“The Reeling Wheel of the Seasons”

Human nature makes history cyclical. Technological progress is linear though, and so it would seem that technological advances should override history’s persistent retrograde patterns in favor of linear progress. However, the technological arms race is driven by men and we are subject to our nature, and that makes technology’s entanglement with human affairs a cyclical function as well. This is why Detroit’s production of flying cars is behind schedule.

There are now more cars but less smog in Los Angeles than thirty years ago. The nuclear bomb eliminated conventional wars between large states. Governments today have better technical means of killing their own people than they did 80 years ago, yet due to mass media’s ability to disseminate awful images, you can’t have Cheka committees butchering the European countryside anymore. Instead, civilian pacifications have become Stone Age again, with Somalian visitors groping girls in Stockholm while a caveman’s weapon — a baseball bat and the will to swing it — disperses them.

There are satellites and drones, but drone operators have families in unguarded houses. The state used the television to brainwash its citizens but later citizens used the internet to knock down that totem.

The decadence-drift of the elites: a generation or more after a faction seizes power and secures the collaboration of its mercenary classes, its successors lose faith in their original mission and turn to short-term opportunism. The ruled populations, concurrently, lose faith in the founding mythology that legitimizes the elites’ rule. Martin Trayvon King wut? Today’s liberal voter now clings to that last plank of the Civil Rights revolution, pervs in bathrooms.

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In his 1981 – 82 series of Harvard lectures that he published under the title The Witness of Poetry, Czesław Miłosz shares his own reflections on history. His 1980 poem “Bypassing Rue Descartes” appears in that volume, and I include it at the end of this post. He provides autobiographical context for the poem:

In my youth [c. 1930], apprentices of poetry, if they came from the blank spots on the map, had to undergo a short or longer period of training in Paris. That was the case with me […] Arriving in Paris as a young man, I later had many opportunities to wonder at the contrast between the radical changes occurring in myself and in my geographic zone to the east of Germany, on the one hand, and the perfect stability and the continuity in the life of la ville lumière on the other. Half a century later I wrote a poem on that subject, which better explains what I just said than does my prose.

He also ties “Bypassing Rue Descartes” to the current events at the time of writing this:

Though universal ideal long ago lost their appeal for those of us from [Vilnius], Warsaw, or Budapest, this does not mean that they lost their appeal everywhere. The young cannibals who, in the name of inflexible principles, butchered the population of Cambodia had graduated from the Sorbonne and were simply trying to implement the philosophic ideas they had learned. As for ourselves, since we had seen firsthand what one achieves by violating, in the name of doctrine, local mores (that is everything which grows slowly, organically, for centuries), we could only think with horror about the absurdities haunting the human mind, indifferent as it is to the repetitive character of blunders.

A water snake appears at the end of the poem that follows. As Miłosz’s explains in The Witness of Poetry, the water snake was considered holy in his native Lithuania, a pagan belief that persisted in Europe’s last nation to become Christianized. The poem:

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“Bypassing Rue Descartes” by Czesław Miłosz

I descended toward the Seine, shy, a traveler,
A young barbarian just come to the capital of the world.

We were many, from Jassy and Koloshvar, Wilno and Bucharest, Saigon and Marrakesh,
Ashamed to remember the customs of our homes,
About which nobody here should ever be told:
The clapping for servants, barefooted girls hurry in,
Dividing food with incantations,
Choral prayers recited by master and household together.

I had left the cloudy provinces behind,
I entered the universal, dazzled and desiring.

Soon enough, many from Jassy and Koloshvar, or Saigon or Marrakesh
Would be killed because they wanted to abolish the customs of their homes.

Soon enough, their peers were seizing power
In order to kill in the name of the universal, beautiful ideas.

Meanwhile the city behaved in accordance with its nature,
Rustling with throaty laughter in the dark,
Baking long breads and pouring wine into clay pitchers,
Buying fish, lemons, and garlic at street markets,
Indifferent as it was to honor and shame and greatness and glory,
Because that had been done already and had transformed itself
Into monuments representing nobody knows whom,
Into arias hardly audible and into turns of speech.

Again I lean on the rough granite of the embankment,
As if I had returned from travels through the underworlds
And suddenly saw in the light the reeling wheel of the seasons
Where empires have fallen and those once living are now dead.

There is no capital of the world, neither here nor anywhere else,
And the abolished customs are restored to their small fame
And now I know that the time of human generations is not like the time of the earth.

As to my heavy sins, I remember one most vividly:
How, one day, walking on a forest path along a stream,
I pushed a rock down onto a water snake coiled in the grass.

And what I have met with in life was the just punishment
Which reaches, sooner of later, the breaker of a taboo.

(translated by Renata Gorczynski and Robert Hass)

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103 thoughts on ““The Reeling Wheel of the Seasons”

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  2. “There is no capital of the world.”

    Nor can there be. Such a simple beautiful intuitive truth. Who wants to live in an airport lounge?

    Classic lit is a huge secret weapon for us. It is also great for a bit of perspective and for fighting against the internal black pill.

    I would be curious to know what other authors you read, PA (and commenters).

  3. Very well…

    But talking about “human nature” WHEN WE SHOULD BE talking about WHITE MAN’S Nature… Or even Polish man’s nature… I don’t know? Stinks like obscurantism.

    Does anyone tell that white boy what he is going to have to do minute by minute, day by day, decade after decade that goes beyond being true to your human nature?

    Sometimes, fatherhood softens the white man. You have to be aware of this tendency at this point. You have to teach relentlessness BECAUSE no one else does.

  4. What is conspicuously missing from the account is any particular racial/ethnic acknowledgement. It is much like modern media where “we” know racial/ethnic things by omission.

  5. — I would be curious to know what other authors you read, PA (and commenters). (Nozdryov)

    I’m re-reading my old paperback of Milosz’s “Native Realm.” It’s an autobiography and a first-hand account of pre-WWII years. As I recall, he gets to his experience during the war later in the book as well. He’s not entirely a congenial figure. He was a Leftist, with strong contempt for nationalism and a problematic relationship with his countrymen, both as a player in historic events and as a literature scholar. On the latter, he was deeply appreciateive of Polish literature as a whole (he wrote a huge and very valuable volume about it, and it’s on my shelf as well) but he thought less of Henryk Sienkiewicz on ideological grounds. Victorian novelist Sienkiewicz is famous and beloved for his historic epics, and for his timeless boys’ adventure novel “In The Desert and Wilderness,” which I wrote about in “A Short Post About Killing.”

    Milosz was not a Jew — in fact, he was of aristocratic Polish descent, but he was a Judeophile and he made it clear. He was a clear example of Sigma personality. It’s a fascinating memoir. I had read most of his books and poems 20 years ago and it is rewarding to re-read them now.

    Back in 1999 when I first read “Bypassing Rue Descartes,” my environs then in Boston — and the West more broadly — matched well with his description of 1930 Paris in the poem. His writing is a different experience now that we are seeing history’s tremors around us.

  6. Something that struck me, referring to Milosz’s “sigma” personality, and this is apropos our contemporary lingo and such: there was an “alpha” (or sigma) aristocratic air to embracing Leftism from 100 years ago through quite recently — up until the early 2000s even. Milosz certainly carried it, and whether genuine like in his case, or as an affectation, Leftism was cool.

    There was a polarity flip recently though. Maybe it is a mass psychological adjustment to History’s latest turn, maybe it’s the reversal of establishment/rebel model — but the leftist cool is a spent force. It’s now the time of the Shitlord.

  7. Hottie invites me over to watch football.

    I’m like, nah, I’m watching the shitshow in Charlotte.

    Pass the Skittles.

    Resting Shitlord Face.

  8. We were many, from Jassy and Koloshvar, Wilno and Bucharest, Saigon and Marrakesh,
    Ashamed to remember the customs of our homes.
    — Milosz

    There is this ^^^ and yet it really speaks nothing to the existential war that white Americans face today. And it shouldn’t, of course, necessarily be able to, but this was your intent. Those proper nouns above are just alien to most American GenXers and those after. What is Milosz supposed to be telling “us?” That he came to a magical place to rape and pillage it? “We” have a whole different beast on our hands.

  9. Anything that’s timeless speaks to us, like that 17th century Donne sermon in the previous post. It’s too early to tell if a contemporary poem has timeless value but I think that one does for our purposes.

    Milosz was describing, and counting himself among, sons of colonial or provincial elites who visited Paris to transform themselves, and sometimes their own countries with disastrous results, into what they thought was the West’s beautiful universal ideals. He may have been alluding to Marxism.

    They were students, rather than migrants or invaders. That is exactly the opposite of how the current rape of the West is playing out. The poem arrives at an epiphany that neither the West is nor anything else offers anyone universal values and that it is a “heavy sin” to destroy anything organic or particular to any nation in the name of rationalism.

  10. Unless some trends reverse the wheel of time will crush right over most Western culture.

    At universities all around the US they are removing busts of founding fathers due to them having been slaveowners. It won’t be long before Shakespeare is excised from high school curricula, due to how he treated Othello or Shylock and to make way for more “vibrant” authors. (since teaching Langston Hughes or Franz Fanon in his place will lift black test scores immediately)

  11. The Universities who do that are going to lose appeal to more conservative minded people. There are many conservatives in this country, and plenty of them send their kids to college. Certain universities already have a reputation of being more conservative. They will be the ones these people choose to support.

  12. “At universities all around the US they are removing busts of founding fathers due to them having been slaveowners. It won’t be long before Shakespeare is excised from high school curricula, due to how he treated Othello or Shylock …..”

    I’ve already heard or read about practical ideas to get rid of or ‘curb’ certain Shakespeare plays; many schools have all but done that, particularly those that aren’t under media scrutiny or that from local authorities with budgeting powers. Or, places with civic structures and oversight that aren’t particularly mindful of curriculum debates. Trust that some of the ‘local boards’ that have real budgetary oversight duties would not be able to intellectually process this overall concept, let alone its attendant debates and controversies.

    Some of you raycist critiques give more credit than is due merely by projecting your ‘aggregate-observed-level” abilities onto others. lolzz.

  13. Many liberals like to see themselves as special little snowflakes being persecuted by the big, bad majority. In order to maintain that illusion, you would always have to be in the minority.

  14. Some of you raycist critiques give more credit than is due merely by projecting your ‘aggregate-observed-level” abilities onto others. lolzz.

    Not sure what you mean by that but I’ve been expecting to hear about the entire Great Lakes’ electrical grid going down with the giant 10 million megawatt projector you’ve been running up there in the past week…

  15. — It won’t be long before Shakespeare is excised from high school curricula (Camlost)

    There was some of that in the early 90s, with PC academic attacks on the Western canon. Shakespeare as such comes in and out of fashion in cycles. If I recall correctly, he was out of favor either with the neoclassical critics like Samuel Jonson or later in the Victorian era.

    There is a more nefarious thing such as with Google when explicitly White or European search terms produce obscure non-White figures frontloading results of searches like “american innovators” or “european writers.” Nikcrit alluded to the historic deja-vu yesterday. I remember this kind of historical falsification under Communism, where the truth about, or even a menation of Katyn was forbidden. Also, it was considered very politically incorrect to use the word “Russian” when referring to the USSR. You were supposed to say “Soviet” instead. Even when you were talking about pre-Soviet figures such as Dostoevsky, the use of the word “Russian” felt vaguely un-PC, like saying “Negro” is awkward today even in a neutral context (for example, if you were quoting an old text or acronym.)

  16. There is a more nefarious thing such as with Google when explicitly White or European search terms produce black results such as obscure non-White figures frontloading results of searches such as “american innovators” or “european writers.”

    George Washington Carver never wrote down a single formula but gets described as a “scientist.”

  17. Cam, my revised and hopefully more cogent observation:

    “Iroinically, some of these rayyycist alt-right critiques of leftist claims and demands give more credit than is due by projecting your own mental flexibilities onto ‘others’ and ‘others’ agendas —- but that’s not always a given; in fact, I’d say it’s rare. lolzz. “

  18. Russians have an inferiority complex to Poles. That’s probably why it hurt for a Pole to notice they were in fact a Russian.

  19. I don’t know about that. Back then the reason was to deemphasize the national nature of the USSR in favor of seeing it as a “fraternal union of free nations,” as per the lyrics of the Soviet anthem.

  20. Russians have an inferiority complex to Poles. That’s probably why it hurt for a Pole to notice they were in fact a Russian.

    Russians have an inferiority complex to no one. Russians are known as Great Russians, in the Slavic Kingdom, if i recall my history books, and everyone else is their little brothers. Now Slavs can correct that mis-info, if it be such.

    Russians used to have an inferiority complex to Americans. But then after the freeze-out was over, they found out what was actually going on here.

  21. Indifferent as it was to honor and shame and greatness and glory,
    Because that had been done already and had transformed itself
    Into monuments representing nobody knows whom,
    Into arias hardly audible and into turns of speech.

    *****************

    I like that line a lot. Very fatalistic. Shadows and dust in the wind.

    It is not quite that time of year, however.

  22. — Russians are known as Great Russians, in the Slavic Kingdom, if i recall my history books, and everyone else is their little brothers. (Elk)

    That is very much Russian attitude when in imperial mode. The Czars saw Catholic Slavic nations as wayward Westernized little brothers. Russification of Poland under the Russian partition in the 19th centry was a project they took seriously.

  23. Happy Friday, gents. Did some lifts and naked power squats this morning. Feeling wonderful.

    I’d like to write more, perhaps professionally again, but I simply don’t have the fucking time.

  24. Here are some: that stick out:

    Evelyn Waugh
    Ian Fleming
    Tolkien
    Junger
    Simon Raven
    Alec Waugh
    Patrick Leigh Fermor
    Kingsley Amis
    Kipling
    Anthony Powell
    Henry Green

    I went through an intense English Romantic phase when I was 17 or 18,. This coincided with my first love. Fucked me up for a bit.

    I have a large collection of African colonial military history books, some of them quite rare, as well as African travel and hunting.

  25. Thomas Hobbes is fascinating reading. Modern critics don’t know to classify him as a liberal, conservative or both nowadays. He was shockingly far ahead of his time in his ability to be free of emotion and sentiment. Some people were so put off by his alleged “atheism” that they blamed the great plague and fear in London on him in his very old age, saying it was a divine judgment.

  26. And I don’t read much modern or non-western writers but Salman Rushdie is pretty good reading, especially “Midnight’s Children.” He’s the one that got death threats from the Ayatollah and other Muslim leaders for writing “The Satanic Verses.”

  27. Based V.S. Naipaul is probably the only non-White writer I still read. I highly recommend him. Shitlord.

  28. I think Poles are smarter and more competent than Russians. They were probably only able to dominate them just because there were so many more Russians and the USSR did not value the lives of its own people. Apparently, toward the end of communism the USSR was bribing the Poles to stay. I don’t know enough about it, but I definitely don’t think Russians are in any position to be ruling over Poles.

  29. I was reading about the Pitt-Jolie kids. Supposedly, Zahara is a real handful. Permissive Hollywood parenting and African genetics is a bad combination.

  30. @PA,

    I agree with the core thrust of this post, but I mean that literally, sober reality and all in time for its near-future forecast.

    Meaning, some of the p.c.-conceits of prog’merica, or whatever, will be rescinded with appropriate gusto—— but at the same time some of the old racial hierarchal pillars have been leveled for good (call that a successful result of the NABALT lobby, in effect 40-plus years and counting).

    Basically, keep in mind your own terminology; human interaction patterns are cyclical, and indeed western technological innovation is linear; as is my wont i’ll see once more that this here very forum —— blog posts and commentary ——- exemplifies recent technology making inter-ethnic communication possible in a way that was not at all common or barely possible a mere 20 years ago.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same; IMO, that literally could be said IOW that people will be people while western innovations keep the chatter novel.

  31. “I highly recommend him. Shitlord.”

    I admire Naipaul for being among the relatively few NAM writers who writes about racial and ethnic cultural matters and who acknowledges, essentially, HBD facts of life, yet whose criticisms AND love of his own and fellow NAMs is free of the omnipresent anti-racist cant and qualification; he loves his people, because……. he loves his people! Unfortunate evident truths be damned!

    Actually, the more typical modern-day ‘activist’ name authors, a la Coates and whatever fall flavor comes onto the vanguard next year, imply that if it weren’t for some nasty ‘ism ‘ being inflicted upon thy people then they wouldn’t be WORTHY of the fealty they feel or have. That’s the clear implication you get from all the half-assed polemicists, anyway IMO

  32. “There was some of that in the early 90s, with PC academic attacks on the Western canon. Shakespeare as such comes in and out of fashion in cycles. If I recall correctly, he was out of favor either with the neoclassical critics like Samuel Jonson or later in the Victorian era.”

    Really it’s the pre-Samuel Johnson Neo-Classical period, where Shakespeare is an ambiguous literary barbarian giant in the eyes of Francofied readers. Jacques Barzun in “From Dawn to Decadence” reflects this attitude: he clearly thinks Shakespeare grossly overrated.

    There was an analogous discussion yesterday at Vox Day, about HS reading. Hemingway, at least in short story, is a great writer; Faulkner, though I rate him less highly today than in my youth, a worthy successor in the Melville tradition. Fitzgerald is a “major minor” at best, and The Great Gatsby is horribly plotted and, as it often pointed out, Gatsby’s obsession is terribly “beta”; but the prose is very fine, and it’s an inescapable piece of Americana at this point. Steinbeck really is crap and, if not for HS curricula, would VERY swiftly sink entirely out of view. Lord of the Flies is, I guess, a kind of sub-Conrad work, but extremely well written and, as it were, pertinent. I’m not sure what one commenter so complained about it for.

    In internet business: I notice saruh is on a YUGE social capital buying spree today. “Sounding all the right notes”. Since we know she pops in here from time to time, under one moniker or another, I’ll just leave this out: she should feel free to attest to, or any interested reader should ask her, what has brought on this sudden manic “now you’re talking!” thrill up her leg at the prospect of Trump victory, and the Alt-Right hard trolling the Left, esp. considering just yesterday and into this morning she was on a hardcore “abandon all White Women while ye may!” kick.

    The answer, of course, is that she’ll never hold her nose long enough to spell out what she’s purportedly for. However, as Greg, among others, is a sort of Robert E. Lee to my Bedford Forrest, a saruhcide “I promise I’ll do better next time, Daddy!” will let her off the hook to roam free another day. So I’ll let slide the leash for the moment– though lord knows I begrude letting the comments section smell like wet dog shit for long.

    But as I say– ladies– we know you drop in here. So perhaps this is all some sort of– trap? But really, I DO have work to do this weekend, so please enjoy yourselves! But PA, keep an eye on the girls for me. I’ll just be too busy to cane them myself. And I’m sure they’ll be screwing up again in no time. They have, after all, “Cycles” to maintain, and huwite boys to lure to incel trailer pill doom.

    The little bitch.

  33. — Basically, keep in mind your own terminology; human interaction patterns are cyclical, and indeed western technological innovation is linear; as is my wont i’ll see once more that this here very forum —— blog posts and commentary ——- exemplifies recent technology making inter-ethnic communication possible in a way that was not at all common or barely possible a mere 20 years ago.

    Well, I did say that technological progress is ultimately bent back on itself into a cyclical retrograde form as well, because it is subject to human will. I would also argue that nothing substantial has changed in terms of interracial dialogue. Think about it: there is a whole world of Twitter out there, with subliteral ghetto users sharing twerking videos or KillWhitey banter. They are as much a universe away from my comments section, as a restive shantytown would have been from a university a century ago. Just as in the past there was no absolute barrier to, say, an intelligent albeit rare non-European visitor socializing in a European society (without looking it up to confirm, Dumas and Pushkin were halfrican and quarter-black, respectively), so now you socialize here freely as well.

  34. Ok, but i’ll elaborate a bit better and later —– when i up my white-western tech innovation from f-ing smart phone to a more grammatically enabling laptop, dammit! 🙂

  35. IIRC, Samuel Johnson attacked Shakespeare in even mundane ways that we’d expect from modern pop film critics, such as noting the insufficient “Roman-ness” of his ancient characters, jokes that fell flat, or the unbelievable plot holes which could make his stories unworkable in real life. He still praised Shakespeare overall and didn’t wish to remove him from prominence, but I believe he thought that other heavyweight dramatists were getting short shrift (such as Shakespeare’s compatriot Christopher Marlowe).

    But a lot of people just don’t realize how popular Shakespeare was in entertainment-starved England during his own lifetime – the Globe would be packed with rough, lower class rustics and sophisticated nobility alike.

  36. Well, I did say that technological progress is ultimately bent back on itself into a cyclical retrograde form as well, because it is subject to human will.

    I think that Lion of the Blogosphere’s has a good point when he talks about how post-scarcity is going to radically affect the USA. It’s clearly undermining patriarchy and birth rates quite a bit, with Obama’s rise causing some very strange political alliances between people who have zero in common but can’t see it, and who wouldn’t be able to keep the lights on or roads clear for even 3 months if they were to break off and form their own society.

  37. @ Laguna Beach Fogey – when you tell us a few of your tales of travels in Africa and elsewhere you make me recall the fascinating character Hemingway wrote about in “Snows of Kilimanjaro”.

  38. Yeah, I was half serious about being busy and all, but–

    Okay, I held my tongue when saruh posted that remark about “pedobear” today at heartiste.

    And now, actually for the first time since April, I started cruising old comments to revisit just how far back saruh’s stream of bullshit goes and–

    COMPLETELY by accident, but by god there it is, Feb. 8, 2016.

    saruh talkin’ about “pedobear”.

    I really mean it, I hope she’s just a 112 IQ pampered little J.A.P. or Tel Aviv tubby. Otherwise, given the “uh” persona’s sweaty pawed megalomania and general insanity, “he” probably belongs buried neck-deep in the woods.

  39. Like everyone else, most of my reading time is taking up on the web. These two threads are my newsfeed for the election,

    http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8496-the-donald-trump-presidential-archive/
    http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8380-hillo-bitch-2016-the-neverending-lesbian-bed-death/

    But speaking of Hillary the Dying Candidate, check out this picture. I can’t find an isolated image, but it is worth your time. She is cross-eyed in a classic display of neurological confusion, i think the symptom is in line with Parkinsons.

    The second link, on this page here, post #2309.

  40. Hillary and Parkinsons is not new news, but that one picture is fucked up.

    Also, Pushkin’s great-grandfather is generally thought to be Eritrean. The suggestion of “Chad or Abyssinia” from the authoritative page i linked just upthread, was from his son-in-law and first biographer, and i would guess that such a mistaken reckoning (of place of origin) would have been due to a hazy understanding of Africa’s geography.

    I will be quiet now.

  41. “I would also argue that nothing substantial has changed in terms of interracial dialogue. Think about it: there is a whole world of Twitter out there, with subliteral ghetto users sharing twerking videos or KillWhitey banter. They are as much a universe away from my comments section, as a restive shantytown would have been from a university a century ago. Just as in the past there was no absolute barrier to, say, an intelligent albeit rare non-European visitor socializing in a European society (without looking it up to confirm, Dumas and Pushkin were halfrican and quarter-black, respectively), so now you socialize here freely as well.”

    I don’t disagree with your examples and perhaps i should’ve noted that IT allows adversaries ‘more intimate’ dialogue too! But mainly, it allows the Dumases and Pushkins to communicate ‘freely and well’ to the point where ‘them and theirs’ are cultural norms. That is big and consequential and unprecedented (in terms of frequency if not documentable incident).

    cross-cultural familiarity is routine now, in ways the alt-right is grateful for and not (i.e., there’s more info available re. black-on-white crime stats, but also more bm-wf couplings depicted in pop entertainment, etc., blah-blah). Your quoted example is true but i’m more or less talking about the scale of the points we’re both making.

  42. — Like everyone else, most of my reading time is taking up on the web.

    Yes. I did most of my reading of books from childhood on to about 30 years of age, and now with occasional exceptions, it’s blog reading. That’s a habit that needs correcting, which is why, as I mentioned, I am now re-reading Milosz’s “Native Realm.” Being busy, it’s a bit of a chapter at a time. The effect of reading that book, though, is like an infusion of oxygen into the brain — and this is not a slight against my normal blog reading. It’s a reflection of the fact that blogs, even ones written by authors with first-rate minds, are hyper-focused on the contemporary. Even when the breadth of their perspective is generous, we’re still engaging in reading for the sake of following current events. That’s understandable, given that we are living through an upheaval.

    The experience of going through “Native Realm” is a refreshing and necessary stepping back from myopia. He wrote it in 1957, and the early chapters I am now going through cover his childhood, 1911 through 1920. Good autobiographical writing creates a vivid visualization of the most commonplace things in the context of historic events that the narrator (speaking from the vantage point of a child he was at the time) takes for granted, like air. Those landscape paintings are then connected in your mind with a more general or timeless understanding; in some part through the author’s adult-voice commentary, but in larger part by the connections you make in your own mind.

  43. “I can’t find an isolated image, but it is worth your time. She is cross-eyed in a classic display of neurological confusion, i think the symptom is in line with Parkinsons.”

    I find that kind of speculation to be self-defeating; it’s a mock-dignified form of Schadenfreude; if you did a poll asking x-amount of individuals if they thought HRC was or wasn’t suffering from some clandestine health problem, the yays and nays would perfectly correlate with their political partisanship, which says all you need to know about this kind of mediated phrenology.

    Be more dignified.

  44. “I would also argue that nothing substantial has changed in terms of interracial dialogue.”

    No. I would respectfully disagree, and quite forcefully. And the two subsequent points you make after the above statement? I’d agree with your point but don’t feel they prove or even say much about your above, quoted contention.

    Interracial dialogue HAS significantly changed due to IT; it’s so radical that it’s insidious. and of course the true measure of when a technology is transformative is when you almost overlook it’s effect on the culture writ large. I don’t want to go off on some hermeneutic debate about tech-vs-racial-sociology; just making the point that, while once one could easily avoid the other in the day-to-day pop zeitgeist, it’s now nearly all but impossible to avoid the main if ever-differing ingredients in the melting pot. By my lights, that’s really not debatable anymore.

    I don’t think i’m making too much of the role of telecommunications advances; I myself am skeptical of those who put too much FAITH in technology; but i do believe we are living in the midst of a truly radical period brought about primarily by communications technology.

  45. Technology has made it easier for American blacks to do what they love most – be black. Social media is not going to help blacks move towards European norms.

    Asian liberal guy stumbles across #thingsblackpeopledo on Twitter and nearly has a heart attack at the “racism” – until he realizes it’s all black people commenting, so it’s ok.

    http://gawker.com/5545285/what-this-asian-man-learned-from-the-things-black-people-do-twitter-trend

    This one is really eye-opening, also:

    https://twitter.com/search?q=whitepeoplechallenge&src=typd

  46. I’m not big on Alex Jones but he’s reporting on something interesting – a video of Obama (with Michelle) recorded by his sister in Kenya during his 20’s talking about white privilege and featuring him allegedly saying he “hates white people.”

    http://linkis.com/www.infowars.com/plkIx

    At one point in the movie Obama says he has “a lot at stake” in building “a strong black country in Kenya.”

    I guess we will see, he’s been talking about it for a few days but no release of video yet. The last time Breitbart had some big revelation video on Obama it was just him shaking hands with some radical pro-African Marxist professor or something, and even the alt right had to let out a collective yawn on that.

    At the very least, there’s still images of Obama we haven’t seen before:

    https://www.wesearchr.com/bounties/never-before-seen-video-young-obama-talks-white-people-in-ke

  47. Only 20 seconds of content here but this definitely hasn’t been seen before, hopefully it’s not a dud when the full 20 minutes is revealed:

  48. Concur with LBF about V.S. Naipaul. He is based af. His novel Guerillas is about as anti-liberal as mainstream writing gets.

    Vidia’s younger brother Shiva (18 years younger, so quite a difference) was equally based but sadly died in his forties. He was one of the first journalists on the scene at Jonestown and the non-fiction book he wrote about it, Journey to Nowhere, looks straight through the glamour of San fran counter-culture to the nihilism beneath it. Sentimentality leads to the kool-aid.

    PA, Native Realm was so formative for me in coming to anti-liberal politics and racial awareness. Milosz’s hatred of Polish nationalism seems odd but actually represents something quite common to great writers. Their assumptions as revealed in their poetry and fiction, if they are any good, are often starkly at odds with their stated political opinions. This cuts both ways as well. Gogol was a raving reactionary yet Stalin reasonably used his novel Dead Souls as Soviet propaganda. That is why I said classic lit is a huge weapon for us. Any writer who has stood the test of time is almost by definition alt-right.

    My personal alt-right reading list would include:
    Evelyn and Auberon Waugh
    Both Amises until Martin turned faggoty in the early 90s.
    Japanese Catholic Shusaku Endo
    Weldon Kees
    Kipling
    Houellebecq
    Chesterton
    Robinson Jeffers
    Dostoevsky
    Robert Frost
    Walker Percy
    Muriel Spark

    PA, have you ever read Ryszard Kapuscinski? Though he was a leftist, he hit at some pretty amazing truths regarding the third world and the Soviet bloc.

    Thanks again for your work.

  49. Remy de Gourmont, Gérard de Nerval, José Donoso, Milan Kundera, Goethe, Dostoevsky, to name a handful. On Hemingway: not a fan — but his Green Hills of Africa is worth a go, and his endorsement of Beryl Markham opened me to her “West With the Night” (best writing by a female I’ve known.)

    Cheers

  50. I agree with TD. Hillary is a servant and agent of objective evil and such things are best destroyed. This election is an existential war. Not a time for sportsmanship over winning.

  51. I read a lot of Isak Dineson in my late teens, early 20s. She had a very aristocratic attitude towards life. I have a 1st edition of one of her books somewhere here.

  52. Agree with TD and PA. This is NO time for sportsmanship and fair play. Fuck the Queensberry Rules. She and her kind must be knocked down and wiped out for good.

  53. While we’re having a civilized chat about technology facilitating interracial dialogue, and while dindus (in Camlost’s link upthread) jabber about confronting White people about racism… a pack of chimps near Baltimore sets two White men on fire. It’s on film. The collective degeneracy, all up and down the spectrum of agency, doesn’t understand… our hate is not going away. “Incinerate the toxic biomass” fire the hindbrain impulses in more and more among us.

    http://conservativepost.com/two-white-men-doused-with-gasoline-and-set-on-fire-by-blacks-near-baltimore-media-censored-story-video/

  54. Yes. Reflecting on the ongoing atrocities against our people, both in Europe and the US, I’m finding myself more and more slipping into reveries about shooting these fuckin bleeders down in the streets. And I’m not only talking about the googles. I don’t think this is a particularly profitable line of thinking, but I suppose it’s a good way to relieve psychic pressure. I’m actually a very sensible, affable chap, happy and successful in life, as you’ll see when we meet. It’s so very odd to be thinking like this.

  55. “hopefully it’s not a dud “

    Yeah, i checked out the publication that your link and article led to; that is some quality reflective juuuuuuurnalism there, chap, no? How dare he feel AND STATE ALOUD his offense that Kenyans were treated second-class to whites in their own country. Besides, I would think that would flatter you and yours and make he and his feel humiliated; you guys just don’t quit, even after you win!!

  56. IT allows adversaries ‘more intimate’ dialogue too! But mainly, it allows the Dumases and Pushkins to communicate ‘freely and well’ to the point where ‘them and theirs’ are cultural norms.

    LMAO. Talk about delusional.

    Pushkin was not an octoroon Russian. Get a fucking clue.

  57. Trickin would appropriate Pushkin.

    Pushkin was Russian, he wasn’t part of “them and theirs”, as Trickin’s post would have it.

    nikcrit — “them and theirs” is YOU (and yours). Pushkin is not part of that; he was on the other side — the WHITE side.

    So don’t say that this dialogue allows for the Pushkins to make their case for “them and theirs”.

    You got it backwards.

  58. it’s a mock-dignified form of Schadenfreude; if you did a poll asking x-amount of individuals if they thought HRC was or wasn’t suffering from some clandestine health problem, the yays and nays would perfectly correlate with their political partisanship, which says all you need to know about this kind of mediated phrenology.

    “mediated phrenology” … ?

    It has NOTHING to do with phrenology. Perhaps you want to double-check the meanings of your big words.

  59. I don’t fault Obama for disliking the British in Kenya. British people can be irritating. The good ones are very good, however, like John Derbyshire.

  60. And why does it have to be Schadenfreude?

    Why can’t we just say, Look at that sick bitch, she’s running for president.

    Let’s not notice clear symptoms of neurological dysfunction — which such things are, because it’s not “dignified.”

    Perhaps we play pretend for the rest of our time here on earth, and we’ll all just get along.

  61. Obama was in a restaurant in Kenya, where he was ignored, and the British diners were given good service. This enraged him.

  62. it’s a mock-dignified form of Schadenfreude; if you did a poll asking x-amount of individuals if they thought HRC was or wasn’t suffering from some clandestine health problem, the yays and nays would perfectly correlate with their political partisanship, which says all you need to know about this kind of mediated phrenology.

    It doesn’t matter that half the people would say Hillary is not sick, and half would say she is.

    She is sick.

    **********

    That is called the error of false compromise. Half the people are wrong, and half the people are right.

    There is no “dignity” in pretending an OBVIOUSLY candidate for president is NOT SICK.

    That would be supporting weakness, and that support of WEAKNESS is EVERYTHING that is wrong with liberalism. That’s what we are here to get rid of.

  63. The anti-white nastiness is escalating with each unfolding news cycle. we now find ourselves amidst a media created reality distortion field in which white people are being blamed for a black cop shooting a black suspect. We will have to continue chipping away at the flying buttresses of the Cathedral until the walls collaspse, but we face a new challenge: Google, Twitter, and YouTube are planning on censoring material they deem offensive. Newspapers are closing their comments. Their goal is that blogs like yours will never show up on a search, but Saudi cleric Mohammad Al-Areefi with 10 million plus followers can still call for the slaughter of infidels. I am concerned this censorship will be very difficult to surmount.

  64. White grandma’s home invaded by a pack of blacks, she is beaten and set on fire.

    “She survived burning to death only because she pulled herself to a place where she knew she had kept a gallon jug of water. There she was able to pour the water on herself and put out the fire. Then, with a broken arm, she crawled to her cellphone and dialed 911.”

    She later died in the hospital.

    Not a single mainstream media story on this event.

    Could you imagine if the races were reversed?

    http://usherald.com/83-year-old-white-woman-beaten-set-fire-black-gang-cries-racism/

  65. Liberals have the press and Hollywood. We have the police and the military. We are also more numerous. We are in a position of strength. When confronted by them, I calmly state my support for Trump and say very little else. First of all, they don’t listen, but I think anything else is overkill. Supporting Trump is making it clear you are not one of them.

  66. “It has NOTHING to do with phrenology. Perhaps you want to double-check the meanings of your big words.”

    Yes, I was saying that your bad-faith interpretations of HRC’s behavior via media newsclips is about as valid a way of determining if she has a medical condition is about as valid as phrenology, which is often code for medical quackery or to signify something that is pseudo-revealing.

    (I see another definition of the word phrenology implies it interprets PRE-EXISTING head and facial shapes and attributes personal qualities to them; in that case my mocking analogy is lacking, so I’ll concede so to your criticism on this one.)

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phrenology

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    That is called the error of false compromise. Half the people are wrong, and half the people are right.

    I don’t quite understand your point above; I just don’t think it’s clear that HRC is suffering some serious illness; i don’t think she could conceal that even if the MSM were in semi-cahoots. Like i semi-successfully conveyed via saracasm, i think it’s basically a partisan for-or-against thing; but of course i know that i don’t literally know that is for sure, etc. Who does besides HRC and her doctors.

    In any case, it was meant as passing sarcasm and maybe humor —– not really a literal accusation of being undignified.

  67. I had the misfortune of posting two relatively aesthetic gripes before seeing the two post preceding my first one; those two included PA’s harrowing account and clip of the two white people being doused with fire and set ablaze.

    That sort of reduced the effect my rather trivial observation made in context; i.e., but that point was coincidental and I certainly wouldn’t argue against it.

  68. I am concerned this censorship will be very difficult to surmount.

    No need for undue concern. They are throwing all they have it us right now. This may well be an extinction burst ahead of the end of obama’s term. Companies like Google are doing too many things that turn the stomach. We have to elect Trump and not just build a wall but repatriate the Africans and others who had been flown or let in here. I saw numerous bold, beautiful Trump lawn signs around here, and it’s a liberal leaning area.

  69. I talked to a Puerto Rican police officer recently. He supports Trump and claims Hillary is trying to start a race war. Trump has a good chance at this point.

  70. I talked to a Puerto Rican police officer recently. He supports Trump and claims Hillary is trying to start a race war. Trump has a good chance at this point.

    Recently Hillary basically begged Puerto Ricans to move to Florida so they could vote and tip Florida:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/02/hillary-clinton-urges-puerto-ricans-move-florida-vote/

    I grew up with a small number of Puerto Ricans who were in the military. Many of the Puerto Ricans in the armed forces are some of the most right-wing, gung-ho military type of staunch Christians you could ever imagine.

  71. Yeah, i checked out the publication that your link and article led to; that is some quality reflective juuuuuuurnalism there, chap, no?

    LOL, your point is valid, I can’t argue. But the point is that this could be a video where Obama talks freely in front of an all-African, anti-colonialist audience at a time where he surely didn’t have serious designs on the Presidency yet (he was 27) and maybe he says some things about “white people” that probably would’ve hurt his 2008 campaign chances if we’d had the video. This is supposed to be something completely new, not just stuff recounted from his books.

    The other video I wish we had was from 2007 where that NYT Reporter asks Obama to recite the Muslim call to prayer, which Obama alleged did in “flawless Arabic” and of course we know that prominently features “Allahu Akbar.” If we would’ve had that on video to watch before the 2008 election things would’ve been a little different.

    Call to prayer:

  72. @ MGE – I already posted something about Dorothy Dow, the 83 year-old White great-grandmother killed by 4 Obama supporters in a home invasion.

    But the local news coverage and this photo show us something revealing about Dorothy’s descendants:

  73. — your boy Viktor Orban is ruffling some feathers again

    Yes, he’s making bold proposals, Trump style. And why not? What incentive does any opponent of leftism have of being moderate? The art of negotiation is about seeking Win-Win with a good-faith opponent. But when in a zero-sum conflict with a hostile adversary, in which any concession is a loss without commensurate meaningful gains, it would be irrational to seek a middle-ground.

    People forget, Orban is a former Soros Foundation scholar and leader of a moderate party. Ultranationalists wait in the wings.

  74. — Milosz’s hatred of Polish nationalism seems odd but actually represents something quite common to great writers. Their assumptions as revealed in their poetry and fiction, if they are any good, are often starkly at odds with their stated political opinions. This cuts both ways as well. Gogol was a raving reactionary yet Stalin reasonably used his novel Dead Souls as Soviet propaganda. That is why I said classic lit is a huge weapon for us. Any writer who has stood the test of time is almost by definition alt-right. (Nozdryov)

    That is an excellent point.

  75. — Milosz’s hatred of Polish nationalism seems odd but actually represents something quite common to great writers.

    Nationalism in mid-century Europe meant something much different than what “Nationalism” means in an immigration-friendly place like today’s France or USA. So, when I hear discussion of the customary disdain for nationalism expressed by so many continental European writers post-1950 I think something is lost in perspective, considering that a country like Poland spent many centuries allied with or under the same flag with close neighbors like Lithuania and Ukraine, but then new rivalries were exacerbated or invented from scratch after WW2 by despotic communist dictators as a way of forestalling the spread of free thinking ideas from the West.

    After 500 years of non-stop, debilitating warfare by the Hapsburgs or Napoleon or Frederick the Great, often just to win a few hundred square miles of territory, many writers of the time just thought that nationalism = war.

    And there’s some suggestion that central and Eastern Europe’s economies (and maybe genetics, too) suffered greatly from the their position of being the locus of so much warfare due to being jammed in between so many aggressive nations – the “edge” places in Europe (Denmark, Scandinavia, mounatinous Switzerland, Iceland, UK, western Germany) definitely benefited from being more defensible and less trampled by armies.

  76. I can’t recall; where you yourself ever enlisted?

    Hell nah. Reason #1 being that I’m a bigtime night owl and don’t like waking up at zero dark thirty in the morning at someone else’s screaming behest.

  77. Yes, I was saying that your bad-faith interpretations of HRC’s behavior via media newsclips is about as valid a way of determining if she has a medical condition is about as valid as phrenology, which is often code for medical quackery or to signify something that is pseudo-revealing. — Neat Trick

    Stupid…

    So stupid that you would have almost had “us” believe you were attesting to Hillary Clinton’s fine health? Or rather, you would say, “Mrs. Clinton is in good health.”

    That’s what’s you are really saying, Neat Trick, isn’t it?

    When some people have seen my face and skull, they thought wS. HBD validated, no? Or, Have-Been-Duped quackery?

    What are you actually saying above, bro? “We” cannot see truths with our delusional eyes?

  78. Thorbaby,

    Your foisting upon me a level of nefariousness and agenda that I’m not even capable of imagining; not all of us are fantastical enough schizoids to even conjure such socio-schematics.

    Sincerely,
    Neat Trick (me likes this latest handle!)

  79. “Their assumptions as revealed in their poetry and fiction, if they are any good, are often starkly at odds with their stated political opinions…..That is why I said classic lit is a huge weapon for us. Any writer who has stood the test of time is almost by definition alt-right. (Nozdryov)”

    Somehow, i get the sense this is true when i apply it to writers and writings that i’m familiar with. But i don’t really understand what you’re saying in regard to the works you cite and to its correlation to the alt-right specifically.

    My loss —– mark another one to that ‘modern-lit’ track i followed as a undergrad and still at times regret to this day.

  80. That is why I said classic lit is a huge weapon for us. Any writer who has stood the test of time is almost by definition alt-right. (Nozdryov)”

    The new boogeyman in today’s America is those stale, pale males of yesteryear who did not worship at the altar of our newly installed state religion of Political Correctness.

    What are you actually saying above, bro? “We” cannot see truths with our delusional eyes?

    @ Cheap Trick – looks like Quotedaddy just gave you some of your own medicine since you’re normally the one haranguing others about their lying eyes on various topics, especially the miscegenation discussions.

  81. “looks like Quotedaddy just gave you some of your own medicine “

    IDK what he’s saying lately…. that HRC riff was as plain as can be: i don’t think there’s real evidence of her suffering from some serious malady that she’s concealing. That opinion has nothing to do with her candidacy. Still, about that, i’m tired of the whole squalid spectacle; i can say that i don’t share ‘the Donald’ zeal that reigns her in the man-o-sphere. I’m very biased toward outsized egos and celebrities in general; few turly understand that the modern-era digitally mediated ‘celebrity’ is less a real person and more a hologramistic ego projection of monstrous intentions and design. Really.

  82. Neat Trick…

    IT IS…

    I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING…

    And it is NOT…

    “Hillary Clinton is observably in good health.”

    MAKING A STENCH over what amounts to a NATURAL SPECULATION GIVEN all the pertinent evidence IS THE VERY MANNER in which YOU SAY NOTHING DEFINITIVE to the natural speculation.

    And it is all YOU CAN DO other than appear an absolutely pozzed fool in claiming Hillary Clinton to be in good health…

    This ^^^ is the issue…

    Is that old dyke in good health or real bad health?

    What would HBD say?

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