Aspirational

“Kitsch is the absolute denial of shit,” writes Milan Kundera in The Unbearable Lightness of Being. We scorn kitsch for its exultation decoupled from realism, its lazy pseudo-beauty innocent of struggle. But giving Kundera’s quip more thought, I wondered: what is the opposite of kitsch — in other words, what do you call that which is the absolute denial of anything higher than shit? My answer: the word for that is “pornography” — the salacious kind, along with the other kinds of porn. You know it when you see it.

Someone asked me what I think of the comedian Louis C.K., prefacing his question with “You gotta love his self-deprecating humor, such as the one about his annoying daughter or his rants about being a fat middle-aged man.” “I’m not a fan.” I replied, adding that his act begins and ends on reveling in being a latter-day Ignatius Reilly. The pornographic world of C.K.’s failing fathers and exhibitionistic slobs never transcends mere shit.

So where is that elusive intersection of idealism and candor that is neither kitsch nor porn? You can see it when witnessing greatness, be in in art, in character, even in personal appearance. For example, the Trump family presents itself as aspirational in looking like the best a man, a woman, and even a child can be. This photo was taken at the conclusion of Donald Trump’s formal announcement of his presidential candidacy. Earned pride (and a bit of fatigue in the case of the children) glows on everyone’s face:

trFam1

But many voters don’t like aspirational. Camlost explains:

Yes, the self-assuredness of the Trumps definitely clashes with the parade of grievance whiners that the DNC threw on camera last night. It was an endless stream of remarks by people whose message amounted to little more than “gubmint ain’t doing enough for me.”

There is a growing chasm between people who want to aspire to a higher standard in the important facets of their lives, and people who see higher standards as an affront to their comfort with low expectations. Camlost continues:

PA’s “aspirational” theme reminds me of the puzzlement that you see from Democratic Party leaders when they talk about rural whites often refusing to make use of welfare and not supporting more the politicians who campaign on expanding big government solutions, when NAMs of their same economic class vote emotionally for the handout -promising politicians every time. Democratic leaders just don’t understand that even the poorest whites are still “aspirational” and want to see an America where the self-made and the hard working are the ones who get ahead, and they regard successful businessmen like Trump as they best of that strain of striving American, even if they themselves aren’t able to achieve as much

Funny thing, how some people aspire to more than feed at the trough. And here is a fragment of Suburban_elk’s comment about a different type of people:

The way that white women of the un-aspiring classes dress now. (An analogous criticism exists for the men.)

“Un-aspiring classes” is a useful neologism. Elk elaborates:

The women are afraid to look elegant, and the men don’t want to look competent. Because they’re not. […] They are not taking themselves seriously. Their lives are not taken as something worthwhile. Someone put up a quote by Auster that said it very well, that people (adults) are not dressing with a “larger sense of self.”

And then points to the larger picture:

In the old days, back before we (as a people) were going nowhere — people had a larger sense of themselves, and where they were going. They were on an adventure of life, and though it was usually and often grim and frightful, and disfiguring and agonizing – there was a sense of something Out There.

Whereas now what is out there, where is there to go?

Good question. What is the answer?

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255 thoughts on “Aspirational

  1. Trump is a shameless bon vivant that deserves a shot at the presidency. He will be a refreshing change. But where is the poetry in his seemingly unending poetic license? Do brass balls really belong in real estate? We’ve become a nation of salesmen peddling the esthetic equivalent of e-cigarettes to men who should be hand-rolling their own crisp stogies and conversing regularly with sea & mountain. How is it that space is being conquered by ‘astronauts,’ and not our natural sailors? Unless oceans are on those exoplanets, why are we at all interested?

    ***…reveling in being a latter-day Ignatius Reilly.***

    He doesn’t hold a candle to Ignatius J. Reilly — one of the greatest characterizations in lit I’ve ever come across. J.K. Toole was an example of typical bona fide American greatness as it stands thus far: generally a one-or-two hit wonder, but masterful nonetheless.

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  3. “PA’s “aspirational” theme reminds me of the puzzlement that you see from Democratic Party leaders when they talk about rural whites often refusing to make use of welfare and not supporting more the politicians who campaign on expanding big government solutions, when NAMs of their same economic class vote emotionally for the handout -promising politicians every time. Democratic leaders just don’t understand that even the poorest whites are still “aspirational” and want to see an America where the self-made and the hard working are the ones who get ahead…”

    I.E. “What’s the matter with Kansas?” They can’t see the answer because they don’t want to see it.

  4. Camlost makes a good point. Liberals pretend to be dumbfounded as to why poor whites vote “against their own economic interests.” They are aspirational. We are an aspirational race.

  5. Reminds me of the era back when men and women wore hats when they went out, back when you’d dress in your finest to board an airplane.

    I read an article awhile back about even taking time to dress well when gathering for holidays, such as Thanksgiving and Christmas.

    Even before taking the redpill, I would dress slovenly, as the job I had at the time had no dress code. I was in school at the time and took a class on the film musical–and the way the men dressed, always suits or sportscoats and slacks, really spoke to me. I said I was gonna dress like that and I did–well, slacks at least–albiet a few years later when I could afford it

    I recall my mom would chastise me about how I used to dress to work and say, “You don’t even tuck in your shirt?” Then one day, I was channel flipping and came across G4. I saw the guy and thought, “what a slob!” since his shirt was untucked. Ahhh—I finally saw what my mom was getting at. I tuck in almost every shirt I wear. For me now to leave it untucked, I feel like a slob.

  6. Donald Trump is an American profiteer, a product of their decadant civilization. He has nothing to do with white revolution, and without his $$$ he would be powerless against the multicult. What has he to be proud of?

    I do not see “success” or future of the white race in that picture. They are not warriors or revolutionaries. Cash is their ideology. Many white men today want to be slick jews, with their finger in the pie and their mansion on the hill with the hot blonde wife.

    IF…the white race survives, they will develop an entirely different value system. Not working for someone else’s money. Maybe printing their own or better yet, stealing it from our enemies.

    There are keener pleasures in life than having a big bank account. To be feared by your enemy, for him to know that he lives because you have decided it, THAT is worth more. The white man must learn there are more important things than a job or career which would be spent working for our enemy.

  7. “So where is that elusive intersection of idealism and candor that is neither kitsch nor porn? You can see it when witnessing greatness, be it in art, in character, even in personal appearance. For example, the Trump family presents itself as aspirational in looking like the best a man, a woman, and even a child can be. This photo was taken at the conclusion of Donald Trump’s formal announcement of his presidential candidacy. Earned pride (and a bit of fatigue in the case of the children) glows on everyone’s face:”

    To me, this is nonsensical and childishly idealistic and biased. What you said could apply to virtually any posed family shot of a political candidate. It doesn’t even matter that, given the politico who you were referring to, your words are also slightly ironic as well.

  8. “Liberals pretend to be dumbfounded as to why poor whites vote “against their own economic interests.” They are aspirational. We are an aspirational race.”

    Yes, just as are the people and interests of the ‘corporate-finance class,’ y’might say. One aspires to what one deserves, you could say. lol.

  9. p.s.—–re. kitsch and porn.

    In fact, if someone was ungenerous in their view, they could say that Trump in many ways is kitschy and pornographic in his parodically ”bad-rich guy’ chaaracteristics; the lack of grace, the childishly petty and compulsive urge to gloat and to avenge the slightest criticism, no matter how inconsequential. I think those are universally undesirable traits; I don’t like the moral and political sanctimony that is behind much Trump criticism, either. But I try not to mistake the message for the messenger.

    Trump is a necessary American political development. But Trump is also a buffoon.

  10. One aspires to what one deserves, you could say. lol.

    It seems that Trickin is suggesting that whites asking for no handouts deserve nothing.

    It is an error in logic, to equate no handouts from the government, with nothing.

    Such an error in logic, based on the idea that all goods and services come from the magic government, is laughably African.

    Africans do not create wealth. They do not create surplus energy. They didn’t have to in Africa, and they don’t here in this country.

    They are entirely a burden.

  11. What you said could apply to virtually any posed family shot of a political candidate.

    Except that you can’t.

    Or go ahead and post some photos and see how they compare.

    The point is that they don’t.

    The intangibles of looking good. There is no comparable photo of the Clintons, or the Bushes, where those people don’t look like the sick fucks that they are.

    But please, Trickin — post some pictures to make your point.

  12. Mendo, I temember as a boy having to wear a blazer, OCBD, chinos, and loafers on flights.

  13. It is so obvious that Trump is not of the political class, and is a different sort of man — and the difference is in quality.

    There is an ancient Chinese saying,

    Some things can be sensed but not explained.

    And this is the case with Trump and his family.

    Contra the Clintons and the Bushes, the Trumps do not radiate psychopathic sickness and degeneracy. Contra every single other pol on the scene this cycle: Rubio Ryan, and most of all Hillary Clinton — are so obviously sick people, that anyone not seeing that, is not qualified to participate in democracy.

    That is my gripe about Hillary supporters. Not that they don’t like Trump, but that they don’t see — immediately — that Hillary is a sick psychopath with no empathy, and in any sane society she would never have lasted, much less risen to the top.

    The recent video of Hillary, the compilation of her sick behavior, her seizures and tics and expressions, and obvious manifestations of ill health, is worth a watch,

  14. All “we” need to remember is that the enemies of wS were saying much the same things about Romney four years ago.

    TRUMP is a “white” liberationist READY for conversion to wS BY THE VERY PERSONAL and PUBLIC STANDARDS he claims to abide.

    His ascension BY THE collective will is towards wS, period.

    He MUST BE RELENTLESSLY pressed in our direction NO MATTER WHAT reversal he attempts to employ.

    Meanwhile…

    Hillary Clinton JUST IS THE FACE of anti-white Supremacy, through and through. Her physical dilapidation just is “the wages of sin.” Her temporal mental paralysis must be the her inevitable death for waging sin against the most spirited of white men.

    “The wages of sin are death…”

    And death to those who wage sin against wS.

  15. The default assumption is Trump as “controlled opposition.” Trump is “jewhite” FOR SURE. This is race-realism 2016.

    BUT…

    It does not change OUR aims.

    Not all “controlled opposition” is equal and Trump has shown a willingness to rock the boat and teeter of the edges of respectable “elite” maneuvering.

    IT STILL DOES NOT CHANGE the fundamental calculus.

    Instead, it shows “us” a Trump that must be pressed hard right at the very moment he will be pressured to go “center” for a “general” election.

    Yet… THERE IS NO “center” in any “general” election anymore. There are only infinite degrees of anti-wS upon a sliding scale to degeneracy And furthermore, there is no “general” election that does not just equate with “generic” which in turn speaks to a “default” state.

    Are “we” not to narrate something more realistic? And make Trump mouth “our” words?

  16. td: So Mr. Trump… Would you say your drive to a perfect success came through the lessons of your father?

    Trump: Well thordaddy, I would definitely say my father was a very important model for my vision of success. But, my grandFATHER also stoked my desires for success. And of course, at my age the opportunities for continued success dwindle in the big scheme of things and so you seek out a refining of what you are and what you have and where you came from.

    td: Carry on…

    Trump: What I’m saying is that even as we physically degrade, we can still spiritually ascend and this Ascension is and will always be towards The Father.

    td: Hmm. So what of anti-racism? Do you think it a virulently infectious ideology that can destroy white nations?

    Trump: Well… Wow! I hadn’t really wrapped my head around the idea of anti-racism. Anti-racism? You mean…. The push for equality?

    td: I mean the ideology of those AGAINST “race,” especially the white race as a real, coherent collective will. These ARE THE INDIVIDUALS aligned AGAINST YOU under the guise of your “racism?”

    Trump: Huh… Well, I’m not a racist…

    td: Buttjew you just said your drive and desire came through your father(s). That’s RACISM… Your race is your father. Unless you’re Jewish.

    Trump: Well thordaddy… I mean… I hadn’t really put things together in that manner.

    td: So you don’t “see” in the desire for “equality” a hatred for your fathers? That your fathers NEVER INSTILLED a desire or drive for equality within you isn’t the truth?

    Trump: Hmmm?

  17. White father must prepare to be accountable.

    Not to the hordes.

    But to their children…

    For all they know is radical autonomy and self-annihilation.

    It ain’t goin’ to be pretty.

    And for the fatherless, it’s much collateral damage ahead.

    Six degrees of fried Bacon.

  18. “It seems that Trickin is suggesting that whites asking for no handouts deserve nothing.

    No, not at all what i intended to suggest; moreso, that one’s ‘aspirations’ bring them unanticipated grief and hassle as well as that certain deliverance, etc.

    But your point is taken, as my comment was poorly and vaguely worded

  19. Excuse my grammatical assymwtric insurgency. I’ve dabbled in radical autonomy far too long to seeminlgly rid all its remnants.

  20. “The point is that they don’t……..The intangibles of looking good. There is no comparable photo of the Clintons, or the Bushes, where those people don’t look like the sick fucks that they are……But please, Trickin — post some pictures to make your point.”

    No, my point was that what to you was clearly and plainly self-evident was totally invisible to me: that the Trump family together radiated some clearly positive element that otherr recent presidential families didn’t.
    You worded that sentiment as it was clearly self-evident in a night-vs-day way —– but i contend that it is not that evident; that this sort of ‘rub-the-picture’ phrenology does not reveal anything all that exceptional —– or UNexceptional, for that matter.

    Personally, I don’t think the Trump females are all that hot; i think i hit better shit than that in the 90s; fuk all that exalted cookie-cutter WASP shit as aesthetic; their historic civilizational worth is evident and undeniable and etc, ad-infinitum —– but the physical aesthetic is only superior when rendered subjectively.

    The females in the Trump family look idyllic in that Scandinavian/nordic/eastern-european mode or whatever; you see girls of that look, disposition and caliber every hour of every day in the Twin Cities. Tell you the truth, Melania or whatever her name is looks like some of my maternal cousins, close and distant…Donald? He had a machismo-like charisma in his younger days, but he hasn’t aged too well; he should’ve done something to ward of those hair jokes much sooner, as now they are culturally legion, and thus now stock.

  21. Jeezus Katie-Eyed Christ, that Shillary vid is creepy as hell. “Emotional illiteracy,” without question. Nikcrit, unless you harbor feelings of deference toward feminist extra-terrestrials, I suggest you board the Trump Train – and look forward to arriving at gradually better railway stations. It may turn out greater than the 90s you revere.

  22. “that Shillary vid is creepy as hell.”

    That Shillary vid is just one more piece of tawdry and ill-produced redpill-vs-bluepill propaganda. And the creepiest thing about it the narrator’s tone and voice; it makes one thankful that it’s so poorly recorded.

  23. If her hubby had gone into piracy, Shillary would be helping him scalp tourists for kicks, right along with the other Machiavellians of the waters. All civilizations have succumbed to woman so far, all have faded into the propaganda of history. I reject Bill’s leftovers, as should any properly American male

  24. thor: “Excuse my grammatical assymwtric insurgency. I’ve dabbled in radical autonomy far too long to seeminlgly rid all its remnants.”

    Well, maybe if i go under your academic tutelage, my prose will become more clear and effective, yes?

    Now I’ve seen everything; T-daddy chastising me for ‘assymetric’ clarity and grammar!

  25. “That is my gripe about Hillary supporters. Not that they don’t like Trump, but that they don’t see — immediately — that Hillary is a sick psychopath with no empathy, and in any sane society she would never have lasted, much less risen to the top.”

    I see and appreciate the effort to clarify the diatribe here; to qualify just what is and isn’t (or should not be) under the microscope.

    But: in this case is the comparison really that clean cut and dried? I mean, when I see unflattering Hillary clips, I consistently see pronounced formulaic and predictable press-conference speak; i see one constantly mindful to stay ‘on message,’ to the point of becoming a ‘robo-pol,’ along with other nauseating exemplars of a seasoned ‘robo-pol.’

    But Trump doesn’t have equally irritating and erratic personal quirks? However refreshing his unscripted ‘live-wire’ soothsayer moments, I also see a very petty and vainglorious temperament; a guy who’s immune to insight of the non-self-serving kind. And given the context of our political ‘here-and-now,’ one can even find refreshing some of his non-cautious actings out. But he too is certainly parodic and unflattering if one choose to do a YT parody compilation of his quirks, no?

    Parse the distractions and get to the heart of the matter, I say.

  26. Nikcrit…

    You make a superficially persuasion case ONLY because “degree of anti-white Supremacy” is not your finalized metric. If it were, there is literally no contest. The only question is the conviction of Billary’s anti-wS versus Trump’s nominalistic concession to a “white supremacy” reconceptualized as genuine wS AND “our” willingness to press for more liberal concession NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS tomorrow or the next day.

  27. Nikcrit…

    If you cannot honestly call Trump a “white supremacist” THEN he cannot be a burden and liability to genuine wS. The radicals will try nonetheless, but Nikcrit STILL KNOWS BETTER.

  28. — Donald Trump is an American profiteer, a product of their decadant civilization. He has nothing to do with white revolution, and without his $$$ he would be powerless against the multicult. (Ryu)

    I like your and FP’s work but I am wary of the kind of “it’s never good enough” attitude like above. Trump and his family have sacrificed a lot of cash and more, if for no other reason than to WAKE UP the catatonic Murkan, breathe some life into the rest of us, and bring a host of existential matters to the forefront. He is attacking our enemy Globalists. He’s calling the vampires out by name. Revolutionaries succeed when they have a friend at the top.

    — To me, this is nonsensical and childishly idealistic and biased. What you said could apply to virtually any posed family shot of a political candidate. (Nikcrit)

    Elk pointed out how degenerate many political families look. Look, I think my post was clear: I pointed to the Trump family, substance aside (of which they have plenty), as a example of an IMAGE of greatness by way of their public appearance. As you saw, several commenters and I bounced the subject around in an earlier comment thread before I shaped it into this post’s format. It started with my immediate impression of Melania walking on stage and my thoughts “what a glorious First Lady, what a woman…” spurred by her classical beauty and grace. I was further impressed by how she, Donald, and Barron simply looked onstage. This is a post (when referring to the Trumps) about aspirational image.

    — In fact, if someone was ungenerous in their view, they could say that Trump in many ways is kitschy and pornographic in his parodically ”bad-rich guy’ chaaracteristics; the lack of grace, the childishly petty and compulsive urge to gloat and to avenge the slightest criticism, no matter how inconsequential. (Nikcrit)

    All nonsense. I saw an otherwise smart Trump-hater in real life spaz about how “only glue sniffers would vote for that retard.” Trump is none of the things that his detractors say. I see him as a visionary and brilliant man with a flair for theatre. Great leaders have that.

    — Contra the Clintons and the Bushes, the Trumps do not radiate psychopathic sickness and degeneracy. Contra every single other pol on the scene this cycle: Rubio Ryan, and most of all Hillary Clinton — are so obviously sick people, that anyone not seeing that, is not qualified to participate in democracy. (Suburban_elk)

    Exactly.

    — Trump: Hmmm? (Thordady)

    You stumped the Trump! I enjoyed the fictitious dialogue. But I don’t picture Trump tagging along anyone’s dialectical leash.

    — Personally, I don’t think the Trump females are all that hot; i think i hit better shit than that in the 90s; fuk all that exalted cookie-cutter WASP shit as aesthetic (Nikcrit)

    Hey, we like what we like. What was that ode to classical beauty from Edgar Allan Poe: “Thy hyacinth hair, thy classic face, / Thy Naiad airs have brought me home / to the glory that was Greece / And the grandeur that was Rome.” As far as the face of America as idealized by everyone who has ever admired this nation, Trump women measure up.

  29. — I suggest you board the Trump Train – and look forward to arriving at gradually better railway stations. (Each Pond Gone)

    and…

    –I reject Bill’s leftovers, as should any properly American male (Each Pond Gone)

    Beautiful!

  30. Sorcerygod has deleted his blog. The kid has flair but he needed banning. Like I said early on, he’s probably a teenager and he’ll eventually find what works for him. I wish him well.

  31. “Hey, we like what we like…… As far as the face of America as idealized by everyone who has ever admired this nation, Trump women measure up.”

    Agreed. Perhaps i was a bit more personal and confrontational than usual in earlier retorts. But I agree and know that my somewhat contrarian bona fides and commentary here is, umm, less jibeful than that of others. I was compelled to point out that sub elk’s declarations re. the Trump family’s symbolic iconry were less cut-n-dried than he declared, which i know is a subjective opinion, as was my dissent….. IDK. A lot of this stuff is highly dependent on our deeply varying cultural points of departure; i just get a little bit impatient with all the social and political conjecture that follows from these often deeply subjective measures. And along those lines, I just am led to believe that your and, say, peterike’s objective detachment is a bit lacking in what goes into your overall denouement of ‘The Donald.’ I laid it out in what I felt was a succinct obliquoy to our political times: A needed but flawed figure for our macro-flawed times.

    We’re all to some degree the products of our meta fates and their originating points of departure. But since we have this 21st-technology allowing us to hone and convey those born-into burdens and blessings, let us scholarly gents convey as much and then bring it on, chips fall as they may..

  32. Nikcrit…

    If it is not cut and dried then it is a matter of degrees… But matter of degree of what is the critical MEASURE. And in this case, as compared to the Clintons, Bushes and Obamas (all mismatched husband/wife duos), the Trumps STAND IN FAR LESSER DEGREE as the image of anti-white Supremacy than any presidential family in nearly a quarter of a century.

    This is the measured manner in which to analyze “default elite” maneuvering.

    And if your understand of anti-white Supremacy is as a superb articulation of anti-racism then it is clear that the Trump family SUFFERS THE LEAST AMOUNT of hatred for the father. The Trumps being the least anti-wS JUST MEANS the Trump family are the least anti-Donald Trump. This is fundamentally regenerate. And it can be advanced in the cause of white Supremacy.

  33. Edit:

    And if your [understanding] of anti-white Supremacy is as a superb articulation of anti-racism…

  34. It’s certainly a matter of conversion through convergence. The Trumps are the first “elites” in a long while to break from dogmatic “equality.” Ergo, the Trumps are not real converts to Liberalism and just are noticeably less anti-wS than ALL THE PAST AND RECENT contenders on any side.

  35. “But matter of degree of what is the critical MEASURE. And in this case, as compared to the Clintons, Bushes and Obamas (all mismatched husband/wife duos), the Trumps STAND IN FAR LESSER DEGREE as the image of anti-white Supremacy than any presidential family in nearly a quarter of a century.”

    IOW: Mo’ money and power brings idiosyncratic increments of mo’ refined and symmetrically featured NW-European-featured mistress/wife and descendent bearer. The bigger the bank, the better the ‘ho….Glory days redux!

    OK. I certainly wouldn’t argue otherwise; I mean, I take note of evident truth in our hyper-mediated ‘here and now’ as well as the next guy.

    Are we on the same page now?

  36. btw, I love how one of our regulars brought in Taylor Swift to articulate some of the female aesthetic detail is at stake in our prudent measures here on this fall’s election. Righteous!

    [slow down, superman. it was a joke. –PA]

  37. Nikcrit…

    It is not IMAGE OF….

    But…

    A REAL, NOTICEABLE lack of anti-racism within the Trump family…

    Ergo, there is in the Trump family a love of Donald Trump that exceeds all presidential families for the last twenty five years.

    Look at it whichever way you want…

    IT IS THE PULL of wS AS next radical step. Call it a consolidation. A real Trump. The Trump family is the most consolidated family about the core that is the father Donald Trump. Ergo, the Trumps ARE NOT VERY anti-racist. And yet, not genuine wS. So “we” beckon at what Trump has claimed. A consolidation is the trump “we” seek. And “we” AT LEAST narrate the gloriousness of Racism that is the Trump family… A real throwback to Patriarchal Virtue. A genuine consolidation around the man they call father.

  38. Nikcrit…
    It is not IMAGE OF….
    But…
    A REAL, NOTICEABLE lack of anti-racism within the Trump family…

    Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner from T-Diddy.

    Trickin, when it comes to the Trump family it’s not so much their physical image, characteristics and looks that tell the “aspirational” story about them. It’s a degree of self-confidence to flaunt themselves proudly in the face of their denial of the state religions of anti-racism and liberalism. The carry themselves more like a patrician American family of old, who operate on the moral code of generations past.

  39. I like your and FP’s work but I am wary of the kind of “it’s never good enough” attitude like above. Trump and his family have sacrificed a lot of cash and more, if for no other reason than to WAKE UP the catatonic Murkan, breathe some life into the rest of us, and bring a host of existential matters to the forefront.

    You see this a lot with political movements – at some point they get into an arms race falling over themselves to prove who is most ideologically “pure” and down for the cause.

    So, every time Trump is mentioned in the alt-right you can be sure some self-proclaimed WN will soon come along and say “well, Trump is not a white nationalist.” My response to that:

    1. No duh, he couldn’t become a viable national political candidate if he was an avowed White Nationalist.
    2. We don’t need him to tow any WN party lines or pass any WN “litmus tests,” we just need him to close the freaking border and do his duty – others should be willing to do theirs.
    3. We don’t need Trump to be a WN anyway, we aren’t negros here and we don’t look to any political figure to be our messianic, divine WN in flesh who comes along and waves a wand and solve all of our problems from above. Wanting Trump to be everything you want him to be is quite an unrealistic and almost childlike idea at the core, in my estimation.

  40. Personally, I don’t think the Trump females are all that hot; i think i hit better shit than that in the 90s; fuk all that exalted cookie-cutter WASP shit as aesthetic

  41. Sorcerygod has deleted his blog. The kid has flair but he needed banning. Like I said early on, he’s probably a teenager and he’ll eventually find what works for him. I wish him well.

    Whoever it is that operated the blog is having massive identity problems right now, maybe due to youth but clearly also due to many other factors.

    “Sorcery God” could just as easily pop back up 1 year from now as the biggest and most rabid anti-racist liberal in history, attempting to curry favor by constantly referring back to his “bad old days” as a racist, oppressive WN blogger.

  42. ***The kid has flair but he needed banning.***

    SG, if you read this — forget the writing game. At least for a good 15 years. You need hard *experience,* in whatever realm draws your interest. You seem rather persistent. This rang through even your fanatical insincerity. Get in the ring, kid. Doesn’t matter how you’re currently built. Throw some gloves on for 10 hrs+/day and eventually start boxing professionally. Keep hustling for rent money, or initially crash on girls’ couches who are just out of college. Always a shame to lose a white warrior to heroin or suicide — you just need to stop imitating what you believe to be “PUAs” and find your stroke of authenticity.

  43. ***at some point they get into an arms race falling over themselves to prove who is most ideologically “pure” and down for the cause.***

    This is why I can’t stomach politics as often as some of you guys. I see this in t-daddy, although I respect a lot of the gems he unveils. Taking Nietzsche to task before reading a line of his drew my admiration, in certain respects

  44. Wanting Trump to be everything you want him to be is quite an unrealistic and almost childlike idea at the core, in my estimation.

    Well stated, Camlost. My sentiments exactly.

    I get the impression that even his haters want him to be absolutely perfect and will deride any misstep, however minutes and insignificant–well, that is, it’s only a misstep in their eyes.

    Which makes me think that these people are so hungry for a leader, only they don’t know it, so when someone who possess the leadership skills of Trump comes along, it freaks them out because it didn’t match their image of what leadership should be, which would not compute, since most of them are sheep and have no idea what leadership looks like.

    Not unlike the jews that rejected Christ because he wasn’t adorned in gold and wasn’t wiping the floor with the Romans, much like how David was the warrior poet. Christ didn’t match their image of what the messiah should be/look like.

  45. “The carry themselves more like a patrician American family of old, who operate on the moral code of generations past.”

    Total projection, fresh from the psyche’s political wish list.

    You don’t have anywhere near enough intel to make such a guess rationally.

    Which is fine, but it is what it is.

    “Which makes me think that these people are so hungry for a leader, only they don’t know it, so when someone who possess the leadership skills of Trump comes along, it freaks them out “

    Wow. In fact, Trump has the ego fragility of a eight-year-old boy; not what one usually looks for in a leader.

    “Christ didn’t match their image of what the messiah should be/look like.”

    Hmmmm…

  46. @camlost,

    Yeah, really. Nordic white femininity is fine, but not the exclusive measure of female beauty, unless you want it to be.

    It’s that stupid, pussywhipped pedelization to begin with that creates all that insufferably sanctimonious p.c. backlash ——– i.e., vilifiying blondes and then exalting any-and-all symmetrically refined female ‘others,’ etc.

    And there’s also a regionalism element in play in such measures; people who live in, say, the Twin Cities don’t get so enamored with the whole blonde, Scandinavian aesthetic because it’s so prevalent and familiar there——- a poverty of abundance, y’might say! lol…

    Whatever, just keep telling your alt-right comrades to keep listening to their master, CH; he’ll lead ’em to the promised land. (I at least give you credit for maintaining a cynical eye toward that aspect of ‘the manosphere).

  47. Total projection, fresh from the psyche’s political wish list.

    You don’t have anywhere near enough intel to make such a guess rationally.

    The hell I don’t, just look at their hardened and somewhat aloof public personas. They don’t give a damn what the riffraff liberal press says about them or their father.

    How many times have you seen a Trump family member run behind and kowtow to all of these “racism” charges being leveled at Trump? Not once. They don’t feel the need to grovel and apologize to the public because they have backbone and their own internal/moral behavioral compass and they know their father.

    But yes I agree that Trump sometimes looks very bad because he’s too thin-skinned, that’s often the mark of someone who spent a lot of their formative years already being wealthy and powerful and without anyone to answer to. (like a voting public, shareholders or corporate bosses) Overall, he needs to work on that one quality that Richard Nixon once said is the absolute key for any American political figure – and that’s a sense of magnanimity, which is a mature sense of self confidence that helps you rise about pettiness and appear quite dignified in the face of criticism. (very similar quality to what LOTB refers to as “gravitas”.

  48. “The hell I don’t, just look at their hardened and somewhat aloof public personas. They don’t give a damn what the riffraff liberal press says about them or their father.”

    whatever. We’re being casual here, not making legal arguments. In fact, i recall noting after Trump’s daughter spoke at the GOP convention that she wasn’t angry but rather mildly annoyed and matter-of-fact in ‘defending’ charges that her dad was biased and discriminatory. That was the one time i recall the issue ever being raised toward Trump, discounting the p.c. griping about specific phrases he used and incidents he had with past associates, and I felt and said that tactic to her speech was effective.

    IDK. I’m so used to being put in the position of the odd-man-out-trickster when it comes to racially polarized issues that i feel i can thrive-and-survive regardless of whatever ‘side’ prevails. The discord offers ‘reads’ of both white and black groupthink behavior, and somewhere therein lies profit. Trying to be a reconciliator will get you nowhere fast; too many people wouldn’t have things any other way.

  49. p.s.—– i forgot to add that in the speech by Trump’s daughter, she DID indeed include some obligatory ‘blue-pill speak’ —– more a nod to the current times than a deep concession, IMO —— but then immediately resumed the poised and matter-of-fact defense of her dad, all the while being non-defensive, even mildly ‘ironically amused’ in the process.

    I thought the daughter’s speech was the best one at the GOP convention.

  50. Uh oh. Brazilian fans hurl “anti-gay” slurs at USA, Canada and Australian women’s soccer teams, with each of them having multiple open lesbian players:

    http://www.outsports.com/2016/8/5/12377196/gay-chant-puto-bicha-olympics-rio

    Mexican fans in the USA did the same during a game in Santa Clara where Mexico was crushed by Chile. The Mexican fans booed, jeered and aimed anti-gay slurs at their own team 1 week, this was just 1 week after the Orlando shooting:

    http://www.outsports.com/2016/6/19/11972274/mexico-chile-copa-puto-gay-slur

    White American conservatives to blame. somehow.

  51. Trump is flawed, but he is the best we have now. Just saw a political commercial of Trump being teased on Letterman. He handled it well, IMO.

  52. I don’t think anyone has ever said only natural blondes are good looking. I’m not a natural blonde and I’ve never felt inferior because of it.

  53. It’s non white or ethnic men who tend to overrate blue eyed blondes. My blue eyed blond haired brother doesn’t even particularly like blue eyed blonde women.

  54. ***Brazilian fans hurl “anti-gay” slurs at USA…***

    Watched a Phelps race last night. A younger South American ingrate (might have been Brazilian) was shaking his jewels in Phelps’s face. The champ stared right through him, as if the ochre comedian wasn’t even a piece of glass. He kept his headphones on and waited patiently to swim. The human marlin proceeded to destroy the cocksure challenger in the pool – and even politely shook his hand afterwards. A true embodiment of class

  55. Someone asked me what I think of the comedian Louis C.K., prefacing his question with “You gotta love his self-deprecating humor, such as the one about his annoying daughter or his rants about being a fat middle-aged man.”

    Speaking of Louis CK, he had this really bizarre monologue on SNL where he talks about his “mild racism” and Child Molesters. His part about Child Molesters went over like a lead balloon, I think he was trying to make the understated point that the risk and effort they undertake must therefore prove that they can’t actually control themselves and are already predisposed to become a Chester:

  56. Nikcrit…

    You know what anti-racism will get you?

    It will get you two former First Families plus a current First Family ALL BELOW replacement level having created a “whopping” five daughters amongst three Presidents WITH NOT A single son between them. The symbolic significance of such a spectacular void speaks to the sinister nature of “equality.”

  57. Another aspect of the Trumps that is becoming evermore recognizable is the absolute fraud that is an “elite” class dysfunctionallly “married” to the bridezilla of “equality.” And because the perverted formulation has been floating about in the background for literally CENTURIES then an aspect of the epiphany as it concerns “elite” desire for “equality” is a more fundamental pining for a “default” status. In other words, the Western man has known for hundreds and hundreds of years that:

    Elite = superior and “equality” = state of sameness SUCH THAT an “elite” espousing “equality” IS NONSENSICAL to the point of deliberate deception. Orwell said it was the anti-reality of “some being more equal than others.”

    And this is what the Trumps represents. A break from this “default elite” deception. A break from the fraud that are those “more equal than others” LYING OF THEIR desire for all to be equal IN ORDER TO RETAIN a superior status MADE default.

    In short, Trump has enough resources, a strong enough family and a circle of allies to seek ACTUAL ELITENESS and dispense with the fatally flawed fallacy that is an “elite” desire for “equality,” ie., anti-Supremacy.

  58. An “elite” of “white” anti-white Supremacists is the definition of inevitable implosion. There will be AT LEAST ONE within this thoroughly duplicitous herd IN NEED OF A REAL elite fix. Trump is just that man. Give credit where credit is due and nothing more. By stepping outside this murderly malformed mayhem that is UncleBeast and AuntieFeast, Trump HAS SIGNALED DESIRE for objective Supremacy…. A real eliteness that SELF-EVIDENTLY transcends the paltry and pathetic plea that is “equality.”

  59. Edit:

    By stepping outside this [murderously] malformed mayhem that is UncleBeast and AuntieFeast, Trump HAS SIGNALED DESIRE for objective [(white)] Supremacy….

  60. The neighborhood child molester.

    We had a junior high school teacher, an art teacher (of course), who was a “pervert” and it was said that his MO was to look down girls shirts as they were leaned over on their drawings.

    And among us kids, the questions was, Is he a pervert or not? as if it reduced to that.

    Looking back now, the answer is clear that yeah he was a “pervert”. He made 13 year-old girls uncomfortable and therefore. But he never crossed any lines of legality.

    My dad told of a guy in his neighborhood who had choral (rhymes with oral) groups with the boys, in the basement.

    There is something to that observation, that back when social capital was stronger, and people had neighborhoods, child molesters were to some degree incorporated into the social fabric rather than turned into these menaces online that are feature stories for the news.

  61. You can’t really fight unless you close the gap. So you must narrate by impositional convergence. So fighting and reality-writing are “executed” by the same human mechanism. You are literally “in” or “out” with an unbridgeable schism between.

  62. And Elk… This leads “us” to “Freddy Krueger” (reality-writing) and the very diabolically fatalistic idea that the more extreme the side of Good takes against an evil within the greater Evil shall react in kind. You read this same penchant for self-annihilation in all the liberated reactions to evil. Kill ISIS equals more ISIS. Closet more faggots equals more faggots. Diss more dykes equals more dykes. Jew the Jew equals more Jews. Niggard the nigger equals more niggers. Deport the migger equals more miggers. And burn Freddy the child molester/murderer alive and Freddy is everywhere now ready to burn you alive.

  63. Nikcrit…

    Your 6:40pm “comment” is “radical autonomy.”

    Meaning, the word “ridiculous” has no tangible relation to the facts I ve stated and can only POTENTIALLY relate to the assertion I made…

    Which is… Just to clarify…

    That a hatred of father within a family will reduce fertility towards female only father/mother/child unions if towards anything at all.

    What is ACTUALLY “ridiculous” about the above assertion?

    AND WHAT do you fathom could bring about four consecutive presidential families with a total of five children and no sons (as compared to Trump’s five children including three sons)?

    Anti-racism within the modern family unit HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT?

    This ^^^ is what you MUST CLAIM for your “ridiculous” to have a scintilla of meaning.

    Otherwise…

    Radical autonomy is what you espouse.

  64. I’m finally starting to pickup on what TD’s getting at.

    I’m fairly new to PA’s blog and combing through the comments but it’s getting clearer.

  65. — I’m fairly new to PA’s blog (mendo)

    Glad to see you here, man. Say what you will about Thordaddy (I’ve had occasions of modding him out of sheer annoyance), but he’s got genuine wisdom that occasionally reaches his readers, and he is someone you’d want to have in your corner, anytime.

  66. Thor: I probably didn’t register your intended meaning, whatever that might’ve been. I just meant it ‘ridiculous’ to read that much into the random fated fact that the last three u.s. presidents had only daughters: 2,2,1; right……… in any case, it’s happened before. And despite your complexities, I tend to agree with our blog host’s comment preceding this one: “…..he’s got genuine wisdom that occasionally reaches his readers….. “

    Just try not to make us look foolish acknowledging as much, eh?

  67. Nikcrit…

    Again… My message is a simple one.

    Anti-racism is HATRED of the father(s).

    Anti-racism is deleterious to the any free-willed man’s family.

    Anti-racism CAUSES below replacement level fertility AND an unspoken culling of future fathers by their “mothers.”

    Anti-racism is a pathologically-virulent ideology of extreme infectiousness amongst those most fearful and loathing of wS.

    Anti-racism is known as “equality” in passive-cuck speech and iis, in actuality, anti-wS in creed and deed.

  68. child molesters were to some degree incorporated into the social fabric

    Not child molesters, but rather perverts.

    Technology has given Chesters the opportunity to actively seek an outlet for their illegal desires. In the days of yesteryear their only option was the quiet and sneaky way. But their MO was still the same – to seek to take advantage of the weak, the exposed and the fatherless. (which is exactly what Jerry Sandusky did with his “foundation” that helped “at risk” boys from broken homes who could be easily manipulated. And the Rotherham molesters played the same game, picking on needy white girls from single mother-led homes. But the Rotherham thing couldn’t easily happen in the USA since poor white girls are not urban here.

    Thordaddy – please keep up the good work you’ve done lately, especially the part about agreeing with me on this Trump stuff. But one thing I need to know – what is the opposite of radical autonomy?

    @Trickin – is this you actually admitting that your handle is an anagram of Trickin’:

    I’m so used to being put in the position of the odd-man-out-trickster

    And BTW, we just don’t think you’re getting the whole Trump phenomenon, especially the whole Aspirational thing. It’s just zooming right over your head.

  69. “I’m so used to being put in the position of the odd-man-out-trickster”

    No. Honestly. It was made up on the fly, so i could comment on Guy White; I think i was thinking ‘critic’ and liked the ‘nikcrit’ sound, as when pronounced it sounds sorta like a cricket chirp. IDK. But the moniker was mainly borne out of expedience to get up and running on Guy White.

    “And BTW, we just don’t think you’re getting the whole Trump phenomenon, especially the whole Aspirational thing. It’s just zooming right over your head. “

    But I do! I cite a comment of mine on this very post: “I don’t like the moral and political sanctimony that is behind much Trump criticism, either. But I try not to mistake the message for the messenger…….Trump is a necessary American political development. But Trump the man is also a buffoon at times. “ (slightly ammended from original for typos and clarity, nikcrit).

    That quote of mine basically echoes your own declarations about Trump. He’s flawed but his a base-core anti-p.c. rallying source and groundswell for more detailed work down the line. I could cite other quotes of mine saying as much; take for my word, ‘cuz it’s been consistent. No need to build a strawman than burn it.

  70. p.s.—– if i had any idea how much i’d be using it in the future, and could reconsider up a better handle, i’d change ‘nikcrit’ ——- but i’ve sorta built a lot of brand into that avatar; it’s become a sorta symbol of half-breed semi-dissent in the alt-right sphere; WordPress itself apparently even thought so, and sought out my assessment….. it’s kind of funny how those things develop.

    It wasn’t exactly some dignified and thought out execution of an idea, lol.

  71. The “trickin” anagram hit me moments before pressing Publish in that Superman post months ago, and it was early in the morning. I wanted to give the draft one more read-over and something had bugged me about you — I actually slept badly for that reason — and that was it. I did the quick edits to add the anagram thing and then pressed Publish.

    Trainspotter (in the comments) did the dialectical heavy lifting under that post. Ricky Vaughn tweeted one of his longer comments, which sent astronomical traffic here.

    By the way, I knew you first from OneStdv six or seven years ago, and I thought “critic” was the inspiration for your handle, with your past career.

  72. “[M]ade up on the fly” is shorthand for I had no deeper explanation for my “HBD effect” at that time or this one either.

    I suggest “tric(k) kin” as in “betray blood” born of a radically autonomous origin.

  73. Need it need saying
    I side with white Supremacy
    And I’m not playing
    That game of liberation
    Where you gain
    By claiming
    Equality is “truth”
    And Supremacy is mayhem
    That goyim wreck
    Upon a universal “yes-man”
    No can
    Do
    Is a groove
    Of dialectic
    Smooth move
    In a real man
    Who stands
    With hands
    Up
    Ready to set
    Bands of
    Able-minded white boys
    With glands tough
    Balls to the wall
    We have an existential crisis
    So it’s white man’s up…

    So where do YOU STAND???

  74. How much longer do we tear down the liberals for destroying tradition and having nothing to replace it with while we tear down liberals with nothing to replace Liberalism with?

    If “radical autonomy” is self-annihilation then the “opposite” of self-annihilation is the regenerate perfecting of the self.

    BUT…

    This ^^^ requires an axiomatic, pre-rational, deeply instinctual belief in the existence of Perfection, ie., objective Supremacy, as unquestioned meta-physical reality.

    Ergo, ONE CAN WILL TO Perfection BECAUSE Perfection exists.

    The “nature” of anti-white Supremacy IS THE CLAIM that white man CAN NOT WILL to Perfection because objective Supremacy is an irrationally evil delusion.

    This ^^^ is a self-evident falsehood of catastrophic effect. The catastrophe BEING THE FACT that the above is the majority belief of the white race through all IQ sets.

  75. By the way, I knew you first from OneStdv six or seven years ago, and I thought “critic” was the inspiration for your handle, with your past career.

    OneStdv is surely dead by now due to Taylor Swift overdose. There’s enough media coverage on her these days to support her own 24-hour TV channel.

    but i’ve sorta built a lot of brand into that avatar; it’s become a sorta symbol of half-breed semi-dissent in the alt-right sphere; WordPress itself apparently even thought so, and sought out my assessment….. it’s kind of funny how those things develop.

    So, this is what you were talking about when you were bragging to Elk that you must be the better writer because WordPress consulted you for your hallowed opinion?

  76. OneStdv was a bit of an enigma. He produced a full length and usually quite a good post daily. He became very popular (he had a talent for self promotion) and even Jared Taylor himself made an announcement about something thru his blog. He then closed his blog. I’m pretty sure he briefly commented on Chuck’s blog, based on my recognition of his writing style.

  77. Like all of us, he was very secretive about his identity, to the point of not disclosing his favorite football team. Looking back, most of what the bloggers and commenters in this sphere were writing back then seemed revolutionary for its time, but seems quite tame and common-sense to us now.

    There is a strange duality, in there being something like two Overton windows. One is the orthodox mainstream attitude by which it’s risky to tell your co-workers that you will vote for the Republican Party nominee this November. The other Overton window, one in which the Alt-Right operates, treats the repeal of Civil Rights acts, for example, or discusses the malign effect of Jews on society, condemns ‘sharking, or endorses the repatriation of immigrants and genocide trials for Western leaders, as common-sense givens.

  78. Another guy who had a good blog and then disappeared completely was Planet Grok – planetgrok.wordpress.com

    But then he just disappeared into thin air, also.

  79. Planet Grok was excellent. I asked Unamusement Park (who came on the scene a bit later and had similar style of wit) if that was him, but he told me that it wasn’t.

  80. he just disappeared into thin air

    Some bloggers probably get those twenty or so posts out, and then get bored and stop blogging. It’s understandable. I force myself to write minimum 2 posts per week. If I waited for inspiration to write a post, I’d probably do something like one every two months. Usually just spitting out a comment or two on another blog is enough to discharge those thoughts you feel pressed to communicate.

  81. I was a stranger to the blog thing until discovering something called Leveraged Sellout back in my school days. It was a ruthless satire of Wall Streeters, and convinced me to disobey my father and avoid the world of finance. I still find myself staying abreast on that subject – probably an inherited familial tendency. I know a lot of writers (authors/playwrights etc) and artists who write the category off as “just vanity.” I for one think it’s an interesting side amusement. You can manage to get a lot out of whatever you choose to in this life

  82. Looks like Unamusement Park is no longer putting up new posts?

    The only thing I could gather about OneSTDV is that he is a short, slight little guy. Other than that, I had no idea what region of the country he even claimed as his origin.

  83. My intro to blogging was in 2002 or so. I used to read NRO’s Corner mostly for Derb’s comments. He linked to Steve Sailer at one point. I also occasionally visite VDare, which I knew from random web surfing, along with a neo-nahzee blog or two also via random browsing.

    Started reading Sailer in ’02, who linked to Lawrence Auster and Two Blowhards. The latter linked to the brand new Heartiste blog in 2007, which I’d been reading since.

    Two great blogs that were my regular hangouts were also GLPiggy and the aforementioned OneSTDV, both now closed.

  84. Two Blowhards was a very big deal at its time, in being an arts/culture focused site, very urbane (its main contributor Michael Blowhard was part of NYC’s publishing glitterati). And it adopted paleoconservatism/nascent alt-right from that perspective. Michael and other regulars from the old 2BH are now blogging under Uncouth Reflections.

    Mencius Moldbug had spun off from Two Blowhards in 2007. He was a commenter there, whom others pressed to start his own site.

  85. FYI, I have filters set to mod two or more links per comment, so it’s best to break up multi-link comments into separate ones.

  86. My other formative alt-right reading c. 2003 was Jared Taylor’s AmRen. The race Red Pill was a bitter one to swallow and I limited my reading of it because it was depressing. I’ve never been a race equalist but AmRen is where I first became aware of the system’s anti-White nature.

    Kubler-Ross’s seven stages, which start with denial and depression, then anger, etc., is what most of us awakened people had to pass thru. When you’re no longer angry or otherwise clouded in your assessment of the world, you’re in K-R’s final stage, acceptance.

    Acceptance doesn’t mean resigned, it means that you understand what’s going on, you know what needs to be done, and you don’t have any chronic bad feelings about it — the 14 Words mission becomes an engineering problem to be worked out.

  87. Continuing with the subject of blogging… my all-time most popular post is last year’s “How to Help Prevent Mudsharking.” It gets a steady stream of visits daily. This morning alone it got 22 visits — a bit higher than normal but still pretty good for a very old post.

    More than half of my traffic is from the USA. Then it’s the Anglosphere countries, followed in strong numbers (in descending order) by Germany, Sweden, Brazil, Poland, Italy, Spain, and France. Then it’s the rest of Europe, and then the rest of the world. It’s pretty cool to get a day of strong traffic from a smaller country like Cyprus or Moldava. I also occasionally get traffic from Greenland — no idea if readers live there or if it’s WiFi from a passing ship or airplane.

    The countries from which I never got any pageviews include: several countries in equatorial Africa, Bolivia, Iran, and North Korea.

  88. I’ve noticed key players in the physics community have adopted the blog medium with some nice results. They’ll point to key papers and supplement their books with their less academically-salient (though quite interesting) whims and concerns. I used to ridiculously mull over whether this medium would unintentionally stamp out literature/books as such. I now think it only raises the bar for what’s published in the older format(s), which I still strongly prefer. It’s kind of like having a spotter in the weight room.

  89. On the subjects of blogs and weights/”cross-training”, no one has really nailed that niche sufficiently. The fitness suggestions themselves are as important as how things are articulated/presented

  90. @Cam,
    Could you post the link that show’s Jayman and his hands?

    RE: “So, this is what you were talking about when you were bragging to Elk that you must be the better writer because WordPress consulted you for your hallowed opinion? “

    No, not at all ——- and let me publicly dispel your notion here and now, so elk doesn’t come after me. 🙂

    EPG on blogs and their worth: “I know a lot of writers (authors/playwrights etc) and artists who write the category off as “just vanity.” I for one think it’s an interesting side amusement. “

    I agree. But specifically, for those who are actively professional writers of some sort, blogs provide an excellent creative brainstorming source ——- a place to lay out the rough arrangement and draft of your argument or idea, if not the place to feature the extraneous verbal trimming and other finer grammatical details. It’s really amazing to me, the concept of blog commentary providing aid, inspiration and often more to one’s other, usually more perfunctory and essential or even vocational writing duties. Truth is, at this point i can’t imagine doing entirely without ’em.

  91. Jayman’s been on a near decade crusade arguing against white man’s God-ordained free will. This should tell you something about his relationship with the McDonalds, Taylors and Sailers.

  92. And despite the theatrics surrounding each of them, I’m fairly confident that MacDonald, Taylor and Sailer are all believers in Jewish “supremacy.”

  93. Very few WNs have long careers. Public opinions changes at a glacial pace. It is hard to work and see no result.

    It is nice to see more support for the action people. WNs used to be such pacifists and had a child-like belief that voting would work. They now see that there is no hope of working within the system. If a NYC billionaire can’t speak up, the common man has no chance at all; Trump deserves credit for demonstrating that.

    WN only moves in one direction: more extreme. I hope one day, young WNs make me look moderate.

  94. — Public opinions changes at a glacial pace. (Ryu)

    There is a saying: things change very slowly and then all at once.

    — WN only moves in one direction: more extreme. I hope one day, young WNs make me look moderate.

    Especially when the system gives WN no incentives to meet halfway. WN must always keep an eye on the prize: 14W, or else it becomes the new beast.

  95. Ryu…

    That’s because wn is not a consistent manner of being and so one inevitably falls off into radical autonomy (read: goes invisible) OR ascends towards wS (where regenerate nationalism is a given). But because the latter route REQUIRES a fundamental reframe from liberal conception of “white supremacy” to an absolute conception of wS THEN one needs a certain metaphysical first principle to both START and possibly SUSTAIN in the being of wS. This metaphysical first principle is the belief in objective Supremacy, ie., Perfection, as “operating paradigm.” Its antithesis is belief in “universal equality” and the anti-racist… The anti-white Supremacist.

    MacDonald, Taylor and Sailer, just as the SJWs and Nazis before, are ALL anti-white Supremacy. Don’t let any of their debate fool you.

  96. wn is that pearly-opaque stream of water between the crystal blue unpredictability that is a vast ocean of wS and the efficiently blasted-out quarry courtesy of the imposition that is a white man’s angular Nazi mind. And yet, wn is no lazy river. One will be jettisoned towards one direction or the other and swimming is mandatory due the nature of the opposing waters..

  97. PA, I like your two Overton window theory. Makes me think that the more we uncover or, for lack of a better term, become aware, we find many windows stretching towards infinity.

    Reminds me of those mirrors that have a border of small lights and they reflect such that it seems as though the lights go on forever, that there is more than one border of lights.

    And maybe all of it, like the mirror, is just one giant mirror and all these windows are merely illusion.

  98. Mendo…

    The wS will have already concluded that Reality is real and where illusions truly exist such illusions are the hand of “man.” The REASON for this base assumption is that a life of illusion has no solution. It is like seven billion Jaymans DEMANDING he does all things unWILLingly… He proclaims and prognosticates… But NOT FREELY. Unwillingly, he IS FORCED externally towards anti-wS. That’s “living” “life” as an illusion. A self-annihilation is inevitable. And one has no free will to resist this inevitably.

    This ^^^ is very bad “metaphysics.” Ergo, this ^^^ is anti-metaphyics. This is FINALIZING a total annihilation and then making exceptional cover for one’s all-out radical autonomy. Jayman is highly intelligent in this regard. And so the illusions ARE ALL in his acolytes’ heads.

  99. Mendo (<–this is a memetic handle)…

    Jayman REINFORCES the Narrative which due its now widely openly sourced playing field NEEDS reinforcers.

    Understand that HBD = Have been duped… Into denying *my* God-ordained free will IN THE SERVICE OF all-out radical autonomy.

    Underneath all of this is high IQ "white" male attempting to escape accountability for the degeneracy THAT MUST BE at the hands of "our" most intelligent. Jayman facilitates this ILLUSION for the purpose of compounding the destruction and he plays right into the nerdy inclinations of the high IQ "white" anti-wS.

  100. HBD is a legitimate area of study as far as biological science goes. Politically, it’s nothing more than a means to the end of debunking the blood libel of White perfidy. Or should I say, it WAS a means to an end fifteen years ago when “gee, Africans are better sprinters on average and Eye Cue blah blah blah…” was a fresh way of saying “Fuck off, anti-Whites.”

    We are past that now because the narrative-keepers are (a) past trying to pretend that they’re dealing with us in good faith, (b) nobody believes them anymore, and (c) the time for persuadin’ is over.

  101. This is all good stuff. I’m reading this at work and it’s a nice break from the mundane nature of the job.

    I’m late to the party and all, but is Jayman in reference to a person or concept or theme? Forgive my ignorance on this, but it’ll help me absorb more of what’s going on.

    (Or is Jayman a play on the term “layman”?)

  102. I’m late to the party and all, but is Jayman in reference to a person or concept or theme? Forgive my ignorance on this, but it’ll help me absorb more of what’s going on.

    (Or is Jayman a play on the term “layman”?)

    Jayman is a black blogger of Jamaican extraction who “believes” in HBD and posts data-driven analysis on his site that acknowledges obvious, yet “taboo” factoids such as the short time horizons or low investment of time and effort into childrearing by blacks. Apparently, Thordaddy sees him as much more beyond that.

    https://jaymans.wordpress.com/

  103. ***…gee, Africans are better sprinters on average…***

    I excelled as a white sprinter until doing major damage to an ankle in a boating accident on my 21st birthday. Best thing that ever happened to me. The worthwhile stuff in life hovers above sport like birds soar across the grass. That said, it’s important to stay active in the way that suits you. Even as a sprinter I was always envious of swimmers (heavily white sport), which I never even tried to officially compete in. I recall that white sprinters are very often quicker for the first 30-50m before getting “sucked up” in track parlance. We’re deeply explosive, body & soul!

  104. The Two Overton Windows idea… probably more can be said about it. For example: an Evangelical White woman wrote an article celebrating her daughter marrying a Black fellow-Christian, and is attacked for it:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/11/god-called-my-bluff-a-christian-blogger-faces-fury-over-a-post-about-her-white-daughters-marriage-to-a-black-man/

    To be clear, the fury she faces is from Black readers.

    Aside: the bride’s father is deceased. Women are such fucking airheads. The bitches kill him the second time. They all need lifelong male guidance.

    Back to the subject: its fascinating how the orthodox liberal Overton Window is so damn tight, that the goofball evangelical mother of the bride is pilloried by the Coalition of the Fringes over her celebration of mixing.

    Meanwhile in our dissent Overton Window… imagine if I that mom’s detractors had read my “How to Help Prevent Mudsharking.” Somehow, I think they’d keep their mouths shut, having sensed that I have zero inclination to submit myself to their judgment.

  105. PA, the system both acknowledges the truth of HBD and denies it, depending on its motive at the time.

    If they want to solve a crime, they’ll acknowledge it.

    In forensics, there are new programs where the police can use a unknown suspect’s DNA to guess at his appearance – height, hair color, race. They use the codeword “ethnicity” rather than race.

    https://snapshot.parabon-nanolabs.com/examples

  106. Ryu… Yes… But as it pertains to the high IQ “white” male, HBD is a paralyzing “first principle” SIGNALING a total un-WILL-ingness in all “things” including “thyself.”

    What Jayman doesn’t say is that in his will to “see” HBD CANNOT BE a father of certain unwillingness.

  107. Black people get angry at white people who act like they are so wonderful because they have accepted a black family member. It is patronizing, I don’t really blame them.

  108. It is patronizing, I don’t really blame them.

    That’s often the case but there is another dynamic here in play. The bride’s mother admits her prejudice and writes with sincerity about how she accepts the pairing. I didn’t pick up on virtue signaling, just on her sad misunderstanding of her Christian faith. The black female attackers may have been in part angry about losing a fine Christian Black man to a white bitch.

    The other dynamic is the self-policing within the liberal coalition. Even though Evangelicals, being nominally ‘conservative’ and Republican voting, are not technically part of that coalition, it’s fair to see their more clueless white race-penitents as basement-tier members. As such (white, sad, and submissive) they don’t have the kind of status that for example Hillary Clinton would have in addressing a race issue.

    The SJW world is in large part feminine histeria, a law of the jungle where the blacker cats with bigger claws terrify the fat little piggies into knowing their place.

    I thank God that I that live in truth and I have nothing to do with the anti-racist cult.

  109. The black female attackers may have been in part angry about losing a fine Christian Black man.

    Well, it’s not as if black females really choose mates based on their character, virtue or religious piety, though. Even in black churches full of nominally “christian” black females they’re still never-married single mothers 80% of the time. Spreading their legs indiscriminately is pretty much the only way they can get a man for any length of time.

    So, for black females seeing any black man who is able to successfully pair outside of his race is another reminder that they’re at the bottom of the totem pole for desirability. They will couch it in “anti-racist” language online, such as “we’re so downtrodden, we can’t afford to lose our men” or “white women are lusty whores wrecking our community by pillaging our best men” and so on and so forth — but we all know the sad truth.

    Brothers will hold doors open and buy flowers and dinner for a white lady but not for them.

  110. “I thank God that I that live in truth and I have nothing to do with the anti-racist cult.”

    Ahh, the blessing of being born with divine wisdom! Must make life so easy that it’s actually boring at times, no? 🙂

  111. p.s.—— trust that, if so inclined ‘bro’ Denzel’ can have his pick of the blonde litter —— plus-sizers need not apply.

    The hot blonde need not apply, the Hollywood brothers and ballers would rather chase ugly Kardashians and pass them around like a platter.

  112. PA: ” knew you first from OneStdv six or seven years ago, and I thought “critic” was the inspiration for your handle, with your past career. “

    I’d love to get access to that comment archive at OneSTDV; specifically, there was a post that went into the alt-right’s familiar topic of pop music and how the Narrative always proclaims whites ‘stole’ black music, etc.; you were among the commenters but a more prolific one in that thread was a guy who was quite harsha nd bittter —– i always think it was the gl piggy commenter, Kyle —— but I can’t recall the avatar he used in the OneSTDV thread.

    Anyway, it was one of those rare occasions as a blog commenter in which i really feel i had all the cylanders firing, with pithiness and clarity to boot. I could be romanticizing the memory, but I felt i really tied together two relative personal strong points: racial strife descriptive and the ethnodemographics of pop music and culture….. In any case, I’d LOVE to get a look at that thread again, if only to see if my memory is critically objective or somewhat conceited. I recall you saying that you (PA) was confident that One commented at gl piggy under another handle; one semi-regular claimed that One was also the infamous RobertB, the Gatsby character of the alt-right who could be fairly hilarious at times.

    When OneSTDV went private I even sent my rote email request to be granted access, but to no avail.

  113. ***…the blonde litter…***

    My how we’ve evolved. I guarantee Andrew Jackson would not be the least bit attracted to Marilyn Monroe. ‘Hollywood Inc’/tech has wilted the cosmetic/surface aspirations of white women and shallowed the reaches of their souls

  114. Greece still turn them out alright. I slid into that damp, mother-of-pearl warren and may never look back

  115. Greek lovelies. The fun begins after 0:50. The girl in a loose white sweater and grey tights is how I imagine Penelope.

  116. k(yle) was on GLPiggy, I’ve also seen him on Foseti’s long-dormant blog. Great mind, would love to see him visit here. The comment about “angry and bitter” (and this is not about kyle, but a tangent) is something I never want to become and I don’t think I will, as that’s not my temperament.

    It’s important to hate with righteous fire and be angry with the evil. But you gotta love something too. It’s an occupational hazard for WNs to forget that second part. Love without hate is impotent, but hate without love is cannibalistic, it eats you down to nothing.

  117. You mean (K)yle? I don’t remember much about him?

    one semi-regular claimed that One was also the infamous RobertB, the Gatsby character of the alt-right who could be fairly hilarious at times.

    Whoa, whoa. Didn’t RobertB comment at OneSTDV? Are they accusing him of trolling his own site?

  118. I’d never believe that RobertB was 1stdv’s sockpuppet, if One was in fact the young naif he presented himself to be. Unless OneStdv was RoberB’s sockpuppet all along.

  119. The girl in a loose white sweater and grey tights is how I imagine Penelope.

    Allison Stokke is of Greek extraction. Before even finishing high school she was one of the most-depicted women on the Internet, for obvious reasons.

  120. That’s correct: (K)yle.

    A classic case of an alt-right blogger sockpuppeting on his own site (and ultimately outing himself as that character) was Ferdinand Bardamu who later came out as “his commenter” Matt Forney. I also suspected, without objective evidence, that the nasty Sri Lankan anti-White commenter Lucifer was also Ferd’s/Matt’s sockpuppet.

    PS: and then there was that blood curdling black nationalist Promoting Justice. Now that had to be a real person!

  121. There was a lovely Greek long jumper(?) four years ago who was DQ’d for supporting Golden Dawn, of which her boyfriend was a member.

  122. The post-Civil Rights modern phenomenon of Angry Black Female IS DUE the sheer naked radical sexual autonomy that is the “black” male collective. Where ONCE an aggressive miscegenation was the price of liberation from “white supremacy, modern “black” female recognizes the “fight” is no longer. The mixing is not revolutionary, but ordinary. The mixing is not imperial , but now serial. The mixing isn’t True, but guru. The mixing isn’t equality; it is radical sexual autonomy.

  123. Yeah, the hot Greek chick was Voula Papachristou. She competes in the next few days in Rio. During the West Nile scare she made a “controversial” joke that the mosquitos in Greece would get to eat “home food” due to all of the Nigerians there, lol.

  124. I also suspected, without objective evidence, that the nasty Sri Lankan anti-White commenter Lucifer was also Ferd’s/Matt’s sockpuppet.

    I always assumed all that had to do with the nameless, amorphous Chthulu beast, aka the dusky South Asian she-entity, aka the one who walks behind the rows. (of the alt-right)

  125. And I’ve always assumed that Chuck Ross would one day seek a higher-level journalism position but have to pay the PC price for having once run a blog that was overrun with bitter clinging old white racists — ya know, people like Peterike 🙂 🙂 lol

  126. “You mean (K)yle?”

    Yes, but I couldn’t remember exactly which consanant it was that he parenthesized.

    In any case, he was interesting, learned but quite harsh and unredemptive in his racial denouements.

    Yet he and I would have some interesting discussions, in which he remained civil and relevant and free of sabotaging invective.

    Yet another example of how white-western technology actually circumvented some of the discord and, ummm, ‘essentializing,’ that often takes place to advance racial polarity.

    None of which is to say that it ‘creates understanding,’ etc; in fact, such an apparatus facilitating detailed one-on-one could just as likely clarify how unbridgeable said racial divides are. But the point is the tech is able to clarify things, good or bad. And I’d argue that is ultimately a ‘greater good’ in terms of civilizations, clashes included, ‘moving forward.’

  127. “I’ve always assumed that Chuck Ross would one day seek a higher-level journalism position…”

    Y’know, i gotta say something re. this tendency to portray talented alt-right bloggers as persecuted soothsayers; there was precious nothing that Chuck Ross said that would float over the heads of big-circulation metro reporters at the country’s main dailes. Please trust those reporters are not the meta-keepers of the The Narrative —– that is prescribed by the myriad social and economic forces that comprise the international status quo—– and in fact said big-city scribes are actually the ones most in tune with institutional forces and sways.

    I recall Chuck, upon his venturing to cover the Trayvon Martin case, actually being genuinely surprised by the rote cynicism he encountered by the reporters dispatched to cover the trial.

    He shouldn’t have been, as that was merely biz-as-usual. The evil liberal cabal is not carried out by the guys with trench coats, fedoras and reporter’s notebooks in hand.

  128. ***Please trust those reporters are not the meta-keepers of the The Narrative,,,***

    True, by and large. A lot of those “daily-type” reporters are real hustlers (in a good sense) – often simply lacking a deeper classical perspective when it comes to history and the state. I’ve met reporters that immediately earned my respect for their willing lack of sleep and effortless ability to imbue any trifle with seeming significance. In fact, their being written off is PART of the narrative of deepening degeneracy. The public is getting fucked like a cheap French whore by the throbbing abyss of journalism without actual journalists that stay on the grind

  129. Y’know, i gotta say something re. this tendency to portray talented alt-right bloggers as persecuted soothsayers; there was precious nothing that Chuck Ross said that would float over the heads of big-circulation metro reporters at the country’s main dailes.

    yeah, I hear ya. You would know about that part better than me. Against my better judgment, I’ll even take your word for it that even some MSNBC types (like your doppleganger Toure) are realists off the camera and aren’t completely “un-nuanced” about the blank slater screeds that they spout.

    But I’m talking about just the content of the commenters at his site. Didn’t Paula Dean get blackballed from her profession just because she allegedly said the N-Word 25 years prior? And that “racist” utterance wasn’t even in writing or saved on the Interwebs, so it was merely hearsay.

    One day they can throw it in Chuck’s face that he ran a blog where he didn’t take all of his “racist” commenters to task (or ban them) for their vehemently non-PC posts. Hell, Trump did nothing but use a red 5-point star on an image and he got pilloried as the new 21st century Goebbels reincarnate.

  130. I see that nut whorefinder and the substance abuser Pat Hannagan still posting on Sailer’s site on a regular basis. But I wonder what happened to Obsidian’s black ass. Maybe there was a 1000-year alignment of stars as Virgo passed across Venus in retrograde and the “astrology professor” got taken back to his mother ship…

  131. ***…and the “astrology professor” got taken back to his mother ship…***

    Not familiar with all these blogs and such, but that’s funny as hell. The few black friendships I’ve maintained over the years are with the “deep brothers” with heavy leanings toward astrology. As an Aquarius, I have a right to reject the whole gamut as nonsense.

  132. “yeah, I hear ya. You would know about that part better than me. Against my better judgment, I’ll even take your word for it that even some MSNBC types (like your doppleganger Toure) are realists off the camera and aren’t completely “un-nuanced” about the blank slater screeds that they spout.”

    No, I hear YOU. The rules and punishment for veering off The Narrative are extreme and intact. I’m just saying that it’s not the daily grinders who’re enforcing the punitive status quo; that and those are complicated economic/political/etc. forces….. Beat writers feel and fear those forces as much as you and I. I’m saying much of what you already know: it’s a force that is darker and more mysterious but omnipresent —– not just some middling scribe groupthink.

    So, yeah, to you and to EPG’s remark; just be ever-mindful that The Narrative isn’t something that any one rank-n-file reporter, national or not, can conquer……. And to be clear: I know you know as much in the long haul and, personally, I myself was outside of said pressure to some degree, as ‘feature and entertainment writers’ weren’t as subjected to The Force as were said others. (though the commissioned mag work did bring on such pressures, though not as purely as for daily beat rag writers, etc.).

    it’s like our past back-n-forth re. the Toure types; all this stuff is acknowledged and discussed —– but that doesn’t mean you and you alone can transcend it. We’re all to some extent captive to the mass media corporateology. I mean, do you all get to act out your pure convictions freely every day from nine-to-five?

  133. “a blog that was overrun with bitter clinging old white racists — ya know, people like Peterike:-):-) lol”

    Old, white and bitter maybe, but not clinging!

  134. I’m still waiting to hear news of Hugo Schwyzer’s suicide any day now. Wasn’t it Chuck that actually had some banter going back-for-forth with Schwyzer before his fall?

    Apparently he got a felony DUI sometime after his mega-meltdown and withdrawal from public life. Maybe he’s off “getting pegged” or blowing James Deen somewhere.

  135. Paula Dean got blackballed for apologizing. I doubt that Chuck’s now-deleted blog is of any consequence to him. Two Overton windows: one for those who want the acceptance of the (increasingly irrelevant) in-group, and one for those who don’t care who they offend. Seriously — I write frank content in mild language here, and most of y’all do too in the comments. If I ran for office, say, and this blog came to light, I can see a scenario in which I would say “Yeah, I wrote some good posts; check them out please, hope you like them. Next question?”

    If my political campaign had any sort of traction on its own merit, none of what I wrote here or in the past would affect the turnout of my voters. BUT — if I disavowed every single anti-mudsharking post I wrote here and apologized for letting that scary gun-nut Camlost imply that Venus and Serena are slightly less alluring than Sharapova…. my campaign would be destroyed.

    A lot of this ties in to “SJWs Always Lie,” which I recommend you read.

  136. “Frankly, despite my horror of the press, I’d love to rise from the grave every ten years or so and go buy a few newspapers.” –Luis Bunuel

  137. I only visited OneSTDV a handful of times before it shuttered. At the time, I found the viewpoints there a bit too extreme for my budding Alt-Right sensibilities. Before discovering Roissy/Roosh/Sailer et al. in 2011 I spend most of my online time on blogs/forums related to music and classic menswear. I was also a member of Jim Goad’s private Facebook group, which acted as its own Alt-Right forum.

    GLP was a personal favorite. I read every post and comment, and became familiar enough with them that I made an (correct) educated guess as to the identity of Promoting Justice. I still feel bad for poor Clarence from Baltimore…

    When the Zimmerman verdict was handed down I was sitting in a well-known craft beer bar in the Lower Haight neighborhood of SF. Everyone in there was outraged. Everyone, that is, but me. Only a year or two before I probably would have been outraged alongside them.

    Camlost: If you google Mumia Ali you’ll find some results for good old Obsidian.

  138. Anyone who is interested in this oft-mentioned Chuck: he started out as a college-aged commenter at Heartiste, then started a blog that became very popular, where Camlost, Nikcrit, Peterike and others and I hang out five years ago. He did his own investigative journalism while working as a waiter in a small prairie-state city. His investigative blogging culminated with a self- and reader-financed trip to Florida to cover the Zimmerman trial, which he wrote about and following which he broke into professional journalism. He’s a stand-up guy with a hard-headed, independent judgment.

  139. I still feel bad for poor Clarence from Baltimore

    😀

    [in Promoting Justice voice]: “good white boy clarence you show racists you know your place you know Our Mercy”

  140. OneSTDV and Chuck Ross were two above-average IQ “white” male liberationists who subconsciously recognized the truth of wS AND their subsequent unwillingness to meet this standard while, simultaneously, consciously grasping at the self-annihilation that is liberal ideology and wanting to turn away and roll it back. And so HBD for a time 6-7 years ago represented for OneSTDV and Chuck Ross that illusionary oasis of clearly evident realities that nonetheless momentarily suspends one’s mindful faculties to the absolute dynamism that is a spirited will. HBD, at the end of the day, can neither speak the language of white Supremacy nor supply the solutions to utter evil. Both OneSTDV and Chuck Ross seem to have chosen radical autonomy… OneSTDV going completely invisible and Chuck Ross becoming an all-together different writer and messenger having accumulated a whole different audience.

  141. If you say man has no (God-ordained) free will then you say Jayman UNWILLINGLY “writes.” You say Jayman IS FORCED to “write.” And one is not EVEN REQUIRED to get to the “truth” or “falseness” of what is written as the only relevant issue is that such “truths” and “falsehoods” ARE ONLY AND ALWAYS put forward un-WILL-ingly and BY AN EXTERNAL FORCE…

    So the best Jayman can cop to is his unwillingness to put forward falsehoods ALTHOUGH he could just as easily “be” unwillingly putting forward truths. So he CANNOT tell lies and MUST tell truths? That’s smells like radical autonomy.

  142. There is only one drama to remember from GLP that is relevant to today and this is Nikcrit’s absolute refusal to get any closer to an absolute conception of wS. Furthermore, this drama spawns another tangent that is his refusal to distance himself from the stunted liberal conception of “white supremacy” that is his PRIMARY brainwashing from childhood UNTIL NOW. Together, these personal perversions represent a denial of enduring radical autonomy spanning 5-6 years.

  143. If you google Mumia Ali you’ll find some results for good old Obsidian.

    Ahhh, thanks so much. Since we last saw Obsidian it looks like he’s gone full MRA and also gone a little full-figured, too.

    When the Zimmerman verdict was handed down I was sitting in a well-known craft beer bar in the Lower Haight neighborhood of SF. Everyone in there was outraged.

    Typical liberal behavior for them to pat themselves on the back and feel pious and self-righteous because they’re on the “anti-racist” side of the issue… but hilarious since San Francisco is one of the most highly segregated cities around, and with the poorest blacks and the highest percentages of white children who attend private school than anywhere else in the USA. Blacks in my Florida-bordering “racist” state are doing 10,000 times better than in liberal San Fran, by any measure.

    That’s the good thing about living in the Deep South – only a tiny sliver of whites are sympathetic to the SJW dogma and they’re usually easy to identify since they’re generally public sector employees or those few whites who live in what we call “intown” – i.e. they’re the childless SWPL’s who live in Atlanta’s urban core.

  144. ***…Atlanta’s urban core.***

    Have set up shop briefly in both ATL and San Fran. They share a proclivity for gays, SWPL “chain” coffee shops, and ubiquitous hidden Asian diners.

    The Deep South really needs some new or well-refurbished spots. Even New Orleans is starting to tempt me.

  145. “They share a proclivity for…..ubiquitous hidden Asian diners.”

    Really? I wouldn’t have expected as much in Atlanta (oddly enough, i’ve never been there, save a few layovers at the airport and one time driving from the airport in Atlanta to Stone Mountain, the infamous host to several highly mediated racial incidents, i seem to recall.

    What I love about those Asian hovels in NY, LA, CHI and SF is that you can find places run so FOB, and htere’s so much competition, that if you’re willing to forego decor and other bougeouis trappings, you can get good, possibly even more ‘authentic’ cuisine for barely more than fast-food pricing. I had a few such hideouts in L.A.’s ‘Chinatown’ off the downtown corridors; there’s also quite a few such places in Chicago, but such places are not too available in Milwaukee and the Twin Cities……. btw, i recall going to D.C.’s Asian-restaurant district; it was just a few blocks from the conference centers across from the Renaissance hotel; that sound right, PA?

  146. Yes. DC’s Chinatown is a few blocks south. It’s small, centered on the H and 7th NW Street intersection for a block each way. Since the Verizon Center was built, it’s gotten a huge influx of upscale businesses, not necessarily Chinese themed. There is a handful of hole in the wall Chinese shops there still, and one elegant Chinese restaurant that is very good.

  147. ***…willing to forego decor and other bougeouis trappings, you can get good, possibly even more ‘authentic’ cuisine for barely more than fast-food pricing…***

    I wasn’t complaining necessarily. They generally tend to keep to themselves when they’re not captaining their fish markets/pho hideouts. I’ve found some incredible ‘all you can drink’ kind of deals at those type of locales – particularly in NY. Can’t stand L.A. though

  148. “I see that nut whorefinder and the substance abuser Pat Hannagan still posting on Sailer’s site on a regular basis.”

    Yeah, some of those guys seems sorta blind to glaring ironies: I recall Whorefinder turning into “Uncle Whorefinder,’ in this blog’s mudsharking posts; he would go into these long, earnest rants about how he subtly coaxed and tutored his niece or whatever relative away from any NAM

  149. “That’s the good thing about living in the Deep South”

    I’m far from expert on southern colloquollisms but i wouldn’t consider Atlanta to be in the ‘Deep South.’; i’d figure cities like Biloxi, Tupelo and Birmingham fit more that bill.

    aren’t ‘colored restroom’ signs required for a city to be officially in the ‘deep south?’ lol…

  150. “Colored restrooms”

    I once traveled for work to a little town in SW Georgia. Sitting in my rental car at its sole traffic light, I observed three Dindus start to cross the street in front of me just as the light was turning green for me. To my complete surprise when they realized this, they wave me “sorry” and ran rather than passive aggressively foot-shuffling to the other side.

  151. >i>”Can’t stand L.A. though”

    I’m with you on that. But that was my locale for about five-to-eight weeks for ten years plus…. started out loving the place, but quickly grew to loathe……. but: you can find pleasant sanctuaries in that shithole: culturally, we’d hang in Los Feliz (before IT became the new hipster zip code) and in terms of geography and overall outdoor environment, the Pasadena-San Gabriel area on the eastern fringe of LA county is a real treat; i recall doing a freelance peice on the Huntington preserve and rare book library in San Gabriel; the rare book collection includes an early draft of Hamlet! The preserve is otherworldly; they must have every species of every form of plant and flower that exists…. the vibe is more wooded and heartland-ish than the usual palm tree and flat plain that’s more typical of L.A.

  152. ***…rare book library in San Gabriel;***

    I’ll check that out next time I’m thereabouts. I’ve got an uncle who recently ditched his third wife for this blonde around my age in L.A. I must say I’m proud of him. He tells me the sweet spots of that city are mighty high livin’. Still would never live there myself. Big Sur kind of retreats are more my thing

  153. I’m far from expert on southern colloquollisms but i wouldn’t consider Atlanta to be in the ‘Deep South.’; i’d figure cities like Biloxi, Tupelo and Birmingham fit more that bill.

    Properly speaking, you are correct. But Atlanta is around the same latitude as both Birmingham and Tupelo, even though we are near the Appalachian foothills.

    Yes. DC’s Chinatown is a few blocks south. It’s small, centered on the H and 7th NW Street intersection for a block each way.

    Atlanta doesn’t have a “Chinatown” so to speak. But it does have a heavily Asian area (the Buford Highway corridor) which is, in typical Atlanta fashion, a long and completely unwalkable, low-density suburban gauntlet of shopping centers that stretches for around 20 miles of Pho, Thai and Dim Sum restaurants, dry cleaners and massage parlors. The SWPL’s love it.

    Personally, I’m not that big on Pho. I prefer Thai or Chinese. There’s a new Korean BBQ with all-you-can eat steak that I’m going to try.

    I once traveled for work to a little town in SW Georgia. Sitting in my rental car at its sole traffic light, I observed three Dindus start to cross the street in front of me just as the light was turning green for me.

    My dad tells me that as late as the mid-70’s there was a town near my birthplace in Eastern NC that still had large signs that openly said “N***er, don’t let the sun set on your heels!!” – meaning that it’s ok to shop and do your business during daylight hours but after that be gone.

  154. Why do you like Piggy so much, PA?

    He’s a narc who supports the Americans. He also has a negro relative, which vastly moderates his WN. He reminds me of an antifa in his writing and in his tone.

    He doesn’t support those who directly fight back against the system. He has abandoned great white heros like Anders and Dylan Roof. He is a conservative capitalist who is making the $$$ selling WN-lite, just like Ferdie. WN is not a joke or a hustle. It’s about survival.

    He once challenged me to go out and beat up a nigger. I said that if I did, he’d just rat to the police in about 10 seconds. He is one “WN” who I know is weak and moderate, and hed crack if he was put under any pressure.

  155. WN is not a joke or a hustle. It’s about survival

    Truer words were never spoken.

    Nobody knows how an internet personality would act when push came to shove. All you have is what you know plus your gut feeling, and I trust mine. Nobody is perfect.

  156. No, we can tell ahead of time PA.

    Maybe meeting one person we don’t see it. Maybe not 10. But 1000? 10,000? Patterns emerge. Any WN who has been around for 6+ years can develop the skill.

    Ferd is the perfect example. Real WNs knew about the antifas for decades. He’s out there on the street now, being “shocked” that they threaten him with violence. He got chased around at the DNC by one of them. It is in this story, or the one after.
    http://mattforney.com/coverage-democratic-national-convention/

    Same with Roosh. Any WN protest in this “free” country is attacked. He thought he’d get off scot-free because he’s a MRMer. Nope. He finally figures out some things we’ve done for 20 years.

    Look at this shit, PA. This is your Ferd. Now you know.

  157. Camlost…

    Radical autonomy is when you confess to possessing no free will, but you still free willingly confess to possessing no free will. Got that?

  158. Some of “us” peeked Forney for the fraud he was before he ever showed his face to firmly confirm his fraudulence.

  159. On the other hand, Forney is a (c)apitalist hustler and Internet entrepreneur with real effect and such can be lauded to a certain extent.

  160. Very few white males are destined for wS. Such truth is justly submissive to our material reality.

    And neither Forney nor Ross WERE destined for wS.

    ONE with sharp perception CAN SEE THIS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

    And so there is reason why “they” tell “us” not to judge the book by its cover.

    Five or six years ago, I said the same exact thing to any and all white males reading.

    Radical autonomy…

    Or white Supremacy?

    Nothing has changed and this truth has only become ever more evident.

    But…

    You can almost always SEE the potential wS.

    So the zeitgeist attempts to make you blind.

    So blind that glimpsing Matt Forney’s and Chuck Ross’ face DOES NOT have you see the “white” anti-wS.

    So in this two Internet alt-riters, “we” can neither see the potential for wS nor can “we” identify a “white” anti-wS.

    So what do “we” see in these two, in particular?

    I say nothing other than radical autonomy.

    No rhyme nor reason.
    There is all self-pleasin’.

  161. Forney could be best described in his “In Mala Fide” days as a “white” anti-Alpha attempting to best his betters by bringing to life all the known negative stereotypes of said Alphas. That he used the Internet and his obvious material skills to take the virtual sickle across the collective neck of American Alpha AS HIS ROGUE ATTEMPT for Alpha dominance only adds to the overall mistrust he has garnered amongst those who actually know better.

    He failed to maintain the front. Now he works extra hard to make amends even if he never admits to it.

  162. Ryu…

    You now have to convince me that Breivik and Roof were not just false flags? Convince me that these events are not just profiling mechanisms used to digitally spot and then lure out “lone wolves” and any other threats to the Liberated State?

  163. ***…mechanisms used to digitally spot and then lure out “lone wolves” and any other threats to the Liberated State?***

    I’m telling you, Huxley was more a traditional, hard-line humanist — but he hit BULLS-EYE on our present situation.

  164. EPG…

    If you recognize “liberation” as the homo-sexual “nature,” a self-annihilating “nature” rooted in desire for radical sexual autonomy, then you can take the potency of Liberal ideology from the equation, subtract America’s special place in “selling” this liberal ideology abroad AND bring light to a last hold-out minority of white Americans WHO REJECT radical sexual autonomy in the name of Perfection.

  165. Modern “white” man has no greater insight into degeneracy than his fathers, in fact, his personal pathology is having no sight of Degeneracy at all.

  166. If you’re smart then you don’t want God-ordained free will so as to be accountable for your intelligence. That’s radical intellectual autonomy.

  167. t-daddy, I like your instincts. Your referential enigmas are fortresses of titanium/alloy steel; your insistence in phraseology – white-cast iron.

  168. There is such thing as a real false flag, TD. But Anders Brevik and Dylan Roof were real white men acting on their own. They saw what was happening and they knew what needed to be done….even if most of their fellow whites abandoned them.

    (And I’d note that all those WNs who disapprove of Anders don’t say a thing about the 3 million dead Muzz caused by Murka’s War on Terror – and counting. If WNs really are so moral, why don’t they question the US police and military?)

    Ander’s father said he wishes his son was dead. Roof was just attacked in prison by a coon.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dylann-roof-assaulted-inmate-charleston-jail-article-1.2738424

  169. Brevik carried out a successful guerilla operation against enemy cadre training camp. It was a standard, albeit well planned and extremely successful, insurgency action. At one point he spared a young man’s life, telling him that he has a nationalist’s face. One of the people he killed was a Kurd immigrant female who had stated that her goal is to end Norway’s identity as a blue eyed blond country.

    I went thru Oslo back from my recent trip to Poland. I wonder what the Norwegian customs officials would have done had I worn a Che-style Brevik tshirt.

    Roof attacked non-combatant civilians.

  170. @Camlost,

    y’know, the circumstance your link describes, the link about Kaine? That shit happens in IRL; even though the NAM in question was a buppie and not a rent risk in the ways black aggregate renters may be, she still went through b.s.; I’ve been in that situation, as I have been in DWB scenarios simply because i fit a suspect description.

    Point being, it’s not wrong to be bothered or rattled by the incident; it’s how you react. Or rather how one POLITICIZES their understandable indignation after such an incident that is worthy of criticism.

    I mean, not all of us racial traitors have attained such a deep level of racial imposture, like you! 🙂

  171. What’s that nationalist face thing, PA? That I had not heard of. I want to hear what became of that kid.

    America has demonstrated that there are no non-combat civilians – not one. The Americans dropped bombs on the civilians of Dresden, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. We have killed 20 million since WW2, most civilians. There have been virtually no murder charges filed.
    https://www.sott.net/article/273517-Study-US-regime-has-killed-20-30-million-people-since-World-War-Two

    It must be noted that virtually all blacks alive today support the American regime which is quite anti-white. This puts them in the same category as a German taxpayer during WW2 or a Vietnamese civilian during Nam. They are supporting the slow genocide of the white race, the same crime they accuse German citizens of ignoring during the holycost.

    Further, blacks target white civilians everyday. Think of the South African farm murders. We have our own equivalents in America, like the Channon Christian and Chris Newsom murder.

  172. Ryu, the kid with the nationalist face, I read that a long time ago and Heartiste linked to the original artice. You can find it with right keyword searces.

    As to Roof: I understand the murders of innocent Whites. Those guilty individual niggers are animals — literally, they are not human. Their prefrontal lobes aren’t developed to the capacity of a human being as we understand humanity. They should have never had the political equality and access to disarmed Whites. The first instance of such as savagery ought to have been punished so spectacularly, that it would have sent a deterrent message to others.  They, and those who circle wagons around them, normally find themselves eradicated, as far as historic patterns go. All that protects them today is the stretched-thin, socipoathically immoral USG.

    But Roof didn’t kill those kinds of blacks. He killed old church ladies who were friendly to him. We can’t lose our humanity if we still have other options. Roof had other options in terms of target selection. It was morally wrong and God most certainly condemns the act. But I have finite capacity for outrage over interracial crime and all of it is spent on the murders of innocent Whites.

    All that said, this next thing I say will sound amoral but it is not an endorsement, it’s a description of a sociological fact: a beaten-down nation recognizes any display of push-back as Signs of Life.

    Now as to Roof himself, this is what I want for him. One, to seek God’s forgiveness for what he did. Two, to align himself with inmates who would give him racial solidarity and protection from black inmates. And three, to read and study and become a better WN.

  173. Dylan Roof should have shot a bunch of street thugs, not church ladies. Not only is he wrong, he is stupid.

  174. The totality of the media and colllective “black” reaction to the Roof homicides is so out of the ordinary and so detached from the magnitude of the “crime” as to suggest an aberration of reality something akin to the déjà vu glitch in the Matrix. A real deconstruction of the homicidal event CANNOT SETTLE the origin and nature of the Roof phenomenon nor the reaction of its most primary “black” “victims.”

  175. Ryu, I hate to break this to you but in the real world there’s no regime that has clean hands. Anything that is organized and established and can be called a “nation” costed lives and bloodshed. Maybe you need to retire to a Buddhist Monastery or something if you cannot see the difference between the violence perpetrated at Hiroshima or Dresden or Fallujah or Ferguson or the Golan Heights or the World Trade Center.

    And if you fee that strongly about Dylan Roof’s martyrdom then what are you doing still here wasting time talking to us instead of unloading a clip somewhere? Either way, silly crimes of incompetence aren’t going to motivate any appreciable percentage of whites to lend an ear to your cause, plain and simple.

    I mean, not all of us racial traitors have attained such a deep level of racial imposture, like you!

    LMAO. Still jelly, I see!! Envy leads to anger and anger leads to hate, Padawan.

  176. There is such thing as a real false flag

    The WTC were demolished and Osama was not responsible for doing that. So that is a false flag.

    *****************

    The following link includes pictures of Breivik’s victims,

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/8662030/Norway-shooting-victims-the-77-dead-in-pictures.html

    They are mostly whites around 17 and 18 years old and some outlier older adults. About 90 per cent white.

    **************

    Dylann Roof is spelled with two ens.

    That was a deranged kid who was on psych meds, which i don’t know if they were prescribed or not.

    He killed what, nine adults?

    Here is a current story about a nice old white lady in Chicago, who was beat half to death and then set on fire and suffered third degree burns to her head, by black youths, one of whom had possibly been hired to help with her yard work,

    http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/188775650-story

  177. “Dylan Roof should have shot a bunch of street thugs, not church ladies.”

    No, he should have shot up a New York Times editorial board meeting, a Goldman Sachs executive retreat or a bunch of Hollywood producers. Know your real enemy.

  178. Having grown up only about 200 miles from where Dylann Roof place of birth, I can tell you that he probably never attended a school that was less than 50% black. Whites recently became a minority in NC public schools, SC has been that way for at least 10 years, I think. And the few schools in the Carolinas that are overwhelmingly white are in the uplands (called “upstate” in South Carolina) or in the Mountains of NC (West of Charlotte and I-77).

    By all accounts, Roof had tons of black friends who never suspected him of any WN leanings, and that does not surprise me at all. Looking at his Facebook he had several hundred+ black friend connections. Rural SC is a pretty dreary place to be for those of less motivation and less motivation, the unskilled jobs are hard to come by and it appears that Roof already had drug problems before finishing high school. And SC has had the highest unemployment % in the nation for the last few years, partly because of losses in construction, textiles and manufacturing and partly because it’s 28% black.

    I don’t consider his story to be heroic or a failure, his act was just a simple case of backlash in our current climate.

  179. The sheer predictability of Roof’s action just must speak to the near speechlessness of the media and “black” collective in reaction to this homicide EVEN AT THIS date. It is INEXPLICABLE.

  180. Now the retort…

    No… This event was not utterly predictable at all… And so the “unspeakability” of the homicide just must speak to the near speechlessness of the media and radical “black” collective over the “black” church lady killings by a “white racist,” ie., “white supremacist.”

  181. No, he should have shot up a New York Times editorial board meeting, a Goldman Sachs executive retreat or a bunch of Hollywood producers.

    You gotta remember where Roof came from, though – such a thing would never enter his mindi in that world. If you asked him what Bloomberg, Soros, Spielberg and Bernie Sanders have in common he would not know. Any conservative (Baptist) churches he attended probably also taught that it would be sinful for an American Christian to fail to support Israel.

  182. I cannot believe the moral calculus re. Moon’s despicable act here invariably includes racial tit-for-tat figuring. Talk about losing one’s humanity.

    I gotta ask the stereotypical question to our blog host—– and I apologize for the innate cloying aspect to the following, but it’s simply begged in this circumstance: How would you feel and thus speculate on Brevik and his future place in the WN canon if your boys were among his ‘greater good’ sacrifices?

    JFC!! This is the part of the blog world’s pseudonymous bluster that really galls me.

  183. Brevik’s victims were late-teen children of Norway’s Social-Democratic party and members of its Youth League. That is a communist party that is openly dedicated to the destruction of Norway. The Utoya camp was holding training and indoctrination activities. Blame their traitor scum parents. Brevik considered them enemy combatants. And he was right. I agree with Vox Day, who noted that in x number of years Norway will either have a mosque or a statue of Brevik in every town and village.

  184. This is the part of the blog world’s pseudonymous bluster that really galls me.

    Ok, you didn’t say anything that conflicts with your principles here. Go ahead, tell us your name.

  185. “LMAO. Still jelly, I see!! Envy leads to anger and anger leads to hate, Padawan

    Lol…You’ve implied as much several times now with me in some earlier back-n-forths; I’ve replied with a mix of both candor and jest, but the truth is, while i’ve had racial ambiguity during me teen and early 20s formative years, I’ve confessed a dread of the ‘grey baby,’ biracial most of the time, a gratitude for being ‘mixed’ but not totally ambiguous re. one’s ethnic heritage, a la the guy from New Yorker whose name escapes me this instant.

    As for ‘passing’ mulattos, I think of this woman, whose book I read and recommended here in earlier posts:

    http://danzysenna.com/Biography.html

    But if I were her racial lineage and iconography, I’m compelled to feel that i would be somewhat more…… anonymous, or even a racial ‘impostor,’ as many would reasonably assume I was some sort of southeastern European ‘white,’ which would be untrue and untied to the likely racial interplay I (and she) was likely used to growing up ‘mixed’ in ‘Merica.

    I don’t know; I guess I feel my exterior look and iconoagrophy jibes with me ‘real’ mixture, which I’m guessing leads to a lesser degree of identity cog-dis..

    But then how could I really know, because one can only feel what one has innately experienced from the ground up, Day One.

    I also think ‘her’ particular imposture issue (similar to what i’m guessing yours would be) is different than more obvious hybrids, like me.

    So, you tell me, yellow-cored Southern Man! Imagine this: you start dating some southern WASP white women, who’s unaware of your situation —— and then one day she goes into an unexpected diatribe about how she hates chinks? would that cause cog-dis? Or would the simple fact that you ‘pass’ with ease alleviate anything like that?

    It’s the Anatole Broyard dynamic and odyssesy; the former book critic from the nytimes who passed and concealed his creole, New Orleans heritage for decades. A classic New Yorker profile, by none other than one Henry Louis Gates, titled “White Like Me”:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1996/06/17/white-like-me

  186. then one day she goes into an unexpected diatribe about how she hates chinks?

    Then he’ll say that she’s a keeper. Japs hate chinks too!

  187. “Japs hate chinks too!”

    Hahaha. Ok. I unintentionally displayed my upper-midwestern ignorance on the Asian subsets; forgive me, Asians are under 2% of my day-to-day social environment.

    But I think you get my point and intention nonetheless; i.e., i really want you, camlost, to answer that question seriously. (mainlyHmong kids in my district)

  188. i really want you, camlost, to answer that question seriously

    And I want you to answer my question seriously. What’s your name? Come on, you’ve denounced Brevik, what have you to fear?

  189. I’m not accusing commenters of cowardice. I’m saying it’s just a little crazy to get into all this homicidal fantasy under the guise of a pseudonym. I respect, those rights to remain anonymous. It’s just one thing it’s so amped up and militant that it seems a little back to me. As far as myself goes Kama I think I’ve been the most self-disclosing, you’re here, probably for the very reason you cite, that I’m relatively non-controversial in terms of the PC zeitgeist. None the less Kama I think I’ve shown pretty much empathy for those under the gun from the PC Inquisition

  190. p.s.—- my apologies for the typos: smart phone limitations coupled with the effects of a function’s open bar that was too generously indulged……. not even sure what the voice-reco interpreted as ‘kama’ is supposed to mean.

    In general, I guess i’m saying that I’m just not that aggrieved, to casually justify homicidal mayhem of Breivak’s level. I just ask: however politically dire the white euro circumstance is, can it justify that much single-act of ‘self-annihilation?’ Is it really cloying and beside-the-point to focus on the sheer destruction and misery invoked by his single, reckless deed? FWIW, I sympathized with Breivak’s father in that vid that Ryu posted.

  191. “Homicidal fantasy?”

    I do not think you realize what you are saying, Nikcrit?

    The fantasizers of homicide are the liberated “white” self-annihilators themselves.

    The reaction of the Norwegian liberals to Breivik was a literal slap on his wrist and evidence of those desiring mass homicide.

    The reaction of the radical “black” collective to the killing of a handful of old “black” church ladies was near total SILENCE and evidence of desire for mass homicide.

    And the reaction of the liberated media to a “white supremacist” killer of religiously pious “black” women was near total SILENCE and evidence of a desire for mass homicide.

    HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS in the context of those debating the rightness or wrongness of Breivik’s and Roof’s actions?

    No real liberated outrage equals no real crime, eh?

  192. “But Roof didn’t kill those kinds of blacks. He killed old church ladies who were friendly to him. We can’t lose our humanity if we still have other options. Roof had other options in terms of target selection. It was morally wrong and God most certainly condemns the act. But I have finite capacity for outrage over interracial crime and all of it is spent on the murders of innocent Whites.”

    I find this paragraph of yours somewhat redemptive. Still, it’s worth noting that the conciliation rendered above is LESS than what the organized, press-prepared public response was from the black-church community to Roof and their message of forgiveness and call for peace in place of avengement. Where’s the ‘tit-for-tat’ there, I ask?

  193. Nikcrit…

    When you recognize Breivik and Roof as a pair of the “white” Liberated’s very own spawn then you will grasp at an even more particular act of self-annihilation and then “see” how by carrying forth the boogey man of “white supremacy,” you actively facilitate “white” self-annihilation.

  194. Roof killed the kinds of “blacks” who profess that the nigger was really “the goodest child I knows.”

  195. Roof killed the kind of “blacks” who claimed my great-great grandfather raped their grandmothers with racial animus.

  196. How does one explain the sheer contrast between the blacked out media reaction to Roof’s homicidal act and the utterly blackened media reaction to the homicides of Trayvon and Brown?

    Desirous of annihilation.

  197. There is also an argument that Roof killed the most diabolical kind of “blacks.” The kind who look like little old religious Christian ladies AND YET carry on a racial war of anti-white Supremacy WITH ABSOLUTE impunity.

  198. “How does one explain the sheer contrast between the blacked out media reaction to Roof’s homicidal act and the utterly blackened media reaction to the homicides of Trayvon and Brown?”

    Hmmmm. I think I actually comprehend your point here: you’re saying that the murder of the unquestionably scrupulous black-church folk was relatively unenraging in terms of mediated black reaction, while the killing of more dubious black tropes, a la Martin and Brown, incited more politicized and posture-filled response?

    That seems true and is an interesting observation; yet ‘why’ is not clear-cut and I would guess to be multi-sourced: msm-meme prompted? these figurative ‘Stagger Lee” blacks being killed in our ‘here and now’ is naturally more complicated a response than those beyond-reproach church-going folk?

    Brown and Martin are modern-day “Ras-the-Destroyer’ figments culled from Ellison’s “Invisible Man.” He foresaw the postures and media pageantry that militant black lumpenproles would incite more than 60-plus years ago.

  199. In my mind the real parallel to make is between Omar Thornton and Dylann Roof. Notice how the media handled the two situations. I wish Thornton had survived so that we could see more media reaction, and more ink from them on how Thornton’s white victims “had it coming” due to the simple, one-sided racism claims from Thornton. (claims which the other black co-workers did not corroborate, by the way)

  200. “There is also an argument that Roof killed the most diabolical kind of “blacks.” The kind who look like little old religious Christian ladies AND YET carry on a racial war of anti-white Supremacy WITH ABSOLUTE impunity.”

    Totally insane. Can you qualify that outrageous assertion in any way whatsoever?

    So the ‘old black church ladies’ are off the zeitgeist, harmless, thus no one’s desirous of them thus no one’s frustrated by them —- so they’re accorded a sort-of de facto blamelessness; they are left alone and to some degree become synonymous filament for whatever abstract virtue that comes its way from some other.

    Is that their threat? Is that the source of their powerless ‘impunity?’

    Now of course, if you reply to this, you’ll be even more incomprehensible than ever ——- indecipherable explanation is your personal mode of ‘impunity.’

  201. Nikcrit….

    You have not established the innocence of Roof’s “victims” by the MERE FACT that the were residing inside a Christian church, have you? Then by what substance have you established their innocence? Are you also CLAIMING that “blacks” do not, have not and are not carrying out a racial war of anti-white Supremacy behind the closed doors of many “black” churches? “Black” “Christian” females carry on no such “struggle?”

    EXPLAIN to “us” the reaction of the media and the “black” collective to the Roof homicides?

    You will be left either in a state of inexplicable bewilderment or unwillingly forced to blow the smoke of “authentic” “black Christian” forgiveness up our arse.

  202. “The conflict that is diversity.”

    It has been observed before.

    Diversity as a good thing is inextricably tied into the belief in Progress and Easy Energy and Abundance. The idea that people are heading into a future of marvelous technology and all our problems are solved.

    But that is not how it is. Even with more available energy, in whatever form, the population expands to its limits and then the same old competition.

    Conflict between and among the Races exists to the extent that the Races exist.

    We are animals in competition for living space and the food and resources and the females that come with the territory.

    Allowing brown and black animals into our living space is ipso facto failure and defeat. To the extent that they are here and living their lives, that is their victory and their lives, and we are not living in those houses and those neighborhoods, and enjoying those parks and places — they are.

    We don’t live here anymore. We don’t enact our rituals, and our mating games are a quaint recollection.

    Be back in two-and-two!

  203. “The conflict that is diversity.”

    But how people feel about that conflict, their emotional reaction to it — is a secondary thing. It is not THE thing, it is merely an axis of the larger interplay which is the competition between evolving subspecies.

    But people’s feelings and emotional reactions to the violence that comes with the conflict that is diversity — is mistaken for THE principle of our lives; it is mistaken for the first principle of social organization and society.

    We are to organize our societies about these feelings and emotional reactions, so that no one is hurt.

    But it doesn’t work that way.

    Most people don’t like violence. I for one am not, by nature, a bloodthirsty killer who enjoys seeing other living creatures suffer in pain and expire.

    A scene in Conan had him watching a worthwhile enemy (a fellow body builder) expire impaled on a spike trap. That scene was done just right. Conan relished in it. That was Conan. Who else would he have been?

    We have been mislead, perhaps by our own better natures, into mistaking our emotional reactions to conflict and violence, as a justification for surrendering of our living space and all that goes with it which turns out to be our lives.

  204. The multi-race living arrangement pleasantly called diversity can only work in artificial conditions when the gettin is good. Under such conditions the cutthroat nature of the competition that is Life can be overlooked.

    On the surface of things, such artificial conditions still obtain. Many people are of the opinion that they will continue to do so for a good while yet.

    But even under these conditions, the effects of the competition between the races, on the quality of life, is become awfully gol-darned apparent to those with eyes.

    It is in everytime you go to the store, that there’s black youths of the dead-eyed fat trash variety, lurking in the corridors, where before it was old white ladies.

    And they look like the walking dead. Shuffling about with hungry eyes, dressed in shit clothes but usually fat.

  205. If Camlost conceals his identity, that woman would more reason to be angry at him. In don’t even understand why he would do that except to be intentionally deceptive. It’s also very unlikely a white woman would go on a rant about hating Asians. I’ve never heard a white person do that.

  206. “But even under these conditions, the effects of the competition between the races, on the quality of life, is become awfully gol-darned apparent to those with eyes.”

    That is when you go to the beach, and instead of white people it is browns and blacks.

    Recently at a local beach a young child drowned, and they did not release the name for awhile. This beach is one of thousands that used to be whites only, but now it is a favorite spot for immigrants (good Russians) but also unwanted browns and blacks.

    I could not find a picture but the kid’s name turned out to be Louisa Kajmowicz Tipu, which is anyone’s guess.

    But in conversation with locals, i ask, was the kid white or not? and so am gauche for being up front with race concerns — but that is the question that everyone is thinking. It is a mixed beach now, and was it a local kid or one of the low-class newcomers who live in apartments and are here every day and don’t know how to swim and can’t keep an eye on their children?

  207. “But in conversation with locals, i ask, was the kid white or not? and so am gauche for being up front with race concerns — but that is the question that everyone is thinking. It is a mixed beach now, and was it a local kid or one of the low-class newcomers who live in apartments and are here every day and don’t know how to swim and can’t keep an eye on their children?”

    Again, interesting sociological field reports from the ground up and brought to the small and concentrated mass that is here —– but again, as i’ve contended before of your reports, what you speak of is as much a product of socio-economic class and clash as it is purely ethnic clash and other such relations.

    I mean, i’m often in a environment in which, technically speaking, it’s quite ‘diverse-‘—— yet because it’s a step up economically (i.e.., rote middle-class professionals, Camry-driving teachers, asst. principals and their ilk), there’s none of that constant sense of threat and dread that you well describe.

    And you say repeatedly “The conflict that is diversity,” which is true. But at the same time, which each passing period of time, there’s also an emerging culture that is diversity, whose biology is/are hybrids like myself, a mass of sweat, blood, spirit, genetics and folklore replete with stories of this relatively new life and attendant experiences.

  208. camlost: “one-sided racism claims from Thornton. (claims which the other black co-workers did not corroborate, by the way)”

    who was the black homicidal nutjob who killed those peopl.e on a train in some NY borough and then served as his own lawyer during trial?

  209. — there’s also an emerging culture that is diversity, whose biology is/are hybrids like myself, a mass of sweat, blood, spirit, genetics and folklore replete with stories of this relatively new life and attendant experiences.

    On a personal level I sympathize with and understand why you Romanticize that, but history shows this to be more myth — especially an unrealistic extrapolation of the Zionist-origin American melting pot mythology — than a historic pattern.

    Hybridity can happen on outlier basis, where individual outliers buck the aggregate. But tolerance of hybridity scales up poorly, and almost never happens without large scale violence, especially rape — that’s how conquistadores mixed with South American Indios, creating mestizos and Arabs became darker by raping their African female slaves. Where there is similarity and relative amiability between cultures, mutually voluntary mixing is more common, like New England’s mics and wops intermarrying. Where there isnt, you have force-integrated Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians killing each other after Tito’s death, with separation being the only thing that stopped further genocide.

  210. who was the black homicidal nutjob who killed those peopl.e on a train in some NY borough and then served as his own lawyer during trial?

    LOL, Colin Ferguson, a Jamaican immigrant. His brilliant defense was that the crime was committed by someone else who looked just like him, and had the same name as him.

  211. “Where there is similarity and relative amiability between cultures, mutually voluntary mixing is more common, like New England’s mics and wops intermarrying. Where there isnt, you have force-integrated Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians killing each other…..with separation being the only thing that stopped further genocide.”

    Short term? Yeah, socio-ethnic strife certainly will prevail. But in evolutionary-scale increments of time? change is constant (i.e., which is how you have the existing races and racial distinctions thst you and yours bow to daily)……btw, re. the Serb-Croat-Bosnian thing; I’m not qualified to opine, not sure what the particular components are there re. the religious and ethnic clashing. You should bring us arrogant Americans up to speed on some of the contemporary Eastern and Southeastern European dilemmas.

    Overall, human biological diversity is constant; whether those who comprise the zeitgeist shock troops to that fact are heroic iconoclasts or rude upstarts to proprietary foothold, I do not know. But I do know that change is the constant that makes the world go round —– and besides, what else could someone like me say?

    I also go back to my common reference: look, within the western world, at how much socio-ethnic-racial change has been wrought between 1900 and 2000; i.e., intra-European mixing, interracial pairing, all of which stimulated tremendously by technological change —- which brings new divides and alliances AND their attendant moralities and ethos.

    Show me a period or even epoch of history in which a reactionary movement effectively turned back time and relived its history. And i don’t mean that rhetorically; I’m genuinely asking, because I can’t think of a single example.

  212. “There is also an argument that Roof killed the most diabolical kind of “blacks.” The kind who look like little old religious Christian ladies AND YET carry on a racial war of anti-white Supremacy WITH ABSOLUTE impunity.”

    LOL. Old black church people are about the least “diabolical” people on the planet. In general, blacks are just simple sun people who haven’t made a plan in their life and don’t see 3 weeks down the road. Even a shocking number of black households who made $75K+ per year are still effectively living check-to-check, partly through bad money management and partly through always supporting less capable family and friends with money.

    As Sailer has pointed out, the whitest thing about Obama is his complete refusal to do much for his African relatives or really associate at all with blacks who weren’t educated at the Ivies.

    Despite their penchant for making up exotic and “mysterious” names, blacks in general are extremely unsophisticated and not really capable of the most mundane tasks that require organization and planning, such as some secret racial war. If blacks were capable of any real semblance of organization and effective, cooperative politics, it wouldn’t have been so easy for those kings and chiefs to snatch them up their rivals in the next village and send them to the coast in exchange for rum and pistols.

    Blacks just want white people to treat them like they’d treat each other – with open pocketbooks and lax rules,morals and restrictions, and no patriarchal discipline or overly harsh expectations of responsibility. Black people never say “no” to each other. But whites don’t want to live in that chaotic, disorderly way, we’re not wired in that fashion and we instinctively realize that the end result of that type of approach is devolution into African-type squalor and lawlessness.

  213. –Show me a period or even epoch of history in which a reactionary movement effectively turned back time and relived its history.

    Russia is a Christian, nationalist state today whereas from 1917 to 1990 it was supposed to be a Worker’s Paradise and from 1990 to 1999 it was supposed to be the globalist’s paradise.

    European empires such as Polish-Lithuanian, Ottoman, and Austro-Hungarian promoted cosmopolitanism until they didn’t. In 1938 Poland was multicultural echo of the 16th – 18th century Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth (about 60% ethnic Polish at outbreak of WWII) and in 1946 it was smaller and almost 100% ethnic Polish.

    It is an error to think of history in terms of linear progress and reaction. That is fundamentally a Marxist model. More accurately, history is cyclical. Everything, including assertion of order and assertion of entropy, moves in cycles.

  214. “It’s also very unlikely a white woman would go on a rant about hating Asians. I’ve never heard a white person do that.”

    There are a lot of pre-Baby Boomer-era people who are anti-Japanese and very proud and open about their feelings; I recall being surprised that my great Aunt even expressed as much, and she was a local celeb and iconoclast for, as a woman born in the 1920s, went on to get her doctorate, which was very rare for that time.

    She even rationalized the internment of the Japanese after Pearl Harbor.

  215. Tit for tat is the name of the game.

    It’s just the same as inside of prison. White prison gangs ***MUST*** retatliate when one of their own is attacked. Cops and the military do it too. It is how men earn respect in the real world.

    Christian blacks may be far more dangerous and subversive than the typical black ‘banger. You don’t see them coming. Modern Xtianity is very antiwhite. Probably they help import foreign immigrants. Many xtians support diverisity, which is soft genocide for the white race. In addition, there is their slavishness to Israel.

    Thordaddy knows this best of all. Ask him what would happen if he let customers boss him around. He knows the street would hear in a minute and he’d have all sorts of problems. The most violent man wins.

    A great test for WNs is do they support Brevik and the Aryan Brotherhood? It is one of most valuable predictors I know of.

  216. “Everything, including assertion of order and assertion of entropy, moves in cycles.”

    I actually, quite readily, agree with that assertion and have come to that conclusion on my own many times.
    Yet somehow I still believe what I do, even though i guess it is a contradiction.

    Perhaps technological change and ‘progress’ is the x-factor being begged here: i.e., my mantra about future social history offering, simultaneously, ‘more mixing’ AND ‘more segregation,’ etc., more micro trends and thus more micro-measures and other developments..

    In any case, the final word on what characterizes certain periods of history themselves will be more controversial, as micro-tech itself now can challenge those larger, supposedly authoritative and historical “Narratives.”

    The alt-right certainly can’t argue with that contention, as it often declares blogs and other digital comm developments as its avenue to contemporary influence.

  217. “Change is constant…”

    Can there be any phrase more impervious to actual conceivability than the above?

    Is it a mere coincidence that such phrase is the stock memetic menstruation of the radical autonomist?

    Might as well CLAIM your “operating paradigm” is Perfection and be a Supremacist and at least grant your mind something to work with.

  218. If “change is constant” then one never “sees” “it” in real time. So one “sees” nothing at all or glimpses a momentary “acceleration” against the GIVEN that is “constant change.”

  219. One can ponder the predicted aftermath of Roof’s homicidal attack on pious “black” church ladies…

    And they would then confront a near silence of inexplicable essence.

    It seems ALL want to let this sleeping dog lie?

  220. Do you understand Nikcrit?

    IF “Change is Constant” then “technology” changes “nothing.” Technology, AT BEST, is only an aspect of the Constant. And at its worst, technology is merely an aspect of the Constant.

    Something has to give?

  221. HBD only possesses real meaning when one’s “operating paradigm” AXIOMATICALLY INCLUDES God-ordained free will. Outside of this, HBD is a mere factual claim of “human biodiversity” that is either accepted or rejected. But at it stands and because nearly all reject an objectively Supreme “operating paradigm,” ie., a Perfect Operating Paradigm, then “we” are left to be immersed amongst those who embrace and reject the fact claim of HBD. None seem to recognize that HBD is truly defined by the men possessing God-ordained free will. Those who do not possess such a “thing” can define “nothing” only.

  222. Which leads “us” back to the duplicitousness that is Jayman and the idea that one can build a credibility in defining and detailing HBD all the while possessing NO REAL WILL to do so…

    Cats buy it like catnip… And then it’s like cat’s got your tongue. Meow!

  223. Thordaddy, this isn’t the first time I’m asking you this: consolidate your string of comments into fewer comments. Verbal continence please. Wait 30 seconds before pressing Send. If you don’t think you can do that I will help you by modding you.

  224. But in evolutionary-scale increments of time? change is constant (i.e., which is how you have the existing races and racial distinctions thst you and yours bow to daily) — nikcrit

    Great example of using a cliche in order to justify a particular political slant, in this case race-mixing.

    Does change always exist? Change of what? Everything? Is everything always changing. Is nothing ever not changing?

    Are the ideas that we use to consider these questions subject to the same questions themselves, and if so doesn’t that created a paradox? because how can we describe what is changing with things that are themselves changing? and if that is the case, might the the idea that there is always change be absurd?

    And anyways, the RATE of change, of evolution and of races and species, is NOT constant.

    *****************

    Races will always be in conflict, “change” will always exist. But how those changes play out and effect [no sic] the races, is not a constant at all, it is a struggle that waxes and wanes depending on circumstance.

    Overall, human biological diversity is constant; whether those who comprise the zeitgeist shock troops to that fact are heroic iconoclasts or rude upstarts to proprietary foothold, I do not know. But I do know that change is the constant that makes the world go round

    No, human biological diversity is NOT a constant. Sometimes there is more of it and sometimes there is less. When the Aborigines of the Northern Territories went extinct there became less of it; when that last Indian in California died, there became less human biological diversity.

  225. “Sometimes there is more of it and sometimes there is less”

    Agreed. But it is nonetheless ‘constant,’ those faster or slower flowings notwithstanding.’

    As for the rest of your umbrage with my remarks: yes, i pretty much agree; much of what i said was hyperbolic but ever-subordinate to this fact/main point i was making: the various human that makes for ‘the races’ themselves —— blacks, asians, hispanics, mideasterns —— is a result of mixing over the evolutionary field of measure; i.e., tens of thousands of years; that may seem esoterically distant to the point of being unfathomable. But it’s nonetheless meta in considering racial difference today, tomorrow and forever.

    Beyond that, i think there are other universal forces that cause humanity to seek diversity, a sort-of anthropological pull or instinct or reflex. But I don’t want to get into that can of worms now

  226. Beyond that, i think there are other universal forces that cause humanity to seek diversity, a sort-of anthropological pull or instinct or reflex. But I don’t want to get into that can of worms now

    You mean this can on the far right? (but with Trickin’s visage) 🙂

  227. hahaha. but when are you going to answer my question about your hypothetical jap-hating WASP 10 girlfriend, mr. chiquita incognita? 🙂

  228. The idea that “races” will always be in conflict is somewhat simplistic, the real issue is tribalism.

    Even today, humanity is still tribal, and not organized by “race”. The only “race” that even gets along with itself moderately is the European, and that only after a whole lot of fighting, suffering, compromising and yes, evolving into being a political animal that is willing to compromise and adhere to laws and norms that allow the establishment of that fundamental unit of advanced society – the nation.

    Even the English are an amalgamation of tribes – the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians, all of whom migrated from areas across the Rhine that we now know as Germany after the fall of the Roman. But the peculiar characteristics of these and other Northwest Europeans are what allow the underpinnings of the modern nation – a commitment to duty and willingness to submit to law, self-reliance, self-discipline and a flair for politics and compromise.

    Africans and Middle Easterners simply aren’t good at politics as evidenced by the fact that they don’t have the ability to form a large nation of economic stability and military power – this is partly why militancy is so popular in the Arab world – it’s the one time Muslims can feel competent and united in something that can even shake the throne of the mighty power of Western nations. They’re surely no match on the battlefield, for all of their radical Islamists’ talk of Jihad.

    Capitalism doesn’t work in low-trust Africa because Africans themselves don’t invest capital in any economic endeavor, knowing that they can’t trust anyone outside their own family. Pretty much all 3rd-world nations have extremely deep tribal rivalries that are on a hair trigger to erupt into violence at any time – think Hotel Rwanda or the recent Obama-inspired violence in Libya – Qaddafi’s relatively small tribe was in power and suppressed the others and eventually had a legion of rival tribes arrayed against him and had to import sub-Saharan mercenaries as soldiers and police.

    And “races” get along very well in Singapore, because it is ruled with an iron fist in a “colorblind” fashion.

  229. hahaha. but when are you going to answer my question about your hypothetical jap-hating WASP 10 girlfriend, mr. chiquita incognita?:)

    LOL, you’re serious? you really do want me to answer that?

    And I’m not trying to date any perfect 10’s, either if that’s what you mean. Too high maintenance and (much like home computers) you don’t necessarily get that much extra when you jump from the B or B+ model to the A++. Gimme that lusty 7.5 any day.

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