Life

Cynicism generally aims in the direction of truth, but it lacks the range to reach it. Cynicism’s overcorrection, the Pollyanna placebo, demoralizes. So instead, we push through the lazily mechanistic and the anodyne cowardly thoughts, to face the sun.

Nothing stops me from turning my back on everything and henceforth surfing lively comment threads while drinking myself to death. It’s comforting, knowing that I can leave it all behind. But that would be an anxious, irremediable slide.

I met a man whose wife contradicts everything he says. It is clear that he had never told her, in private: you need to shut your mouth. The imprisoned modern men forgot that they don’t have to live like this.

The immortals on Olympus were superior to us by every measure, yet they envied mankind for the one thing we have, that they wanted — our capacity to feel. For men and women, it all hangs on a thin string. That makes the dark more terrifying to us, and the cold glass of water more quenching.

I faced the sun over the three-day poolside weekend. The tendrils of joy will live in their hearts for the next eighty years. This didn’t just happen by itself. I don’t have the luxury of letting my attention float away like a balloon.

What do you think about life?

 

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161 thoughts on “Life

  1. Life is for the Living.

    ****************

    I got 12 songs on my phone (of me on the piano), and hopefully yet 200 pounds of potatoes, in the ground. What do you have to show, for this Summer?

    Those are real-world accomplishments that are simple, but hey what can you do.

  2. Very thoughtful stuff. It is your Polish side, showing through?

    Come to think of it — we don’t know, who the Poles are. We think of them as Russian cousins — but perhaps in Poland, those are fighting words?

    Poland is a huge chunk of Europe, about the size of Texas. Obviously the people there, have a lot to show for themselves … aside from a red-and-white flag and notoriously well-breasted women.

    Poland is sort of the playing field of Europe.

    What did they farm there, before starting in with potatoes?

  3. It is hard to even think, of that part of Europe, without thinking of potatoes. And yet potatoes are courtesy of the damnable savage Red Man.

    How in the hell did you all survive the winter; beetroot turnips sorghum and whey, and red rice?

    ******************

    Speaking of Life, if there is one place i want to go in Europe, it is Poland … and not to be some Roosh jerk-off, hitting on the women.

    I want to see the People there. Poland is the hardscrabble battleground of Europe. I have met a number of emigrated Poles, but PA says that they are a different sort, back in the home country.

    (Don’t worry, i am not going to hit on the women. I know the local old boys, will not tolerate it. But on the other hand? the local old boys have to allow for some sexual selection.)

  4. “This final election run is going to change quite a bit about Life in the USA.”

    How so? Prompt debate? Prompt a cultural war? Heighten existing conflict or tensions?

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  6. Where I’m at right now in my life, with all the ups and downs and hindsight views of “woulda, coulda, shoulda”, I realize that it’s all in my control* where I go from here forward.

    It’s freeing, and a times daunting, only because I don’t want to make a misstep like in yesteryear, but those are just fleeting moments that creep up at the wrong times and quickly dissipate when I realize anything can happen.

    *I say this as a God-fearing man, realizing that though I might have my plan, He’s got His plan for me and in macro-sense, He’s in control.

  7. Your friend has a lot to live for. First of all, at this point any normal woman will seem like a goddess compared to his wife. If he chooses to go the divorce route, my guess is he’ll find someone better quickly. If he wants to stay married, he has a lot of work to do to turn around a very dysfunctional dynamic.

  8. How so? Prompt debate? Prompt a cultural war? Heighten existing conflict or tensions?

    Like you suggest, a combination of those things.

    Instead, how about you opine on it, good sir?

  9. *I say this as a God-fearing man, realizing that though I might have my plan, He’s got His plan for me and in macro-sense, He’s in control.

    As your apostatized footnote suggests — you are not in control. That is totally an illusion, young sir. You will learn that.

  10. It’s gloating, off-topic, and transferring the last thread to the present one, but– and I mean this so seriously–I have forfeited one of the great rewards of my life by not BEING THERE when THIS happened:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/09/07/open-borders-update/#comment-795531

    And all because I wasn’t patient enough. As soon as CH quoted SarUh in the OP, I dashed off my Ozymandias parody and left it unattended. But I forgot the action, though delayed, would come– because I know CH knows the score, and I should’ve waited with bated breath for the hammer to fall because, as one who has employed Game throughout the Troll War, I knew CH had set a trap, and we would only have to wait . . . .

    Elk, if you want to see what our little friend sarUh’s brilliant good faith sounds like, just take a gander at the petticoat junction above. OMG the sheer perfection of her stupidity! I’ve enjoyed triumphs before, but I awake to feel what Vox Day must’ve felt the first time he saw the photo of Scalzi on his lawn wearing that dress. Thank you, Father, for letting me live to see this day!

    lolzolz omg the stupid tw*t even used the word “macroeconomics”!

    God, sarUh, you are such a f**king retard, I can’t even

  11. As far as the election, Why are Clinton supporters so angry? They become visibly angry and hostile when I calmly state I support Trump. A Clinton supporter told me he wants people like me to leave the U.S..

  12. I would like to spend some time wandering around Poland, Prussia, and Eastern Europe. I suspect I would feel more at home there than in Western Europe, or even with my kith and kin in Occupied Germany.

  13. — I would like to spend some time wandering around … Prussia (LBF)

    The last Ice Age carved out hundreds of lakes there, which dot the map. The region, now in northeastern Poland, is now called Mazury but 1000 years ago it was occupied by Old Prussians, Europe’s last pagan holdouts and speakers of a now-extinct Baltic family language. They were eradicated and assimilated by the German-speaking Teutonic Knights in the 14 century, whose descendants lived there until 1945. Prussia saw some of the most savage Soviet atrocities against German civilians in the final months of WWII.

    My maternal grandparents owned a country home there, and I spent a summer as an eleven-year-old c. 1980 riding a moped through the the area’s woods and around the lakes.

    There were stories after the fall of Communism in the early 90s — I’m personally familiar with two such visits — of descendants of expelled pre-war Germans (those who were lucky to be alive) visiting now Polish-owned farms and recovering by that point worthless money, sometimes other valuables, momentos, and photo albums that were buried in 1944/45 and lay undiscovered on the property. By all accounts I’m aware of, those meetings were mutually cordial.

    Ryu yes, that’s a Serbian melody.

  14. re. “Kebab.”

    PA,
    Upthread and/or in a earlier post, you used the word ‘kebab’ several times; what was the context?

    I know it’s a culinary form with a certain ethnic leaning, but what precisely was the context in your usage? A slur? Code for ‘Arabs’ or ‘muslims?’ I could be sure from the few examples you provided.

    [Yes — PA]

  15. At one point Prussia extended well into what is now Lithuania and Latvia and had its capital at Konigsberg (now Kaliningrad) which the Soviets seized in 1945 and forced the Allied Powers to cede to them. They never gave it up. I remember hearing how much better the economy was doing there than in mainland Russia after the fall of communism, I don’t know if that has continued.

    Frederick the Great of Prussia was a big inspiration to both Napoleon and Hitler.

  16. “I met a man whose wife contradicts everything he says. It is clear that he had never told her, in private: you need to shut your mouth.”

    I had an ugly family ho-down this summer at which an almost-fifty year old female relation, once accounted (not unjustly) a vivacious beauty, who dated millionaires and lived a life of casual hedonism without visible scars before eventually succumbing to cults, hard drugs, jailtime, et. al., became increasingly agitated as she quizzed me about Trump and religion, and grew impertinent as I cut off her meandering arguments (“Well, I just think that, you know, racism goes back A LONG WAY–” “It doesn’t matter what you think.”), At some point she says, “You are such an ASSHOLE” and I shrug and reply, “Well, I AM an asshole!” Finally she stormed across the room, stuck her middle finger right under my eyeball, and snarled at me (I really don’t know where she picked this up): “Alpha. Dick!”

    To which I, rather startled but unwilling to yield ground, severely replied: “Childless. Spinster.”

    WHATDIDCHOUSAY???!!!??? Removing the finger, she literally butts her forehead to mine and starts belting, “Fuck you! Fuck you!” And, amid further dramatics, collects her “therapy dog” and leaves.

    Well, did the Boomer ‘rents ever read ME the Riot Act. Till about 3 in the morning, and all the next day, and by phone for a week. Eventually mom figured out my “apology” would not be forthcoming– though nagging hints have not dropped to zero even now.

    For bloodkin reasons I do owe the poor soul some prayers. But her maniacal display was disturbing. There was a small child in the room while all this was taking place. Yet to the churchian Boomers it was as if nothing had happened– until I “attacked” her! lolz

    Needless to say it was a Technicolor demonstration of the menopausal resentment of the Trumpening. They are, as CH has said, Trump’s most implacable foes.

  17. Speaking of Prussian, I guess those two kids in Prussian Blue have (predictably) turned into nice little SJW’s now. I expect that Sorcery God will be next to undergo this divine “transformation” like Paul on the way to Damascus…

  18. The twins’ mom, a very nice and thoughtful commenter, once hang out at a WN blog I used to frequent. I wonder if the girls are in fact SJWs, or everyone’s just going by a news article of their airheaded liberal soundbites while in college. Randy Weaver’s daughter was also quoted saying something conciliatory in recent years.

    People, girls especially, will tell an interviewer what he wants to hear. In the case of Carter Strange (a young White man beaten by niggers), his media-unsavvy parents were browbeaten by a TV host (was it Matt Lauer?) to say that they forgive their son’s attackers while the young man was still in ICU. The father then made a follow-up statement retracting that ‘forgiveness.’

  19. It’s actually a little intimidating to see a normally reasonable person have a complete temper tantrum over Trump. They aren’t even making much sense anymore, but you see how strong their emotions are when it comes to this election. I thought they would like Trump because he is from NYC and is not an Evangelical Christian from the south.

  20. “…..They aren’t even making much sense anymore,”

    And neither is the candidate himself.

    But that’s ok; this is an important step in the larger overall process: at least the two candidates better represent the passions and beliefs of their immediate constituencies, unlike in recent prez elections, which were little more than disparate planks and shadowplay. There’s still some of that but it’s not quite as bad this time.

  21. I think much of the Trump hate is because he’s exposing qualities about themselves that they’ve either denied or try to ignore, one of which being that of “diversity.”

    They know deep down they cannot stand it and put up with it for the “inclusive” quality it brings and because they think they should since it’s {current year}. So now that Trump comes onto the scene and an in indirect way says that diversity is America’s undoing, they literally short-circuit, thinking they were on the “good” side of the social order, only to realize it was all bs.

    As is always the case, they hate themselves the most and project that onto Trump–which I’m sure has already been brought up either here or elsewhere.

    Tangentially, reminds me of the South Park episode “Smug Alert!”, which I just saw last night, wherein all the smugness emanating from people driving Prius’ begins to create a massive storm that will wind up killing them all. At the end of the episode, after the townsfolk “blame” the Prius for causing the storm, destroying all the hybrids, Kyle says that Prius are okay, but that people should be smug about driving them and feel their above those that don’t.

    To which one of them replies: “it’s simply asking too much”

  22. I hope that Trump can somehow get Hilary talking about White Privilege. She’s only alluded to “privilege” once or twice, at NAACP events.

  23. I’ve had similar holiday-reunion blowups as Lucius with a female relative, except that mine is youngish, a mother, and generally high functioning. Hers is a straightforward virtue-signalling npr-listening stance. She’s certainly not an anti-racist or an SJW, but she’s driven by the nastiest form of female SWPL class signalling when those perennial arguments come up.

    Our last such convo recently (and she always starts them!) went amicably due to my deft navigation and because we otherwise get along well. I sidestepped her gay-oriented militant virtue signalling (the gay thing is a sane liberal’s last refuge) and kept steering things back to her genuine horror with the Merkel invasion. But she still insists that Trump is retarded, using some retarded sounding and inconsequential NPR talking point. She also pointed out that Farage is an idiot because The Economist (hahaha!) said so.

  24. At first I wished that Trump would quickly tone it down and play the careful, diplomatic game that a politician needs to play, stepping through minefields, making bargains and kissing babies for the camera.

    However, now that it’s clear that he’s not going to have the kind of money that Hillary has at her disposal, I don’t see any other way for him to navigate the final stretch in that fashion. His IDGAF attitude is the only thing that can close that visibility gap, by giving him virtually unlimited, FREE publicity.

  25. I watch a lot of crime shows. Whenever the victim is black, he or she always makes it clear they want the perpetrator to receive the harshest possible sentence allowed under the law. They do not forgive.

  26. And Bill Clinton is giving Trump another big gift this past week, going off the rails to say that “Make America Great Again” is “racist code.”

    We need much MORE of this from Bill Clinton. The more the Clintons say the word “racist” themselves the more the Democrats morph into the Black party.

  27. Lucius,

    I gotta admit, I loved the descriptive wit and detail and the frisson that it was all based on a real incident.

    But when I came to the ‘therapy dog’ point, i thought you might be throwing some fabulizing into things, and that made me doubt some of the rest.

    But whatever the case, bravo! Real life of course is TOO often stranger than fiction…

  28. Being from a military family I don’t have any SJW’s in the tree. And I work at a small company full of Auburn and Univ of GA graduates so no flaming liberals around me at the office, either.

  29. It speaks to the unvarnished truth of wS that so few white females can ultimately stay committed to wS. Such a state of relentless dynamic uncertainty can not a white female last. They ALL SETTLE. invertedly, later rather than sooner. The question then becomes one of a settling foundation? Perfection or “nothing?” Those who settle upon Perfection do so, mostly unspoken, in order to finally experience the Grace in Life and those who settle upon “nothing,” they rationalize and justify total annihilation both figuratively and then literally.

  30. And, amid further dramatics, collects her “therapy dog” and leaves.

    Just don’t hate on the dog.

    ******************

    Trump is going to win. He will win Pennsylvania, Florida, and Ohio, and the election will be over. Can he not win those states, and then not the election?

    Can you see Trump not winning, those states?

    Michigan will be arguable. And New York. The Midwest, including Minnesota and Wisconsin, is likely to go Clinton. Not sure about Illinois. The election might come down to Illinois and Michigan.

  31. No SJWs in my family, either. Old school Republicans. Of course, I’m estranged from them over my Red Pill views and Alt-Right positions, and have been for a number of years. I do not tolerate femcunts or Bolshevik scum anywhere in my vicinity. Life is too beautiful to put up with their ugliness and misery.

  32. And neither is the candidate himself [making sense]. — Nikcrit

    This would be correct IF your metric was white Supremacy. Meaning, the fact that Trump was moving AWAY FROM wS doesn’t make sense.

    But…

    If your metric is “radical autonomy” then Trump makes “perfect sense” in the sense that he is moving AWAY FROM wS.

    Of course, YOU DO NOT REALLY KNOW wS…

    SO you do not know whether Trump is really moving towards or away from wS?

    YOU REALLY DO NOT KNOW…

    Which brings us back to your original confession.

    Trump does not make sense TO YOU.

    This happens to the radically autonomous.

  33. As for the larger implications — America is still screwed. Our economy being based on driving around, is the cause of unhappiness. Trump isn’t dealing with those problems.

    There is not a solution, because (at this point) there is no “game theory advantage” to de-escalating.

    ****************************

    As long as there is power on a national-level of organization, someone will seize it. Eventually and sometime soon, that gets fractured — and then there is power on the local level, and maybe you can get some.

    Those ideas of power politics, probably ought to be left unsaid (as LBF might put it). We are going to go back to growing potatoes, as a measure of success. And then maybe i get a girl.

    Tom Wolfe said that he admired, the man who waited 50 years to mate. Maybe we ought to make a statue of that Upcountry Hillbilly and put it in the Park.

  34. Camlost,

    While it’ll be a tall order to win NY, it’s not entirely impossible. He wins that state and the three others you mentioned him winning and it’s game over for certain by that point.

    And should he win NY, then I don’t think IL or MI have much relevance. In the primaries, he won MI big, but that state’s a total jihadville* now and I’m sure they’ll vote blue.

    *Somewhat exaggerating, but all of Dearborn is damn near muzzie

  35. Air China in the news for “racist” travel tips in its main brochure, whites to blame since there can’t be any truth to this advice:

  36. “You Part Who”

    Will jew break?
    Bred, it’s said
    To be jew
    From toe to head…
    Anti-white Supremacy!
    To the death
    And to our dead!
    What jew say?
    Jew want “equality”
    That’s why jew
    Against white man
    And his Christianity?
    Worship the perfect will
    Down with radical autonomy…
    Diasporic degeneracy
    Is the solution
    To the one jew live
    Parasitically…
    Critique this critically…
    Jew can’t
    Unless he willingly
    Tangle with a tiger
    With incredibly lyrical ability …
    Animal instinct.
    The logos of white Supremacy…

  37. “While it’ll be a tall order to win NY, it’s not entirely impossible.”

    There’s no way Trump can win New York. Every aggrieved childless spinster in America lives in New York City. It is the epicenter of those who hate him most, to say nothing of Jews. The rest of the state can’t carry him. A quick check on one poll had it Clinton 52 / Trump 34. No way.

    New Jersey, on the other hand… A poll just a few days ago had it C 47 / T 43. That’s within reach, and may depend a lot on NAM turnout being low, and goombah turnout being super-duper high. New Jersey has 14 electoral votes, so that’s a lot. In the end, it comes down to white people showing up to vote for their own interests. I really believe that in this election, Trump has reached precisely the people who haven’t bothered to show up for the likes of McCain and Romney. Thing is, do they go through the trouble it takes to register and then go vote? The white race in America really has its future in its own hands right now.

  38. “You Part Free”

    Who are jew?
    I am jew!
    That’s cute.
    But I am me
    I am Free.
    Are jew Free?
    “Free jew three!”
    Through jew free
    ID-ead-ology
    Profiling
    Cocooned
    An ethnic religiosity
    A meta-force-isis
    And Jew…
    Most pompous oddity.
    Call it “should spud”
    Or call it
    “Radical autonomy…”

    Where’d all jew originate?

    In the bowels…
    Of “white” degeneracy?

    “No shit!”

    Jew part free.

  39. Sorry, alll ye reactionary prognosticators, but you’re all dreaming or deluded. Pa. & Ohio are HRC locks. Trump is actually struggling or behind in GOP strangleholds like Arizona and S.C.! …… Elk? NY? Wtf r u smoking, buddy? Lolzz?!?

  40. nikcrit, RCP has Hillary in Ohio at +1 and going down. In Arizona, Trump up by 1.7. Pennsylvania sees Hillary at +6 but shrinking. Her lead in North Carolina has all but evaporated, at 0.8 and going down.

    Quit trolling. You won’t like it in the troll doghouse– not when I’m off the leash

  41. Actually, when all is said and done, the real “Trump factor” is that he’s allowed the Rachel mmaddos and all the other fringe of the left to come to the fore of The American mainstream. Sloppy & undisciplined scion brat, now the face of the neo-right!

  42. “You Part Whore”

    Jew nasty!
    No, jew nasty!
    That’s what I said,
    “Little white boy
    Got jew in his head.”
    Jew whore!
    She soiled his bed
    Planted seeds
    Of misdeeds
    Jew almost brain dead!
    Little ghost boy
    Force fed..
    A steady diet
    Of pain meds!
    Turn jew into
    Dr. Strange Man
    Strange Land
    Where jew whore
    Part four
    Followed a third reich stand
    Spread jew whore
    Across “alien” glands
    Got jew in jew hands
    The levers of powers
    Butt jew plan
    Penetrate a prostate
    White ethnostate
    Yes jew can.

  43. Life:
    Like many others, I suspect, I have learned to live two lives. The life I use to maneuver through the corridors of power and control, and what I consider my real life. I’m a trained schizophrenic. Don’t forget to smile with your eyes. Ooh and aaah at the bastard mulatto the secretary brings in at Christmas. Exclamation points to show we care!

    I undermine where I can. I don’t let my family see this false side of me, but it is for their benefit. My victories are small. Sha’quan’s resume goes in the shredder. In raising my kids, I now frequently think, “what would a boomer parent do in this situation?” And do the opposite. Derb’s “the rules” are part of the core curriculum. You get the idea. Chopping wood, preparing for the worst, contributing to the status quo downfall in small and personal ways. Ready to give more when the time is right.

  44. “You Part Hive”

    Jew alive?
    Jew the hive.
    Part the see
    Jew the eye.
    Start to be
    Jew connive!
    Hard to read
    Jew contrive.
    Kill the queen
    Jew arrive…
    On the scene
    De-solve the crime!
    Jew dunnit
    Jew guilty this time.
    Jew submit
    The crucial “dime”
    Ten cents worth of sense
    Jew a slime!
    Slimultaneously
    Jew sublime
    Subliminally
    Jew a crime
    Memetically
    Anti-white Supremacy,
    Jew have jew…
    A perverted hive mind.

  45. @Lucius, et.al,

    I got home and checked that RCP poll; when you look at the others, it’s more or less a toss-up—– and that surprised me.

    FWIW, i don’t want HRC in there; and certainly with a decisive electoral mandate —— but Trump and his faultlines are in the end equally alienating. Can you really say that he’d definitly deliver at the least modern-day GOP-status-quo administrative maneuveurs? He’s messing up and lacks discipline and control, qualities I admire. I’m also very biased toward outsize personalities and have a detailed critique of the late-20th-century innovation: the electronically mediated celebrity; people have their opinions but no real idea of the kind and extent of pathology within such monstrous creatures.

  46. Thordaddy: I am awed by your dexterity with rhymes.

    — Poland is a huge chunk of Europe, about the size of Texas. (Suburban_elk)

    It’s almost exactly the size of Arizona.

    — Don’t worry, i am not going to hit on the women (elk)

    The “hot Polish chick” may have been a ten-years-ago phenomenon, in the wake of the 1980 baby boom. I didn’t visit any large cities back in June, but traveled extensively through small towns and countryside. What I didn’t see much of: obesity. What I saw LOTS of: pleasant looking but not “hot” young mothers. Also: lots of American-style girls who weren’t exactly fat, but there was something familiarly off about them. Maybe hints of GMO diet, fast food, tats, iPhones, sometimes mannishness.

    Another thing I observed: for the first time since I started visiting, I felt like my SMV there is not high, compared to local men. Lots of young guys looking jacked. Part of it is my ageing I suppose, but it’s something else too, I think. Young men going to extremes to compete over scraps, like in America? — as a cynical friend suggested. Or, I wondered, is it Europe’s collective war preparations?

    — This final election run is going to change quite a bit about Life in the USA. (Camlost)

    There is no going back either way. Trump is 70. Whichever way the election goes, the discontent that carried him so far is not going away. It’s only going to become more fanatical. I don’t mean this as a complaint. Burn down the parasite matrix.

    — How so? Prompt debate? Prompt a cultural war? Heighten existing conflict or tensions? (Nikcrit)

    I am finding a certain Baby Boomer quality in you. Don’t get me wrong. You are a smart, urbane guy, but as with Boomers, I find a similar incredulity in you. An incomprehension or inability to accept the fact that the order of things you are familiar with is about to be upended.

    — It’s freeing, and a times daunting, only because I don’t want to make a misstep like in yesteryear (mendo)

    Something I found is that I tend to repeat my missteps. What I can change, with application of experience, is (1) accepting the missteps, (2) blunting their sharper edges, (3) pivoting over them into better landings.

    — I feel honored to cruise the Action and breathe the Good Lord’s air. (Each Pond Gone)

    There is always that second layer of intelligence in your cryptic quips.

    — Don’t forget to smile with your eyes. (DN Poolside)

    I like that. The classic Mindweapons blog “espionage model”

    — [Life] is to be embraced. (Laguna Beach Fogey)

    As you know, my “face the sun” conceit is stolen from you.

  47. “You Part Tricks”

    Jew trick?
    Jew treat?
    Jew hollow ween
    Little baby white boy
    Titty-free!
    Fee to fairy thee
    Across “White Privilege Sound”
    Drown jew
    In the deep
    Jew see..
    A cheap jew dream
    A scheme jew deem
    Unworthy
    Of awareness!
    Jew in a sleep full steam
    A head of jew
    Jew need to
    Release “jew mean”
    Jew meme
    “Anti-white Supremacy”
    Jew scream
    “Anti-white Supremacy”
    And jew mean
    “Anti-white Supremacy”
    Then jew screened
    Jew masked with a honkey face.
    Cause jew
    Can’t be seen.

  48. Go to RCP and check out their comparative polling pages, in which they show, say, the prez race in week 2 of 2016 and compare it to that same week and poll numbers in 20012 and so forth; basically, HRC is holding a lead somewhere inbetween of that of Obama in ’08 and ’12; i predict a HRC win in the 347-electoral-college range.

    And Trump isn’t really ready to be a mainstream status-quo political leader; why not settle for consolidating your zeitgeist ascension? Do you really want to occupy the rotten ediface itself? I mean, will HRC be feted as a savior riding atop our current political apparatus? As things will likely turn out, the alt-right would be in position to become trendy martyrs on that same zeitgeist.

    And if i’m wrong and the shit really indeed does hit the fan? Then I want a choice parcel in the four-season upper-Midwest for my mixed-race ethnostate —— free therapy dogs for all, dammit!!

  49. “You Part Heaven”

    Jew?
    Jewever been to Heaven?
    Jew don’t know?
    Jew don’t ask?
    Jew,
    Count to seven?
    Add four more
    Jew have eleven.
    Truth
    Jew leaving?
    Jew won’t leaven?
    Jew heathen?
    Jew breathin’
    Seethin’
    Butt jew, squeakin’!
    Stop the pusses!
    Jew leaking
    Bleeding,
    Mop the decks
    The ships are sinking
    Jew what jew do
    Jump overboard
    THIS weekend…
    Jew come back all bored
    Can’t stop tweakin’
    Jew need Heaven
    ’cause jew a weak man…

  50. “An incomprehension or inability to accept the fact that the order of things you are familiar with is about to be upended.”

    You’ve been forecasting this sudden upending of the racial status-quo for seven or so years, or whenever exactly I first began blog debate with you at OneSTDV. I’ve come around to some of your observations and convictions —— closely examining the zeitgeist and figuring out how folks with takes as different as y1ou and I can see with evident truth what we do.

    But you can’t extend that empathy. One example, this one touching upon a common sub-topic to the issue we’re again now discussing: you doggedly insist that your very common and conventional ethno-racial-economic caste as some kind of social-American universal (which it is—- for you and you alone!). I thought of that and you today while i was at a heavily mino black-hispanic school; i saw this pleasant-looking white hispanic girl hugging her dark-complected black boyfriend between classes. I, given my Gen X history and racial consciousness, felt or at least was aware of the taboo contrast to their colliding skin tones, and reflexively took note, looking for the contrasting tension or observation by others of this radical if momentary distraction.

    And in return i saw…….. nothing! I study these things with momentary academic intensity—- and to my shock, these kids’ peers —— black, white, hispanic, racial potpourri —— SIMPLY DO NOT NOTICE. They don’t recoil, but nor do they affectedly feign indifference.

    They just are indifferent and it blows my mind, while it depresses yours.

  51. You Part Hate”

    Jew hate…
    White Supremacy!
    Why jew don’t say
    Remains a mystery?
    Not really.
    Let’s indulge jew
    Anyways…
    Any way
    Jew slice it
    His code sure
    Jew have the last say…
    Jew kosher
    In a very mad way
    Like a deep obsession
    Jew have a bad case
    Aversion
    For subversion
    Of jew “home base.”
    Which just so happens
    To be that place
    Where jew reveal
    Jew hatest face..
    No more mystery
    To the anti-white Supremacy
    Jew…
    Jew been straight laced.

  52. “It makes me look forward to what inevitably comes next. “

    And just what reifying conceit would that be in this part1icular instance?

    OTOH, I can accept that whatever it is that “comes next” will likely be a mix of what I wish for and its opposite, perhaps “it” even being something along the lines of what I most dread. Because that IS the future, I’m quite certain; more racism and more anti-racism —— coming soon to a town or restrictive covenant near you! lolzz.

  53. “You Part Whine”

    Jewhine!

    Universilly…

    Jew don’t see
    Jewhine,
    Fourth dementia multiversal
    “Micro-stings”
    Amorphous.
    Pretend jew believe
    “The Incredibly Invisible White Thing”
    In jew ear rings
    Dub loops ka-ching…
    Scripting self-flagellating insect
    Inside the Machine
    A matrix!
    Jew bugged
    Jew byte
    Jew C++ white light!
    Shocks jew
    Socks jew right.
    If the jew fits?
    Jew whine again
    Jew whine just “Might”
    Might jew JUST fight?
    No jew won’t
    When jew can whine
    Whiff jewlite…

  54. — Don’t forget to smile with your eyes. (DN Poolside)

    — I like that. The classic Mindweapons blog “espionage model” (PA)

    I think I remember reading about the Espionage model once when I could still read the Mindweapons blog, then he made it private. I’d only a few visits but I was very impressed and wanted to expose myself to more of that kind of material. It felt somehow like he had some insights that I needed.

    Is that still around? I’m confused about that.
    Why would you make a blog private so people can’t read it – did the owner get doxxed or sumthin?

  55. “You Part Zen”

    Jew Zen?

    Nah.

    Chosen?

    Jew dyed.
    Virtually frozen.
    Cold, stone eyes scream!
    “Jew taunt, jew win!”
    Rocky roads
    Whips jew whims?
    When?

    What, jew sin?

    Midnight — a snack
    Why jew axe?
    That’s jew —
    Account he skim…
    Thin Milken.
    Jew gulps zero
    Jew, Count Bling
    Trample veins
    Y’count
    Jew blood
    Jew blood rains
    Thin jew
    Hallow cast
    Import alien aunt dreams…
    Uncle Beast deems
    A team that teems
    “Jew poor drink”
    “Jew pocket green.”
    And be tween, jew fingers!
    Jew fit Ring…

    Jew end.
    For now.

  56. Why would you make a blog private so people can’t read it – did the owner get doxxed or sum thin?

    That seems the pattern.

    A lot of WN can’t handle the pressure. There is too much pressure.

    A SERIOUS need exists, for a public face. Let’s be honest. “I am racist and i am white, and i want my white country back.”

    The Indians can say it. We have got to say it, publicly. I am willing to say it, out front and public, but then again i am a basement-dwelling fuck-up.

    Who is the face of WN, Jared Taylor? Milo what’s-his-name? Steve Sailer? some writer at Takimag?

    We got to do better. (no disrespect intended to those guys)

    *********************

    I can accept that whatever it is that “comes next” will likely be a mix of what I wish for and its opposite, perhaps “it” even being something along the lines of what I most dread. Because that IS the future, I’m quite certain; more racism and more anti-racism —— coming soon to a town or restrictive covenant near you! lolzz.

    nikcrit, you laugh at it now — but you are wrong to do so. White people are INSANE with anger. They are a “switch” that is about to be turned.

    The alternative to White Identity, is Islam. You can think about this stuff, for a thousand years, and i tell you now, those are your Two Choices.

    I am leaning to Islam; but better stronger tougher Whites, will not Submit.

    The Question of our Age is, Does White Identity Exist as an Alternative to Islam?

    You tell me. Me answer to that, is no — but i am a heretic, here.

  57. Islam is the organizing principle of these our times.

    Christianity? it fails, my good fellows.

    That is why we talk in terms of Tolkien and Lewis, rather than the myths themselves. The myths themselves, are pale and weak — they are only sustained by our efforts. Without black spiritual songs, Christian myths fail.

  58. The Leading Force in the Alt Right, is who?

    Jared Taylor? LBF? Suburban_elk? Jim Goad? Milo gayface? Mean-spirited Pleasureman?

    Anonymous blogs?! We don’t even rep our own names, because we are afraid of losing our subsistence living, our connection to a sick beat-up system that degrades us all.

  59. Our dependence on civilization compromises us.

    The despised commenter, uh, made that same point, and with some eloquence.

    I grow enough food, to feed myself, in my own backyard. But this town won’t let me have chickens, because they bark too loud. That is your white people, organizing into a collective gay neighborhood.

    That is your white people organizing themselves, because they cluck too loud? That is what was determined, by our elected city officials, who are outstanding members of our civic ideals.

    But on the other hand, if you want to tear up the street, all summer long, hey that’s progress and who can complain about that. Those are are expressed ideals — and you can’t complain about at city hall because that makes you a fool.

  60. Steve Sailer is the one I recommend to liberals. One of them said, “If he is so wonderful why doesn’t he write for the New York Times?”.

  61. I doubt things will change much for African Americans if Trump is elected. It’s not like he is running on a segregation platform.

  62. Steve Sailed is not WN. However, he sticks up for white people enough for me. He has an agreeable personality and does not come across as extreme.

  63. Cam is always on about his idea, of a collective expression in Nationhood, about how a certain genetic potential expresses in that form.

    I wish i had a nation. I wish i had a country.

    As a white Anglo — we don’t get our own country. Our Mission was to Conquer, but not to Sustain. My ancestors wrote the Constitution, but they couldn’t fulfill it. It was a wet dream to them. They were dressed-up Pretty Boys who couldn’t hold to their Ideas.

    It is embarrassing to have to say that, about my own Forefathers — but had they done a better job, we wouldn’t be in this Spot. I know i am not wanted to be complaining — but hey they blew it. Can i join the Indians?

    Yeah it is the Human Condition, to struggle suffer and die, but on the other hand …

  64. Extreme people seem prone to completely flipping their position. (For example Ryu now promoting Islam). Steve Sailer’s moderate positions might seem weak at times, but over the long run I think people like him are best.

  65. Heretic: the Mindweapons blog is still up, just hasn’t been updated in two years. He was doxed by antiracists in 2014. His wife was running for local office at the time as an ordinary candidate, no WN affiliation. A local newspaper ran a sensationalist article on a political candidate’s husband being a “neonazi” (which he isn’t).

    I don’t think he ever set his blog on Private when doxed. Instead, he posted a “Welcome, xx Newspaper Readers” article to explain his position to the new traffic of readers. He also posted a photo of himself and his wife, an attractive couple. Mindwapons was a bit offbeat as a blog, but one of the best and most original. He is active on twitter, as well as on a group blog with Hipster Racist and others.

  66. Or, I wondered, is it Europe’s collective war preparations

    I hope you’re right.

    I find most people around here are absolutely clueless about what’s coming.

  67. I’m really amused by all the cuckservative outrage over the refusal of African sportsball players to stand for the National Anthem at a coming game.

    This is exactly what we need.

    More, please.

  68. DN Poolside: “Ooh and aaah at the bastard mulatto the secretary brings in at Christmas

    I will occasionally notice a grown White woman with a little adopted African baby.Very rare around here.

    Much more common are the White men with little mixed-race babies–courtesy of their Asian wives. I work with some of them. These are educated, successful White men, but they are incredibly beta. It’s reached the point where I can barely contain my revulsion. I wonder if they can see it on my face? I’m a terrible liar.

  69. elk: “Does White Identity Exist as an Alternative to Islam?
    You tell me.”

    You asked me to answer this: I have, many times in my replies to topics here at this blog that beg precisely those and similar questions.

    I believe (and have said) that white-western European culture and mindset is so meta, foundational, needed and useful to this country, appropriated or inherently displayed by NAMs and non-NAMs alike, that it is merely ironic folly, identity-politic spectacle to portend otherwise.

    The vanguard of whites and white-western culture are experiencing an existential crisis in terms of ideals and imagination; such a dilemma will befall ANY leader, visionary or, as i’ve suppositioned, ‘idealized hybrid type and physicality’ of humanity writ large: it’s on the top, a leader and it doesn’t know which of many-upon-many directions to go; that can be very intimidating and cause missionary enervation from time to time, epoch to epoch. Still, without white-western agenda setting and outright cultural archetype writ large, THERE IS NO FUTURE FOR HUMAN CIVILIZATION, or at least none which would currently be consensually agreed upon to be worthy of the name.

    This sentiment is known and felt by white elites; the disgruntlement aspects of white-western culture and population are currently being carried out by its striving sectors; this is true and evident in any intra-racial dissident-and-class-level analysis. IN the end, I believe this is all natural and ultimately a healthy development. The racial-ethnic-caste components that in the end comprise humanity disconnect and then once again coalesce from time to time; only later do the reasons become clear.

  70. “That’s within reach, and may depend a lot on NAM turnout being low, and goombah turnout being super-duper high.”

    Yep: Democracy in Action, American style!

  71. American democracy: franchise was not intended for women and citizenship was not intended for non-Whites. The fatal flaw of democracy: expansion of franchise and the control of means of opinion-formation is the path to power in a democracy.

  72. nikcrit to lucius earlier upthread: “I got home and checked that RCP poll; when you look at the others, it’s more or less a toss-up—– and that surprised me. “

    I neglected to say that i was referrring to the various RCP polls re. the presidential race IN OHIO —– not the overall national percentages; i still maintain that hrc will ‘win’ somewhere within the margins of obama-sized wins in ’08 and ’12; factors every metric one can imagine, past and present, into this forecast: hrc has a 82% chance of victory.

    Yes, I know Cohn is not a popular pollster here at this blog.

  73. I’m starting to think the reason so many older women hate Trump is because he has a much younger wife. Clinton sleeps with very young women, but at least he has never divorced Hillary, which might be why they excuse it with him.

  74. “The fatal flaw of democracy: expansion of franchise and the control of means of opinion-formation is the path to power in a democracy.”

    OK, but if I’ve learned ANYTHING over the years, it’s this: As peterike so eloquently put it: never, EVER underestimate said “super-duper high Goombah turnout!”
    Just don’t do it. Dude! I’m telling you!

  75. “You Part Bedevilin'”

    Jew!
    Bedevil.
    Jew can level
    A blood libel
    To rival
    All mud metal!
    Black shrapnel,
    Did jewrap hell
    In the satchel?
    Dispatched
    And unlatched
    Western disunion
    Jew rapped,
    The sole “lone cell”
    Allahs cross
    Curse jew…
    For what jew sell
    Tell jew
    So jew can dwell
    How all swell
    Where jew can’t quell
    A will of white Supremacy
    Here,
    Jew devil fell…

  76. A liberal woman I know was recently complaining about all the right wing Italian men who have taken over the politics in her town.

  77. I can sometimes sympathize with WASP resentment of white ethnics. They were here first and then all these brash newcomers came in a pushed them around. I definitely support the waspy FBI’s battle against the mafia. I don’t want to be part of the mafia and don’t want them having any real power in places I live or institutions I depend on. Most Italians seem to be law abiding, though. They are also good at a lot of different things and seem to generally be contributing members of society. Their right wing politics show me they are buying into American culture and want law and order.

  78. Let’s move on to a new topic. The original post was, “What do you think about life?” which gives me cause to talk about my garden.

    At this point the only thing to do, is harvest the raspberries, dig and clean the potatoes, and keep the squash from getting “buggy” underneath its bottom side.

    As other Upper Midwesterners know, this has been a hell of a year.

  79. white-western European culture and mindset is so meta, foundational, needed and useful to this country, appropriated or inherently displayed by NAMs and non-NAMs alike, that it is merely ironic folly, identity-politic spectacle to portend otherwise.

    Take it easy.

  80. Ryu…

    Your concept of “white supremacy” is “any means necessary” which memes “everything’s unnecessary” so you deem OMNIPOTENCE as transgressively perfunctory.

  81. Here’s a contradiction: liberals love to point out how the majority of Americans are dumb and racist. At the same time they are saying Trump has no chance of winning. Most liberals pride themselves on voting differently than the majority, now they are proclaiming to side with the reasonable majority.

  82. Conceptually…

    Who is more omnipotent?

    The Perfect Man?

    Or the radically autonomous?

    The jihadist has not ascended. He has only MURDERED THE CONCEPT of “the perfect man” in his mind.

    High IQ “white” male has FAILED SPECTATULARLY IN NARRATING the concept of “the perfect man” in the mind of a dull white mass.

    Revenge of the nerds, indeed!

  83. Republican Donald Trump appears to have carved out a wider path to the White House as a number of states including Florida and Ohio are no longer considered likely wins for Democratic rival Hillary Clinton

    I said it first, just going on intuition. And add Pennsylvania to those two. I guestimated Pennsylvania’s race demos to be 15% black, but the internet tells me 11-point-whatever.

    Among those three states, that is half the electoral map. Consider Trump in the bag. Trickin is gonna be suckin his thumb, for the next three or four years. (deal with it, old man)

    This Election is done and won. A Clinton win, or even a contest, would be such BLATANT FRAUD, … that they can’t do it. Instead they will have to manage Trump, … and us.

    But then this gets back to the question, of what it means. It don’t mean much, in therms of the Weather.

  84. “Trickin is gonna be suckin his thumb, for the next three or four years.”

    Not to mention my dick. (sorries, in advance)

    Trickin, being a Wisconsin Williams Syndrome white (at least in spirit), doesn’t take those words lightly. Take it easy, Black — it’s a joke, meant for effect.

  85. The high IQ “white” male if so revulsed by the concept of “the perfect (white) man” must then contend with the mere concept of objective (S)upremacy WHERE instead of elucidating absolutely, he uses his “intelligence” to “exalt” HIS subjective concept of “(white) (s)upremacy.” And where high IQ “white” male is totally deracinated, he turns “the perfect (white) man” into the evil whip-master of the dark hordes. This is the Nerds’ TIRED, STALE and utterly liberated version of “white supremacy.”

  86. nikcrit, (and it is safe to say i am speaking for others) —

    It feels good, to win, against you. You can take this as a compliment, by the way — but we are going to be Ruthless, from here on out.

    You put your stock in HRC?! (talk about a weak horse)

  87. Elk…

    How accountable are you for NEVER using your 140 IQ to make the case for white separation ultimately sustained and perpetuated by white (S)upremacy?

  88. I remember a scene that shows how well White Supremacy and Islam can go together.

    It was a scene from the American propaganda film Rambo 3, when he joins the Stanis against the Russians.

    You’re hinging the future of the 1.3 billion whites of the world on a scene from a Rambo movie?

    You’re correct that Western whites must find a sense of militancy soon, but Islam is hardly the vehicle for that.

    I’ve already recounted many of the ways, but you seem to think it’s some halfass, quick download shortcut to gun-toting aggressiveness, while still somehow allowing whites their own separate identities and country. Nothing could be further from the truth. Islam is not something that has a “light” version where you can adopt only 2-3 aspects that you like about it, like dumb Hollywood liberals who decide to dabble in Tantric Buddhism, mystic yoga or Kabbalah by day and then go home and behave in the same way at home at the end of the evening.

  89. Those “white” males with IQs 140+ possess a pathologically stunted concept of Perfection. So stunted is their concept of objective Supremacy that it is actually its inversion. The Perfect (white) Man is the most degenerate (white) man.

  90. sub_elk: “nikcrit, (and it is safe to say i am speaking for others) —…..It feels good, to win, against you. You can take this as a compliment, by the way — but we are going to be Ruthless, from here on out…..You put your stock in HRC?! (talk about a weak horse)”

    elk, earlier in this very thread, I said this of HRC: “FWIW, i don’t want HRC in there; and certainly with a decisive electoral mandate —— but Trump and his faultlines are in the end equally alienating.” That is hardly evidence of me putting stock in HRC; more like: ‘what’s worse? Six or a half-dozen.”

    sub_elk: “nikcrit, you laugh at it now — but you are wrong to do so. White people are INSANE with anger. They are a “switch” that is about to be turned.”

    This, from a guy who in at least a dozen threads goes on and on about how whites have: A) no identity, b) no purpose; c) no direction; d) no sense of urban planning; e) no taste in public architecture; f) and no less than NO SENSE OF EXISTENCE; you did as much as recently as in the last thread, if not at the top of this very thread.

    So maybe before you propose that you have the finger on the mass white zeitgeist and that they’re angry and not going to take it no more, so it’s Trump, Trump, Trump, perhaps you can complete your recent commitment to a Muslim conversion, and then re-think your above certain prediction, eh?

    Because tomorrow is another day, and another opportunity to put your finger to the wind, no?

    ———————————————————————————————————————–

    Anyhow, I have nothing to prove in terms of white fidelity; I believe my aforementioned statement in this very thread pretty much says it all (and to which elk himself took a tad of umbrage with).

    To wit: ” I believe (and have said) that white-western European culture and mindset is so meta, foundational, needed and useful to this country, appropriated or inherently displayed by NAMs and non-NAMs alike, that it is merely ironic folly, identity-politic spectacle to portend otherwise.”

    @Thor,
    My above statement is about the most explicit acknowledgement of a form of ‘white supremacism’ that has been made on this blog, no?

  91. p.s.—– I predict what I believe to be true, not necessarily what i wish was true. Hey, I was wrong and publicly admitted as much when I said that Trump was not a serious candidate and would not with the GOP nomination. I have problem acknowledging my faulty predictions.

    Rather, some just ignore the past, turn up the bluster, and continue on straight ahead.

  92. “You Part Delve”

    Jew delve?
    In jew
    The depths of jew Selves.
    Radically autonomous
    Jew anonymously
    Must shelve
    The myth of
    “Great white Elves”
    Instead, jew tell tails
    Head a Fivel jew survival
    Jew ‘merican wails
    Set sail
    Jew can do it
    If jew let the white male
    Not prevail…
    Simply assail
    The cheesy lifestyle
    That jew regale…

  93. “You Part Dirt Clean”

    Jew dirty clean?
    What jew mean?
    Jew love black sheen?
    Charlie!
    He’d bow
    Jew the whacked King
    That’s exactly
    What jew meme
    Bye jew muddy gleam
    Shit shine
    Jew dirty clean
    Spit rhymes
    Jew purty beam
    White teeth
    Beneath
    A face…
    Jew dirty clean.

    PS. I was unleashed by wS.

  94. nikcrit, i won this round, and that’s just that.

    That you won’t shut the hell up, doesn’t do you any good.

    That you don’t get this basic point, … makes my point. Just be quiet, and take it in good grace.

    You Blacks disgust us, sometimes.

    Now be quiet.

  95. You are still arguing with me, like a Williams Syndrome white. You lost, bud.

    Jesus chrimminy christ, you are a frustrating guy.

    (And yeah, just because i say it, two or three times? doesn’t make it un-true.)

  96. Elk, you’ll have ‘won’ when you refute my points, and when Trump refutes my election prediction.

    No victories accorded purely by racial decree, fellow Williams Country boy!👳

  97. LBF – I have no truck with mixed race ice people babies. Numbers are of the essence, and these are generally family babies, not bastards. Plus, my hero Derb has fathered a pair…

  98. Well, what was truly riveting was watching UW beat LSU.( now only if we have some talent to go with that inflated ranking)

    I didn’t watch any football today, but looking at what games the Badgers have coming up it looks like you have the worst possible schedule that UW can get in conference due to the rotations through the Big 10 East – UM, MSU, OSU same year. Probably saves the Badgers the trouble of being the Big 10 team that gets stomped in the CFP by some southern team. 🙂 🙂

    But that loss you just put on LSU might have sealed the fate of Les Miles at LSU. The boosters there are not crazy about his personality and they’re itching to replace him despite his great success. But they’re also FANATICAL about keeping up with Alabama. LSU is now out of the national title hunt unless they run the table, including the SEC title game.

  99. Now that i know you can’t be out-toughed or out-smarted, i will just have to sit back and let you run the show, then.

    I was thinking of going down the local mall, and having my “toes cleaned.” I just need to figure out the secret password. Any ideas, comments, clues or suggestions?

    Those hard Asian ladies, work for a living.

  100. Besides, my white blood is more aristocratic than yours.

    nickrit — is it my mis-remembrance, then, that your White half, is German?

    I am all the way back to Ben Franklin. On both sides, brother.

  101. Cam is clearly the smartest SoB in the room. And nikcrit has that (for lack of a better word) Big Dick.

    But if you don’t know that i got a better Hit Rate, on my Jokes — that’s your shortcoming.

  102. Elk: No. Swede & bit Swiss (French/German border contingent;i.ee, Alsace? Forgive me, I’m drunk).

    But i was joking. No halfrican can seriously pull intra-Euro rank; just ask LBF).

  103. Forgive me, I’m drunk

    I had a shot of gin earlier because I like the juniper smell and two Natty Boh’s (it’s a Chesapeake thing, you wouldn’t understand.) Resting on my laurels after the Emblem design. And now calling it a night.

  104. I’m working a summer street festival. I booked the bands, which i do occasionally in summer, though my ‘summer’just ended. But on the day of events i just sit back and deal with mmoment to moment complications, which leaves too much time to sit back n drink….. Burp! G’niggght!

  105. You put your stock in HRC?! (talk about a weak horse)

    Elk, you do have that one thing in common with Trump in that whatever passes through the mind gets expressed to the world…

  106. Yeah well but what else are you supposed to talk about, then?

    *********************

    Am i wrong, that Trickin gives indications, that he supports HRC?

    He might hem and haw — but to my sight he aint on the Trump Train. He seems to think the Trump Train is a reflection, of Bad Whites. He is right in that, of course — but hey bad is good and black is white.

    ********************

    Now Camlost, i apologize for not quite being at your level. Very few of us are — and but yet you still haven’t realized this, and learned to be gracious?

  107. I am just hanging around to see who will emerge, as the Leading Voice of the Alt Right.

    It’s not CH, and it’s not MPC. Both those sites are limited; in the first case by misogyny; and in the second by weight room rubbing cream.

    The best AR site is The Right Stuff.

  108. Actually, take that back. The Right Stuff is fronting an article on 9/11 that blames Saudis, for bringing down the buildings. Unbelievable.

    The buildings were demolished. They collapsed in a manner consistent with demolition, and the idea that that is some sort of miraculous convenient happening, THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, can only be worthy of the most gullible people on Earth.

    Steve Sailer, last i checked, believes the official narrative. Pleasure man of MPC fame, doesn’t go in for a “conspiracy theory.” These people are leading thinkers. Of what, retards? (no offense intended to the retarded)

    I didn’t follow the Kennedy assassination, not being alive at the time. But in the case of the WTC — they were brought down with controlled demolition. Start there, to get better portraiture of power. At that level are insane people, who don’t function with empathy, or feeling for others. They don’t care that people lost their loved ones.

    It is not my favorite topic, by the way. I am fine with simply hating the muzzies. But the level of denial, and frankly stupidity, is frustrating. All the Cool Kids know.

  109. “I am fine with simply hating the muzzies.”

    So does this mean that your conversion has been postponed?

    As for the AR’s ‘leading voice,’ I’d say the consensus is that Sailer holds that title, wouldn’t you?

    RE. last night and this suburban street festival. this a bit off-topic, but my evening yesterday summoned thoughts from a convo i had with PA last week; i’m back at work from summer break, so back into a 90%+ minority social environment at work. But last night’s biz-and-fun was a solidly middle-class-and-up white social event, a milieu i haven’t been in for a while —– and it was striking to me. I’ll get into it a bit more when we’re in a more appropriate thread; this topic is sort of meta in teerms of our recurring racial riffs. But it was really intriguing to me for some reason, and also for reasons i’m unsure of, the event seems ot have clarified a few cultural distinctions that fall along race lines, or so it seems. More later, if anyone give a f.

  110. “He might hem and haw — but to my sight he aint on the Trump Train”

    Haven’t I already made that clear?

    I’m a centrist dem, about as reluctant in my lever pulling as many of you here but who still voted for McCain and Romney in prior Novembers. still, i voted for Obama in both his runs.

    But i might sit this one out; i almost did in ’12; i said a few times this year that i would’ve been down with a Sanders/Buchanann ticket this year.

  111. ” I’ll get into it a bit more when we’re in a more appropriate thread”

    You can talk an out it in this thread if you like. I only ask for on-topic comments under new posts.

  112. But i might sit this one out; i almost did in ’12; i said a few times this year that i would’ve been down with a Sanders/Buchanann ticket this year.

    ??? If that means Pat Buchanan, fat chance that would ever happen, for a whole litany of reasons. Not the least of which is that Bernie can’t stop screaming “free” long enough to hear anyone explain to him that he comes off as a major pushover in the public eye.

  113. i’m back at work from summer break, so back into a 90%+ minority social environment at work. But last night’s biz-and-fun was a solidly middle-class-and-up white social event, a milieu i haven’t been in for a while —– and it was striking to me

    We know, we know – you’ve slowed down a lot yourself so you appreciate the peacefulness of your lighter side at public gatherings. ‘Cause we all know that at any event that features liquor, freedom of movement and any appreciable number of Obama Supporters there’s gonna be some sh*t going down…

  114. Jews tend to self segregate in their own neighborhoods and school districts. There are many Jews in this area, but very few in my town.

  115. But last night’s biz-and-fun was a solidly middle-class-and-up white social event, a milieu i haven’t been in for a while —– and it was striking to me. I’ll get into it a bit more when we’re in a more appropriate thread; this topic is sort of meta in teerms of our recurring racial riffs. But it was really intriguing to me for some reason

    We can guess.

  116. We know, we know – you’ve slowed down a lot yourself so you appreciate the peacefulness of your lighter side at public gatherings.

    The joys of aging. I’ve spent my life waiting for em.

    ***************

    How goes the Mel Brooks line, classically re-capped by Woody Allen, about the old people complaining at the retirement home?

    “The food here is awful. And there’s never enough.” Them damn jews and their bullseye humor. Next thing you know, we’ll have to be allowing them a place in our court.

  117. Jews tend to self segregate in their own neighborhoods and school districts. There are many Jews in this area, but very few in my town.

    Smart minorities always do, it’s a way to support each other in business and benefit from keeping money in the community as long as possible. This concept is completely lost on blacks, though.

  118. — As for the AR’s ‘leading voice,’ I’d say the consensus is that Sailer holds that title, wouldn’t you? (Nikcrit)

    Sailer comes from the HBD/scientific perspective and he is skilled at sounding respectable while fomenting revolutionary thoughts in his readers. But the larger movement is not about leading voices and certainly not about leaders. It’s an awakening. Others come from the Romantic (capital R) direction like Heartiste. There is the rigorous priestly attack wing, like Vox Day. The MRA angle, along with its Christian component like Dalrock. As well as and the 14/88 angle, which in my opinion is the animating spirit of the movement.

    And then there is the think tanks, alt-journalism and Twitter personalities like Ricky Vaughn, Richard Spencer/NPI, Ramzpaul, Milo, etc.

  119. Sailer comes from the HBD/scientific perspective and he is skilled at sounding respectable while fomenting revolutionary thoughts in his readers. But the larger movement is not about leading voices and certainly not about leaders. It’s an awakening. Other leading voices come from the Romantic (capital R) direction like Heartiste. There is the rigorous priestly attack wing, like Vox Day.

    The earliest visionary leaders for the anti-feminist portion of the alt right were Barry Goldwater and Phyllis Schlafly, who Trump praised endlessly a few days ago when she died – and she never got half the credit she damn well deserved:

    https://www.thenation.com/article/phyllis-schlafly-was-alt-right-before-alt-right-was-uncool/

    Both of these mentored Pat Buchanan who probably should be regarded as the rightful father of the alt right, in the widest sense. 35-40 years ago he clearly foresaw the grave ramifications of America’s demographic/generational change, foreign policy entanglements and gradual liberalization (which has accelerated in grotesque form since 2008). He is “Trump’s John the Baptist,” to borrow a term I saw somewhere.

    But every influential movement has several levels – the independence push in Ireland had both the IRA and Sinn Fein cooperating in unison at various times – with each having a military wing, a rank and file core, uninvolved patrons/donors at home and abroad, but also political leads who had to put on the suit to attend conferences and speak in safe, palatable terms to manage the overall movement’s public image.

  120. PA,
    re. Schafly; I know the guy who wrote that article you linked to! He was a longtime local and state-grounded journo and columnist. I’ve yet to read the article, but the fact that he’s writing it assures it’s a critical piece, maybe even a attack, as he’s a middle-brow leftist editorially.

    For some illogical reason I think of Anita Bryant when i hear Schafly’s name; they’re both conservative and shined brightest in the late 70s and early 80s?

  121. Pat Buchanana: OG of da AR.

    Also have to give credit to Duke, Paleocons, Chronicles mag, and of course Taki. (Remember ‘Taki’s Top Drawer’ in early ’00s? Lots of nascent Alt-Right sentiment in the comments section at the time; I was repeatedly banned).

  122. Pat Buchanan actually won a Republican primary in Vermont or some NE state back in the 90’s. I think Dole won the nomination that year.

  123. I wonder how much influence (if any) Derek Turner’s ‘Right NOW!’ mag had on the early Alt-Right? For me it was crucial, helping unite the various threads of trad conservatism, Paleocons, and the European New Right. My introduction to the ENR courtesy of Derek was a game-changer. 14/88 provided the edge.

  124. Behind the suits, fashy haircuts, memery, and in-jokes, I sometimes wonder how many on the Alt-Right have that killer instinct. We may laugh, but this is not a game.

  125. No one is laughing; but i get your point.

    It aint Sailer, it aint Taylor, it aint CH and it is not MPC. And it is (certainly) not LBF or Suburban_elk.

    It remains to be seen.

  126. I want a fashy haircut, right now.

    I got one (last time), but it was from a Hmong girl.

    She was the only girl, who could work those chops. Those white girls, those beauty school drop-outs, are as good as trash.

  127. I hope we don’t have another Griffin on our hands. Remember how disappointing that was?

    Do it yourself. Buy a set of Oster clippers. The ‘undercut’ is not a difficult cut to achieve, if that’s what you’re after.

  128. You know who doesn’t have a great head of hair? Peter Brimelow. I mean, WTF, ol’ chap?! Lose the mop.

  129. “Both of these mentored Pat Buchanan who probably should be regarded as the rightful father of the alt right, in the widest sense. 35-40 years ago he clearly foresaw the grave ramifications of America’s demographic/generational change, foreign policy entanglements and gradual liberalization (which has accelerated in grotesque form since 2008). He is “Trump’s John the Baptist,” to borrow a term I saw somewhere.”

    Buchanan is much more respectful of social reality and he doesn’t pick unnecessary fights nor insults people for things they have no control over, such as ethnicity and gender. Many prominent alt-right figures are censured and harangued, but many have also created or made their situation worse via their own actions. The alt-right loves martyrdom just as bad as a lot of SJW’s bask in their form of it.

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