Is the Mulatto the New Superman?

“But what if our child inherits my body and your brains?”
– Attributed to George Bernard Shaw, his riposte to a shapely dancer’s eugenically-flavored proposition.

The title of this post is in jest, but this post’s amicable spirit toward the long-time commenter and occasional pain-in-the-ass whose handle is an anagram of “Trickin” is in earnest. My man Trickin has been both lurking and commenting on the fringes of Alt-Right’s discussions for years and it’s high time to address his contrarian point of view.

To readers unfamiliar with him: Trickin describes himself as a forty-something former rock-n-roll scene journalist, now comfortably settled in the frozen mid-West. Most apropos our interests, he also notes that he is a biracial American man, the son of a Black father and a White mother, an outlier in that he grew up in a happy upper-middle-class home with both parents. So without further ado, let’s meet Trickin:

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Not Trickin

No, that’s not him, I just couldn’t resist because this is how I imagine him to appear, his protestations notwithstanding. I actually have no idea what he looks like.

The original impetus behind this post is a meme that society pushes, and one that Trickin himself occasionally advances with varying degrees of seriousness, namely the melding of the European mind with the African body through intermarriage as evolution’s direction toward a superior new man.

There is a time for dialectic on miscegenation that encompasses one’s feelings about it, as well as an objective analysis of its viability. But I am not doing that in this post. Rather, my aim in this post is to acknowledge and try to grok Trickin’s perspective on his biracial identity. He wrote something recently to poignant effect:

there is a sorta purely physical aesthetic imagining that comes back repeatedly; a sorta idealized figure that i’m sure is tied to my id and history —- a halfrican with appealing features that nonetheless cover the vastness of its essential being…. I have some haunts along this line of personal inquiry; such a figure just might not be a pure figment in terms of me and my past.

You may now be wondering about this idealized Halfrican physiognomy. Trickin may have already given us a hint. He has asserted — in earlier denials of the photo at the top of this post — that he looks similar to a former NBA player, pictured here:

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Trickin’s doppleganger?

That’s not a bad looking fellow. I have no reason to doubt Trickin’s claim and if true, then it would appear that he has drawn well in genetic card-dealing. In magnanimous detachment, I ventured to accept, as a thought experiment, the Mischling as an integral part of the continuum of our own communities.

But then I saw three things in the real world: a young White woman one evening, she walked lightly. The streetlamp’s glow kissed her flowing hair and caressed her shoulder. A birthday party full of White children playing. Their bright faces were God’s own joy. A White man, his solid face and clear eyes, and I knew that I am looking at the only man in this world whom I can trust.

There is the world of the European man, with its aspirational supremacy, and in that world there is little room for impure blood. And there is also, as confessed by Trickin, an idealized home aligned with his Mulatto identity, implicitly one with its own standards of purity. Like two free men who visit each other’s worlds but then part ways, the European returns home and so does the Halfrican head for his own.

But where does the biracial man go? The one who got the best of both heritages is free to enjoy this moment in history among Whites as an interesting stranger. But once he tires of Circe’s feast and is back at sea, he becomes like Odysseus but with no crew and with no Ithaca, on open water between the unreachable light of Europe and the wild call of Africa.

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85 thoughts on “Is the Mulatto the New Superman?

  1. The quality of a society is mostly determined by averages & trends, not outliers. Even when you get a truly superior outlier (i.e., a creative genius), he can’t do much if he is surrounded by sociopathic retards. For example, the occasional black genius certainly does exist, yet black African societies failed to so much as invent the wheel.

    Even a genius, perhaps especially a genius, requires a basic societal foundation upon which to express himself. Blacks don’t offer this, and by and large neither do mixed-race populations – especially those with significant black blood.

    The anti-white media loves to celebrate the occasional halfrican success story, while ignoring the well established consequences of large-scale miscegenation. For that, one need only look to the Coloureds of South Africa or the mixed-race favelas of Latin America. If exotic locales aren’t your thing, just look at the offspring of the Mudsharks of Walmart. Anti-whites would rather one not look at reality, but rather gawk at the occasional witty & attractive outlier.

    By white standards, these populations are horror shows – yet this is exactly what anti-whites are trying to convince whites to turn themselves into. In fact, they demand that we celebrate it. Madness or just plain evil?

    The verdict is in and it isn’t pretty. For “Trickin” it’s just another day in the life, but for whites miscegenation is a disaster. A healthy white society would ban it entirely, and regard mudsharks as what they actually are: vectors of disease, dysfunction, misery and ultimately White Genocide.

  2. Ha! I’m grateful you kept your word and this wasn’t a ‘hit job,’ as I admit this was a post rife with such opportunity……

    “The long-time commenter and occasional pain-in-the-ass whose handle is an anagram of “Trickin”

    I swear on my halfrican heart, i had no idea my avatar was a anagram of ‘Trickin.’ Really. I created in a mindless moment, merely to facilitate my being able to comment on Guy White, the first such blog i routinely commented on, around late 2009.

    In magnanimous detachment, I ventured to accept, as a thought experiment, the Mischling as an integral part of the continuum of our own communities.

    And it can be just that — in moments. And as you add a moment later, it can also be the opposite: a consignment to socio-ethno-racial Nowheresville. But guess what? Ultimately ‘it’ is both…. In the end, life itself is at best a mysterious abyss; everyone must face that reckoning at some point. Genetic haplotypes won’t save you.

    If exotic locales aren’t your thing, just look at the offspring of the Mudsharks of Walmart. Anti-whites would rather one not look at reality, but rather gawk at the occasional witty & attractive outlier.

    I hear this a lot around this part of the manosphere. But I don’t think that lower-to-lower-middle-class mixed children are particularly more unattractive than white children of a similar socio-economic status. Sometimes I’d to see headshots of all these white-alt-righters who proffer all this unasked-for pity onto me and others of my racial ‘fate.’ I’ve always felt i was sort-of lucky or even blessed in terms of God’s granting of physical attributes; or at least nothing to curse or lament.

    But even moreso: i think a lot of race-realists think biracials think of themselves as some sort of future ideal and/or role model for future procreation. I certainly don’t think that; i guess, to the extent that someone of my circumstance doesn’t seek to avoid producing ‘someone of my circumstance,’ can view such acts as social prescription —– but i don’t have any particular predisposition towards whites, or blacks, who by personal doctrine, mate only with someone of their own race…

    And to be clear: my recent ‘halfrican ubermensch’ references are in part conversational jests, and in part a hypothetical construction i came up with to challenge Thor on a few particulars of our rather idiosyncratic debates of late.

    Now, if you’ll excuse me, it’s time for dinner —– tonight i’ll be having a plate of chitterlings, turnip greens and Lutefisk (rimshot!).

  3. p.s.—– if i can in anyway validate PA’s conviction that i somehow look like ‘Not Trickin,’ I’d say, my eyes and teeth are closer in color and shape to his than they are to Rick Fox’s, while my hair is a hybrid of Fox’s and Not Trickin’s—— but that’s the best i can do for you, PA!

  4. To be fair, the DR is way better than Haiti. The idea of north america, europe and australia turning into the DR is quite horrific though. Ah well, at least the powers that be get their docile workers (soon to be replaced by robots, 3d printing and AI) and we can forget about alpha centauri.

    On the other hand…Chinaman, the nation turns its lonely eyes to you!

  5. To be fair, the DR is way better than Haiti. The idea of north america, europe and australia turning into the DR is quite horrific though.

    Yeah, I’ll say. I took a vacation in Punta Cana and it sucked really, really bad. Terrible food and terrible service from workers too surly and lazy to shift into a higher gear even after you’d already tipped them a week’s salary. It was bizarre. I can’t imagine the squalor of Santo Domingo.

    And to be clear: my recent ‘halfrican ubermensch’ references are in part conversational jests, and in part a hypothetical construction i came up with to challenge Thor on a few particulars of our rather idiosyncratic debates of late.

    C’mon Trickdaddy, you gotta admit that you do talk glowingly about your own appearance quite a bit. When it comes to self-admiration you’re second only to Cam Newton.

  6. you gotta admit that you do talk glowingly about your own appearance quite a bit.
    Never! I just cite the chorus of others and stay out of it; since i was an undergrad, i swear there’s been more than fifty instances in which someone has said i looked like rick fox; before that, when i was in high school, it was phillip michael thomas of miami vice fame.

    Who know? Perhaps there just then weren’t that many mass-media negroes to cite? I do recall you and the other “Halfasian” of the manosphere, Sagat, trading pics and comparing your visages to other half-asian celebs, so don’t go spilling narcissism juice on me, glamour boy….btw, you guys getting through that blizzard in the peach state?.

    btw, what’d you think of my Green & Gold failing once again in the Arizona desert?

  7. My third-to-last paragraph describes the ideal behind my non-negotiable race boundaries. What may be interesting to y’all is that I didn’t just make up some archetype about a woman/children/man as a literary device. That actually did happen as I described it.

    The woman: last week I got off the subway in the late evening and was walking through the dimly lit parking lot, where you’d normally just see schlubby middle aged people, half of them older Black female government workers. But walking in front of me to her car was an attractive, elegantly dressed young White woman. I was actually thinking about/composing an earlier version of this post in my head and I saw the greenish streetlamp highlights on her silky hair. The kids thing was a composite of two recent family/friends events, one of them being a visit to a relative who lives in a whitopia. The “man’s face” line was the closest to a constructed literary device, but there is an archetypal male face I occasionally recognize as very trustworthy on a random stranger. It can be a Slavic, young Lech Walesa look, or a middle aged American redneck/Southern wised older man face, like a gun store manager I talked to recently.

    Trainspotter – I’m personally very radical about mixing; at this point I don’t even like intra-White marriages involving different nationalities — we’re moving into purification mode. Even if EVERY instance of mixing created a halfrican genius, I’d be against it because it isn’t us.

    Nikcrit – Glad you liked the post. I didn’t cede any principle but I wanted to write something that isn’t formulaically hardline. You’ve been around for a while and you seem like a good-faith commenter, so devoting a “hit job” post to you would have been a dick move on my part. Also, I did want to explore the ‘identity’ thing because it’s interesting and to a Halfrican with a brain and a soul, it seems to me, not without its cross to bear.

    The “Trickin” anagram was a last-moment decision. It did make me wonder why it is an almost perfect backwards-spelling of Nikcrit, like with “redrum”, but I also thought it’s better etiquette to give your online identity one degree of removal.

    JumpinJackFash – Yeah, the Dominican thing was on my mind when I was at first composing a more polemical version of this post. Will we need the Chinaman? Maybe as an ally. I see our ruling classes cracking, their puppet masters cutting their losses, and scores getting settled via internal developments.

    Camlost – Steve Sailer once wrote about Trinidad being the most competently-run and nicest of the Black-ish Caribbean islands, possibly because they were the first port for transatlantic slave ships and their merchants had their first pick of the slaves, favoring the “nicer” ones. FWIW. PS: LOL at the Cam Newton dig.

  8. I’m personally very radical about mixing; at this point I don’t even like intra-White marriages involving different nationalities — we’re moving into purification mode.

    I actually respect that, because it shows you’ve given the matter genuinely rueful consideration, while many others just have a sort-of vague allegiance to a racial borderline that’s only been in vogue for a generation or so….. I go back to that line i’ve put forth about how white identity and alliance has changed from 1900 to 2000; it’s almost unfathomable, the amount of change and transgression over once-stalwart social norms and conventions.
    But I am curious about how precisely you would define intra-white, cross-national marriages —— the actual geographic borders literally comprising deal-breakers?

    Also, I did want to explore the ‘identity’ thing because it’s interesting and to a Halfrican with a brain and a soul, it seems to me, not without its cross to bear.

    I do appreciate that, as well; I mean, it’s understandable, given these particular forums, but sometimes the debate conventions begin to treat me more like a cause and crusade than a contemplative ‘soul,’ given to nuance and reflections. I mean, I’m a thoughtful adult and I’d like to converse about racial antipathy with white thoughtful adults at times. I’ve gone through both phases of angst and bluster regarding my racial essence, and I can be everthing from dogmatic to rueful to absurdist in dealing with the issue. So, of course, can Trainspotter and other more demographically typical alt-right blog commenters who occasionally engage, yet sometimes the dictates and inclinations of these debates turn engagment into these somewhat silly Team-Miscegenation-vs-Team-Separatist battles, as if each of us could deliver such racial absolution even if we may or may not want to.

    Suburban_elk once, i believe, suggested that such cross-racial candor on alt-right blogs may even constitute a bit of genuine ‘breaking new ground.’ IDK, there are a lot of blogs out there, but he just may be right on that.

  9. This is a little OT, but relevant – I’ve been dating this 31 year-old blonde lately (skinny and pretty, but a single mom with an awful 8 year-old boy so it’s not going anywhere long term). She’s originally from Tennessee and has never made a secret of being a “race realist” (for lack of a better term).

    So we’re watching the news the other day and there’s some story about 5 “youths” committing three different carjackings in one night on the Southside of Atlanta and getting busted characteristically easily. I make a comment about the ineptitude of “youth” criminals and she replies that “yeah, blacks are really just hunter gatherers, they don’t plan ahead”.

    I’m like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, WHOA – who told you that?

    And she proceeds to spout out all of this HBD stuff without any prompting from me (she wasn’t familiar with Sailer or the actual term HBD per se, but she did refer to “evolution” quite a bit). I pressed her on where she had heard or read all of this and she just mentioned that she had a hyperconservative uncle who sent her a few things to read.

    Random story, I know – but I just became a lot more fond of this chick.

  10. Steve Sailer once wrote about Trinidad being the most competently-run and nicest of the Black-ish Caribbean islands, possibly because they were the first port for transatlantic slave ships and their merchants had their first pick of the slaves, favoring the “nicer” ones. FWIW.

    I went to the Bahamas about 5 years ago and we kept hearing “LGBTQ” insults going back and forth between some of the young black Bahamian workers on a small diving ship we chartered. Apparently, the parliament in the Bahamas was being put under withering pressure by the US State Dept and international banks to force through gay/lesbian rights in the country, and rank-and-file Bahamians resented it. I was with a group of sales execs and managers from my then company and we told them that we’re all from down South and support their side of the argument – they seemed a little amazed at that.

    Never! I just cite the chorus of others and stay out of it; since i was an undergrad, i swear there’s been more than fifty instances in which someone has said i looked like rick fox; before that, when i was in high school, it was phillip michael thomas of miami vice fame.

    C’mon man. And if “they” said you resembled Sammy Davis, Jr. I doubt that you would’ve found time to mention it (more than once)…. right?

    I do recall you and the other “Halfasian” of the manosphere, Sagat, trading pics and comparing your visages to other half-asian celebs, so don’t go spilling narcissism juice on me, glamour boy….btw, you guys getting through that blizzard in the peach state?.

    Nah, man. I only pointed to Rex Walters (another white/japanese military baby) and said that I look even less Asian than him. (and he doesn’t look Asian at all). That was it.

    But speaking of our friend Sagat I wish I had saved that argument from his blog where our genius friend Obsidian jumped on and attacked him on the basis that American blacks have higher average per-capita incomes than Thais in their native country. That was truly too funny to be real.

    Green Bay’s season was finished as soon as two events happened – the injury to Jordy Nelson and Eddie Lacy showing up to camp 25 pounds overweight. They also played an exceedingly brutal top 5 schedule this year which caused them even more injuries – Carolina stayed injury free partly because they played the 2nd weakest schedule in the NFL this year.

  11. C’mon man. And if “they” said you resembled Sammy Davis, Jr. I doubt that you would’ve found time to mention it (more than once)…. right?

    I can’t fathom the thought of going through life at 5’4″, so i guess you’re right in that instance.

  12. — But I am curious about how precisely you would define intra-white, cross-national marriages the actual geographic borders literally comprising deal-breakers?

    Heritage, language, self-identification.

    — Random story, I know – but I just became a lot more fond of this chick

    Similar story: waaay back when I drove to Baltimore on some work errand and took an admin girl with me. She was a thirtyish single mom as well, with a smokin’ body. So we’re driving down a sparsely traveled city street and a small pack of as-ghetto-as-they-get Blacks saunter across the middle of the street on purpose in front of my car, forcing me to stop and wait for them to cross. She said “why’d you stop? you could have hit four in one shot.” Not expecting that from her, I looked at her and said “you’re a keeper.”

  13. But speaking of our friend Sagat I wish I had saved that argument from his blog where our genius friend Obsidian jumped on and attacked him on the basis that American blacks have higher average per-capita incomes than Thais in their native country. That was truly too funny to be real.

    https://sagatsays.wordpress.com/

  14. @camlost,

    Y’know, i feel guilty because i’ve thrown Obsidian under hte bus a few times, using him as a foil in how you guys sometimes loved to engage him because at times his feeble rhetoric would only bolster your arguments.

    But he wasn’t that bad; he’s actually very bright —– but like a lot of my bro’s, he just not versed in academic rhetoric, so it’s easy for those of a certain pedigree to make sport of his arguments, and many-upon-many did just that.

    I realize that sounds condescending as hell, but I really liked a lot of his prose —- his sorta aspiring-academic down-home banter; i recall him joking with PA about some goofy alt-right troll; he and I were saying such figures hurt the rep of the alt-right and obsidian was saying stuff like “the alt-right is chock-full-o-nuts like that, etc.” This was at GLP or OneSTDV….. You and PA sure would get wound up whenever he would argue with you.

    Bucket hangers! lol!!

  15. Since we’re talking about the old crew, guess who made the first comment here this morning, which I immediately spammed?

    That’s right, it was the old “Anti-Racist” character from GLPiggy, making his debut (and hopefully last) appearance here.

  16. That’s right, it was the old “Anti-Racist” character from GLPiggy, making his debut (and hopefully last) appearance here.

    You mean the one that used to just cut-and-paste crap from other sites? Or the one that would troll all the alt-right sites like a broken record constantly talking about how Africa was never built to support human life and that all Africans would migrate to Europe and take their due?

    Y’know, i feel guilty because i’ve thrown Obsidian under hte bus a few times, using him as a foil in how you guys sometimes loved to engage him because at times his feeble rhetoric would only bolster your arguments.

    His writing was surprisingly lucid for a blue collar brother, he kept things lively. I could see him being that working class, name-on-his-shirt-pocket brother who gets to marry the white collar/executive sister in a Tyler Perry movie, where the whole gimmick is how she’s torn by the prospect of having to “drop down” to get a good man. And yes, you’re right that he seemed to lack cognitive powers on a “4-year degree” level once you got him out of frame and beyond the 1st level of argumentation. (the use of hyperbole or the citation of statistics seemed to give him a surprising amount of trouble, for instance)

    I thought he did argue in good faith, though – and he did refer to Obama as an “empty suit” so I think that implies some commitment to independent thinking that I don’t see in a comic book cutout like Abagond, for instance. I don’t know what happened to him, maybe some constellations converged and he ascended to the astral plane or maybe he finally had that long-discussed physical confrontation with some HBDer (they’re all over inner city Philly) and went to jail for assault.

  17. ‘Anti-racist’ was sort-of calculatedly funny and stupid, if i’m remembering him among the trolls correctly; i could see him being occasionally amusing.

  18. Nikcrit…

    You will not get an honest critique from “white” anti-white Supremacists well aware of your desire for white Supremacy. You clearly owe your father no racial allegiance. You are never here to defend blacks. At the same time, your Rick Fox-like phenotype suggests you felt no racial allegiance to your white mother either. Your folks mutual liberation and your subsequent identity crisis due radically autonomous origin has you HERE seeking out white Supremacy. But because such “thing” should REALLY BE in the interest of your fellow “white” commenters, BUT IS NOT then their analysis runs the gamut… From everything EXCEPT… Your actual desire for a solid identity not to be found in either a liberal “black father” or a liberal “white mother” to which you physically DISPLAY equal indifference.

  19. It is my opinion that this conversation benefits from the perspectives of different types of people. Without different perspectives it is a lesser conversation. The guys reminiscing on this thread have been around longer than i have.

    The dynamics of posting in an internet conversation is an interesting topic in itself. There is value in sticking with one handle. It allows any presented opinions and ideas to be considered within a more personal context, and within a narrative.

    Without this personal context, there is a lot missing. Realistically, the personal context is the main thing. This is one of the those embarrassing and spergy observations that should not need to be said, and perhaps it doesn’t, but there it is.

    Speaking of Obsidian, he was a good natured sort, so it seemed, but there was no arguing with him on the larger themes. Every argument with him (and i had a few) would be reduced to the micro level (micro, ha), when the point trying to be made was on the macro. For instance someone would say that having to compete with blacks for white women, was a disadvantage to white boys, and that white boys would be better off not having to compete for those women with blacks – and Obsidian would simply advise on a personal level with such gems as, wash your ass. (Not to say that that’s not good advice, but perhaps revealing more of the advice giver?)

    Or another example, on the same theme – and it is all about this theme, the competition for living space and the women that goes with it, just like the animals – when someone was expressing his frustration about the stressfulness of the multicult living arrangement, he would advice to move to North Dakota, or wherever the fuck.

    And there is a larger point to be gleaned from that style of argumentation, that tactic of reducing the solution to an individual approach.

  20. The larger point to be gleaned from this argument that is frequently used by representative non-white characters, this argument where a macro trend is reduced into self-improvement advice.

    White people express their grief with how things are going for them, and that grief comes down to how they are isolated and not working together and losing ground, and that other groups seem very much to work together (“as One!”) with traction and overturn that chariot and win.

    And so when a black representative such as Obsidian or whoever advises a specifically personal solution to a problem that is exactly based on that sort of behavior to begin with! – it is frustrating. He seems to be (deliberately?) missing the point!

    But it is revealing how those arguments would come forth so naturally, as if made unknowingly of their strategic basis and value. Obsidian would instinctively argue what would be most effective approach for his side. He would argue that the white man in question solve his own problems and Thus Be Content, and thus not worry about the larger problem facing his peer group (his people).

    Such an individualistic approach to life problems, is effective enough within the life of its advocates. See the CH game site, for example, at least in its earlier days, before it has become more race conscious.

    And there is simple wisdom in that advice. Take care of yourself first, that is all someone can really do. But that approach can not be used as an excuse to forget about larger social obligations, what used to be called duty.

  21. Two points. First, from Trainspotter’s leading comment,

    The quality of a society is mostly determined by averages & trends, not outliers. Even when you get a truly superior outlier (i.e., a creative genius), he can’t do much if he is surrounded by sociopathic retards. [ … ]

    Even a genius, perhaps especially a genius, requires a basic societal foundation upon which to express himself.

    Even a genius, especially a genius, requires that foundational support of his peers so that he can do his thing, whether in the arts or sciences, or in something more general like mechanical excellence or animal husbandry or sports, or just living with joy and humor and thereby helping other people to be their best. Everything amounts to nothing if other people are not around to benefit from it.

    And without other people around to appreciate, the creative spark is hard to maintain. Or at least that is my experience. Some people are pretty unsocial, but they are not the usual. Apparently the indian tribes of the Amazon are truly unfriendly – they are indifferent toward one another on the level of … what we think of as human. They are essentially animals with hands.

    But the implication from Trainspotter’s comment, is that the occasional non-white creative superstar, does his thing within a white structure. But that just that it is what we are familiar with because this is our milieu.

    Spike Lee is not a creative genius, and neither is Will Smith. Or maybe i should rewatch a Lee flick before saying that. Anyone want to weigh in on that.

    I consider genius to be a worthwhile concept, and in my reckoning it has a broader application. It applies not just to high iq people who excel in science and the traditional arts, it applies to people who are alive and have a sense of themselves in a historical context, and they can bring that context into life in their own social plane.

  22. Thordaddy – by your thinking, does the short quote in which I cite Nikcrit point to his own Supremacy? (for which I use the “home” metaphor in this post). In my final paragraph, I suggest that his Supremacy is very elusive, if not impossible: White is out of reach, Black is seductive but maybe annihilating of who he really is. Do you agree?

    Elk – no specific commentary on what you wrote. Just want to say that you exemplify the symbiosis of blogging and commenting. An original blog post has to be relatively short, focused, coherently structured, and avoidant of the kind of indulgence of thought that sometimes leads to good insights. The reason for that is that people would probably not read it — especially since I write with a general audience in mind, not just people who know the inside lingo and concepts. And this is where commenters come in — they can meander, be less disciplined, but lead the reader to interesting alternative perspectives on the original subject.

    Laguna – no need to answer this if OpSec counterindicates, but you suggested a Germany meet-up. Do you plan to attend one of Roosh’s meet-ups?

  23. Obsidian was charismatic and it showed through his writing. Heart was in the right place o many things and I always respected his utter lack of stated interest in White women. He likes sistahs. This was a bigger deal in 2009’s context of Roissy comment sections being infested with “where da white womin at” muhdikking of muds (not just Blacks, either).

    But he also had a nasty passive-aggressive streak and a criminally callous obtuseness. An example of the latter was when Chuck or a commenter linked to a savage murder of a young White person and Obsidian would say “they got arrested and went to prison – problem solved.” His passive aggressiveness infuriated and got him banned by even the most non-racist of bloggers, like Welmer/Spearhead – and Chuck. Also, there were dramas involving Black female bloggers who took measures against him. One even got WP to shut down his first blog.

  24. Thordaddy – by your thinking, does the short quote in which I cite Nikcrit point to his own Supremacy?

    I was going to mention: if you recall, that “imagining” quote of mine you put in this post was from a recent exchange you (PA) had with me in which you asked me a hypothetical about what kind of child might I have in terms or racial and cultural choice; to be clear: that quote of mine was directed solely and specifically at such a hypothetical progeny, not so much a reflection of my personal attitude toward my or anyone else’s ‘bi-racial-ness’

  25. At the same time, your Rick Fox-like phenotype suggests you felt no racial allegiance to your white mother either.

    Hey! This particular “mama’s boy” deeply resents such a remark; fyi, I absolutely ADORE my Mom! (I even told her as much while she packed my lunchbox this morning!)

  26. nikcrit: “But I don’t think that lower-to-lower-middle-class mixed children are particularly more unattractive than white children of a similar socio-economic status.”

    Even if that were true, lower class whites are still MY people, and I prefer them over non-whites. To paraphrase Matt Parrott: some of my favorite white people are short, ugly and stupid.

    But it’s not true, at least by my lights. Lower class whites are, on average, far more attractive than lower class mixed-race types. However, this isn’t just a lower class phenomenon. The main thrust of my post above was that large mixed-race populations already exist across the planet, sometimes constituting entire countries – not just the lower class of those countries.

    The results of large scale miscegenation are visible and, by and large, awful. We’re not just talking about matters of appearance, but a host of objective metrics. If poverty, crime, low IQ & dysfunction is your thing – diversity is definitely for you.

    Further, defending lower class whites, even if many are short, ugly & stupid, is necessary for the survival of the broader white tribe. If you throw your own lower classes to the wolves, and they disappear, what do you get? South Africa/Latin America – small, dwindling numbers of whites hiding behind gates & fences. Who are they hiding from? The lower class non-whites that surround them, of course. Hillbillies & denizens of the trailer park are an absolute blessing in contrast.

    This is about tribe, nickrit. A tribe that is going to survive doesn’t throw its lower orders to the wolves.

  27. Trainspotter, I forgot about that line. Yeah, 100% agreement with your response.

    In my “What Have We Learned” post, I wrote: “value and protect your working class. They really are all you’ve got.”

  28. PA: “I’m personally very radical about mixing; at this point I don’t even like intra-White marriages involving different nationalities — we’re moving into purification mode.”

    I hear you, and I too want different white ethnic groups to be maintained. However, we must not go down the path of seeing one another as utterly alien – petty nationalism has been disastrous for us, and ultimately opened the door to the disaster that we face today. A modest amount of intermarriage among different white ethnic groups cements our bonds to that broader European whole. At the end of the day, we’re in this together.

    PA: “Even if EVERY instance of mixing created a halfrican genius, I’d be against it because it isn’t us.”

    Exactly, and well stated. This is about identity, first and foremost. It’s fundamentally about who and what we are, not statistics & pie charts (though the latter have their place, of course).

  29. PA: “…value and protect your working class. They really are all you’ve got.”

    That’s a great line, and very, very true.

  30. I haven’t been writing much lately, and it’s definitely showing in terms of painful grammatical errors/awkwardness. My kingdom for an edit button. (not asking in seriousness, just to be clear)

  31. Hillbillies & denizens of the trailer park are an absolute blessing in contrast.

    This is about tribe, nickrit. A tribe that is going to survive doesn’t throw its lower orders to the wolves.

    Nobody is saying it shouldn’t be; I notice everytime we get into back-n-forth, you presume some sort of racial-depurifying agenda on my part, while often I’m just speaking from the only biological reality I know. You yourself have said that you believe people have the right to mix but if a racial ‘ethnostate’ comes about it ideally would be prohibited. Well, we don’t live in such a ethnostate and if one came about, I wouldn’t be living in it.
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    Perhaps there’s no specific point to be made here, but I get the feeling that I’m considered a racial corruptor of some sort here, when in fact I’m not bothered at all by people who are monoracial in their personal philosophy and being.

    It seems to me the monoracialists are the ones who are making demands on others’ personal choices and behaviors. I can live with other peoples’ choices and skin tones.

  32. p.s.,
    btw: if it came down to me having to face either: A) a few Chicago Gangsta Disciple homies in dark South-side alley, or B) a few Appalachian good ol’ boys a la “Deliverance,” I’m afraid I’d be reduced to a pick-your-evil coin toss! lol!!

  33. nikcrit: “You yourself have said that you believe people have the right to mix”

    Perhaps it’s just semantics, but to clarify: I wouldn’t really characterize it as a “right to mix,” but rather as a right to leave a monoracial community and join a mixed-race community. What someone most assuredly doesn’t have a “right” to do is corrupt a white community with their personal choices. Such people are free riders on white society, soaking up the benefits while actively undermining the basis from which those benefits flow – its European racial foundation.

    In other words, live with the consequences of your decision: if you’re white and want to mix, then enjoy the dysfunction of diversity. Live in it, if it’s so great. What is happening today is that “diversity,” and all the misery associated with it, is being pushed on whites (and only whites) constantly. That’s not “free choice,” it’s White Genocide.

    nikrit: “…you presume some sort of racial-depurifying agenda on my part..”

    You’re right, I do presume it – but it’s a rebuttable presumption. However, in my experience, mixed-race people are generally quite hostile to the idea of whites maintaining their racial identity – they take it as a personal affront. Our ancestors picked up on this long ago, hence the concept of the Tragic Mulatto.

    Everyone, even other mixed-race people, regards the mixed-race person with varying degrees of suspicion, because they know that his interests/loyalties are inherently in conflict, and one can never be confident as to where he will stand – or whether he will shift his stance on a dime. Where will he stand tomorrow? Five minutes from now?

    There isn’t even a concept of treason, really, because no particular loyalty is assumed (therefore, nothing to betray). No real concept of a mixed-race person being an Uncle Tom or a race traitor, etc. Maybe “acting white” – maybe – but that’s about as far as it goes. Instead, the mixed-race person is the perfect product of deracinated, atomized corporate globalism. No loyalty, no higher aspiration or ideal – just work & consume, bicker & fuss.

    nikrit: “A) a few Chicago Gangsta Disciple homies in dark South-side alley, or B) a few Appalachian good ol’ boys a la “Deliverance,” I’m afraid I’d be reduced to a pick-your-evil coin toss! lol!!”

    No doubt, for you it would be a coin toss. For me, it’s a no-brainer. Just one of countless examples as to how our interests diverge. It’s baked into the cake.

  34. Nikcrit: “A) a few Chicago Gangsta Disciple homies in dark South-side alley, or B) a few Appalachian good ol’ boys a la “Deliverance,” I’m afraid I’d be reduced to a pick-your-evil coin toss! lol!!”

    As an aside, this is a good example of anti-white propaganda. Non-white gangs really are predatory – they live up to the image that is held in the popular imagination. That’s not fiction, just basic reality. But “Deliverance” hillbillies? They don’t exist – it’s pure fiction. “Hillbilly” areas have some of the lowest crime rates in the country. Friendly, helpful people are the norm.

  35. “Everyone, even other mixed-race people, regards the mixed-race person with varying degrees of suspicion, because they know that his interests/loyalties are inherently in conflict, and one can never be confident as to where he will stand – or whether he will shift his stance on a dime. Where will he stand tomorrow? Five minutes from now?”

    I presume that, to you, this is reasonable to the point of being evident common sense.

    But to me it is crazy, the mere thought absurd that skin tone is so absolute and entire an indicator of human affiliation.

    And perhaps the lesson here for me it is, indeed, both those things —— that it is and can be that for you, while not for me. Maybe there’s ground for mutual respect.

    Sometimes empirical truths aren’t that empirical after all.

  36. nikcrit: “But to me it is crazy, the mere thought absurd that skin tone is so absolute and entire an indicator of human affiliation.”

    You know perfectly well that we’re not just talking about “skin tone.” We’re talking about identity. You wouldn’t become European if you lightened your skin, just as I wouldn’t become African if I darkened mine.

  37. “But “Deliverance” hillbillies? They don’t exist – it’s pure fiction. “

    That’s not true; rural redneck stereotypes and menace exist, however disproportionate to the point you make about NAM gangs and menace.

    For instance, here in the upper Midwest, I recall being racially menaced in childhood by what one stereotypically considered the midwest up-north woodsmen ‘rednecks’ —- deer-hunting types who camped in summer and snow-mobiled in Winter; most of this was in the form of kids ganging up on me or shouting epithets of ‘nigger’—– and it would be wrong to compare that to the homicidal mayhem of street gangs.

    But to say what i experienced is just anti-white folklore and myth is a lie rendered in bad faith.

  38. You wouldn’t become European if you lightened your skin,

    I would wager that many people would consider me ‘European’ —– culturally and physically—- if i were to ‘lighten my skin.’

    I think you’re proving my earlier point; what to you is some omnipotent absolute marker, identifier and affiliation indicator is just not that absolute to me —– probably because, unlike you, the human racial and genetic gamut was inculcated from the get-go —– it’s part of my DNA.

    You don’t have to respect it or even ‘accept it’ —- but one can perhaps consider the idea that not everyone is like them; in fact, I consider myself European to a degree despite having dark skin.

    How couldn’t I?

  39. I recall being racially menaced in childhood by what one stereotypically considered the midwest up-north woodsmen ‘rednecks’

    I’ve had rednecks start shit with me and my friends in high school too, 1980s. Those were prep vs redneck boundaries across different schools (I was a prep/jock but was pretty cool with some of the ‘necks at my school). But there were occasions of rednecks from another school starting shit, which sometimes ended in a (fair) fight. If you see the video for Skid Row’s “18 and Life,” that was their look. Skinny, in jean jackets and listened to metal.

    I hated them back then for being assholes but at current perspective I understand that some amount of illegal young male territoriality and fair fighting is a good thing WITHIN our community. Keeps boys from being pussies and creates loyalty in-groups.

  40. nikcrit: “And perhaps the lesson here for me it is, indeed, both those things —— that it is and can be that for you, while not for me. Maybe there’s ground for mutual respect.”

    Trivializing white identity as being about nothing more than skin tone, as if this were all about how deep of a tan one has, is hardly “respect.” We are a PEOPLE, with skin tone merely being one of countless characteristics, and not an absolute one at that. For example, there are some non-European people who have lighter skin than at least some of entirely European descent. A white skinned Arab (there are some) is still an Arab. So what? Your ancestry is your ancestry – there is no changing it.

  41. nikcrit: “But to say what i experienced is just anti-white folklore and myth is a lie rendered in bad faith.”

    You’re misrepresenting me again, nik. I’m not denying what you experienced – I’ll take your word for it. Just pointing out that non-white gangs are very real & quite common – springing out of a large and well established subculture. In contrast, there is no subculture of predatory hillbilly gangs raping male tourists, a la Deliverance. It’s pure fiction. Anti-white fiction. Crime rates in hillbilly areas are among the lowest in the country. The Crips aren’t a myth, Deliverance style hillbillies are.

    nikcrit: “I would wager that many people would consider me ‘European’ —– culturally and physically—- if i were to ‘lighten my skin.’

    They might, but they would be wrong (and you would be fooling them). You can’t change your ancestry. Either you’re mixed or you aren’t. You’ve said you’re mixed.

    nikcrit: “I think you’re proving my earlier point; what to you is some omnipotent absolute marker…”

    I’ve never claimed that skin tone is an “absolute” marker. There are some very light skinned Arabs, Jews, etc. There are also (relatively) dark people of entirely European descent. So what? You’re trying to trivialize white identity, which is exactly what I’d expect a person of mixed-race to do. You want your own identity respected? A good start would be to respect the identity of others.

  42. PA “I hated them back then for being assholes…”

    Ha! We’re probably pretty close in age, and I had some of the same sorts of experiences. The fights were fair, there was no thought of kicking a man when he was down, etc. Entirely different world – a white world.

    Back then, I rather despised rednecks. Now, I look back on it all with fondness & appreciation. The typical neck was, at the end of the day, a fairly good-natured oaf, quick to fight but essentially fair, and helpful when need be. You could do a lot worse.

  43. “A good start would be to respect the identity of others.”

    Well, I’d say that granting people —– all people —- license to redefine and reinterpret their ethnic identity IS the ultimate sign of ethnic respect.

    Why? Because, if you examine the issue over centuries, those definitions have been very fluid —- both the qualitative descriptives AND the quantitative or ‘biological’ definitions of ethnicity.

    Yes, race exisits —- in both social and biological forms, but both forms are ever-changing and evolving in their measures….think about how different was the conception of race prior to all the genomic research and discovery in recent decades.

    A lot of socially driven ‘racialists’ often speak of race if it’s a solid and homeostatic given,both culturally and biologically —- but it isn’t and recent history proves as much.

    I’m not really into arguing points i’m not that passionate about.

  44. in fact, I consider myself European to a degree despite having dark skin.

    How couldn’t I?

    I consider myself black, to a certain degree, despite having NO black blood.

    How could i not?

    No rather native american (despite no indian blood!).

    Wait somewhere out there is an identity.

    Actually what i always wanted to be, after missing the cut for traveling basketball in fourth grade and athlete was off the list, was a gay transgender biracial retard. It seemed like they had it good with access to all that special ed pussy. You think they don’t fuck but they do.

  45. nikcrit: “Well, I’d say that granting people —– all people —- license to redefine and reinterpret their ethnic identity IS the ultimate sign of ethnic respect.”

    If is fundamentally disrespectful to claim to be something that you are not. Were I to claim to be Korean, and demand that actual Koreans accept me as such, that is not respecting them – it is trying to impose my will upon them. It is telling them that they have no real identity, that I can join or leave their tribe at will, regardless of their wishes, and regardless of whether my actual interests align with theirs (which they wouldn’t). Essentially, I would be treating them as a pair of socks that I can try on and discard as I please, at my pleasure. I have all of the control, they have none.

    nikcrit: “Why? Because, if you examine the issue over centuries, those definitions have been very fluid…”

    Tribes form as they form, always have and always will. The tribe determines who is in and who is out. It does not ask for, nor does it require, the permission of outsiders. Do tribes evolve? Yes. But we see that race is central to the evolution.

    For example, the Coloureds of South Africa, despite speaking Afrikaans, do not see themselves, and are not seen by others, as merely dark skinned Afrikaners/Boers – they are something different. So while the Boers, being of almost entirely European descent, are a “new” branch of the European tree, the Coloureds are not. The picture is more muddled in Latin America, but the same basic tendencies are apparent.

  46. But jokes aside, none of those – not a one! – was an option for me. They wouldn’t let me in their club. The native americans have been pretty friendly, but i am not invited into the inner circle.

    No i had no choice, i was stuck with white, vanilla, no soul having nothingness. Being in nothingness. Who knew that those existentialists were prefiguring all of this. We didn’t realize what it was, that they were prefiguring, but now we are realizing what it was.

    Our being is in nothingness – we have no … (insert big pretentious concept word here) … mythos, no active race soul. (I don’t know that mythos is right, there. Chime in, philosophy majors!)

    But like i was saying, i got stuck with white, i didn’t get a choice. I tried to be a nigger, i tried to be something else too like a native american spiritual questing soul brother – but it’s been lonely, and the futures in that trade is slim pickins. Try it out – go out the Street bring your drum and start in with your death song and better be un-ironic because they WILL kill you.

    It is ironic that someone now – nikcrit – is saying that he feels he is part European, because back when identity politics got started, one of its central principles was that Black Identity, or Native American Identity, was a Thing – because one didn’t have a choice in the matter. And as much bs as is promulgated in identity politics – as a foundational principle, is that not in fact the case that we do not get to choose, and that further there is no halfway in and halfway out? – this ain’t teabagging feelgood sex with Sarah Palin (oooh), and neither is it the hokey pokey.

    We are circumscribed by the stars, and born who we are.

    Which reminds of a silly argument in the form of a thought experiment that the egalitarian race deniers would frequently like to use, which went “But what if I (or what if you) had been born black?”

    Well then you wouldn’t be you. With all due respect to blacks (no sarcasm) – what if you had been born a dog, would you still expect that people would treat you the same, and that you would have the same opportunities in the world? Of course not, because you would be something different, in this case a dog. And that is not meant to end as a jibe, comparing blacks to dogs, but it makes the point, that race is real and part of who we are, and we are different.

  47. In any case, for practical politics, the Big Tent is the best choice, for us in America.

    Anyone who wants to help White Americans in their present situation, is welcome to do so.

    That was my point about Kunstler, in the post i made on the other thread, was that, right now at this crucial time – he is unwilling to lend his considerable talent to White Interests. He can’t do it, for some personal reasons having to do with who he is. He justifies his feelings, on his blog post, by describing Trump as “angry” – when it is clear to anyone with eyes – that “angry” is the last thing that is Trump.

    I was going to say that Trump, and healthy White people, are happy – but it’s not happy that they are. Black people are happy, and indians in the Amazon are gloomy. White people are … what … all sorts of things.

    And if Trump and good White people are angry … well of course we are. They would deny our anger. They would deny us our feelings. They would deny us ourselves. We don’t even get to be angry?!

    Anger is the least of your worries. Anger is for fools. Right now i tell you, better men are not angry, they are figuring and patient.

  48. Nikcrit…

    You are a radical autonomist in search of GENUINE white Supremacy… I told you this 5 years ago and nothing has changed. You STILL DRAG your feet.

    You “adore” your mother…. You have no racial allegiance to your father… BOTH circa 1970ish were RADICAL LIBERATIIONISTS… And if they are indeed granted intelligence THEN they could have easily predicted your future encounters of “red-neck” racial bullying. You hold them not accountable because there is desire for white Supremacy… A desire to NOT BE IGNORANT to the chaos one’s radical liberation can cause. But you also hold them unaccountable because YOU ARE LIBERAL and tolerant and nondiscriminatory. Yet, to find white Supremacy, YOU MUST HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE for your identity crisis… A crisis rooted in a stunted and obscured vision of a perfect Nikcrit IN AND OF HIMSELF…. Not RELATIVE, but absolute to a standard of objective Supremacy.

    Now, YOU MAY RETORT that mother and father told you that you where perfect just the way you are…. But this does nothing to explain why you could not go towards one or the other for a “black” liberationist father IS NOT EQUAL TO a “white” liberationist mother… Yours was not a matter of mutual separatists or mutual assimilationists, but rather???

    And now for you… Nothing. Self-annihilation. You are neither advancing “black” liberation nor assimilating further into the white world. You quit the “game” and now just critique it haphazardly ever creeping towards white Supremacy and total rejection of what your radically liberated “parents” created.

  49. Ok, I’ll concede…. I was thinking pop-cult casual in thatoment, a LA Jessica Alba on George Lopez show for a “How Black are You?” DNA-test segment. I mean, I could go through my adily life appropriating the likely anecdotal presumption thinking I’m a rote “black-looking biracial,” only to have Lopez announce at the end of the drumroll that “nikcrit is…. 47% sub-saharan African & 53% Swedish-Scandinavian.”…… Oh, the horrors!! Bring ’em on!

  50. Crime rates in hillbilly areas are among the lowest in the country. The Crips aren’t a myth, Deliverance style hillbillies are.

    Exactly. Violent stranger crime by lower class whites happens so infrequently that it can be considered non-existent in the Western world today. Even the worst meth-addled white criminals tend to prey on their own circles, they’re typically so rural that it’s too much work to travel to find other targets.

    Obsidian was charismatic and it showed through his writing. Heart was in the right place o many things and I always respected his utter lack of stated interest in White women. He likes sistahs.

    And although it was his obvious goal to get under the skin of white HBDers, he never went the route of bragging about his alleged conquests with white women. To his credit, I’ll say that he was above that — even though it’s the default method of incitement employed by most black bloggers/commenters online.

    p.s.,
    btw: if it came down to me having to face either: A) a few Chicago Gangsta Disciple homies in dark South-side alley, or B) a few Appalachian good ol’ boys a la “Deliverance,” I’m afraid I’d be reduced to a pick-your-evil coin toss! lol!!

    Maybe you should consider who can actually shoot straight. Chicago “youths” shoot 50, with maybe 1-2 dead, on every hot summer weekend there.

    I think we know that Appalachian boys will show much better aim.

  51. That was my point about Kunstler, in the post i made on the other thread, was that, right now at this crucial time – he is unwilling to lend his considerable talent to White Interests.

    You must be really young if you’re expecting anything out of Kunstler.

    One of my first memories of him was seeing him on Donahue arguing against punishment for subway shooter Colin Ferguson based on a self-proclaimed “black rage” defense. That must have been the early 90’s.

  52. I agree with Trainspotter. Some inter-ethnic mixing is a good thing, but I’d never want to see any ethnicity within the White race blended away.

    In full disclosure, I’m a European mut, heavy German and N. European mixed with Spaniard.

    My haplogroup is i1.

  53. You must be really young if you’re expecting anything out of Kunstler.

    Young enough that high school girls won’t leave me be. It is tough situation.

    But no it is more a genuine confusion about how people can be perceptive and intelligent, but not get certain things. In the case of jews, the rationalizations they make regarding the white people they live amongst and despise, the white people they live amongst and admire, the white people they live amongst and fear.

    Kunstler is a pretty great writer. As far as an entertaining weekly screed. But he can’t get over his revulsion of the non-sophisticated portion of American whites. The commentary at his page is 85 per cent liberal cliches.

    He is blowing it, in his condemnation of Trump. It is probably not worth worrying about, what his problems are. Jews just have an instinctive fear of white people getting excited about things.

    Lately with Trump, it is really come down to it. Anyone who doesn’t like Trump, it’s just like, what’s their fucking problem?

    It is so obvious that the guy is a real person, and that he likes life and that he likes other people, and that he considers himself an American, and that he is white. He has a brilliant forceful personality and a sense of humor.

    They try to pin on him that his positions on things have changed. That particular charge – of omg! changing a position on something – since when is it not a good idea to constantly and always be re-evaluating one’s position and approach, to any complex problem? As if there are “guiding principles” which provide all answers to practical problems.

    But fixating on Kunstler’s position has been a lost cause of mine. I guess Kunstler was my hope for the jews of America, that they could see the light and come ashore.

  54. My introduction to Kunstler was over fifteen years ago. I was interested in New Urbanism and had just finished reading “A Pattern Language,” which is a pretty good book about human-scale urban living. One of the author’s prescriptions was “no residential building over four stories high.” Somebody I was discussing these philosophies with recommended Kunstler to me and described a photo he showed, of Small Town USA with a big water tower that had a smiley face on it. And Kunstler said or wrote (don’t recall if this was his writing or a college lecture) “what the FUCK is that.”

    You get it. Kitsch. Banality. Happy face. Kunstler hates it.

    I was not too moved by that either way at the time. Now, it sounds like visceral hate. If the water tower had a reincarnated Michelangelo’s fresco on it, it’d have been the same contempt.

  55. My position regarding the jews is pretty flexible. If they look white and want to be white, then they can be – but they have to renounce their jewishness, and it has to be a sincere renunciation.

    Any other person who wants to be part of Team White, i am of the opinion that they should be accommodated, to whatever degree is feasible or beneficial.

    In a White ethnostate, there could be a eugenic system where the genotype is purified, and but anyone is allowed to live, and participate to an extent. I have suggested that in this ethnostate, everyone gets a permanent tattoo on their forehead with their number which determines with whom and how many children they can have. So a number of 0 means no kids for you! and a number of 100 (or perhaps 99) means as many as you like. My number is not 100 or 99 but pretty high. My father’s family came over in 1636 and my mother’s in 1630. Though neither of them was on the Mayflower, Rhode Island and Connecticut is where they set up.

    All that is fantasy speculation. Hey let us larp as emperors of this our magical superstate, which we will will into reality with our razor sharp and racist wits. / say that ten times in a row!

  56. Ah, I got it wrong. The guy who defended Colin Ferguson was William Kunstler, a civil rights attorney who recently died. But I’m shocked, shocked, shocked to learn that he shared both the same last name and same political bent as James Kunstler.

    Ferguson was a clear forerunner to Omar Thornton, who shot all those racist Hartford white people who had it coming (according to the NYT).

    Young enough that high school girls won’t leave me be. It is tough situation.

    Just snapchat with them until they turn 18.

    In HBD circles more should be said about how urbanism just isn’t good for the planet’s most worthy ethnic groups (NW Europeans and the Japanese). Besides the retarded birth rates it breaks their bond to their ancestral lands and it was those connections that drove their evolution.

  57. In HBD circles more should be said about how urbanism just isn’t good for the planet’s most worthy ethnic groups

    Urbanism, and migration. The lure of West’s easy money has sucked so much talent from smaller countries.

  58. FWIW, there’s some indescribable aspect to ‘Not Trickin’ that i find disconcerting —- a sort combination of look nad dress effect that conveys a sorta sleazy licentiousness, though i can’t assay his features and then take in his top hat and clearly say exactly why he leaves that effect on me.

    I remember thinking the same thing the first time you (PA) posted that pic. Weird.

    I do remember not liking at all the music he and his group were performing, the time you linked to his video.

  59. One of the author’s prescriptions was “no residential building over four stories high.”

    isn’t that a provision for buildings in D.C.? For national security reasons?

  60. Per my understanding, the DC building height restriction is purely aesthetic so that heritage buildings like The Capitol are not dwarved. All the tall office buildings were then built across the river in Virginia (Rosslyn).

  61. “the mixed-race person is the perfect product of deracinated, atomized corporate globalism. No loyalty, no higher aspiration or ideal – just work & consume, bicker & fuss.”

    Perhaps that is true for those who base their entire ethos and identity on particulars resulting from the accident of birth.

    People can share a bond and form community around many ‘things.” But even if they wanted to be purely tribal, why not affiliate as ‘colored’ or ‘mixed,’ as you cite in earlier comments?

    ——————————————————————————————————————————–it feels sort of odd to hear Trainspotter and Suburban_elk speak of the real anti-white lingo and discourse that is out there in the popular culture; it’s surreal to me because myself, being black-mixed and living in a predominantly white environment as a child, i was always painfully aware of the bond of white and white culture and how I lacked the prerequisites for that bond. The idea of being anti-white was probably something I only wished I could’ve aspired to in the mode of being a rebellious teen. To me, being ‘white’ would be a way to fit in, be accepted, transcend and bridge all the other adolescent abysses that separate yearning from fulfillment.

  62. nikcrit: “Perhaps that is true for those who base their entire ethos and identity on particulars resulting from the accident of birth.”

    Caitlyn Jenner feels your pain.

    nikcrit: “But even if they wanted to be purely tribal, why not affiliate as ‘colored’ or ‘mixed,’ as you cite in earlier comments?”

    I’ve already addressed this: they do. The Coloureds of South Africa have their own identity – they see themselves as neither “black” nor “white,” but something distinct. Similar patterns are evident in Latin America. Even many Latin Americans who identify as “white” seem to mean something different than being of entirely/overwhelmingly European descent.

    nikcrit: “feels sort of odd to hear Trainspotter and Suburban_elk speak of the real anti-white lingo and discourse that is out there in the popular culture”

    You don’t come across to me as viciously anti-white, by any means. However, you often come across as functionally anti-white, by which I mean the needling comments you make which serve no purpose but to undermine white identity – while posturing as non-hostile.

    I’ve seen this a lot IRL with people of mixed background: rarely overtly hostile to white interests, but undermining them when the opportunity arises. This is to be expected, as at the end of the day their interests do not closely align with ours.

    In the struggle against White Genocide that will take place in the coming decades, as the old conservative/liberal paradigm dodders off into obsolescence and is replaced by something new (and old), I expect disproportionate hostility from those of mixed background. Why? Simply put, the anti-white status quo suits them.

    As much or more than anyone else, mixed-race people have an interest in seeing the anti-white system maintained. Under it, they are told that they are the future, so who can blame them? What is White Genocide to us is merely normal and desirable to them. Why should they share our concerns? Of course, the unspoken premise of them being the “future” is that whites are the past – they expand, we disappear. Well, we’ll have a few things to say about that.

  63. PA ~ Yes, if my schedule allows, I’d like to stop by. I really don’t want to hang with a bunch of subcons and spergs though. Germany is another matter.

  64. Nikcrit…

    If you conceive your birth an “accident” THEN what consequences should you expect?

    1. Difficulty in conceiving a “superman” Nikcrit.

    2. Nonchalant attitude towards future progeny.

    3. No identifiable “first principle.”

    4. Laissez-faire over the existential question.

    5. A ho-hum resignation to that accidental “place.”

    Any more ???

  65. Which is all well and good…

    Unless you are bringing that radical autonomy amongst a group of white men seeking to re-establish a viable homeland…

    But alas, you sense JUST AS I DO that these “white men” are not in fact seeking to re-establish a viable homeland BECAUSE the BASIS of which they are trying to solidify a consensus AMONGST regenerate, healthy-minded white men IS NOT BELIEF in objective Supremacy…

    So there is no unifying principle…

    You understand this instinctively YET KNOW NOT WHAT TO DO…. You are EQUALLY DIVIDED between “black liberation” and “white liberation” UNABLE to reject either… Equally unable to embrace white Supremacy. A real “no man’s land.”

    BUT HERE YOU ARE THIRSTING…

    Only sipping… From me.

  66. Positing a “black/white” hybrid as a physical/mental evolutionary culmination IS NO THREAT TO white Supremacy and so IT IS A THREAT to radical liberation IN AN OPEN SOURCE ARENA.

    This is why such conception is not openly discussed in our radically liberated society…

    Such a conception would be up for HARSH SCRUTINY. Such conception is PROMOTION of identity crisis in concrete terms MASQUERADING under “lofty” abstract ideals “supported” by flimsy empirical claims.

    Nikcrit… You are not to be blamed for your radically autonomous origin. But, you are to be accountable for those instances that you FURTHER propagate radical autonomy in others. Even you can sense the “equality” in bearing the consequences of promoting identify crisis in others EVEN WHILE UNDERSTANDING that you possess the choice to solidify proper identity in those very same individuals?

  67. One of the author’s prescriptions was “no residential building over four stories high.”

    Yeah, but how many Americans actually live in residential building over 4 stories high? Maybe 1% or less?

    This is LotB-style NYC parochialism on display.

    People can share a bond and form community around many ‘things.” But even if they wanted to be purely tribal, why not affiliate as ‘colored’ or ‘mixed,’ as you cite in earlier comments?

    Damn, Trickdaddy I wish I had a dime for every hour that you’ve obviously spent wrestling with your swirled genotype. I don’t mean to be funny but have you ever gotten to a point where you considered counseling?

    And didn’t the Colored of South Africa maintain their separate identity partly because it was politically and economically advantageous to do so, especially under apartheid? They had an elevated status enhanced by the fact that so many spoke Afrikaans. I think they’re suffering now, though – I believe that affirmative action is mainly going to fully black South Africans and they’re screwed.

    And the future is also grim for the estimated 10% of white South Africans who are poor:

    http://www.sundaytimes.lk/100328/International/int_17.html

    I wouldn’t expect Obama to be in a huge hurry to admit any of them as political refugees.

  68. “Damn, Trickdaddy I wish I had a dime for every hour that you’ve obviously spent wrestling with your swirled genotype. I don’t mean to be funny but have you ever gotten to a point where you considered counseling?”

    No, not really. 1) I consider my current gig as sort-of a vocational, middle-age take on ‘counseling,’ in its about-face departure from my earller working life; and, 2) In recent years, i’ve actually been becoming concerned about my LACK of inner-focus, which again relates to my change in career.

    If I may make a concession to what i think could be justly called a race-realist view of social hierarchy and all-or-anything such a force incurs; my peers, while doing mag and newsrag cribing, were for the most part social and economic peers, whether in local or national forums; through no fault of their own but rather larger social norms and conventions, it was hard for me to really tell them something novel or make them amenable to me imparting something powerful and noble in and onto their lives. This sounds like a rather trifling aesthetic gripe but it eventually over the years was tantamount to my having a career crisis of consciousness —- that knowing you needed to move on yet having not a clue as on and into what.

    And in my current gig, where i routinely deal with both peers and students who have less education and aspire from a more humble socio-economic sphere (for the most part), i find I have much more influence, purpose, influence —– the tools to make that ever-proverbial “real difference,’ dealing with impoverished NAMs; in fact, i sometimes get galled by some of the negative criticism i get here, because i often feel i use my positive reception with poor NAM kids to impart an uplift vibe that is, yes, believe or not, race-realistic and corrective of some of the biggest Cathedral conceits!

    So, is that condescending? Or noble? I don’t know but i can say with honesty that it’s been a game-changer in terms of my professional raison de tre.

  69. You guys can be the first to see the new page/tab I am setting up for this blog: a “List of Posts” page that will make it easier to browse older posts.

  70. So, is that condescending? Or noble? I don’t know but i can say with honesty that it’s been a game-changer in terms of my professional raison de tre.

    If I’m reading you correct, it’s crazy.

    You made the conscious decision to move into an inner city public school counseling job to save the negro? Before now I just assumed that you got too old or disenchanted with a more artistic/literary career and decided to get a stable teaching job as a stop gap (like so many Americans do for a few years while in career transition).

    And if you really do think a single teacher can make a difference then how can you bear mixing it up with us genetic determinists for all these years? Maybe you’re just attempting to resist the liberal, blank slater tripe that you’ve got to be hearing from upper administration.

    Here’s a funny story about a Georgia DOE official who got fired for noticing something about the successful educational system in Finland:

    http://www.11alive.com/story/news/2016/01/26/department-education-official-fired-after-facebook-posts/79348710/

    I admit, he didn’t make his comment in the most safe or diplomatic way – maybe he coulda just said something “coded” along the lines that Finland gets different educational results than Georgia due to “less socioeconomic disadvantage” or by having less “at-risk” kids who need our support.

  71. “which they call a educational policy implementer… which, beyond all the hype and tortured rhetoric is this: I check on the status of newly installed programs and initiatives across various platforms they’ve been lauched on, while writing briefs, directives asnd advisory assessments”

    All due respect, as the mobsters say, but that sounds like a tax eater job that nobody really needs done. And there are probably a few million more of you out there. Education in America is an absurd sink hole of waste and corruption.

  72. Yeah, but how many Americans actually live in residential building over 4 stories high? Maybe 1% or less?

    This is LotB-style NYC parochialism on display.

    Well the proscription on big buildings would be one of the central tenets of New Urbanism. New Urbanism is the philosophy of civic design that opposes the harmful and de-humanizing effects of scale.

    It is a big topic, and i would like to see it reconciled it with White Advocacy. This paragraph expresses concerns along those lines,

    In HBD circles more should be said about how urbanism just isn’t good for the planet’s most worthy ethnic groups (NW Europeans and the Japanese). Besides the retarded birth rates it breaks their bond to their ancestral lands and it was those connections that drove their evolution.

    The criticism i like to harp on, is that White advocacy cannot sensibly be based on “white civilization” because the current expression of white civilization is urbanism and the suburbs. The quick and dirty explanation for its ugly expression in urbanism and the suburbs, is SCALE.

    That explanation is useful to a point, but it is not adequate. What has to be considered is what makes people susceptible to subsuming themselves into a SCALED society which ultimately they don’t like, and which works against them.

    The situation and its seeming inevitability, quickly (and repeatedly?) becomes an irresolvable problem – or rather not a Problem but a Predicament, as Greer would call it – a predicament being a problem for which there is no solution.

    SCALE arises because of its advantages in the competitive environment that we live in. Intelligent people want to come up with a solution, but their intelligence is lost in the shuffle.

    But without worrying about those big problems, it is nice to think that we could build livable communities. The simple Solution is that Men have to be qualified with decision making authority on the basic questions of what to do with public space, and what space is considered public in the first place, and the question of who is in the community comes even before that.

    (I was walking through the effin mall recently, not the Big One but one of the those little L-shaped corner dealies, and it is such a cliche with the chain barbecue restaurant on the one end and the grocery store on the other and the 24-hour fitness and the nail salon, and those SE Asian nail painters are Americans now and they get one vote too.)

    But as regards worrying about civic design and more pleasant living space? that actually gets in the way of White advocacy BECAUSE the more competitive the living arrangement (the environment) we find ourselves in, the less sensibly regulated social policy can be afforded. It comes down to doing whatever is necessary and not worrying about the pretty trees and the clean water and the non-irradiated air.

  73. I agree Peterike but I’m cutting Trickdaddy slack on that one. How many of us aren’t vocationally one degree removed from the war machine or usury industries, or employed in some federal-compliance facilitation capacity? I sure as heck am not a coal miner.

    The Beast’s-servant-with-a-soul is a recurring motif in distopian literature. Winston Smith was employed as a history-rewriter and Houellebecq’s protagonists all worked for some fluff/bullshit state agency.

  74. Education in America is an absurd sink hole of waste and corruption.

    Oh,if you only knew, peterike… but hey, it’s fun —– a job in which the line between blogging and working is well, very fine if not quiet non-existent.

    But I will say this in my defense: this is the first time ive ever worked a ‘public’ job, in this instance a ‘state’ job —– and to this day I am amazed at the lopsided levels of quality control between the two kinds of employment. While there are plenty of exceptional talents in both kinds of gigs, by and large some of the ‘administrators’ i’ve seen in the public sphere couldnt as much be janitors in the private world.

  75. Education in America is an absurd sink hole of waste and corruption.

    Speaking of education, i posted this comment at CH the other day, and it was a little out of place there, but it fits into the theme of a better living arrangement:

    At the coffee shop there is this group of high school girls, high status ones, but not the party slut clique but rather the A- or B+ level social proof girls with good looks and some brains.

    But this gaggle is “studying” their books. Ok, first – anybody engaged in any real thinking, any real clarity of thought and mind – is not doing it at a noisy cafe and surrounded by all that.

    But second, the real point is that, these girls and their time skills talents and brains – and HANDS – would be one hundred MILLION times better spent, engaged in real world tasks otherwise known as CRAFTS. Sewing knitting cooking and yes mechanics for those outliers so inclined.

    Book learning is a subset of intelligence that is suited for 2 or 3 per cent of people, and that 2 or 3 per cent is not (necessarily) the most intelligent.

    The brain is engaged to Life by doing things that have use and value. Staring at pictures and symbols (including words) on a page as the PRIMARY focus for girls and boys, and young people all over – is SO DUMB.

    School (as it stands) is for idiots. What a waste of time. I am not in school, and only get the indirect impressions such as from those girls. They don’t need to be staring at books, they need to be crafting. Same with boys who ought to be building – and playing sports and learning to fight, and influence and persuade.

    **************

    Saying that book learning is best for 2 or 3 per cent is an arbitrary estimate, and it is incorrect in the sense that books should be a supplement for most people, but for very few people will books be effective as the primary thing.

    The rise of computers and the internet would lead us away from crafts, but i think it is a dead-end. We are not going to be able to maintain it.

    [I remember reading it. That was a great point. -PA]

  76. Public Life is being revamped right now. Everyone is withdrawing as much as possible and the internet is exploding with real talk.

    So what is going to happen?

    It has to hit the streets. It is hitting the streets. Iowa is next week and Trump is gonna kill, and then everyone is gonna be like, fuck the niggers and then we go for the jews. / kidding

    It’s still funny because we are still not supposed to say it. The only people who could do nigger and jew jokes were Chris Rock and Sacha Cohen?

    Well their time is over. It’s our time now. Sea Change for real, “It’s happening” except not in that gay way like in that Cameron Crowe movie where those fanboys are cumming in their pants because Zeppelin is in town, but in another way.

  77. I did not mean to derail this thread into the parity of Sweet Lozenges for Great Society.

    But White advocacy has to come first, and then Prescriptions for Better Living.

    We can only have a great society if it is made up of the right people.

  78. “School (as it stands) is for idiots. What a waste of time. I am not in school, and only get the indirect impressions such as from those girls. They don’t need to be staring at books, they need to be crafting. Same with boys who ought to be building – and playing sports and learning to fight, and influence and persuade.”

    Yeah, i agree with much of this and see evidence for that view day-after-day-after-day….it’s a real shame to see these classes with inner-city boys, while some young, white suburban teacher, freshly into the ghetto from Baraboo or Eagle River, trying to impart the lesson from Jane Austen’s “Sense and Sensibility” to a loud, noisy and absolutely indifferent classroom.

    Meanwhile, the schools have been eliminating their vocational-tech programs!! Of the few that remain, i’ve seen kids who do absolutely nothing in reg-ed classrooms become totally immersed in the auto-tech programs, etc.; I mean, beyond learning the skills required for hi-end labor gigs (and i’ve seen auto vendors come in for these trade shows; they’re begging to fill $20-plus-per-hr. jobs but can’t find qualified candidates!) these otherwise delinquent truants learn equally invaluable secondary traits, such as personal responsibility, deadline-follow-through, pride in their work and other basic but integral citizenship skills.

    Yet you’ll see administrative and school board initiatives to cut such programs because they ‘predestine’ working-class youth to ‘subservient’ blue-collar jobs……. fukin’ unbelievable

  79. But no one really wants to talk about the black body/white mind “evolutionary hybrid” BECAUSE it is NO takedown of white Supremacy AND WILL PUT your layman liberal on grounds rooted in ideas of objective Supremacy to which one is just not trained and studied adequately enough to handle. And this does not even address the lifetime’s worth of ideological brainwashing to BE anti-Supremacy ANYTHING that one must overcome.

    MOST individuals cannot even conceive objective Supremacy = Perfection and so talks of an “evolutionary hybrid” is all lip service and no substance.

  80. Lately with Trump, it is really come down to it. Anyone who doesn’t like Trump, it’s just like, what’s their fucking problem?…..It is so obvious that the guy is a real person, and that he likes life and that he likes other people, and that he considers himself an American, and that he is white. He has a brilliant forceful personality and a sense of humor….. They try to pin on him that his positions on things have changed. That particular charge – of omg! changing a position on something – since when is it not a good idea to constantly and always be re-evaluating one’s position and approach, to any complex problem? As if there are “guiding principles” which provide all answers to practical problems.

    I’ve got this non-student-attendance day off and am chilling while flipping through the three cable-news channels obsessing over today’s caucusing; i sort-of agree —– that Trump’s admission at least drops the sorta silla de facto vilifying that any rich public goy male undergoes now in msm. I also agree that one needn’t be trashed for ‘changing positions,’ though i do understand how that can be a political liability when it’s teamed with blatant self-interest, etc.

    But I wonder just how much the AR’s backing of him is about agreeing with his literal positions on major policies vs. giving a collective flip-off to the p.c.-conventions of contemporary politicos and constituencies of both prevailing parties? I mean, to me it’s not negligible to say that Trump is a raging egomaniac who genuinely is incapable of empathizing; that he is, in truth, totally indifferent to ‘Cathedral’ norms, to the extent that they have nothing to do with him personally; and that even his stated positions, particularly on labor and economic positions, are direct anathema to Dark Englightenment’s self-interest….It’s this last fact that makes me believe that manosphere support for him is more a ‘fuck-u’ to its enemies than a real embrace of Trump and his political agenda.

  81. Although in ACTUALITY, Nikcrit, you are just deepening the fraud… THOSE WHO “man” that machinations of the zeitgeist ARE STILL high IQ “while” male LIBERATIONISTS!!!

    THEIR SUPPORT FOR TRUMP IS PURE DEFLECTION from THIS FACT! Their “support” is a pretend support for “white supremacy” FOR THE VERY PURPOSE of watching “it” crash and burn. A smart Trump knows this… Knows that he can “fall” quite spectactularly… AND WHEN HE DOES… WHO REALLY GETS CRUSHED??? Not Trump. Not the VIRTUAL alt-rite. WHO.DO.YOU.THINK.REALLY.GETS.CRUSHED?

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  84. PA, I’m new here and I love your site, thank you for this forum.
    I know I’m late to this particular discussion but I had some thoughts I wanted to share.
    I am a Soutron, and approximately 80% germanic origin, the other 20% being native american. I never knew I was mixed jntil this year, for I am a bastard and grew up without my father’s family.
    I can commiserate somewhat with nic’s dilemma; identity wise, where do I belong here? The fact that this question must even be asked sheds quite a bit of light on what thordaddy said, and I paraphrase but essentially that we (mixed individuals) must hold our parents (in my case great-grandparents) accountable for mixing. I am the result and my identity confusion is baked into that cake.
    Although I am not completely satisfied with this. I am white Supremacist, but I am just as proud of my native heritage as of my european. I am not a White supremacist. I think that all races have “something” that makes them supreme in various strata. For example whites seem to master intelligence in a way conducive to building and creating and warfare. Asians seem to be spiritually aware of things (in an intelligent and civilized manner) that long ago became “taboo” for europeans to think of at the expense of their pagan roots. Certain African tribes seem to be well versed in matters of the soulful creative process and of triba warrior spirit. Similarly, Native Americans seem tobe well versed in the Great Spirit, and intelligent, although lacking in the agency to move from a barbaric savage society to civilization. Although it could be argued to a certain extent that civilization is dehumanizing and creates untermensch like we see today.
    Therefore I am proud of who God molded me to be. My particular mix does seem beneficial to me. I have a high IQ and I have high aptitude toward putting my hands to anything. I work hard and need purpose therein but am also rafher book-learned for a bastard of the lower class. Also I am spiritual of mind and I have a personal connection with God, something a lot of (pure) white christians miss out on because they are just going by the motions which is a characteristic of modern white peoples.
    So in a way I feel blessed for my mix, however it has come at a cost.
    It should come as no surprise then that I say mixing is by and large inappropriate, although some intermarriages are inevitable given proximity between tribes; however to have it forced down our throats as is presently the situation is unacceptable.
    But what am I to do? I want a wife and children, yet it seems I would upset many by my racial impurity if I were to take a white woman to wife.
    PA you once (I think it was you) alluded to a nice looking teenage white girl in the cafe talking to an (approximately) octaroon, and how it disgusted you.
    I am basically the analog to this, octaroon in my case meaning one 8th amerind.
    Like you, I would’ve been disgusted, and conversely, I do not think you would be disgusted if it were me, although I could be wrong about this.
    Do some races mix better? There is a large difference between an octaroon of my extraction and that of negroe.
    Lolz I have to watch out for the firewater a little more but I do not seem to feel the same proclivity to totally uncivilized nature, although the more tribal the more attractive to my mind. That should go without saying given my particular mix.
    I suppose another meaningful difference is my willingness to assimilate into white culture. But I must say that my other origin is not dishonorable in my heart, and the lessons and knowings of that lost race, the first to be deracinated by USGov, shall be taught to my children. If other whites around me don’t like that, I would ask them to examine their own DNA: you would be hard put to find a white Southron without some small mix of amerind or even hebrew blood for that matter, as back in the old country a lot of mixing between europeans and jews ensured that most of us have a small portion of jew blood as a result.
    I am not in disagreement to most of the views expressed on this page with regards to your answers to nickrit, however; I found myself wondering how others might theorize upon my own circumstances.

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