Disgust

It is not strong minds, but weak stomachs that destroy leftist regimes.

Below is my translation of Zbigniew Herbert’s “The Power of Taste” (orig: “Potęga Smaku”) on that very subject. He explains that anti-communist dissidents like himself were not so much men of character, as men who were disgusted with what they saw.

The translated poem:

It did not require great character at all
our refusal our disagreement and resistance
we had the necessary shred of courage
but fundamentally it was a matter of taste

Yes taste
In which there are fibers of soul the cartilage of conscience

Who knows
If we had been better and lovelier tempted
Sent rose-skinned women as slim as wafers
Or fantastic creatures from the paintings of Hieronymus Bosch

But what hell they made instead
A wet pit the murderers’ alley the barrack
Called The Palace of Justice
A home-brewed Mephisto in a Lenin jacket
Sent Aurora’s grandchildren out into the field
Boys with potato faces
Very ugly girls with red hands

Verily, their rhetoric was made of cheap sacking
(Marcus Tullius kept turning in his grave)
Chains of tautologies a couple of concepts like flails
The dialectics of butchers no distinctions in reasoning
Syntax deprived of the beauty of the subjunctive

So aesthetics can be helpful in life
One should not neglect the study of beauty

Before we declare our consent we must carefully examine
The shape of the architecture the rhythm of the drums and pipes
Official colors and burial rituals

Our eyes and ears refused obedience
The princes of our senses proudly chose exile

It did not require great character at all
We had a shred of the necessary courage
But fundamentally it was a matter of taste

Yes taste
That commands us to turn our backs to make a wry face draw out a sneer
Even if for this the precious capital of the body the head
Must fall

  • (The original Polish-language poem is HERE. Musician Przemysław Gintrowski performs it HERE. Herbert lived from 1924 to 1998.)

Weimerica. With her reptilian usurper class and bovine welfare class. Her shameless freaks and slovenly women. Her refugee camps known as suburbs. Her flaxen-haired children shamed and despised. Her “Happy Holidays.”

Equalism drives the public space down to its ugliest common denominator. Its fruits taste like ipecac.

So nevermind the darkness
We still can find a way
The nightmare’s almost over
When you puke at the profane.

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You know what gets me about this photo? It’s not the stitches. It’s this boy’s eyes, and his fingers in his mouth. A shocked child grasps for security that way. This little boy was betrayed by his country. Those responsible will burn in hell but one hopes that the traitor filth and the invader vermin are dispatched there like rabid dogs.

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44 thoughts on “Disgust

  1. Who knows
    If we had been better and lovelier tempted
    Scent rose-skinned women as slim as wafers
    Or fantastic creatures from the paintings of Hieronymus Bosch

    Am i right? and if not apologies.

  2. It’s “Sent,” as in “if they had sent us pretty women instead.” Herbert didn’t use punctuation in this poem so in places it may be unclear if you read fast.

    I might tweak my translation. Maybe change “sent” to “with” if that improves the flow in English.

  3. John Ruskin noted many years ago that taste is a moral quality. Link to his full quote at the end. It’s very good.

    I think it’s true that disgust, moral indigestion, is what often ends bad regimes. But I also think we’ve been too debased in America and the West in general (not so much the East of the West). Not only did we sit back and accept gays everywhere and race mixing everywhere, now we are politely accepting trans freaks, and we’ve already seen the push is coming for pedophilia to be normalized as well as polygamy and incest. Where does such a populace find it’s moral distaste? What foul pit will smell rank to our corrupted noses, stuffed with shit?

    http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/ruskin/traffic1.html

  4. “What foul pit will smell rank to our corrupted noses, stuffed with shit?”

    I imagine these piles of shit as the firewood. The spark that sets things off won’t necessarily out-stink the general rot, but rather it may be a relatively innocuous event that for one reason or another turns out to be the moment when people say “enough.” When the acummulated rot isn’t just something people collectively accept as normal and do their best to navigate around, but it becomes personal.

  5. Not only did we sit back and accept gays everywhere and race mixing everywhere, now we are politely accepting trans freaks, and we’ve already seen the push is coming for pedophilia to be normalized as well as polygamy and incest. Where does such a populace find it’s moral distaste?

    Well, it’s probably not a surprise given my established bona fides, but i don’t think you can put race mixing in the same category as homosexuality, not to mention pedophiia, polygamy and incest. It’d be redundant to list of ‘why’ right now, but i’ll just swing for the fences once this moment and say, from the overall ontological perspective, you wouldn’t have ‘the white race’ or races, period, if race mixing wasn’t the perpetual cog of evolution that it’s been, however infitestimal a movement to single human being’s ‘here and now.’

    Not so for the other dreads and debaucheries in your list.

    I too feel current contemporary culture is jaded, decadent and ripe for a moral overhaul; (personally, i have a half-assed theory that the recent ‘digital age’ accelerated said decline by speeding up the level of access and glut to and from things wholely and partially decadent and once hard to access). I try to keep in mind that however much current times seem awry, there was really a lot more cutural decadence by the end of the 1970s than there is now (i read a academic journal essay by catherine mckinnon on how one could access bestiality porn at Times Square peep shows then, which is apparently forbidden now, etc.); that era was followed by Reagan’s “New Morning in America” and a cutural moral cleansing —– yet here we go again, come this new millenium.

    Times change, but times remain the same, i believe the ol’ saying goes —— which also reminds me that there ain’t nothing new under the sun.

  6. nikcrit: “Not so for the other dreads and debaucheries in your list.”

    Acceptance of race mixing is basically acceptance of extinction, from the white perspective. The other “dreads and debaucheries” are of little consequence to a dying people – mere secondary infections that prey upon the already weakened body.

    Turning this around will require the reassertion of a healthy white identity, after which clearing up the secondary infections will be a relative cakewalk. Our enemies understand this, which is why they tolerate disagreement on the various “dreads and debaucheries,” but will not budge in their total opposition to a healthy, positive white identity. They understand that if they lose on that point, they lose on everything. Conversely, if we win on that point, we win on everything.

    Race mixing (of whites) is the foundation upon which this rotten house was built.

  7. Acceptance of race mixing is basically acceptance of extinction,

    I don’t believe that. I guess i do believe in an old-school pluralism: meaning, i respect whites who socialize and procreate only with other whites by personal doctrine, as well as whites who don’t hold such doctrine…. I believe there is worth and value to biracials —- but i don’t hold it as doctrine that much compete and/or prevail with monocultural whites.

    forgive me, and i agree with you cultural complaint re. whites in a lot of what you say, but i think at times you guys are too defensive —– to the point of irony, in which you end up aping the very whiney victim-mongering libs and certain minorities that you initially called out.

    for the record: i think those are maladies that befall any leading sector in a given moment and place in history. But white westerners, in our given epoch, are the leading composite of present humanity writ large, and our for the most part the group to best emulate in terms of moving civilization forward.

  8. trainspotter,
    If i may have another minute re. our last give-and-take: think of it this way: white-western human and aesthetic capitol comes from its being a balance of humanity overalll —- somewhere in the middle between more primitive yet vital African and Hispanic humanity, yet not as cerebral and detached as the upper-reachers of N.E. Asian and Ashkenazim aggregate IQ.

    Yet the two ‘extreme’ racial groups from that human range have something whites en masse don’t: the numbers, the total perecentage of population; that’s crude —– but that, too, is a form of human capitol that has to be reckoned with in some sort of manner, and which upon being reckoned with will yield some sort of consequence, or benefit, case may be.

    I mean, perhaps as Elk says, ‘unfortuantely, we have to kill you off —– and perhaps that will happen. But will there not be an aesthetic cost? Will you cleanse, say, 2/5ths of the world’s population and then simply retreat into superior western morals, aesthetics and other day-to-day protocols? No, i say —– and without gusto or vengeance —– the white man’s burden is sublime; there’s no way around it; it’s your debt and duty from being a part of the ideal human ‘mid-range’ of evolutionary development.

    I believe in white solidarity but i do think it’s folly to yearn for this racial absolutism that is simply not possible in this day and age, never mind that the greatest single reason it’s not possible is because technological innovation and other staples of modernism, which of course are almost solely the providence of white western culture!

  9. Nikcrit, I think you’re doing shots with Elk. Your wild tangent about exterminating 5 billion people sounds overimaginative, to put it generously. You come across like you’re uneasy about us striving to secure exclusive White homelands as they’ve existed from 10,000 years onward and a future for White children. Did you see the boy I posted in Update 3?

  10. PA, the ‘cleansing’ remark was intentional hyperbole in specific response to elk doing the same a few posts back, e.g., we’ll have to kill ya,’ etc…….no, i am NOT uneasy with white security and soveirgnty; in fact, i’m INsecure with the thought of a disappearing white race and civilization being proudly and gratefully emulated. This even though i’m ok with pluralism, including half-western mutts such as myself and the POTUS.

    More seriously: i’m trying to make the point that one can be pro-white yet not a racial absolutist; for those who are absolutist, i propose we can have a new, udpated racial detente upon such ‘enemies’ by at least listening to each other and engaging with a real person rather than the convenient caricatures we often reduce the other to —– precisely BECAUSE we don’t aesthetically care about said other and don’t believe there’s a consequence in doing as much. But there is, I say.

  11. re. the boy in your picture: no, i was going to ask you who he is —— though given this familiar blog circumstance, i’m sure he’s the victim of some shameful racial outrage…..

    Look, i said what i did in the preceding comments precisely because I’m frustrated that polemics constantly create such fates i’m assuming this boy endured….. As for my part, as the man of color here, am I supposed to excuse such travesty, or make excuses for it—- upon which the rest of you here can counter-bum-rush my rhetorical folly?

    No, i’m sick of such stuff happening —— and so are milions of other half-breeds and pure hottentots; and i’d like to get that established and build from there, while many on ‘your side’ would prefer to keep stoking the outrage and inciting confrontation.

    And of course may saying that means i just want to sweep things under the rug, right?

  12. nikcrit: “I believe there is worth and value to biracials —- but i don’t hold it as doctrine that much compete and/or prevail with monocultural whites.”

    There are plenty of mixed populations across the planet, from the Coloureds of South Africa to much of Latin America. I don’t have a problem with them – I do have a problem with promoting policies that turn homogeneous white populations into non-white populations. That’s White Genocide – the intentional destruction of white societies.

    nikcrit: “…i think at times you guys are too defensive —– to the point of irony, in which you end up aping the very whiney victim-mongering libs and certain minorities that you initially called out.”

    This is about our survival as a people. We are being invaded on a massive scale, propagandized to mix, dissenters punished. Only one point of view is taught by every system institution. We’re not whiners who want to get something from other groups – we want separation. Most White Nationalists would give away the store just to separate: non-whites get the wealth, we’ll start out with log cabins. Of course, anti-whites are having none of this – diversity means chasing down the last white person. They want White Genocide.

    nikcrit: “…white-western human and aesthetic capitol comes from its being a balance of humanity overalll…”

    This is a fundamentally mistaken way of viewing the matter. Yes, it’s true that by certain metrics we are “between” other groups, but this completely misses (and obfuscates) the reality of the situation. We are a distinct people, both genetically and in terms of the civilizations that we create. You do not simply mix Asian & African people/culture and get us. We are something distinct, not just a mixture of Chinatown & Nairobi (not that you’re saying we are, exactly, just making the point).

    nikcrit: “I believe in white solidarity but i do think it’s folly to yearn for this racial absolutism that is simply not possible in this day and age…”

    I have no inherent animosity toward any non-white – my animosity is limited to those who promote White Genocide. It’s hackneyed to say “Some of my best friends are…” but in my case it happens to be true. I can like and even admire a non-white, while still being absolutely determined to see the existence of my own people secured. There is no contradiction whatsoever in this. I have every reason to believe that there are any number of non-whites who have thought highly of me personally, but would in no way support the demographic destruction of their own people. This is as it should be.

    In my vision of the future all peoples have their own homelands with full sovereignty and self-determination – including whites and, yes, including those who are of mixed background.

    Clearly there are some people who want to mix. Any white who wants to mix would be free to leave the white homeland and mix to his heart’s content. Good riddance. However, he would not be free to import a non-white wife, create mixed race children, and turn the white community into a mixed community. That’s not something he gets to impose on others.

  13. You come across like you’re uneasy about us striving to secure exclusive White homelands

    You’ve said that to me previously in earlier blogs we frequented; you’re right, i’ve never directly confronted the concept of ‘exclusive white homelands,’ and you’re right, it’s probably because it felt a bit awkward.

    But i could say with honesty that i’d be ok with the idea. Now, i might say it’d be tricky doing as much in Europe and the America, because you have significant, multi-generations of Afro-Americans and Afro-Europeans. But i believe it would be ok for racial strictures in places like Russia, which to the best of my knowledge doesn’t have a large non-white population that would be displaced; you probably know of some eastern-European places and reformed territories that i don’t where the same would apply.

    To be clear: I both appreciate the civilizational advancements of white culture AND appreciate its aesthetics; I know that many other minorities don’t. I just really, sincerely believe that creating more honest and realistic portrayals of each other across racial lines will create a healthier state for all involved. Otherwise, it’s like the engagment and false convictions that has come from engaging on the stifling platform of politically correct sanctimony in recent decades —— all the false complaint and moral posturing slowly kills us all.

  14. As for my part, as the man of color here, am I supposed to excuse such travesty, or make excuses for it—- upon which the rest of you here can counter-bum-rush my rhetorical folly?

    Nikcrit, Trainspotter just addressed your comments on a dialectical level. I have nothing to add to what he so cogently wrote. To me as a father, I know what having a homeland, and hope for the future looks and feels like. I also know what it feels like to contemplate nightmare scenarios. There are scores of millions like me and we all want the same thing and what we want is not negotiable from our perspective.

    And where do you fit in all this? Per your disclosures, you are a man approaching his 50s, living comfortably, and not married or with children. You can join your local college BlackLivesMatter, but you are not dong that. You could simply ignore White Identitarian movement, but you won’t. So here you are, still around after five or so years. Shouldn’t you have at least learned that (a) we say things that you find uncongenial, and (b) nothing you say on those subject changes anyone’s mind?

  15. Per your disclosures, you are a man approaching his 50s, living comfortably, and not married or with children. You can join your local college BlackLivesMatter, but you are not dong that. You could simply ignore White Identitarian movement, but you won’t. So here you are, still around after five or so years. Shouldn’t you have at least learned that (a) we say things that you find uncongenial, and (b) nothing you say on those subject changes anyone’s mind?

    lolzz. No, you’re quite right; i am a bit ‘above the fray’ in these matters, and i know that can be annoying….no, i’m not in the midwest chapter of BLM but trust that i do plenty of role-modeling and outright counseling with young NAMs as an offshoot of my nine-to-five; i volunteered chaperoned such an event on this very night…..what i’ve learned after several years on alt-right websites? plenty, but no, i never expected or particularly wanted to change anyone’s mind—– but if i did, it wasn’t through some theoretically dogged argument; still, i don’t think it’s conceited to believe that my overall presence and impression over the years in the alt-right sphere might’ve changed some alt-righters presumptions of NAMs writ large, no?

    In any case, i’m not threatened by the movement; i’m an outlier whose being consists of two often-opposed groups, so i’m interested in socially dialectical deeds and issues, like other halfricans I know.

    Still, polemics aside, everyday, i think we americans are growing meta and meta!!

  16. There is no such thing as being “above the fray.” It’s a pretense you can keep up as long as things you value aren’t threatened.

  17. It’s a pretense you can keep up as long as things you value aren’t threatened.

    IDK. I simply meant that, right or wrong, i don’t feel personally threatened by all this; it’s interesting to me, the psychodynamics probably tied into my halfrican-ness —– or as you’ve put it in the past, my ‘search for validation,’ or something like that.

    It’s also borne out of boredom with the sort-of p.c. status quo. you may be mildly surprised by this, but i rarely feel like i’m the victim of ‘raycism;’ truth be told, i think i’m often accorded a unearned fealty from being sorta outlier black, halfrican, etc. a status that often pays off in terms of job opps to personal-interaction deference and even in interpersonal relationships at times. but benefitting or not, i don’t think it’s healthy, thus my earlier stated urge to ‘create more real banter’ across racial lines, etc…… your commenter beta-phi last week offered a real nice breakdown on how the winds of p.c. have both increased and decreased over hte last 20 years, ending on a hopeul note by race-realist standards; it offered a real statistical approach that tuned into a lot of social-interactive developments that often get overlooked —— yet, the hopeful implication rested on the thought that once current p.c. pieties do subside, some new mood favorable to alt-right pieties would settle in and cultural homeostasis would follow, with suddenly all those insightful fluctuations going flat and a permanent race-realistic norm settling in.
    that’s a conceit i often see in alt-right prognostications; i’m sure SJW-inclined equivalents are just as common in their prognostications.

    In any case, my apologies for any rhetorical overindulgences tonight; i dipped a bit too generously in the administrative open-bar after chaperoning for an hour…..g’night…

  18. Two things made me ghate communism viscerally its bleakness and ugliness. Karlsbad and the Brandenburg Gate come to mind.

  19. Where does such a populace find it’s moral distaste? What foul pit will smell rank to our corrupted noses, stuffed with shit?

    Take it easy, old man! just be kind.

  20. Sorry for that weakness – it was a joke! and it failed – no one bats a thousand

    Hobbits have hairy feet, do you get it?

  21. nikcrit: “…white-western human and aesthetic capitol comes from its being a balance of humanity overalll…”

    This is a fundamentally mistaken way of viewing the matter. Yes, it’s true that by certain metrics we are “between” other groups, but this completely misses (and obfuscates) the reality of the situation. We are a distinct people, both genetically and in terms of the civilizations that we create. You do not simply mix Asian & African people/culture and get us. We are something distinct, not just a mixture of Chinatown & Nairobi (not that you’re saying we are, exactly, just making the point).

    Well, thank you for that last sentence, because it absolves me of precisely what you accuse me of in the first sentence of that comment.

    No, I didn’t mean to imply that whites are this purely derived physical midpoint of Africans and Asians; of course they are distinct human beings. Nonetheless, I do believe the real point of my remark is true: that whites are somewhat fated to the strictures of ‘the white man’s burden;’ e.g., they’re always going to be exemplars for the future of mankind, to some degree. and when or if they don’t, they and the rest of said mankind will suffer greatly. That is why I think current anti-white sentiment is so flawed and downright fatalistic.

  22. nikcrit: “Well, thank you for that last sentence, because it absolves me of precisely what you accuse me of in the first sentence of that comment.”

    No, it doesn’t. You claimed that whites are a “balance of humanity.” That’s absurd.

    nikcrit: “Nonetheless, I do believe the real point of my remark is true: that whites are somewhat fated to the strictures of ‘the white man’s burden;’ e.g., they’re always going to be exemplars for the future of mankind, to some degree.”

    Whites aren’t going to exist as a people in the future unless we secure our own homelands.

    nikcrit: “But i could say with honesty that i’d be ok with the idea. Now, i might say it’d be tricky doing as much in Europe and the America, because you have significant, multi-generations of Afro-Americans and Afro-Europeans. But i believe it would be ok for racial strictures in places like Russia…”

    Very charitable of you, nik. Nice that whites don’t have a right to their ancestral homelands in Europe because, after all, traitorous anti-white governments imported some non-whites. Therefore, for all eternity, Europe must be mixed race. Seems reasonable. Never let it be said that non-whites don’t offer whites a fair deal.

    Allow me to make a counteroffer. Europe is ours and ours alone. Every single non-white will be removed from every single square foot of Europe – no exceptions. This can only be done once the anti-white governments are removed and the traitors brought to justice – but once that happens, it’s over for the invaders in very short order.

  23. Trainspotter, OK. But please at least give me some heads up time to pack my bags. ….. Seriously, I guess we have indisputable differences if u believe African Americans should all be deported. I feel that way in large part because as far back as I can gather information, America IS my homeland.

  24. nikcrit: “Seriously, I guess we have indisputable differences if u believe African Americans should all be deported.”

    That’s not what I said. I said that Europe belongs to the Europeans, and we must reclaim all of it. North America is a different situation, and I believe balkanization is inevitable there.

  25. Yes, I see I didn’t take into account what you said before my retort. My bad…….. I’ve always felt these blogs serve a dual purpose: one part is serious or semiserious exchanges of analysis & ideas, the other is providing a place for venting—– piss-n-vinegar posts I call it. IMO, both are valid podiums in moments; its just that the latter isn’t appropriate place for the likes of me & other respectful interlopers interested in the more objective interludes. But its hard to separate those two models ‘cuz the conversational flow sometimes veers rapidly back-n-forth, which makes for awkward exchanges, etc

  26. the other is providing a place for venting—– piss-n-vinegar posts I call it

    That’s actually something I am actively avoiding on this blog. See my About page for the mission statement. The “disgust” post for example was not written for the purpose of venting but to understand Leftism in terms of an engineering problem that needs to be solved.

  27. There is a change in air, it is crystalized. After my performance at CH the other day, and here, i am a fundamentally not a serious person. But my point is, that there are lot of guys – men – left in this country, and they are not all drinking themselves to death, and they are seriously very angry.

    A couple of place they congregate on the net, i could list – but they have laid how there is an ethical obligation to “restore” the original form of government – and since the people in there now are not willing to walk away – what that restoration “might” entail.

    Like i said, these guys are cops, engineers, ex-military, cowboys – and they know about guns. My job would – WOULD, in that HYPOTHETICAL – be to provide support in the form of food (potatoes mainly), and moral encouragement – but to Fight? i would have to be motivated, somehow by forces up to this time unknown.

    That is one thing about that video, The Lion, has been on fire lately, gets right, and makes it so compelling. Those Germans then, they were able to switch modes, going from happy workers, to “let’s kill them all.” And they switched on a dime (or so it seems in retrospect – maybe that’s not true) and found that courage and strength, under the circumstances. And realistically – in the coming troubles, courage and strength might (or might not) be sufficient.

    I don’t think anyone can really imagine, what’s in store. One question is whether the economic contraction is a punctuated descent – think of a box of marbles or maybe a bowling ball dropped and rolled down the stairs; or maybe it is more of a black swan cataclysm – which, if that is the case, i would think would be more likely an environmental as opposed to economic trigger.

  28. I just really, sincerely believe that creating more honest and realistic portrayals of each other across racial lines will create a healthier state for all involved. Otherwise, it’s like the engagment and false convictions that has come from engaging on the stifling platform of politically correct sanctimony in recent decades —— all the false complaint and moral posturing slowly kills us all.

    I agree with that, to a point. But that sort of mentality, the false caricaturizations? that is WN 1.0 (and realistically it is possible that we have had some to do in moving it forward, from there).

    There is love and respect for Others. The problem with the multirace multicult – is that you can’t love and respect them, because you are fighting, and when you get old, fighting all the time – though you seem not to acknowledge that. You (we) are fighting because we ARE in competition.

    And as a non-family man, i often feel uninvested and could not give a shit. But then sure enough, every time, reality reminds. Do you want to expose the children to a mean old competitive struggle and fight between and among the races? Or does a man want to fight for them.

    Come to think of it though – the children are and will be exposed to the fight – they are part of it. It is just a matter of helping – of being on their side. The struggle between and amongst races – is a fact of biology, it is a precept and an axiom. There is some philosophical leeway (or what would be the branch of philosophy this might fall under? – again, it is ontology, the struggle for meaning and purpose, which is struggle for identity) within the concept of this struggle as a “precept” – leeway, under the question of how people define themselves.

    Race lines are not necessarily solid. Some people are at extremes within their cluster, but it is not “necessarily” so simple as that. Or is it? As an American of mixed (white) background – i don’t know that i can relate to being Russian or Ukrainian, or an Englishman. Truly no country for old men, this.

  29. By the way, that link from The Duke, has been stuck in my head.

    Whatever, black people have an in-the-moment quality, and the necessary dexterity and feel, to be good on the piano. And also in case of The Duke, he had the brain power to learn some complex and difficult progressions. A lot of that is ear power – but there is brain power too.

  30. “Germans then, they were able to switch modes […] And they switched on a dime”

    I have a new post thats tangential to this point. Was gonna post it this morning but I started running with a new thought and will post it later today or tomorrow.

  31. “That is one thing about that video… Those Germans then, they were able to switch modes, going from happy workers, to “let’s kill them all.” And they switched on a dime (or so it seems in retrospect – maybe that’s not true) and found that courage and strength, under the circumstances.”

    First, I’m not sure what video you’re referring to. Anyway…

    It wasn’t switching on a dime. Germany had just suffered a disastrous war that killed millions. There was mass starvation at home. And the Allies hit them with punitive war reparations. In this context, recall that within Germany Jews were partly blamed for Germany losing the war, as they fomented massive worker strikes inside Germany in the waning days of the war, thereby wrecking Germany’s re-supply capability. Jews also helped bring America into the war. That’s hidden history now, but I’m sure in 1917-18 it was widely known.

    Then there followed a period of massive inflation, tremendous unemployment and poverty. Jews did a great deal to consolidate economic power coming out of the war, buying up distressed companies etc. They had a great deal of media control as well. Then you got the whole Wiemar thing, the decadence and corruption, the debasement of German morals. Again, all driven by Jews and Jewish thought. Jews were also highly active among German Communists, as they were active in every European Communist movement and the Communists in America (and still are in their modern incarnation).

    This was boiling for a long time and allowed Hitler to capitalize on it. The fantasy history we get is that Hitler turned on the Jews for no reason at all. They were all just simple, innocent haberdashers! “The man in the corner shop.” That’s absurd. They were the dominant group in Germany in many areas. He had very good reasons for driving them from power, at least.

    Also, shortly after Hitler came to power the life of the typical German worker was made IMMENSELY better. We never hear of this either. Poverty and starvation changed to good paying work and food for all almost over night. Hitler was a tremendous advocate of worker rights. Among the first things he did was cut back on how many hours you could make someone work, as German workers were being massively exploited (again, often by Jewish owners).

    The fact is, before the war Hitler was one of the most successful leaders in Europe, which is why so many admired him. He gave the finger to the globalist banking elite when he refused to pay anymore reparations, and that’s what really got the ball rolling toward war.

    Well, I’m not getting into a whole “what started the war” thing, but the point is that Germans were VERY miserable — far worse off than white America right now — for a long time before they reacted, and it took an incredibly charismatic leader who WON AN ELECTION to get the ball rolling. And also a leader who was committed to the prosperity of his OWN nation, not a globalist.

    There are NO spontaneous revolutions. They all require a leader. As much as I like Trump he’s not the guy who’s going to start a revolution. That person hasn’t appeared yet.

  32. The problem with the multirace multicult – is that you can’t love and respect them, because you are fighting, and when you get old, fighting all the time – though you seem not to acknowledge that. You (we) are fighting because we ARE in competition.

    I’m not dogmatic or in denial; rather, i just genuinely don’t feel that I’m fighting with you or in some sort of unavoidable competition.

    I’ve got a fluid sense of ethnic identity and empathy because it was inculcated from the get-go —-e.g., it’s not a anti-racist moral decree or conceit or any kind of affectation whatsover.

    This point here encapsulates much of the confrontation among commenters here; for those who don’t have an organic sense of cross-ethnic empathy, when they encounter it in others they presume it’s affectation or moral posturing or that forged into political confrontation and battle. But it’s not necessarily the case; for instance, I think you and P.A. have a very difficult time imagining a ‘multi-cult’ identity that isn’t falsely worn. Racial dichotomy isn’t necessarily reflexive. Everyday, a third of the people I work beside are like me in that they have a cross-ethnic identiity that has been totally instilled instilled into their essential being.

    And if I have some mission on these blogs, it’s to say that is who we are —- but it’s NOT a moral confrontation or renouncement of those who are of more traditional stock and orientation. Again, I say the perpetual stereotypes and caricaturization slowly kills us all.

  33. Also, shortly after Hitler came to power the life of the typical German worker was made IMMENSELY better. We never hear of this either. Poverty and starvation changed to good paying work and food for all almost over night. Hitler was a tremendous advocate of worker rights. Among the first things he did was cut back on how many hours you could make someone work, as German workers were being massively exploited (again, often by Jewish owners).

    The fact is, before the war Hitler was one of the most successful leaders in Europe, which is why so many admired him.

    peterike, it’s beyond me to dispute particular or underserved perspective on Hitler the nationalist statesmen and his deeds. But can you appreciate how impoverished these ‘sober and measured’ views of him come off in light of the uncontested mania and terrors he nonetheless unleashed?

    I mean, even if you indulge the transgressive frisson, and throw modern convention to the wind and refuse to pile on the renouncement of him and his deeds, what of the fact that his mania included the displacement of his own people, because accepting defeat was unacceptable to the dictates of his own megalomania? What of the Nero Decree and his overall scorched-earth improvisations during the last year of the war? Does his race-realist revision consider the fact that he destroyed thousands of his own countrymen for the sake of balming his deluded pride?

    I just can’t weighing the ultimate won-lost of the alt-right’s “Hitler Revised” wing; just doesn’t seem even close to being worth it.

  34. I believe that the race problem can be overcome, or transcended – or avoided – on an individual level, in the limited sense that life is an endless compromise. But on the macro, the race issue is not something that can be ignored, or pretended about. The white children suffer for it – in a multicult multirace environment, they will not do as well. They are sensitive – or it can just be said that the sensitive ones will suffer.

    This is why hot white moms with their smart special kids move out to the suburbs. This is not a newsflash.

    The only way that white people can be themselves is if they are in charge. That is just the facts. Again, it gets back to biology, and the struggle for life. If we are sharing living space – we both want to fuck the same women, we both want the most choice fillet.

    America was the land of plenty, so we were able to got along, or at least negotiate a separate peace. I don’t have to link to videos to demonstrate the animosity that is out there, particularly from young black males. Just about everyone (ahem) mellows with age, but when you are young and dumb and full of cum – those guys have to be contained or corralled (at the least). Or at the most. America is a big place.

    Now it is almost eight in the morning, yay?

  35. That is a good context for Hitler, from peterike. Clearly things spun off the rails. He can never be forgiven for making war on the Slavs. Is there a “revisionist” context for that, or even a traditional explanation, besides living space and war and historical rivalries from too much time as next door neighbors?

    And i don’t have my mind made up about the death camps. I wasn’t there. I was pretty enthusiastic about revisionist interpretation, but now i am more middle ground. Those jews were rounded up and died of privation and disease, mostly – but certainly a lot of them were killed with more direct methods, and systematically, in the late stages, at least.
    Some hundreds of thousands, maybe a million? Informed people make a guess of six hundred thousand. Six million is an occult number, as we all know.

    There were no bars of soap, or lampshades. We all know that too – but that is what they told me, in primary school. If that isn’t a weird true story. American is insane. Going to grade school as an energetic kid and spending most of your time with deluded and sexually frustrated women in charge of your … behavior. It is the stupidest idea in a long list of stupid ideas. Well actually the STUPIDEST idea is skinning baby boy penises because … what was the reason for that again? The given explanation was that it prevented the habit of masturbating – but ironically it would have the opposite effect – or i would think so, if such a counter-factual could be evaluated – which it can’t. Why am i talking about that again. I don’t know. It violates the bro code, so apologies.

    But i want these things down on paper, for the record, for the ages.

    A skinned dick is the mark of slave. That is the true explanation, in terms of culture and anthropology. It has the most explanatory power. I will try and make the case that this is topical, if the topic is American is a messed up country. Disgust and ugly.

  36. If the theme of the original post is the ugliness of this modern arrangement and its politics – i would say that those things cannot be separated from the economy, and how it expresses in the living space arrangements that we create for ourselves.

    And specifically the suburbs which are parking lot car farms. There is some architecture in the cities that is worthwhile, but that is few and far between.

    The structure of the economy is based off of human nature, and what can you do about that right? but if we are talking about politics and a vision, we ought to figure out what is the Shining City on the Hill, and ask ourselves why we don’t live there.

    White people had the world in their hands, and they could not manage to arrange it, so i don’t know that White people are so much better than Others.

    I keep coming back to the criticism, that white advocacy cannot be based on the concept of white civilization – because if white civilization were all that, then we wouldn’t be in this position. White civilization is not an adequate check on human nature. White civilization is seriously unbalanced. We point to periods in history or great works of art or this or that – but why can’t we build a nice livable suburb. Why can’t we govern ourselves. Why can’t we just be good men. Those are personal problems, but i see a lot of people suffering from the same.

    Maybe i will be kicked off the all-star team of white advocacy – or maybe that point is good one and needs to be elaborated.

    The “answer” to those questions of Why? has to do with man’s fallen nature, and guys like Matt King spin some good theology around that. Maybe that is the best approach to the human condition and its problems. However, to me, that is unpractical, somehow.

    Why has Christianity lost its appeal. Or on the other hand, maybe it is just that i need to get religion. I wish i could but i can’t help but see things more metaphysically, more in the abstract. I am not an atheist sperg, but in the culture i grew up in, Christianity was not part of it. It was the typical 70s liberal liberalness, where Christians were squares and we were too cool. That may have been a mistake – but again, whether that was a mistake, is another counterfactual that cannot be evaluated. It is what it is.

    By the way, if i can TMI on your asses, my dear mother recently told me that i was not the smartest guy in the family, and that she was, that her test scores were higher than mine. Well jeez mom, then you didn’t make too much of yourself either. Sometimes though she takes poetic license with “the truth”.

  37. peterike,
    if you know of a particular book, link, article, etc. that in your estimation offers a good theory about the cause and effect of WWI, i’d appreciate it you sharing it…… I have a woefully poor overview of that war and knowledge of European history during that period.

  38. in which you end up aping the very whiney victim-mongering libs and certain minorities that you initially called out….

    I think those are maladies that befall any leading sector in a given moment and place in history. But white westerners, in our given epoch, are the leading composite of present humanity writ large, and our for the most part the group to best emulate in terms of moving civilization forward.

    I am so sick of identity politics. But I am a white man so I don’t have any racial or gender identity or else I’d be a white supremacist or a chauvinist, presumably. I guess I and my ilk are left struggling with the great universal questions facing humanity while everyone else flies their personal identity flag and demands whatever.

    And yet, contrary to your claim of mass ennui of the west, I don’t feel uninspired or enervated at all…. in fact, the opposite.

    Did you see the recent successful landing of the Space X Falcon 9? this is Elon Musk’s space program. The Falcon 9 was launched into orbit and then guided to an upright landing. For context, this is the first time this has ever been done. It’s a momentous accomplishment. If you watch that video, I fail to see malaise in that crowd. I see a bunch of white people doing what they do best – pioneering and pushing humanity forward.

  39. Everyday, a third of the people I work beside are like me in that they have a cross-ethnic identiity that has been totally instilled instilled into their essential being.

    I’ve known many people like that, but when it comes to politics these people are rarely for policies favorable to whites explicitly.

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