Open Thread — and a Look Ahead

I’ll be busy with a project over the forthnight so posting will be sparse. Once that’s done, new material will once again come at a steady clip. Meanwhile, newer readers can browse the tabs I set up at the top of the page (under Menu in mobile view); be sure to look thorough the comments as well.

A forward-looking item: I am thinking about several commenters’ suggestions that I start a comic strip. I have never done one before so this will be a fresh endeavor and I already have some ideas. If you have any thoughts — simple punchline comedy, satire, characters that need to be introduced to the world, or an ongoing storyline — drop them here. I will be reading the comments.

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202 thoughts on “Open Thread — and a Look Ahead

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  2. What would Lewis Carroll think of Dr. Seuss? Both had screws loose in a big way, but the screws themselves were much different at base. Seuss seemed to ridicule the field of logic in a more insurgent way, without any known study of logic or math themselves. A somewhat deranged insurgency.

    Carroll’s message plunges the depths more, nonetheless maintaining an over-drugged gypsy’s buoyancy. While Seuss’s puzzlingly more controlled private insanity treats cosmic mountaintops as a single irreal rollercoaster. Each of these riders deserves some treatment as actual characters in the wayward category of the comic-strip.

  3. Ok, so if open threads me we can post any topic, the Council on American-Islamic relations takes time to remind us that they’re victims, too:

    “”Homophobia, transphobia, and Islamophobia are interconnected systems of oppression and we cannot dismantle one without dismantling the others,” he continued.”

    It’s just hilarious to me that liberals are absolutely obsessed with what conservatives “believe” about gay issues, while ignoring that all of these precious Muslim immigrants they want to import generally oppose gay rights about 90% of the time, according to every poll. And up to 30% of American Muslims openly admit sympathy for ISIS in phone polls (and I’m thinking this number is actually lower than it is in reality) and overwhelmingly large margins “believe” the US should implement shariah law and dismantle the constitution.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2016/06/12/cair-on-orlando-attack-homophobia-islamophobia-are-interconnected-systems-of-oppression/

  4. Well, since comic strips are generally synonymous with super heroes, this calls for PA to create an ubermensch character with an “M” logo on the chest. 🙂

  5. Alright, I’ll bite. I have an idea for an open-ended kingdom of pictures you can develop.

    Make it a media comic strip. Have the big news organizations — those run by liberals, with deep pockets and broadcast saturation — posting their lies and distortions on the one hand.

    Then have private websites, with a few chosen heroes, manning the gun-emplaced ramparts, trying to fight the leviathan forces of the Cathedral. Perhaps, in time, you can include my website in that noble endeavor.

    Although I have plans in the future to expand bigtime to be side by side with the Cathedral. If you want to say, “I knew Sorcerygod when …” check out my website now at:

    http://www.sorcerygod.wordpress.com

  6. A good character would be a paki raghead who keeps 11y-o White girls in his dungeon. Any type a PC pig or SW gets susicious he accuses them of racism & they give him a young girl to show how un-racist thsy are.

  7. I think the most interesting cases in our society, and the ones most pregnant with inchoate possibilities, are those individuals who are just on the edge of defecting rightward. There is great potential in portraying the drama of this moral dilemma, being torn by ambivalence, epiphany, and the courage of intellectual liberation surrounding such journeys.

    You could also draw historical parallels with those struggling through similar torments in other repressive regimes and societies.

    On the right I sometimes call such people ‘pre-reactionaries’, (perhaps transitioning from cuckservative to cockservative) and on the left you have people who are getting mugged by reality and finally hit a breaking point, or otherwise are straining but failing to maintain cognitive dissonance and avoid crimethink in the face of some personal experience or application of Conquest’s First Law.

    These little tales are like puzzle pieces. Each character and drama is like the story told by only one of the blind men describing the elephant. But together all the bits of heresy from progressive orthodoxy, lessons hard learned through avoidable human tragedy, are like puzzle pieces that come together like a mosaic and reveal the complete picture, the truth from which all but a tiny handful of enlightened spirits are alienated.

    That is the big theme perhaps. Most can appreciate one facet of deviation from the leftist narrative, but they are isolated by paranoia and cannot come together to combine their knowledge into a coherent refutation. All the lonely people imagining they are all alone or outnumbered, but not actually being so.

    Maybe these characters and stories are too heavy for a comic.

  8. “Trump is doubling down.”

    In terms of how this tragedy is going to play on the prez race, I say it’s going to be a draw. I mean, I just watched about fifteen minutes of Trump’s address, and i found myself in a few moments being swayed to believe he was taking it to another level, or throwing candid caution to the wind, etc. ——- but then, they ran some of HRC”s ‘react,’ and one could see how her words could be used to her advantage, etc.

    And then the obvious: both will use this to shore up the pieties they have stored on their respective sides; i think Trump wins slightly in the measure, because he does ‘genuine emotion’ much better than Hillary, whose stoic posturing and pseudo emoting on the stump is by far her biggest liability as a candidate; surprised she never developed a more natural campaigning disposition from all those years standing beside her man.

    It’s interesting; in the past it was Sandy Hook. Now for this year there’s yet a new rallying incident to put into play the Gop-Dem, pro-vs.-anti-NRA lobby and forces.. I sense ‘Advantage Trump’ at this admittedly early date.

  9. PA My commenting has also been sparse as of late because I haven’t had a day off since Memorial Day but wanted to drop in to say Trump absolutely destroyed Hillary … I was listening to it on my way to work and was just electrified. After 8 years of the professorial Obama I haven’t heard political oratory with that level of candor and passion.

  10. Oh MGE, Trump’s remarks were horrible! Those tweet tho! C’mon, (((David Remnick))) at ((The New Yorker)) has made it clear about Trump’s tweets: “But their velocity, vapidity, and sheer ugliness reflect his character, his emptiness, and, most of all, the shape of the election campaign to come.”

    See? It’s right there! Actually, if you want to view the bat-shit crazy Prog landscape in all it’s twisted, ignorant glory, the New Yorker is awash in stupidity right now (no comments allowed, of course). My favorite is a piece about Hena Khan, who has just been doing a public reading of her new children’s book, “It’s Ramadan, Curious George.”

    **** waits for that to sink in ****

    Yup, that’s what I said. “It’s Ramadan, Curious George.” This is a real thing.

    Anyway, she went from the vibrant joy of making the chilluns happy — “the kids went wild”! — to the depressing horror of the Orlando story. And then you get comments like this from Ms. Khan which you can do nothing but shake your head at in wonder: “I view the L.G.B.T. community as an ally in fighting bigotry. There are so many parallels. Anti-Sharia and anti-gay laws reflect overlapping bigotry.”

    Got that? So anti-sharia laws and anti-gay laws ARE EQUALLY HORRIBLE!, even though Sharia law is, ummm, violently anti-gay and basically says they must be killed. Get THAT straight in your head!

  11. Fellas, our predecessors opened the world stage to a slippery democratical beast they didn’t care to examine too close (or properly scrutinize its scaly pedigree). Keep your vision and actions anchored in reality. Don’t read the New Yorker. We must steer this ship of fools back into unpolluted waters and redeem our forebears’ dignity before the argus-lashed examination of The Creator.

  12. I just wanted to say that Handle produced a very elegant piece of writing several postings above this one of mine. I checked out his site and was disappointed to find that there were only a few articles there. Apparently he had given up before his time.

    PA, any chance you can get a reply button after each commenter’s posting? I would like to reply specifically, rather than have readers scroll back up, up, up, wondering what the hell $orcerygod is talking about now.

  13. “A trail through the mountains, if used, becomes a path in a short time, but, if unused, becomes blocked by grass in an equally short time.” –Mencius

  14. Here’s some advice you hateful dipshit, the more you try to bring islam down, the stronger it will come back in an endless progression until you’re too weak to mount any sort of meaningful resistance. your hatred and bigotry and your quivering hands belie your weakness.
    Despite your pathetic attempts at islamophobia and the way your media paints muslims and promotes hatred against their kind, Islam is still going strong and looking to take over the hateful west as your enfeebled people keep flailing aimlessly at them.

  15. Here’s some advice you hateful dipshit, the more you try to bring islam down, the stronger it will come back in an endless progression until you’re too weak to mount any sort of meaningful resistance. your hatred and bigotry and your quivering hands belie your weakness.

    We’re actually all quite OK with both Muslims and Islam here… as long as it exists in Muslim countries where it belongs. We’re not moving into their countries in masse and refusing to assimilate and attempting to change their cultures or laws.

  16. Feeble clans speak of their religion as their new pit-bull hungry for squirrels and such. The Internet is always on somewhere, a spooky edifice somehow cauterizing the world’s vanishing attention span with electronic pellets of crack. The Louvre is flooded like a New Orleans brothel. This abyss must be quickly saddled.

  17. New is coming out that Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, had visited that nightclub several times before and was often thrown out for being too drunk.

  18. Oh Saj! You’re such a delight!

    This is what happens when you mix rampant SJW-ism with a low IQ Mussleman. You end up with incoherent rambles which, translated, equal: “My hate good, your hate bad.”

    But listen Moohammet, listen. Weaponizing Progressivism is a Jew thing. So when you spout off about “Islamophobia” you’re doing the Jews’ work, and you Moozies hate them Jews, n’est–ce pas? Yet they are happily roping nitwits like you into their project of bringing down the West. After all, the Tribe always does quite well in a Caliphate. When you have a low IQ population of inbred retards ruled by force, well SOMEBODY has to control the money, see? Guess who shows up to do just that?

    Think a bit, you brainwashed lunkhead. The alt-right is on your side. We don’t want to invade your stupid, useless nations. We’re happy to leave you alone to your cousin marriages and homo-killing-while-secretly-being-very-very-homo. It’s your thang, do what cha gonna do. Just stay the hell out of our countries and we’re all good.

  19. This is what happens when you mix rampant SJW-ism with a low IQ Mussleman.

    LMAO…. that was somewhat evident, wasn’t it?

    But I will never figure out how you can tolerate living in New York, though.

  20. I check out CH’s site and Twitt.-feed every so often. Reminds me a bit of an American E.M. Cioran. Captivating in the way pontoon boat rides with strong bloody-maries are captivating. He once mentioned a new “Fascist” alt-right music genre emerging. A kind of synthetic, silvered and premeditated brawn. Just realized John Carpenter’s Lost Themes may hit this niche a bit harder…

  21. “John Carpenter’s Lost Themes may hit this niche a bit harder…”

    Soo, you’re saying it would be fitting for the alt-right to score itself to 21st-century Muzak? Ouch! lol….

    No, seriously, I like some of his composing; it’s just that i think of it more as ‘soundtrack’ than musical ‘composition’ as usually defined…. I liked ‘The Thing’ and I recall writing the review for the remake of “Assault on Precinct 13,” the one with Fishburne and,i think, Ethan Hawke……I shouldn’t make petty jibes; compared to the mass of directors and dramatists today, Carpenter is outright Shakespearean..

  22. “Now is coming out that Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, had visited that nightclub several times before and was often thrown out for being too drunk.”

    A self-loathing gay radical Islamist: bet it would be interesting to read a transcript of the sessions between him and his therapist, eh?

  23. “…score itself to 21st-century Muzak?”

    I used to avoid such noise like the plague. I’ve recently found some of it is effective for the weight room, or on boats. Beethoven won’t cut it while still daytime in the deep sea, or even on a lake. In an aircraft, this doesn’t hold up

  24. A self-loathing gay radical Islamist: bet it would be interesting to read a transcript of the sessions between him and his therapist, eh?

    He strikes me as very similar to the description of a lot of terrorists who grew up in Europe as 1st generation to parents of Middle Eastern origin – not bright enough to make it very well in society, substance problems, identity problems, inferiority complex issues and not particularly religious at all… a complete and utter screw up who floats through life quite aimlessly but eventually finds a purpose through the anti-Western message of radical Islam.

    I’m thinking his knowledge of the building helped him to a higher kill count, too.

  25. I see enormous potential in the pedal steel guitar. I’ve seen it ravish and force jazz into a sort of tectonic coherency//inflammatory in a clearly more Nordic way. Look out!

  26. “Tectonic coherency.”…..Interesting term. But I don’t get a very specific sense toward what it might mean…..
    Bit of help with that?

  27. Casts the shambles under the action of even more cavernous forces- yet immensities wielded from the earth’s center, rather than Pluto’s scattered jizz.

  28. Even if Orlando is a false flag, it needs to be narrated as a murderous orgy of self-annihilation rooted in sexual degeneracy and so with it the predictable cry of the radical liberals that in no manner shall the sexual desires of anyone be infringed upon AND INSTEAD we shall confiscate that MOG, curb that speech and never whisper Islam’s sexually degenerate “afterlife.”

  29. Obama starting to crack under the pressure of criticism on terrorism, went on a long tirade today.

    That’s not helping Hilary at all.

  30. What if one is a faggot jihadist? What good is 72 virgins, let alone possessing them for all of eternity? Imagine the torment in a hard conversion? The reward for jihad is sexually repulsive to you. So one cannot really convert in a “faithful” act of murderous self-annihilation. How many faggot jihadists are roaming the more queer parts of the country seeking some sort of twisted “salvation?”

  31. If your desire is self-annihilation, as is given to homosexuals and jihadists, this worldly and that other worldly, respectively, then “Orlando” is a really real realization of YOUR DEEPEST DESIRE. And it is because of this deep desire for self-annihilation that “Orlando” is ripe for false flag imitation to the ADVANCEMENT of the homosexual and jihadist AT the expense of the healthy-minded behind the MOG.

  32. If one is metaphysically stunted and can reduce reality to a “universal equality” and The Redundant Phenomenon then “Orlando” even in the classical frame will reduce to a redundant phenomenon. And the redundant phenomenon in “Orlando” is the “radical sexual autonomy” of “Western” nihilistic homo-sexuals versus Islam’s reward of “radical sexual autonomy” to its jihadists in the “afterlife.” Each side DELVES DEEPER to the benefit of total sexual degeneracy… Nihilism begets jihad begets more nihilism begets greater jihad begets total self-annihilation of the sexually degenerate per Natural Law. Islam though, outbreeds it perpetuating self-annihilation while “Western” nihilists simply believe to hold the technology to “our” creation. Sexual degenerates holding the techno-keys to creation. Umm… Radical (sexual) autonomy?

  33. Each Pond Gone — after your response to Nikcrit, I tremble to ask — but what do you think of the pedal steel on Loretta Lynn’s “Portland, Oregon”? And who did you have in mind?

  34. I’d like to see the pedal steel incorporated in ‘ghost rock’ sounds too, such as Pine Hill Haints. Lots of new terrain abounds in such directions

  35. “nihilistic homo-sexuals”//”Sexual degenerates holding the techno-keys to creation.”

    t-daddy, in spurts you tend to describe Silicon Valley right on the mark. There’s something there, beneath all those quotation marks. Although “Orlando” merits them, for sure.

  36. EPG…

    Again, the quotes are for those times where a contested frame is at hand. The default assumption in “Orlando” is false flag (but this doesn’t mean it wasn’t actually jihad TOO) and so “we” are not speaking of Orlando per se, but “Orlando,” that place of false flag propaganda and/or jihad.

  37. Oh-oh! PA, I warn you from experience: nip this thread’s avant-music nerd tangent in the bud; otherwise, in no time, you’ll be fielding link-after-link like this one, a pre-cursor into what ‘jazz’ would’ve been like had it absolutely no black-American influence whatsoever! lol!!

    Or, even scarier —– this one here is how Pearl Jam will sound if they keep getting ‘progressive’ and play together into their 60s:

    Yikes!

  38. Excuse me, when I say “default assumption,” I am speaking of our side. Their side is once again going to coalesce around “white supremacy” as the ultimate culprit thus maximizing their collective autonomy (homosexual and Islamic) in relation to the white collective.

  39. Thor,
    what about this story is ‘tell-tale’ to you in making you believe it’s ‘false-flag.’ IOW: what are you seeing that us mere mortals are not?

  40. nikcrit- saw them live. Much better up close. No way to capture it on YT vid. Agreed it’s a disaster. Not even their albums do them justice. Brotzmann’s getting too old for this. It’s merely a rough starting point, which speaks volumes

  41. Call it the “Bent Crayon” sound….. When it comes to prog-rock and serial jazz, i can’t decide which ethnodemographic is more inclined to create it: Canadians or Swedes and other Scandinavians?
    There’s something in that cool, dry air and bleakly haunting winter landscapes that inspire such inspired cacaphony; a rude and disorderly break from the black…

  42. I’m thinking his knowledge of the building helped him to a higher kill count, too.

    Something helped him. Is it or is it not realistic, his body count?

    I lean toward yes, but who knows.

    Frankly it seems a little high. On the other hand, they were fags and soft marks.

    **************

    Trump hit all the right notes, in his speech yesterday.

    How can anyone not see that the immediate and intermediate future, for the people in America, will be better off with Trump in charge.

  43. Whether or not it is a false flag, doesn’t matter.

    Same with 9/11. Those buildings were demolished. That is a case closed statement. On the other hand, there were willing Arab accomplices.

    With this incident in Orlando, why would that be a false flag. If there was an additional shooter or two, isn’t it more likely they were real sympaticos.

  44. Nikcrit…

    That’s not the point… Although that ZED card of head shots seems a tale to tell. The point is that no matter whether this was a false flag or jihad, ALL the momentum STILL PUSHES TOWARDS anti-white SupremacY EVEN with The Trumprisal.

  45. Suburban Elk…

    The reason for the false flag accusation is to let those who have as their aim to confiscate the MOG to be put on notice… That any false flag event used to spur “gun control” fever better be meticulously carried out with near perfection or largely elicit an innocuous effect. And when such a false flag uses rivaling sexual degenerates to spur “gun control” fever TO said sexual degenerate infectious favor then a “default assumption” of false flag is the prudent first reaction. Now, “we” recognize extant jihad and the deleterious effect of reducing all events to a mono-causal phenomenon. So although the default assumption is false flag, in no way does this suggest all events false flag as though one was authoring the omnipotence of UncleBeast into the Narrative in the same manner all “rightist” activists seem to author the inevitable “supremacy” of their enemies into the Narrative. This really may be a jihadist faggot seeking a twisted “salvation.”

  46. There’s something in that cool, dry air and bleakly haunting winter landscapes that inspire such inspired cacaphony; a rude and disorderly break from the black…

    The black contribution to music, for the ages, was made. With the Blues.

    I hate that the alt-right has to deny that contribution.

    Americans cannot come to terms with themselves, denying the Blues.

  47. Yeah i said too much …

    Trickin. Did you see my vid, before PA in his better judgment, took it down?

  48. Hard to deny the blues. Blind Willie McTell brought me through some tough impasses. But just as the real Buddhists must ultimately ‘let go of the Buddha,’ I get the impression that a leap SOMEWHERE, forward, sideways, even back, won’t materialize until the blues is shot out back like Ol’ Yeller. Dionysus awaits on the other side

  49. Looks like Trump is going to keep relentlessly pushing the issue of who else in the family/friends circle knew about Mateen’s intentions. A cuck nominee like Romney would be too scared to touch that issue at this juncture 6 months before the election.

  50. Classic D&D scales, wisdom assessment of regular characters.

    nikcrit: 16
    Suburban_elk: 15
    PA: 16
    peterike: 17 or 18
    Camlost: 15
    LBF: 13 or 14
    thordaddy: 14

  51. Humor, classic D&D scales, tied in to wisdom and charisma but its own separate neglected category.

    nikcrit: 15
    Suburban_elk: 25
    PA: 16
    peterike: 24
    Camlost: 18
    LBF: 10
    thordaddy: 15

  52. Whatever. The time for jokes is done.

    Consider yourself a character out of Cormac McCarthy.

    Are you that tough, kid?

    “Words were said that could not be takin back.”

  53. The black contribution to music, for the ages, was made. With the Blues.

    I hate that the alt-right has to deny that contribution.

    Sure, I’ll acknowledge black contributions and/or talent in sports, acting, music.

    But the outsized influence of entertainment in post-modern America is already a huge part of our current predicament. It’s brought too much groupthink, we need less media consumption. Entertainment is peripheral in the grand scheme of things.

  54. I LOL’d at all the nerds who were solemnly discussing ballistics as if they were experts and speculating that there was more than one shooter in Orlando. Fucking geeks. Get a grip, goys.

  55. Until leftoids, femcunts, and faggots say that Muslims are a bigger threat than White Christians, I’m going to sit back and enjoy the show. Shit happens. They brought it on themselves.

    Events are playing right into our hands.

    More, please.

  56. “Trickin. Did you see my vid, before PA in his better judgment, took it down?”

    No. I’m sorry but I did not…….

    Re. your 7:59 commment earlier: fwiw, when i said ‘black’, in that instant i was speaking of the dark black wintry landscapes i alluded to a moment earlier, though I DO agree with what you said about America and its influence by and reckoning with The Blues, as referenced in the musical vein. Very much so; i could go on re. that topic; i think it makes for the biggest distinction between white Americans and white Europeans, etc.

  57. ***The Blues…i think it makes for the biggest distinction between white Americans and white Europeans, etc.***

    nikcrit- an interesting theory. We obviously belong to different generations, and I’d say the distinction for a while shifted to a reckoning with hip hop. This fleeting movement, however much one avoided it, burrowed into one’s blood by way of unflinching proximity.

    The foundational rhythms and possibilities weren’t composite enough to evolve this seedling into a forest, or even a landscape garden. In truth, recording equipment itself swallowed the chocolate carnival whole and spat it onto the expired altar of techno. Tomorrow never knows,,,

  58. Suburban_elk, thank you for the D&D assessments that have me highest in wisdom and second in humor. Who am I to argue with the rankings! Now I’m going to find something stupid and unfunny to say so I can see if it lowers my rankings.

  59. I’ve never been a big fan of classic blues. It feels very samey to me, tediously repetitious. I can’t really listen to a lot of blues at a sitting. And it’s my esteemed white boy opinion that whitey took the blues and simply did it vastly better than any black man ever did. Where are there better blues songs then the covers on the “Layla” album? And the single greatest transmogrification of tedious blues into something earth shattering is Led Zeppelin’s “When the Levee Breaks.”

    That said, I really like Mississippi John Hurt. But his light, acoustic touch and his ethereal voice are sui generis.

  60. Entertainment is peripheral in the grand scheme of things.

    “War is the organizing principle of society, Mr Garrison.” – Mr X, in JFK

    However it might be noted that art and entertainment are different things. Exactly what is art, is not an easy question. It is more of a process than a thing that can be pointed to.

    But it is not frivolous, at all. Things like music and storytelling are essential for quality of life, without which there is no point to living, and no joy and no happiness and no vigor and no vitality and no future.

    Why don’t we just eat pellets of processed rabbit-meat, for instance. Instead we insist on making it into something nice. Either way it is the same calories and (more or less) the same nutrients.

    The joy that a good meal brings, or a the process of making music and listening to stories or whatever it is that does it for ya — those things are necessary to inspire the zest that makes a man willing to go out and live with some savior faire and try and get the best girl. And have better children, and then they can do the same and continue to be beautiful.

    Without art and its learning disabled halfwit cousin, entertainment, that doesn’t happen. Without art and entertainment its just processed rabbit pellets.

  61. The standard arrangements of the classic Blues are, for lack of a better word, genius.

    Midnight Special, for instance. If there is one song, that is the best song from America, it might that. John Fogerty has a live version fairly recent, available on youtube. John Fogerty is white, of course, and wasn’t he from California. So that is ironic, but it makes sense because America used to be someplace.

    But the song itself is about longing and release, from this dreary life and these rusty chains. The simple blacks who wrote it and sang it, back in the day — were not being metaphorical, because we used to lock em up for whistling at white women. Or so they say …

  62. Charlie Patton owned the blues just as Washington, Jefferson, et al owned the slaves. The rest was details

  63. “But it makes sense because America used to be someplace.”

    I really like that line.

    Agree with you on the Creedence version of “Midnight Special” being, well, special. John Fogerty was an oddball case. Born in Bezerkley, CA, he wrote songs that sounded like he grew up in the Louisiana swamplands. Amazing transformation.

    In any case, for about two years Creedence was the undisputed greatest American rock band, and they have a very good shot at still keeping that title even though they didn’t last very long. Incredibly, in one year (1969) they released three perfect American rock albums, and the next one in 1970 was perfect as well. Four perfect albums in 18 months. Then the next two were merely very good, and then it was over.

    And of course they were ripped off by their degenerate Jewish record company owner, but that’s another story.

  64. I love that music, and credit is due.

    I have had to come to terms with that. With race realism and at the same time, some obligation to the contributions that black Americans have made to this culture.

    It can’t just be brushed aside. I would like to see black and white Americans as allies. It would seem that they would be perfect allies, in this fight. Some sort of poetic symmetry.

    Blacks are as fucked up, in their own special way, as Williams Syndrom whites.

    Somehow — just as with white people — their Voice has been usurped and commandeered by self-interested hustlers. That is the way of the world, but that makes it all the more important for intelligent people of good will to try and talk some sense.

    As for practical advice to race real white reading this. I can say that blacks respect real talk. It is not respectful to go around and call em niggers. Though that is good for a joke or two.

    It is too bad that WHITES, and rather not jews, can’t use niggers as their shock troops.

  65. It can’t just be brushed aside. I would like to see black and white Americans as allies.

    I say take a look at any Western Country, and compare to any sub-saharan African Country. There’d probably be some closer similarity if any true alliance could be realistic.

  66. Texas has a good race-real tonic figured out. If the bulk of that meanly peculiar no man’s land ever becomes fully racist at the deepest crux, the U.S. of A. will be morgue-stamped, dead or alive

  67. “And it’s my esteemed white boy opinion that whitey took the blues and simply did it vastly better than any black man ever did.”

    (Sigh). Peterike, y’know I love ya —– but this bit of diaherreic bluster is going to come back and bite you in the ass sooner than later.

    Utter nonsense tends to do that to you; repent now while you can! lol!!

  68. “Texas has a good race-real tonic figured out. If the bulk of that meanly peculiar no man’s land ever becomes fully racist at the deepest crux, the U.S. of A. will be morgue-stamped, dead or alive”

    Could you elaborate, please? Or say it again sans some of the metaphorics? I’m genuinely interested in the proposition, and have noticed a sorta unique quality to Texas’ racial stance myself, but i can’t quite wrap my head around your earlier observation.

  69. Certain initiated Mexicans, Blacks, and Whites have a quite subtle understanding in Texas. If you didn’t take root there, I’m afraid you’ll remain estranged from that singular and very southern ‘language’ afloat in those parts. It refuses to be imitated, and likely plays hide and seek with God himself. Not to fret, the world is still young.

  70. ” (Sigh). Peterike, y’know I love ya —– but this bit of diaherreic bluster is going to come back and bite you in the ass sooner than later. Utter nonsense tends to do that to you; repent now while you can! lol!!”

    Just one man’s opinion! What can I tell you. I find the blues booorrrriiinnnnnggg. I only enjoy it when it’s rock-ized by whitey. There’s a lot of black music that white people claim is great great great that leaves me cold. Like James Brown, Al Green and that dead guy Prince. Dull, dull, dull. But that’s just me. On the other hand, I’m a big fan of early Motown and smooth 70s black soul/pop. And those Earth,Wind & Fire guys — awesome!

  71. The Blues got commercialized.

    A documentary on Crackle, Echoes ‘cross the Tracks, with an arch nemesis Morgan Freeman.

    I am not American, without their music.

  72. Point me to a white alternative to the Blues, please.

    Please please please please please.

    Where is it. Please please please please please.

    **************

    You have to give credit where it’s due.

    White people couldn’t even sing their own songs.

  73. As Benvenuto Cellini pointed out, some men are destined for much higher arts than music. You still must let the chillins play though. Without a good tune, life would indeed be a mistake

  74. “Point me to a white alternative to the Blues, please.”

    If you mean white people playing the blues, then this.

    If you mean white people doing something instead of the blues, a white blues, then this.

  75. ***Such as…..?***

    “Rembrandt painted 700 pictures. Of these, 3,000 are still in existence.”
    -Wilhelm von Bode

  76. EPG — don’t get too esoteric.

    MGE — i didn’t forget about you, in the D&D ratings; be glad you wudn’t mentioned.

    Realistically, guys. This shit is crazy.

  77. PA will never have an open thread again. (Get that alcohol up in ya, son.)

    My bad. Continue on.

    The human condition. People suffering. Loneliness, frustration. No sex, no love.

  78. The blues are alright.

    But part of the reason they exist is because blacks always struggle with daily life in complex societies, thus they’re always “singing the blues.”

  79. A lyric from Dylan,

    When i am gone
    you will remember my name
    I’m gonna win my way
    to wealth and fame

    Vox proscribes songlyrics … but this isn’t his blog.

    PA has done a good job, simply already he has made a mark.

  80. Back before things got messed up, the blacks in Minnesota were the better sort. They were self-selected.

    (Self-selection is A Huge Concept.)

    Now it is Somalis getting dropped off the transport plane?!

    ***********

    Let’s drop off 50 thousand Somalis here, and take care of them? Whose idea was that.

    You have no idea, what they are like, without first-hand experience. I like and admire them … for being first-rate criminals. Hey, anyone need an untraced firearm? get to know the Africans on the street.

    50 thousand is probably an under-estimate by a factor of four or five.

    My childhood best friend, married a Somali. This guy was a white man reject. Blond hair, good athlete — but not good enough for his father.

  81. The Somalis are like the physical jews. They have that will to live. If you don’t live near them, you don’t know em.

    They are competitors. WINNERS.

    They are the LAST people you want to import into your living space. If there is one people you don’t want to struggle and mess with, it’s them.

  82. But part of the reason they exist is because blacks always struggle with daily life in complex societies, thus they’re always “singing the blues.”

    Black people have a gorilla intelligence that we can learn from and admire.

    They are good on the basketball court, and the guitar — but their average SAT math score is 410.

    What do we do with them? They can’t even organize themselves, beyond telling what farm they was from.

    “Hey i’m Miller’s, what bout you?”

  83. ***You have no idea, what they are like, without first-hand experience.***

    The life of a pirate
    is the only life.
    The tides’ navy-blue cockpit
    deflowers the weather’s wife

  84. Hendrix finally had his eyes on the classical in his final days… was talking of writing symphonies and that sort of thing… even the muses didn’t foresee this, and were forced to kill him off… actual WINGS apparently reserved for a later stage of man’s somatic development

  85. Well, regardless of who invented, perfected or adopted the blues it may be only whites that keep the blues tradition going. The younger generation of blacks has pretty narrow tastes and could care less about the blues or any other music involving live instrumentation.

    They want the new Hip Hop with drum machines, heavy sampling and auto tune. They don’t even know classic soul any more – when the late James Brown or Curtis Mayfield passed no blacks under 45 even cared, or noticed.

  86. “Tell that to this guy”

    Indeed! See, Hendrix could rockify the blues. Which maybe is my point. The more rock-ized ya blues is, the more I likes ’em.

    In any case, Camlost is right that it’s white fanbois keeping the blues (barely) alive. Jazz as well. How many black people listen to jazz any more? Are blacks not very nostalgic? They don’t seem, by and large, to care about past things, other than grievances that happened decades ago. Those never die.

  87. I find that even the more legit hip-hop is, sadly, largely supported by “white fanbois.” I bet that’s why Outkast stopped touring. The bulk of darkies are drowning in auto tune. No different with whitey, at least in America. This won’t last. It’s a transitional period in the truest sense

  88. I find that even the more legit hip-hop is, sadly, largely supported by “white fanbois.” I bet that’s why Outkast stopped touring.

    Outkast broke up because Andre didn’t want to do the same type of rap crap forever, talking about the same profane stuff for which Southern rap is known. They just grew apart musically, and he also wanted to do some acting. Once Andre reached the level of fame where he could speak candidly he never really liked the direction that rap was heading, and on my occasions he expressed some guilt at the artificial nature of the industry, with so many performers who sample liberally, don’t write songs, play instruments or even know how to read music.

    Plus, the nature of rap today is that the highly crossover and extremely young fan base is quite fickle and doesn’t mature along with that artist’s evolving sound.

    BTW, Big Boi is in my same bowling league, he’s a pretty decent bowler. He’s a lot shorter looking in person.

  89. ***Big Boi is in my same bowling league…***

    Bowling. Like white sunglasses, you must be a real gangster to pull it off right. But let’s not dodge the facts — Andre was way out of Big Boi’s league. Andre reps the straight track & field; Big Boi is bowling par exellence

  90. Bowling. Like white sunglasses, you must be a real gangster to pull it off right.

    I’m not that good, I throw a straight ball. But it’s fun to drink and play in co-ed leagues, though.

    And I’ve always been under the impression that bowling is a virtual religion up in Williams country, after seeing it talked about so reverentially in episodes of Laverne & Shirley.

  91. “And I’ve always been under the impression that bowling is a virtual religion up in Williams country, after seeing it talked about so reverentially in episodes of Laverne & Shirley.”

    Just yesterday, I happened to be driving by the Bowling Hall of Fame; we’re still plenty ‘Williams Syndrome”-like here in Brewtown, but it’s quite contained to the southern reaches of the city and the adjoining ‘burbs in that direction. THAT’S what they were signifying in all those episodes of Happy Days and Laverne & Shirley, but that’s a small part…….Those shows were both a source of pride and embarassment at times.

  92. THAT’S what they were signifying in all those episodes of Happy Days and Laverne & Shirley, but that’s a small part…….Those shows were both a source of pride and embarassment at times.

    Seems like a jolly place to me, I”m pretty sure that the upper midwest, like Milwaukee and Chicago, still lead the USA in the number of neighborhood bars per capita. Down here we just don’t much of a neighborhood bar culture of “everybody knows your name” and your barmates are your main social structure. In fact, it can be hard to even get a drink of alcohol in vast areas down South due to dry counties, Sunday blue laws, and complete state control of liquor stores (meaning that they are few and far between).

  93. I’d laugh my ass off if Trump flipped it on EVERYBODY and embarked on a militant prohibition campaign. Those craft beer spergs out west and others would be more disoriented than baby deer in headlights

  94. “In any case, Camlost is right that it’s white fanbois keeping the blues (barely) alive.”

    No need to tell me; in fact, during my music-beat time at a daily, that and the same re. jazz was often featured in my articles. For blues, you’re all but unanimously correct while jazz audiences are still more than tokenly integrated. But either way the thrust of your point is certainly en route to the truth.

    I lament America falling off its jazz tradition. I won’t get on the cultural historian high-horse but talk about disdaining your own unique culture and its traditions? I mean, what else do we got to show for the ages here musically and to give it up out of sheer neglect? Well, that speaks volumes to a lot of other laments one hears about this country and its priorities, many of which sounded off regularly here.

    I recall a few idiots at CH”s site arguing with me about jazz-vs-classical music and it’s relative weight in the larger arts canons in western history; they were smugly dissing Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington as if it was mere obvious and self-evident truth, while saying they don’t compare to figures like Mahler and Mozart, etc., basically in their half-assed way making the oft-heard view that classical is ‘deeper’ than that frivolous jazz or whatever. Point is, I just laugh those arguments off and am amused because they invariably believe that, since I’m a “NAM,’ i’m not familiar with their ignorance about classical music and they can make some comically rote and faulty points about without being called out! lol!!

    I mean, where do you start in retorting to such stupidity? Apples-vs-organges anyone? And never mind some of the greatest and most renowned classical composers and musicians themselves, both here and in Europe, would be the first to herald the ‘classical’ greatness and importance of a figure and icon such as Armstrong. I mean, JFC, Louis Armstrong was a gift from God man! How do you even begin to measure his humongous influence on American music and sentiment?

  95. ***…Louis Armstrong was a gift from God man!***

    I’m no negro apologist; I pay them some proper homage by blazing my personal psycho-geographic- and blood-dictated path. But I’d likely go to real battle with a man like Louis Armstrong well before The Donald. Armstrong speaks to those who can hear, and he doesn’t fuck around. America is mean — and Armstrong fit that bill in proper form.

    As for Miles Davis, he was a feral jockey himself — but where was he taking that horse? Jazz was headed for the cliff side from the get-go. Impaired while leading at the Kentucky Derby. A suicide mission. Armstrong kept his powers in check, like the classical masters are taught to from a very young age… Dvorak recognized the potential in dabbling in such influences:

    “In the negro melodies of America I discover all that is needed for a great and noble school of music. They are pathetic, tender, passionate, melancholy, solemn, religious, bold, merry, gay or what you will. It is music that suits itself to any mood or any purpose. There is nothing in the whole age of composition that cannot be supplied with themes from this source.”

    I myself would disagree, but still know where he’s coming from. And I have a lot of respect for Dvorak.

  96. John Coltrane was also “outdone” by his wife Alice. Any genre in which that can occur is highly dubious, mayne…

  97. “I myself would disagree, but still know where he’s coming from.”

    Yes, I’m guessing that in that moment of genuine and accurate tribute (i.e., Dvorak’s above quote re. Armstrong), that last sentence was more in spirit than letter-perfect accuracy; a more primitive and less-developed linguistic culture is not going to boast the same level of musical composition as a more developed one —— or, for that matter, a more-developed sense of composition, period.

    But that takes nothing away from Armstrong’s genius, his musical brilliance and his capturing the American zeitgeist with grace and (as you note) restraint —— in line with his European fellow masters.

    I felt your comment really nailed it; it’s a peril of our times to conflate aesthetic assessment with poltiical stance and conviction, however unnecessary the impulse; thanks for bypassing the urge.

  98. I’ll drop some knowledge in the sphere of music: Goethe saw Beethoven coming, and treated him like a plantation negro approaching his hidden art collection. He was supremely worried, and foresaw a lot of serious damage being done. Serious, serious damage. I’ll leave it at that.

  99. “John Coltrane was also “outdone” by his wife Alice. Any genre in which that can occur is highly dubious, mayne…”

    I don’t put Coltrane on the same mantle as Armstrong or other linchpin jazz players from the era directly preceding Coltrane’s —– but I do accept his mythology as a format transgressor and give it some due acknowledgement and reaction. I had all but forgotten about Alice Coltrane; actually, another commenter here, Thwack, mentioned her in a post a few months back. Ditto for Miles Davis, even his trangressing period in the late 70s and early 80s; i thought that new Cheadle movie on Miles, a fantastical encapsulated history of that period, was an interesting two hours. Thumbs up, 3.5 stars!!

  100. PA, what’s up with the ‘awaiting moderation’ hold on my 10:15 comment? Did I inadvertently put in some odd command in the formatting?

  101. “John Coltrane was also “outdone” by his wife Alice. Any genre in which that can occur is highly dubious, mayne…”

    I don’t put Coltrane on the same mantle as Armstrong or other linchpin jazz players from the era directly preceding Coltrane’s —– but I do accept his mythology as a format transgressor and give it some due acknowledgement and reaction. I had all but forgotten about Alice Coltrane; actually, another commenter here, Twack, mentioned her in a post a few months back. Ditto for Miles Davis, even his trangressing period in the late 70s and early 80s; i thought that new Cheadle movie on Miles, a fantastical encapsulated history of that period, was an interesting two hours. Thumbs up, 3.5 stars!!

  102. Thwack got banned. I liked his analogy for playing the guitar, to riding a big wave, and the crest.

    Also, what happened with Heretic Phi. He wised up and left.

  103. You mean we have to die?

    The Longest Day of the Year.

    How will you celebrate?

    … tell me. I swim the River, every year. That messed up, dirty sludgy silt drained river. I once went down there in the Snow and the cops got me (paging Jack Kerouac).

    We immortalize ourselves with these words. It’s pretty gay but worth a laugh.

  104. I am also on mod, Trickin.

    No longer; my last comment was the one that kept going into ‘mod’—— until i figured out what trip word was sending it there. I then merely changed a single character in that word and walla!

    Figure it out. Even I did.

  105. Speaking of the blues, Les Blank made a great 30 minute documentary about Lightnin’ Hopkins in the late 60s. The entire doc used to be on You Tube, although that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. But here’s a one minute scene featuring Hopkins playing Lonnie Mack’s “Memphis” at a Saturday night party to a receptive audience. Mack is white, by the way:

    A couple years ago I drove from New Orleans to Memphis on Bob Dylan’s Highway 61. Parts of the Mississippi Delta don’t seem to have changed much since the Lightnin’ Hopkins days. Of course I stopped at the crossroads in Clarksdale and snapped a few pics.

    Speaking of Creedence Clearwater Revival, Les Blank and CCR occupied the same neighborhood: Berkeley and more specifically, El Cerrito. The East Bay may seem an unlikely destination for American roots music, but there it is.

    http://www.sfgate.com/music/article/Bay-Area-independent-label-Arhoolie-Records-7448540.php

  106. war is ghastly; no, it’s not going away

    The Archdruid is hit and miss — he won’t touch race with a ten-foot pole — but his column last week is a dead-on nail, re progress.

    That is a big theme, for me — bigger than racism. Progress, and how we fail.

  107. NBA finals update. Steph Curry’s father in law gets temporarily mistaken who uses fake credentials to access high-level sporting events, she immediately tweets about “racial profiling”:

  108. It is scary. You ought to be afraid.

    Respect your Enemies.

    The best description of combat was probably Frank Herbert.

    ************

    That is how we are redressed. You think white people are mistaken weak and limp-dicked? you have no idea they are spoiing.

  109. ***…but I do accept his mythology as a format transgressor…***

    Jazz was more reactionary than anything I’d say. Sloppy voo-doo with a brass cape. I’ve heard a bit of the real ‘Classick’ Egypt — straight from the age of the pyramids — that might give Albert Ayler & Co. some thick nightmares. It packs a real punch, without the delinquencies of skirmishing the sax, etc.

    If Dvorak dug deeper into the black fog, he’d have emerged with some much fiercer jewels than American gospels and their gingered-up variations

  110. The aim is always bolder life, music is just a supplement. No musicians, even so-called rock stars, have understood this except Percy Grainger

  111. Was Art Tatum a racist? LIke Scriabin, he was far too rude for ANY race. The races themselves will never catch up to the proven heavyweights

  112. “Look, you come in here tomorrow, and anything you do with your right hand I’ll do with my left.” –Art Tatum

    That’s the America I’d spill blood for. Tough crowds are mere is tumbleweeds for any ‘Reel Gee.’

  113. “Are blacks not very nostalgic? They don’t seem, by and large, to care about past things,”

    The above quote was from peterike in re. to blacks and their tastes and values in terms of pop culture.

    Along the lines of peterike’s quote, I read and interesting academic journal article a while back in which it was suggested that the contemporary adult-black generation is the first to have a ‘positive’ or at least a non-heavily qualified generational memory or collective sense of ‘nostalgia,’ which it was then proposed was a cultural equanimity on-par with white ethnic generations that could dissipate a major pillar of the American racial divide….

    Yeah, I know…. but its tone wasn’t really pre-positioned or speculative; the article cited the movie ‘Crooklyn,’ a mainstream Spike Lee venture, which i never saw but read about; the piece noted that the marketing and projected appeal of that movie was dependent on blacks having a positive sense of nostalgia for the time-period the flick evoked, the early 70s and its focus on a east-coast black middle-class family.

    Pretty decent article; it lacked the usual presuppositions and tactics of race-oriented academic in contemporary times.

  114. Black people are very nostalgic about dancing, that’s for sure.

    Any time you have more than 3 older black folks in one place it won’t be long before they start reminiscing on whatever old trendy dance they did in high school or way back in the day. Without fail.

    White folks tend to talk nostalgically about lines of dialogue from movies or TV shows like The Simpsons.

  115. “Are blacks not very nostalgic? They don’t seem, by and large, to care about past things,”

    The above quote was from peterike in re. to blacks and their tastes and values in terms of pop culture.

    Along the lines of peterike’s quote, I read an interesting academic journal article a while back in which it was suggested that the contemporary adult-black generation is the first to have a ‘positive’ or at least a non-heavily qualified generational memory of ‘nostalgia,’ which it was then proposed was a cultural equanimity on-par with white ethnic generations that could dissipate a major pillar of the American racial divide….

    Yeah, I know…. but its tone wasn’t really pre-positioned or speculative; the article cited the movie ‘Crooklyn,’ a mainstream Spike Lee venture which i never saw but read about; the piece noted that its marketing and projected appeal was dependent on blacks having a positive sense of nostalgia for the time-period evoked, the early 70s and its focus on a east-coast black middle-class family.

    Pretty decent article; it lacked the usual presuppositions and tactics of race-oriented academia in contemporary times.

  116. “Black people are very nostalgic about dancing, that’s for sure.”

    That’s true!
    True story: I was on a chartered bus trip from Alabama to Chattanooga as part of a paternal family reunion; i was in my 20s at the time and was among the few younger folks onboard this all-black,venture (avg.age 70+) ——- and on the way back from the picnic and the trip to the aquarium, the whole bus was clapping along while about half those onboard were up and bumping and busting out moves to ……… “Fantastic Voyage,” by Coolio!”…… I kid you not! Lol!

    Now tell me that scenario would’ve gone down the way it did had the bus been filled with mainly white senior citizens!

  117. and on the way back from the picnic and the trip to the aquarium, the whole bus was clapping along while about half those onboard were up and bumping and busting out moves to ……… “Fantastic Voyage,” by Coolio!”…… I kid you not! Lol!

    My intuition is that the Napa Wine train “racial fiasco” of last year was of a similar vein – stodgy Northern California latte liberal, Obama-loving white folks who think that we all behave the same way in public and not understanding that it is unavoidable to have huge noise when you combine black people and alcohol. Thus they assumed those black ladies were causing commotion on purpose.

    If that happened down South the white folks would’ve seen that many black ladies together before even leaving the station and known to move to a new car or ask for a refund immediately if they truly valued silence.

  118. I was on a chartered bus trip from Alabama to Chattanooga as part of a paternal family reunion; i ——- and on the way back from the picnic and the trip to the aquarium

    That must’ve been a let down to charter a bus to go to that crappy aquarium.

  119. “that must’ve been a let down to charter a bus to go to that crappy aquarium.”

    That event comprised one of the only two times i’d ever been to Chattanooga; i enjoyed it —— the picnic and the trip to the aquarium on adjacent grounds; of course, i don’t know jack re. ocean life and what makes for a ‘good aquarium,’ so i was pleased as punch by the event.
    C’mon man, you know the deal: bunch of church-sponsored reunion black folk from Birmingham rolling in and out of town? It’s about the folk, the food and the music —– bottled-nose dolphin habits and habitats be damned! Lol!!

    Seriously tho, i had good times in Chattanooga; my one other trip there was to do a story on some country-swing artists; that trip, i actually got out to some of the clubs and bars there, downtown and along the river. Very charming, for a up-north city boy such as myself.

    If it wasn’t for that God-awful humidity, I’d even consider going back there again! 🙂

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  120. ***…it is unavoidable to have huge noise when you combine black people and alcohol.***

    Pass a nog a couple Buchanan’s on the rocks, they’ll pass out right on your vinyl collection. Slide one a single Tanqueray, they’ll sustain a shameless karaoke in your alley for a fortnight

  121. Pass a nog a couple Buchanan’s on the rocks, they’ll pass out right on your vinyl collection. Slide one a single Tanqueray, they’ll sustain a shameless karaoke in your alley for a fortnight

    Having spent some time bartending, I can tell you that they don’t drink scotch too much. That’s for sippers with patience and taste – the stereotype about their affinity for fruity drinks is as true as all other stereotypes. I’m sure their consumption of tanqueray quintupled after “Gin and Juice” hit the airwaves, though. As did their consumption of Cristal and Courvoisier after certain hip hop songs mentioned them.

  122. Whatever gets you through the night

    It’s alright, it’s alright

    Whatever gets you through your life

    It’s alright, it’s alright

    — John Lennon is a mixed review character, around here

    What do you think of him?

    His song Imagine, is taken out of context. In the Times that he was living, it was a different song.

  123. Camlost, you were a bartender? Did you cut me off?

    Around here, you (as in the general you) can’t even drink.

    Williams Syndrome faggot whites.

    That is how i address the town council meeting.

    My deers, my friends, my Williams Syndrome whites. Hear me know, i’ve something to say.

    What do you want for your children?

    Listen up. What do you want for your children?

  124. I shoulda been in the South.

    Pulled into Nazareth …

    All the rivers run to the Sea
    We all goin there
    you an me

    Dolphins and fish
    my friends
    Starfish and shells

  125. Seriously, The Beatles’ best moment came in an impromptu rendition of House of the Rising Sun. In that regard, they’re no different from any other idealistic kids of that era. They played with fire, but never walked on it like various groups in Fiji and other more intrepid mortals

  126. What looks good in the day, at night is another thing
    We were English once, and white, and forbearing
    But those days are gone
    That is what she said

    This Life is a sad thing
    Look at the green plants
    and the birds with their red heads
    sad sad story

    Tell me something
    anything
    Waiting around, for someone to tell you

  127. Giant hostas and switchback grass
    Green and pale and like the sea

    Eagles are in the sky
    how they fly
    free and high
    in the sky

    A grizzly bear
    comes round here
    it’s black or brown
    it’s white and it fights

  128. Camlost, you were a bartender? Did you cut me off?

    I’d give you doubles for free, rather than cut you off my friend.

    However, if you started talking too lovingly about the “bigness” of those Swedes… then I’d have Thordaddy put you out by the curb.

  129. OT: update on our recently featured SJW who dared to be white and sport dredlocks.

    He apparently sees dreads as a historically universal ethnic style and otherwise doesn’t disagree with the BF detractor he encountered!

    Y’know, I gotta say: I’m sometimes embarassed by some of the vids of black misbehavior posted here; I mean, i get the bigger picture but…. ‘of course, every now and then it’s a bit embarassing, etc.).

    But when i look at guys like the one in the above vid —– the SJW with dreads and wearing a skirt, showing fealty to feminist ethos, etc., I get embarassed for the white male too!

    Sometimes, you’d think the worst punishment you could do to some of these characters is, five years from now, force them to sit down and watch a video of themselves from today.

  130. clarification: fwiw, i should add that our dredlocked SJW didn’t really otherwise agree with the bf antagonist he encountered, or however i put it. Rather, he went out of his way to offer a detailed history of how dreds have graced the populations of many an ethnic culture. He didn’t much express his right to sport dreds regardless of ethnic bona fides, which is the route i think would be most prudent and foundational.

    But I don’t want to put my interpretation as fact; so maybe there’s hope for the boy yet..

  131. .***..dreads and wearing a skirt, showing fealty to feminist ethos, etc***

    Not all of them are ‘SJWs,’ but most brazenly concede to feminism. Throw your boots on — they’re the ones who killed rock and roll.

  132. * @et.al,
    I should note that the Ventura vid above was posted unintentionally. But I gave it a look after the fact-by-error and it feels sorta appropriate for this thread.

  133. FWIW,
    I think the whole ‘Williams Syndrome’ descriptive, as rendered here, is insulting and overly reductive, but it’s surely exemplified by Ventura’s dialect —— a sort-of open, vulnerable and overtly expressive and bemused quality.
    I think it’s charming and take umbrage with outsider critiques; by my Midwestern lights, beltway dialect, among the learned classes and not, is often overly harsh and canine-like in its edge and snap. Southern accent can be charming too IMO; thing about Midwestern drawl is it’s either ‘WS’-like a la Ventura or neutral to the point of being used as a national standard in the sense that national news and other form broadcasters tend to sound like they’re from Chicago —— the closest American-speech ‘norm’ or ‘template’ for national-caliber emulationo; Chicago dialect is a professionalized take of Midwestern drawl.

  134. Man, that vid I posted a bit upthread of the BBC coming to Milwaukee to explicate ‘white privilege’ is something else; it’s almost like what a parody created here would be like…..funny thing is, they went to neighborhoods and downtown areas that aren’t really that exclusively white; i could’ve given ’em better exemples! lol! ……. the ‘racial justice director’ from the local YWCA is straight out of Central Casting…

  135. Man, that vid I posted a bit upthread of the BBC coming to Milwaukee to explicate ‘white privilege’ is something else; it’s almost like what a parody created here would be like

    Nikcrit – it’s such a shame that liberals have chosen to coddle blacks with this type of therapeutic garbage. and let’s face it, the majority of this nonsense comes from virtue signaling white women who get high off the feels. the YWCA schoolmarm in that video is a good example the apparatchiks who promote this stuff. who is benefitting from this I will never know. I’m less inclined to believe it is a (((conspiracy))) but more of an organic process that results from the moral confusion of living in a secular, liberal society.

    The whole SJW memeplex has become so pervasive that I fear most people are incapable of rational thought regarding some very important issues confronting W. civilization. For example in the past week I have been called “racist” several times by supposedly educated people when I have attempted to engage in frank discussions about Islam. When I pointed out the obvious fact that Islam is not a race, but a religion, and therefore a set of ideas that can be rightly critiqued just as any other set of ideas, I am called an “Islamaphobe.”

    Now since you made me watch that atrocity, I urge you to please listen to the following excerpt from Sam Harris’ podcast regarding the Orlando massacre. He basically elucidates what I have been attempting to say for years, but with an eloquence and clarity I could only aspire to.

  136. O.T.: I’ve been wanting to bring this up for a while, though I suppose it’s a rather trifling matter; its just weird in that it’s seems gratuitously added yet so anti-p.c.:

    I’m talking about the recent ‘drivers app’ for All-State insurance add featuring the black female comic Leslie Jones.

    Check out what she says to the white male in the car next to hers at the 00:09 second mark:

    What’s up with that? She offers her number in a self-deprecating way, as if she’s taken to heart PA’s and Cam’s treatises on black-female SMV; meanwhile, the male driver seems to quickly grimace then drive-off, perhaps a bit heatedly; all of this takes place so quick, one can’t easily process all this during the initial intake —– or be sure of what to make of it, even after more rueful deliberation.

    Maybe it ain’t shite, but i thought it was interesting —– this possibility of bf self-deprecation, because, however hum-drum, I can’t recall ever seeing something else like this; not one exception.

    Weird? Interesting? Or some ado about nothing?

  137. Check out what she says to the white male in the car next to hers at the 00:09 second mark:

    Well, regardless of what I say about black female SMV, you’re just going to retort by posting a picture of Stacey Dash and then announcing hope that proves me wrong, correct? 🙂

    But in the commercial notice how the white guy is a very plain everyman, and looks down in deference and as if intimidated by her request. That made it ok. Him whipping his eyes away haughtily would’ve been too “massa” like and wouldn’t be allowed.

  138. If one is a radically liberated high IQ “jewhite,” what is your next maximizing move?

    wS…

  139. Regarding Leslie Jones (classic black name) and her commercial debut.

    She offers her number in a self-deprecating way

    Her approach with the guy in the next car is not self-deprecating, it is aggressive. Her voice is lowered and her delivery sharp and hard. The guy does not actually look down, though he does flinch and look away. So their sex roles are reversed.

    At the end of the commercial and by way of contrast — her feminine side. She is stranded at the side of the road and her white guy insurance man to the rescue. Note her manners then, “You must be Jerry, hi.” The inflection on the word hi is this black woman’s version of showing her feminine side.

    As for why it is funny, the actor herself is clearly quite aware of her awkward position but isn’t gonna let that stop her. Rather than be a bitter bitch, like many big aggressive black woman — she makes jokes and apparently is successful at it.

    The commercial does not flip the script. But it does show a realistic portrayal of how aggressive black woman who like white “guys” navigate the meatspace.

  140. Good comment thread at Sailer’s,

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/immigration-and-schmaltz/

    “A strikingly recurrent pattern is just how low-brow and schmaltzy is Establishment discussion of immigration policy.

    [Example of MSM bolus courtesy of The Atlantic]

    It’s cognitively painful to read this kind of junior high school level of emoting over and over.”

    At that level of discussion, at pretentious places where people are good liberals and stupid strivers — the whole tone, the whole conversational enchilada, is very feminine. Everyone wants to be a good little (and popular!) junior high girl, and there are no hard men to give it to em.

    It is no new observation, that Liberalism is feminine.

  141. As long as this is an open thread, for those of you who need their material summarized in video form, i found this helpful on the the reaction to the Brexit,

    It is Molyneux and a Brit named Watson who is with Infowars.

    The British political class is pushing hard for a second referendum, which goes to the larger point that this recent victory is, as Churchill said, not the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning.

    As long as the Globalist political structure has any influence, it will not stop or relinquish a damn thing; except perhaps as a strategic concession.

    I have recently noticed that observation come to the fore in less hard-right venues: that they are not going to give it back to us. Our national sovereignty will not be returned willingly. And on the local level, neither will our living space. It will have to be taken back, by force of whatever means.

    That is an obvious conclusion that i think most of those on the hard-right don’t need to hear for the umpteenth time. But it is a frightening one for the rabbits, and at their webspace or meatspace wherever it until very recently it has not been utterable. But now it is.

    Things are proceeding according to plan …

  142. Per the commercial… Every instance of media, even the advertising of global insurance companies, must be seen through the frame of radical sexual autonomy and the propagation thereof… What Elk articulated as “role-reversal.” But the initial query and reaction was of a “black” bull dyke asking an absurd question of an unassuming and bewildered white male. So the media brainwashing wasn’t in the idea of a heterosexual black female propositioning a clearly uninterested white male in what amounts to a miscegnating role-reversal, but rather, to establish the REALITY OF A flummoxed and timid BEARDED “white” male in the face of “black bull dyke.” It’s a radicalization of the liberated notion that alpha = anti-alpha = devout dyke = “black” bull dyke.

    The brainwashing is in convincing a dull “white” mass that “black” bull dyke IS truly ALPHA.

    The infamous, “haaaay,” at the end just slaps one back to unreality and the idea that this is all just the ordinary push for insurance with a funny twist of “equality.”

  143. And of course, “black” bull dyke STARTS the commercial with “man” as an expression of exasperation… This subtle psychological suggestiveness has been with “us” for a long time.

    Man IS exasperating!

  144. OT: New commercial for Target.

    Question for regular commenters here: Is this a p.c.-driven quest and indoctrination? Or is it just prudent market-driven commerce?

    Or is it both?

    (I’m thinking this is sort-of new territory; can’t recall any other major company being this out-the-closet in terms of its target-audience within a given ad).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2760963/We-just-family-Two-gay-fathers-son-star-new-Target-ad-campaign-representing-diversity.html

  145. The Target culture dominates the western half of the Minneapolis Skyways. Lunch hour there is a fag parade.

    But the joke is that for the most part, those guys, are not actually homos, they dress like em. The metro(sexual) thing is nothing new, and they don’t it that anymore, but it is about the best example of the de-balled urban american white man.

    They might as well call him the Target Man. The checkered collared shirts, elaborate color scheming, “playful” glasses, blah blah blah blah. It’s never enough to appease … whatever it is they are trying to appease … their fathers perhaps? / hahaha.

  146. You could do a comic strip of someone asking an SJW if they ever meet a black as smart as seen on TV. Then link to the story of Asians with perfect SATs suing Harvard because they couldn’t get in but found a black girl with a 2.5 GPA & 22MCAT score got a free ride

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