“Dispatches from a Besieged City”

Here is a fragment from Zbigniew Herbert’s poem “Dispatches from a Besieged City” (orig. “Raport z oblężonego Miasta”). Herbert wrote this poem during Poland’s 1981-1983 Martial Law as an allegory for that event, using imagery from the 1939 siege of Warsaw and the 1944 Uprising to tell a larger story of nations that are under attack. Do we know of any nations that are under attack today?

Translated excerpts from Herbert’s poem:

Too old to carry a weapon and fight like the others —
I was assigned by their grace the chronicler’s role
I write — do not know for whom — about the siege
I have to be exact but I do not know when the raid precisely began
two hundred years ago last December September maybe yesterday at dawn
all of us here ail of the loss of the sense of time
[…]
I write as well as I can to the rhythm of endless weeks
Monday: the warehouses are empty the rat became a unit of currency
Tuesday: the mayor has been murdered by unknown perpetrators
Wednesday: talks of a ceasefire the enemy interned our emissaries
we don’t know of their whereabouts read: their place of slaughter
Thursday: after a stormy meeting the majority rejected
the spice merchants’ proposal for unconditional surrender
Friday: the beginning of plague Saturday: N.N. the steadfast defender
committed suicide Sunday: no water we repelled an attack at the Eastern Gate
[…]
in the evening I like to wander around the borders of the City
along the borders of our uncertain freedom
I look down at the ant heaps of their troops their lights
I listen to the noise of the drums the barbaric screams

[…]

(The full original poem is HERE. Przemysław Gintrowski interprets the poem musically HERE.)

The selected passages above feature a speaker who reports on the everyday conditions of the siege in a resigned and matter-of-fact way. Herbert then shifts the speaker’s tone, over the course of several additional free-verse stanzas, into bitterness and then anger upon noting the ghastly precociousness of the city’s children.

Herbert’s speaker then reaches an epiphany to resist despite the lack of hope. He gets there by connecting his situation to that of history’s other besieged people who have always been ignored, or at best condescendingly pitied, by the rest of the world. He concludes that defending the real and the metaphoric ruins is all that’s left to do.

***

In his Harvard lectures that he later compiled and published in a volume titled “The Witness of Poetry,” Czesław Miłosz said that in reading the scribbled notes of concentration camp inmates, he noticed that it was not educated adults, but rather children who most vividly described their conditions.

One of the worst thing a child can feel is a recognition that he is abandoned by trusted adults. And in thinking about cities under siege from a child’s — or in this case a teenage girl’s — point of view, see a German girl’s now-famous YouTube video, which was banned from Facebook. The brave 16-year-old girl, named Bibi Wilhailm, makes a heartfelt appeal for help. She also denounces the adults and authority figures who have abandoned her to the terror of the refugees.

Her video is at the end of this post. Here is a transcript of her words from the English subtitles:

16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country (Engl. subs)   [title of the YouTube video]

Hello, you can read the newspapers but this video is about the real situation in Germany. I would like to tell everyone about this on Youtube and Facebook. I am almost 16. I would like everyone to know what is going on, what I am authentically feeling at this moment.

And I am so scared everywhere. For example, if my family and I go out together, or if I see a movie with my friends. Usually I stay at home, but sometimes I stay out until 6 pm in winter, and it is so scary. It is just very hard to live day-to-day life as a woman.

I just want to say that I am not a racist. But one day, a terrible thing happened at the supermarket. I ran all the way home. I was so frightened for my life. There’s no other way to describe it.

My aunt and her friend have said you have to grow up. Why should we, children, have to grow up in such fear? It’s not just me, my friends too. You can see on Facebook, a 17 year old attacked, a 15 year old attacked, two 12-year olds attacked, so many. It is really so sad that this is happening … because of YOU PEOPLE.

I cannot understand why they do this. But more importantly, I cannot understand why Germany is doing nothing! Why is Germany standing by, watching, and then doing nothing? Please explain, why. Men of Germany, these people are killing your children, they are killing your women. We need your protection. We are so scared, we don’t want to be frightened to go to the grocery store alone after sunset. The politicians live alone in their villas, drink their cocktails, and do nothing. They do nothing! I do not know what world they live in, but please, people, please help us! Please, do something! I cannot understand why this is happening. One day, my friend and I were walking down the street, and a group of Arabs were protesting and demonstrating. They shouted, “Allah! Allah! Allah is the one God! Kill those infidels! Allah Allah!” What should I do? Should I wear a burka? Why should I have to convert to Islam?

It’s fine if you believe in Allah, but why do you want to make everyone else believe in Allah too? I just think it would be better if there were no religion. Stop trying to make everyone else believe in your God when they do not want to.

Please, people of Germany. Do something!

When I try to tell the authorities about what has happened, they hold their hand up towards me and they say it is a problem and then ignore it. and they laugh. It is unfair. They laugh at us. They say we are dumb. They think this not only of me, but of the entire state of Germany. They don’t care about our fear. Please help us. This is an emergency! There are more and more of them.

One time in summer, the Muslims said we were sluts for walking outside in a t-shirt.

Yes, we were wearing t-shirts. It’s summer!

Another day, I was wearing this. My friend and I purchased it while shopping hehe. If we feel like wearing it, we will wear it! And you Muslims have no right to physically assault or rape us for it! God willing, never in my life. You have no right to attack us because we are wearing t-shirts. You also have no right to rape.

The life of Germany has changed because these people cannot integrate. We give them so much help. We support them financially and they do not have to work. But they only want more babies and more welfare and more money. Men of Germany, please, patrol the streets and protect us. Do this for your women and your children. If you do that, I believe that we will have a chance.

This sort of action would be wonderful. We would be so grateful and thankful. So many thanks, if steadily, more men would come to protect us. We are so scared.

I am so upset about what Merkel has done.

Thank you, Angela Merkel, for killing Germany! I have no more respect for you, Merkel. I do not think you know what you have done. You do not see how our lives have changed. Open your eyes! Is this normal? Should I, a 16-year old who is almost 17, be so scared to walk outside my house? No, it is not normal. You have killed Germany!

This is the truth. We are no longer allowed to walk outside. We are no longer allowed to wear our clothes. We are no longer allowed to live the German life. This is the sad truth.

I think it’s about time to end this video. I believe I have given a full account from a normal person. I hope others can see this and understand.

I only want to end with one message: Men, please, help your women. Help your children. I am so scared. My friends have the same fear. We are shocked that this has happened. I hope this video can convince you, and that this terrible events can stop.

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114 thoughts on ““Dispatches from a Besieged City”

  1. This is old news in the US. The small town I grew up in was over run by blacks pushed out of LA about 5-10 years after I left it. When I would return to visit my parents the only kids I saw where packs of 10-12 year old niglets looking for trouble. I went with my dad to buy ice cream and a 3 buff nigs straight out prison mad dogged me coming in and out of right-aid. Once home I asked if my dad if that was common. He pretended he didn’t know what I was talking about. A family friend was trapped in right aid as a group of blacks chimpped out and attacked every white person who walked out. She didn’t think it was a big deal. This right aid was a block from the police station. They obviously ignored such crimes.

    The town is cesspool now but the whites refused acknowledge what was going on, take the most basic level of pro-caution and avoid nigs or fight back. What Germany is experiencing we’ve lived with for 40 years. I have some hope for the Germans. I have very little for us.

  2. From the Russia Today article about the 10 police officers threatened and chased away from the Refugee Center in Sweden, for trying to extract a 10-year-old boy who was reportedly being raped there,

    Just this Monday a young woman, a refugee center worker in Mölndal, was stabbed to death when an argument broke out at the center for underage unaccompanied refugees. Alexandra Mezher, 22, was taken to hospital with severe injuries and later died.

    She was stabbed by a 15-year-old boy who was later arrested on suspicion of murder. Mezher’s thesis was titled ‘The Road to Non-Criminal – A Lifestyle Change’. She believed that creating a trustful relationship with people was key for a social worker. The center where she worked housed 10 youths aged between 14 and 17.

    This is a google image search of the murder victim, the Swedish woman Mezher, and that is her in the red with the face.

    It is an interesting looking face. Very strong bones, and good enough looking – if a man can handle that much woman – but she rode the bullshit train to the last stop.

  3. How do supporters of the immigrant invaders overlook the homosexual pedophilia and the rape that goes with it?

    The politically correct consensus is to figure and pretend that it is a lot of hype, and that such behavior is as reviled and despised there as it is here.

    How frequent and commonplace is it. What percentage of boys are anally penetrated by adult males, in the broad swath of the Muslim world? Apparently the girls are not subject to that particular abuse.

    That behavior and those who practice it, are somewhat protected by the taboos that surround it. Which is ironic. Because those taboos (around degenerate sexual behavior) are in place in this society as a means to control that behavior – but then see how they work to allow for it, in this cross-cultural mire.

  4. Regarding the video, 16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country.

    Yeah, definitely worth someone’s time. Sometimes i wish i were still on fagbook just to post that. But that adds up to nothing. Oh i’ll post this! and everyone will agree … and then what?

    Most people don’t want to get up in arms because the trouble. People will do it when they have no other choice – there is no doubt about that.

    Once home I asked if my dad if that was common. He pretended he didn’t know what I was talking about.

    I know that reaction exactly. When i complain about the tough reality that is taking over – everyone is always making excuses. “Oh they’re just kids testing the waters, seeing what they can get away with. It’s just kids, doing what they do!” / smiley faces all around

    Yeah but they are not “just kids” they are also animals engaged in threat display, and their behavior goes on until it is contained, and this permissive do-nothing attitude is exactly what allows for it.

  5. I’m a bit confused by how things got to this point; I recall going to France, Belgium, der Hague-Rotterdam-Amsterdam ten or eleven years ago and being bewildered by the sovereign passivity and migrant surge even then; I would value any recommendation links, texts, etc. that could serve as a primer on recent EU history, policies and polemics..

    Specifically, I don’t clearly see what the selfish-gain is to the globalists; it clearly exists, as you don’t see people and even most politicos acts in ways that are plainly contrary to their prudent self-interest, but that’s what’s going on and such acts seem like they’re buttressed by populist sentiment as well (minus those very recent countering links like the one cited by commenters earlier in this thread).

    The act that really blew me away and got me interested by shining light on my ignorance re. this topic was that amnesty granted by that Lockerbie bomber, the amnesty-for-a-arms-deal thing involving top Scottish politicos and Blair. I mean, HTF did that ever get off the ground?

  6. Why is it proving easier for nations to have thrown off the yoke of Communism then for nations to throw off the yoke of Progressivism? It’s an interesting question.

  7. Camlost — it will be a thing of beauty when Euro countries cooperate on expelling the aliens. When they DON’T cooperate, it can be black comedy. Example from Poland from last summer when the cuck party still ran the country and agreed to EU’s refugee quotas: a new apartment complex in Gdansk was set aside for the the refugees. I always suspected that the location was chosen for its very close proximity to the Sweden-bound ferry port. Second example: a small town received a bona-fide refugee family, in that it was a husband-wife with a couple of kids thing. They got a little house to live in and even a donated car. Since the family was very nice and friendly, the locals gave them a nice welcome. One morning, according to the online article, the refugee family got into their car and left for Germany. I laughed. In both cases, the bigger gibsmedats trumped. (The Gdansk thing never materialized as a patriotic party swept last fall’s elections and reneged on admitting aliens.)

    Thor — yes. Liberalism is a taught spiritual vacuum. Also, there is still the “I’m not a racist, but…” frame. Understandable, given the already brave girl’s reservations and fear, and effort to placate the Neo-Gestapo.

    Laguna — when help comes, we know one thing: it will not come in the form of Swedish policewomen.

    Jimmy — there was an article I read years ago, maybe on Amren, about the kind of things you describe in the late 60s just after the Civil Rights coup d’etat. And worse, like high schoolers on field trips to a city getting raped and stabbed. All those things were swept under the rug and the official lie narrative prevailed. But they lost the media minopoly, thanks to the internet. It is a once-per-millennium game changer. Without it, we’d all still think that Cologne was full of sweet Syrian families attacked by loser Pegida thugs, of whom there are maybe 15 in all of Germany.

    Elk — on fagbook, posting articles or videos is futile because nobody reads them. I don’t even open things from friendly perspectives. Memes/clever images may work. Ultimately, we are beyond issues, beyond persuasion. It is now all about identity, to include the boundary between SJWs and Nationalists.

    Nikcrit — one element is the postwar Allied brainwashing of the European upper class. Up until the 1980 cohort, I’d guess. I mentioned this at CH a few days ago. I’ve been friends with a few upper class Germans since high school, and all were full-retard libs. Despite their extensive travel throughout the USA and pleasant experiences everywhere, they had that snarky and infantile view of Americans as cartoon cowboys and rabid klansmen. They found American flags and gun ownership terrifying because “next hitler.” According to bloggers and commenters who live in W. Europe (like Vox Day or Carlos Danger), young Europeans are as a whole rejecting the post-war liberalism and they are angry.

  8. Peterike: I’ve wondered about that too. There have been guesses offered elsewhere. Because proggism still delivered economically? Because there is no Free World to aspire to?

  9. “Because proggism still delivered economically?”

    Yes, that’s a big part of it. All the toys, the distractions.

    “Because there is no Free World to aspire to?”

    Ahh, but there is. The “free world” for whites is our past, and not even the very distant past. Yet that past has been totally distorted by Progs into the dark land of racism, sexism, blah blah. When what it really was was a place of communities and solidarity. But we’re never allowed to know that.

    Call it what you will, much of what we do around here is about moving backward into the future, or forward into the past.

  10. Ahh, but there is. The “free world” for whites is our past, and not even the very distant past. Yet that past has been totally distorted by Progs into the dark land of racism, sexism, blah blah.

    To me, the past to, umm, ‘re-aspire’ to is the early-to-mid’90s; the I.T. revolution, a time when the riskier funds in your 401k would routinely do 35%+ in a given quarter. Those days when a proper reading of the Gilder Report could finance your new car in three-to-six months…… I could do without those darkland days of ‘racism’ though.

  11. There is a symbiotic regression… A right-before-your-eyes nexus between the “white” self-annihilators of the West and the jihadi faggots which just is the homo-sexual “nature” where homo=same=EXACT SAME=self… The vicious, degenerate cycle revolves around radical sexual autonomy as “highest” worldly value per nihilism and “highest” eternal value per Islam and 72 virgins for eternal smashing. Each drive each other towards annihilation and pick up anything in their path as though an unstoppable tornado.

    [Good visual in that last sentence. -PA]

  12. While I understand her suffering, I am forced to say that the only sensible answer for any men for such plea is, and for a long time will always be, “no, we won’t help you”.

    Remember, men, you have no stakes in such society. This is the society that not only demonizes you, humiliates you, and constantly portray you as the worst possible kind of being, but also this is the society that welcomed such refugees, that protects them and excuses their behavior.

    This is the society that not only did not prosecute a man for attempting to rape a girl, but also is actually prosecuting said girl for defending herself from said man.

    You have no stakes in such society. This is nothing more than nationwide “He for She”. Nothing more than society demanding men to shoulder the responsibility for women’s wrong decisions, yet again.

    If women want your help, our help, as men, they will have it when society belongs to us, once more.

  13. The cold, hard logic of dystopian degeneration IS self-annihilation… FINAL LIBERATION. So in fact, “we” are narrating this into reality to the degree that “we” push it and other imbibe it. It’s very fluid though. It would be a great miscalculation to pretend as though many WHITE Germans (this is who we are REALLY concerned about if we are indeed concerned in this particular instance) WERE NOT DESIROUS of their own annihilation. IT IS THE LOGIC of degenerating despair! So when another side of the prism comes running to announce a “genocide” (the de facto rally cry FOR ALL radical liberationist movements) THEN THE EFFECT is to hide and obscure A MASS “white” SELF-ANNIHILATION… Symbiotic regression at work… The radical liberationist screams “genocide” to disappear his inevitable disappearance. Goes to the dustbin without leaving any evidence that HE DESIRED THE DUSTBIN. That’s existential crisis. Identity crisis. Anti-white… Supremacy.

  14. [Good visual in that last sentence. -PA]

    OK, but now care to deconstruct the rest of the paragraph?

    [It can mean almost anything because the high-abstraction register is not anchored in concrete points of reference. -PA]

    In the last thread, I gleaned that Thor is now claiming that I am the only commenter to this blog who is truly aspiring to ‘real white supremacism;” needless to say, i have some questions about that.

    My exchanges with Thor are starting to make me feel like Charlie Brown and his field-goal attempts with Lucy as holder.

  15. A jihadist converts and is rewarded all in one act of self-annihilating mass murder… The murder of Allah’s enemies IS SECONDARY to the self-annihilation of the jihadi as SHOWN FAITH to Allah… The reward is 72 virgins for ETERNAL smashing…. Radical sexual autonomy.

    The proliferation of jihadis in the WEST DRIVES DESPAIR AND EMBRACE OF NIHILISM… Nihilism is self-annihilation… In the West, “we” self-annihilate BECAUSE “we” EMBRACE radical sexual autonomy in the here and now… HOMO-sexuality, abortion, miscegenation, divorce, transexuality, etc…

    It’s a symbiotic regression… “We” seek radical sexual autonomy in the world and jihadis seeks it the afterworld… Both drive each other to obtain their ends. The jihadi blows shit up and the nihilist says no use for anything but more nihilism to which the jihadi has more excuse to blow up shit… This is what is going down right now… This degenerate cycle.

    [I understand what you wrote here. -PA]

  16. Leandro – A valid point, until children /innocent teenagers are involved. They are a clean slate as well as our own future and we do have an obligation to them, barring any disqualifying circumstances.

  17. [I understand what you wrote here. -PA]

    Yes, I like the logic and explanation attached to the descriptives of how cultural moral decline specifically manifests; what i don’t get is your insistence that certain birthright claims and attributes alone are enough to doom one’s fate…… that would seem to go against your frequent heralding of God’s Free Will, no?

  18. Despite their extensive travel throughout the USA and pleasant experiences everywhere, they had that snarky and infantile view of Americans as cartoon cowboys and rabid klansmen. They found American flags and gun ownership terrifying because “next hitler.”

    It’s a distorted take and interpretation of the unique American ‘pioneering’ aspect; the Daniel-Boone-like element, unique to White Europeans settled in the new world and a trait-evident ethos that exists to this day, particularly among white males born-and-raised west of the Mississippi, or in any to a large degree rural environment.

    Europe doesn’t have anywhere near the lopsided personal-living-to-square-mile rate that Americans do, barring the Northeast beltway and other heavily populated metroplises; the militia and lone wolf-type behavior is American and to a large degree fostered by the kind of relativ environmental isolation much of its citizenry has; it makes sense, given the kind of enviromental-lit study commenters like elk often cite: it plays on one’s psych and/or behavior given you grow up on trailer in a desert range with nobody around for miles or in a Chicago apartment district with thousands above you and beside you within a single mile.

    Anyhow, I think that is the major difference between the white American and the White European; and that American distinction is often treated condescendingly in literature and other forms of cultural posterity; the writer Cormack McCarthy is expert and distinguishing and drawing upon that American quality in his work; Harold Bloom says American apocalypse will come about through some result of America “for 300 years being obsessed by ‘God and guns.'”

    True enough, perhaps ——- but that fact still can make form cheesey generalizations about American civil society.

  19. And then you understand that the “white” self-annihilator and jihadist is just one of the symbiotic regressive relationships… There are also the relationships between the “white” self-annihilator and “The Chosen Ones,” the nigger and his negroes, the migger and his spawn and the homodyke “elite.” Each its own unique kind of symbiotic regression and mutual self-annihilation.

  20. Nikcrit…

    You’re only doomed to the degree that you pay homage to “equality” in determining the origin of your desire for objective Supremacy? Such desire is simply not found in the mulatto archetype. Although, some are fervently attempting to inject the archetype with such desire.

    You’re also doomed if you “like” the logic. You should hate it. It’s killing you.

  21. You’re also doomed if you “like” the logic. You should hatet.

    RE. this instance, the rhetorical use of “like”=”comprehend” more than “prefer” or “welcome”

  22. Nikcrit…

    I disagree… Other things ALONG with this statement says DESIRE…

    You want to cast yourself in an epoch, BUT you hesitate and balk. The trend says your genetic code is buried with you and you do not see yourself as evolutionary hybrid?

    You forget that when you were a wee little baby that you bonded PHYSICALLY… And that you were equally different from both parents. “We” know what the science says about “racist” baby preference and SO WHERE does that leave the Rick Foxes, Jada Pinketts, Nikcrits and the like?

    What was your father’s relationship to “black supremacy?”

    Who of your parents was the actual assimilationist?

    Do you really believe “blacks” bring a physicality to compliment the “white” mentality and that you represent this mold?

    Why are you not passing on a part of yourself? Why is there a desire for total annihilation?

  23. Thordaddy, Nikcrit, I’m actually finding your conversation interesting. One request: can you continue it on the “Superman” thread? I prefer this comment thread to stay on the original topic.

  24. Yes please…
    In fact, I think nikcrit and thordaddy should get a room and self annihilate each other.

    What a bunch of tedious nonsense. Nikcrit I’m sorry to say these exchanges have made me question your grip on reality.

  25. MGE…

    What’s tedious is listening to a bunch of high IQ “white” males ABSOLVE themselves of the decline of civilization DUE the undeniable FACT that they WILL NOT BE genuine white Supremacists. Your desensitized self is to think “trivial” when the realization is rather profound. As anti-white Supremacists, the white race dies… By cosmic algorithm if need be conceptualized.

    [Let’s let be the last word on Thordaddy’s cosmology under this thread. -PA]

  26. Thordaddy,

    [redacted. No more comments on TD’s system on this thread. -PA]

    It’s a distorted take and interpretation of the unique American ‘pioneering’ aspect;

    I know your pop culture days are over but did you see The Revenant yet? It reminded me very much of Blood Meridian.

  27. “It’s fine if you believe in Allah,” says frightened 16 year old German female…

    This was MY FIRST COMMENT… The utter pathology IS FOUND in the high IQ “white” male’s acquiescence!

    HE IS FINE with Allah too and kinda digs the “heaven” that awaits the converted jihadist martyr.

  28. I would have been interested in MGE’s comment, which was presumably criticism.

    How else are repetitive and otherwise foolish posters kept in check, but with criticism?

  29. Oh, by the way…. I have a 16 year old Germanic daughter… How about you fellas?

    As an argument, an internet character’s author, whoever he may be – an internet character’s author as an argument fails.

    Bragging online is not the end of the world. It IS bad form and it happens often enough – but it doesn’t make your posts more relevant or intelligible.

    Realistically thordaddy, you might try using this forum and this media, as an exercise in communication. I have said so much to you before, and so have others.

  30. If you guys want to take a break from the personal stuff and read something interesting, take a look at the Australian publication that linked to my “Stray Lambs” post this morning. Pingback is at the bottom of that post’s comment thread. It’s Visegrad related, if that’s your interest.

  31. Lol… Foolish is being a drunk.

    Agreed. And i have accepted the criticisms for such, and reacted accordingly.

    You, on the other hand – have not reacted accordingly to the frequent and proper criticism that comes your way. People don’t bother criticizing you because they consider it a waste of time.

    I think PA makes a huge mistake in shielding you from criticism, and allowing you the run with your endless arrant remarks.

  32. Bragging? Where was I bragging? Shielded from criticism? You must be joking?

    Are you “fine” with the believers of Allah like this 16 year old German female or not? Can “we” get back on topic?

  33. Can “we” get back on topic?

    Sounds great.

    Are you “fine” with the believers of Allah like this 16 year old German female or not?

    It is hardly surprising that a 16-year-old girl might not have her theology robustly drawn into line with her personal interests and those of her people and culture. What she understands of her own interests, and how they have to be expressed, is going to be limited, by her own experience – and more sadly, by her own culture.

    As far as my take on Allah. That is a fine question and i will give it some thought. Off the top of my head, i am opposed.

    What about you, what is your take on Allah?

  34. OMG, Antifa in Germany recently posted this on their Facebook site and twitter feed:

    I don’t know anything about them, but I truly hope that they don’t have a sizable following in Germany.

  35. In regard to that link to the Daily Mail article, Blonde Danish girl who stabbed her mother to death after being radicalised by watching ISIS execution videos online is jailed for nine years.

    I nominate that article for the Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame for well written articles that you can’t believe. I won’t try and summarize – it is very well written and the details are totally worth it.

    And this wasn’t just any 15-year-old Danish girl, obsessed with ISIS and with an Iraqi boyfriend promising to her loving delight to whisk her away to Syria and “fight for the ISIS cause” – no this is not just any such girl – it is a blonde one.

    But seriously check out that page layout. The Daily Mail has had a lot of practice, in getting just right its presentation of these stories. Poor young girl. Crazy man from … wherever the fuck – and you won’t believe their ensuing hijinks! This particular includes not just a plan to run away! but matricide too, and an identical twin, and the likely sexual pairing of a sweet young swing with an ugly as ass Arab. Don’t you worry about getting with that HB 8.5 – she is already spoken for, and unless you are willing to stick a kitchen knife in her mother and 20 times, you just don’t have what it takes! you lame ass loser.

    But in considering those very real details, one has to call into question the mental health of this Borch girl – and also what exactly mental health means, when considering girls of her age and cultural disposition.

    A final editorial comment (and then dinner). Both the girl and her Iraqi boyfriend were convicted of the murder, and he gets 13 years, and the girl gets 9. In America they might get less, but that seems awfully light.

    What do you have to do to get 20 or 30, kill an Arab?

  36. I nominate that article for the Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame for well written articles that you can’t believe. I won’t try and summarize – it is very well written and the details are totally worth it.

    As I was reading the only thing I could think was “I would bet $500 that she doesn’t have her biological father at home” and, surely enough, the article starts talking about her stepfather before the end.

  37. Camlost. that sign is photoshopped. Someone replaced “refugees” with “rapists” digitally. Just copied “RACISTS” and replaced the C with a P. I wish it were real — it would mean that the Left is having a complete mental breakdown.

  38. Heh, that’s pretty much what I did in changing the Peace Symbol into a guillotine in that Paris 2015 post. Just re-used the existing elements of the peace symbol and then moved/separated/resized them as needed.

  39. that sign is photoshopped.

    Ok, good I sure hope so. I can’t find it on the Antifa page myself, despite the alleged screen shot taken.

  40. “WILL TRADE RAPISTS FOR RACISTS”

    A response to this needs an emoticon. All i want to say is, “Really?” but with just that tone, that seasoned skepticism, that inflection that all the cool kids can do. You know what i am talking about.

    You want to trade racists for rapists. – Really?

    She is a sweet young swing – however even already can be seen, and not just from her actions, that she is messed up. Look at how tight and scrunched is her face, and her neck is tense. Her “sexuality” is not being “expressed.”

    Sorry for the porn analysis – but you know that’s the case. All these ripe (blonde) teenagers (and she is blonde all the way too) – are longing and yearning for a return to a meaningful life where they get to give life rather than have it sucked out of them in this thankless dark dank worthless maze of a society that used to be civilization, or white civilization even, once upon a time! but not no more now! no thanks not no more now no longer.

  41. Cross posted – i see your comments PA, regarding the sign.

    As is often noted – parody is hard to tell nowadays.

  42. Ok, whew glad that I was fooled. It seems that they were trolling a small fringe group within the larger Antifa, which calls itself anti-Germany and is still performing Medieval-style self-flagellation over WW2. Their page on Facebook only has a few hundred followers worldwide…

  43. Nikcrit I’m sorry to say these exchanges have made me question your grip on reality.

    Yeah, you may be right….hha. i recall back at GLP you chiding me for hanging in there with Thor; up until a few weeks before you reappeared here, i hadn’t conversed with him since GLP folded. So i sorta file you and other commenters from glp with his presence now….idk, there’s something interesting about the guy, his meta-maybe-even-TOO-meta approach to philosophy and dialectic.
    Whatever, but what is indisputable is the fact that such elongated back-n-forth is intrusive and bad form at someone else’s blog; for that, I apologize to our host and you and other regular commenters.
    We all have our excesses; and i don’t think it’s presumptuous for me to think that, perhaps, given that the core here is familiar with each other, we tend to accomodate each others ‘excesses’ a bit more than if we were totally unfamiliar….avatars.

    btw, I forgot to reply to something you wrote a couple of weeks ago; something about you swilling some syrup with a few beers after work at some rowdy bar gig or something?
    MAN, LEAVE THAT SHIT ALONE! I cannot tell you how many people i’ve known and lost over the years due to some form of liquid or solid opiate.

  44. idk, there’s something interesting about the guy, his meta-maybe-even-TOO-meta approach to philosophy and dialectic.

    I have no idea what dude is saying. But we’re all wasting our time here if that type of needlessly arcane and impractical rhetoric is the gateway to the alt-right’s end goal of expanding white advocacy amongst the wider population

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  49. Trickin’- surely you remember that “In Living Color” character who used all the big words? Played by Damon Wayans and lightly mocked black revolutionaries.

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  51. CamLOST…

    You have no real skin in the game… So what in the world is going to make you fight for your life?

    It comes natural to me to JUST fight AND I HAVE skin in the game.

  52. “Trickin’- surely you remember that “In Living Color” character who used all the big words? Played by Damon Wayans and lightly mocked black revolutionaries.”

    Yeah, I do; Oswald Bates… actually, once at GLP, some guy accused me of being Oswald Bates beause I had inadvertently typed “emphasis” when I meant to say “empathize.”….. In fairness, a bunch of regulars came to my defense —– even a few white-righters whose ideology is staunchly opposed to me and mine. One guy said words to the effect of : “don’t insult nikcrit like that; Obsidian is Oswald Bates.” ……Low blow! lol!!

  53. CamLOST…

    Are you “fine” with Allah and his believers?

    Are you “fine” with a god who will do ANYTHING and those who worship such a god?

    Are you “fine” with a believer in 72 virgins for eternal smashing on ACCOUNT of an act of self-annihilating mass murder?

    Does the above make PERFECT SENSE to you? You “fine” with that?

  54. If an individual like Mencius Moldbug cannot conceive how degenerately deleterious it is to deny Perfection, ie., objective SUPREMACY…. Then the violent mass has won!!!

  55. MGE: did you see The Revenant yet? It reminded me very much of Blood Meridian.

    Nah, i”m pretty much done with screening rooms or much any kind of public performance. but i may see it at home (i just got a new 55″ 4k-def t.v., being delivered this weeek! pretty rare for me)..,,i’ve read cormac mccarthy; i sorta respect and nod toward his mantle but i don’t really get into his stuff personally, too starck and harrowing thematically for my tastes; i cited him only because his work and legend well-served my point. That trailer you posted seemed interesting but not the kind of stuff i care to follow for a few hours.

  56. What sort of breeding regime does a religion need to mass produce a perpetuating class of mass murdering self-annihilators? And what kind of “reward” would you give them so as to “trigger” them to express their “faith” absolutely?

  57. Wow, the UK has gone completely mad. David Cameron under fire for using “bunch of migrants” phrase in discussing migrant camps in Calais, and for saying “learn English” to immigrant Middle Eastern spouses after research shows that only 22% can speak functional English after 2 years in the UK:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/27/cameron-bunch-of-migrants-calais-pmqs-holocaust-memorial-day

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/18/guardian-view-on-david-cameron-learn-english-message-finger-wagging-bad

  58. Cam,

    I think i know how you’re feeling and i’m often of similar mind, but just bear with thor (as for now, any further exchanges should move to the trickin thread, per our host’s wishes)….. I, too, sometimes feel punked for taking the thor bait. but as i said sometime earlier in winter, a few times of year all that dense, high-abstraction analysis and observation yields a real, true gem of a proverb; iow: it sometimes pays off, however much a strain to go through his kind of filtering…

    Thor,
    [Redacted because I also redacted TD’s response to your (reasonable) comment. -PA]

  59. nikcrit – thanks for the concern but I added the cough syrup for dramatic effect … sorta… well there was the one time I was actually really sick, took some nyquil and had a couple gin n tonics, and overslept. No, it wasn’t “purpa drank” you are thinking of, which is made from a codeine-promethazine formulation. Just over the counter Nyquil.
    Also… I do NOT work at a bar. Not sure what made you think that.

    I still say you should drop your ‘Man on the Mountain’ soothsayer schtick

    “Man on the Mountain” is generous. I’d say he reads more like a Dr. Bronner’s soap label.

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  61. Thordaddy, I asked you (and only you) earlier to limit your comments here to two per thread plus responses to other commenters’ questions to you. I am now repeating my request. If you abuse my patience I will begin deleting your comments at whim. Make them few, make them good.

  62. PA…

    You KNKW it does not matter to ME what you do AS LONG AS YOU UNDERSTAND that you either a) advance wS or b) maximize your autonomy.

    And deleting on a “whim” is advancing your radical autonomy…

    And the FACT that you do it in response to one responding to those WHO MADE IT PERSONAL… It’s punk! And more radical autonomy to boot.

    It’s called “no rhyme or reason.”

    [I asked you to stop promoting your philosophy on this thread. I explained earlier why I want you to limit that kind of commenting. Please respect the work I do here and comply. -PA]

  63. This is a fun listen-to but is Richard Spencer gay?

    Just a joke now but he might want to work on his radio persona. Am i right or am i right. Ricky_Vaughn99 on the other hand sounds like he might be doing hits for the mob, had he gone on to another career path – very sexy! very much NOT gay.

    Since it is a slow morning – you all have noted the train station clean-up in Stockholm. Swedish masked men doing a little housecleaning. Interesting that Sweden is often cited as the most gay place on Earth, and yet it is there that this story emerges. Things are not what they seem – or rather they are often exactly what they don’t seem!

    It’s tricky that way.

    But that sort of street action, i don’t think it’s too likely in America.

    My other thought this morning, is how the criminal enterprises that have set up shop here in USA, and i am specifically thinking of Mexican and Hispanic drug gang organizations – is how they ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. They are here to stay all the way, they are very “serious people”, they have been self-selected from hundreds of millions, to be the most serious ruthless efficient and effective, at their trade, which is running criminal enterprise, which involves all that.

    And my basic point is that they have grown into those skillz their whole lives. Not even considering the necessary psych profiles, i am talking about the using the necessary technology and being fluent in that. From No Country for Old Men,

    I dont know that law enforcement benefits all that much from new technology. Tools that comes into our hands comes into theirs too. Not that you can go back. Or that you’d even want to. We used to have them old Motorola two way radios. We’ve had the high-band now for several years. Some things aint changed. Common sense aint changed.

    Common sense we still get to have, but as a white middle class American i didn’t know that criminal enterprise was what it was all about, and while i have spent my time here on Earth engaged in peaceful pastimes and whatnot, these other guys have not. So they have had a head start. I see these guys once in awhile and they are easy to recognize because they have a lot of confidence and they look like bad guys. I saw two guys at that L-shaped mall, some years ago. There was no doubt that they were heavies for like the Chechen mob or something. They were that dark hairy strange white, big BIG, and classy leather jackets and shoes. So out of place around here. I look at them and think, “i know who you are, but yeah you are right to laugh at us, we are a bunch of fat pigs (and them pigs is the best of us).”

    But the people who succeed in that competition are the Best at it. Those guys are smart, they know how to use the necessary technology, the cars and guns and computers, and they know about people and their failings and faults. And requirement number one is ready hand.

    So they are not going anywhere without being made to do so. It would require a total shake-up of this here society so that they are not the guys running the market. Good luck we are going to need it.

  64. “i am specifically thinking of Mexican and Hispanic drug gang organizations – is how they ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.”

    Indeed they are not. And they are just a part of our immigrant criminality. The amount of insurance fraud, Medicaid/Care fraud, disability fraud, prescription fraud (giving pain pills to people who don’t need them but sell them), welfare fraud and so forth is vast and growing, and the great bulk of it run by Pakistanis, Asians, Russians (mostly Jewish), various Eastern Euros of a dozens stripes, Nigerians, etc. These dollars run into the many billions every year.

    And then you have the human trafficking/forced prostitution, also a huge business and not run by Americans.

    The world beats a path to our door because they know that we’re high-trust suckers, and scamming us is easy as pie. Smaller scale you have contractor scams of all kinds — promise a service, take money, scram. Now how do you find that illegal that gave you a fake name on fake company letterhead? Child’s play.

    A great book or newspaper investigative series could be made around this, but hey, that would be racist.

  65. A great book or newspaper investigative series could be made around this

    I have a new post loosely related to that theme going up this evening.

    Also: I just deleted Thordaddy’s last two comments. He’s also modded and only comments I consider of interest to other readers will be approved.

  66. I just deleted Thordaddy’s last two comments. He’s also modded and only comments I consider of interest to other readers will be approved.

    I have a hunch that I’m about the only one who has a bit of regret about this latest development.

    FWIW, I’m not blind to his grating and outcaste manner and disposition; i know he can be rather redundant (and i wouldn’t be surprised to learn that he was being treated for OCD at one point in his life). But for Lit and other humanities M.A.s who’ve moved on into humdrum professional life and actually miss some of the hypothetical, NON-real-world abstractions that we used to sate ourselves with in philosophy or logic classes, Thordaddy and his metaphysical screeds are a sort-of practical excuse to reindulge those otherwise non-applicable-to-real-life academic exercises that are all but scholastic memories; I’d bet that our blog host somewhat has a similar nostalgia, going by some of the things he’s said about the likes and dislikes of his own academic history.

    Bottom line: He’s a hard sell, but that SOB is on to some meta-social insights that only come with REAL non-partisan detachment (until those instances where they don’t).

    To wit, I found this observation of his at the blog of one AlanB (who’d make rare cameos on gl piggy’s blog, to be unprecedented in academic and mainstream media (speaking of the ‘nowhere-land’ that american/democratic/liberal politics confines the black american, regardless of his or her best or worst intentions:

    You have now drawn us into a debate where we determine nefarious external machinations versus the self-annihilation of the “black” collective. Where is the line between true victim and agent of one’s own demise?
    But better yet…
    How have white people become so psychologically invested in such an intractable dilemma?
    What is the most despicable aspect of the radical “black” collective?
    Is it not its rabid insistence that “it” is the genocidal victim of the “white man?”
    IN REALITY, the radical “black” collective is avant garde in destroyng any genuine notion of a black man withbroad acceptance. The radical “black” collective is in a symbiotic regression with self-annihilating “white” liberals.
    You can’t stop it. You can only try to withdraw from the pull of its media amplified corrupted psychology.

    Agree with that, disagree or be indifferent —– one cannot say that such a screed is not unique; it requires a certain detachment and indifference to status-minded affiliation to even gather such musings, IMO.

    I feel like i’m sticking my neck in giving TD some ‘back’ (for all i really know, he may not at all appreciate as much from me and mine…) but there it is….. I also realize that some of my other, less-enchanted blog mates here may wonder what i’ve been smoking in holding forth in TD’s defense.

    Is there a way for the guy to make his rhetorical points without such a high use of REPETITION?

    Well, there’s really only one commenter who can answer that question…

  67. “i am specifically thinking of Mexican and Hispanic drug gang organizations – is how they ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.”

    Growing liberalism also brings growing laxity in law enforcement, especially with our chief Law Enforcement officers siding with the riffraff during every “controversy”. At some point you won’t have enough white folks left to vote in the law-and-order reformers every 2nd or 3rd election cycle, and then the USA will see the proliferation of private police forces like in South Africa.

  68. My other thought this morning, is how the criminal enterprises that have set up shop here in USA, and i am specifically thinking of Mexican and Hispanic drug gang organizations – is how they ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

    Sometimes I wonder that if Trump is able to get a workable wall built, maybe it could drive up the price of drugs and may cause higher IQ, more professional (pardon the term) and less violent traffickers to get into the game by making it more worth the risk. And I’m pretty sure that in a few years the data on the legalization of marijuana in western states will show that it caused a decrease in a whole swath of crime (although it may have hugely detrimental effects elsewhere in society).

    Not sure about that, but for whatever reason a lot of white Americans seem to think that drug dealing = big money but it doesn’t. As Levitt and Dubner pointed out in Freakonomics most end-level black drug dealers can even afford their own car or apartment and generally live with a mom, sister or old lady who lets him ply his trade but probably still works a crappy legal job herself. Even the mid-level distributors still live in the ghetto, too.

  69. I advised thordaddy to try and communicate, to consider this forum as an exercise in doing just that.

    Anything other than communicating – ANYTHING other than that – is beside the point.

    Some of his ideas were somewhat coherent – but it doesn’t really matter, because they are not persuading people of anything, in fact they were doing exactly the opposite – they were dissuading people of taking an interest, because in their presentation they reflected MONOMANIA, which habit is symptomatic of a thought disorder.

    His INSISTENCE on HIS ideas is tedious. The participants here are intelligent adults, and we don’t need berating with a pet philosophy. And furthermore, the pet philosophy was often offered in the form of personal advice, as if it were the cure toward whatever might be limiting the author of a particular internet character. Very presumptuous, there.

    Over time, over the years, it becomes clear that there are actual personalities involved – actual people – and obviously real people have their problems. To be endlessly told that they are not living up to some ideal of white supremacy? that is comic-book shit.

    To use myself as an example, and in doing so this is not egotistically, it is simply the best example under the circumstances – yeah i know i’m not Conan the Perfect White Supreme Being. Wow, imagine that.

    I will say some embarrassing things here (which i am famous for, after all), and which i will regret, immediately. But a good blog experience has to have tension within the personalities involved. If that tension becomes too resolved (and that tension is inter and intra-personality) – then what else is there to say?

    Politics is personal. The personal is political. I am arguing for a society that better reflects MY interests. I want something out of the deal. Somehow that part of the equation, of the fractal representation of politics as expressed in the wants the desires the interests and life of an individual – somehow that fractal representation, is TWISTED and misused, or left out or something. I have tried to elucidate on this before, and occasionally with some success. It is not really very complicated. However even so, notice how a person’s – say a white advocate’s, but really anybody’s – motives are not just called into question, they are openly ridiculed and mocked.

    Oh you’re just jealous.
    Oh poor you, you just resent that it’s no longer your country.
    Oh you just can’t get laid.

    That kind of “debate”, and that kind of criticism and argument – is debate on the level of Identity. See how someone’s very Identity would be denied? Scott Adams recently wrote that Identity is highest level of argument. I don’t know that that idea is his. It is fairly obvious, right?

    We are all looking for an identity. Here. There, wherever. There is no identity OUT THERE – and THAT is the deep dark dirty secret, and it is behind Trump’s appeal. He has our Identity. He is expressing our Identity.

  70. As Levitt and Dubner pointed out in Freakonomics most end-level black drug dealers can even afford their own car or apartment and generally live with a mom, sister or old lady who lets him ply his trade but probably still works a crappy legal job herself. Even the mid-level distributors still live in the ghetto, too.

    I remember the avatar ‘fred’ from our old ‘Guy White’ days saying the exact same thing and it is utter nonsense; i confronted Leavitt about that; he talked around it informally but later refused to go on the record in the Chicago Reader on the issue; (fyi and fwiw, his comments about how chicago drug dealers were broke and barely making minimum wage was a humongous local gag for years; basically, the property owning classes in communities surrounding U of Chi are first-second-and-third generation Blackstone Ranger-gang drug-dealing clans; there are thousands of young dealers walking around the south-side of chicago with thousands of dollars in their pockets at any given time; the one’s making penny ante profits are the minors in initiative phases of the various gangs’ enterprise; their underage-ness, of course, making them good small-time mules once the product has reached its destination. However, once they make their first upward promotion, they’re quickly making middle-class incomes and more while the established members are the neighborhood’s land-owning classes; drug kingpins endow local buidlings, chairs and scholarships… the idea that no one except a few kingpins profit from drug-dealing is absurd and Leavitt eventually dropped that farcical spiel.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2008/0804.bwallace-wells.html

  71. I wrote this comment earlier, and wasn’t going to post it, because it is not “on the topic” – but since when does that matter?

    Big day tomorrow for Trump supporters. I am going out on a limb and saying Trump is going to get 40 per cent of the Iowa votes, the “caucus-goers”. I don’t know how the caucus system particularly works, it is elaborate and weird. Those crazy Iowans – they really ought to lose the “aren’t-we-special” egotism. They are special people, but so what, a little more modesty would be becoming. Iowans are like Minnesotans but not quite as naive, and they are like Wisconsites but not quite so drunk. In other words, better … but worse. Fuck them and their holier-than-thou attitude.

    If Trump exceeds expectations, that has to be a good sign. I think the estimations are that he will get about 30 per cent and Cruz will get 20-something. So i am saying 40. If he gets 40 per cent, that will be it!

    But i skimmed through the first half of a New Yorker article on Trump called The Duel –
    The Trump and Cruz campaigns embody opposite views of politics and the future of the G.O.P.

    And basically, how obvious does that pretentious mag have to be, in its snobbiness. The obviousness of its snobbery is part of the whole appeal – hey i get it – but even so, could they tone it back a little bit even?

    Starting with the picture at the top (have a look!) – oh so those are Trump supporters (“fucking rubes!”) and then downhill from there.

    The aircraft’s thick door popped open and the candidate appeared. Trump was wearing a shiny blue tie, and from a distance his head looked like a pumpkin-colored balloon on a blue string descending to earth. The announcer said, “Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the next President of the United States, Donald J. Trump,” and the “Air Force One” music gave way to the rousing drum bursts of the anthem played at every Trump rally: Twisted Sister’s “We’re Not Gonna Take It.”

    But it is so just missing the basic basic basic basic basic basic point – that Trump’s appeal, is that people like him! / not exactly rocket science, or apparently it is?

    The article is supposedly comparing Trump to Cruz, and specifically their campaigns.

    I will lend a hand to those sheltered media brats, and tell them what the real comparison is about. The comparison is that Trump looks like a human being, whereas Cruz looks like an eel. As i famously put it on CH – imagine Trump making love. Hey, not a bad picture. His wife is beautiful and you can see him talking dirty to her or whatever, just being human. Now imagine Cruz making love. You can’t because he doesn’t know how.

    Don’t worry i will not ask anyone to picture Rubio engaged in (gay) sex. / sorry too late

    I am scatterbrained right now and it comes cross, but the point is that what is wrong with the people who WILL NOT SEE the appeal of the Man?!

    If even they do not like him for what he represents, that they will not ACKNOWLEDGE what he represents – those ASSHOLES!

    Anyone who is not acknowledging what Trump represents is denying White America – denying White America in every sense and implication.

    Read the article, but then again, it is one of five hundred that reveal the same … (words fail me) … the same disconnect, the same insuperable divide. But it’s more than a difference of perspective, it’s that the perspective of Trump’s faction – his Partisans – is not even allowed to be considered, not even allowed to be taken seriously.

  72. However, once they make their first upward promotion, they’re quickly making middle-class incomes and more while the established members are the neighborhood’s land-owning classes; drug kingpins endow local buidlings, chairs and scholarships

    You’re gonna have to show me a better link, Nik. Surely you can give an example or names.

    Street-level dealers in Chicago making enough money to pay a mortgage? Only in rap music.

    I can’t believe it. Maybe a smart, very senior member of one of the few extremely organized, national gangs, with dozens of members below him. But few of those reach age 35 and that’s elite company to survive that long, without the wannabees from the next block driving by and filling the foyer of that newly purchased home with lead.

    And yes, I’ve seen “American Gangster” just like you but that guy was an outlier, the idea of a black mobster philanthropist who takes care of the neighborhood Don Corleone-style is a myth. Blacks do organized crime about as well as they do anything else organized, these people can’t even shoot straight let alone adhere to a mafia code.

    And why are street dealers always using a public defender if they supposedly have the money to afford a lawyer?

    By the time drugs reach the street level in Chicago how many hands do you think have taken a cut of the profits?

    And “having thousands of dollars in your pocket” is pretty meaningless in an expensive place if you don’t have any bills, own a car and have lots of people to pay to keep your product coming. Often, when they find skid row bums dead of exposure in NYC they have a few grand on them due to social security checks, but that wouldn’t have even paid 1 month of rent if they’d tried to actually pay for a place in the big city. Besides, if it really made that much money smarter people would be doing it.

    And in my own younger days of hard partying at clubs and strip joints I dealt with literally dozens of dealers, I can’t remember a single one of them having their own place or decent car. And when you’d meet up with them somewhere in a car they’d always have their old lady driving them.

  73. Of course the cartels deal with black gangs, they’re the suppliers and the gangs are the distributors. Who else is gonna sell on the streets in Chicago? White people?

  74. Lol.. They don’t have cars, house deeds, etc vuz they have no credit, of often legit identification….they pay their customers to rent cars for them….. I won’t this becuz I know; drug money is the foundation of southside chicago. Jail & criminal records are what keep them from all the visual trappings. Leavitt is a entrepreneur who was promoting a book & he knows no one in his professional milieu has the access to vouchproof his outrageous assertions —- which he’s walked back in recent years…I’ll send better links when I’m back on laptop; on my trusty Moto G right now!!

  75. Well i missed the call on Trump.

    graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/iowa-caucus-results/

    Apparently Microsoft is in a suspicious position with their vote counting machines. I don’t know that i can believe that Iowans, and Americans in general, are as stupid as those results would indicate.

    I don’t get it, i don’t know what is wrong with Rubio and Cruz supporters, or anyone who would vote for Clinton.

    People are wrecked, they are sick and fat and slow, and they don’t want to be put in a position where they have to account for themselves.

    It is going to be a bleak future, whether or not Trump wins. That is the larger point. Trump would help to keep things rolling in America, but that is just forestalling the inevitable ecological catastrophe and population overshoot correction.

    Humans have blown it. And White advocates are not in a position to offer guidance, or a corrective measure, to the very basic problems of how we decide to live on Earth, within a sustainable ecology or not.

    Those two “problems” have to be reconciled. The problem of White interests being un-expressed; and the seeming predicament of humans being unable to care for their living arrangement and environment.

    Trump gives no indication that he is concerned about human ecology – he is a real estate mogul, after all. Trump expresses the problem of White advocacy, and but with an approach to the second situation, that to appearances is “more of the same”.

    Fiddle and dance
    while it burns away
    there is life yet today

  76. Regarding the sub-topic of drug dealers and their income.

    I read the Freakonomics book. Isn’t it weird how One Book will get promoted to the point where all the educated class just has to read it. As if that book had all the answers.

    The selected quote that begins each and every chapter, for most of the book (what is that called anyways, the quote at the top of a book chapter, the lede?), was a praise of Levitt’s brilliance. Just in case you might miss it, “hey you goodthinking white person – listen up, these ARE the answers – all the right people KNOW so.” Outrageous, really – but hey what do you expect from (((our))) publishing industry.

    I think that Sailer took Levitt to task, multiple times, but don’t recall the details. The chapter on names was interesting, about how the middle classes would take names from the classes above them, and now we have a bunch of Madisons. However on that note, the names that got popular are not like Dudley or Ford (but yes on Harrison) – they are rather names that have a little color and flair. My special child, here is your special name. Live in it, dance away the gay. / was i thinking out loud again? fuck!

    That chapter was interesting, but that insight is hardly merits the lofty praises of “our best minds” – that trend would have been noticed by any observant person of the affected classes.

    The controversial assertion was that crime was reduced because black bodies getting the hatchet job in utero otherwise known as sticking a metal instrument up your vagina and carving out the organs of a beating body – or wait, is that not how they refer to abortion. But did Levitt’s analysis of that trend stand up?

    The chapter on urban drug dealers (distributors), black gangs essentially, might have been another colorful paint job. They make a lot of money. Drugs sell like hotcakes.

  77. And in my own younger days of hard partying at clubs and strip joints I dealt with literally dozens of dealers, I can’t remember a single one of them having their own place or decent car. And when you’d meet up with them somewhere in a car they’d always have their old lady driving them.

    Well, then you certainly weren’t out carousing in Chicago, Milwaukee or Minneapolis…. IDK; i’m not really inclined to air out the past re. this particular topic. I’ll just restate my claim and accept any and all flames: THE CLAIM THAT CHICAGO DRUG DEALERS MAKE MINIMUM-WAGE INCOMES IS RIDICULOUS. Anyone with a shred of familiarity to that city’s underworld yet who still believes such nonsense is beyond redemption anyhow.

  78. THE CLAIM THAT CHICAGO DRUG DEALERS MAKE MINIMUM-WAGE INCOMES IS RIDICULOUS.

    Well, of course drug dealers make more money than they would working 40 hrs per week in fast food. By the time taxes are finished with you, min wage probably only pays about $150 to $200 a week in a big city. Anyway, there’s a semantics issue here concerning what exact $$ figures we’re meaning by “a lot of money”.

    I guess we’ll just have to wait until one of these billionaire street corner drug peddlers dealers gives an endowment to the U of Chicago to do a real study.

  79. I guess we’ll just have to wait until one of these billionaire street corner drug peddlers dealers gives an endowment to the U of Chicago to do a real study.

    You laugh and get sarcastic here; but what you say in jest is closer to the truth than that what you and Levitt claim. You’re way off on this one; for instance, re. the ‘don’t have their own car’ claim, 99% of hte time they’re driving late-model rent-a-cars rented in their customer’s names.

    I won’t argue this, cuz i know what i’m talking about; but rememer this: authors and professors act more like publicists and marketers than they do academics and intellectuals if it’s prosperous to do so. It wouldn’t surprise me if Levitt himself laughs off the nonsense he spouted —- laughing on his way to the bank, that is.

  80. Liberal America in one short paragraph.

    That may be, but something that silly and unexamined I think may just be a technical glitch of absent-mindedness —– a mental conveyor-belt malfunciton.

    I mean, how could someone give real consideration to this development and then STILL believes some racial antagonism took place? Wouldn’t the realization that the donor’s name was ‘White’ alleviate the charge? Or, logic be damned and semantics alone is enough to get a conviction?

    Some of this, i believe, is just rote gruel to use in the pursuit of day-to-day competition and score-settling; e.g., no one really believes its gist —- but they nonetheless respect its power in terms of currency to use for purely their own unrelated means.

    it’s got to be more than such literal zealotry, I hope.

  81. I am disappointed to learn of the quotidian explanation on its name (this exciting new fitness center!). I was ready set to join up.

    What the fuck DOES one have to do to get into a white gym?

  82. Apparatchiks are automatons. That is part of the job requirement.

    That is the name of my new political party, which starts today, and is going down to the next council to read them the riot act,

    The Automated Apparatchiks herewith do proclaim, …

    Enough is enough.

    But when it actually comes down to the content of this speech, well than that is the tricky part, isn’t it.

    For real, allow me to consider this exercise and come up with a real speech that you or i will really give at the city council meeting, or whatever equivalent real world forum. How about, …

    Me no likey niggers. Fuckin Arabs. Fuck the Muslims.

    Trump 2016 Bitches!

    Could you do it, Sam Hyde style? Is that protected free speech. People would remember your damned name.

  83. Youz all know who is Sam Hyde?

    I am not a big internet person, i got better things to do with muh time than to stuhrz all day long at the computer screen … but however within my limited exposure to the so-called world wide web, the BEST live performer lampooning America today in all its insufferable idiocy is Sam Hyde. He is a “youtube celeb” yeah baby yeah!

    The kids call this “cringe comedy” – and i tell ya, it is! but it is one of those things that if you can suffer through it (i hate cringe) you remember later and look back and payoff reap rewards, in the form of “laughter”.

    It is not unlikely that, since now i have mentioned him, and given him a good dick-sucking, that he has peaked and already. But still … check out this exciting video!

  84. Trump would help to keep things rolling in America, but that is just forestalling the inevitable ecological catastrophe and population overshoot correction.

    What exactly are you referring to, Sub_elk?

    btw, I couldn’t get the Hyde link to play, though there was no error or infringement msg; anyone else have a prob?

  85. The Sam Hyde link is a Tedx presentation at some second or third tier university.

    I would summarize but it would be better to watch it. It is a spoof of the Tedx genre and a spoof of pc campus culture and a spoof of America, and a spoof of Sam Hyde himself, i suppose too. (Spoof as a word is kind of gay, all of a sudden!)

    It is not a perfect performance, he is a work in progress. But how he seized the opportunity and shows BALLS in just doing it.

    It starts a little slow, but was worth a second watching and it sticks in your head.

    On a side note, such praises as i am giving him, are often ill advised, for a variety of reasons, that get philosophical and are about “the process” – it is better just to appreciate it rather than sit around and talk about it!

    The guy does live street interviews in some trendy Brooklyn neighborhood of Williamsburg. The basic catch of those pieces is that he interviews the passing-by hipsters, and plays on their clueless narcissism. They all buy into what he is doing because there is a camera and they want to talk about themselves. They have nothing to say, but they want to talk about themselves: mostly some variations of “Fuck you dad.”

    So now that i have described it it is no longer cutting edge. Sorry Sam better luck next time! (it is hard to stay current).

  86. I was reading this review of a cable-movie on Bernie Madoff when i came upon this paragraph, which stopped me dead in my tracks and then cracked me up…

    And though “Madoff” can’t explain what’s going through Mr. Madoff’s mind during the decades he harbors his secret, we do get to watch him pull it off with an incredible bluster and nerve. He actually rages at the regulators holed up in his office, examining his books — regulators who could expose him if they were to do their jobs right. He threatens to toss big investors who have upset him out of the fund, even though he doesn’t have the money to pay them back. WE WATCH HIM TAKE MONEY FROM ELIE WIESEL, KNOWING HE WILL EVEN DEFRAUD THE BELOVED NOBEL PRIZE WINNER AND HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR. Over and over, we see him look people in the eye, lunch with them and laugh with them, even as he’s betraying them.

    Hey, if that doesn’t pass the Jewish Mercenary acid-test, I don’t know what will!

  87. What exactly are you referring to

    There are two trends that are coming to a head.

    The first is Industrial Age and Human Ecology. Humans have populated the Earth to the point where they are too many and now the ecology of their living arrangement is precarious because 1) it depends upon easy energy in the form of oil, and 2) many other things the best example of which would be clean water.

    That is a hot topic that has been around for awhile. I am only qualified to speak of it in general terms, as i don’t have a science background and have not done the necessary legwork. In layman’s terms we talk about population overshoot and ecological balance, and standard of living and quality of life. This is not some arcane area of interest. The environment in which we live is taxed to the max.

    The lifestyle that goes with it is not healthy. Which is why Americans who measure at the top in economics, measure at the bottom healthwise. And those health measures would be up for dispute, for sure, by the way. But notice with your own eyes the shape of American people.

    On the personal, it allows a middle-aged medium-sized guy such as myself, with only an average sized penis, to outshine the young fellas when it should be the other way around.

    Go into the coffee shop and most of the young people don’t look good. For instance there was some high school girl with fuck-me skirt and a nice shapely slender behind, and i was checking her out and then get a good look at her and her face has a typical unhealthy pallor. Something about the food she is eating, all the time inside instead of picking flowers on the hillside, is not giving her what she needs.

    And that is just the girls. The vigor of youth is always fleeting, it is less and less than ever now. Or it only looks good in comparison the the wreckage around.

    Those dreary observations naturally suggest selection bias, but anyone can make their own judgments.

    The second trend coming to a head is white people and their concept of themselves. Their ethnic identity. Their ethnogenesis. Their Whiteness. Their peoplehood. Their interests. Their self-representation.

    THAT is the larger subject of this blog (if i might presume, good sirs!) and this part of the net, and all over the place it is coming out. (Coming out?! there is another useful term that got wrecked by the evil gays.)

    The emergence of White Identity is THE theme of this conversation. That is what we talk about, in one form or another, that is ALWAYS the over-arching contextuality-ism of it.

    Identity HAS to have its terms, it HAS to have its vocabulary and themes. It HAS to be expressed in words and thoughts. If identity cannot be expressed fluently in words and thoughts, then it does not exist. That is how humans are wired. We are wired into existence with our thoughts and words. Some people are more dependent in their own heads on words and thoughts – but COLLECTIVELY we are very much BOUND by words.

  88. So should that not be enough meta for one morning? then i just can’t even!

    But the larger criticism i am harping on, is how those two trends are not reconciled effectively, in White advocacy, nor anywhere else for that matter.

    There are some obvious points to make – well really just one, that i will sketch briefly.

    It is because White people have not created a living arrangement that is healthy and satisfying, that they don’t think enough of themselves to defend it.

    A lot of people simply observe that as the inevitable cycle of civilization, of how civilization gives rise to prosperity which allows for decadence and sloth, and perhaps it is simply that.

    (But beyond the Meridian a New Horizon and it is always on the edge, and it is possible that it has always been there only just but we can never know now.)

  89. But then the real issue is not really a lack of reconciling… But a lack of desire to even seek reconciliation. And because most “whites” are awS… Then no reconciliation is imminent.

    If the two competing paradigms are a perfect paradigm and an imperfect paradigm and the critical mass TOTALLY REJECT Perfection per se then “we” are bound to a public chaos.

  90. it is because White people have not created a living arrangement that is healthy and satisfying, that they don’t think enough of themselves to defend it.

    A lot of people simply observe that as the inevitable cycle of civilization, of how civilization gives rise to prosperity which allows for decadence and sloth, and perhaps it is simply that.

    That ‘prosperity-to-sloth’ citing of yours is a theory i sometimes adhere to as well —– the inevitability of decline POV.
    But more than that i think there’s a lack of white identity lingo and cultural references of many sorts because, by my lights, whites are so meta to civilization; i go back to that ‘Whites are the Super and Supreme Middlemost nexus of total human development and history, an ‘ideal midrange’ between African and Hispanic vitality and primitive human instinct, but not as airy and detached as the uppermost reaches of N.E. Asian and Ashkenazim IQ. None of which is to suggest that whites are a literal ‘midpoint’ of blacks and Asians; rather, they’re the most essential when conjuring a ‘human essence;’ — so, attritubes physical and mental of other forms of humanity inevitably wind up being compared to whites, the ‘standard’ of human ability, aptitude and aesthetic: we need you for guidance and developmental honing; you need us in order to embellish your shine and distinction through contrast. You lose your humanity if you don’t both lead us through example and need us to replentish your vigor and vitality.

    There it is in a nutshell: The White Man’s Burden is fated.

  91. This entire White Man’s Burden is high-Anglo nonsense. Celts, Meds, Slavs, and Nordics care not a whit for it. I can see how a Black can project his egocentrism onto another race though, making our relationship with other races central to our identity. It’s not even on the periphery of our identity.

    Whites’ ultimate attitude toward Blacks though may be in fact spanning this continuum: curiosity, chattle, pity, nuisance, pestilence.

    But if you insist on White Man’s Burden, be careful what you wish for. Husbandry also includes the culling of excess and of defectives. I believe that God wants us to be separate and independent of each other, meeting only on equal terms in reciprocal guest/host relationships the few times we do meet

  92. Whites’ ultimate attitude toward Blacks though may be in fact spanning this continuum: curiosity, chattle, pity, nuisance, pestilence.

    I respectfully disagree —— as does civilizational history; however, your view is par for your niche within white social hierarchy,

    (Before you tear into me and/or my argument, consider what i said but only first when considering whites and the ‘higher’ end of my social continnum, e.g., ‘whites and those asggregate higher-IQ Ashkenazims and select Asians.My finer point may convey better that way, being less incendiary.)

  93. . I believe that God wants us to be separate and independent of each other, meeting only on equal terms in reciprocal guest/host relationships the few times we do meet

    The irony is that above philosophy and guidline of yours pretty much described the social norm among and between the various white subsets you mentioned in your reply (e.g., the celts, meds, slavs and nordics) circa 1900; now, a hundred-plus years later, with fresh crises in our 21st-century here-and-now, there all brothers-in-arms.

    I believe the old saying goes: “Any port in a storm will do,”

  94. Interesting maritime metaphor. I used one as well at the end of the “Mulatto” post. They both kind of relate to each other.

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