288 thoughts on ““Always Resist” — A Proposed Alt-Right Emblem

  1. I like it. The Art-Deco symbol used at the presser looks nautical to me. I can’t help think about sail boats and Nautica clothing when I see it.

  2. BTW, the conference seemed pretty low-key and de-fanged to me. Where was the edge?I’ve seen Alt-Right goys up close. Most are short(er) and thin. Need more strength, bigger meat to represent us.

  3. wS –>/<– S^^

    This ^^^ is the memetic instruction.

    At some point one cannot sustain his resistance. He breaks free or is annihilated.

  4. It’s perfect.
    Angular “P” with diagonal line at lower right.
    It needs to be an emoticon.
    I hope it is spread far and wide and becomes as famous as the anarchist, peace and Nazi swastika symbols.

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  6. I dunno; it’s a good idea because symbols are powerful but…

    White Supremacy was declawed to White Nationalism was defanged to Pro-White,
    which were reasonable moves,
    and then
    “Dark Enlightenment” vs. “Neoreaction” vs. “Alt-Right”, all different names for the same general movement. I don’t care that Moldbug is a djoo that’s not that important.

    I was disappointed that “Alt-Right” name came out on top, because while most people (not me) come into it from the “Right” it’s Third Wing, revolutionary politics. Alex Jones calls his flavor “Classical Liberalism” for valid reasons. I’ve never thought of myself as “Right Wing” and that title will alienate Leftist converts that we need.

    When the The Sea Hag gave the term power it seemed like a retarded move to most here…
    But she did it to alienate Trump from Bernie supporters who were starting to see he was “not really Right Wing.”

    If the Bernie cohort flips it’s game over. And I’m not talking about Trump and the stupid election I’m talking R@H0W@ and the world.
    Conservatives can’t get anything done because they are motivated by fear of change and wanting to protect what they have.
    Leftists are motivated by Vision and they will fucking tear shit up for it. The vision they follow is empty, and when they flip we will have a force far more powerful than our enemies comprehend.

    We ain’t right wing. We’re revolutionaries. The Bernie femboys are our Stormtroopers and they will come home. Our enemies offer them Shame, Despair, and Death; we offer them Hope, Glory, and Power. Armed with truth they will grow into men and become mighty.

    We’re gonna leave fashionable lies in the past where they belong and build a better world, and unlike the Reds we actually offer one. We’re the rightful owners of the original Left before the tyrants took it over. “Right” nothin’.

    [you can read AR as raw and simple “Always Resist” instead of what you fear as wonky branding. –PA]

  7. — The Art-Deco symbol used at the presser looks nautical to me. (LBF)

    I see a couple of Klansters having a smoke under a starry sky.

  8. “,..can’t help think about sail boats and Nautica clothing…”

    I sensed this in the ethos a while back. It’s partially why I’m in for the ride.

  9. There’s a good reason why the Amren conferences are so tame, LBF: Murka is a police state.

    How many agents were there? Taking pictures, licence plates, hotel records, cell phone junk and so on. It’s like having a capitalist conference in the USSR.

    You saw our “legals” and intelligensia. WN has its own enforcement division. You are looking for the thugs, the bikers, skins, killers, thieves and so on. You’ll not find them at any “conference” like that. They wouldn’t go near that.

    As long as our legals “support” or tolerate the action people, that’s all we require.

  10. PA, God damn you. That symbol is useless unless its tagged on the SPLC and Holycaust museum doors, all of our enemy’s strongholds. .

    You don’t know who Banksys is. “Street art” is the phrase. It means putting your mark wherever you want to, without getting caught.

  11. Sheeeet… You already dodged MY FIRST CRITIQUE of the AR vector graphic logo (with its AWS within) and then tried to throw me off with a query on the AR graffiti that looks like an alligator about to DEVOUR the Cross.

    [it is a simple and abstract design. at face value it represents the letters A and R. any free association beyond that is subjective. you can just as legitimately see it as a man lifting a fallen cross. — PA]

  12. I see Thordaddy is watching football week 1 and getting amped up something fierce, remembering his old days on the field…

    [and I just deleted the pumped up comments in which I had no idea wtf he’s saying — PA]

  13. So I was watching an episode of Sam Hyde’s Middle Dollar Extreme and near the end of the last sketch this very cool song started playing. I found it intriguing, and discovered it was ‘Hey Moon’ by John Maus (b. 1980), a musician from Minnesota whose style is a mix of 80s’-style synth-pop, post-punk, and 80s film music, which I found rather similar to the official music of the Alt-Right, Synthwave. His music really takes me back. Reminds me of the Human League, YMO, and 80s movies. Anyone familiar with his work?

  14. Camlost
    You new, son?
    I don’t watch N.F…
    Hell!
    It’s a jewzmedia
    Run
    Business
    Where joozell…
    The use-jew-well
    “Black Alpha Athlete”
    With stank stooge smell.
    Supposedly
    “Black men”-ions with opinions
    Make the cuckeyed
    See “Onion”
    It’s a crying game now
    Know more
    Paul Bunyans?
    Just a bunch of hot dogs
    And female pork runions
    Running a stadium
    Of dumb Dems
    Lights out
    It’s Friday Night
    Palin’ in republican
    At “high screwl field” near “you.”
    Domesticate the Alaskan alley mute
    In the First Anal Full
    Iced Bowel Foot-Balls game
    It’s Just Jew.

  15. “I just deleted the pumped up comments in which I had no idea wtf he’s saying — PA]”

    There’s been a real tangible mania as of late re. Thor’s prose and rhymes; one thing i noticed: during phases such as the current one, he gets more populist —— more deferential to memes he may or may not seem a likely suspect, i.e., his delving into rap and other seemingly unlikely and alien genres (here, what was memorable to me was a race remark of his that camed with the ending summation: “Damn, that nigger is radically autonomous….”

    Say what you will, but where else in this God-created universe are you going to find another character like that? In its own very unique way, that is some precious shite!

  16. I got some hard words for thordaddy, and then in the second part of this comment, for nikcrit and Cam.

    There is a raw note to his verbal felicity — but i would criticize his stuff as “thematically derivative”. It is Derivative on his own non-sense. Like his philosophy. It seems that he doesn’t realize that he is dealing with Fellow Humans. We don’t need to be preached; we don’t need a brand-new philosophy courtesy of some guy on the internet.

    Hey how about instead, tell us of Plato, or Jung?

    **********
    On the other hand, at least he says no to the the NFL.

    Sometimes i can’t believe, that (some of the) people on here talk sports, like this is Ace of Spades or some commonplace nowhere.

    These fellow commenters have an area of expertise, … but listen up, goys. Sports as a metaphor was once understood — and forgivable. But now not so much.

    ***********************

    Yeah i bitch about my problems, but their musings on the “Big Ten” or some Basketball Team, are more drenched in narcissism. They don’t see that it’s drenched in narcissism — because it’s reinforced by a cultural bias. It is reinforced by their self-supporting narcissism.

  17. Ok Drunken Master, I will have to comply – since you’re obviously the ideal arbiter to decide what is worthy of being posted on alt right sites. We wouldn’t want some potential convert coming her and getting the wrong idea upon seeing my single line of sports talk wedged in between your endless phallocentric musings and discussion of feeling dejected by the oppressive treatment you received from the mannerless heifers at your local grocery store.

  18. Please let me live that down. It is the theme of my life though — and i will eventually get back to complaining about it.

    My impression is that Cam’s hard lack of sympathy — while admirable from the perspective of a tough guy, and maybe even a real-world hard-man — is part of his Japanese character, and it strikes me as a little foreign.

    So it’s ok, not ok, whatever who cares. But us white people? sometimes we cry. That emotional capacity is what drives us to be beautiful. Japanese people are sometimes called honorary whites — as often as not, among the Hard Right? they are hated.

    I think they are good-looking, but i don’t think that they have the capacity to feel, to the range that we do.

    That you are inclined to mock those feelings, proves my point. Yeah i am creating a tautology that you can’t really argue — because hey i am white, and can you the same? I am saying that the basis of these arguments, is the pain, and the drunkenness, and the loserdom, and all of it. If you want to discredit that — well then where are you from, and who are your parents? Do they even belong here?

  19. Looked John Maus up. His newer stuff brings Joy Division to mind — after-parties and combat. In that vein, give Mini Mansions a spin sometime.

  20. I guesstimate 10k plus head collisions accumulated from the age of ten to the age of twenty years old while playing football. I scored a 1060 on the SAT pre-94. I don’t know Plato or Jung. I know white (S)upremacy and I know “radical autonomy” as an extension of Mark Richardson’s “autonomy theory” of Liberalism.

  21. — We don’t need to be preached; we don’t need a brand-new philosophy courtesy of some guy on the internet. (Elk)

    This.

    That said, I’m curious why TD thinks Spencer’s vector graphic is bad.

  22. I like the emphasis on resistance rather than ‘right’ or ‘reaction’ or whatever.

    That recognizes the reality of the increasingly tyrannical juggernaut of the dominant progressive coalition and several crucial facts about the current gloomy state of affairs.

    (Note: I am not issuing a counsel of despair, passivity, defeatism, or anything but the strategically minimal amount of quietism. As in any conflict, there are surely times and places to put on self-validatingly brave faces full of hope and irrational overconfidence. But there is also time for sober appraisal of a collapsing situation and reflection on the optimal way to salvage a looming disaster and potential vanquishment. That is, how to fall back to some – hopefully temporary but mostly robustly defensible – position in which one can survive and wait out the siege, and maybe regroup and triumph in the end. Not everyone need cede territory, and indeed, similar to Dunkirk, the reversing main body will depend for its very existence on the final protective fires of its bravest defenders.)

    In my view, the fundamental issue is the problem of cooperative solidarity among individuals and groups that tend to oppose only some facet of the progressive program for their own personal or even idiosyncratic reasons. Indeed, the most sinister and terrifying aspect of that ‘hideous strength’ of the progressives is that they seem to have stumbled upon an evolved ‘solution’ of sorts, or an emergent formula of patterns of social control whereby they can make such unity and coordination among their adversaries all but impossible.

    There are two main factors at root of the current troubles:

    1. The lack of any single alternative ideology or set of common focal points that can command the adherence of all these disparate interest groups. There is no real agreed-upon meaning to ‘right’ or ‘conservative’ anymore or any prevailing or predominant vision of what an anti-progressive coalition should believe in and what it should be doing. Only a motley crew of people with otherwise incompatible views who don’t get along and just have their own particular bones to pick with the progressives. It has been this way for a long time (see George Hawley’s invaluable Right-Wing Critics of American Conservatism). Moreover, most of these people really are progressives in general (if occasionally only removed from the latest zeitgeist by a few years) except for their one pet interest.

    Indeed, much of what we’re seeing now is a particularly dramatic and significant instance of the constant battles for leadership, redefinition, and ideological reformation of the anti-left coalition, with every generation or so seeing a new group of public intellectuals trying to herd the cats around some new foundation of first principles. Paleos, Buckleyites, free market libertarians, cold war neoconservatives, religious social conservatives, and so forth. All of these new leaders of course want mainstream respectability (the distribution of such cachet being controlled by their enemies), and of course set about purging the tent of the last set of les miserables deplorables.

    Meanwhile these aspiring stagecoach drivers trying to take charge of the wagon names ‘conservatism’ or ‘the right’ has to find a way to synthesize a political formula which would also square the circle of combining the popularity electoral politics with the funding of the donor class. It’s clear today that the absolute zenith of potential and realized capability to achieve a unified front occurred during Reagan’s reign, and it’s been downhill ever since.

    2. The problem of human being naturally wanting to affiliate with those of high social status and wanting to shun those with low social status means the tactics of guilt by association and excommunication by being charged with some X-ism or Y-phobia – the desire of respectable people to retain their reputation for respectability – is practically insurmountable at this late stage. Any political entity organized to the point sufficient to take on the progressives needs a good number of intelligent, upper class elites on its side, but can’t get them if opinion is controlled to the point where its ideas are effectively slandered as only belonging to adherents which are stupid, bigoted, and low class.

    For years I have been reading people say that the answer is to simply embrace terms like ‘racist’ or pretend they have no power, and to have ‘no enemies to the right’ like they have no enemies to the left. Well, in practice it’s impossible to bring about, and the idea that this problem could be overcome with such approached I think originates in the proper attitude, but it is optimistic to the point of being naive.

    So, the problem of solidarity, of getting all these people to cooperate and work together as allies in coordinated efforts is both central and so difficult that it may be insuperable.

    Perhaps some hint on how to overcome the issue may come from something akin to Henry Dampier’s prison gang metaphor in his article at the Daily Caller. You disagree with, don’t like, and don’t want to join the aryan nation thugs, but identity politics is how things work in prison and you’ve got no other choice but to link up with your ethnic confederates and keep your mouth shut about disagreements if you want to survive, regardless of your personal convictions.

    Getting back to the WWII analogy, the U.S. made common cause with nasty Stalin, and while FDR didn’t find him so nasty at the time, it would be a decision most would still defend today.

    So perhaps an ‘alliance by necessity’ is the right socially acceptable excuse and lubricant to get some marginal folks to join in without having to betray their consciences and status impulses.

    What is needed is some kind of blanket excuse which makes this kind of ‘big tent solidarity’ possible amongst bickering rivals so they don’t get chopped up, divide and conquer style.

    Something along this lines of, “I do not have to play this stupid game and either accept or disavow my allies. We have huge differences, but this is an existential conflict for all of us. I have no choice but to accept help from anyone who is brave enough to offer aid.”

    Eh, needs work, but you see what I’m getting at.

  23. There is a species of Alt-Righter and WN who adheres to a kind of egalitarianism and “equality among White men” that impedes cooperation and common projects. They refuse to get in line. At heart, these aren’t clubbable types. And that’s problematic,

  24. “but only a motley crew of people with otherwise incompatible views who don’t get along and just have their own particular bones to pick with the progressives.”

    But that’s how a party hammers together their common-cause ‘planks,’ even if such a rote, ho-hum route does little to generate passion.
    ———————————————————————————————————————

    So Cam, is this true? Or more wishful tripe from ‘Cathedral Central?’ 🙂

    nly a motley crew of people with otherwise incompatible views who don’t get along and just have their own particular bones to pick with the progressives.

  25. “My impression is that Cam’s hard lack of sympathy — while admirable from the perspective of a tough guy, and maybe even a real-world hard-man — is part of his Japanese character”

    No, raw emotion and social venalities are just more commonly subverted and transfigured in Asian culture; think Kabuki theater—- the social frisson is heightened and then ceremoniously administered or dispatched. In the west, personal passions are more widely worked into the overall cultural fabric. Much more so…

  26. @ Nikcrit – The Atlanta beltline? It’s just a rape pipeline for crime to walk its way north, despite the bluster of all of the SWPLs.

    We’ve got a mega-expensive heavy rail system here (Marta) that costs $100 million per mile to build and only 2% of daily workers use it to get to their jobs. Atlanta isn’t like Chicago, we just don’t have the population density to support walkability or good public transit (not that I’m a fan of public transit, anyway).

  27. think Kabuki theater—- the social frisson

    JFC….. some butter cups just need to toughen the hell up, it ain’t got nothing to do with the far East, Kabuki or the differences between people from the orient and people from the occident. WT*F

  28. I think there are a lot of people in the alt right who don’t get along with anyone. The train tracks in my town cause a lot of traffic jams. I wish they would just rip them up.

  29. Handle, the biggest flaw with Moldbugian neoreaction lies in its overstating of progs’ power. Mencius wrote about them with a Marxist air of historic inevitability, without using those words. He was, per his admission, one of them — except he was perceptive enough to see the dis-civilizational downside to their ambitions. But in the end he showed that it’s all tribal after all — he recently begged SJWs to take him back, disavowing Trump’s supporters as “shit-grade voters.” I think he aimed to be sincere at UR and I respect his work there, as it was eye-opening, but there was eventually a whiff of con-job laid over the minds of anti-prog coalition. I’m meandering here a bit as well, and it’s for the sake of articulating the idea that proggism is more of a paper tiger than people believe it to be. An important corrective is to see them — progs, neoliberals, “brahmins” — as two things: (1) a front for mobile-capital looter oligarchs and (2) as an opportunistic infection and something of a global scale bluff.

    It’s useful to think of any reaction to neoliberalism in Auster’s view that Westerners will shed liberalism when they feel its pain, no sooner. The interesting follow-up I’d offer is: define “pain.” Does it have to look like Boer squatter camps on landfills? Or do things like material comfort amidst the the abuse of our collective disgust threshold, plus the loss of faith in the system, plus dread for the future, plus the million little humiliations and dishonors (Obama sez ‘diversity is our strength’ at 911 ceremony), plus the manifest ugliness of Hillary, plus dead little girls in France comprise pain?

    I agree with you (and earlier with Heretic phi) that the mere label Alt-Right is wanting as a rallying cry. I’ve started strongly disliking the term since Hillary’s speech because it’s making the movement self-consciously self-referential. But Alt-Right is not some trend or school of literature that will come and go. Rather, it’s the label for a very real mass misery. As Elk put it, “Whites are INSANE with anger.” I agree that this is the case.

    So the logo I created aims to expresses a number of aspirations under the slogan “Always Resist.” By the way, I enjoyed the process. Not wanting to use copyrighted hi-res images off the internet for the background wall, I took my own photos.

  30. I don’t know Moldburg. My guess he is smart enough to realize the alt right has some valid points. He probably is tempermentally a liberal. They are his people, we are not. The liberals in my life just seem like fundamentally different people than I am. I don’t try to change them. We can agree to disagree, but it does put a distance between us.

  31. Being a liberal is such a huge part of their identity, that when you disagree with them it is seen as a personal attack.

  32. Handle is a thoughtful guy. Though his idea seems over-elaborated. There is an existential crisis, and what’s more to say?

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    I despise white people … but as a white person — in the sense that i can talk shit about my mom but you had better not.

    We are not looking for defining principles — that is just fancy talk. Common cause is based on actually living together in meaningful lives. That is why We Don’t Get Along — because we don’t have to, live together and work together. And that is also why Blacks have got the upper hand on the Street — because they have had to live together and make some common cause. My impressions of black people have been criticized as not “in the know” — but that is the impression i get, up here.

    An example of working together in common cause would be anything-you-like, but traditionally, putting up the Harvest was the best time of the year, when everyone came together and you got to sneak around with the Polish milk maids and their jugs.

    But in this world, this society? we are isolated by what essentially boils down to our dependence on the economy.

    We all got to work for a dollar, and a good bit of that work is less than satisfying. It is not building something beautiful. Some people manage to find a craft where they get to do what they love — but how about garbage men, or cops? Hard not to be a little bit cynical, looking at the ass-end of society, for 20 years.

    So we are subservient to the Economy, rather than our Community. I think it is likely to work itself out, but only with a lot of devastation. Massive population de-escalation. It sounds fun on the internet, but when you got to hang outside, all winter long … you probably want to be “friends” with a bunch of Russians. And but i guess the theme of this thread, is you don’t even have to be friends with them — you need respectful relations, and alliance based on mutual aid.

  33. PA, when you mentioned the emblem resembling a cross, the cross then stood out to me. But I see the cross propping up a something, maybe a person.

    Reading cross got me to thinking about “deny thyself and take up thy cross.”

  34. Mendo: glad you see it too. It wasn’t intended consciously because I just focused on the two letters — but you can’t unsee the cross once you see it.

    Camlost: “the basket of deplorables” was the greatest political PR gift the American Right has received since Dukakis in the tank, and even more so.

    PS: the AR emblem got a favorable review in a Daily Stormer comment, as complement to Spencer’s “nautical” emblem. Here’s to it taking off!

  35. PA: while i think they are in a much stronger position than you do, I concede you make an excellent point. Yet I’m also afraid the ‘pain’ threshold is so high, and people will embrace the most absurd rationalizations for so long, that by the time the frog realizes it’s being boiled and decides to jump out of the pot, it will find that it’s already too late, the muscle fibers in its legs having been denatured by the long exposure to the heat.

  36. people will embrace the most absurd rationalizations for so long

    A brilliant but jaundiced commenter named K(yle) once expressed that idea with the words “memory of quality fades.” People adjust to the new normal.

    This is why I don’t think pain alone is enough. Psychologically, there needs to be an element of hope for the frog to jump out. This is consistent with historical observation that demoralized people, like beaten dogs, lick their tormentor’s hand. The dog will jump to tear the master’s neck only when the master shows weakness.

    Hope can come from a positive direction, like emergent/foreign elite sponsorship or from negative dynamics, like present elites’ ennervation.

  37. Blog milestone: I just got a 50th follower. Most are active bloggers, and nearly all — interestingly — aren’t political or anyone I’ve previously been familiar with.

  38. “This is why I don’t think pain alone is enough. Psychologically, there needs to be an element of hope for the frog to jump out. This is consistent with historical observation that demoralized people, like beaten dogs, lick their tormentor’s hand. The dog will jump to tear the master’s neck only when the master shows weakness.”

    Indeed, this was much the impetus behind the French Revolution, which for all their stupidity they at least wanted to annihilate the parasite class. But people often think the FR was the peasants revolting against a monarchy that was crushing them. When, in fact, the monarchy had been busily putting through reforms right up to the end. They were giving the people what they wanted, or at least trying to. But rather than placate the people, this provided a sense of “hey, we can get what we want!”

    Also, like all revolutions ever, it wasn’t a “peasant” revolt, but it was driven by both the aristocracy (some of them) and the intellectual class (lawyers and such). The peasants get on board when the shooting starts.

    Our trouble right now is that our aristocracy — the oligarch class — is 99.99% on board with the oppressive government class. And the intellectual class is 99.99% on board. Trump is of massive importance because he’s one of the only oligarch-level people to turn on the government/oligarch complex. If he wins, we might see others switching to his side. It’s very possible there could be a cascade effect where Trump ends up governing in an even Trumpier way than he’s campaigning.

    But if Trump loses, I think it’s over. This is our shot. The peasants never revolt without leaders in the aristocracy, and where’s the next Trump at this point?

  39. “It was just an idea, really,” said Mr. Gravel, now a planner in Atlanta. “I never imagined we’d actually do it.”

    Mr. Gravel and other advocates maintain great expectations. Upon completion in 2030, they say, the $4.8 billion project will connect 45 neighborhoods — rich and poor, black and white — thus easing old divisions of class and race. Organizers say it will promote healthy living and reduce obesity, and will provide new jobs, affordable housing, performance space, areas for urban farming and public art, as well as 2,000 acres of new and upgraded parks

    elk, you might have much to say on this matter, too, no?

    Well it sounds like they’re solving most of their problems — including the BIG ONES.

    So the NYT is a propaganda rag for development, now. Not exactly news — but this example of liberal pompom rah rah has to stand out, as some extreme non-sense.

    ************

    I agree in the goodness of those efforts — but they can’t be classified as to “connect … rich and poor, black and white” — too disingenuous. But the Times liberal readers WANT TO BELIEVE … So what’s the problem, bigot?!

    It will reduce obesity? Jimminy Christmas, as if i needed another laugh this morning.

    It sounds promising on its surface. Blacktop walkways are exercise. But the only thing gonna be reducing obesity, is cutting off the supply of fried chicken. And yeah, cheap beer probably might be a problem, too.

  40. Congrats, PA!

    I try to visit more regularly now, keep it in my rotation. There’s a handful of good commenters on here and best of all—no TSW…she’s seriously gumming up CH’s site. But the hysterics as of late are mildly entertaining.

    [thanks Mendo. To keep terminology clear for anyone reading along, “follower” means someone with a blog account whose settings alert them to a new post by me. My unique daily visitors, absent a traffic spike when a major Twitter account/blogger links to a post here, are in the hundreds. — PA

    PS: TSW’s sole redeeming quality is the awesomely hilarious attacks she draws from WF and CO]

  41. It sounds promising on its surface. Blacktop walkways are exercise. But the only thing gonna be reducing obesity, is cutting off the supply of fried chicken. And yeah, cheap beer probably might be a problem, too.

    To reduce obesity in these areas you’d also need to ban imports of weave hair from Korea or India. The “residents” of urban Atlanta spend a staggering percentage of their income on hair care so risking damage to the ‘do with exercise is out of the question.

  42. Our trouble right now is that our aristocracy — the oligarch class — is 99.99% on board with the oppressive government class. And the intellectual class is 99.99% on board. — Peterike

    Um… You mean 99.99% of high IQ “white” males are self-annihilating anti-white Supremacists?

    Do you mean 99.99% of “white” males with IQ > 140 POSSESS no solid identity OUTSIDE the “identity” granted them through a high IQ?

    Do you mean 99.99% of “white” males with IQs > 140 such as “elk” ARE REALLY self-immolating egalitarians AT HEART?

    Do you mean the “intellectual” class within the alt-rite is a significant chunk of that 99.99% AND SO represent the “enemy within?”

    If a “white” male with an IQ >140 CANNOT conceptualize:

    Universal equality = anti-objective Supremacy, ie., Perfection…

    Then his >140 IQ is worse than worthless.

    Because his IQ instead goes to conjuring up ways to self-annihilate and pawn it off as living free.

    That way he “raises” rasped Mary and potato Ted and thinks he has the solution to his very own existential crisis.

  43. Now excuse me while i go and dig some potatoes. Like i said, i got (hopefully) two-pundred-pounds-plus, in addition to what has already been pulled.

    There is a measurable fraction of a ton, of squash, lying on the ground — so that is a done deal.

    There’s gallons of raspberries in the freezer, and i am not sure that i care, to get the rest — though FYI, peak season is now.

  44. Literally, i am going to dig potatoes — though hell yeah it is hard to get motivated.

    I got Russets to be cut down, and mid-season reds that are thickened up and ready to be dug.

  45. Elk…

    Thinking in “real world accomplishments” when spiritually, mentally and of course physically one could literally do almost anything they “put their mind to” is a recipe for utter self-annihilation.

    I desire white (S)upremacy for Goodness’ sake.

    And I reject self-annihilation for my own Self.

    And you’re still dog paddling.

  46. Gentleman, please. There’s something really effeminate about an excessive amount of minor griping… somebody had to say it.

    Here’s some videos to keep you on task:

  47. Camlost,

    Do not mix a refining with griping.

    I desire white (S)upremacy for Goodness’ sake.

    And I reject self-annihilation for my own Self.

    The individual/collective synthesis at this time of existential crisis cannot be distilled to anything less basic.

    What is left for the high IQ “white” male to say (and that includes you, Camlost) other than “yes” or “no” to the above?

    Vox claims identity trumps ideology, but if your identity is “radically autonomous,” then *you* just are ideological chaos.

    But if you identify as white Supremacist then you signal the will to transcend not just ideology, but the ideology of anti-white Supremacy… The ideology of PROHIBITING EVEN ONE from transcending the ideological white Hate State.

  48. That vid is the worst.

    **********

    Woodland Prairie Farms, of Maine, is my seed potato supplier. I email them my results (my yields), but they don’t add my cute little quips to their catalogue, with their other regulars.

    I suspect they think i am lying. Three or four pounds, per row foot. A row foot in my garden, is one foot, by two foot across. So in a bed 25-feet long and four-feet across? that’s 50 row feet. And then multiply that by three or four pounds.

    I got more than one bed. Never seen anything like it. Just leave em in the ground for now, and keep the beds weeded and clean, and if the weather is not too rainy — those are the good storage conditions. The bugs will get a few, but this aint Ireland in the 1850s.

  49. Vox claims identity trumps ideology, but if your identity is “radically autonomous,” then *you* just are ideological chaos.

    Yeah, you’ve got a good point.

  50. http://field-negro.blogspot.com/2008/07/i-think-that-weve-proven-that-both.html?m=1

    If advocates of gay “adoption” premised their argument with the understanding that the “adoption” was an adoption of less than ideal circumstances and therefore of last resort then the acceptance of such notion might be more accepted.

    As it stands the argument is premised on the idea that gay “adoption” is NO DIFFERENT than traditional adoption. This is a false notion unless one believes that fathers and mothers are NO DIFFERENT and/or perfectly EQUAL.

    So the homosexual advocacy of gay “adoption” premised on equality (equality of homo/hetero, equality of male/female, equality of mother/father, equality of right to adopt) actually undermines the value of mothers AND fathers by claiming no difference and simply ASSERTS the equality of things self-evidently different.

    This in turn undermines their own argument for adoption as they merely represent redundant meaningless “mother/father” combinations that negate the importance of mothers (presumably two lesbians) or fathers (presumably two homosexuals) by claiming their equality or lack of inherent difference.

    What you must say is in these gay “adoption” situations the notion of mothers and fathers must be dismissed and replaced by what? — thordaddy

    So it’s not just a matter of rejecting objective Supremacy… Rejecting the perfect paradigm providing all things with particular purpose.

    It is also a matter OF BEING UNABLE to REJECT the de facto homo lifestyle THAT RESULTS FROM the inability TO SMASH “universal equality” in one’s mind.

  51. “The Wizards of Poz”

    Double indictable!
    This bag of Deplorables,
    “Shitlords”
    Vile “men”-ions
    And cuck sores…
    Alt-rite
    Despite
    Repute
    Of the internal dispute!
    Redux whores…
    Sold to the highest jew
    Jew descend for more
    Radically autonomous
    How jew even a score
    How’d you even
    Afford
    To “shitlord”
    Unless jew
    In with the crew?
    Who knew
    Alt-rite anti-egalitarianism
    And anti-white Supremacy too?

    I Jew.

  52. Openly mocking Hillary in the office today from my crib of despicability.

    The snarky little ex-Mormon, a known Trump-hater, mutters something under his breath and walks away.

    My sexy new ladyfriend is texting me during her spinning class in Newport Beach. My responses, she tells me, almost make her fall off the bike.

  53. Alt-rite anti-egalitarianism
    And anti-white Supremacy too?

    I’d love to see Thordaddy freestyle these lyrics on “Yo, MTV Raps!!”

  54. Who said the logo was anti-WN?

    The logo has the LETTERS AwS within and Spencer is an atheist from what I’ve read.

  55. “A brilliant but jaundiced commenter named K(yle) once expressed that idea with the words “memory of quality fades.” People adjust to the new normal.”

    Fay Weldon’s “The Conspiracy Theorist’s Tale” from her loosely structured novel “The Spa Decameron” [NB: “Decameron” was added to the American release title to help warn readers of the book’s format] opens with the Conspiracy Theorist warning her listeners that, if you’re under forty, you don’t realize how bad things have become.

    Weldon’s novels of late– and I still flay myself for not catching “Chalcott Crescent” yet, since it was set in 2013– have taken astonishing strides towards an Alt-Rightesque point of view.

    There are some naughty male-bashing holdovers in her work, but it’s not clear whether these are serious or just loaded jokes (sometimes her female characters/narrators breezily insist it makes no difference if you get knocked up by a man not your husband, or that an act of adultery is permissible as long as you’re certain that adultery takes place ONLY ONCE).

    Her astonishing “She May Not Leave” ends with an acknowledged superb double-whammy ending, but I would argue it’s actually a triple-whammy if you focus on the very final line of the book– but this is much too far past SPOILER ALERT territory to warrant further discussion.

    Suffice it the book begins with an unwed parenting couple of liberal do-gooders who take in a “Polish” au pair. But things are not as they seem . . .

  56. Has anyone seen the video of Hillary’s latest syncopal episode? Un-fuckin-believable! This is supposed to be our commander in chief? A frail old woman on coumadin who under normal circumstances, should be filling out applications for assisted living facilities.

    I guess this is what the death rattle of an empire in decline sounds like: the raspy cough of a geriatric technocrat, propped up by her handlers so she doesn’t collapse and suffer another brain bleed.

  57. Here’s some videos to keep you on task:

    Camlost, you bringing attention to the shocking degree of violence carried out by blacks is distracting from the real issue we should be discussing: mudsharking. It’s been awhile since we’ve had a discussion about miscegenation on this blog.

    [I think you’re being sarcastic but I do have a draft in the works. Was working on it 2 days ago when the Emblem idea came to me and I focused on that instead. — PA]

  58. That first video is terrible. In the second video is the brown haired white woman an accomplice?

    Yes, the white woman set up her white female friend to be robbed.

  59. PA – I don’t mind the miscegenation topic, it’s your blog after all… it’s just been beaten to death.. the back and forth on that topic with nikcrit gets a bit tedious. (no offense)

    Love the logos btw. Very interesting to see alt-right ideas cross over into the mainstream as the new generation of conservatives start filling the power vacuum left by the neocons.

    It’s funny you mentioned milo the other day in a comment. My mom keeps texting me clips of him, apropos nothing. Of course my mom was red pilled back in the day by attending majority black public schools but had no idea what the alt-right was until Hillary made that speech. My dad on the other hand is your typical boomer conservadad, who says things like “more Mexican immigration will enrich our country!” There’s a little room for both beliefs and I think a open air discussion about these topics is healthy, as nikcrit had stated earlier.

  60. The was a time… Like two seconds ago… When alt-RIGHT MEANT the most race real.

    That’s ^^^ an aggressive stance not passively “always resisting.”

    NOW, it’s alt-rite and a different kind of “cluck cluck.”

  61. you bringing attention to the shocking degree of violence carried out by blacks is distracting from the real issue we should be discussing: mudsharking. It’s been awhile since we’ve had a discussion about miscegenation on this blog.

    Actually, you are incorrect. Just two days ago we mentioned the “police standoff” and pro-BLM rants of Chris Brown. Of course our resident “hybrid” immediately hijacked the conversation and interjected that the white female miscegenator obviously made up the story in order to bring the black man down – all based on his knowledge of how that’s the way the white girls get down at those California parties with the Hollywood brothers.

  62. My sexy new ladyfriend is texting me during her spinning class in Newport Beach. My responses, she tells me, almost make her fall off the bike.

    Good stuff, LBF!

  63. But if Trump loses, I think it’s over

    If Trump loses? it’s over for 20 years. Think long term, my friend. Think of your children’s children’s children. Trump will be a distant memory to them.

    The larger patterns of history, are so well beyond the American Electoral Cycle.

    Are we really thinking of profit margins and job rate patterns?

  64. We ought to be thinking in terms of entomology, and beetle cycles — they will have more effect, on your children’s children’s kids, then this election.

    It sounds pretentious, but on the other hand it’s true, and it’s obvious. If you want to fight tomorrow’s war? get with the program.

  65. MGE…

    You don’t think mudsharking possesses an inherently violent essence equal to homosexuality? You don’t think the desire for radical sexual autonomy is the desire for violent degradation?

    You checked out our political class lately?

  66. Without a stable living environment, that we can live in, and appreciate some families, what’s the point, profit margins and Progress?

    White people and their “civilization”, as the basis for First Principles, for Alt Right? utterly fails. It has been failing for since forever.

    How about you come up with an alternative. Excuse me while i harvest some raspberries. I will get a half-gallon.

  67. “#notquinton”

    “She powered through,”
    Jew know, ma’?
    Park it, son?
    Add jew sum
    Diplomatic insomnia.
    Go to sleep, sheep!
    “Grrrrl power”
    On the Potoma-
    “Cat lady”
    More grating
    Than Catholic lasagna
    Cheese up to her knees
    Sauced drunk by stinky
    Foreign pleas
    Nigger, please?
    A disease of the sickly
    “White” dyke breed…
    Take that momma
    I got all-spite eyes to see.

  68. TD, I’m listening to Genesis “Don’t Care Anymore” while reading the poem. The clipped hard-sounding verse. The rhythm goes well with your poem.

  69. I’m listening to Genesis “Don’t Care Anymore” while reading the poem.

    I like the vicious drumming on that track.

  70. I found a rapper who has agreed to put T-Diddy’s lyrics over some beats, despite the obvious awkwardness of hearing unmelodious terms like “anti-egalitarianism” in a Hip Hop song (as long as TD will tone down the Jewish content a little bit):

  71. “Of course our resident “hybrid” immediately hijacked the conversation and interjected that the white female miscegenator obviously made up the story in order to bring the black man down – all based on his knowledge of how that’s the way the white girls get down at those California parties with the Hollywood brothers.”

    Bullshit. Pure and unfiltered. I made ONE aside about how cops in L.A. often act indignant and outright envious of and toward celebrity decadence; lower-middle-class white rank-n-file cops encountering young and impudent black celeb cads merely ups that indignant factor; i’ve encountered it more than a half-dozen times, which hardly makes me expert but does at least a bit of context into my assertion.

    Ironically, it’s you Cam who’s so quick to assert aggregate-type stereotypical behavior upon that particular ‘type.’ You just did what AND WHILE you falsely claimed I did at the very top of this comment! (Y’know Nikcrit: he’s always quick to play the dupe apologist for all those “Hollywood Brothers” he so envies and makes excuses for, right? lolz.

  72. It’s mixed race people who seem to enjoy talking about miscegenation. I guess it is an opportunity to talk about themselves. Cam is an exception, he never mentions it.

  73. I believe Nikcrit when he says the young cops were jerky to the black celebrities. Cops are jerky to everyone, join the club. I lived next door to one for many years and got to experience it on a daily basis.

  74. How’s this for a writing prompts, Life Before 9/11.

    The reason I put this here is that it is tangentially related to my assessment of the strength and robustness of the progressive coalition’s position, based in part on signs they are growing increasingly bold, unmoored from reality, and dizzy with success.

    With all this talk of 9/11 and the Clintons, I thought back to the Bill Clinton era and it occurred to me how different it felt, politically. Of course the country was younger on average, and more European too: blacks were still the main minority, as they still outnumbered Hispanics, of which we had something like 30 million fewer back then. China had yet to dominate cheap manufacturing and get rich and powerful; few were worried about them.

    To a conservative or libertarian minded individual, Bill Clinton was just another slick, slimy politician. He was just another liberal. Just another swing of the pendulum. He didn’t seem to be the harbinger of any new era of Democratic dominance, quite the contrary. Clintoncare was beaten back. During his campaign, but especially after the Republican Revolution in 1994, his program was forced to become more modest. He was the triangulator, the haver of Sister Souljah moments, someone who – albeit with brazen hypocrisy – paid lip service to idea that the “era of big government is over” and that was a good thing. He was the man who could shove a “don’t ask don’t tell” compromise and also welfare reform down his own party’s throats, the latter despite their delusional but uniform insistence that it would lead to apocalyptic scenarios of destitute suffering. George W. Bush beating Gore in 2000 just felt like validation of a basic pendulum theory.

    But the emergence of Barack Obama felt, and feels, utterly different. Even the word liberal seemed antiquated and reflective of older, more moderate sentiments. He was, instead, a clearly an apologetically radical progressive ideologue through and through who only has to remain silent for his supporters in the press to paint any abstract picture of the cipher they wished, and even today commands a majority in terms of professed approval ratings. We have the rise of a whole generation of horrible SJWs, leaping from one crazy jihad to another. And today Clinton la femme obviously intends to continue with this program full speed ahead without giving any indication of some reasonable stopping point. She doesn’t seem to have to appeal to centrists at all, or distance herself from crazy and murderous race hucksters; she openly embraces them as strategy!

    Now maybe her ticker’s going on the fritz, but my point is that the whole mood seems completely different today. Romney’s predictable loss was an epiphany moment for me. I realized that Romney vs. Obama 2012 was like Reagan vs. Carter 1980, but in a country where Reagan couldn’t win anymore. It seemed as if a normal competent but civil GOPe candidate could never win ever again, and the Trumpening in a way may be a demonstration of that fact.

    But that is just one way to look at it. What thoughts are summoned in your imagination when you think of “life before 9/11”?

  75. The NYPD is probably the most militant and empowered police force in the country. I’m guessing LAPD might be a close second.

  76. Handle – Lion of the Blogosphere gave a concise summary of differences between “Clintonian” electioneering of the 90’s versus today:

    https://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/i-re-watched-bill-clintons-1992-convention-speech/

    Way too much grrlpower stuff, gloating in her sex’s victory over men. Lots of rambling about stuff that has nothing to do with anything important. Lots of talk about leftwing causes like global warming, gun control, minorities, LGBT, “immigration reform” (euphemism for amnesty and open borders). I don’t see how she gets any benefit from this speech.

    As I predicted, a huge departure from Bill Clinton’s 1992 speech focusing on the economy and jobs, with lots of patriotism and Republican-sounding themes to appeal to middle-class white America.

  77. — I don’t mind the miscegenation topic, it’s your blog after all… it’s just been beaten to death.. the back and forth on that topic with nikcrit gets a bit tedious.  (MGE)

    Comments are comments. It’s a place for all to have a good time. I’m having a blast there and as cliché as it sounds, I am learning big-time from everyone. I read every comment.

    As to original articles, I only wrote three posts on mudsharking, out of 118 posts published here. Unspecified mixing also makes a minor appearance in “We Don’t Have to Live Like This,” and I don’t recall it being mentioned in any of the remaining 114 posts. So that’s 2.6% of my writing being dedicated to ‘sharking.

    And it’s also a very important subject because it’s an evil that we have to confront, but we have to do it intelligently when writing about it. Did I confront it intelligently, and in a loving Christian way? The reader is the judge on the former criterion, but I think I did well on both counts:

    1. “How to Help Prevent Mudsharking” is an early post, and it is the blog’s all-time most popular one in terms of page views. I get a daily stream of readers going there via Web searches. It’s a post on parenting that I’m proud of and it’s applicable beyond the subject matter of its title. If it saves so much as one life, the whole blog would have been worth the effort.

    2. “The Coward and the Mudshark” is a short meditation on free will, sin, and chance for redemption. I wouldn’t change anything in it, looking back months later.

    3. “Mudshark: Comedy Or Tragedy” lifts the nominal subject to a larger discussion on belonging, exile, men and women. It sags a bit in the middle but has a strong beginning and finish. Vox Day featured it at Alpha Game.

    4. “We Don’t Have to Live Like This” addresses mixing as one of ten short stories, the other nine being on other subjects, and all united by a common larger theme. Admittedly, “Family Honor” is probably the flattest or weakest of the ten. (I think “The Bridge” and “The Troll” are the best.)

  78. Technically speaking, the “New Superman?” thread was essentially a referendum on miscegenation, with balloting results coming down along somewhat predictable lines. 🙂 🙂

    [dang! I forgot that one! I’ll update the math tomorrow — PA]

  79. I made ONE aside about how cops in L.A. often act indignant and outright envious of and toward celebrity decadence; lower-middle-class white rank-n-file cops encountering young and impudent black celeb cads merely ups that indignant factor; i’ve encountered it more than a half-dozen times

    Maybe your encountering has something to do with it?

    ***************

    Actually though, jokes aside, i agree 100 per cent, with Trickin. Young cops are so dumb young and full of cum, that if you don’t know em, forget about it.

  80. I’m listening to Genesis “Don’t Care Anymore” while reading the poem.

    Phil Collins is a Elton John-type “you-can’t-deny-it” genius. (I wish i had that talent. Well in fact i do but that’s another story.)

    Trickin, with his Duke Ellington pedigree, will want to laugh at this. But hey he’s wrong.

  81. That popular drum riff, that Phil Collins is famous for? you can’t fake that, and you can’t put it up, as an alternative. You have to do it.

    How about a youtube to Miami Vice. I say it’s almost appropriate — if you can make it through the joke at the front-end,

    Actually that vid reminds me of growing up, and my dad, … excuse me while i ball my eyes out.

    That was some good tv.

  82. I read elk that you have not done any research into Mark Richardson’s “autonomy theory” of Liberalism which is a curious thing indeed when one is made aware of PA’s familiarity with Mr. Richardson’s work through Lawrence Auster. In a nutshell, Mr. Richardson conceived Western liberalism as “self-creation” through the negation of “things” not consented to, ie., one’s sex, race, ethnicity, nationhood, religion, orientation. Sound familiar?

    But…

    Where he halted, I “progressed.” Because in the “self-creation” manifested a particular being which then signified a static state and NO AUTONOMY, ie., lack of being. Thus, destruction of the this NOW old and static “self-creation” BECAME PARAMOUNT in order to recapture one’s autonomy. And it is with this elevation of self-annihilation over self-creation THAT ONE MAINTAINS HIS AUTONOMY… And clearly to a radical extent. This is the Maslowian self-realization of an “always changing reality.” And it is quite clear that the decision to invert the self-creation/self-destruction cycle of Liberallsm in favor of self-annihilation is, when one gets down to brass tacks, the most potent indication of the DEATH of high IQ “white” males’ conceptual capability.

  83. You get this elk?

    You can be born an American heterosexual white boy and then call yourself a transient lesbian black girl and this transformation is liberal “self-creation” AS OPPOSED to a real self-annihilation.

    One man’s toilet bowl is another man’s Grand Chalice. That’s radical autonomy… Giving “existence” to self-annihilation.

  84. The problem with giving “existence” to self-annihilation (read: concrete acts of radical autonomy) JUST IS the facilitation of the self-annihilator. And for a white Supremacist, facilitating in the self-annihilation of “white” liberals is the degradation of one’s own free will. And at the very same time, opposing the incredible inertia of the mass of “white” self-annihilators is almost inevitably to lead one into total despair as the desire for “self-creation through negation” is uber-dominant.

  85. Now, where a mass of “white” self-annihilators have found a harmonIzing mechanism in “self-creation through negation,” in a minority of “white” liberals, one will find “identity crisis” DUE negation of the self-creation.

    This is you, elk. The negation of your created self (mainly media instigated, but also self-induced) causes you “identity crisis.” And because YOU ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to conceive white (S)upremacy absolutely then YOU ARE TO BE MIRED in identity crisis perpetually.

    So perhaps a first step would be to ask…

    If I didn’t “farm her,” would I be a drinker?

  86. When matter meets anti-matter, total annihilation is the reality. When the “racist” meets the anti-racist (read: the anti-white Supremacist), alt-rite is the new reality and total annihilation appears averted. That’s radical autonomy.

  87. So if one just peaks the self-creation/self-annihilation cycle of Liberation then it becomes easy to predict the collective outcome. A spiritual, intellectual and conceptual degradation of ability for new self-creation concordant to an increasing fervency to the ease and access of self-annihilation.

    So wallowing in identity crisis when one can strive towards objective Supremacy as a white man AND provide solution to one’s original uncertainty (it’s “who is elk” and not “who are elk’s “people”) JUST IS DESIRE FOR radical autonomy and self-annihilation.

    Elk, you only know “self-creation through negation” WHICH does not suit you. Yet, you have also rejected genuine white Supremacy as a race real “racist.” So you are a race real “racist” anti-white Supremacist. Ergo, a radical “white” liberationist who will not make peace with his identity crisis and his 140+ IQ which is, paradoxically, of no spiritual, intellectual or conceptual value.

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  89. Our blog host recently demanded that Thor comment only after an alternate comment by other regulars —— but above Thor dog managed to sneak in another head-scratching ‘six-pack’ of Thorisms.

    I still just sit back and marvel.

  90. Still looking forward to Handle’s (new) comment. That wordy intellectual SoB.

    You’re right; I was smirking a bit upon you posting your vid; Phil Collins is a pet annoyance of mine; really can’t stand his stuff and there was that period in the late 80s and early 90s in which you could not get away from his singles —— clubs, cars and restaurants, you name it.

    Yet believe it or not I’ve NEVER had to see the guy live. Rejoice! (However, I had to see Dave Mathews 14 TIMES; I actually counted ’em out once.Still don’t know what sin i committed to earn that particular penance.

  91. Nikcrit, I know… it’s easy enough to ban someone. With TD I don’t want to be heavy-handed because he’s on balance OK. That string of comments was actually readable in English and I took it as an effort to communicate. That said, my patience for unwanted preaching is now thin and TD’s further consecutive comments (along with unreadable or nuisance moralizing comments) may well get zapped on sight.

  92. “Trickin, with his Duke Ellington pedigree, will want to laugh at this. But hey he’s wrong.”

    This is what I intended to refer to in my last comment; my apologies, Handle.

  93. “…..the back and forth on that topic with nikcrit gets a bit tedious….”

    Here’s the crux of the matter and its absurdity IMO; the aversion is so superficial in a literal sense; recent genomic research and discovery only heightens that absurdity.

    To wit: Cam and I could be genetically tested and he could be half japanese and half white, while I could be half west African and half Scandinavian and Western European (my Swiss-Swede muttery).

    But there would be no pushback on Cam because he coinicidentally LOOKS white, yet he’s as genetically capable of producting Asian looking kids as much as i’m capable of producing black-looking kids. (I realize the percentage likelihood is that our respective kids would most likely fall inbetween our personal phenotypes —- but it’s genetically possible and not necessarily all that infrequent, the scenario I suggest for exemplar, etc.
    The main point, however, is that IMO, such fealty is so shallow and surface-driven..I mean, much of Cam’s identity as a crew-cut-haired, cap-wearing, truck-driving southern white man is sheerly because he LOOKS white

    I mean, if I married this women, many here would call her a ‘mudshark’—– yet we’re both half-breeds, even though i have darker phenotype.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=danzy+senna&safe=strict&rlz=1C1VFKB_enUS709US709&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=899&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCssLZu4zPAhXFFx4KHSEVBigQ_AUIBygC&dpr=1#imgrc=x1mE732tQd1-xM%3A

    I mean, I could see Ryu, figurative or literal, getting drunk in some white, rural bar, espousing some quasi-militant pro-white crackerjack rhetoric, all the while getting sauced and trying to get in that girl’s pants.

    IDK, I just think it’s so homely and half-assed, much of this race polarity.

    But then i guess I would say that.

  94. I like black people, by the way.

    The “kill all niggers” on the AR scene, is a lot of bs. Milo what’s-his-name is a fag, but is discerning, that much of the extremism (of AR) is simply a reaction against PC.

    KILL NIGGERS now!

    Oven the faggot jews!

    Where is the table for adults?

  95. But like the AR maintains — we have to say these things.

    The jews don’t deserve the slow awful death of being cooked alive. But they sure as hell do deserve something, … and it aint a dicksuckin festival.

    Likewise. NIGGERS don’t have to be killed … but we don’t want em around.

    ****************

    I had a comment in the works, but that thx to the hard-asses around here was self-referentially remanded, about the First Day of School. Which was yesterday. Here is the abbreviated form.

    The apartment buildings in these parts, … were emptying out like Roach Motel 6. I never seens so many niggers!

    What you gonna do about that?

  96. Here’s the crux of the matter and its absurdity IMO; the aversion is so superficial in a literal sense; recent genomic research and discovery only heightens that absurdity.

    What I find notable – and here is an outsider’s perspective without any skin in the game for obvious reasons: the discussions on miscegenation revolve almost entirely around white women. Even the examples you mention, like the BM-WF pairing you saw at school the other day, gave you relief that no one seemed to care.

    My take on it from reading heartiste and other similar blogs, is that white men are competing for a rapidly shrinking pool of non-obese, psychologically healthy white women. They rightly want a mate who shares their aesthetics, culture, and will bear children who look like them. It seems natural that with this level of competition, that white men will be resentful of “usurpers” … especially those who seem to take more than their fair share while they are left with the scraps. Compounding this problem is that in our current politically correct feminist regime, it is the much maligned heterosexual white male who bears the brunt of all social ills – all the while it is the he – the white beta male – who bears the burden of building and maintaining a thriving civilization.

    Now here I am, posting on a topic that just upthread I chastised the blog host and commentariat for their undue fixation. 🙂

  97. The NYPD is probably the most militant and empowered police force in the country. I’m guessing LAPD might be a close second.

    One of the great hypocrisies that I have pointed out over and over is that the elite New York chattering class who has thrown their support behind Black Lives Matter and Ta Nehisi Coates is fully protected from the black underclass by a police regime that would make Bull Conner blush.

    But it’s OK – they are the right kind of white people. Not those icky raaaaycists who live in flyover towns like Ferguson or Milwaukee.

  98. — The jews don’t deserve the slow awful death of being cooked alive.

    Camp inmates were killed by gassing. The crematoria were for body disposal. And it wasn’t just Jews.

    — white men are competing for a rapidly shrinking pool of non-obese, psychologically healthy white women

    A common misunderstanding. Young single White men don’t see things like that territorialy. They compete with each other for White girls over a certain attractiveness threshold. They ignore mudsharks, in whom they wouldn’t be interested in the first place.

    After reaching an age of maturity, we become territorial, a function of our investment in the future generations. At that point, we hate seeing White wombs used as parasite-conduits; its a fundamental matter of honor. And we want there to be future Whites as friends/mates for our children.

    We also understand the market-skew effect that works its way up the female hierarchy when no-standards-having amorous blacks are introduced into the ecosystem.

  99. “Even the examples you mention, like the BM-WF pairing you saw at school the other day, gave you relief that no one seemed to care.”

    That was a footnote to a earlier conversation PA and I had. I didn’t really feel relief; i felt intensely observational in a momentarily academic way, and i pointed that out —— in part to convey my certainty of what i saw and in part because that is a life-long issue for me that in my youth caused uncertainty and anxiety at times. So, yeaahhhhh?

    I recall a earlier thread, that really was deep on miscegenation, and i replied with a long comment about how i do think about bf-wm unions and i even offered my unwanted five-cents worth on what contemporary black women think about bm-wf miscegenation…. imagine that.

  100. I have no desire to kill Jews or black people, I just don’t like being pushed around by them. Liberal northwestern European gentiles are the most frustrating people I deal with personally. They are aggressively liberal and will personally dislike you if you don’t agree with them. They are a good person and you are not. It’s that simple for them.

  101. Nikcrit – I remember that. Wasn’t really directing my previous comment toward you only, just making a general observation.

    Young single White men don’t see things like that territorialy. They compete with each other for White girls over a certain attractiveness threshold. They ignore mudsharks, in whom they wouldn’t be interested in the first place.

    Ok I was just basing my observation on what has been said by heartiste and the comments. Probably not representative of the general population. Though you do say the competition is over White girls over a certain attractiveness threshold… I really think the obesity crisis (and it really is a national health disaster) does not get discussed enough in the context of the broader socioeconomic market. I’m reading Coming Apart right now, in which Charles Murray analyzes the overall fraying of the social fabric of the white population. Young white men are increasingly eschewing marriage and dropping out of the labor market, and he notes that the historic driver of male employment is marriage. When young men get married, they start working longer hours and compete more in the labor market. I think the obesity epidemic has created a large population of women who aren’t really marriage material and this has downstream effects on male participation in competitive jobs.

  102. think the obesity epidemic has created a large population of women who aren’t really marriage material and this has downstream effects on male participation in competitive jobs.

    I think this is largely correct. Explains the lack of drive and ambition among so many young White men. Older guys, too, I suppose. I don’t blame them. The key is to find meaning and purpose elsewhere. God, Church, Mannerbund, Kampf, whatever.

  103. Phil Collins is a pet annoyance of mine; really can’t stand his stuff

    Gotta agree with Nik on this. Phil Collins is the worst, Genesis was a god awful gang of schlock meisters, and if I never hear Collins’ reedy, nasal voice again, it will be too soon.

  104. Nikcrit,
    Maybe it is just a case of both you and Cam identifying more with your fathers than your mothers. That is pretty typical.

  105. When you bounce, you NEVER talk under your breath. You always talk loud and clear with “no” being your most edifying and consistent response to the myriads of drunken objections.

    So when one “hears…”

    I have hard words for thordaddy… There is a raw note to his verbal felicity — but i would criticize his stuff as “thematically derivative”. It is Derivative on his own non-sense. Like his philosophy. It seems that he doesn’t realize that he is dealing with Fellow Humans. We don’t need to be preached; we don’t need a brand-new philosophy courtesy of some guy on the internet.

    And then proceeds with a “no” drunken fool, here is the basis for NOT MY PHILOSOPHY, but YOUR NONSENSE.

    Elk… You are here to drive the nonsense of “radical autonomy” and “self-annihilation” WHETHER you are cognizant of this or not and I am here to shove it back in your grill.

    The X FACTOR is your 140+ IQ?

    You pretend not to know and I just won’t grant you the benefit of nigger.

    I despise white people. — elk

    Lol… “I hate people” is the newest cliché amongst the bar industry crowd. It was “I love you” just a few years ago.

    Elk, you’re part of the sickness. Can I write this any more loud and clear?

  106. The “Paidea School” mentioned in the article… any affiliation with Barbara Lerner Spectre, infamous for saying that Jews must be at the forefront of making Sweden multicultural, I wonder.

  107. Damn… I had to stop at “deer”
    Little white doe
    Slapped me with fear
    Eyes like headlights
    Too paralyzed to steer
    Had to retrain my brain
    Instantly abort that queer
    Path to map
    Out his self-annihilating sphere
    Sharks be circling
    Within that crowd of girly-boyish cheer…

  108. “So white Pianist”

    [new AA girlfriend]: “So you play the piano?.?.”

    [elk]: {chuckles under breath} “Well… You know… My same old song will make jew want to kill yourself.”

    Jew End.

  109. I saw a bro at the gym doing stiff-legged deadlifts. Looks bizarre. Can’t be good for the back.

    Just met a friend for a nooner at my place. Colleagues have no idea. I feel reinvigorated.

  110. With stiff-legged deads, you have to go light-to-medium and stop bending when you feel a pull in the hammies. It’s more of a lower back exercise, one I do time to time, but it requires strict form, as usual, but more so since you can mess up your back. Another variation is the good morning, where you put the weight on your shoulders and bend down. And, you have to bend at the hip, which most people don’t.

    A nooner, eh? You the man, LBF!

  111. If one did ONLY one conventional lift, STIFF-LEGGED deadlift should be your choice.

    Done to form and without self-annihilatng ego it is the very best weight resistance exercise for your lower back.

  112. Used to swear by straight-legged DLs and good-mornings. Now I do manual back extensions holding three 45s to my chest – many sets/low-to-medium reps. My ego was too bold for my spine, and I messed things up a little with the good-mornings.

  113. I do RDLs. Plus squats and chest/shoulder presses. It’s all I’ve got time for these days. My thighs are getting enormous, I’m going to have trouble not splitting my suit trousers. haha

    Mendo ~ Thanks, bro. Weird chick. She said she hoped my colleagues smelled her on me when I got back into the office, which I thought was odd, as if she’s trying to ‘mark’ me.

  114. I don’t even know what you’re talking about, with your gym lingo. On the other other hand, i support it, bros.

    Have about instead we talk bikes? Mileage problems tires.

  115. You try to play the game, with the Right of Way. But you are dealing with (literally) ten thousand cars. And one or two of them is gonna be an incompetent.

    What becomes an interesting subject, is the make-up of them incompetent drivers.

    I aint usually white men.

    *****************************

    White women, on the other hand …

  116. White women–specifically White soccer moms in SUVs–are spectacularly incompetent, hazardous drivers. I see them get away with incredible stunts all the time. Just the other day, I saw a soccer mom get yelled by a large, tattooed shaven-headed White man whom she had cut off in the parking lot earlier.

  117. Little Asian ladies are the worst drivers, by a wide margin.

    I’ve known some country white girls who can change their own oil or run respectable times at your local amateur racetrack.

  118. High-maintenance, prissy white women are also very bad, distracted drivers. In my 43 years on the planet I’ve only been around 2 female drivers with driving abilities I trust enough to sleep in the passenger’s seat on long trips while they take the wheel – one is my current GF and the other was this unimaginably psychotic, nympho country girl I used to date who could drive like Danica, cuss like Truman and shoot like Calamity.

  119. It looks so much better with the white background.

    LOL @ “The image at the top of this post was created digitally for the purpose of art and discussion. Vandalism is against the law.

    Can ~ The best female driver I’ve known was a little Russian-Irish chick I dated in the mid- to late-1990s. She had a Porsche Boxster manual drive and we would zoom around the backcountry roads in Fairfield and Westchester counties.

  120. LOL @ “The image at the top of this post was created digitally for the purpose of art and discussion. Vandalism is against the law.”

    The first sentence falls under Unnecessary Caution. The second sentence is not, in any way, totally not an encouragement.

  121. In resistance weight training, “always resist” is called a “negative” executed to failure.

    In football, the phrase “always resist” is nonexistent… Not applicable and retains no conceptual standing in the aggressive essence of the game.

    In the bounce, “always resist” is a baelf-evident break in protocol and represents a deleterious positioning in relation to the violence at hand.

    And to an avowed atheist, “always resist” is the battle cry of Babel against the paradigm of (P)erfection.

  122. “But it’s OK – they are the right kind of white people. Not those icky raaaaycists who live in flyover towns like Ferguson or Milwaukee.”

    y’know, the tropes and protocols that slowly strangled the life and nobility of 60s civil-rights figures and achievements are slowly working their way into reactionary gripes that are themselves quite tired and worn-out: not every white in the beltway thinks those unfortunate to live west of the Hudson river and on to Los Angeles aren’t all ignorant, underschooled racists. That presumption of liberal arrogance can get just as tired a routine as is leftists who cry ‘racism’ anytime someone agrees with their ideas and agendas.

    it’s also worth noting that there are lot of people on the sidelines, living in the margins and not fulfilling the stereotypes —–and they abound on both ”sides.’ In their gripes, the alt-right often due partisan inversions of what they claim the left routinely does.

  123. In their gripes, the alt-right often due partisan inversions of what they claim the left routinely does.

    Yeah, well your “middle aesthetic” philosophy is tethering you to the oft-heard “there’s bad behavior and exaggeration on both sides of the aisle” idea that is even more trite and hackneyed than anything you just criticized. There is visceral unease and unbalanced hysterics coming from the left to a degree that we’ve never seen from the Right, partly because this is the first time they’ve felt this much power and voice and partly because they don’t have a permanently sustainable agenda that can incorporate compromise.

    The Obama coalition is founded entirely on liberal screech, it’s the only thing that can possibly hold together all of its disparate parts.

    BTW, did you notice the specific audience and location when Hilary made her “basket of deplorables comment?

  124. The global cabal of degenerates are rivaled by their desire for radical sexual autonomy and collectively subdued and controlled via their white hot hatred for the Western world’s most spirited white men.

  125. not every white in the beltway thinks those unfortunate to live west of the Hudson river and on to Los Angeles aren’t all ignorant, underschooled racists.

    Well yeah they have to leave room for us to improve and be bien pensant.

    But no. We’re all ignorant racists and that’s the way it is.

    Some more enword-shouting seems appropriate here, but PA gave me the nix on that. But still and all … god damn blacks.

    Africa is a huge place, of course. It is the way that they “evolved” here in the States in our (how does throb put it?) mutual annihilation society, with mutually reinforced and infinitely regressing memes.

    *****************

    By the way — that idea is right, and i don’t know that thorbro gets credit for it, but it is elegant. We got a mutual annihilation society, with self-selecting and mutually regressing patterns. The fancy-pants Big Men with actual respects in the realface world — aint going to credit thorbro and Suburban_elk quite right now yet, but you watch.

    We are in a mutually destructive relationship, that plays out in all our lives. Oh excuse me while i live in the suburbs — but maybe get a black hooker once in a while?!

    How about nickrit provide the compliment here. How are you dependent, and self-destructive?

  126. It is interesting, to actually be able to talk about it — our mutual self-annihilation that plays off one another.

    I hate niggers, but it aint niggers that i hate!

    This is drunk talk, but there is something to it. We hate society for how it taxes us, is probably the more mature version. But in the meantimes — I Hates me some enwords!

  127. CH has up a good post or two. His not managing how his comments get modded, is unforgivable. And more than that, that the AR kind of thinks it’s him playing sorcerer with it.

    No, he just can’t figure out how to work with wordpress. Which doesn’t give him a (ahem) 150 iq.

    But credit where due, he is alright. But Cam don’t read him. nikcrit can’t stand him. By my standards he is a little gay. Are those true accounts, or not?

  128. A lot of stuff, it’s best just to let go. And not talking about the blogosphere.

    Bad experience in Life. What, you think you gonna be Anton Chigurh, the Ultimate Badass?

    Maybe for a Minute, you are. I read something recently, from the Classics, about how a sure sign of insanity, is spittle on the mouth. Pretty realistically though, that sign can be re-eval’d as simply a symptom of (what else but) late-stage alcoholism.

  129. Women are bad drivers. They don’t recognize the Right of Way. And ON A BIKE it turns into your problem!

    I think back on it all, and the inevitable occasional conflicts, and the demos behind them.

    It is NEVER white men. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER. But white women? can’t drive. The larger point there, is kinda obvious.

    That they are predictably the ones who don’t honor the right of way, …

    Yeah not all women are like that. My experience of loggin a lot of miles over many years and the inevitable miscues and conflicts. And the fact that it’s NEVER been a white man who has accidentally almost killed me.

    **********************

    Can we surmise something, here?

    These women and their mistakes (missing the RIght of Way, and beyond that, Common Courtesy) are just like, I am in a car and you are not!

    Yeah, that is the Rule of the Sea, i know. But on the other hand, the Rules of the Road are not reduced to that — and that they are not reduced to that, is the basis of much of our Compact. Which we apparently don’t have, anymore!

    ****************************

    So is that all exigent enough?

  130. I agree with Nikcrit there are plenty of people who don’t fall neatly into one category. The biggest Trump haters I know reside in Minnesota. Cam is right, though, these liberals are very upset by Trump. There is absolutely no point trying to talk to them about it. I’ve had many personal insults directed at me because of my mild support for Trump. I have decided not to discuss this election with them anymore.
    It isn’t usually black people (except for some elite ones) who have disdain for small town whites.

  131. I was stuck on a train the other day, scrolling through older posts here on my phone. I noticed that a number of them were inspired, directly or otherwise, by Elk’s musing.

    As to fellow goys of the blogworld, I have a dream about y’all once every five years. Most recently it was me and LBF driving a tractor trailer thru some cold place like North Dakota or Alaska and brainstorming ideas for a short story.

  132. — And to an avowed atheist, “always resist” is the battle cry of Babel against the paradigm of (P)erfection. (Thordaddy)

    With that, and your other examples in the comment, it looks like you object to what you see as the implicitly defensive or the negative-value quality to “Resist.” What would you have the letters A.R. spell instead?

  133. “nikcrit can’t stand him”

    Not true. That sentiment would apply more to the commenters, but even there that is not quite so.

    Rather, I’m amused by my sense that it’s CH who can barely stand his devotees —— or, at least a significant number of them. IMO, his disdain for some of his regular commenters is almost tangible.

    I suspect I know some of the reasons why but they should be pretty evident to anybody who can read.

  134. Most recently it was me and LBF driving a tractor trailer thru some cold place like North Dakota or Alaska and brainstorming ideas for a short story.

    Very cool. I hope we weren’t naked and wearing matching trucker hats. That would be weird.

    The only Alt-Right figure who has appeared in a dream of mine is Vox Day, as I mentioned several weeks ago. He and I were at a celebration and press conference after some military victory. My parents were there. Vox and I were both being interviewed by journalists. I looked over at him and he was laughing as a female reporter asked him questions. I like to think we gave each other a thumb’s up, but I don’t recall that happening.

    In recent years I’ve noticed an increase in dreams in which I’m hunting in the woods or fishing some streams, or exploring the swamps (like I did all the time as a kid), or, alternatively, swimming, surfing, and spearfishing at the beach in some tropical location.

  135. “What’s your evidence for that?”

    I haven’t read many posts there this year. But there was a spell of a few months last year in which i posted a dozen or so comments and it seemed ab out the only time he’d throw himself into a comment string was when he would take to task one of his commenters. And it seemed to me that his most acerbic and pinpointed witticisms were directed at his own loyalists. The avatar Travis777 is the only one that comes to mind off the top of my head, but there were other examples.

    IDK; i respect the fact that his critical faculty isn’t blind to those because they simply show some fealty to him and his blog; I also get the sense that he has a general annoyance with those that overpost or over-‘second’ each and every point he (CH) makes; i.e., he doesn’t cultivate or have much tolerance for ‘fanbois,’ though he still generates a fair share of
    ’em.

  136. Elk is right, CH doesn’t seem to understand how to format his page or post images very well.

    His articles would be a lot easier to read if he just took the time to learn how use bullet points.

  137. There are a small number of obsessive commenters at CH who probably have very little social interaction outside of the internet. What little they do have might not be all that positive, either. The alt right definitely attracts oddballs and ornery personalities.

  138. If there’s one group of people I’d love to party with IRL–aside from the folks here, of course–it would be the CH commentariat.

  139. The lack of censorship is what makes the alt right fun and interesting, but I think it is also going to be its downfall.

  140. The only people CH admonishes in the comments section are the obvious trolls, fools, and Debbie Downers.

  141. — The lack of censorship is what makes the alt right fun and interesting, but I think it is also going to be its downfall

    “Downfall” is a little dramatic. There certainly is censorship at CH and elsewhere — the right kind. The trolls, fools and Debbie Downers are slammed by others, if not by the blog host. Witness the beatings Strapon and Bigglesworth get there.

    The beauty of free speech sites is that bad ideas and lies square off against good ideas and truth and the latter destroy the former every time in front of spectators.

  142. The Alt-Right is simply a growing castle of people who reject the lying dogma of our dominant Narrative (the Equals Temple Cult.)

    If you think of political/social thought as a 3-D plot, where the X and Y axes are some conception of traditional Left-Right values/paradigms and the Z axis is adherence to the X,Y coordinate, during the period from about 1984 to maybe 2009 most people were in the muddy middle. The plot was a huge crowd on the left side of the graph, but very few people spiked to a high Z (intense belief in the Equals Temple dogma) while most people were nearby but at very low Z (indicating like a “shoulder shrug,” go-along/get-along attitude.)

    Now, the central Narrative is weakening. People who previously were in that left-leaning muddy middle are finding they can’t go along with the Narrative any longer as it moves further and further left into lunacy and beyond, and they’re striking out in different directions along the X and Y axes. When they find a new home, they are INTENSELY attached to it (AKA a high Z) but what is happening is that instead of one middle ground politicians learned to triangulate to, the plot of society is scattering to create multiple, mutually antagonistic and fervently held belief systems.

    The Alt-Right is one such system. Adherents don’t agree on everything (and don’t need to) but they all do agree on One Thing: The dominant Narrative is a LIE. They cannot unsee the Emperor’s Nudity (imagine if one spied H. Clinton in the buff….!) There’s no going back.

    The old Narrative lasted a very long time (50 years, or more like 500 if you really trace its roots.) It is taking time to turn this miles-long super-tanker. But turn it will. No tree grows to the sky. At this point, the most vocal of Alt-Right adherents are often the most zealous (or the most noisy, anyway.) Their point-and-shriek is aimed at the central dogmas of the Equals Temple cultists, and it looks like they’re screaming heresy in the midst of the sermon.

    When the Narrative truly turns (I think it’s turning, but the real key is interest rates, when they escape to the upside the Narrative will go Full Poseidon Adventure) then what looks like heresy today will be “what everyone thinks,” or at least it won’t seem half as outlandish as American Renaissance reads to most people now.

    We are alive at a very interesting juncture. Turns of this magnitude occur less than once in 300 years. The historically unprecedented period that sowed the seeds of the coming trip over Niagara Falls in a barrel (adventure) has been quite a ride by itself. If we personally avoid the negativity that will characterize it, it may actually be worth popping some popcorn and pulling up a chair to watch. From the safest vantage point we can find, of course.

  143. If there’s one group of people I’d love to party with IRL–aside from the folks here, of course–it would be the CH commentariat.

    Likewise. It’d be great to hangout with a great number of these folk, chew the fat, swap ideas, share stories, etc.

  144. We’re all getting together after we win. You’ll know it’s Victory Day when I post my photo on this blog.

    Short of the fun of meeting fellow resistance bandits, is to have a real-life friend or two read these blogs and shoot the shit about the ideas, personalities, etc. I have two friends who don’t blog or comment, but who read this and related sites. Great conversation fodder.

  145. We are alive at a very interesting juncture.

    Indeed we are. I am both thankful for it and thankful I’m aware of it–with more awareness growing each day.

  146. Debbie Downers aren’t mere personalities. Theyre establishment psyops activists. The system figured out that they can’t sustain their Narrative with dialectic, and that shaming no longer works, so they’re pursuing the Demoralization tactic. Anyone perceptive and who knows what to look for can easily spot that type of shill, and differentiate him from a regular honest commenter who just happens to be a pessimist by temperament.

  147. The pink dildo swastikas made me shun CH comms. I know they are decent to put The Sybian Within in her place, but damn.

    [LOL, “Captain Obvious” is quite the rascal, ain’t he? Fight absurdity with bigger absurdity, I say. But the best anti-Strapon spray is that gif of the topless fat chick being whipped with towels. — PA]

  148. Many eras are under the impression that their time is an utter dead-end in every respect. We might be as fortunate as it gets.

  149. If there’s one group of people I’d love to party with IRL–aside from the folks here, of course–it would be the CH commentariat.

    Let’s hope LBF is bringing the girls.

    I will bring a dog or two.

  150. I’ve been contacted by some good NRx goys in the Bay Area–including some names you’d recognize–and have been considering some kind of meet-up there. Hell, I’ve even thought of moving up there. It would be cool to connect the Alt-Right with the SV crowd. Most of my WN friends have moved out of OC to places like SF, Nashville, and Portland.

  151. Welmer had a meetup in SF shortly before he closed Spearhead. It was unfortunate that he closed it. I started reading it in its final weeks, as he diverged from pure MRA and ventured toward race/national matters. He is an excellent writer and it was a good watching an intelligent liberal approach a bridge that few liberals cross.

  152. LBF, now’s the time to buy in Palo Alto! haha…well, so I’ve heard/read.

    I had once considered moving up there, but too rich for my blood–even considering I’m switching to a more tech-oriented career.

  153. I remember that. If I recall, I was in SF the weekend before or after that meet-up. I read his blog for a few years until he closed it. There was an annoying Patel or two who hung out in the comments section. Seems like a good man. Hope he’s doing well.

  154. “How about nickrit provide the compliment here. How are you dependent, and self-destructive?”

    I’m not sure I know exactly what you’re getting at with your question, but i think i catch the general drift: I too often feel that I’m tethered and intertwined with the various ‘system’ or ‘establishment’ that I, we, everyone, so often feel disconnected from and that inspires criticism.
    WTF really can say they’re totally free of that system; it’s impossible, unless you live some sort of Emersonian or Thoreau-like detachment as your philosophical starting point. Elk’s suburbanite-and-occasional-hooker-consumer type illustrates the ‘weekend transgressive’-type indulgences that come with western societies everywhere; T-daddy dismisses such behavior is doomsday-esque ‘self-annihilation,’ as elk for the sake of academic exercise now indulges, but many other western theoreticiand and/or advocates consider such transgressions as healthy catharsis, i.e., temporary indulgences that, upon resuming of the more noble ethos, help things run that much better, etc.

    Or something like that.

  155. Mendo ~ Haha! It’s out of control up there. $1M for a crap shack. No thanks! OTOH, I heard that Oakland and Richmond might be coming back.

  156. There are a surprising amount of whiteopias just north of SF. We try to keep them a secret from outsiders. Google “bolinas” for an example. One road in, one road out. Any roadside signs get torn down.

    Ken Miller and William T. Vollman did a coffee table book about skinhead nazees in SF in the 80s and 90s. Open All Night is the title.

    SF and the Bay Area in general is very misunderstood by outsiders.

  157. I some artist friends that reside in Oakland. They tell me it’s sadly becoming SWPL territory. Portland/Oregon coastal towns are a good shot, if you know where to roll.

  158. Lothar ~ Exactly. North of SF is doable. Marin and Mendocino counties. About 20 years ago I recall there was a guy named Hamilton B. based in SF who was promoting his ‘Little Europe’ idea. Not sure what happened to him.

  159. “[LOL, “Captain Obvious” is quite the rascal, ain’t he? Fight absurdity with bigger absurdity, I say. But the best anti-Strapon spray is that gif of the topless fat chick being whipped with towels. — PA]”

    lozlzolz Well, I thought the same thing at first too, but my sources are telling me that’s supposed to be a guy!

    To preempt the charge of using an anvil to kill an ant, which I figured would be forthcoming in the current SarUh bug kill (I know it’s tedious, but really it has to be done, and this morning we’ve reached a milestone as Greg has publicly acknowledged the “uh”/”wrong side of history” connection which I’ve identified months ago and been laboring to reveal), I’ve begun some satirical poems, which perhaps will edify few to none, but at least can serve to keep my Muse sharp through this momentous season. This is my meme-magic homage for Tennyson’s The Kraken:

    Beneath the platitutes of the upper pundits,
    Far beneath the web of soft-swollen repute
    Uprears, restless, resenting elitest surfeits,
    Wondrous KEK: woke to revenge, refute
    Those shadowy sponges who soak the light
    Of life from millennials left to blight,
    Who condemned ‘em to weed-fumed healthless cells,
    Broke-backed with debt, left friendless incels.
    These have lied for ages, dark in their grots
    Battening upon nations, making their boast
    To school for chains trusting Christian tots
    Till they rear down their ranks, a slavish host.
    KEK’s wrathful fire, worm-wrought nations shall purge
    As angels and men upon the portent gaze,
    And lo! Through the polls Trump’s mammoth surge
    Unstops the mouths of righteous, risen rage!

  160. Lucius, the anvil is allright. You may not be familiar with Promoting Justice. It’s a militant afrocentric character I created and deployed on a now-closed blog, with the owner’s permission, to hound an anti-racist troll.

    The act was very effective. I expanded PJ’s mission to go after race-cucks. Changed my writing style to avoid unmasking as “PA” by sticking rigorously with a subject-verb-object sentence structure and no punctuation except periods.

    Playing “Promoting Justice” was a riot. I still remember one of his cold blooded militant sayings: “to know your place is to know mercy.”

  161. PA, what do you know about Welmer closing the Spearhead?

    I’d like to know why he did it. I was there when he banned all the WNs from his site and devoted it entirely to MRMer stuff.

    Do you know why Simon Rierdon killed himself? I’d like to know that too.

  162. PJ was so effective because he was more militant than the anti-racist troll, for which I was holding him to task, and “trying” to recruit him. It made my target visibly nervous.

  163. Ryu, I don’t know. He made no announcements prior to closing it, and gave no hints of winding down his blogging. As MRA, his strategy was to focus in that, to the exclusion of parallel interests like WN. I disagree with that strategy but respected his decision. I’ve never heard of Simon R.

  164. PA…

    I would suggest Robert Spencer kill and bury his atheism, convert to white Supremacy NOW rather than being reluctantly “forced” later SO THAT “always resist” is understood within the context of a white man resisting his self-annihilation in the here and NOW and always.

    AS IT STANDS, “we” have perhaps the leading alt-rite figure as AVOWED ATHEIST and REJECTOR of a Perfect “operating paradigm” (think Nicene Creed and how Spencer’s ideas are literally unmoored and have no inherent origin or destination DUE his “metaphysical” first principle) and another leading alt-rite figure WHO PLAIN DENIES that the alt-rite anti-egalitarian is, AT LEAST, a (s)upremacist, ie., one who believes in subjective superiority.

    Charlatans is a word that comes to mind. A total encompassing of the zeitgeist comes to mind. “The enemy within” comes to mind. “Always Resist” white Supremacy AS THE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE comes to my mind.

  165. Take a guess, then.

    A man does not just quit blogging, cold turkey, after devoting himself to it for 6 years. Doesn’t happen. If he were a racist, I’d guess that someone threatened to out him and get him fired. He was not a racist, and his WN was very weak. No one would threaten him for that.

    I would say because he knew the MRM and PUA movements were dead. So what if every man learns PUA or the MRM? That doesn’t stop Muzz or spic invaders, nor affirmative action or Murkan politics.

  166. Oh…

    …another leading alt-rite figure WHO PLAIN DENIES that the alt-rite anti-egalitarian is, AT LEAST, a (s)upremacist, ie., one who believes in subjective superiority.

    If one is anti-egalitarian, one is, AT LEAST, a (s)upremacist. — thordaddy

    You’re banned for lying AGAIN, Thordaddy. Your idiotic argument has been repeatedly disproven and yet you continue to present it as fact. — Vox Day

    This is DAMNABLE in light of the “Equals Temple Cult.”

  167. Excuse me…

    RICHARD Spencer… I have read was an avowed atheist.

    Translation: believer in total annihilation.

  168. And speaking of Robert Spencer, his anti-jihad stance was really pro-western liberal degeneracy. He is still fundamentally anti-wS proving that in a radically autonomous environment, an enemy of my enemy is still an enemy.

  169. It’s very simple..

    If you believe physical death –> Heaven/hell…

    Or if you believe physical death –> total annihilation…

    ONLY EGALITARIANISM has one concede to an equal wordly “operating paradigm.”

    Alt-rite is not only attempting to create this fusion, it is doing so by appearing “racist” yet “nationalist”,” but ultimately socialistic at heart.

  170. Cam, nothing gets my blood boiling more than vids like those. I want to say that both white and black kids were snickering and laughing; but in truth, black kids were doing it, or remaining poker kids…… one or two white kids were grinning, but all the rest were poker-faced but with a look of dread on their face, that sort of said “WTF is coming next?”

    Depressing as fuck.

  171. Do you consider Santa Rosa and wine country such a place? (a potential wn enclave north of the bay area). I got a job offer there when i was an intern; i was pretty sure where i was going to land in fall but went out for the interview anway, basically to enjoy the three-day stay paid for by the publication; the vibe i got from that admittedly limited exposure was a white upper-middle-class respite in the middle of the desert-meets-rolling-vista wine country, with the citizenry either upper-middle-class Cali-style, or migrant field workers crammed into tiny apartments on the outskirts of downtown or set back from the highway in wine-country proper, a good 20-30 minutes out of the city…… SR is about a 45-minutes or so outside of SF proper, if i recall correctly.

  172. “…Thoreau-like detachment…”

    nkcrit, maybe explain this one? His battles never transcended prosaic quibbles, because his epoch wasn’t much more than a prosaic quibble. If he was around today, he’d make a Kaczynski’s antics look like some minor drill for the cub scouts. He was fully down for his cause – never simply the hallowed essayist his older comrade was in practice.

  173. “nkcrit, maybe explain this one?”

    I’ll humbly defer on this one; your question clearly exceeds my level of context and conviction on this one; i was just going for the vague ‘ruminating in natural solitude’ vibe -vs- contextual thought mindful of the urbane realpolitik, etc.

    Perhaps Lucius could provide you with a higher quality opinion on your question? As i’ve confessed in recent threads, i’m pretty spotty lit-wise once we get before the 20th-century.

  174. I was watching Dr Phil recently. There was an attractive, but definitely not talented tenth black woman who was having major behavioural problems with her adolescent daughter. The mother had gotten so angry at her she had threatened to blow her head off. She was seeking advice. When Dr. Phil recommended parenting books she described them as eurocentric and said, “that stuff does not work for black kids”. What do you think about that?

  175. Somebody / somebodies like the post titled “Freedom” from February, as it’s now getting a surge of views. I can’t tell which site linked to it or what they’re saying about it, so at least I hope they enjoy reading it.

  176. When Dr. Phil recommended parenting books she described them as eurocentric and said, “that stuff does not work for black kids”. What do you think about that?

    Is this a trick question?

    99.9 of that market, of reading parenting books, is upscale white girls and Asians and misc assorted top-class minorities. It is literally one per cent and less, of that market, that is black, reading parenting books.

    99.9 might be an overestimation. 99 is not.

  177. Obviously i got my own problems, but might not can i ask, Lara, what for you watching Dr Phil?

    I watched some of that white trash tv, on a lark, back when i was hanging with army recruits, waiting to get submitted to get my legs blown off.

    Twenty years ago. I was 28. They were 18 and all like What are you doin here?

    They were right, as it turned out.

  178. When I was at MEPS circa 25 years ago (the two-day military recruiting center where you take the mental aptitude and physical tests, they put you up at a motel, and then it culminates with a swearing-in ceremony, after which you are legally bound) — there was one chubby kid who lost his temper while we were all filling out some forms. He got pissed off at a sergeant in charge being terse with the group. The kid dramatically threw his papers off is desk and said “I’m done with this bullshit” and stormed out of the room. I guess his life took a direction that did not include military service. Does he regret his dramatic flourish? Legs weren’t getting blown off then yet.

    While processing at MEPS, I struck up a friendship with a fellow Army recruit who chain-smoked, and we elected to be roommates at the overnight motel, since they gave us the smoker/nonsmoker choice and I smoked then too. We were up till 3 AM talking and smoking. I had Camel Lights, he had Marlboro Reds. Then our orders sent us in different directions.

    It’s easy to look people up on facebook now, but I don’t remember his name. It’d be cool to get in touch with him now.

  179. The path not taken, PA. They didn’t let me in … due to … various problems.

    I regret it, but on the other hand, it’s great to have four limbs.

    I saw some guy just this morning or yesterday whenever, with a mechanical device, attached where his leg should have been. He seemed ok. I hope it doesn’t hurt him too much — but there’s got to be a lot of pain, on the other side of the smiles.

  180. Fred Reed covered that a lot, and his c. 2003 articles weaned me off the patriotardism. He was making points about middle-aged men with colostomy bags or in wheelchairs being driven to insanity with anger over having believed the rah-rah bullshit which was nothing but oligarchs spending & wasting idealistic young men to get more rich.

  181. But what’s the real issue?

    The real issue is that if a critical mass of white males come back from foreign war with phantom agony due amputated appendages then this becomes the metric of white male’s manhood versus those who refused volunteering for the oligarchs. You can already feel this encroaching regression in San Diego where military amputees, male and female alike, have exponentially surged.

  182. I saw one a few week ago at Target… Fresh and still in the wheelchair… Seemingly glowing from the sheer novelty she must have been experiencing vicariously through all the “shocked” and saddened “attagirls.”

    It was a devilish indictment of MRKA 2016. A real life abomination.

  183. Three issues will define the downfall of the alt-rite:

    The refusal to call out the nigger thus signifying his total unwillingness to separate from his most villainous antithetical.

    His soft tolerance for abortion and the subconscious belief in the good that could have been his mother’s “right” to terminate him.

    And lastly, his sight of a teenage female “war” amputee followed by a gleeful rah-rahing of the real “equality” and fairness of it all.

  184. The Alt-Right is just getting started.

    What kind of person would begin talking about its “downfall”?

    It’s almost as if you (and “Lara,” who has also wanted to discuss its “downfall”) want it to fail.

    Concern trolls, fuck off.

  185. Why go to Iraq or Afghanistan when our real adversaries are flourishing at home?

    Patriotards who enlist to go fight overseas are totally missing the point.

    Dupes.

  186. And that, I believe, is how veterans should be viewed: as victims of a scam.

    Not just the ones with visible injuries, either.

    I suspect there’s a lot of rage within the veteran community that hasn’t been properly tapped and exploited for our project.

  187. I never watch Dr. Phil. I was just flipping channels and happen to see this. Some children are much more physical than others. They might respond better to a physical punishment than a less active child. A woman I know, with a Jewish son, was watching a group of boys play sports. She said, “They are all boy. I never really had that”. Her son would require different parenting tactics than those boys.
    I am not cheering the downfall of the alt right. I just think lack of censorship is good and bad. I don’t get offended so much as I get tired of reading the same thing over and over. I probably should spend less time reading alt right sites. Two things I see the alt right accomplishing are immigration restriction and political correctness falling out of favour. Both things are huge. Day in, day out life probably won’t change much, though.

  188. I can’t view the videos Cam posted, but I’m guessing it is a group of blacks assaulting a white person. I think whites need to be proactive. The police can only do so much, and part of me would rather not be so dependent on them. Traveling in groups would be a big preventive measure.

  189. Cam, nothing gets my blood boiling more than vids like those.

    Trickin is a sensitive fellow, and Africa is a big place. So many kingdoms.

    On the real, the geography defies common sense. Did you know, what is the second biggest animal, in the world? it aint the hippo, it is the rhinoceros. God Bless them.

    *************************

    The problem is the park, and the playground, and the kids therein. We can’t have our kids there together. Liberals will get that, and that’s why they move out to their suburbs, and get there so-called Principled Exceptions. (As an aside, which phrase has taken me some time to grasp.)

  190. You mean land animal. The right whale or sperm whale would have to be the 2nd largest animal on earth after the blue whale.

  191. A school district near me decided to pay for more buses for the black students. They can only sit one per seat or fights will break out. They really don’t get along any better with each other.

  192. Whites living in close proximity to blacks tend to raise tougher boys. Country boys can be tough, too. I suppose that is one positive outcome.

  193. Unprincipled Exception is how liberals profess their liberal beliefs, but make the “unprincipled exception” when they stand to be harmed by living by their own creed. Example: celebrating diversity while avoiding personal contact with it.

  194. I went to a nearly all-White high school that skewed upper-middle class, with fringe redneck/headbanger cliques being the only visible outliers. There was no shortage of tough Whites across social classes there. Boys get wimpy because they are browbeaten with “you’re raaaacisssss” child abuse from birth onward. Absent that, they see to it that any ass kicking that needs to be done, gets done.

  195. They can only sit one per seat or fights will break out. They really don’t get along any better with each other.

    Just like back home in Africa.

    Something you can test for yourself is that anytime you are in proximity to 1 or more black women together, just eavesdrop casually and you can see that (literally) about 75% of the time their conversation will consist of heavy griping about another person or they are recounting some “drama” where they were telling someone off.

    And there’s been countless news items like this one where some black woman in public went berzerk after being politely asked to quiet down her cell phone conversation by nearby white folks who didn’t want their children hearing the loud, angry profanity:

    https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140409/flatiron/woman-hurls-ketchup-bottles-after-being-shushed-for-talking-on-cellphone

  196. “He was making points about middle-aged men with colostomy bags or in wheelchairs being driven to insanity with anger over having believed the rah-rah bullshit which was nothing but oligarchs spending & wasting idealistic young men to get more rich.”

    Yeah, that’s a complicated deal, man. I mean, I can imagine staring at your missing limb while pondering over the mindset you once had and that put you in that position; it’s easy to see how that would be maddening, literally.
    Still, I’ll give ’em all the credit in the world for having that constitution, conviction and just sheer ability to put themselves in harm’s way and then cope with the harm that came.

    I mean, the hindsight context makes them look like dupes —– but that can happen to anyone with the benefit of time; the valor is solid and indestructible. Of course, Dalton Trumbo’s the one who turned your comment and observation into cult-classic lit:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun

  197. it’s also worth noting that there are lot of people on the sidelines, living in the margins and not fulfilling the stereotypes —–and they abound on both ”sides.’ In their gripes, the alt-right often due partisan inversions of what they claim the left routinely does.

    Yeah I can be polemical at times to make a point. But I’m not talking about your average guido on staten island. I’m referring to the Cathedral operatives that frame the Overton window. The elite journos, policy makers, Ivy League professors, NGO staffers, virtually all of Hollywood. As demonstrated by Charles Murray, these people come from a nearly uniform socioeconomic and educational background and have ensconced themselves in a bubble that is unrecognizable to most Americans… this phenomenon has emerged in the past 50 years. In America, our classes were not previously so disconnected from each other. From this dynamic emerges one standard for the Ferguson PD, and another for the NYPD… Do you really think the Obama administration would go after NYPD the way they did with Ferguson? No … it’s evidence of the new upper class haughty disdain for ordinary Americans. . . they get to live in a police state, protected from the underclass, while simultaneously wagging their finger at the racist rubes who don’t even read Ta Nehisi Coates.

  198. And there’s been countless news items like this one where some black woman in public went berzerk after being politely asked to quiet down her cell phone conversation by nearby white folks who didn’t want their children hearing the loud, angry profanity:

    New footage has emerged from the Yale Halloween SJW meltdown.

  199. The angry black SJW says:
    “And now I want your job taken from you.”

    This is the new reality we live in. And people wonder why we come on to the internet to discuss these things, without the PC hall monitors breathing down our necks.

  200. I’’m referring to the Cathedral operatives that frame the Overton window. The elite journos, policy makers, Ivy League professors, NGO staffers, virtually all of Hollywood. As demonstrated by Charles Murray, these people come from a nearly uniform socioeconomic and educational background and have ensconced themselves in a bubble that is unrecognizable to most Americans… this phenomenon has emerged in the past 50 years.

    You should read this book,

    https://www.amazon.com/Big-Test-History-American-Meritocracy/dp/0374527512

    it does a excellent job of explaining how that relatively recent elite your refer came into being: standardized testing, i.e. The S.A.T., the LSAT, the G.R.E.

    Ironically, he explains, the reasons those tests came into existence was to curb the elitism and inherited status class that then occupied the Ivy League and other top colleges, therefore leading to top jobs and political positions; standardized testing was supposed to be the initial Affirmative Action; blank-slatism was the prevailing mindset of that era, and not just among democrats. The seeds to much of what you lament were planted in the early 60s.

    I would argue with your contention that “In America, our classes were not previously so disconnected from each other.” Workers in the early 20th-century worked for magnates like Jaye P Morgan, a billionaire, for a dollar or two per day; the Depression in the 30s was a ‘poverty of abundance,’ in which millionaires and billionaires went on like it was biz as usual. I’m almost certain there existed more income disparity then compared to now, however much it’s a problem in our here-and-now.

    Basically, in western societies prior to the 1960s, intra-European stature and class rank correlates near perfectly with aggregate IQ —— with one exception: Jews. And they were the group who most benefitted from standardized testing and the ‘meritocracy’ such tests created. (It’s funny how a lot of alt-righters and other goy reactionaries consider a ‘meritocracy’ to be something that is basically the opposite of what the term meant 40-some years ago.

    But whatever the prevailing modus operandi in terms of academic admissions and professional hiring, there will always be skewed results and from that dissent, dissent and then more dissent.

  201. The kid dramatically threw his papers off is desk and said “I’m done with this bullshit” and stormed out of the room. I guess his life took a direction that did not include military service. Does he regret his dramatic flourish? Legs weren’t getting blown off then yet.

    I applied for a national guard scholarship and made it through MEPS processing but bowed out shortly after (I didn’t have to take any oath or commit at MEPS I believe because I was applying to be a CO). My decision came down to a cost benefit analysis… was I willing to be at their mercy for the next 7 years or so of my life for the scholarship sum they offered? I don’t regret my decision, that is until I get my FedLoan statement in the mail each month 🙂

  202. it does a excellent job of explaining how that relatively recent elite your refer came into being: standardized testing, i.e. The S.A.T., the LSAT, the G.R.E.

    Murray goes into extensive, almost pedantic detail about the phenomenon of cognitive sorting producing class and geographic stratification since the 60s. Prior to what he calls the “big sort,” brought upon by standardized testing and elite college admissions, high IQ citizens were likely to have remained in the same type of communities as everyone else. Perhaps they would be a local banker, pharmacist, or what have you… but they were also likely to remain in lower prestige jobs like auto mechanic or farmer. He does not condemn the sorting phenomenon that has taken place as it has better matched people with cognitive ability to careers that make use of their ability and thusly has produced tremendous economic output. I haven’t finished the book yet, so I’m not sure what his solution for solving the problem of the “bubble” – that is the disconnect between the cognitive elite and those left in what he calls “Fishtown.”

    Workers in the early 20th-century worked for magnates like Jaye P Morgan, a billionaire, for a dollar or two per day; the Depression in the 30s was a ‘poverty of abundance,’ in which millionaires and billionaires went on like it was biz as usual. I’m almost certain there existed more income disparity then compared to now, however much it’s a problem in our here-and-now.

    True, though I think the Depression Era was a notable exception to the general egalitarian American spirit Tocqueville noted – that Americans did not recognize class in the way that their European forebears did (blacks were an obvious exception). Even during the Depression one could say that most people in the country were faring poorly aside from the few Robber Barons.

    But whatever the prevailing modus operandi in terms of academic admissions and professional hiring, there will always be skewed results and from that dissent, dissent and then more dissent.

    I’ve brought this up before, but I can not recommend this book enough: Real Education by Murray. It is a quick, easy read in which he sets out to solve the problem you describe above. I think it would be a very useful book for you in your public school admin position.

  203. MEPS?

    acronym for Military Entrance Processing Station… basically you spend the day at the station filling out tons of forms and go through all kinds of physical exam screenings.

  204. The Alt-Right is just getting started.

    What kind of person would begin talking about its “downfall”? — LBF

    No, it’s not “just getting started” and the kind of person who would begin to talk about its downfall is the same person not wanting to get his limbs blown off for a bunch of devious-minded charlatans and can spot the “unprincipled exceptions” utilized by its “leaders” to dupe its followers.

    Rotted minds cannot lead one anywhere but towards rotten places.

  205. “That Americans did not recognize class in the way that their European forebears did (blacks were an obvious exception).”

    Yes, since America’s coming into being, its been averse to having a formal class system; I believe it’s that founding outcast status that many neo-Americans were relegated to in Europe that makes folk here to this day ambivalent about being openly exclusionary toward ethnic and religious ‘others,’ even if at times it’s to their own social and domestic demise.

    Neo-right calls for ‘white unity’ are sound and deserving in light of other groups coalescing; but it is undeniable that the current concept of a ‘fellow white’ would not be accepted among Europeans when the country formed; intra-European class castes were then more entrenched than modern-day b-vs-w racial tensions are today.

  206. White Supremacists and European socialists are two difference “animals.” There is no alliance. The multi-Euro ethnic war on white Supremacy is REAL with both Neo-Nazis and and Commies inflicting their symbotic regression on what’s left of regenerate white America.

  207. WN is going to be a tough sell. Whites still see each other as the biggest competition, especially in the sexual market place. It is older white men who seem to have the most anger toward Donald Trump. That’s what I’m observing.

  208. One of my biggest blog humiliations was the fact that i actually replied to a few “Promoting Justice” questions seriously!

    We still love ya.

    (But to get all meta, that is about the funniest comment i ever read.)

  209. 40 “migrants” get drunk and attack their guards at migrant facility in Germany:

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/14/40-migrants-attack-security-german-migrant-camp/

    100 rightist protestors attack 20 “migrants” who taunted and threw bottles at them.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3790605/Mob-100-neo-Nazis-vicious-street-fight-migrants-German-riot-police-pelted-bottles-asylum-seekers-protecting.html

    “Migrants” brutally fight each other in processing center in Dortmund.

  210. The thing about that Camlost video (and i knew he would come through for us) — is that no one is fighting to win.

    Know what i am saying?

    Yeah you can be a drunk clown, and throw a chair around, …

  211. The thing about that Camlost video (and i knew he would come through for us) — is that no one is fighting to win.

    I’m guessing there’s probably some rivalry they brought with them that existed prior to their “act of love” to “migrate” to the West, probably Sunni vs. Shia or Syrian vs. Kurd or something along those lines.

    And, as Sailer points out, it’s pretty stupid to import massive amounts of people who show little capacity to get along with others or find compromises that allow for stable economics in their countries of origin.

  212. Neo-right calls for ‘white unity’ are sound and deserving in light of other groups coalescing; – nikcrit

    WN is going to be a tough sell. Whites still see each other as the biggest competition, – Lara

    Most Intelligent whites consider identity politics unseemly and beneath them. White people naively believed that post Civil Rights era, culminating with the election of the biracial Obama, people would abandon identity politics and unite under an American identity. But the problem has only gotten worse.

    The problem is how should whites proceed ethically and responsibly when everyone else is playing that game, and definitely sees you as a part of an identity group, and is unwilling to abandon tribal politics.

  213. — The problem is how should whites proceed ethically and responsibly when everyone else is playing that game

    As things get nastier — and there are no signs of any of the anti-White nastiness letting up — expressions of concern for “ethically and responsibly” will sound hollow. They will sound like appeals to the sportsmanship of lining up your Redcoats in ranks when Minutemen are firing from behind walls and trees.

    Whites are not monsters, which is why we havent yet incinerated the toxic biomass. I saw a White doofus in military uniform wave thru an angry looking sheboon, prolonging my wait in traffic and it reminded me that it’s a wrong signal to send. The era of Nice White People is coming to an end, and it is neither ethical nor responsible to keep those who have been fooled into failing to fear us, fooled any longer.

  214. <em<Most Intelligent whites consider identity politics unseemly and beneath them. — MGE

    Which is rather like saying “they” aren’t very intelligent. In fact, “they” are liberating “white” self-annihilators. Of course, “they” get no help from the liberationists to their “right” whose most “intelligent” “leaders” are themselves unable to conceive an identity politics THAT IS TO BE (w)hite (S)upremacy.

    So the “game” is two cutthroats giving the appearance of rivalry (for the purpose of pilfering the dull mass) WHEN the fundamentally mutually-shared “operational method” is “any means necessary.”

    Ergo, any healthy-minded white man who happens upon a sub-optimal human-like creature operating “by any means necessary” CAN JUSTLY, RIGHTFULLY AND RATIONALLY ANNIHILATE (in degrees according to the transgression) said creature upon this creature’s “any means necessary” execution against the being of the healthy-minded white man.

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