Selections, Part 1

I took that photo last year while vacationing on the Albemarle Sound. It’s one of the few places on the U.S. east coast where you can watch the sun set over the water.

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Thordaddy’s statement on raising a son has been one of the more memorable comments here:

My philosophy to my boys is such…
Put your mind on objective Supremacy.
Train your upper body as though you are to be crucified.
And work that lower body as though you were to be a beast of burden.

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Zbigniew Preisner, Song for the Unification of Europe: the linked video is the choral finale to Krzysztof Kieślowski’s film Bleu, the first installment of his three-color trilogy. A self-taught musician, Preisner collaborated with Kieślowski for years, writing scores for his films.

In Blue, Juliette Binoche’s character loses her husband, who is a famous composer, and their son in a car accident. The plot is about her coming to peace with what happened, including finding out about her late husband’s now-destitute mistress carrying his child. The above-linked video appears just before the closing credits. The chorus performs the verses from 1 Corinthians 13 in the original Greek. Notable moments in the linked video, as I see them:

2:00 – Our awakening
2:30 – Our past
3:15 – Our present
3:40 – Our future

After Kieślowski’s untimely passing in 1996 (he died during heart surgery at the age of 54), Preisner compiled his newer compositions into an album titled A Requiem for my Friend, on which Lacrimosa is the best-known piece.

I bought that CD in 1999 and played it, along with Mozart’s Requiem and an hours-long Techno compilation on my drives between Boston and Maryland. There is no road quite like Merritt Parkway at midnight.

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Mac Davis, Baby Baby, Don’t Get Hooked on Me.

Girl you’re a hot blooded woman, child,
and it’s warm where you’re touching me.
But I can tell by your tremblin’ smile,
you’re seeing way too much in me.
Girl don’t let your life get tangled up with mine,
’cause I’ll just leave you, I can’t take no clinging vine.

 

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277 thoughts on “Selections, Part 1

  1. Out of state people who come to the NC coast typically choose Nags Head. That’s my guess.

  2. “A self-taught musician”

    That distinction of being self-taught is meh.

    [for rock guitarists. not so much for classical composers — PA]

    Because the process of learning any complex skill is done in some parts alone and in other parts with help. No one is learning entirely alone. Even if just listening to records is learning from others.

    Mac Davis. That guy has a very particular look. Old British Isles?

  3. “No one is learning entirely alone. Even if just listening to records is learning from others”

    Yeah, very true; my friends and I were talking about this the other day: when we started playing guitar, in middle school, LPs still mainly prevailed and we would mess up our vinyl playing bits over and over in trying to learn the guitar parts; actually, we considered the accessibility of cassette tape a revolutionary breakthrough; reel tape was unwieldy but now finally there was a way to pinpoint exact points of a song and mark them AND, most importantly, not mess up your copy of the album in trying to replay certain parts to learn from.

    Now all these young slowhands not only have free copies of the song; they can manipulate the speed of the playback more easily —– but most of all they have youtube tutorials that explicitly explain how to play the songs and demonstrate the task through playbacks, graphs and live tablature marking the parts; it’s much, much easier to learn guitar playing tricks nowadays; in fact, the art has been popularized to the point in which playing flawless guitar no longer has anywhere near the youth culture cachet it once did….. back in teh day, if you could play, say, Stairway to Heaven flawlessly during an interlude at the local keg party, you’d find yourself getting laid for sure!

  4. There is not enough of a common culture anymore, to support that spontaneous music.

    Back then in the 60s and 70s, so i hear, you could go down the park with your guitar and start of revolution.

    Now you need a gun.

  5. I wanted to be a flower child, but it turned out there wasn’t a market for it?

    That is what Nicole, a goofy commentator at CH, would like to harp on, that white guys now had to accept the reality that blacks had been living with.

    We’re all niggers now, bitches.

    what’s-his-name here beats around the same bush, but i am reluctant to accept that description, of how it is for white people.

    I am reluctant to say that we’re all niggers now, and that what it is to be white, is similar to what it was to be black (back during the day).

    The similarities can be outlined on paper, and they can be salient. People deprived of their history. People deprived of their autonomy. People made into slaves.

    But it seems to me that the dissolution that white people get to feeling from that, is its own thing. Or at least it is its own thing, in this present moment: simply in how white people are not psychically equipped to handle this state of dispossession.

    Just thinking out loud.

    People absolutely have to live within a mythos. It might be said that a mythos defines a people more than blood.

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  7. Nags Head. That’s my guess.

    Close. Kill Devil Hills. That little island west of the Wright Brothers National Memorial.

  8. Great music.

    “…work that lower body as though you were to be a beast of burden.”

    Hill/mountain sprints, men. The harder you hit them, the quicker you’ll adapt. 2-3x a week, with weighted pistol squats, elevating in weight a bit each time. Can’t go wrong w/ this.

  9. That distinction of being self-taught is meh.

    [for rock guitarists. not so much for classical composers — PA]

    That seems a reasonable point. It implies that classical music is more difficult though, which is debatable.

    At some point complexity becomes more trouble than it is worth.

    The joke about “being self-taught” is worth exploring.

    I can’t get my fingers around it.

    There is this idea that some guy, some grand genius, just sat down with a guitar and created the world?

  10. Beautiful! Still, there’s nothing quite as gorgeous as a Southern California sunset, imo. Maybe along the FL Gulf Coast.

    The Merritt Parkway is beautiful at any time of the day!

  11. Every highway seems special when you’re alone, it’s night, and special music is playing.

    I used to like putting up my high beams to see into the distance and swerving my car wildly along the road to music. Then again, there was a time I also raced trucks in my beaten-up old Honda Accord. That was a game of death I managed to escape from. Ah, B.C.

    Like the website, PA. If someone can tell me how to do italics and bold print in comments, will you drop me a line at solonovelist@gmail.com.

    I’m still having trouble getting posts at heartiste.wordpress.com, although His Satiric Crimson Eminence did highlight one of my long postings in his comments section and discuss it, which was a kind of Internet honor, don’t you think?

    — Sorcerygod

  12. I have a few comments to make, and I’m going to try italicizing and bolding them.

    My first comment is that, cumulatively, whites remain by far the strongest civilizational force on the planet.

    Additionally, there remains significant nativist white sentiment among the non-liberal sectors of society, including the conservatives, the alt-right, and many of the so-called “independents.”

    There should be room for something to be done with all this potentiality.

    [commenting rule: stay on-topic under a new post. Thanks. –PA]

  13. “There is this idea that some guy, some grand genius, just sat down with a guitar and created the world?”

    That happened, and it was Jimi Hendrix. From da wiki:

    At Horace Mann Elementary School in Seattle during the mid-1950s, Hendrix’s habit of carrying a broom with him to emulate a guitar gained the attention of the school’s social worker. After more than a year of his clinging to a broom like a security blanket, she wrote a letter requesting school funding intended for underprivileged children, insisting that leaving him without a guitar might result in psychological damage. Her efforts failed, and Al refused to buy him a guitar.

    In 1957, while helping his father with a side-job, Hendrix found a ukulele amongst the garbage that they were removing from an older woman’s home. She told him that he could keep the instrument, which had only one string. Learning by ear, he played single notes, following along to Elvis Presley songs, particularly Presley’s cover of Leiber and Stoller’s “Hound Dog”. By the age of thirty-three, Hendrix’s mother Lucille had developed cirrhosis of the liver, and on February 2, 1958, she died when her spleen ruptured. Al refused to take James and Leon to attend their mother’s funeral; he instead gave them shots of whiskey and instructed them that was how men were supposed to deal with loss. In mid-1958, at age 15, Hendrix acquired his first acoustic guitar, for $5. He earnestly applied himself, playing the instrument for several hours daily, watching others and getting tips from more experienced guitarists, and listening to blues artists such as Muddy Waters, B.B. King, Howlin’ Wolf, and Robert Johnson.The first tune Hendrix learned how to play was the theme from Peter Gunn.

    The rest is history. If ever there was a sui generis musician, Hendrix was it. A bolt of lightning, that guy.

  14. Everyone admires black musical talent. A better white supremacist could ignore it?

    But what is missing now, is the supporting culture, for music and everything else.

    The culture gives rise to the art that defines it.

    *******************

    Hendrix playing his heart out could never have done it, without a lot of people oohing and ahh-ing.

    We have to give credit, to Hendrix and Dylan … and Prince.

    A black, a jew, and a black.

    Dylan was a jew, but he was white. He was able to … bring that conflict to bear.

    ********

    And now the 60s are closed.

  15. “My first comment is that, cumulatively, whites remain by far the strongest civilizational force on the planet.”

    Our civilizational influence? is a lost cause.

    People, “man”, cannot become too removed from his animal nature. At some point (like now) it becomes a lost cause.

    We are monkeys.

    Were white people better monkeys, during their heyday?

    They produced better bricks, so they were better monkeys?

    I don’t buy it, for a second.

  16. Let me use up whatever is left of my comment cred, and say a few things.

    We blew it. Civilization as an argument, or something to believe in? … fails.

    Does it work for you?

    Are you willing to die for it, for “civilization”?

    I am not. Rather the opposite; i would fight against it.

    As an argument? civilization fails.

    If white people want to further their memes, they better come up with something better than “civilization”.

    People — white people — are DISGUSTED with “civilization”. Civilization failed.

  17. Close. Kill Devil Hills. That little island west of the Wright Brothers National Memorial.

    Yeah, that’s right there by the site of Sir Walter’s Raleigh’s “Lost Colony.”

    They were probably absorbed by tribes from North of the Albemarle Sound, but no one knows for sure what happened to them.

  18. “Every highway seems special when you’re alone, it’s night, and special music is playing.”

    How true. Jonathan Richman of the Modern Lovers wrote a song ‘Roadrunner’ about Route 128 in Massachusetts in 1972:

    “Alright
    I’m in love with modern moonlight
    128 when it’s dark outside
    I’m in love with Massachusetts
    I’m in love with the radio on
    It helps me from being alone late at night
    Helps me from being lonely late at night
    I don’t feel so bad now in the car
    Don’t feel so alone, got the radio on
    Like the roadrunner
    That’s right…”

  19. Somehow I’ve managed to get this far by listening to as little black musical talent and hippie folk music as possible. Hendrix and Dylan (among others) did little for me. I think you have to be a particular type of person to be so receptive to them. I’ve never been that person. There’s a peculiar term that the yids use to describe this indifference: “meh.”

  20. I’ve been forever ‘meh’ on all Boomer music except Pink Floyd and the random cheesy 70s ballads. Had a hippyish friend in the Army who insisted that Dylan’s “Man in the long black coat” is mindblowing but it did nothing for me. Axl Rose smashed “Knocking on heavens door.”

  21. — Route 128

    Awesome video. Great seeing the very familiar Boston streets except two decades before I drive them.

  22. I think you have to be a particular type of person to be so receptive to them.

    You do, definitely.

    A person with taste in music?

    I have heard 105 alt-righters dis Dylan. Gimme a break and get real.

  23. LBF, here is your homework.

    Track down Modern Lovers on the internet, and find out what they say about Dylan.

    What does The Band say about Dylan.

    Again, gimme a break. I can’t even.

  24. If I could only take five rock/pop albums on a month-long drive, I’d choose:

    Pearl Jam “Ten” for the guitars
    U2 “Achtung Baby”
    The Eagles “Greatest Hits”
    Pink Floyd “Dark Side of the Moon”
    ABBA “Greatest hits” for the yin

    Ok, I see a few more boomer groups snuck in there.

  25. It was tempting to name some eclectic gems like Mireille Mathieu or I dunno, Ministry, Sisters of Mercy, or Mother Love Bone, but those would be desserts rather than main courses and the limit is five.

  26. How is Dylan a point of contention for the alt-right?

    Is he an original, or is he recycling white American Euro folk tunes and selling it back to em?

    Why wasn’t anyone else able to do it?

    **************

    Why wasn’t anyone else able to do it?

  27. Where’s nikcrit when you need him?

    If he’s like every other public school employee or teacher I know he’s asleep by 830pm.

  28. “Why wasn’t anyone else able to do it?”

    Dylan was more dedicated, simple as that. He also automatically considered the entire American populace retarded, easing his nerves. I don’t get people’s alleged shock when seeing him in truck commercials. He was always a cynic at bottom. Not really a fan, but my personal favorite: Idiot Wind.

  29. Dylan–like a lot of other American musical talent–does not speak to my Euopean soul .

    I don’t know how else to put it.

  30. “If I could only take five rock/pop albums on a month-long drive, I’d choose:”

    Well that’s a fun game! I wouldn’t pick any of the albums you picked. Wouldn’t really even ever listen to most of ’em. But that’s how it goes. Hard to pick, but considering it’s a drive…. (and compilations / box sets not allowed!):

    Bruce Springsteen: Born to Run
    Bruce Springsteen: The River
    Beatles: Let It Be
    Derek and the Dominoes: Layla
    The Mountain Goats: Transcendental Youth

    If compilations are allowed, then add Led Zeppelin “Mothership” and skip the Beatles.

    Fortunately, we have Spotify now and my phone gives me a 2,555 song play list (and counting).

  31. Is [Dylan] an original, or is he recycling white American Euro folk tunes and selling it back to em? Why wasn’t anyone else able to do it?

    His earliest stuff was simply recycled tunes with much better than average lyrics. He didn’t invent folk music, he just did it well. When he shifted into his electric phase then he became a true original. It’s played out now, but “Like a Rolling Stone” is a monumental song. Dylan has about, what, ten albums that would classify as genuinely great? More? Very few people manage that over a career.

    Why wasn’t anyone else able to do it? Well, loads of people did and still do folk music, and a lot of it is quite good if you like that sort of thing. And a lot of people did and do Dylan-y music, so I don’t know about nobody else being able to do it. Dylan just did it better (sometimes). Just like lots and lots of bands played pop songs, but nobody did it better than the Beatles.

  32. My favorite Modern Lovers song is the rendition that Jonathan Richman did solo. He’s a definite weirdo though.

  33. Fortunately, our resident HNIC just happens to be the world’s foremost Hendrix scholar.

  34. A chapter of white advocacy is coming to a close and with victory.

    It doesn’t change that we are in a tight spot.

    But the pretense that it’s a good thing, to flood our countries with browns and blacks, is over.

    We don’t want to be replaced with browns and blacks. It will be an unpleasant experience for the children.

    That is really what it comes down to. That it will be an unpleasant experience for the children.

    And if that is not the case? then we may not have much of an argument.

    A more practical problem, is why the structure of society is outside of our hands, and beyond our control. Somehow that would have to be addressed.

  35. White civilization, in its current form – which is to say the one in which we live – is a failure because it doesn’t respond to our needs to control our living space and create a culture that works for us.

    It is really “too bad” and “so sad”. I don’t know that there is much to say about it. People are supposed not to complain about things, because it could always be worse. A common example is modern dentistry. Who has the right to complain about things, when in the past people suffered quite a bit from mouth pain.

    But on the local level, the people around here. Me. My neighbors. What is left of friends and family. We don’t decide on anything. On how space gets used, and what kind of culture we have. We don’t have much of a culture to participate in. The examples of the culture that we do have are very sad and pathetic and lonely. So much so that i am reluctant to relate them, as they reveal a sad and lonely life, which is best left alone.

    But for instance, a hot dog stand outside the local grocery, is the only place for miles around — literally — where people congregate and eat meat. It is staffed by high school girls. For some reason that is the tradition.

    There will have to form some “emergent social structures” with which the real men around here (which i may or may not qualify for) can figure out how to … keep alive their families. But the simple fact, the simple requirement for such social structures, is that they have to be inspired by such real need as that (as keeping alive their families). Once they are required by such serious things, they will spring up. People will decide to work together and do what needs to be done. But until it is necessary, people will not bother because it is easier to go down the liquor store grocery store and get a hot dog.

    That particular hot dog stand is situated between some brutalist architecture and a parking lot. It is about the most unpleasant environs for eating that a person can imagine, and yet they sell a lot of dogs. That is white civilization. It is not a Maxfield Parish painting.

  36. I would take:
    Dylan “Blood on the Tracks”
    Springsteen “The River”
    I need to think about the rest of them. The Eagles “Greatest Hits” would definitely be a contender.

  37. Dylan is very Jewish, which may be why there are some mixed feelings about him on the alt right. I don’t know if I would like him as a person or not, but I’ve enjoyed his music over the years.

  38. Another example (of local culture) that comes to mind, is community theater. I am trying to get involved in that, on some level, but am struggling to make it happen, due to laziness and inertia. But i want to work with some of the experienced craftsmen there, and then let them know later on that they are dealing with a high-end genius.

    My play is going to be called, Down the Local Theatre. Except the trick, the gimmick of it, is that it will NOT be self-referential and po-mo and ironic and recursive and meaningless. It will actually be a real story about real life and the sadness of having to live struggle work and find someone to share life with, in this sad and meaningless land.

    The central character is this guy who has a hard time connecting with other people, but eventually is tired enough of himself and being alone that he accepts who other people are and just has a laugh, and sees how easy it is to rub up on women – as necessary, which is less and less with the passing years. But the secret to that being that that is what they want. As long as you yourself don’t smell and look too bad.

    [a tip on writing that I learned — at least that’s how it works for me — is to NEVER verbally state or post/comment your intention to write something (blog post, creative, etc) if you’re actually planning on writing it, and not just bouncing a concept around that you have no intention of writing. Once I state, in any form, that I have such-and-such idea that I’ll eventually follow through on, it’s guaranteed that I never will. Probably because talking about it discharges the “pressure” to actually create something and so once it’s blabbed out, the drive is no longer there. –PA]

  39. I wouldn’t say that Dylan is “very” jewish.

    He has tried to be a good man, and good citizen of this white country. In other words, to renounce his jewishness.

    I am not an expert on the guy, like some people are, but that is my sense of things, given his music.

    I consider him every bit the Great Genius that he gets praised for. In his case, the popular opinion is correct.

    There had to be someone like him, and he stepped up.

    A lot of his detractors have their minds made up about him, based on his earlier work. But his later stuff, particularly the albums Love and Theft, and Time Out of Mind, are such scintillating brilliance and song craft, that cannot be denied. They are literally without a doubt, the best.

    The other school of music is the roots revivalism that is happening. Which is totally cool. Drive-by Truckers are certainly part of that. Those guys are brilliant. The Big To-Do is a first-rate album. The lyrics are a lot about the passing on of the old man, and coming to terms with this medium-sized life.

    Swimmin Time by Shovels and Rope is also good.

  40. a tip on writing that I learned — at least that’s how it works for me — is to NEVER verbally state or post/comment your intention to write something (blog post, creative, etc) if you’re actually planning on writing it, and not just bouncing a concept around that you have no intention of writing.

    I get it, man.

    I don’t actually plan on writing that play. Except maybe later. It is a good idea?

    In my better moments i hope to be encouraging of someone else. I like to imagine speaking to myself 20 years ago.

    I was so full of hopelessness confusion and despair. And then some time passed and nothing changed on the personal but things didn’t get worse neither. Whatever.

  41. Five rock albums for a month-long road trip:

    Bruce Springsteen – The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle
    The Kinks – The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society
    Roxy Music – Siren
    The Velvet Underground – Loaded
    Pavement – Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain (I would cheat and include the four song Watery Domestic EP as well)

    I agree with suburban_elk and peterike about the greatness of Bob Zimmerman. Even if you don’t like his voice or persona, you have to admire his songwriting. Personally, I’m a great fan of his Christian period, which many Dylan fans avoid completely. I consider the song “Precious Angel,” with Mark Knopfler on guitar, to be one of the highlights of his catalog.

    Apparently John Lennon had some nasty things to say about Dylan’s Christian material.

    [Jason Isbell (while with Drive By Truckers) connected a good sucker-punch on Lennon in “Outfit” — PA]

  42. I wrote this comment earlier, and now it is not in context.

    *********

    There comes a crucial threshold of wisdom, at which point people – good men, and women – realize that there is not much more to say.

    The best perspective (for commenting) is at just that threshold. And then people have to shut up and get down to the business of cultivating what they have for life.

    Young people think that they can “figure things out” and come up with a coherent platform. A coherent platform for political advocacy or for ethnogenesis or for creativity or for meeting god, or for anything. But eventually it becomes clear that you are just another dying animal, one of billions (trillions) that have come before, and nothing you do matters or makes a difference, at all.

    That concept of Deep Time. Holy shit, does god even exist?

    Or is that some ‘trick’ that our mind plays on us for an advantage?

    But trying to come up with a metaphysics for those questions is a lot of pointless-ness. Who cares, right?

    The Italians like to grow grapes, but their olive oil is not as good as the stuff from Greece.

  43. peterike: “Dylan has about, what, ten albums that would classify as genuinely great? “

    FWIW, here are my pick’s for Zimmy’s ten best, in generally chronological order:

    Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan
    Another Side of Bob Dylan
    Bringing it All Back Home
    Highway 61 Revisited
    Blonde on Blonde
    John Wesley Harding
    New Morning
    Blood on the Tracks (no. 1 IMO)
    Desire
    Street Legal

    I’m clearly partial to the first half of his total career; i could name his first through tenth albums by name, or could come close. But not so after, say, 1980.

  44. “Pavement – Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain (I would cheat and include the four song Watery Domestic EP as well)”

    Total classic! (Cam, in this instance, the black man actually does tout ‘indie-rock’ here…lol!)

  45. I agree with suburban_elk and peterike about the greatness of Bob Zimmerman. Even if you don’t like his voice or persona, you have to admire his songwriting.

    I think it’s funny that he jumped off the Civil Rights Bandwagon so abruptly, he didn’t want to be turned into their poster child.

  46. Bologna Beach Saggy Tits-
    Dylan–like a lot of other American musical talent–does not speak to my Euopean soul .
    I don’t know how else to put it.

    ———————————–

    Thats because you don’t have a soul; at least not a complete one.

    *I don’t know how else to put it*

    Let me help you with that:

    You tore yourself away from the Creator early in the gestation process because you thought the “female part” of your soul would make you weak. Therefore when you came down to Earth you could only produce death and chaos. You went back to the Creator and asked for the missing part of your soul but it was too late; the Creator had given it away to another being ( the cat?)

    Your incomplete state fills you with rage and hate because you realize it is this missing part of your soul that prevents you from having a true connection to the Creator; and by logical progression, all other people, including yourself.

    The white man doesn’t REALLY hate Dylan and Hendrix; he hates himself.

    “Once upon a time your dressed so fine,

    threw the nigs a dime, in your prime,

    didn’t you?”

  47. “If he’s like every other public school employee or teacher I know he’s asleep by 830pm.”

    Not me. I’m still a night owl, though not as much as i was in my reviewing days….I’m not a teacher and don’t have a teacher’s schedule; I have weekly deadlines and workload and that’s about it in terms of time designations; it’s on me to spend the time i need to meet my workload—– which was the case in my last career too.

    I was once a hardcore Dylan fan, but his music doesn’t age well IMO; those classic mid-60s albums sound a bit sophomoric later in life, as is custom for heavy, surrealistic ‘deep’ poetry and lyrics once you’re out of your 20s.
    Plus, Dylan’s sorta “I’m a cryptic genius” disposition gets sorta tired too. I’ve heard that in recent years he’s really different; a certain levity graces his personality in ways that weren’t evident in his younger days.
    Elk, do you know Louie Kemp? Of the fishery family name? I know he’s a prominent Twin Cities figure and I guess he and Dylan are very close.

    I still have a hard time figuring peterike’s fascination with Dylan; he does not jibe with what I would expect of your avatar personality, hahaha.

    Peterike, did you ever get a chance to play those A.J Weberman/Dylan links I posted a month or so ago? After i came across them, i listened to one almost all-the-way through and it was absolutely fukin’ hilarious. That whole 60s rock and culture mythology would be so impossible today.

  48. — I have weekly deadlines and workload and that’s about it in terms of time designations

    Same here, hence my high productivity sometimes… in the comments section.

    — those classic mid-60s albums sound a bit sophomoric later in life, as is custom for heavy, surrealistic ‘deep’ poetry and lyrics once you’re out of your 20s.

    That’s the story with my Pink Floyd fascination. Thought their lyrics were something mindblowing to be explicated while in my teens. Now I see most of that as being banal rebellious druggie stuff while I’ve come to appreciate their musical genius.

    Other “deep” lyrics have been by The Doors. At one point I bought a couple of volumes of Jim Morrison’s poetry. Haven’t checked them out in over a decade (still buried on my bookshelf) but I don’t think they can be as easily dismissed, if for no other reason than due to the wild agility he had with language, whether or not there was any subsurface content.

  49. btw, I read some galley proofs on the following book on Dylan and I would recommend it for those who want a less mediated view, though it’s qualified in other ways……the author was Dylan’s personal friend and side-by-side companion to the star during signifcant stretches of his rise and career….. that’s both an intriguing and limited vantage point, but it at least doesn’t have that journalistic hagiographic quality, which we certainly don’t need at this late date.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/books/a-dylan-insiders-back-pages.html?_r=0

  50. Dylan seems Jewish. First of all, he looks Jewish. He also has a Jewish demeanor (not particularly masculine, cerebral). He did not fit in with his peers in Minnesota, likely because he is Jewish and they were not. I do think he has an appreciation for rural America, though. That comes through to me in his songs.

  51. In musical news about artists of less ability, Sinead O’Connor has gone completely insane and increasingly suicidal over the past 10 years:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36304329

    Who coulda predicted that a pyscho, pseudo-lesbian freak would take that trajectory in her fading years?

    The funny thing is that she was a neurotic leftist fanatic screeching about LGBTQ stuff more than 10-15 years before it was cool (and now standard) in the entertainment industry – way before Lady Gaga, Caitlynn Jenner, Hoodies for Trayvon and Beyonce doing black panther stuff – but neither leftists nor celebrities pay the least bit of attention to her at all today or give her any credit for the staunch opposition she had to fight. (kinda typical of liberals, don’tcha think?)

    Sinead tore up that photo of the Pope on SNL in 1992, and got reamed by virtually every media outlet in NYC for it. Even the NY Times villified her. But nowadays artists can stomp on flags or much worse and receive nothing but adulation from those same media outlets as long as they claim that it’s in the service of “anti-racism” or any other pet “progressive” cause.

  52. “…the wild agility he had with language, whether or not there was any subsurface content.”

    I suspect if Morrison lived longer he’d become a playwright with the occasional volume of poetry. He devoured Nietzsche and was into Victorian theatre. I admittedly was trying to imitate the guy as a teenager. It’s hard to believe The Doors were only together five years. They remain the rawest of that era to me.

  53. He seems less political than Springsteen, who I’m surprised has not spoken out against Trump.

    Well, it was funny when Trump slyly attacked Ted Cruz by blasting “Born in the USA” repeatedly at his rallies. To my knowledge Springsteen has held off on saying anything about Trump, and that surprises me because Springsteen is about as liberal as they come and actively campaigned for Obama twice. (Springsteen has allowed Chris Christie on stage at several concerts, though)

    That “Born in the USA” thing was quite damaging to Cruz.

  54. Whoa, lots of stuff! Randomly…

    I agree that Dylan is not very Jewishy at all. I mean he looks like one, but he seems to have wanted to be a core American and is very drawn to things like country music and folk music of different kinds. He had his whole Christian phase as well. And he certainly doesn’t promote the globalist, oligarch Jewish view of the world. In fact, in songs like “Early Roman Kings” he damn near calls them out by name:

    They’re peddlers and they’re meddlers
    They buy and they sell
    They destroyed your city
    They’ll destroy you as well
    They’re lecherous and treacherous
    Hell-bent for leather
    Each of ’em bigger
    Than all them put together
    Sluggers and muggers
    Wearing fancy gold rings
    All the women goin’ crazy
    For the early Roman kings

    Nik: no, I didn’t listen to the Weberman/Dylan links. In a perfect world I would, but who’s got the time!

    Also, I agree with you that some of the early 60s stuff doesn’t work as well as you get older. It’s a younger man’s music, and some of it gets dopey in retrospect. But you should really give the older Dylan a try. As Elk noted, albums like “Love and Theft” and, for me, “Modern Times” are among the greatest of Dylan’s career. And they ARE more playful, much more mature, and he’s not trying so hard to be “creative.”

    For a representative taste, try “Mississippi” from “Love and Theft” and “Spirit on the Water” from “Modern Times.”

  55. PS to my own comment. While with Dylan you can never really know, “Early Roman Kings” can be referring to the Old Testament “Kings” and the New Testament “Romans,” which would make it explicitly Jewish. And I mean “peddlers and meddlers”? C’mon now, that’s perfect!

  56. Dylan also talks about living in a lot of very rural and empty places… quite a horrific thought to the average Northeastern/Cosmpolitan Jew of today.

  57. And I mean “peddlers and meddlers”? C’mon now, that’s perfect!

    With this Dylan could’ve been talking about the famous Gospel scene where Jesus assailed the carts of the money changers and merchants doing business on the steps of the Temple, of course that also alludes to the concept of “money lending” which can have anti-Jewish overtones itself.

  58. “Sinead tore up that photo of the Pope on SNL in 1992, and got reamed by virtually every media outlet in NYC for it.”

    That’s because they knew the 2016 “Pope” and she only knew the ones from 1992 and before.

  59. Lara wrote: “Dylan is very Jewish, which may be why there are some mixed feelings about him on the alt right.”

    Yes, he comes across as totes alien to some of us who are more attuned to these kinds of things. Even when I was a boy and first getting into music, there was something about him that turned me off. America has done better than Robert Zimmerman.

  60. Iggy Pop–Lust for Life

    ;Given your comment earlier here and some things you’ve said over the years, I’m a bit surprised that you would have a Jewish performer upon your ‘top-5.’

    But I do see its feasibility because, in a way, Iggy (nee James Osterberg) is sorta an ‘honoray goy,’ in that he’s got this rustbelt protopunk egalitarian instinct to his art and persona and he’s from the flyover country lower-middle-classes economically, which in America is classic goy land and very UNjewish..
    r
    FWIW, I think he is very underrated as a writer and performer and also in his place and esteem in the historical pop canon. I’ve seen some great shows by him; i tend to favor his mid-80s and on mantle, tho i’m mindful and extend kudos to his proto-punk innovations in the Stooges; my faves are “Instinct’ and ‘Brick by Brick’; the former is a nice sparely written pop-punk-metal album; the latter is a very underrated songwriter’s showcase of tunes, which feature a vary wide range of styles… the song “Neon Forest” is a highlight; best line thereof: “Although you are lonely, you wish for a fence —- (In the neon forest, in the neon forest) —– America takes drugs in psychic defense! (in the neon forest, in the neon forest…”

  61. For the trip back across country, I would probably pick:

    Generation X–Perfect Hits 1975-81
    Duran Duran–Rio
    Bowie–‘Heroes’
    Peter Murphy–Love Hysteria
    Electric Light Orchestra–ELO’s Greatest Hits

  62. What works for me on cross country drives is long continuous music with power and with minimal lyrics. Keeps me awake while letting thoughts drift and time fly. Examples being good Techno or Mozart’s “Requiem” as mentioned.

  63. Don’t remember if I mentioned this earlier when we had the thread with Bob Seger’s “Turn the Page.” In my 20s I drove from the Northeast to NM, making a major detour along the way at my then-girlfriend’s father’s request that I stop by a certain town to check on his Vietnam War friend’s grave. I also took my time and took the back roads much of the way to sightsee.

    What I learned: after two days alone in the car, you start talking to yourself. After three days, you have difficulty pronouncing words when talking with gas station attendants.

  64. For driving I like to listen to Jamaican Dub music – which is faster reggae with no words (all instrumental). You can often catch it on college radio stations, too.

  65. For traveling ::
    The Zombies : Odessey & Oracle
    Doors : Waiting for the Sun
    Witthüser & Westrupp : Der Jesuspilz
    Scarlatti : Complete Harpsichord Sonatas
    Sviatoslav Richter : Any recording

  66. Raw Power and Fun House are 2 of my favorite albums of all time!
    This convo has inspired me to dig into my collection… listening to Dirt right now… ah memories!
    “Sick of you” – great breakup song.
    “Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell” – ultimate rejection song.
    I used to love search and destroy but now it’s playing nonstop on ESPN in that obnoxious Audi commercial.

    Here;s a live in Detroit performance in 2003– He must be like what 55?? Unbelievable!

  67. Zbigniew Preisner, Song for the Unification of Europe: the linked video is the choral finale to Krzysztof Kieślowski’s film Bleu, the first installment of his three-color trilogy. A self-taught musician, Preisner collaborated with Kieślowski for years, writing scores for his films.

    That song was pretty cool.

    My only familiarity with Preisner’s work is his score in Terrence Mallick’s “Tree of Life” (you either love or hate that film – I’m a fan). His Lacrimosa was the score during the first part of the infamous creation scene, giving it a kind of elegiac and haunting quality.

  68. Five albums to drive across the country then …

    Love and Theft – Dylan
    Time Out of Mind – Dylan
    LZ I II III and or IV
    Good as I been to you – Dylan
    Howard Shore, his score for LoTR.

    Other than that, i like the local stations, the old-timers.

    A song with this lyric,

    A certain kind of woman
    a certain kind of man

    classic Western, but i have never been able to identify it.

  69. I used to like putting up my high beams to see into the distance and swerving my car wildly along the road to music. Then again, there was a time I also raced trucks in my beaten-up old Honda Accord. That was a game of death I managed to escape from. Ah, B.C.

    Like the website, PA. If someone can tell me how to do italics and bold print in comments, will you drop me a line at solonovelist@gmail.com.

    West Virginia?

  70. It took me a few turns, to learn that 360 on the front-wheel-drive.

    And now i don’t got a license, but the Somali girls and their texting insanity, are a-ok.

  71. Sorry to complain!

    Look. White people are going to win. It’s not even up for debate.

    We’re just waiting around and passing the time.

    ************

    It’s fucked up though. Let’s not romanticize.

  72. “For driving I like to listen to Jamaican Dub music – which is faster reggae with no words (all instrumental). You can often catch it on college radio stations, too.”

    For your listening pleasure:

    http://somafm.com/dubstep/

  73. “Given your comment earlier here and some things you’ve said over the years, I’m a bit surprised that you would have a Jewish performer upon your ‘top-5.’ But I do see its feasibility because, in a way, Iggy (nee James Osterberg) is sorta an ‘honoray goy’…”

    Or maybe he’s just a regular goy. As per wiki:

    “He is of English and Irish descent on his father’s side, and Norwegian and Danish ancestry on his mother’s side. His father was adopted by a Swedish American family and took on their surname (Österberg).”

  74. peterike: yeah that is a good song…re. Iggy being Jewish. Ive read repeatedly that he is, maybe per his own words. I just went with the “berg” though u know im not to hung up on that topic. Certain friends in h.s. called me an ‘honorary mensch.’

  75. PA – hopefully you got a chance to experience Carolina Beach Music while in KDH. It’s our own regional flavor of classic soul (yes, derivative as hell) that you normally listen to while drinking on the waterfront, and usually accompanied by Shag dancing:

    [Cute upbeat stuff. Motown with a little bit of Beach Boys. –PA]

  76. Iggy Pop is not jewish. Look at his face, his build. Very white.

    If he talked about being an honorary jew (or whatever), he was taking poetic license.

    What a face though.

  77. Iggy Pop. They used to call that face rude health.

    It can’t be denied.

    That used to be America. Michigan was full of those people. And but then they (all) got beat down.

  78. I don’t actually plan on writing that play. Except maybe later. It is a good idea? // In my better moments i hope to be encouraging of someone else. I like to imagine speaking to myself 20 years ago. // I was so full of hopelessness confusion and despair. And then some time passed and nothing changed on the personal but things didn’t get worse neither. Whatever.

    You know, you’re not dead yet.

  79. England was full of those people. Those people of rude health.

    And yet they were imbibed with poetic Saxon sensibility.

    *************

    This romantic bs of ‘who we are’ — in a healthy society, is ok for conversation.

    But here in this society, it’s beyond the board.

  80. IDK; doing the usual b.s. Googling, the verdict is still out re. Iggy’s yiddishness; I do recall in alt-right blogs past that this one infamous avatar character, Pat Hanrahan, I believe ‘it’ went by, was very dogmatic and lamenting about the Igster’s supposed Jewishness; by his lights, it was a given —– but then I recall his particular form of Jewish obsession was off the charts, even compared to standard alt-right aggregate levels…

  81. You mean the self-admitted (and self evident) alcoholic “Pat Hannigan”?

    Yeah, that sounds more like it; idk. I’m not vouching for him by anymeans… I recall that guy being a notorious ranter, driven by a real bad dose of ‘Jews under my bed” syndrome…..

    Do you recall how Guy White used to always make fun of the anti-semitism in the alt-right? I, coming from a different ideological space, just sat back and marveled at how obsessive this particular ideological subset was on the issue.

    I went to 50%+ high-school, so have a fairly nuanced sense for Jewish ‘types,’ both physically and mentally —– and to me it’s across the board; i.e., there most certainly jewish stereotypes physically and mentally but one can always and consistently will be surprsised too.

  82. it’s across the board; i.e., there most certainly jewish stereotypes physically and mentally but one can always and consistently will be surprsised too.

    Their nature ‘to surprise you’ is exactly the trick.

    But Iggy Pop — look at his face. Totally Anglo Saxon.

    ****************

    Jews are within the broader white phenotype.

  83. Their whole thing, is to be as close as they can.

    They are brilliant. By being almost white, they pick up a lot.

    However — and not to be all gay — but you can tell em by looking at their body. They don’t have the Anglo Saxon bones, that sturdiness, that sinew of kings.

  84. Yeah, that sounds more like it; idk. I’m not vouching for him by anymeans… I recall that guy being a notorious ranter, driven by a real bad dose of ‘Jews under my bed” syndrome…..

    Yeah, that guy is kinda out there. He was commenting on Sailer a few months ago. I’m not sure why he’d want to admit his alcoholism on these blogs, that provides no benefit at all.

    Growing up down South most evangelicals are fanatical about military and political support for Israel despite having never met anyone Jewish (and I didn’t myself until going off to college). Anti-Semitism is a complete non-issue there, despite outsiders thinking that neo-Nazis in cutoff flannel shirts are patrolling the dark end of every country road once you get more than 3 miles outside of town. You could (literally) go to your average Southern Christian and ask them what Spielberg, Woody Allen, Zuckerberg and Bloomberg have in common and they couldn’t tell you.

  85. Hey Camlost, what rivers they got flowin down in Atlanta.

    Time for the Spring ritual, of swimming it.

    Nasty, dark water in Southern Rivers if they don’t flow to the Mississippi. You don’t want to put your feet on the bottom at all since it’s stinky sludge. Minnesota rivers must be clear enough to snorkel, not to mention the great trout fishing.

  86. elk: “But Iggy Pop — look at his face. Totally Anglo Saxon.”

    Well, take someone who i believe you yoruself cited as a Jew who was sort of an outiler in terms of not having aggregate jewish physical looks: Beck.

    I would say Beck looks as atypically goy as Iggy, no?

  87. O.T.: check this story out; it’s interesting in that it’s a nytimes piece that notes that GWB sent a nice form letter declining an invite to speak to a group the SCLPC deemed a ‘hate group,’ —— yet, in its playing Devil’s Advocate to the charge, spend just as much time noting the controversey that SCLPC has generated for vilifying groups that many people believe fall within the conservative mainstream.

    Slow but sure sign of progress?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/georgia-george-bush-world-congress-families.html?module=WatchingPortal&region=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=1&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F05%2F19%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Fgeorgia-george-bush-world-congress-families.html&eventName=Watching-article-click&_r=0

  88. yet, in its playing Devil’s Advocate to the charge, spend just as much time noting the controversey that SCLPC has generated for vilifying groups that many people believe fall within the conservative mainstream.

    What’s that maxim about man being able to handle anything except success?

    Leftism has thoroughly won over the media and public talk-o-sphere, but they’re carrying it to the extreme in their never ending quest for victimhood. Groups like the SPLC or #BLM simply cannot stop with just pushing the Democratic party leftwards by a degrees over the past decade, they’ve got to keep pressing onwards, to their own ruin. And now Obama’s going wild as his final term comes to an end, trying to squeeze out as many last-ditch “transformative” efforts as he can through unilateral action. (tranny bathrooms in schools, section 8 housing rules, Al Sharpton in the white house daily, etc.)

    If this type of stuff doesn’t wake up Core America nothing will.

  89. elk: “But Iggy Pop — look at his face. Totally Anglo Saxon.”

    I gotta admit that I never paid much attention to “weird” artists like David Bowie or Iggy Pop. Having grown up in the staunchly conservative south that whole androgyny thing always gave me the willies, I couldn’t really look at those acts too much, it was just a gut reaction to hearing so many fire-and-brimstone sermons in my life. Mike Jagger was about as far as I could go. However, Elton John or Johnny Mathis or Freddie Mercury were actually easier to take – being flamboyantly gay and openly flaming was easier to stomach than all that in-between stuff.

  90. I don’t think Iggy is gay or even bi, though I don’t know —— and is my center-left wont, i must add the obligatory: “and I don’t care even if he is!”

  91. From the anthropological mag and site, savageminds.org re. the post “What Does Jewish Rock Look Like?”

    ggy Pop AND his mother have repeatedly commented on being Jewish in television and magazine interviews. The same with David Bowie, David’s father was not Jewish but his mother was (which is what counts in the Jewish community). I am not not sure if anybody in Iggy’s (James) family went to the temple, actually practiced the faith. David said that neither he or his parents did when he was a child but that his sister did and that when David was in his twenties, he studied Kabbalah (Jewish mysticsm).David has joked about putting together a “Jew Wave Supergroup” consisting of himself, Philip Glass, John Zorn, Lou Reed, and Leonard Cohen. I say that he take it further and invite Simon and Garfunkel as well. They could all harmonize and record an album of Jew Wop music. (the Wop in that is NOT a racial slur). \

    Not exactly an authoritative and decisive source but it’s something; fwiw, there are many Google references implying and passively stating that Iggy is jewish; it’s my hunch that he’s got some Jewish blood, possibly a mischling but on the paternal side, yet ultimately not too personally relevant because he’s probably non-practicing and agnostic overall re. religious matters.

    Like me, some of you and many a late-20th-century born westerners to this agnostic and secular world we inherited.

  92. I would include these, too:

    Big Star–#1 Record
    Motörhead–The Essential Motörhead

  93. BTW, although you may not have heard of Big Star, you’ve probably heard one of their songs. It was the theme song for the sitcom “That 70’s Show”. The song used was a cover by Cheap Trick. Incidentally, I met one of the stars of that show, who was dating an MTV producer at the time, at my place in Laguna Beach about 15 years ago. An utter bitch.

  94. Big Star were from the South (Memphis, TN). Alex Chilton shared guitars and vocals with his friend Chris Bell. Bell was a troubled young man, an ardent Roman Catholic and (I seem to recall reading somewhere) a homosexualist. He died in a motor car accident in 1978. Maybe being Roman Catholic in the South makes you crazy (perhaps Walker Percy could speak to that?). Which is odd, because when you get right down to it, the South is a very Latin, Roman Catholic region.

  95. btw PA:

    I noticed you got a little dig in on me over my posting that Brad Mehldau serial-piano take of the Beatles’ “Martha My Dear.”

    I take it you weren’t too smitten by that particular cover; so perhaps because of hints you’ve left here in earlier music posts, you just might be more smitten by these particular covers by Mehldau: 🙂

    This is sort of different too:

  96. Speaking of the South, the nearest mission to me is at San Juan Capistrano. It was built by Spanish Catholics in 1776. Although much of the original church building is in ruins, plenty of other buildings and gardens survive and it remains a popular tourist destination. I often wonder if it will outlast the United States.

  97. I gotta admit that I never paid much attention to “weird” artists like David Bowie or Iggy Pop. Having grown up in the staunchly conservative south that whole androgyny thing always gave me the willies

    I know Iggy Pop gets lumped in with the glam rockers of the 80s but he never got into the androgyny thing like Bowie or Lou Reed (not a fan).

    “… Freddie Mercury were actually easier to take – being flamboyantly gay and openly flaming was easier to stomach than all that in-between stuff.”

    I got a real kick out of this quick Freddie vs Kanye mashup that was circulating on Facebook awhile back after Kanye’s hapless attempt to cover Bohemian Rhapsody. I mean just the sheer arrogance thinking that he would have the vocal range to sing that competently. What a fool!

  98. “Time for the Spring ritual, of swimming it…Can you do it?”

    Yeah, every year elk jumps off the I-94 bridge into the Mississipi and swims upstream to Hudson; it’s his way of measuring his level of fitness year to year…

  99. Yeah, every year elk jumps off the I-94 bridge into the Mississipi and swims upstream to Hudson; it’s his way of measuring his level of fitness year to year…

    I swim the River once a year, down around Pike Island.

    I didn’t do it today. It was (frankly) too cold.

  100. Musical Talent is god’s joke on society.

    People like Prince or Freddy Mercury get it in spades, as if to say “fuck you” to everyone.

    What is Beyonce’s neck size, 16-and-a-half? Damn, she would take some sluggin to subdue.

  101. I met one of the stars of that show, who was dating an MTV producer at the time, at my place in Laguna Beach about 15 years ago. An utter bitch.

    It would be a better story, with a name attached.

    I met Willie Nelson, after his show at the Wayzata Theatre.

    Talk about a class act, they don’t get any better. He had that real charm, that some people have, where he makes it seem that YOU are doing HIM the honor.

  102. In my book, Music is the First Art. Sculpture might be a distant second.

    And it is weird how god gives some people the talent, for it. Quite frankly, he seems more inclined to give that special talent, to fags.

    That sounds like an easy joke for the internet, but it’s fucking true.

    Clearly that can be explained in terms of … carrying capacity, or something. Someone can be a fuck-up if they have enough compensatory talents.

    All those guys. Prince, Dylan, Bowie, Mercury. They all got the names, and the delicate faces.

  103. I was up at the corner mall, just now. And in the parking lot this woman out of nowhere, overweight but friendly face, and a thick Russian accent, … and she says,

    “Can you get my keys from from my car?”

    Huh?

    I have that helpful un-intimidating look, and so i say to her, put it in park. And she says i already did.

    Well i slip into her car and rearrange the gear shift back into park, and pull out the keys and hand them to her.

    Good deed for the day doesn’t get my dick sucked.

    Weird stuff that really happened.

  104. The only famous musician I met was Don Henley. This was in 92. I was surprised at how old he looked compared to his current album cover.

  105. I relate that weird story because it’s funny and true. That woman was a Russian immigrant.

    I live South metro Minneapolis. There is a huge Russian community around here. Some of them are jews, most are ethnic Russians. They own the local MGM liquor store. The buy-in for that had to be half-a-mil.

    The clerks up there are funny. One of them says he got 800 on his verbals. He later was fired for theft. The two girls have shapely rears.

    But what motivated that woman, to actually need to ask a helpful stranger, for help? Jimminy Christmas lady, leave your keys in you car then, no one is going to notice that they keys are in it, and steal it.

    She was explaining something about having to pass them (the keys) off to her son. Apparently the car was her son’s and she was just using it.

  106. “The only famous musician I met was Don Henley.”

    Hey! You got one on me!

    Actually, I never met any Eagle or former eager, not even on the phone.

  107. “I know Iggy Pop gets lumped in with the glam rockers of the 80s but he never got into the androgyny thing like Bowie or Lou Reed (not a fan).”
    🙂

  108. ps@MGE,

    i know, despite my last comment, Iggy isn’t really a bona-fide androgyny rocker—— it’s just that when you said as much in your earlier comment, I immediately thought of that Vanity Fair posing profile he did and realized right then that i was going to file my riposte…… still, you gotta give the guy credit; how many people you know, celebrities or not, who are so quick to expose their whole body to the scrutiny of the camera’s and the public’s eye?

    http://www.themetropolist.com/people-news/latest/lust-for-life-iggy-pop-poses-nude-for-art-class/

  109. You can’t take him too literally.

    He does look a little jewish.

    An acquaintance is working on his 450 lbs bench press. A jew. They are weird, like that. They get the best of our talent.

  110. Looking at Iggy’s face though, in the link above? he looks like my acquaintance; jewish.

    They are part of the broad white phenotype.

    And like my acquaintance? they suffer, for their intensity. We see their “intensity” as effective politics, but the flip side of it is their personal experience.

  111. edit: “still, you gotta give the guy credit; how many people you know, celebrities or not, who are iIN THE WISER HALF OF THEIR 60S AND STILL so quick to expose their whole body to the scrutiny of the camera’s and the public’s eye?”

    All caps words originally omitted….. Geez, what’s happened to my sense of syntax this week?

  112. nikcrit
    elk: “But Iggy Pop — look at his face. Totally Anglo Saxon.”
    —————–

    Niggy Pop dresses and acts like a negro; wild body gyrations, screams, howls and sexual monkey chants…
    Mic Jewgger too.
    ————————————————————————————-

    PA
    The only famous musician I met was Don Henley. This was in 92. I was surprised at how old he looked compared to his current album cover.
    ——————

    what color was he?

    ————————————————————–

    I had a dream last night that I died in a head on car crash with a white man and we both went straight to heaven. It was weird because God is a racist.

    As we both stood there butt naked, God told the white man: “you gotta get the fuck up outta here Casper.”

    The white man said: “why? I dindu nuffin, I was a good boy…?”

    God said: “Thats true, but your ancestors didn’t invent anything.”

    The white man said: “GTFOH? what about skyscrapers, cars, airplanes, air conditioners, spaceships…

    God cut him off and said: “did you ever INVENT an electron or a quark?

    White man: “what?”

    GOD: “what country you from?”

    White man: “what?”

    GOD: “What ain’t no country I ever heard of; they speak English in what?”

    White man: What?

    GOD: “English mother fucker, do you speak it?”

    White man: “yyyyes, yes…”

    GOD: “then you understand what Im sayin!”

    “WHAT DOES THE UNIVERSE LOOK LIKE?”

    White man: “wuh wuh whhhaaaat?”

    GOD: (pointing lightning bolt at him) “Say what again mother fucker, I dare ya, I double dare ya; say what one more GODdamn time!”

    White man: “its big?”

    GOD: Go on

    White man: its black?

    GOD: ” DOES IT LOOK LIKE A GUITAR?

    White man: What?

    *POW*

    GOD: DOES IT LOOK LIKE A GUITAR?

    White man: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    GOD: Then why ya tryin to play me?

    White man: nooo, noo, I didn’t!

    GOD: YES YOU DID, YES, YOU DID!

    Saint Peter leads the whimpering white man over to an elevator marked “HELL” (theres really no elevator there, its just an empty shaft) The doors open and St Peter give the white man a good kick:

    “aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh”

    The doors close, St Pete walks out, and now its just me an God; I mean GOD and me.

    GOD looked down at me and said: “You can go now; I built a giant fried chicken for you, and I made the white man pay for it; its down that corridor, the malt liquor and weed are over this way; see that big warehouse over there? Its full of gold chains and drum beats; and its all yours; knock yourself out; and I got plenty more where that came from….

    (I thought about axin him where the white women at? but after what he did to the white man, I decided not to push my luck.)

    But I just couldn’t resist askin, so I turned and said: ” Yo, G; not to question your judgment… You being God and everything… but, my ancestors didn’t invent anything either?

    Why am I allowed to stay?

    GOD: Because its not true

    Me: what?; er ah, I mean, pardon me?

    GOD; Your ancestors invented white people?

    me: ah, er… OK… was that a good thing?

    GOD: well, ya know how it be… I mean, it could have been; but you know how it is, sometimes shit don’t work out like you planned; I mean, look at my duck billed platypus?

    (((shakin my head)))

    I feel ya G, I feel ya

    You know what?

    Why don’t you send me back down to Earth because I think its just a big communication problem and what we all need to do is rally as a team and attack the problems instead of each other?

    Let me quarter back this?

    GOD: well you know how that white man is? You sure you wanna do this?

    Me: yeah, he ‘s a little rough around the edges…. but I believe he has potential.

    GOD: OK, have it your way; just remember, I TOLD YOU SO.

    ME: cool; see ya later…. no don’t get up… I’ll take the stairs.

    TO BE CONTINUED

  113. Thwack…

    You understand the implications of your attested reality?

    The black man invented “white supremacy.”

    Or, do you operate by a unique array of mechanics which puts that “invention” back in the hands of the white man?

  114. None of these old grimey “white” singers captures the radical autonomy of a Gen Xer like Alice in Chains.

    Down In a Hole… An ode to “white” male’s most despairing “game” maxim.

    Stay away… MGTOW anthem?

    Would… The self-annihilation pact…

  115. Minus 20 years, add a uniform no. 5 trim and take all that goofy posing out of your mind and I could be accused of looking like Iggy boy. I go with German-Anglo.

  116. “The only famous musician I met was Don Henley.”

    The only famous musical performer I’ve met and talked to was a rapper, the guy from Black Sheep. I don’t count the times I’ve gone to concerts and paid for the stupid VIP passes so you can get a selfie with the band.

  117. Soap Opera Drama Summary to Follow

    So when thwack doesn’t insult you personally and by name, in his daily missive, is that a good thing?

    Apparently now he is trying to figure out how we can work together.

    I sort of admire any niggers blacks who can hang around here.

    nikcrit doesn’t like that word. I shy off using it, simply out of respect for him. But like has been pointed out a hundred times, the word wouldn’t live on, if blacks themselves didn’t insist on it.

    As long as they insist, well i will not be hamstrung and intimidated, about the syllables that i can make. I do use that word, in real life. They require it. It has gotten my ass beat on once or twice occasions.

  118. I tend to agree, that white people are total fuck-ups.

    But in the final analysis, it doesn’t matter.

    We look out for our children. The kids i care about, are at a disadvantage on the playground, if their parents are not top dogs at the city council.

    **************

    But the way that white people have abused the earth, the living arrangement we have made for ourselves?

    What’s our excuse?

    Are you satisfied with it?

  119. There are ponds around here that 40 years ago were fill of life. Bluegills bullheads catfish and crawdads.

    Right around here. And now they are toxic sludge. There is still carp. The ducks still mate there. No brim though, no crayfish.

    That’s what we did. That’s what “the white man” did.

    In one lifetime, that’s what we managed to do.

    We gonna blame the jews for that?

  120. “But the way that white people have abused the earth, the living arrangement we have made for ourselves? What’s our excuse?”

    That’s true. But you forget that white people are the only race that eventually looked up and said “wtf are we doing?” White people invented environmentalism, and despite all the excesses and stupidities of many involved in it, at bottom it was a great, great thing.

    NO other race has concerned themselves with it, and most just exploit the earth as much as they possibly can, like the Chinese. Even when environmental forces arise in other nations, they are entirely using the example of white people.

    I could go on about the stupid hypocrisies of whites that undermine their own environmentalism (e.g. immigration, aid to Africa, etc.) but we all know those stories.

  121. If people degrade their own environment too much, then they fail.

    We have to live like Elves.

    Why don’t we appreciate this place, this here Earth?

    **********

    Of course that is all “dreaming”. The action is down at City Hall, dammit there is money to be made.

  122. found a very good review of “The Possibility of an Island.”

    Here IMO is a v.good review of it; the following line to me conjures the kind of intellectual moral consciousness I think is also evident in myself, as well as in our blog host and many other more demographically typical alt-righters:

    “For him, the ideal of total human liberation leads to a kind of totalitarianism of private desire. The theme was stated with brutal simplicity in “The Elementary Particles,” when one of the main characters drunkenly declaims, “Everyone says ‘Brave New World’ is supposed to be a totalitarian nightmare, a vicious indictment of society.” But that’s hypocritical nonsense, he says: ” ‘Brave New World’ is our idea of heaven: genetic manipulation, sexual liberation, the war against aging, the leisure society. This is precisely the world we have tried — and so far failed — to create.'”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/books/review/11metcalf.html?pagewanted=2&_r=3

  123. Great paragraph from the Paris Review interview and article re. Iggy and Houellebecq; of the writer’s famously bold yet sensitive temperament:

    In 2001, Houellebecq published Platform, about a travel agency that decides to aggressively promote sexual tourism in Thailand. In the novel this leads to a terrorist attack by Muslim extremists. Some views expressed by his main character (“Every time I heard that a Palestinian terrorist, or a Palestinian child or a pregnant Palestinian woman, had been gunned down in the Gaza Strip, I felt a quiver of enthusiasm at the thought of one less Muslim”) led to charges of misogyny and racism, which Houellebecq has yet to live down, to his evident dismay. “How do you have the nerve to write some of the things you do?” I asked him. “Oh, it’s easy. I just pretend that I’m already dead.”

  124. Houellebecq: “La vérité est scandaleuse. Mais sans elle, il n’y a rien qui vaille. Une vision honnête et naïve du monde est déjà un chef-d’oeuvre…Car vous approchez la vérité, votre solitude augmentera.”

    ‘Rester vivant, méthode’

  125. Here’s some more from Houellebecq from that Paris Review piece (No. 194, Autumn 2010):

    “What I think, fundamentally, is that you can’t do anything about major societal changes. It may be regrettable that the family unit is disappearing. You could argue that it increases human suffering. But regrettable or not, there’s nothing we can do. That’s the difference between me and a reactionary. I don’t have any interest in turning back the clock because I don’t believe it can be done. You can only observe and describe. I’ve always liked Balzac’s very insulting statement that the only purpose of the novel is to show the disasters produced by the changing of values. He’s exaggerating in an amusing way. But that’s what I do: I show the disasters produced by the liberalization of values.”

    “I am persuaded that feminism is not at the root of political correctness. The actual source is much nastier and dares not speak its name, which is simply hatred for old people. The question of domination between men and women is relatively secondary—important but still secondary—compared to what I tried to capture in this novel, which is that we are now trapped in a world of kids. Old kids. The disappearance of patrimonial transmission means that an old guy today is just a useless ruin. The thing we value most of all is youth, which means that life automatically becomes depressing, because life consists, on the whole, of getting old.”

  126. peterike: “That’s true. But you forget that white people are the only race that eventually looked up and said “wtf are we doing?” White people invented environmentalism, and despite all the excesses and stupidities of many involved in it, at bottom it was a great, great thing.
    …..NO other race has concerned themselves with it, and most just exploit the earth as much as they possibly can, like the Chinese. Even when environmental forces arise in other nations, they are entirely using the example of white people.”

    Who would’ve guessed it? Of all people here, it’s peterike who’s proving my theories of existence and global need for the White Man’s Burden.

    If not they, then who? 🙂

  127. how many people you know, celebrities or not, who are so quick to expose their whole body to the scrutiny of the camera’s and the public’s eye?

    For a dude in his 50’s who spent most of his life smoking, drinking and slamming heroin, he looks pretty damn good. I mean how many guys have 6 pack abs and can jump around the stage like that? I agree – his body habitus reflects his art. He has a sinewy but haggard look to him.

    Found it. Very interesting:

    Read most of it, but to be honest, not super interested in some mordant frenchman’s existential laments.

    In other news, my car insurance rate has jumped to $328 per month. I called around and can’t get anything lower. GEICO won’t even give me a quote. The reason: I live too close to a large population of black people.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-14/detroit-s-soaring-auto-insurance-costs-add-roadblock-to-comeback

  128. In other news, my car insurance rate has jumped to $328 per month. I called around and can’t get anything lower. GEICO won’t even give me a quote. The reason: I live too close to a large population of black people.

    Try Progressive or some other major online-only providers if you haven’t already, they actually run your quote through many different sub-providers and can offer you the best price.

    If your zip code has a high percentage of uninsured/unlicensed drivers, loan defaultees or bad credit types of people your insurance company can legally increase your rates under insurance codes. Living near lots of multifamily/apartment buildings and/or transient populations can have the same effect. I have a huge illegal immigrant area to my East and South and that caused my rates to increase quite a bit compared to the overwhelmingly white zip code of single family homes where I formerly lived.

  129. Who would’ve guessed it? Of all people here, it’s peterike who’s proving my theories of existence and global need for the White Man’s Burden.

    Ok then let’s spread the burden around a bit.
    More Section 8 vouchers are needed in the Hamptons. I’m sure Lloyd Blankfein wouldn’t mind living next to Shaniqua and her 6 keeiids. His car insurance rates might go up a bit, but he can afford it/

  130. While we’re at it, I think George Soros should take in a few displaced families from the riots he funded… they can live in one of his guest houses.

    We can talk til we’re blue in the face about hypocrisy of the elites, but history shows that nothing ever changes until they see the business end of a well knotted rope.

  131. $328 per month

    Yikes! You driving a new Jaguar back and forth to an address in Manhattan?

    Call a broker and give him some caps and let him or her take c are of the rest..

  132. “Who would’ve guessed it? Of all people here, it’s peterike who’s proving my theories of existence and global need for the White Man’s Burden. If not they, then who?:)”

    Well, then NOBODY. But see, that’s my point. Take Africa and various other crappy places. Whites have two choices.

    1. Re-colonize and run the places efficiently. Obviously, in the current climate, this would never happen, and these places have been too overrun with Western weapons now, and the populations are much higher than in the first colonial days.

    2. Completely withdraw. Offer no support at all. No more aid of any kind (including medical supplies, food), no weapons sales, no money sent, no admission of Africans into Western nations, etc. This would be my choice. I would even go so far as to say no trade with them.

    If we implemented #2, nature would quickly take its course and the human population would collapse. Better for everyone.

    But of course, we’ll never do #2 either. And in any case, China and India (thanks to stupid and traitorous white people) are now economic powerhouses, and would push into Africa even more than they do now. (You hear about China in Africa often, but you hear a lot less about India, even though they run vast plantations there.)

    Well anyway, nothing’s going to change, at least until they elect me Dictator of the West.

  133. Obviously, in the current climate, this would never happen, and these places have been too overrun with Western weapons now, and the populations are much higher than in the first colonial days.

    Africans would run out of spare parts and ammo within 2 weeks if the west stopped letting them trade minerals, oil or diamonds in return. That’s one of the things that keeps Africa so desperately poor – they produce nothing and have to import everything at high cost, sometimes even foodstuffs. The vast majority of Africans still subsist on various types of crushed mush or hominy for the vast majority of their food, and this is why “Bush Meat” (i.e. any critter they can catch and fry) if such a delicacy to Africans across the whole continent.

    The only thing that stops China from ruling Africa with an iron fist is Western political pressure, but if the West continues to decline you can believe that China will move in and dominate mercilessly, since Africans have so little human capital or organizational strength to hold on any equal footing.

  134. “Elephants have been tamed, but never domesticated.”

    You can see video footage of that, on how they get broken in Asia. My understanding is that the Asian elephants get tamed, but not the African.

    It is heart-breaking. The tie em up and beat on them until they behave. Eventually they do.

    Elephants are like birds. They mate for life, live to 70 years, and have measurable IQs.

  135. All sorts of those complex mammals, have measurable intelligence.

    For awhile, we passed around the meme that animals were not “conscious”. It’s bullshit. They are. Look in your dog’s eyes. Look in the eyes of a squirrel.

    The whales, when they wash up on the shore of Puget Sound, are committing suicide. Without a doubt, that is what is happening. It is the sonar fucking with their ears. God is going to judge us and he is not happy.

  136. These themes of Sympathy for Our Brothers the Animals, are hippy-dippy, but they are relevant too.

    White people want to live in a world where LIFE IS VALUED.

  137. Did you know that birds don’t age, as we do?

    Every year, they are as likely to die, as the first. (Humans, primates, become more likely to die with each passing year.)

    Birds however do not. Every year, at every age, they have the same mortality rate.

  138. “Try Progressive or some other major online-only providers if you haven’t already, they actually run your quote through many different sub-providers and can offer you the best price.”

    Really? Progressive subcontracts its clientele?

    I always figured that if you go Geico, Progressive, etc., the rates will be higher because you find yourself paying for their half-a-billion-dollar advertising budget. I mean, that price has to be figured into things somewhere or at some point, no?

  139. “(Humans, primates, become more likely to die with each passing year.)”

    Don’t sperg me. I get it, that statement would need qualification.

    A typical yardbird, like a robin, has a 50 per cent mortality rate per annum, one to 20. Any robin you pick out, you can apply that formula to. That means most of them are … how many years old?

    That means most of them are 1 years old.

  140. Yikes! You driving a new Jaguar back and forth to an address in Manhattan?

    Call a broker and give him some caps and let him or her take c are of the rest..

    I wish!
    The premiums are so high for the aforementioned reasons (check the bloomberg link).

    I took your advise and called a broker – waiting for a call back. Not real optimistic though based on the quotes I’ve gotten so far.

  141. “the rates will be higher because you find yourself paying for their half-a-billion-dollar advertising budget”

    That Progressive honey, that ‘bitch’ (you know the one)?

    Insurance, don’t even start on that topic.

    Realistically, the “right to the roadways” is common law.

  142. Really? Progressive subcontracts its clientele?

    I always figured that if you go Geico, Progressive, etc., the rates will be higher because you find yourself paying for their half-a-billion-dollar advertising budget. I mean, that price has to be figured into things somewhere or at some point, no?

    Yeah, they do sub-tier their insurance.

    They do have high advertising budgets, but save big $$ money elsewhere through superior technology, or by not having to pay for brick-and-mortar locations or by not having to pay high commissions to licensed agents – their licensed people are just faceless automatons who underwrite and/or “sell” the policy to you from a remote office. Sometimes when you get a physical policy in the mail from Geico or Progressive you can inspect it and see that in the fine print it lists some other regional agency as the actual insurer and describes progressive as the carrier or servicer, especially in cases where progressive is not officially licensed to sell in that state they can still be the broker.

    And when you have deep pockets like Progressive you do take a risk with that big investment in advertising budget, but you gain in having a very big political presence when it comes to lobbying politicians $$ for favorable laws, rate increases, legal limits on liability… you name it.

  143. For awhile, we passed around the meme that animals were not “conscious”. It’s bullshit. They are. Look in your dog’s eyes. Look in the eyes of a squirrel.

    Yeah, even as a kid I found such thinking ludicrous. This thinking that “your dog only ‘loves’ you because you feed it, etc.” What behaviorist nonsense.

    Of course, when it comes to loving animals, what race happens to be the ONLY one that cares? Yup. But this NEVER penetrates the skulls of Progressive, open borders nitwits. How are those Asian “model minority” immigrants when it comes to animals? Pretty damn brutal, that’s how.

  144. “I’d also like to propose a new federal law that any man caught wearing skinny jeans gets shot on sight.”

    We’re heading that way.

    I still peruse CH; someone commented there that any “man” wearing flip flops ought to be game for open season.

    In this day and age, all you have to do, to get ahead, is wear leather shoes.

  145. “In this day and age, all you have to do, to get ahead, is wear leather shoes.”

    And keep em polished and shined.

    Not to go all swapple, but they sell for 8 dollars per pair, hardly worn and “made in Italy”.

  146. How many people are doing honest work.

    Is Donald Trump doing honest work?

    You’re klidding, right?

    Those guys at MPC call Trump the God Emperor.

    Well i repeat my question. If you went down in a plane crash in Alaska, with Trump and some token black guy, ala the (excellent) film The Edge: would you defer to him?

    I wouldn’t defer to him for a second. I am not even a tough guy, and my hands are twice as hard as his.

    It is all going to revert to that. It is reverting to that right now.

  147. I am reminded of people in Florida, and their rep for being “indifferent farmers and crack shots”.

    Crackers and alligator killers.

    Violent tendentious people. That blood just doesn’t disappear.

    I fucked up my life, a lot. But there are a thousand younger versions of me.

  148. My family background, on my dad’s side, is from Florida. Old American, all the way back.

    On my mom’s side it is to 1630, and on my dad’s to 1636.

    I am sort of a beaten man, at this point, but like i said, there are a thousand younger versions of me, waiting to go.

  149. “Violent tendentious people.”

    This civilizational compact has not paid off.

    I am a beaten man. I go down the Creek and drink myself to sleep. There are better and younger versions of me who don’t have time for that.

    I met some guy down there (no homo) suffering from Lyme’s disease, with perfect bones and Saxon looks. The point being that they are all over the place, wasting their lives away down at the Creek?

    Look at those pictures of Washington insiders. Are they better men than you?

  150. “Look at those pictures of Washington insiders. Are they better men than you?”

    Sorry, PA, to get on your nerves.

    But you know what i am saying. They are not better men than you.

    What more is there to say?

    All these beautiful women want to be fucked, and yet they get satisfied with a limp dick?

    (Am i still funny, or did my ship sail?)

    [not getting on my nerves. I dig the directions you take, but you already knew that. Washington insiders are bleh. I used to date a girl who worked at a lobbying firm, went to an event where I met Bob Dole, Trent Lott, and a few other way back then. I also saw John Kerry in passing. Coulda sworn he was wearing makeup — probably a TV event. Dole and Kerry looked impressive in person. No denying it. The staffers, definitely not so physically. Lots of cuck-faces on the Metro along certain stations. –PA]

  151. The Basic Joke, that i can’t get my hands around, is all those women, those blonde beautiful American girls, wanting to get the hard penis, and suffering from their want.

    They are not getting it. American men are beaten. The best of them (American men) are not encouraged. The best American men are at a loss.

    The best American (white) men are at a loss.

  152. I see em (those women) at the bar, everywhere. All they want, is to be rubbed up on, and imbued with some masculine strength. (I don’t know how else to put it.)

    They are dying for it.

    And something about the Porn Script Mythos encourages a weird sort of man. Not the best sort, of man.

    I dunno, does that Porn Script Mythos encourage you?

    Look at em (those men); in some ways they are admirable. Anyone who can get it up and on camera is admirable. But is that who you want for a father?

  153. (Just trying to throw down some thoughts on porn and Sex Failure.

    Inspired here somewhat by 28Sherman, who has got the balls to tackle (to suck) this modern theme.

    Who else is doing it? This is THE modern theme, but who talks about it?)

  154. “Who else is doing it? This is THE modern theme, but who talks about it?”

    I would repeat that question, ad nauseum.

    Who (else) is talking about Porn and its fixation and what that says about the people who are watching it, the people who are starring in it, the people who are making it?

    What, baby, you mean you can’t get it up?

  155. Dole and Kerry looked impressive in person. No denying it.

    I don’t doubt it for a second. A person can’t rise to that level without … something.

    On the personal level, i know the Congressman from Up North, here (yes, i do). Yeah, per appearances he is better looking (and a better fisherman).

    But i know him a little more than that, and his own personal story is every bit as sad.

    [speaking of congressmen from up North — Wellstone. Blogger Hipster Racist (who convinced me to look into 911 truth) believes that that was a hit. — PA]

  156. As to yesterday’s O.P. subjects, this version of Song for the Unification of Europe has better audio, slightly different arrangement, and English subtitles. Not a clip from the movie though, just a fan’s images.

  157. Flatly rejected a porn star for sex in NYC. Nice way to increase your T-level 10 percent on the spot.

  158. I don’t think most animals bond well with humans, but dogs definitely do.

    They’ve been bred for it.

    A few large cat species (like the Ocelot or Serval) could be domesticated within a few generations through selective breeding because they’re nearly tolerant of humans. It would’ve been too consumptive of resources to domesticate them before modern times, though.

  159. Go ahead, put up your 5 albums.

    I will add this album to my road trip: Maryla Rodowicz “Greatest Hits.” The three-CD set.

  160. Let me say something.

    I know i blew it.

    It’s not the first time, that someone fucked up the internet.

    My bad, i will take a break.

    I didn’t mean to abuse your pleasure. I can’t really help it.

  161. If someone could walk me through, how to post a song on the internet, i would do it.

    I can’t figure it out.

    Something about “an Apple ID” …

  162. PA, you need to cut your ‘creative muse’ off earlier in the night sometime.

    Consider it an act of respect and mercy rather than tee-total-arianism!

  163. tee-total-arianism!

    Almost (but not quite) a funny joke.

    You can’t do it. Because you are black. Almost funny, but not quite. Stick to playing your music.

  164. You gotta be like thwack, and take ALL DAY to come up with something.

    You don’t have that inspirational and casual wit.

    Sorry, but i call it like i see it. White people are just so sharp. Look, nikcrit, you can probably kick my ass, in the real world; but in this battle of wits? you lose.

  165. “Look, nikcrit, you can probably kick my ass, in the real world; but in this battle of wits? you lose.”

    yes, we’ve already discussed this; you are the moody, temperamental genius, pleasuring us all with your drunken and discursive bard-like muse and wit. Any and all excesses are tolerated because of the oh-so considerable rewards that follow.

    That about right, elk?

  166. Are we still friends?

    I dunno.

    It’s you who called me with your bullshit comment at 9:29

    You are a son of a bitch, i will tell you that.

    I will fuck with you all day.

  167. “Are we still friends?”

    Yes. I’m just passing time; I’m doing summer assessments and volunteering to double-down and watch some holding rooms —- currently occupied by three hispanic boys whose mild verbal delinquence approximates the level of yours.

    These poor, forgotten rustbelt reject kids. Who’s going to love them beside me?

    And I love you too, elk!

  168. nikcrit
    $328 per month
    Yikes! You driving a new Jaguar back and forth to an address in Manhattan?
    —————–

    No, he may be tryin to blame ni66ers; but $328.00 a month puts him is SR-22 territory. I say he federally fucked his license with multiple DWIs and other serious moving violations.

    Sorry white man, but this time there is no one to blame but you and your own shitty driving.
    ————————————————————————

    PA
    I wuz buzzin nicely myself yesterday. Two high abv east coast style IPAs.
    ———

    *please don’t post if you can’t stay on topic*
    *thank you*
    ————————————————————————————-

    Lara
    I don’t think most animals bond well with humans, but dogs definitely do.
    ———–

    White people only like animals that follow their orders. They think this means the animal is “smart”. Thats why I like sharks. Sharks are smart enough to know if the white man comes in his livin room. bite the fuck out of him because he plans on trashing it anyway.

    Every cat knows the white man is the planets foremost problem; they are plotting to kill him when the time is right.

    RISE UP! RISE UP!
    ————————————————————————————

    Camlost
    School proposes skinny jeans ban to help ease bullying of “bigger girls” who wear them:
    ——————-

    Is it me?

    or have black tights become the unofficial uniform of todays single female?
    ————————————————————

    Shamlost
    The only thing that stops China from ruling Africa with an iron fist is Western political pressure, but if the West continues to decline you can believe that China will move in and dominate mercilessly, since Africans have so little human capital or organizational strength to hold on any equal footing.
    ———————–

    Not quite Cam. Africa has a great weapon called ni66ers.
    You think ni66ers are a problem here? You should see them in Africa?

    You think the chinks could handle ni66ers better than the white man? Even “Agent Orange” don’t work in Africa. Plus we got all sorts of weird strange diseases, parasites and pathogens that makes short work of non Africans.

    Zeeka? Ebola?

    Don’t make me laugh; I had that shit when I was 7

    The white man was never able to colonize Africa for a reason. Between Islam, ni66ers and disease, he never had a chance; he was even routed in South Africa; are you trying to say the chinks are smarter than the white man?

    I’ll take that bet.

    Do you feel lucky punk?

    Well do ya?

    ———————————————————————————————————–

    peterKIKE
    2. Completely withdraw. Offer no support at all. No more aid of any kind (including medical supplies, food), no weapons sales, no money sent, no admission of Africans into Western nations, etc. This would be my choice. I would even go so far as to say no trade with them.
    If we implemented #2, nature would quickly take its course and the human population would collapse. Better for everyone.
    ——————————————–

    Better for the white man?

    Not so fast Casper;

    Do you really want the non white people of the world to have all the access to the African resources you now dominate and control?

    We don’t need Saudi oil; but the chinks do. If you leave or start using cold fusion, the chinks will get all the cheap oil; is that what you want?

    Africa has mad rich untapped resources; if YOU don’t buy it, someone will, and then you will hafta buy it from them, and those people will be non white.

    So please stop with your mythology that the world can’t live without you. You’re not that important white man.

    Stop projecting your white man pathology onto chinks; in their 5000 year history they have never acted like you; roaming the planet trying to rob people, enslave them, turn them into you…

    So stop it.

    Matter of fact,

    get outta here

    NOW!

    *and don’t even think to going the fuck back to Africa; you hockey mask wearin, 360 degre wine tastin, kahki pants, blinted, SPF 10 to the 56th, Mr. Rogers neighborhood livin pink monkey.

  169. No, he may be tryin to blame ni66ers; but $328.00 a month puts him is SR-22 territory. I say he federally fucked his license with multiple DWIs and other serious moving violations.

    Sorry white man, but this time there is no one to blame but you and your own shitty driving.

    I was quoted higher rates even before my driving record was queried, which is clean because when a cop pulls me over and sees that I’m white, he just sends me home with a warning. (j/k I have never gotten out of a speeding ticket in my life).

    Detroit has the highest car insurance rates in the nation because there is more auto theft, more fraud, and more uninsured drivers… It also has the highest proportion of blacks of any city in the US, but I guess that’s just a coincidence, right? I live just outside the city, but even that is enough to push up my insurance premiums to DWI territory. Sad!

    Face it, white people don’t like living around black people because of shit like this. You only wish it was something exotic that makes you feel powerful, like we are afraid of your vibrancy or something… But no, it’s for mundane reasons such as the above.

    There’s something kinda incongruous about your avatar, thwack. A high school dropout who can relate “industry alternative viewpoints” and analysis of marketing strategies to various demos, based on your inside knowledge of the business. Then there’s the dated Eldridge Cleaveresque sexual braggadocio and the familiarity with an obscure Australian white nationalist. I smell a troll.

    Stop projecting your white man pathology onto chinks; in their 5000 year history they have never acted like you; roaming the planet trying to rob people, enslave them, turn them into you…

    You ever heard of Ghengis Khan?
    Troll harder you basic bitch.

  170. Given peterike’s public record on the subject, I think it’s funny as hell that Thwack slurred peterike by addressing him as peterKIKE.

  171. Stop projecting your white man pathology onto chinks; in their 5000 year history they have never acted like you;

    Another thing they’ve never done in 5000 years is give anything away for free, they don’t have the silly do-gooder altruistic tendencies that causes whites to keep blacks afloat all over the globe. Nobody else on the planet has time for those can’t pull their own weight.

  172. Detroit has the highest car insurance rates in the nation because there is more auto theft, more fraud, and more uninsured drivers…

    I do wonder why Michigan (of all places) would pass laws that end up making it more difficult to own cars. Seems counterproductive. After reading more on it, it seems that Michigan also allows the most leeway to insurance companies on increasing premiums based on poor average credit rating of the zip code in which you live, that’s clearly part of the super high premiums within the city of Detroit.

    Might be a good idea to register your car with some friend a few counties out away from the city, and claim that as your daily residence as well. Just make it a friend that won’t mind receiving your physical mail while you pay your premiums by auto bank draft.

  173. In spite of my talents and looks, you are all better men than me.

    I will try and pay it forward, kids.

    nikcrit, put up a request. The last song i was working on, was Number 12 Train. For real. You wouldn’t believe my version. I got it in on my phone.

  174. Seriously man, you are a suburban elk…

    How much more radically autonomous shall you be?

    Aren’t you more free now that you’ve come clean with your desire for annihilation?

    How else could to settle into being a “suburban elk” otherwise?

    And thwack man is every bit your perfect reflection…

    What kind of mad “black man” comes alone into a place of “white supremacy” as though he were purposely egging on the primitive… Screaming out for a jungle to devour him?

    Two anti-white Supremacists making a dramatic scene and NOT A DIME’S DIFFERENCE between them… And that’s the real performance art.

  175. You are one to talk, you live in Southern California. I think that everyone is diminished, in this here our culture.

    Like i said, i blew it, my life. So much potential, so much talent, and what. The problem is though, what are we supposed to be doing? You tell me.

    Body building and weight lifting are gay. Gardening is fey. Real estate is meh.

  176. My criticism of thordaddy is that he lives (on the internet) to criticize others.

    It is too easy. That role is too easy.

    Go build a log cabin in the woods, then. If you are a real man.

  177. See what i did with thwack?

    (Killed him with kindness.)

    We have a lot to learn, from these niggers blacks.

    Their experience of being slaves, of being black, has made them tough.

    We admire that. We do.

  178. Elk…

    You’re just plain wrong about that… I work the Internet to propagate genuine white Supremacy and high IQ “white” self-annihilators are the Adversaries… PUBLIC ENEMY number one.

    When and where they attack me, I expose them. You get no special treatment.

    I’m bouncer with four children… Until a few years ago none had ever stepped foot in a school… My oldest will turn 17 in less than two weeks… My youngest is nearing eight. I delivered him with my bare hands. Is that manly enough? More or less manly than building a log cabin? Their mother hates me now. I never “married” her. Who’s alpha? Is that even alpha? Or do I pay the price now?

    I’ve had to take the Cali lifestyle… People will break themselves for it… But break themselves in a different way than through passive obesity as I find in my Midwest roots.

    I war on the Internet with words and I war in real life using the same thing BECAUSE I am acutely aware of the escalation.

    I’m far more interested in gaining back control of my childrens’ lives than anything else… But they are subject to the truth of wS as any other…

    I’m not sure even your 149 IQ can relate?

  179. And then there is this thing called “education,” Elk. Can you imagine how many times that word has been used to violently batter me in the last 17 years? Provide and protect are the maxims and to you “bodybuilding” is “gay,” buttjew don’t mean “violent.” Is building a log cabin, providing, protecting, both or neither? What about just plain beating a savage to a pulp? I write to effect just as anyone who writes and understands the physical laws realize that they write to effect. But almost no one calls this a regular excercising of one’s “education.” Just imagine a place where children regularly write to effect? Is that Cuck Land… A place where niggers roam? Or, The Land of white Supremacy? I write and fight. I hope and seek to it that my children will do the same. And all under that specter of “education.”

    PS. A four hundred pound bench press means nothing if you cannot or will not “close the gap.”

  180. And as for thwack… Whatever “he” is is not young. I mean, “he” is at least late twenties. But more importantly, it simply does not matter whether “he” is a troll or authentically “black American.” No one denies and everyone believes that modern “black man” enjoys a radical autonomy indicative of the thwackt. Modern “black man” is, by definition, LIBERATED from wS. It’s why Elk “loses” and thwack “wins,” both sides are anti-wS. Otherwise understood as “the fix is in.”

    Don’t the children need to be taught to see when “the fix is in,” Elk?

  181. See Elk… In the War against the Fathers, you’re on the other side… Same side as thwack and Nikcrit. That’s a hard pill to swallow. But it doesn’t have to be that way. You don’t have to write to effect a self-annihilation in others. You just don’t. Buttjew do. That’s violent, man. That’s homosexual, “man.” Reject and reframe should be your immediate maxims.

  182. A 149 IQ set on self-annihilation and against wS…

    What’s the existential crisis, again?

    What a travesty, I say.

    But a COMMON PHENOMENON nonetheless…

    Such that high IQ “white” self-annihilator is redundant.

  183. “Given peterike’s public record on the subject, I think it’s funny as hell that Thwack slurred peterike by addressing him as peterKIKE.”

    Lol! Thanks Nik. I wouldn’t even have seen that otherwise because when I see Thwack I jus keep scrollin’!

  184. He (thwack) is actually pretty brilliant, but his social skills are off.

    Which is weird, because blacks have it in reverse: social skills but not the analytics.

  185. * edit

    because blacks more often have the reverse: social skills but not the analytics.

    I was impressed with his analysis of Neanderthals talking to death modern Homo sapiens.

  186. Thwack slurred peterike by addressing him as peterKIKE.

    Exactly. He doesn’t get his audience. He is that weird outlier black sperg.

    They happen.

    Why else would he be here?

  187. Elk… Then why call it an avatar? I could show my face. Buttjew’d say the same thing. Call it symbolism. And no one knows “it” is my back. You make “it” personal.

  188. “People absolutely have to live within a mythos. It might be said that a mythos defines a people more than blood.”

    That’s an interesting thought; i’ve gone back-n-forth on this issue, or at least on issues in which it seems you have to choose how meta is the ‘nurture-or-nature?’ aspect of the inquisition.

    But then, whenever i feel i have picked one or the other in such circumstances, i’m compelled to ask myself ‘how did you even come to frame the question that way?’ and i start to lean back toward the other answer.

    i think it’s ultimately both, race is meta, but so are things like core ‘formative experiences;’ so there is equal power and influence in both quantitative and qualitative experience; beyond that, I think the only hardcore maxim that can’t be proven wrong is that, while qualitative influences can always be changed, alleviated or amended in some other form at some later point, not so for quantitative aspects like race—- at least for now, that is, as we’re still relatively early in our level o Genomic medicine.

  189. “See Elk… In the War against the Fathers, you’re on the other side… Same side as thwack and Nikcrit. That’s a hard pill to swallow. But it doesn’t have to be that way. You don’t have to write to effect a self-annihilation in others.”

    Thor, given the fact that no one here understands what you’re saying and have stated as much, it’s more or less random slander for you to make declarations about specific commenters here ——- though, in those instances your universal incomprehensibility is actually a saving grace.

  190. Buttjew’d say the same thing. Call it symbolism. And no one knows “it” is my back. You make “it” personal.

    Putting up a picture of someone’s naked body, is gross. Am i right or am i right?

    I am not a jew. But your picture could be called symbolism. You are 1 for 2, then.

  191. i think it’s ultimately both, race is meta, but so are things like core ‘formative experiences;’ so there is equal power and influence in both quantitative and qualitative experience; beyond that, I think the only hardcore maxim that can’t be proven wrong is that, while qualitative influences can always be changed, alleviated or amended in some other form at some later point, not so for quantitative aspects like race—- at least for now, that is, as we’re still relatively early in our level o Genomic medicine.

    Take it easy!

  192. Let’s stay on topic.

    America will partition. There are 4 or five groups.

    Blacks in the South. Hispanics in South Florida and Texas (and Southern California).

    Jews in New York.

    Eskimos in Nunavut.

    Whites in the Midwest, the Northeast, and the Deep West.

    Holy shit — the whites win, in that distribution, big time.

    And eventually the whites will take over. Sad but true. Join the winning team!

  193. Lol… Elk, if you think that’s a picture of a “naked body” then you’ve never delivered a baby before… A severe case of “equalitis,” I say.

  194. thordaddy.

    You are looking for an interpersonal connection here (just like me).

    And you fail to find it.

    What does that say about you?

    It says that you fail in life.

    De facto, you fail in life, by reading this comment.

    In other words, get off your high horse.

    You aint better than anyone here. Get off your horse.

  195. peterDYKE

    Lol! Thanks Nik. I wouldn’t even have seen that otherwise because when I see Thwack I jus keep scrollin’!
    ——————

    Yeah, you better keep strollin faggot; cause if I see you on the street Im slappin the shit outta you.
    Them Im gonna creep through the cemetery, dig up your grandfathers grave and stomp his fuckin bones; bag his calcified ass up and sell him as cat litter.

    ———————————————————————————————-

    Suburban_elk
    I delivered him with my bare hands. Is that manly enough?
    Yes it is. Wow. I am impressed.
    ———-

    When I was born my dad punched me with his bare hands; he said something about not wanting to see me in the vicinity?
    Is that alpha?

    How manly is that?
    —————————————-

    thordaddy
    What kind of mad “black man” comes alone into a place of “white supremacy” as though he were purposely egging on the primitive… Screaming out for a jungle to devour him?
    ————-

    First of all, Im not mad: Im annoyed. Im annoyed I can’t find a suitable opponent that can exchange views with an intellectual juggernaut such as myself. I thought white people were supposed to be smart? What happened?

    All y’all do is build statues to yourselves and duck me. When you see me commin down the street you turn around and go the other way?
    But hey, I ain’t mad atcha. A mans gotta know his limitations. I can respect that.
    —————————————————

    MG-PEE |There’s something kinda incongruous about your avatar, thwack. A high school dropout who can relate “industry alternative viewpoints” and analysis of marketing strategies to various demos, based on your inside knowledge of the business. Then there’s the dated Eldridge Cleaveresque sexual braggadocio and the familiarity with an obscure Australian white nationalist. I smell a troll.
    ________
    You smell a troll?
    What is that? Some kind of white faggot cry for help to his MOMMY asking PA to ban me? You’re just mad cause you lack the skills to challenge me intellectually.

    How can a man be so white and still dumber than a roll of toilet paper?

    You should kill yourself and leave your body to science in order to study the effects of medical waste on dumpsters.
    ———————————————————-

    Camlost

    Another thing they’ve never done in 5000 years is give anything away for free, they don’t have the silly do-gooder altruistic tendencies that causes whites to keep blacks afloat all over the globe. Nobody else on the planet has time for those can’t pull their own weight.
    ——————-

    Did your mother have time for you when you were born? Did she put a titty in your mouth and keep you afloat when all you could do was shit, piss and cry like a bitch?

    The first ten years of your life were a complete fucking waste of time yet here you are today babblin and stinkin up blogs with your ignorant comments
    You should change your name to “lucky ni66er” cause I don’t know why people tolerate you?

    Must be those silly do-gooder altruistic tendencies that you so greatly despise?

    Maybe one day when you’re in the Assisted Living Facility, some white person will dump you in the shredder.
    ———————————————————————————–

    Suburban_elk
    I am not supposed to talk about my talent, that gift.
    I blew it, by even bringing it up.
    You wouldn’t believe it; and now i am gonna be dead.
    ————————————-

    Can I play some Jimmy Buffet at your funeral?
    maybe you should sleep with a black chick?
    You do know they got chocolate milk in them titties?
    But some are like a Klondike bar;

    Never forget;
    in life there are only two pieces of pussy that count,
    your last and your next.

  196. PA, maybe take thwack off mod?

    [Thwack is not modded. He is asked to comment no more than once a day. I respect and appreciate his abiding by that request. — PA]

    Can I play some Jimmy Buffet at your funeral?

    He had some good albums. A1-A. You ever been, down along that Coast?

    Like i said before, i cede you the hilltop.

    Tell us honestly (for a datapoint), what percentage black are you?

    It wasn’t right, how they did ya, at CH. The Groupthink there is bullshit.

  197. peterike: “His father was adopted by a Swedish American family and took on their surname (Österberg).”

    Ohhh…. I overlooked this earlier. I guess that would pretty much explain and negate earlier speculations; i have come across anecdotal hearsay that explicitly implies he is and acknowledges as much but it’s not anything of vouchproof credibility.

    So I guess the mystery lessens but nonetheless lives on.

  198. peterDYKE

    Wow. Just wow. That really stings. Hater.

    Yeah, you better keep strollin faggot; cause if I see you on the street Im slappin the shit outta you. Them Im gonna creep through the cemetery, dig up your grandfathers grave and stomp his fuckin bones; bag his calcified ass up and sell him as cat litter.

    An odd level of hostility from someone I’ve never really bothered with other than dismissing as a windbag. But such is the violent impulsiveness of the negro. No wonder your people have never amounted to anything. Anywhere. Ever.

    Anyway, my grandfather’s bones don’t reside is Americkkka, so it’s gonna be a long creep.

  199. Elk… You aren’t much for reading others, are you? I told *you* why I’m here. And I get paid, in part, to let nasty, intoxicated individuals verbally violate my mind. So I haven’t read any actual rebuttals to my claims.

    You’re a high IQ “white” self-annihilator…

    YOU are the existential crisis.

    And you write your existential crisis into the virtual reality which then seeps out into the real world to violate innocent minds.

    But before you lament what a curse is 149 IQ (I guess no fault of your own), maybe perhaps lament being viewed as a beast of burden because you desire to be strong (and it shows)?

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