive tribe, like their ancestors thousands of years ago. We all act out our racial nature when the compromises and pressures of civilization are loosened. You and I would react like a one of our ancient Visigoth ancestors. Blacks? A whole different universe in their skulls. To be crude about it, it’s African jungle all the way down and we can’t relate to each others’ “moral laws” when we cross paths when at least one side feels free to act on his primitive impulse.

  128. “We all act out our racial nature when the compromises and pressures of civilization are loosened. You and I would react like a one of our ancient Visigoth ancestors. Blacks? A whole different universe in their skulls. To be crude about it, it’s African jungle all the way down and we can’t relate to each others’ “moral laws” “

    Not to pick a fight that I cannot focus on until tonight, but what you said in the above comment is very vulnerable to historical and biological critique and argument.

  129. But a black hoaxer would not have been arrested at all for this same thing, methinks (Camlost)

    Unequal protection under the law is a given at this point. It’s blown up, under Obama’s second term, into a full-blown farce for justice. This is why Whites are psychologicaly divorcing themselves from america.

    It always was an either-or: equal enforcement with disparate impact vs. disparate enforcement with equal outcome.

  130. It always was an either-or: equal enforcement with disparate impact vs. disparate enforcement with equal outcome.

    A lot of Americans do not understand the very crucial concept of disparate impact.

    if the power and government enforcement of that concept continues (and is extended to more protected groups beyond just blacks) it will engender a huge growth in white hostility towards central government.

  131. A lot of Americans do not understand the very crucial concept of disparate impact.

    Not only do they not understand, they probably have never even heard or it or the SC decision regarding it.

    But, coming soon to a white neighborhood near them.

  132. To understand the insidiousness of “disparate impact,” one needs to visualize both the “nigger” and the “microaggression” of “shopping while black.”

    You “see,” one CANNOT CLAIM that another individual “looked at me FIRST” and be CREDIBLE as it is humanly impossible to know if someone else has looked at you BEFORE you have looked at them (which is a must to claim that they are unreasonably eye-balling you in the first place). The best one can assume is that both looked at the other at exactly the same time (the nod to egalitarianism). But the REAL AIM is to psychological program whites to never eye-ball the nigger so much so that the nigger who loots in Charlotte while everybody and nobody is eye-balling him all at the same time is actually non-existence in the first place. It’s all zeitgeist manufactured. The disparate impact is a ruse. It says, “we can see things that you white boys can’t see and those things you claim to see are just the irrational delusion of our manufacturing.”

    “Don’t look at me white boy while Irape and pillage right in front of your eyes and your friends and family will say it ain’t so…”

    This is real ^^^ disparate impact.

  133. I agree, their behavior is not reasonable, but it isn’t surprising either. I’ve known white people who have been ordered out of black neighborhoods because it was too risky to be there. I guess that is in violation of their rights, but I think most white people understand it is for their own safety.

  134. I’ve noticed many blacks seem to have trouble understanding the rights and freedom they enjoy also apply to other people. A good example would be the Halloween costume issue at Yale University.

  135. You “see,” one CANNOT CLAIM that another individual “looked at me FIRST” and be CREDIBLE as it is humanly impossible to know if someone else has looked at you BEFORE you have looked at them (which is a must to claim that they are unreasonably eye-balling you in the first place).

    Damn, this has a quantum physics/Schrödinger’s cat element to it. Nice.

  136. Damn, this has a quantum physics/Schrödinger’s cat element to it. Nice.

    Yes it does.

    It might be fun to sperg out on the riddle … but that would be missing the point.

  137. A lot of Americans do not understand the very crucial concept of disparate impact.

    if the power and government enforcement of that concept continues (and is extended to more protected groups beyond just blacks) it will engender a huge growth in white hostility towards central government.

    Obama keeps repeating the canard that “blacks are arrested at twice the rate as whites,” without ever putting that into the context of overall crime rates. He even said this at the memorial for the assassinated Dallas cops, of all places. But do you ever hear him complain that blacks get arrested at a MUCH higher rate than Asians? Isn’t that an even greater disparity? And if it is unfair that blacks are arrested more than whites, then why isn’t it unfair that whites are arrested more than Asians? Doesn’t that show a disparity that needs to be remedied? But of course he does not say any of this, because it isn’t about fairness, it’s about attacking white people.

    Anyway, Obama is a smug little shit with a messianic complex that was fueled by excessive white liberal ass kissing. Believe me, I know the type well. Even if Hillary wins, at least she is far too cynical to believe all the anti-racist bullshit she spews to get the black vote and let’s hope there is some last vestige of maternal-tribal instinct that will restrain her from going full anti-white, although her only daughter did marry a wall street jew.

  138. — let’s hope there is some last vestige of maternal-tribal instinct that will restrain her from going full anti-white

    Interesting perspective. It hasn’t crossed my mind. I’m reflexively cynical about it though, as it seems to me stakes for us are higher with her than with Obama, simply because the current president is so clearly a puppet who has little interest in the game, while she is more of a principal player.

    One of the thoughts I have is part of the recent Working Class Heroes post, that even the elites can’t survive long term without the buffer of a White working class. Of course childless ghouls like Merkel have no skin in the game, while Hillary may still have a shred of decency through Chelsea.

  139. — let’s hope there is some last vestige of maternal-tribal instinct that will restrain her from going full anti-white

    Interesting perspective. It hasn’t crossed my mind. I’m reflexively cynical about it though, as it seems to me stakes for us are higher with her than with Obama,

    Yes, she does – Bill and Hillary were actually regarded as “centrist” once and were affiliated with the “blue dog” moderate-to-conservative Democrats. But she doesn’t even realize what she’s set in motion herself – a rapidly browning Democratic party will lose all sense of compromise and restraint going forward after her career is over.

    Compare the Democratic agenda of 1994 to today. Only 20 years ago Hilary herself talked about black “super predators” or building walls on the Mexican border, and didn’t even come full out for gay marriage herself until around 2009. As late as 2008 both her and Obama were still saying “I still see marriage as strictly between a man and a woman.”

    And I think she believed these things at the time, but the new nature of leftism is to never be able to compromise – they have no experience doing it. When have lefties, liberals, blacks, gays, Mexicans, miscellaneous tropicals and other assorted fruits and nuts ever sat down and compromised on anything of significance and which actually led to progress? They’re the party of soft matriarchy – the inability to ever say “NO” and a first instinct to always look to a “magic wand” solution for every problem – and African “it takes a village” squalor is the ultimate result of that type of society.

    White patriarchals have been compromising since the magna carta, through peace treaties, constitutions and political caucuses even til today. They know how to make hard decisions, and abide by them.

    After Hilary there’s going to be within the Democratic ranks as blacks and Hispanics demand only non-white candidates for high office. And think about how much time Hillary and Bill have spent kissing black a*ss to earn political patronage for the last 30 years – white Democratic candidates following her won’t have that track record and the “black party” won’t view them as legitimate.

  140. “We all act out our racial nature when the compromises and pressures of civilization are loosened. You and I would react like a one of our ancient Visigoth ancestors.

    Not to pick a fight that I cannot focus on until tonight, but what you said in the above comment is very vulnerable to historical and biological critique and argument.

    Let’s hear it, Trickin !!

    As a prelude to that, this guy is at least the 7th or 8th black person I’ve personally known to be arrested for murder. Most were from my high school or hometown. I just tried to find this former friend on Facebook and voila:

    http://www.wltz.com/story/17861288/phenix-city-shooting-suspect-arrested-in-harris-co

  141. In other words, the new generation of mostly NAM post-Hillary Democrats will be shrill, shrieky, loud, emotional and always enraged after being conditioned to think that anything they don’t like about the universe is due to “oppression” that can only be corrected with a government solution.

    Good governance in the West doesn’t work in this “groupthinkery” style of the #hashtag generation – the brutal reality is that you sit down in long, ugly sessions and make nasty, often unappealing compromises after politicians of every denomination then drop all of the “holier than thou” idealism and roll up their sleeves and get things done. Bill Clinton was a master of that, Hillary less so but she’s still a realist and does make inroads with conservatives. (often over drinking sessions, they say)

    Despite what Trickin’ thinks, warfare, secession and open conflict are not out of the cards, even within the next 100 years.

  142. I would suggest that relatively well-to-do Arkansans who only birth ONE DAUGHTER to be highly suspicious. It’s hard for us “breeders” to recognize such strict “family planning” as anything other than simply nefarious.

  143. Most “whites” are not race real. And even those “whites” who are nominally race real such as Lara are only so largely from a “prey” point of view. Only when the Other PERCEIVES YOU as a rival “predator” can you really see race real. It is only when you are a viable threat does the Other show his real race. When you are mere “prey,” the Other can show you anything. When you are a white “predator,” what MUST the Other show you?

  144. If I were Trump… I would ask Hillary how many abortions she has consented to so that “we the people” can know how many times she has executed the “good” in her most “fundamental right?”

    And I would follow-up with a clarification of her explicit stance on the American white man’s right to bear arms?

  145. Camlost: you see what I see as well — libs don’t find a “resting place” where politics end. For them politics, which is power acquisition with no notion of compromise, doesn’t stopped until it’s stopped. Or until it devolves to a joke under the best case scenario.

  146. PA…

    You could convert to wS in an instant…

    If you so choose.

    First though, you must see your “race” as your father and then seek to understand the proper conception of racism… And then anti-racism. It’s not “relative.” And certainly not relative to “blacks” or Jews or jihadists or miggers or homodykes. The LIBERATED MANNER in which “they” conceive “race” is the very manner in which they justify and rationalize self-annihilation and the self-annihilation of the white race… THROUGH a hidden and obscure hate for the father… And escaping from the fatherland sometimes indicates this hate.

  147. Thing is PA…. As a white Catholic, YOU ARE ALREADY AN AVOWED white Supremacist… And so when you go and deny this “accusation” under the heckle of a radlib then you ACTUALLY DECONVERT from race-real Roman Catholicism.

  148. Camlost: you see what I see as well — libs don’t find a “resting place” where politics end. For them politics, which is power acquisition with no notion of compromise, doesn’t stopped until it’s stopped. Or until it devolves to a joke under the best case scenario.

    As Moldbug argues, Cthulu always swims left because the nature of the left is to spread power downwards and outwards — and everyone wants a piece. This is why male to female trannies who want to use the little girls room are more powerful than the North Carolina governor at the moment.

  149. “Interesting perspective. It hasn’t crossed my mind. I’m reflexively cynical about it though, as it seems to me stakes for us are higher with her than with Obama, simply because the current president is so clearly a puppet who has little interest in the game, while she is more of a principal player.

    One of the thoughts I have is part of the recent Working Class Heroes post, that even the elites can’t survive long term without the buffer of a White working class. Of course childless ghouls like Merkel have no skin in the game, while Hillary may still have a shred of decency through Chelsea.”

    One fundamental element I noticed in your broad alt-right construct and foundations: you assume forethought malice upon Merkel and these globalists; but they in fact could easily be simply naive: globalist economy driven but avid believers in universal communion and socialization with that ‘universal humanity’ also, not so coincidentally, beings conditioned through pop mediation to become the heavily populated consumption units to all the various globalist content, whether virtual or real material; the new NAM majority are the purchasing units that make the markets sing. (And Merkel is the perfect example of the ghostface killah, ‘enervated elite’ stuck in “is that all there is?” melancholy —— the figure I repeatedly insist exists to you and MGE and others; the elite enervated WASP is no strawman trope, dudes. it’s the strivers and the rejects that comprise dissident movements, exceptions however duly noted.

    I remember joking with my features and entertainment dept secretary at my paper back in the day; whenever i had to write about in-line square dancing, retro bars and lounges made popular by “Swingers,” American Idol and the initiation of national prime-time talent shows. I used to say to this secretary whom I often shared and commisserated with: “Who the F buys all the crap?”
    And she invariably replied: “White goy middle-class America; they’re the big demo and they’re the ones who have to believe in order to keep the wheiels of production in motion and everything else that follows —— including us with our coverage and analysis of the mainstream’s downtime pleasures!” She was funny and it was offered in the vein of jest, but she is right.

    That was the role of the white mainstream 20-30 years ago; and now a more diverse cast of NAMs is set to comprise the new majority, hence all the internationally cast sit-coms and their cucking of the WASP male. it’s sick. It’s stupid. but it’s not permanent.

  150. And one thing I’ve noticed about you, Nikcrit, is the neat trick you always unpack when the attack is on a blatant dyke with a knack to knock a white man back.

    If Hillary was recognized as the blatant dyke that she is as signaled by her high regard for Merkel then such “insight” as this would not so much sway the “women.”

    #punchdykeswithtruth

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