O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!

 Oh friends, not these sounds!
Let us instead strike up more pleasing
and more joyful ones!

– Friedrich Schiller, “Ode to Joy” (transl.)

Take a look at the YouTube video at the end of this post. It’s a flash mob in Spain performing the Choral movement of Ludwig van Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony Ode to Joy in Spanish. (Schiller’s original poem in German is HERE.)

George Orwell said “in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” We live in a strange time, when commonplace things are imbued with revolutionary meaning: a public square with no “diversity;” healthy-looking people; White children looking forward to their future. Check out all the kids in the video reveling in their native spirit. Even the babies.

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The European Union adopted the Choral Symphony as its anthem, no doubt for its magisterial grandiosity and optimistic message of brotherhood. I wonder though, what do the EU’s Ministers of Culture make of this stanza:

Brothers, above the canopy of stars
must dwell a loving father.
Do you bow down before Him, you millions?
Do you sense your Creator, o world?
Seek Him above the canopy of stars!
He must dwell beyond the stars.

It’s not Him Above that the EU has tied its fortune to. It’s evident if you look around, who they’ve made their deal with instead. History suggests that this Faustian project will collapse sooner than we all expect and European nations will win their freedom.

Joyful, as His suns are flying,
Across the Firmament’s splendid design,
Run, brothers, run your race,
Joyful, as a hero going to conquest.

Enjoy:

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85 thoughts on “O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!

  1. The guy at exactly 4:09. At lot of healthy faces in that video but his takes the cake.

    Music stimulates joy, without which we are not going anywhere.

    But in terms of culture, before music even is dance.

    Does that sound gay, a little bit? it does, but it terms of truth it is just the facts.

    And that disconnect, or that “embarrassing observation” is worth bringing up because it goes to the larger point, which is how our culture got broken.

    I can’t dance anymore. There was a DF Wallace (David Foster Wallace, wtf? i know i know i know – he was a genius, for a brief moment and then he died) essay – actually now i recall it was part of his big book, it was the standing preface to the MIT radio show bit – and it was a weird set up and it ended with “Look at that fucker dance.”

    Meaning that everything else that someone might do, pales in comparison. And it does. All achievement, all technology. We are not going anywhere, off of this Earth, and we are going to be dead forever – at least within the framework of time as we experience it – and all we can really do is dance.

  2. I know that all sounds a little weird, a bit “off”, sometimes, but you just have to go with what is true.

    What is missing from “our culture” is that we don’t dance. Ergo we have no culture.

    At the mall, people would rather dance, than walk around like zombies carrying stupid bags, and being tired and tense. Wow, what a genius insight, that they would rather dance.

    Dancing is not gay. In this extended online conversation, everyone is always on about weight training and power lifting, but allow me to point out that an at least equally effectively conduit of health and happiness is dancing.

    I can’t this emphasize this point enough. However i know that some guys are more inclined to sports and would rather do that. Injuries suck though. You can’t sustain those when you are old. Dance instead, it is more fun, and less likely to hurt.

  3. Sometimes the fact that there is no festival to go to, no dance to go to … sometimes that is shall we say “depressing”.

    Ok then how about some Irish step dancing class full of teenage girls. (And then after that a high school girls volleyball game, yeah! and then the swimming pool.) Or in the alternative, clogging with the retirees.

    Or hey how about the club scene, there is some real class.

  4. Ok then how about some Irish step dancing class full of teenage girls. (And then after that a high school girls volleyball game, yeah! and then the swimming pool.) Or in the alternative, clogging with the retirees.

    Some of the Irish Step Dance classes and events i’ve encountered on the job are totally coed and about 70%-NAM in composition……Call the An Coimisiun le Rinci Gaelacha now!!

  5. Most dancing I observe in the wild is simply random gyrating and flailing of limbs. It’s comic, ridiculous, like an African tribal gathering. Dancing should have ordered movement in order to be sublime. The Central European traditions are supreme in this regard.

    Does anyone here have a dancing background? My parents forced me to take ballroom dancing lessons in Connecticut when I was around 10 or 11. Although I disliked it at the time, I will concede that I was able to drawn upon the experience in certain social and sporting situations later in life. Yes, White men do indeed have rhythm (or so I’ve been told). The school I attended still exists, and when I recently checked out the website I noted they had added “Hip-Hop” to the repertoire.

    Sign of the times.

  6. The European kinesthetic is fighting-wired and the Afro is fucking-wired. Whites at a hard rock concert will naturally start nodding their heads and pumping their fists to a good 4/4 beat like warriors. When you see Blacks pick up a beat they like, male pelvises start humping and females start sticking their asses out. Even their children do this, which is unsettling to a non-Black to see. Dance is a mating fitness display and Europeans naturally stylize their movements one way, Blacks their own way. As with just about everything else, they don’t translate well. Blacks find White dance confining and Whites find Black dance lewd.

  7. If anything, we need less dancing in today’s media-exploded America. If I see that Dish Network TV commercial with everyone in the cube farm jamming to “This is How We Do It” one more time I’m gonna wretch. And the bastardization of dancing has coincided with the normalization of hip hop and the now near-ubiquity of Muzak, as well. It’s a sad side effect of having so many blacks as consumers.

    Nowadays if I talk to a non-NAM guy who has a strong like for dancing (of any type) I make the assumption that he’s a little light in the loafers.

    And yes, I understand that Elk was talking about high culture and not pop dancing. However, was even that sort of dancing popular in Western history from the reformation to the sexual revolution? Both Calvin and Luther were extremely austere types who hated dancing of any type and did as much as they could to ban it.

  8. Laguna — “The Central European traditions are supreme in this regard.”

    Viennese waltzes come to mind in terms of high culture. And then there is folk culture, with every single European nation — and regional sub-nation – having its own style.

    Camlost — “Nowadays if I talk to a non-NAM guy who has a strong like for dancing (of any type) I make the assumption that he’s a little light in the loafers.”

    Could it be an unfortunate effect of niche-crowding, like gays driving straights out of interior design or theatre?

  9. Well, I hope that Europeans will continue valuable cultural traditions like Bavarian or Irish dancing.

    But dancing in the USA nowadays is Africanized and consists of twerking, and not much else. And this is the future of what will be taught as “dance” in our public schools as older, conservative whites get replaced by NAMs on school boards:

    http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhEPX70vbLGQrHtqWJ

    A dance team actually performed this at halftime of an high school game.

    And the funny thing is that black people see absolutely nothing wrong with something like this, but the intensity of media scrutiny forced the black-run Clayton County school board to remove this dance leader. If no white outsiders stepped in to correct this they’d be naked and grinding in the school halls within 2 years.
    [I laughed when I read that -PA]

    Within 3 years of going under black control for the first time this county’s schools lost their accreditation, sending already low housing values plummeting further. This was the first county school district to lose accreditation in the US in over 35 years.

  10. And the bastardization of dancing has coincided with the normalization of hip hop and the now near-ubiquity of Muzak,

    Muzak? Not clear on the point you’re making?

  11. “But dancing in the USA nowadays is Africanized and consists of twerking”

    Yes, the Africanization of popular culture is accute. High culture by its nature is better equipped to resist negrification, but attempts will be made nonetheless:

  12. That’s not Africanization. That’s a Mexican donkey show. It’s funny like a shit joke; even those laughing are a little embarrassed.

    You can’t Africanize White culture just like you can’t “giraffe’ize” a bison because as soon as you let go, people revert to norm. Just like conversely, you can try Europeanize Blacks, but as soon as you let go, they start humping each other in hallways (see Camlost’s comment above).

    Here is an example of a high-culture / low culture mix that works — an orchestra plays a Bavarian polka-style folk song. People light up with their natural vibes. See the video below.

  13. Robbed of its power though it is by God-damnable commercial repetition, Beethoven’s 9th is my go-to example for the musical zenith of civilization.

    Muß ein lieber Vater wohnen! is the distillation of the Christian-revealed truth of Deus Caritas Est, or God is Love. This single phrase allowed the West to thrive unlike any other civilization, defining the dominant culture of the world forever. When a man recognizes l’amor che move il sole e l’altre stelle, nature ceases to be a capricious adversary and becomes the created servant of man. Pagan superstition falls away, and the sciences become possible. Only Beethoven’s best effort could express that distillation in its proper majesty, “like apples of gold in a setting of silver.”

    We all intuit that a loving father must live above our capacity to perceive, but only the zenith of human talent can give us an infinitesimal glimpse at that truth, a moment of which is the fuel for a thousand years of faith.

    Matt

  14. The symphony’s choice of playing Sir Mix a Lot is pretty baffling considering that he was a one hit wonder of dubious ability even by rapper standards… and most rappers can’t even read music or play an instrument. They could have chosen Curtis Mayfield or a jazz artist or something.

  15. Point taken. Pseudo-Africanization might be a better term, perhaps whiggerization. To wit: Whiggers in the comfort of their own people let the mask slip.

  16. Well, it’s American pop cultureand not high European culture that is being Africanized – i.e. rap music strewn with curse words and booty references being played at basketball games.

  17. Saddens my soul that Europeans have decided to trade this:

    For this:

    Islam is a pessimistic death cult of a religion. You can hear it in their music, see it in the bland geometric art.

    Shame on that mentally deranged hausfrau Merkel for opening the floodgates to these people. When will Europe come to it’s senses?

  18. Turns out Youtube won’t let 3rd party embedding to that video. Oh well you can google it As Earth as it is in Heaven by Morricone.

  19. I see your videos. On WordPress I think you only need to post the URL to have embedding with Youtube videos.

    The funny thing is that in 2007 the New York Times recalled an interview with Barack Obama where he commented that the Muslim call to prayer was “one of the most beautiful sounds on earth” and then recited it in flawless Arabic. I really wish that could’ve been captured and put on Youtube before his first election, but the NYT probably would’ve destroyed the videotape if they could…

  20. That’s not Africanization. That’s a Mexican donkey show. It’s funny like a shit joke; even those laughing are a little embarrassed.

    Exactly.

    I can’t even watch it all the way through it is so stupid. And the girl in black, the “star of the show” … she was waiting her whole life, for that one moment?

    It reminded me of another clip, that was the same style of performance. It was a white girl at a college prep rally, in some auditorium, just doing full-on black style dancing to that terrible thumping music, and all the hooting and hollering from the audience.

    And it is the same style of girl. A 5 or 6, totally not getting what she needs in life (apparently).

    From the perspective of an Obsidian, it would seem to give him a chance to say that since she is not getting what she needs (a good fucking, obviously) – well then whose fault is that?

    I don’t have an answer for that, except to say that it doesn’t excuse it, anyway anyhow. Everyone has “unexpressed desires”, tell me about it. It doesn’t make it ok to go up on stage and act like an animal and a dumb one at that.

    The repugnance of their behavior, and how the audience whoots and whats, and how the Sir Mixalots get status out of it …

    By the way, that is a good observation from PA about how the dance styles of blacks are imitations of copulations, whereas white dance styles are something quite a bit different, and quite a bit more beautiful.

    And to think how African dance is all the rage is modern dance. Does twerking ass and shimmying shoulders count as talent? Both those two things, are specific biomechanic movements that most people can NOT do, in isolation. Like the skill of “riding a wheelie” on a bicycle, or leaning back on a chair and balance on two of its legs. Some small of percentage of people can do those things, and most cannot.

  21. Compare and contrast: white flash mob vs. black flash mob.

    (I just can’t get used to the Spanish, though, having committed the words to memory in the proper language. Nicht echt.)

  22. Matt King – Good to see you here, man.

    Suburban_elk “And it is the same style of girl. A 5 or 6, totally not getting what she needs in life (apparently). // […] (a good fucking, obviously)”

    It’s the 5s / 6s that are “at most risk” becoming like that horrorshow in Philo’s video. My guess on such a gir’s developmental trajectory: as a child/girl, she observed that she is not one of the pretty girls that adults delight in spoiling. And then she reaches sexual maturity, maybe at 19 when she gets to do all she wants because she has her own dorm or apartment, she makes up for all that neglect in letting every horny dog fuck her. Fast forward to 28 or 36, and she looks average enough to get an average man’s attention but she is desensitized to average sex. She wants the (drunk) passionate alpha to overwhelm her like she used to get it at 19 but now she has no buyers with her average, and road-worn, looks.

  23. Nowadays if I talk to a non-NAM guy who has a strong like for dancing (of any type) I make the assumption that he’s a little light in the loafers.

    And yes, I understand that Elk was talking about high culture and not pop dancing. However, was even that sort of dancing popular in Western history from the reformation to the sexual revolution? Both Calvin and Luther were extremely austere types who hated dancing of any type and did as much as they could to ban it.

    The dancing that i would like to see more of, is not “high culture” and nor is it pop culture – it is properly Folk Culture. And Irish step dancing is a good example of it.

    Square dancing, clogging. Those are more German-style folk dances that ended up in America. Clogging is popular among the older set, as i was joking. Another variation of those types is the old “soft shoe” which was featured in the movie Deliverance and the song Bo Jangles.

    The country classic two-step is another related form.

    That is the folk dancing that white people want to be doing.

    That is what i want to be doing. But without making this about my circumstances, the joke about where and with whom does one do those things, stands.

    One can do those things in a class with kids, or at the community center with the old folks – but in both those situations it is a set-up and at a remove.

    As far as Calvin and Luther being austere. I don’t doubt it, but they aren’t perfect people neither.

  24. I just can’t get used to the Spanish, though, having committed the words to memory in the proper language.

    Heh, I can’t even deal with “99 Luftballons” in the English version.

  25. There are two dances ubiquitous among white people (and spreading like kudzu around the globe) in formal and semi-formal situations: weddings, high school proms, etc. One fast, one slow. The slow is what I call the Sock Hop Shuffle. It’s a kind of parody of the old ballroom dances. Boy and girl vaguely clench, then shuffle about inside a narrow box. The other I call Freestyle Solo, for want of a better term. This is the fast dance, characterized by awkward hip-thrusts, arm throws, and sometimes gawky geeky head-neck jaw pumping. (Cf. Billy Crystal, White Man Overbite.)

    The peculiar thing is that neither of these dances has a name.

    I think the fast one grew out of the Twist, one of those seismic dance revolutions in which a “fad” signals a real change in the culture. This dance, if it is that, was revolutionary because it disconnected the male and female partners, had no pre-determined canon of movements or movement-sequences, and therefore rooted people in place, gyrating and displaying in front of one another, unable to coordinate their movements as a pair.

    The key to the Twist and post-Twist dances was: NO CONTACT BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE.

    The fast dances replaced by the Twist and Twist-spawn, even the rock ‘n’ roll ones, were often swing-type, and those who’ve learned those dances know about the importance of the lead/follow dynamic. Contact can be broken, but only temporarily, and only in a way that maintains the sense of connection between the partners. My favorite ballroom dance, the Rhumba, will sometimes have the female as much as twenty or thirty feet away, pursued by the love-sick male. But there must be continuous emotional “contact” between the partners, or the dance simply does not work.

    Of course, in traditional lead/follow dances, like ballroom, the lead does change hands (or feet). This is not man leads/woman follows all the time. But there is always a leader and a led.

    The earlier Twist-level culture-exploding dance, the Waltz, revolutionized dance by breaking up the line/circle group dances, joining the man and woman at the hip (quite literally), and replacing the group dance with the Romantic male/female pair. In the line/group dances of old, the group dictated the flow and direction of the dance, with men and women often “promenading” in parallel (but not opposed) lines. The Twist et al. replaced the conjoined male/female pair of the Waltz and traditional ballroom dances with temporarily and contingently joined mutually orbiting monads, neither leading nor being led. This dance is, I believe, a perfect emblem of the relationship of men and women today.

    This nameless “dance” has been dominant now for more than half a century. So we have not moved beyond whatever world it was that the Twist told us men and women were now inhabiting. Fifty years. Sixty! For sixty years men and women have been doing this solo disconnected gyrating dance, “together”.

    And it doesn’t even have a name!

  26. The dancing that i would like to see more of, is not “high culture” and nor is it pop culture – it is properly Folk Culture. And Irish step dancing is a good example of it.

    Yes, I see your point.And maybe it’s best if dancing stays regional, local and meaningfully tied to the land, in some ways.

    I’m not looking forward to seeing all of the stupid “dabbing” that is going to happen in the Super Bowl tomorrow. If the Carolina Panthers win, it will pollute the next year of American television with an endless avalanche of that stupid, idiotic practice.

    Hence, I hope it’s Denver doing all of the actual celebrating.

  27. “Clogging is popular among the older set”

    Funny. My grandmother used to take me clogging with her when I was a kid.

  28. Once all of the remaining statues of white male leaders of yesteryear have all been pulled down, I’m thinking the next battleground will be high school music and literature courses. I don’t think science can be touched much, our schools are already making a tremendously outsized big deal over George Washington Carver.

    Right now you have an old guard of white teachers who’ve always voted liberal politically, but they still hold on to the classics in a conservative fashion. But they can’t live forever and the newer generation of teachers have heard about “the education gap” and “cultural racism” nonstop since deciding to enter the teaching field.

    Say goodbye to John Milton, Tennyson or JS Bach – it will be Maya Angelou, Toni Morrison and Beyonce.

  29. OT – anyone seen or heard anything about our good friend Hugo Schwyzer lately?

    Our guy Chuck really opened fire on him.

  30. Hence, I hope it’s Denver doing all of the actual celebrating.>/i>

    Yeah, there is some sort-of pitch-perfect symbolism in tomorrow’s game emblematic in the two starting quarterbacks: the old guard white general fieldmaster Peyton vs. the new-school athletics-over-intellect offensive general Newtown—– a contest in which the cerebral veteran faces off against the athletic improviser…… I think Newton is a black conservative icon in the making; he’s poppy-charismatic but not in any way derivative of white mannerisms; rather, he popularizes the star-QB trope in black cultural form.

    I really don’t have a solid feel for who’s going to win; either way, it’ll be a symbolic victory……though i do have a hunch that most here will be pulling for the blue and orange, you think?

  31. p.s.—– it would really throw-off the zeitgeist easy-read if, in tomorrow’s game, the white QB was the new-school young thoroughbred and the black QB was the veteran getting the spotlight for his September Song, as if, say, Michael Vick was getting his last big chance in the spotlight…..

    IDK, i have a feeling we’re going to see a repeat of Manning’s —- to borrow thordaddy’s ——-‘annihilation’ via Russell Wilson a couple of years back via Newtown this year. Too much youth and power for the afc vets who finagled their way into the championship….

    Despite being a southener, i bet camlost here is bypassing support for the panthers and is pulling for Denver —- in both his heart and his wagering pocket! lol..

  32. Right now you have an old guard of white teachers who’ve always voted liberal politically, but they still hold on to the classics in a conservative fashion. But they can’t live forever and the newer generation of teachers have heard about “the education gap” and “cultural racism” nonstop since deciding to enter the teaching field.

    The ‘new breed’ of teachers still hold on to the classics but, yes, they do open it up a bit more, and not always for the ‘greater good.’ Along these lines, i can’t believe that ‘The Autobiography of Malcolm X’ is still as high in the h.s. canon as it is. I mean, even beyond the specious politics —– the indisputable historical inaccuracies are mind-boggling; X even pulls the ‘Beethoven was a black man’ canard at one point; and that was just one of ’em.

  33. I think Newton is a black conservative icon in the making; he’s poppy-charismatic but not in any way derivative of white mannerisms; rather, he popularizes the star-QB trope in black cultural form.

    I dunno, I think Robert Griffin 3 would’ve been the better black QB for conservatives to co-opt (had he not fallen into obscurity) since he’s the son of a career military couple and went out of his way to tweet opposition to what he called “the tyranny of political correctness” several times during the “controversy” over the Redskins name.

    I’ve had to skip all of the 2 weeks of pre-game hype because I’m gonna wretch if I see more “dabbing” from Cam or anyone else. I’m pretty sick of all of the whipping and nae-nae-ing and Harlem shaking that the USA is doing nowadays, but by now I think it’s pretty clear that black folks are gonna keep spawning off these yearly crazes once a year, and teenagers and the media are going to keep going bananas over them.

    But, in all fairness to Cam, he does perform a nice gesture when he gives those TD footballs to kids – imagine if you were a parent who went through all that trouble to bring the family to a game and an NFL player gives your child a football. (and Cam does pay an NFL fine for each of those because that’s technically against the rules) And being originally from NC I will get about 350 texts rubbing it in if the Panthers win, because everyone knows I’m a Cowboys fan.

    By the way, Peyton Manning’s arm is a complete noodle and has been for some time. Just take a look at the sometimes poor trajectory and lack of zip that he has now compared to 8 years ago. And he was never regarded as having upper quartile arm strength by NFL standards even then. I imagine that after retirement he will reveal that he’s had significant nerve damage in his throwing shoulder or elbow for years. Last season he let something slip about not having any feeling in his fingers, but refused to dwell on it. Literally, an alarming percentage of his passes this year have been very Tebow-esque due to their lack of power and looping wobbliness.

  34. Ironic that this thread ends up on the Superbowl, no? / hahaha

    Cam is an over the top egomaniac, but realistically how can that be held against him? If he wins today, he will be THE top dog, in professional sports in America, depending on how he does today. Even so though, with that status – his egomania reflects emotional immaturity and “shows poorly on his race” (as they might have said a couple generations ago).

    He certainly has the looks.

    I hope that his team loses for no other reason than that he is black.

    To learn that Manning’s arm is used up – that is a sad state of affairs, and goes to my general feelings about sports particularly brutal ones like football.

    We might as well just give em swords and shields at this point. At some point, the way things are going, it is not out of the question.

    Wild hungry dogs and games of gore. How much money would it take for you to go about against a pack of dogs with a Bowie knife. Apparently the Mongols would pit 10-year boys they had captured and whose parents they had slain, with a knife up against hungry dogs, and those who prevailed were adopted.

  35. “because everyone knows I’m a Cowboys fan.”

    You poor guy…

    RE: Newton’s fitness for role-modelhood: I would think he’d be much more palatable to white righters than would RG3: first, he’s unabashedly black in his folk expressions; second, he’s handsome but clearly black ——- no Kravitz-like cribbing from both racial archetypes in comprising his ‘good lucks’; third, his girlfriend is black, unlike RG3’s —– which, of course, speaks volumes to ‘you and yours’ main obsession in the alt-right. (hahha)

    And the girl on his arm ain’t no “black-in-title-only-muh-latto,” mind you; she be a real sistah:

    http://www.justjared.com/2016/02/07/who-is-cam-newtons-girlfriend-meet-kia-proctor/

    So what’s not to love about the new boy on the QB block?

  36. @Cam,

    Whoa! I just looked up Newton’s girlfriend for that last comment of mine; but in the text i found this little nugget of information about her:

    Kia, whose full name is Shakia, is a former model and stripper who has a daughter from a previous relationship. You can see photos of her little girl on her Instagram page.

    MORE: Who is Cam Newton’s Girlfriend? Meet Kia Proctor! | 2016 Super Bowl, Cam Newton, Kia Proctor : Just Jared | http://www.justjared.com/2016/02/07/who-is-cam-newtons-girlfriend-meet-kia-proctor/?trackback=tsmclip

    I find it surprising that someone who could pull pretty much whomever he wanted would go for a ex-stripper who already had a child.

  37. So who won the Big Match last night. Yeah baby!

    And how about that halftime show.

    Contrast Cold Play to Beyonce and the male rap dance crew, whoever that was. First of all, there was a line that Beyonce sang during hers, that went something like, “you might be the next black Bill Gates” – did anyone else catch that?

    I am 99.5 per cent sure that i did not mis-hear that, and so therefore – what a bunch of shit. As if that race bait is not insulting? but of course it is offered up as a given and without the slightest second thought or consideration. Typical vapid black narcissism multiplied by solipsism, equals Beyonce.

    The self-regard and self-interest – the NARCISSISM – of black people and especially black celebs, versus the all-inclusive feel-good love-the-world and let’s-celebrate-together exhortations courtesy of Cold Play.

    Cold Play comes on with some feel good let’s all get together. (I enjoyed their performance, i like pop music and people who say that they suck are generally too snobbish for their own good but forget about that for a second.) Their music is energetic and MELODIC. That singer has a GREAT sense of melody, and he looks good for someone of his generation and age. Not fat, a “lively” (alive) face. He was perfect and he did great.

    And then the black show. Talk about day and night, shine versus shit. We’re-all-in-this-together from the whites, and the look-at-me from the blacks. (Wow, imagine that, who might think it would go that way, or that the chosen celebs would be so typical of their people?)

    The blacks there? they damned themselves, to anybody with any discernment – which is to say, maybe 15 per cent of the viewing audience? I don’t know what other people think anymore. The kids seem to like the thriving urban beat, even though it has no melody.

    That male dance crew was kind of cool, it is too bad they couldn’t put it to MUSIC. But Beyonce came over as UGLY evil thing who struts around her vagina – literally her vagina and big butt lead the way and she follows it around, and she has that evil hard demonic face.

    And then at the end of the performance all three acts came together, and that was a sad thing, but at least it showed who was who. The white guy was a good guy, Beyonce looked like a selfish and ugly person, and the black dancing guy seemed tolerably alright.

    The contrast, the good the bad and the ugly. It could not have been more clear. Thank you, ugly black woman, for showing your face.

    Also Lady Gaga did ok. No one can really sing that song though, anymore, how it now needs to be sung. Now it needs to be sung tragic and not triumphant, but such subtlety is of necessity utterly beyond the ken of pop iconography.

  38. Is it not noteworthy, how that cultural tradition, of the Superbowl halftime show, brought out some of the themes on this thread?

    People want to dance – and they don’t know how!

    Or rather they don’t know how to WHITE dance!

    Cold Play lead singer, he had the energy, with his cosmic vibe, and he jumps around in time. That is the basis of a dance, but there were no steps to it!

    And then the blacks come in. First the male crew. I have to confess that that was kind of cool. But it is a different style, and credit where due.

    If the blacks had represented with only that, and left Beyonce in the cellar cage with the rest of the bat shit and refuse where she belongs – i might say that there is hope, that it is conceivably possible, at least among good-hearted people – that some common ground could be found, and we might amicably resolve our differences and come to a workable social solution. Had not that awful awful ugly person, the number one pop star? – showed her ugly face and thrust around her ass with that awful “power walk” that is all they do and was made famous by the pop quartet from 15 years ago that sang Free Your Mind, and your ass will follow, be color blind, don’t be so shallow.

    Remember how they would thrust out their vaginas and follow them on to the stage and exhort you to free your mind and look at them?

  39. Best deconstruction of Beyonce ever written, anywhere. “Leading with her vagina” and doing those standing crotch-flashes like a skewered frog.

    The black crew was Bruno Mars, I believe. Echoing the old Four Tops look and feel.

  40. The symbolism that is contained in that Show, is enough. Good whites, blacks are evil.

    And all America watches it, and we get a triumphant version of the national anthem.

    Anyone who has a soul, is going to sing the Star-Spangled Banner with a lot of grief. I didn’t know that Gaga could actually sing though, she has some pipes. And her dick wasn’t even visible, or was it? Is that still a rumor?

    But black narcissism – that is the takeaway. Beyonce and Cam Newton. Part of narcissism is to not get that they are being narcissists.

    Is that criticism, of those two AAAA-level celebs, not accurate? That line from Beyonce, “you might be the next black Bill Gates” – how weird is that. So now the NFL is about black empowerment. I guess it has been since awhile, but that someone such as she and her managers and the stage show producers, doesn’t see how … tawdry and tactless and clueless and selfish … it all appears, to, uh, other people. Or rather that white people are not expected to call out that self-interest and self-promotion. White people are supposed to say, you go get em.

    God damn America.

  41. Juvenile, public displays of narcissism don’t convey genuine confidence or over-confidence but rather blatant threadbare-concealed insecurity, or you might say “under-confidence.” I recall reading some stuff by Lisa Jones, Amiri Baraka’s daughter, where she goes on to say that even most financially successful black men are incapable of displaying in social settings the TRUE indicator or confidence and healthy ego brandishment: mild self-deprecation.

    My five cents worth on Coldplay: I liked “Yellow;” even used to play it in the last band I was in years ago. But the band overlies on a certain minor scale and chordal shape that gets very, very monotonous; many other half-ass pop scribes have noted as much, blah-blah, to each his own, etc….

    By the way sub_elk; you noted sometime back that that rendition of “Jeep’s Blues” by Duke Ellington that I posted got under your skin at some point in a good way…. I’ve been poking around through old-school jazz classics on youtube and came across this live rendition of “Jeep’s Blues,” which I don’t recall having encountered before.. this one features saxophonist Johnny Hodges in more elongated and singled-out soloing; take note of Duke’s minor counter-measure riffs to back Hodges around the 2:00 to 3:00-minute mark; good-ass stuff, IMHO.

  42. Edit: “But the band over-RElies on a certain minor scale ” it should read…

    p.p.s., re. Jeep’s Blues: at the 3:52 mark, Duke actually doubles the tempo of have backing riffs, pushing Hodges into even more extended soloing…

  43. I don’t doubt that Coldplay melodies are mostly or almost entirely based off the pentatonic scales – but come on it is stadium rock. The acoustics there won’t allow for anything more subtle than that anyways.

    I took a brief look at the WSJ link and it is just a cliche. “Oh my god, cold play? (wow, those are white people, omg), Beyonce showed them!”

    Like i said, Bruno whoever-the-fuck gets credit for his dance moves. But Beyonce and her music is shit, and by any standards.

    However, there is no accounting for taste. Some people have it and most people don’t. Lowest common denominator and all that.

    But if the topic is music and ceremony and the art that goes with it – the question in the background, is who is it for?

    If it is for stupid people who want to have an orgy, then Beyonce. If it is for white people who want to feel cosmic, then Cold Play will be their ticket.

    If it is for a mature man who is tired and sad, maybe he wants to sing some old hymns and shed a tear to face the day. If it for someone who wants to look back at his life and let go, some sophisticated old school jazz might be of assistance.

    What is the cultural context, of the music?

    I have noted before, that the problem with music these days, is that it is written for the market, a large share of which is teenage girls. And the other large share is the thumpin thug life. I think most of us grow out of that, eventually – or at least that is the idea!

  44. Juvenile, public displays of narcissism don’t convey genuine confidence or over-confidence but rather blatant threadbare-concealed insecurity, or you might say “under-confidence.”

    That sounds reasonable on its face,. but is the display that we get from Beyonce “juvenile”? I don’t think that it can be regarded as juvenile.

    It is immature and selfish and off-putting as hell, but she is WOMAN (god damn her). She sure as hell won’t recognize or regard her own self as juvenile. She is regarded by herself and everyone else as full grown.

    She aint growing anymore, emotionally. If she is juvenile, then that is her full potential.

    And furthermore, per appearances – in NO WAY does her presentation come across as “over-compensating” or whatever. Her confidence is VERY REAL. I don’t think that that can be even up for debate.

    The question it begs, is how much potential for emotional maturity, does she, and do black women in America in general, have? I have on my playlist, what is her name, Odetta Sings Dylan, and that woman has some depth to her wow. But even in her case my impression is that her perspective is still limited to her own experience, somehow.

    All of us are limited in that regard, it’s true. But something about the black experience, at least the black experience in America, where they are removed from the natural environment – it is as if they can’t get over themselves. That is their general attitude, in summary: They can’t get over themselves.

    But as far Cam displaying over-confidence as a compensation, i might buy that, in his case.

    Part of the difference in the attitudes of those two exemplars, must certainly be sex based. The nature of confidence and maturity is a very different thing for men and women, and i bet that their two attitudes, as interpreted above, can be funnelled into sex roles and sex differences.

  45. some stuff by Lisa Jones, Amiri Baraka’s daughter, where she goes on to say that even most financially successful black men are incapable of displaying in social settings the TRUE indicator or confidence and healthy ego brandishment: mild self-deprecation.

    I don’t recognize those names, but that sounds like an accurate statement.

    Self-deprecation is tricky. It is the mark of confidence, but it is often misused by pretenders. Pretenders who think that they are in a position to self-deprecate, but actually they are not (in that position): people are already deprecating them, and the last thing that they need is to help along those who do not wish them well.

  46. What is the cultural context, of the music?

    I have noted before, that the problem with music these days, is that it is written for the market, a large share of which is teenage girls. And the other large share is the thumpin thug life. I think most of us grow out of that, eventually – or at least that is the idea!

    Agreed. I take no real value or direction from a daily newspaper pop-concert review (or Superbowl review, in this case —– though I do empathize with those who have to churn such stuff out). My inclusion of the Ellington jam was an afterthought; the topic of music merely triggered memory of me wanting to make mention of that jeep’s blues rendition…. for me at this point, pop music is a social rather than musical issue to reckon with; iow: if you recall that early thread on t6his blog re. john lennon, in which I cited an essay/review by Louis Menand on the Lennon biography by Albert Goldman, but which Menand transcended and made it into a essay on the distinctions of modern pop fame? That’s something I can get into at this late date —- but not examination of strictly the music (not saying you or anyone did that here tho)…. It’s probably my jadedness, but I just can’t get that worked up over pop stuff —– a la your ‘deconstruction’ of Beyoncé; I l ook at her as the result of a long-string of pop/advertising/marketing forces, with her convictions something that may or may not have tagged along over the years… I recall being in the movie and on the soundtrack for —- what was that called? The comedy that included mike myers as “Mini-Me?”—- and she was game for whatever they threw at her in terms of material; now, she’s this handcrafted pop outrage, just like Madonna was X amount of years ago. After a while, I just let that go…..but no: the “Coldplay good, Beyoncé Evil” thematic didn’t resonate with me—- but that’s probably due to my own jadedness and pop fatigue than anything objectively lacking in its merits.

    Amiri Baraka is the African-ized name of “Leroi Jones,” who was a fairly respected black music critic; he wrote a ‘seminal’ book in the late 60s called “Blues People,” which was one of the first organized attempts at music-lit to cover the subject you sorta broached this morning: the x-factor of race in pop music interpretation.

  47. Self-deprecation….. is often misused by pretenders. Pretenders who think that they are in a position to self-deprecate, but actually they are not (in that position): people are already deprecating them, and the last thing that they need is to help along those who do not wish them well.

    Lol!! Yeah, quite true; I guess I overlooked that lot and it’s probably quite a big subset of those who self-deprecate.

    Perhaps it deserves its own name and category: “Aspirational Self-Deprecators!”

  48. “…..and an NFL player gives your child a football. (and Cam does pay an NFL fine for each of those because that’s technically against the rule…..”

    For me, this has always been a subject of mild amazement. I mean, here you have this multibillion dollar industry in which there are aspects of its operation that all-but-literally print money, yet they get all chincey and tight when it comes to a athlete charming some unsuspecting kid with a gift football! What? The NFL can’t absorb the cost of this little bit of spontaneous PR and customer relations?

    Ditto for when they actually spend money and labor to put up nets when a kicker attempts a field goal and extra point, rather than let some fan get a nice souvenir. the only reason I see for this is htat they might be thinking safety or liability in terms of a fan being injured —– but that would be more likely in baseball, I’d guess.

  49. O.T.@PA:

    Who in the bottom and last picture in your ‘Welcome to Hell Stray Lambs” post is the elderly couple? It looks like they’ve tied to face a firing squad or something?

    [Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu. Romanian dictator and his wife, speedily tried by an ad hoc court and executed for genocide of own people in 1989. -PA]

  50. Leave it to a white girl in The New Yorker to pen the ultimate, pozzed-out anti-white drivel in praise of Beyonce at the Stupor Bowl.

    http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/beyonce-sacks-the-super-bowl-halftime-show

    Women ruin everything.

    @PatrickH “For sixty years men and women have been doing this solo disconnected gyrating dance, ‘together’. And it doesn’t even have a name!”

    Yeah it does. It’s called “dancing.” That’s what you call “winning the Narrative.”

  51. The establishment press fails every time. Their interpretation of culture is backwards.

    I don’t know what to say about it. There is one of those Murphy’s law things, but it is not called Murphy’s law, but it is about how when the newspaper writes about something you know about, it turns out that they are full of shit – and then the average person will go back to reading the rest of the news about other topics and taking them at their word.

    Music and the culture criticism is up for grabs. Everyone gets their own “emotional” reaction to the show. What was yours?

    Those opinion pieces are pretty predictable but i can’t say they don’t bug.

    Just today i checked out the front page section of the Minneapolis paper, and everytime it is a full-on assault. An assault on common sense and decency. Today there was a front page article on non-Muslim women wearing the hijab as a show of solidarity, and full of pictures of Muslim women in the most flattering light and glowing terms. And it is like that every day.

    But i guess they don’t like Cold Play and they talk up Beyonce in flattering terms. Color me unsurprised.

    I am tired of Americans. I don’t know anymore, who they are, or where they are coming from. People say enjoy the decline, but how does one do that.

    But just to repeat, there is no way that Beyonce’s act was anything but vulgar and stupid. If that is what the New York press wants to talk up, what a bunch of idiots.

    I won’t say that they are not effective, in their cultural warfare, though. It is discouraging. All this bullshit.

  52. The NFL can’t absorb the cost of this little bit of spontaneous PR and customer relations?

    The NFL sells authentic footballs for profit, they don’t want players giving them away.

    Also, there’s liability – 2 years ago a Major League baseball player tossed a ball in the stands and some idiot leaned out so far that he fell 30 feet and break some bones.

  53. All of us are limited in that regard, it’s true. But something about the black experience, at least the black experience in America, where they are removed from the natural environment – it is as if they can’t get over themselves. That is their general attitude, in summary: They can’t get over themselves.

    But as far Cam displaying over-confidence as a compensation, i might buy that, in his case.

    Cam’s arrogance and self-admiration is just the outward expression of the “peacock display” evolutionary strategy that works very well in hyper-feminized societies (i.e. the ones in which women do all of the work, like Africa).

  54. “The NFL sells authentic footballs for profit, they don’t want players giving them away.”

    Yeah, I can technically see and acknowledge an operational logic in play, but geez, think about it practically in public relational terms. I mean, cut to a throwaway, red-zone, prevent-the-sack throw by a QB in which the balls goes into the second row. Some 12-year-old kid gamely catches the errant throw—– but to only have his prize quickly snatched away by some stadium security goombah, who makes damn-sure that the gilded Goodell-age NFL isn’t shorted it’s, $70-or-so production cost of a game ball. This, all before 60,000 or present and untold millions at home, or last night, worldwide.

    It’s bad enough the nfl thinks it’s prudent to broadcast its stinginess; think of it more as an act of throwing away millions of dollars of potential self-serving PR and publicity!

    I mean, what am i missing here? it seems to me to be a no-brainer.

  55. Leave it to a white girl in The New Yorker to pen the ultimate, pozzed-out anti-white drivel in praise of Beyonce at the Stupor Bowl.

    I noticed in that review you linked to actually criticized Coldplay solely for being white:
    “Coldplay’s performance was so tepid, so anonymous, so comically white, that the actress Taraji P. Henson mistook the band for Maroon 5 in the caption of an Instagram post. How Beyoncé would drop into the scene—in the Bay Area’s broad daylight—became an even more urgent question.”

    I wonder if this writer, Battan, is the new pop critic for the New Yorker? I think Sasha Frere Jones quit or was let go. it’s sort-of funny to me that it’s widely assumed that such a gig should go to a young, active-demo-aged hipster (though Jones wasn’t) when, in fact, the best-ever pop critic at that mag IMO was Louis Menand, whose a classic American History-type essayist and is probably in his late 60s, at least. To me, the only worthwhile aspect to pop criticism in the 21st-century is to approach it from the perspective of sociology, and maybe modern-studies in the ways all the emerging technology of the last 20 years has changed pop music’s influence; the New Yorker also has the staff writer John Seabrook, who covers pop-culture and I.T.; but even the better, older writers about music just don’t have the stomache to familiarize themselves with the surfeit of pop nowadays; it’s a ‘poverty of abundance,’ in the classic sense of the term, as was The Depression.

  56. what am i missing here?

    The NFL is protecting its brand.

    If everyone has a game ball, it is not the same.

    The NFL could stand to work on its brand. They have come under a lot of due and earned criticism, over the last decade especially. But it all gets managed and overlooked – the show must go on!

    Football is a fun game, to watch, for Americans. But it is not just mean old racists who are tired of the overbearing antics.

    They can’t tone down those players. That is an unreasonable request. They are jacked to hell, and beyond that is the culture that allows for and encourages that behavior.

    I am truly curious on people’s opinion of the halftime show. But i am not requesting a poll here – but rather just making the observation that it is hard to find out, what people really feel about it all. According to the press, Beyonce was a big hit. Were people really impressed though. I just can’t believe that your typical football bozo is impressed with Beyonce and her black power dance.

    And also, was the typical fan’s reaction to Coldplay so negative as those media snobs would have one believe?

    Upon thinking about it, i come to the conclusion that the vast majority of people don’t think or feel about it any which way too much at all. It is all about the Doritos whatever other distractions on the bill.

    Most people don’t care. It is only a fraction who look for meaning in it. And of that fraction there are the media snobs and there are those more honest on the internet.

    But the Halftime Show is one of the very biggest ceremonies that there is, along with the Fourth of July … and what else? Those two things are the most common “cultural” experiences that we have – those are the two national ceremonies. Perhaps inauguration day is third on the list, but that is only every four years.

    Christmas has been removed. And Thanksgiving is also “problematic”. New Year’s used to be something, but now people don’t celebrate in public because there is no public sphere. It has been removed abandoned and deteriorated, neglected forsaken and lost.

  57. I am truly curious on people’s opinion of the halftime show. But i am not requesting a poll here – but rather just making the observation that it is hard to find out, what people really feel about it all.

    I used it as opportunity to go pick up food and bring back some booze for me and the boys; don’t give one hoot about the actual show; i tend to look at it through the prism of ‘who concocted the bill this year and what are the product tie-ins coming this spring?’ It was typical demo-spanning —– a white act, a black act and a half-puerto-rican/half-phillipinian rock-pop-R&B genre-bender, who i guess comprised my demo, the multi-race creature.

    was the typical fan’s reaction to Coldplay so negative as those media snobs would have one believe?

    I was somewhat surprised at the vitriol thrown Coldplay’s way; the band is a sort-of ‘critical-UNdarling,’ in recent years; it really is weak in the songwriting IMHO, so many better brit-pop acts…i even loved Oasis when they were new; i’m pretty sure i could show you some RS interviews with chris martin that would make you wretch; talk about egomaniacal, prog-do-gooders! The band and its fans are maniacal in that regard.

    The NFL is protecting its brand.

    If everyone has a game ball, it is not the same.

    No, five or six wayward balls per-game that wind-up becoming souvenirs is hardly a ‘brand buster.’ I don’t get it; there must be something obvious i’m overlooking; otherwise, my view would prevail. the reason can’t be monetary, cuz then it would mos def be a no-brainer.

  58. I am not saying it’s logical, i am saying that protecting their brand is their motivation.

    What else would it be.

    Why should there be a reasonable explanation for that decision – and by extension, human behavior?

    Since when, ha. If there were a reasonable explanation for decisions made by the NFL executive commission or whoever, regarding their footballs, then there might also be reasonable explanations for the million other problems of human affairs.

    It is a good example of faulty thinking being in effect. Which is why i made the point. Obviously i know that 5 or 6 footballs doesn’t make much of a difference. On the other hand, it does make a little bit of a difference. They don’t give away game balls, and you can’t get them, and therefore they are worth more. Or that is how the thinking goes.

    I would take Coldplay over Oasis anyday. I hated Oasis, completely. Their lead singer sounds like a fag.

    Now i am invested in defending Coldplay and bubblegum pop – kind of a losing battle.

  59. I wouldn’t rule out crowd safety as a reason. Erratic footballs flying onto the stands will get bobbled and dropped and fights will break out over them, unlike with a smaller/cheaper baseball or a hockey puck.

  60. the band is a sort-of ‘critical-UNdarling,’ in recent years; it really is weak in the songwriting IMHO

    They are a critical UN darling, that is a good way to put it. And plenty of people who don’t have much confidence in their own taste are eager to repeat the party line about them.

    Another band that was in the same boat is slash was Nickelback. For same reasons. That song We all just wanna be Big Rock Stars and the official video is pretty great. The case can be made that it is the best and only video made since Thriller – there is not better commentary on pop culture than that video – it is, frankly, brilliant.

    But then there was that facebody meme, how if you liked Nickelback, you are a dumbshit and please kill yourself. But Oasis is ok because the lead singer sings like a fag?

    Coldplay is bubblegum pop but not just not just girls. Young guys as well were included in the audience for Nickleback and Coldplay. Kid Rock on the other hand gets some critical passes – because why, he is a dipshit? Both Nickleback and Coldplay contain a little bit of sincerity – and we can’t have that, heavens no!

    They told us so, in New York, the word come one down that those bands are for losers, and they don’t like em there, so i just go along with my betters and repeat what they tell me and like what they like.

  61. I would take Coldplay over Oasis anyday. I hated Oasis, completely. Their lead singer sounds like a fag.

    Lol! I mean this with absolutely not an ounce of antagonism, but when I summon a reflexive hunch of what you may look like IRL, (the way we all often get a subconscious image of avatars we have no REAL way whatsoever of knowing descriptive physical details about), I picture Liam Gallagher, the lead singer of Oasis.

    Hey, at least in the court of popular opinion, he was considered a good-looking pop icon in the longstanding white-rocker mode; he was the arm candy of Patsy Kensit; that’s pretty high-up the anglo-pop hierarchy, no?

  62. The last paragraph of my previous comment is a parody of the general teenager’s mentality (not anybody’s in particular).

    All the adults here know that most commercial music is put out to satisfy the market: the market not for music but for identity.

    That is a big bold and plain statement, and no particular startling insight, but still is worth making that point.

    The market for music for (mature) adults is just a sliver.

    I remember being a teenager in the 80s, and suddenly it was no longer acceptable to enjoy top-40 music. All of the sudden the kids who were … perhaps a little more striving in their quest for personhood … were honing in on these identities based on their music groups.

    That topic really is “When i was kid, laddie, let me tell ya ” and as such should be regarded skeptically.

    But just as a quick example, one kid i knew, who was literally a math prodigy (and i am not referring to myself) – this kid had literally the number-one scores in the state – he dropped out of the race and i wonder what happened to him. But during the dropout phase he disappeared into his headphones and everyday was another identity t-shirt featuring some punk band as Dead Kennedys or Suicidal Tendencies or preferably something more obscure.

    I remember hearing those bands, and thinking wow this isn’t even music. I’ll stick with Casey Kasem and classic rock, thank you very much.

    Around that time, The Replacements and then REM were THE alternative acts. And both bands were ok, but they were the “alternative”. For fags in other words. Except it wasn’t actually a gay subculture, but rather just for non-jocks and not good old boys.

  63. No, five or six wayward balls per-game that wind-up becoming souvenirs is hardly a ‘brand buster.’ I don’t get it; there must be something obvious i’m overlooking; otherwise, my view would prevail. the reason can’t be monetary, cuz then it would mos def be a no-brainer.

    You’re not thinking, Nik. The NFL also doesn’t want a secondary market of authentic game balls to pop up on e-Bay or Craigslist, with players, stadium staff, field personnel, etc. finding ways to make money off it. And by “the NFL” I mean the owners – their real profit comes in licensed paraphernalia and goods sold, not necessarily in the gate or stadium operations, which may not even cover the team salaries and operating costs. However, they get a huge windfall revenue stream on worldwide sales of every mug, shirt and plastic cup that features a NFL or team logo.

    The NBA already had a big scandal some years back with referees and stadium personnel being able to make some side sales of their tickets, jerseys and other league-provided items. People were fired, one NBA ref eventually went to jail for helping fix games, and lots of rules were changed to tighten things up.

    Everyone forgets that the NFL is a very, very shrewd business and not a charity.

    Even the halftime show was a calculated ratings move designed to draw a huge TV market of people who don’t watch the NFL the other 19 weeks of the season. The musical acts were picked to be playable on a world stage, and to be appealing to lots of female viewers, many of whom will tune in to see the silly commercials featuring talking babies and animals. The NFL’s most reliable and profitable fans (white male corporate sponsors and season ticket holders) sure don’t give a crap about Beyonce or Lady Gaga.

  64. Music as ceremony, is an insight that explains a lot of culture, and what has happened to it.

    There is a good netflix sockumentary around the street performance scene in Seattle, more or less contemporary, called Find Your Way: A Busker’s Documentary.

    People have a NEED for social ceremonies, and they aint gettin it, to the point that there are crazies willing to go out the Street and sing and dance, to get what they need.

    It is actually a pretty great documentary, and recognized as such. The featured artists are a unique lot. What would drive someone out to the street and do that, is in fact quite an unusual psyche profile.

    I have made the joke, that if you were to go into a restaurant with some serious firepower and take it hostage, and give the people there a choice to either go out the street and perform for an hour (and really give it a go), or get a bullet in the head – about two thirds of them would opt for death.

    But the thing with street performing that that sockumentary touches on indirectly (and i think inadvertently), the theme relates to a lot of our contemporary social problems regarding isolation and race conflict – is how the streets are so unfriendly and unwelcoming of performance.

    That is the struggle that the featured artists are up against. It takes place in Seattle, and there is the Market there, and a culture surrounding, that allows for some performance; but even there the welcome mat is worn down.

    There is one scene in particular that the racists will enjoy. One of the performers is a young woman, with a big body and special talent, and she goes down and starts singing and gets crowded by this street hustling player pimp nigger, and he propositions her (in so many words) to whore for him. And it is not a joke, though i think that a lot of the sheltered audience for that film will not get it, his lingo and its innuendo.

    Here is this Voice of an Angel and she is trying to sing, and this robotripping nagger is – in front of a dozen white people – is recruiting her to be a whore.

  65. I think the backlash against Nickelback is that their artistry isn’t that strong. They have a pretty canned, predictable and derivative style of rock – kinda reminiscent of Lenny Kravitz.

    When popular white music started to fracture from 1988-2000 it was partly due to the proliferation of producer-driven, mass commercialized crap hitting the airwaves. Not to mention the importance of video – think about how many records Brittney Spears or Milla Vanilla would’ve sold if you couldn’t see them (zero).

    Before that time radio DJ’s played what they liked but then when Clearchannel and mass for-profit programming came along you had soulless program directors at the radio stations having to forego selecting their playlists on true musical ability – instead they had to start playing what Neilsen surveys told them to be popular with young males age 18 to 28.

  66. Heh. Except for that tax-exempt status.

    Yes, good point. They’ve got quite a racket going.

    But I don’t know if you remember back in the 80’s that upstart prof football league tried to sue the NFL for anti-trust – the plaintiff was awarded with $1 in damages and told to go fly a kite.

  67. “fights will break out over them, unlike with a smaller/cheaper baseball or a hockey puck.”

    Ahh,There likely goes “my obvious oversight.” That’s about the only logical explanation I can see on this one. That, and perhaps it would be a floodgate for other sports, a la fans keeping NBA balls every time an errant throw or block lands in the stands…..(My apologies for providing this fascinating tangent)

  68. At Wrigley or Dodger Stadium the drunk fans will throw foul balls back on the field and target opposing players, too. Maybe in Chicago they’ll be nicer now that the Cubs don’t suck any more.

  69. I want to pat myself on the back for that photo of the two kids and the cello in the original post. It’s a screenshot I selected from the video that I then cropped. It’s a work of art — kudos to the cameraman and the video editors — considering that it wasn’t staged (ie it’s a spontaneous public street scene).

    Art should dignify man. I think that photo does this on several levels. In contrast, superbowl commercials and halftime shows diminish humanity. Poz ruling class, poz official art.

  70. Actually, the NFL has voluntarily given up its tax-exempt status, partly due to political pressure. They’re supposed to be filing taxing returns by 2018 or 2019.

    And I think only the core NFL office and admin functions were exempt (funded primarily by TV network contracts) and individual teams were not.

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    I find it surprising that someone who could pull pretty much whomever he wanted would go for a ex-stripper who already had a child.

    C’mon Nik. Has it been that long since you’ve spent any time with your dad’s people?

    Are there any black women in the USA who aren’t a single mom by 24? Even if Cam tried to find a girl at church, all those black women there are single moms, too.

    And the stripper thing – you know the brothers are mesmerized by booty, and they don’t really select mates for virtue. Rappers release about 5 or 6 songs extolling their fascination with strippers – you can hear “I’m in love with a stripper” walking through the grocery store – and that doesn’t even raise an eyebrow in the “community.” They’re passing the p***y around like a platter and don’t care if the girl has major mileage with half the crew – otherwise why would there be such a long line of black athletes lining up for a Kardashian. In fact that big manly-looking Kardashian was supposed to be dating NBA superstar James Harden before the Lamar Odom overdose, he just signed a contract worth $100+ million.

    I wouldn’t expect Cam to follow in the footsteps of other star NFL quarterbacks and marry their High School Sweetheart (like Dree Brees, Philip Rivers or Carson Palmer) Apparently Aaron Rodgers is different and slept his way through much of Hollywood, though.

  72. Has it been that long since you’ve spent any time with your dad’s people?

    (Sigh!) You sound like Thordaddy; I occasionally tell my work colleagues about how some on these sites consider me some sorta Ultimate-Oreo socially —– and they laugh, ‘cuz they know that I often go a couple weeks at a time in working environments in which the students are 98% non-white and the teachers and administrators are at best 50% white…… (Ironically, today i’m at one of the whitest enrollments in the city.)

    RE. Newton,
    I see your point but i’m just surprised he went all the way and married her, (right?); and/or had a kid with her…. I don’t get why these guys with all this coin get married, period.

  73. Apparently Aaron Rodgers is different and slept his way through much of Hollywood, though.

    That surprises me a bit. HIs current Olivia seems fairly substantiative; plus, rodgers is a relatively cerebral guy for a pro jock with his uc-berkeley pedigree and the fact that he won a round of Jeopardy, celebrity version at least…..i could imagine him holding his own here or at comparable blogs

  74. I don’t get why these guys with all this coin get married, period.

    True dat. Derek Jeter did it right. Party your way through a slew of 9s and 10s, then retire and find your baby mama, 15 years your junior and a stone cold perfect 10. THAT’s how a star athlete should play the game in these decadent times.

  75. True dat. Derek Jeter did it right. Party your way through a slew of 9s and 10s, then retire and find your baby mama, 15 years your junior and a stone cold perfect 10. THAT’s how a star athlete should play the game in these decadent times

    I dunno, even finding a young trophy wife is still questionable if her family is not well-to-do. Probably a better idea to sow your wild oats and then marry a cute school teacher or nurse.

    Otherwise, if you don’t take good breeding into account there’s too much chance for her and her side of the family to be a financial drain with short-sighted money management and bad spending habits. One of the common reasons star athletes are broke within a few years after their playing days is the inability to say “NO” to family (and hangers-on) who ask for financial help – marrying someone from a decent class of family makes that a non-issue.

    Today they just announced that Marshawn Lynch is retiring from football and that he has saved his entire $49 million+ career salary, while living off his endorsement money alone. I tip my hat to him, but considering his somewhat surly demeanor he’s definitely not the black athlete I’d expect to be the poster child for fiscal responsibility:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/marshawn-lynch-reportedly-hasnt-spent-152823197.html

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