How To Help Prevent Mudsharking

Part-time blogger and full-time hell-raiser who goes by the pen name “Whorefinder” asks this serious question over at Chateau Heartiste:

I have some very young (under the age of 5) nieces. I am afraid they are growing up in this milieu of influence and may be affected by it. Their parents are decent, strong folk (both together), but I want to ensure they don’t grow up to be mudsharks. As the uncle, how do I do this? Remember, the kids’ TV shows these days are even more pushing mudsharking than not.

My short, glib answer: don’t let them get fat. And get rid of the TV.

For my long answer, read on.

The ultimate and irreversible repudiation of one’s identity is to have children with someone of another race. This is a particularly stinging repudiation when done by a woman, and it is especially true in the context of the state-engineered genocidal assault on White nations, from aggressive desegregation in the United States to the massive importing of immigrants into European homelands. Fifty years ago in homogeneous places, a White woman who crossed racial lines may have been benevolently dismissed as a rare curiosity. Today, she is an unwitting tool in a global war on our people.

There have been several good responses to Whorefinder’s question, all tailored to parents or other relatives whose daughters are, like in his question, of formative age. I provide excerpts from several commenters’ responses below, arranged by key themes. These scenarios assume a stable two-parent home, or at least the father actively involved in raising his daughters.

This post is written for fathers and adult male relatives of child and pre-teen girls and it focuses on the daughter, granddaughter, or niece developing a healthy sense of identity before she matures. Advice regarding teenage girls and young women is a separate discussion.

1. The Fundamentals: Cultivate a Positive Cultural Identity

This first piece of advice to Whorefinder, offered by reliably excellent commenter Carlos Danger, is good to lead things off with because it hits on the fundamentals — transmit a positive identity to your child through storytelling:

Read to them. Read them the great stories you should have had read to you and discuss the stories with them.

The dominant cultural institutions in Western countries have all but openly declared war on you. To live functionally, you have to keep an in mala fide relationship with them, unlike if, say, you had a country of your own. You have a legitimate racial, cultural, religious, and ethnic heritage, which is your child’s birthright and a basis for his or her ability to walk through life confidently and live meaningfully. But in a hostile, nihilistic environment, acculturation of your children is up to you, and reading — storytelling — is one of the most common ways of passing on your ancestral identity.

Read them classic Brothers Grimm fairytales, which will validate the child’s instinctive feelings of prudence in a chaotic world. Greek mythology has perfect allegories for human nature and it teaches courage. I own a thick, beautifully illustrated kids’ edition of major myths that I recommend, Usborne Illustrated Stories from the Greek Myths, 2011 ed. If you are American, also read them children’s stories about the 1776  War of Independence or about frontier settlers. If you are of another nationality, read them your country’s myths.

At your public libraries, look for books published before 2000 or so. Newer books will be infused with politically correct revisionism and illustrations will invariably juxtapose characters of different races, including the ubiquitous White girl with a Black boy. (Aside: be alert for homo-bombs. I once borrowed a nicely illustrated new book about two friends who go adventuring, and BOOM! they suddenly discover that they are in love and on the next page they explicitly marry each other.)

As with everything else involving subtle education, keep the reading light and fun. A heavy-handed or didactic approach is counterproductive. One serious book for three funny or light ones.

2. The Father as Bedrock Figure

On to other commenters’ responses to Whorefinder’s question. Philomathean writes:

The Father must be a psychologically strong man who knows who he is and where he comes from. If he lets his daughters watch TV he must be a formidable counterbalance to its lies.

This is the foundation on which everything else rests. When a woman miscegenates, she overcomes her feminine imperative to genetic hygiene. Her willingness to take that leap into darkness (heh) is driven by her dissatisfaction with men of her own race. Her negative judgment of her own men may or may not be those men’s actual fault in an objective sense but subjectively, that’s her world. Her father is her archetype of the masculine ideal and as such represents either a model of what she embraces or what she rejects.

A strong father also keeps a girl grounded and keeps her from making psyche-damaging mistakes.

3. Don’t AMOG Your Own Case

Salesmanship is key. On a road trip in my twenties, a friend and I stopped at a fast food restaurant in western Kentucky and I flirted with the pretty cashier. My travel companion fancied himself an upstart and in an out-of-character display of cock-blockery, tried to interject with clumsy negs directed at yours truly while she and I talked and eye-fucked each other, completely ignoring him. Back in the car, he sheepishly says to me “You know, I think that the more I babbled, the better I was making you look.” I laughed “Yeah, you were helping me out a lot, thanks man!”

Don’t let your babbling make your adversary look good. Reader Balmung writes:

Above all, you must make sure you are appropriately subtle about your goals, you don’t want to be the crazy uncle at Thanksgiving that rants about Jews and niggers non stop.

This next point by commenter Regular John is related to the previous one:

Kids don’t care about hatefacts and who is or isn’t dangerous. They know who is more likely to be violent. They care about what is cool.

With older girls, teenagers in particular, the worst possible thing you can do is bore them with crime statistics or excite them with stories of abandonment and violence. Chicks dig the Bad Seed.

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Philomathean also adds:

Avoid branding nogs as subhuman scum in front of them. Your nieces are female and it’s nearly impossible for them to abandon their compassion reflex, particularly when every cultural organ is arrayed against such vulgarity.

Good point. If you have to get into HateFacts, slyly refer to astronomical rates of venereal diseases among blacks. But better yet, take her to Walmart to get a good look at the walking-dead fat White single moms with mixed-race kids.

Hostile commenter The Spirit Within offers a related note of caution:

Then just wait til she meets her first middle-class black guy, probably at college. “Oh my God, you’re so nice, you’re not an animal like my dad says, what was he thinking, I can’t even lulz…” Hearts in the eyes, and it’s game over for your agenda at that point.

Eye on the prize: help your daughter develop a positive cultural identity. With that in place, there is little need to tear others down, beyond age-appropriate, smartly delivered common-sense advice.

4. Keep It Natural — Trust Yourself, Trust Your Child

Reader Corvo below ties in a tactically sound way of building identity boundaries between Us and Them, without which a human being reels through life like leaves in the wind:

I don’t rant, but I don’t spare the sarcastic/negative real-talk comments about blacks in everyday conversation with the family, whether I’m talking to her or to another adult in front of her and my other kids. I actually think that one of the most important benefits of having race-real family and friends is the subtle but constant pro-White attitude that underpins most mealtime conversations … times when the kids are halfway listening to their elders talk about current events or something else they don’t quite fully understand, but get the gist of: White is “ours,” good, safe, advanced, accomplished … black and “others” are dangerous, dirty, lazy, etc.

Left to themselves, kids develop a healthy sense of identity, but as mentioned above, you are in a struggle with a hostile institutions, public and private, for your child’s soul. Corvo then underscores that point:

By default, I think most White kids, boys and girls, will grow up to be pro-White if they are not corrupted/brainwashed into being otherwise. So, given that, the fundamental thing is keeping out the negative influences (mostly media and pop “culture”) and trying to find better substitutes.

Finally, the following take on “nature,” an outside-the-box practical recommendation by Balmung, is very good:

One more thing, encourage them to appreciate nature, maybe invite the family along on camping trips? At the risk of sounding new age, children who are immersed in nature can be partially immunized to mass society lies.

We camp every year, getting together with three other families with children of similar age to ours. Not many kids today know the experience of waking up to a massive thunderstorm in the middle of the night with lighting flashes searing through the tent, rain pounding, and thunder rumbling like you’ll never hear it rumble from inside a suburban home. And startled but reassured that mom and dad aren’t afraid, calmly listening to the sounds of the storm.

In addition to camping, there is gardening, as well as 4H clubs where kids work with farm animals. Spend weekends at farm bed & breakfasts or if you are lucky enough to have family out in the country, let your daughter stay with them regularly.

5. Listen to Your Child 

Stated briefly: listen to your kid. She wants to tell you exciting things that are not related to Greek myths or identitarian struggles. Don’t lose sight of that. She is not an empty vessel for you to fill but an active little brain that concocts wild stories she wants you to hear about. Talk with her, ask her questions about her imaginary worlds. When you actively listen, she bonds with you and learns to trust you. If you shut her out (you may not even realize you are doing that), she will grow to find you remote at best, indifferent to her well-being at worst.

6. My Own Advice to Whorefinder

Finally, I offered my own impromptu response to Whorefinder in that comment thread as follows, with minor revisions here:

As an uncle, there is not much you can do directly. Do you have a good relationship with the father and can talk with him candidly? I’d so, broach the subject with him.

It really all hinges on him. Immaterially, if the girls respect him, he is near-clear of mudsharking risk. He also has to imbue them with a positive identity so that the girls value who they are, rather than seeing themselves as lower-case whites who seek an identity among Others.

Materially, he needs to keep them away from unchecked influence of pop culture and public schools. No TV at home. Do all he can to give them good peer groups.

As an uncle, you can subtly tool “lifestyle losers” in age-appropriate ways. Also, foster in them a sense that they have a protective extended family (you).

7. Closing Words and Coda

Miscegenation brought about by the daughter’s lack of strong cultural identity doesn’t just lead to an existential abyss of having grandchildren who look nothing like you, sired by a male who despises you, and who grow up to regard you with contempt. It also brings on the soul-killing sadness of watching your adult daughter degenerate in a thousand little ways, reminding you of your failure every time she hits you up for money, this time because she can’t pay her car registration renewal stickers.

Rejection of one’s race or culture is also not limited to mixing with blacks. You may recall news from April 2014 about two pretty Bosnian teenage girls residing in Austria running off to Syria to join ISIS. One of them, the 17-year-old Samra Kesinovic, is now believed to have been beaten to death while attempting to flee her new comrades.

If you are a father or another relative of a young White girl, the odds that she stays true to her race are still on your side. Psychologically healthy White people are drawn to other Whites. Intermarriage rates for White women are miniscule and according to the OK Cupid study from a few years ago — and anecdotal evidence — so is interracial dating among attractive, smart young White women.

All that said, sometimes there’s not a damn thing you can do. She could be a congenital headcase, or she can baloon up to monstrous obesity despite your best efforts, and end up a mudshark. But you greatly improve your odds of her having White children and living with dignity if you as a father, or to a limited extent as another male relative, are a central part of her life during her most impressionable years.

Three generations ago, fathers could afford to be remote protectors and providers because robust faith, extended family, and community were there to nurture a child’s identity and sense of purpose. But we are now atomized and under cultural and demographic assault on all fronts. The modern White father can no longer be uninvolved in his daughter’s emotional and intellectual development. He is the only thing that stands between her and the malevolent, child-destroying maw of moloch America.

All your life all you asked
When is your Daddy gonna talk to you
But we’re living in another world
Tryin’ to get your message through

No one heard a single word you said
They should have seen it in your eyes
What was going around your head

Oh, she’s a little runaway
Daddy’s girl learned fast
All those things she couldn’t say
Ooh, she’s a little runaway

You know she likes the lights
At night on the neon Broadway signs
And she don’t really mind
Its only love she hoped to find

– Bon Jovi, “Little Runaway”

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70 thoughts on “How To Help Prevent Mudsharking

  1. To the victor goes the spoils

    We can’t live in this environment. We created this nice space, but now we can’t live in it.

    The whole thing is that people, young men in particular, have to kill, to have any confidence. Yeah that is fucked-up, and the essence of our irresolvable nature.

    Religion is no salve. We are animals and we are going to die. That is meant to be a joke. It’s not funny. The time for jokes is long past due.

    There was a time once, when we could be funny
    Death requires of us all
    Cliches abound

  2. You all who have children? you have a different perspective.

    I went down to the Mosque, and asked what i had to do. They said, get that booze off your breath.

    I want to be part of the winning side.

  3. Sorry for shit posting. CH has me on mod.

    Realistically though let’s talk.

    You can’t participate in this world without a woman. It’s so lonely and alone.

  4. tagging on the idea that you should introduce your niece or daughter to enjoy the outdoors, take it a step further and get her to love hunting. Non whites just don’t hunt in most areas, and she will only live and respect a man who does. Of course, the kind of dad who teaches his daughter to hunt will naturally tick off most of the other boxes as well.

  5. Hey, P.A.,
    You forgot the biggest caution for any and all future ‘mudsharks’:

    You might create outlier mocha-toned progeny with high verbal IQ who find themselves curiously compelled to post at alt-right and white race realist websites.

    The horrors! Perish the thought! lollz

  6. “At your public libraries, look for books published before 2000 or so. Newer books will be infused with politically correct revisionism and illustrations will invariably juxtapose characters of different races, including the ubiquitous White girl with a Black boy.”

    Government has banned older childrens’ books under the guise of lead poisoning. Sample article below:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/23/AR2009032301764.html

  7. Government has banned older childrens’ books under the guise of lead poisoning. Sample article below:

    so you think the lead-paint concern is solely a ruse to obscure it’s ‘real’ intent? I mean, most of those books are available as reprints….. (the photo used in the story link conjured old memories when i saw a copy of the Hardy Boys series in the pic, a series I read a lot of).

  8. …..during WW2,the jehovahs witnesses were found to be the group most unresponsive to brainwashing….only because their own(jw) leaders had employed far stronger brainwashing themselves by tying all their teachings to ‘loyalty to God’….and today,regardless of evidence to the contrary,them lot still stick it out with the cult……this is the amount of hold the importance of one’s ancestral heritage should have on a young mind….

  9. Nikcrit: “You might create outlier mocha-toned progeny with high verbal IQ who find themselves curiously compelled to post at alt-right and white race realist websites.”

    Yes, who will promptly try to undermine racial cohesion among whites, as you just attempted with your post. Sorry Nik, but no dice, and no mudsharking.

  10. I remember a Horace podcast where he was saying the whole Mandingo propaganda hasn’t been working, that most White women aren’t going to go African because, well, they wouldn’t want to live in Africa. The statistics and science show that women have racial loyalty in deeds if not in words, whereas men don’t really care. So the next thing they’re going to be pushing is the whole AF/WM yellow fever. Which is less disgusting, but still.

    Makes a nahtzee like me wanna vacation in Thailand or Korea. Whoops.

    I think considering the demographic changes forthcoming in North America this will be a much bigger thing soon. It will also add a cohort of women to Nationalism.

  11. Yes, who will promptly try to undermine racial cohesion among whites, as you just attempted with your post.

    Trainspotter, are you really that humorless? Or was that a joke?

    Sorry Nik, but…… no mudsharking.

    Shucks! Ok, if you say so.,,

    Happy Thanksgiving, Trainspotter —— and the reset of y’all…

  12. Yes it is Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is a great authentic tradition, “uniquely American” (as goes the cliche) and one that we could be proud of.

    I don’t know how it actually went down, in Jamestown, or Charleston, or Florida or wherever it was. A long ass time ago. 400 years of terrible exploitation and suffering, and the noble black man was in chains and whipped for sport because that is just how we do! yee-haw gonna have ourselves a good one!

    Wikipedia informs, and i quote, that “Pumpkin pie is commonly served on and around Thanksgiving in North America.” Well isn’t that something. So they make pumpkins out of pies, and that is the tradition. In order to assimilate to this country it would behoove the newly beloved immigrants to adopt the local customs and traditions, and perhaps there would be worse places to start.

    I have also noticed, and this is not so much a cliche as a well worn observation, that with the passing of the years, the descent into “middle middle-aged obscurity obsolescence and old-fashioned usefullessness” that yea verily the holidays are depressing. Just sad.

    Without going into my own sadness and disappointment about the shape of things, i take some solace in knowing that that malaise and its particular low point in November and December, is a not un-common experience. Certainly it is partly just seasonal, but somehow the poetic metaphors that get inevitably suggested can be a bit too obvious – if you know what i mean.

    But what i am getting at, and i think this is how it is in many broken homes and shattered households throughout the Land, that families are struggling and falling apart and failing and flailing, and it requires some degree of comport simply to enjoy the food. But these familial struggles want the larger context of social decay and civilizational decline, which context is often particularly expressed with alcohol abuse disorder.

    Interestingly, Thanksgiving is one of the four holidays that the retail stores close down for, including the liquor store, and so old timers know to stock up in advance. But that shutting down of the commercial scene is another tick tock on the clock of despair. As flawed and lacking as the commercial culture is, it is a distraction, and it keeps up the illusion that we are going somewhere. And when it shuts down and closes up, and then these little lonely old rows of houses.

    I know this is a little bit melodramatic, and lugubrious, but forward on soldiers. Say so in March, in times of plenty, in times of want, forward on and march. The winter too, a witches brew, dark times and lonely days on the couch with the dog. Don’t masterbate anymore, restore the last semblance and vigor and glory, before, … before it’s over and the door is shut down for further opportunities to create and enjoy.

  13. Suburban_elk,

    Whatever you are going through right now, your poetic streak is reaching me. I feel your despair as well as my own and it makes me feel less alone. And I get the need to drink the despair away for a little while sometimes just to get a break from it.

    You can make it in life without a woman. I have for many years. Many of the greatest men of our race, like Tesla and Nietzsche, went it alone, but their legacy will never die. A woman can’t really be with you, it can only tag along. And as per Briffault’s Law it will always abandon you when you no longer benefit it as it is programmed to do to ensure the survival of our race. It’s not capable of loving you unconditionally, like your mother did. If it did our race would surely die.

    Having a woman doesn’t make you less alone, because you always have to maintain frame around it, and you can never reveal weakness. You always have to keep it at arms length. That means you will never have any solace even in your own home. Modern women are no longer capable of loving us as we are no longer able to rule them. But in mourning what has been taken from us, remember it could always be worse. Until the time of vengeance, celebrate your freedom.

  14. So back on topic….

    I don’t know how to prevent White girls from mudsharking in an age where their dads are castrated by the state and powerless.
    I just don’t know.

    I have a little cousin who went mudsharking [i]young[/i] after my aunt ejected the dad from his home when she was a baby and lived off his earnings without working for her daughters’ entire young lives. And it’s really, really sad because she’s breathtakingly gorgeous. She was the shy, innocent, quiet type who everyone thought was a perfect Christian princess. The mom (my aunt) is a self-righteous, stuck-up, devoted Churchian who is very judgemental of other people and I friggin’ hate her. She always looked down on me and talked down to me when I was a child growing up. But I figured the very least that someone like that would raise her beautiful daughters not to take a dump in our gene pool. What a worthless piece of garbage that she’s so useless she couldn’t even do that.

    Without White fathers in the home it’s pretty much hopeless.

    I have a good friend with a beautiful White daughter growing up in a city which is now almost as brown as India. The only thing I could think of was that he needs to learn game to maintain a good frame, but he’s so blue pill I couldn’t get through to him. He’s not as smart as me and we grew apart in life.

    Now that he’s been ejected by the mom and living in a different city, I’m terrified for this little girl. She’s this lovely blonde jewel who was brain damaged by a rare illness and became physically and mentally disabled. Very, very pretty and very, very vulnerable. Now she’s going to be this gorgeous retarded White girl with a limp going to high school in a class that’s maybe 5-10% White, and no dad around. She is going to have the living fuck raped out of her repeatedly in the high school bathroom by mobs of little brown shits, and both of her parent’s are too brainwashed with PC bullcrap to see this coming. He used to be this big anti-racist until actually living in brown town for a decade, and now he’s a bit more tolerant to my rayciss ideas, but I know that if he ends up with brown grandchildren he’ll rationalize it as being okay. Damn it.

    One of the good things is that White girl fascination with “diverse” dick is a feature of girls who grew up in a very White environment. Like my little cousin. “Anti-racist” delusions are dependent on safe White communities to spawn them. Surprise, multiculturalism causes “racism”.

  15. I’m so white I sunburn at night…but I’m the firstborn of an immigrant family and never acclimatized to Thanksgiving staples pumpkin and sweet potatoes. My mom and dad dutifully tried them but we all agreed, not for us. I take your point though about how the newcomers they are determined we must have could do worse than to, you know, try to fit in and accept our ways.

  16. Suburban Elk: “I want to be part of the winning side.”

    That one-liner about the mosque and alcohol breath was genius. Cuckservatives and Churchians wept. As to the winning side… do you believe that you have an immortal soul that goes to its destination after your physical death? I believe that heaven is real. And so is hell. If you’re curious, do some reading on near-death experiences involving terror and dread.

    Suburban Elk: “You can’t participate in this world without a woman. It’s so lonely and alone.”

    I let a friend of mine read that comment this past Wednesday night. We were out at a brew pub to talk. He and I go way back to middle school. Now in our mid-forties. Sharp son of a bitch who calls me out on whitewash and intellectual laziness. He never married, never dated much either. I asked him (we were both buzzing on our second round of west coast-style IPAs) “what do you think of this Elk guy?” He settled back with some amount of satisfaction and said “he doesn’t appreciate his freedom.” I pushed a little “people get lonely though.” He said, “I am a womanless loser, yet we’re having a great time right now.” He reminded me of the fact that he secures female company on his own terms, if you get my drift.

    He then added “look at our mutual friend XXX. If not for his kids, he’d have every reason in the world to hang himself, with that wife of his.”

    Nikcrit: “You might create outlier mocha-toned progeny with high verbal IQ who find themselves curiously compelled to post at alt-right and white race realist websites.”

    You are a niche of one. That is not entirely a bad thing. By the way, I thought of you as I wrote the sentence that begins with “fifty years ago…”

    Markpower49M: “Threaten to put them in foster care if they mudshark.”

    This post was about pre-teen daughters. I just added a short statement to clarify that near the beginning. You are right — when dealing with sexually mature girls, hard methods have their place.

    Trainspotter: Hey man, I sincerely appreciate your Twitter links. Sends nice volumes of traffic my way. Your comments at CH have been among the best there.

    Heretic Phi: “the whole Mandingo propaganda hasn’t been working […] So the next thing they’re going to be pushing is the whole AF/WM yellow fever.”

    That was an interesting comment in its entirety. A little anecdote… I spent a year in an East Asian country when I was in the military. I enjoyed the sight of local women, who were elegant and very pretty. But after several months there, I started feeling something I would describe as sensory deprivation. A thirst for simply seeing and talking to a pretty White woman.

    Suburban Elk: “… before it’s over and the door is shut down for further opportunities to create and enjoy.”

    Some of your comments are made for a glass of strong choice poison in hand and the quiet leisure to read them over several times. Something you said under my previous post, about “being.” Reminds me of a scene from Kieslowski’s “Red.” A lovely young woman wants to help her heroin-addicted younger brother (?) and asks her new-found mentor, a jaded retired judge what she can do. He tells her “just be.”

    You sure you don’t have Slavic in you?

  17. PA, we all admire Slavs now. I have no Slavic background. There is very little in my family tree that is unknown.

    But they are immunized to the bullshit. And it’s all funny how true it is, the men are street tough and the women the best looking. If it sounds like i’m trying to suck your dick? no, them are the facts, and we know it.

    Also interesting is how the men have their own Well Known Problems. Should i even try and describe, or will that be disrespectful? Alcohol abuse, nihilism, … both of which flip and trascribble into forgetfulness and philosophy and brilliance.

    Great Russians are sort of the sweet medium. And the rest of the Slavs, well they got their plusses too. The best looking women in the world, are not Russian, they are Southwest Slavs, amiright? No offense to the Poles – they are also top notch.

    I have no Slavic background, the closest i get is Central European, and very little at that. My verbal iq and susceptibility to alcohol is typical Irish.

  18. re: “fifty years ago, a white woman…”

    I realize you were being none-too-serious there, and just politely acknowledging a string of commenters, but one point I’d like to make is touched upon by your light remark:

    It’s sometimes quite easy to overlook, but interrracial relationships prior to, say, 1965, even BM-WF liasons and marriages were quite different than what you’d see both today and even thirty or so years ago; when my folks met at semi-rural Big-10 university in the early ’60s, they had come, respectively, one from a small rural town and the other from the midwest’s biggest urban center, having damn-near never had any real interaction with someone from another race—– and there wasn’t some pre-existing body of interaction that could by proxy be accessed, like there would be today in a nanosecond…

    To cut it short, my point is that both my mother and father are probably nothing whatsoever like what it might be reaosonable to presume to someone today considering ‘the type’ to marry interracially.

    I mean, perhaps this fact cuts things to the point even more quickly: my mother wasn’t old enough to vote in a presidential election until 1968; one of her big political regrets is that she didn’t get to pull the lever for Barry Goldwater in 1964. Really.

  19. I can talk about myself forever, … just make it humorful and relevant.

    My background is not perfect Old American, it’s not perfect Nordic. But it’s still pretty good White.

    All that matters is what you can do, creatively. Musically, or in poems, or in just this lame-ass blog format. Whatcha gonna do, kid?

    I have tried to say it before, … Write for me. Make comments as if they matter.

    Let’s pretend that this all matters. Live your life as if it matters.

  20. My verbal iq and susceptibility to alcohol is typical Irish. — sub_elk

    I have a lot of my maternal heritage in the Twin Cities and points north of there; and from your earliest comments at gl piggy, your commenting voice strongly summoned certain relatives of mine and there friends. I would’ve bet with certainty that you came from Swedish or at least some sort-of Scandinavian roots of middle-to-upper-middle-class stature; e.g., your tendency in moments to eloquently wallow and lament in existential precariousness comes only from those with a relatively high economic baseline; so: you sure you’re not the son of, say, prominent orthodontists living in the suburbs of Hibbing? lolzz…

  21. “I realize you were being none-too-serious there, and just politely acknowledging a string of commenters”

    No need for that defensive preempting. I meant what I wrote to you. I didn’t reply to every comment, even if I liked some of the ones I didn’t reply to. For example, the one about old children’s books being pulled of library shelves got me doing some reading on the subject. Tons of great comments in the Lennon thread (yours among them) that I had nothing to say to in acknowledgment.

    Sometimes you have something to say in response to a commenter, sometimes you don’t. One of the tricks to blogging, as I am learning, is to keep it fun. Don’t make yourself feel obligated to do anything other than writing what you want to write about.

  22. “Sometimes you have something to say in response to a commenter, sometimes you don’t. One of the tricks to blogging, as I am learning, is to keep it fun.”

    Yeah I reply to a blog post when I have something to say, not when I like the post just to take up space. But my vanity likes being responded to.

    I have stuff to say here cuz it’s a smaller crowd despite being high quality. Yay me for getting in on it when it was new. If I can’t find the time to read everyone else’s 476 comments on a Heartiste post then mine aren’t going to be read either. How the hell do people find the time?

    Y’all seem to know each other from other blogs. I never followed Lil’ Piggy.

    You know there are a lot of neat blogs I can’t get in anymore because they’re “private” now. GL Piggy is, and Mangan’s. But there used to be one I rather liked called “Mindweapons in Ragnarok” or something.

  23. Nikcrit: [i]”To cut it short, my point is that both my mother and father are probably nothing whatsoever like what it might be reaosonable to presume to someone today considering ‘the type’ to marry interracially.”[/i]

    Dude, how do I get italics to work around here?

    Would they’d kick me out of the Nationalist club if I admitted I would have been the type? 50-60 years ago before our race was under obvious threat of extinction, yeah. But it’s different now. It’s not individuals striking out on a novel reproductive frontier any more. It’s not a natural grassroots genetic migration between peoples anymore. It’s being engineered from the top down to destroy nations, and I can see it. Why can’t everyone see it?

  24. Dude, how do I get italics to work around here?

    Use the ‘greater-than’ and ‘lesser-than’ symbols, aka ‘the flying V symbols,” instead of the brackets that you chose to use..

  25. My family instills a sense of disgust toward non Whites and a guarantee they are on their own if they damage the family name

    When I was in high school in the mid- late 80’s we had one White chick step out of line. Her and her pet pavement ape got a beat down. Mission accomplished, no more of that

    Old School but so far 100% success rate.

  26. “The Father must be a psychologically strong man who knows who he is and where he comes from…This is the foundation on which everything else rests.”

    Despite being gay I have 2 nieces and I don’t know if my brother in law is man enough to handle me emailing him the article. When I told my sister and him that I believed in equality until I meet enough blacks in real life to outweigh any Morgan Freeman movie, I think they just had cognitive dissonance remove it from their memories. They are the type of people that think Mike Brown beating up a liquor store clerk with all of the “hands up” witnesses participating on video has no relation to him being gentle or being shot by a cop 10 min later.

    My sister still thinks 3rd world muslims being imported via US taxdollars and put on welfare as refugees can be vetted even after the Jihadette in San Bernardino had posted social media promising war against infidels before she got her visa. Despite being an actuary, she supports Bernie “Jewish Bolshevik” Sanders, but perhaps her company benefits from crony corruption. Even harder to believe is that she believes in magic dirt, that if a black boy was born in a rice paddy he would have the same odds of getting a perfect math SAT as an Asian boy. I fully accept that there are 9 members of 57,000 member US MENSA (that could sneak into a kkk rally if they kept out of the sun like Spokane’s NAACP leader), but realize only 15% of US blacks has an IQ of 100 or higher.

    Is there any advice you could give for my situation as it seems like every commercial on TV shows mudsharks and smart blacks? The smartest black I ever meet was a black nursing supervisor that was so stupid she couldn’t even understand cause and effect. It was probably a good thing as when I left the army I reported how to find fraud by comparing 3 different records, and it turned out the Inspector General went wild with it, as all military hospitals use the same form. Since non Asian minorities are affected worse by everything I may have done more to alter the numbers of black/brown nurses in the US than top 100 SJWs.There is a mudshark named Kim they are related to that doesn’t live that far from them, who has all the typical mudshark problems.

  27. Hey Steve, you and Nate are my favorite commenters over at Vox Day’s. Good to see you here. I also deal with a blood relative who suffers from extreme leftie cognitive disonance. In her case, it’s a “mean girls” arrogance, masculine intelligence with the boneheadedness of a sheltered pretty bitch, and propensity for Jon Stewardeaque snark. We get along great as long as politics are not discussed.

    As to your position with your nieces, all I’d add to my original post is that (a) you won’t convert your BIL; only life itself, and nothing else, can do that; (b) the girls will be fine, most likely…. they will drift with the culture’s dominant ethos, and who knows where that’ll drift in the next decade; (c) if they are in an at-risk (for mudsharking) peer group, offer to help pay for private or Catholic school for them if you can.

  28. The first step is to launch a meme slandering all “white fathers” tolerant of their daughters’ total rejection and contempt. We know that deracination is PATHOLOGICAL and the attempting to deracinate white male is the attempt to make him sick and very ill in mind. We know that the mass media and their minions in the virtual masses focus on single black mother and savage nigger son…. BUT ONLY TO COVER UP the far more degenerate relationship between “black father” and his black daughter for between the two is a mutual desire for radical sexual autonomy…. Ergo, within the radical “black” collective is the near universal teaching of black daughters by their “black fathers” that miscegenation IS GOOD!!! The pathology is only exacerbated by the logical consequence of such a “belief.” Radical sexual autonomy for the black daughter equals miscegenating with white Supremacy to the benefit of a “black father” that now possesses the rationale to “liberate” from “white supremacy” by any means necessary. It’s a grotesque and vicious cycle that the modern “white father” now emulates and imitates with his white daughter….

    The simple fact is that a white father rejects mudsharking because ultimately he ALONE is the one most responsible for controlling and guiding the sexual selection of his progeny…. And it matters not one wit the extent of the opposing forces….

    Deracination is pathology TO WHOMEVER practices it… Mudsharking is just a name for a particular type of pathology involving a white/black symbiotic regression… All participants seeking to ultimately “liberate” from white Supremacy. USING their miscegenating daughters as the human sacrifice.

  29. Don’t kid yourself, Nikcrit has been genetically triggered to white Supremacy. His mulatto Self has actually been a carefully crafted frame prohibiting him from literally seeing HIS black and HIS white as two very distinct “things.” Only the genuine white Supremacist IS ABLE TO trigger him per his HBD axioms. He’s been triggered. It’s why he runs in these circles. His conversion will be an arduous one. But cast his lot he will at one point or another his meticulously crafted mulatto identity NOT-with-standing amongst either radicals or white Supremacists.

  30. @Thordaddy,
    Ok, Thor; I’m going to just fall on my sword when it comes to trying to understand you..

    But wtf, here’s one for the road:

    Are you saying in your last sentence of your last comment that eventually a either/or choice is demanded of any and all halfricans?

  31. Thordaddy,
    I remember now what i wanted to ask you a while back when we weren’t frequenting the same blogs: though it’s somewhat old news now, what’s your take on Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner transformation? The ultimate act of white self-annihilation?

    And could even you somehow fall victim to this insidious meme and cultural indoctrination? Could you actually someday find yourself using the avatar “Thormama” at some point?

    (just joking, on that last bit, but seriously, what did you make of that highly mediated and ceremonious act of self-annihilation?)

  32. Nikcrit…

    Yes… YOU HAVE, overtime, so sufficiently immersed yourself in the milieu of white Supremacy, such that due your mulatto origin, you will now be compelled towards either genuine white Supremacy or absolute submission to the zeitgeist. You, after all these years, have really come to the conclusion that things at this stage are really white and black ESPECIALLY for the high IQ mulatto.

  33. Nikcrit…. As for Caitlyn Bruce? What further evidence does one need to recognize the dominance of radical autonomy…. The sickness of anti-white Supremacy…. The degeneracy of a critical mass and the absolute non-eliteness of our “default elite?”

    The problem that really vexes the high IQ “white” male is his concrete contributions to further manifestations of radical autonomy. In other words, by highlighting the phenomenon of radical autonomy, one is provoking others into real acts of increasing degeneracy…. So although I perceived and then felt compelled to make this phenomenon of radical autonomy known, I intentionally refrained from feeding the masses visions of future acts of radical autonomy and descending degeneracy. It’s a fine line and Caitlyn Bruce is the “apex,” but still not the most degenerate act of TOTAL self-annihilation…. It needs to off itself to reach that conclusion. And therein lies the moral dilemma for the genuine white Supremacist? Should “we” facilitate the self-annihilation of the masses for the benefit of a small minority desirous of A Land of white Supremacy?

  34. As a black women who dates white women (and Black and Asian women) on the regular, I find this article hilarious. And entertaining. Keep up the good work 🙂

  35. thor,
    I actuallycomprehended most of your caitlyn bruce comment above; fwiw, that ‘in other words’ clause you included this time was quite helpful….my question though is: if caitlyn is an apex but yet not the ‘ultimate’ act of self-annihilation because s/he doesn’t ‘off’ her/his self, do you mean ‘off’ as in literal self-annihilation, aka ‘suicide?’

  36. Nikcrit….

    How come everyone can so easily observe the growing degeneracy and simultaneously have no conception of its “antithesis?”

    What’s the antithesis to total degeneracy IF NOT objective Supremacy?

    Suicide isn’t politically motivated in the general sense…. Self-annihilation, on the other hand, is an ideologically-induced annihilation of the Self logically terminating at Final Liberation.

    The whole Caitlyn Bruce mentality is that one loves their Self because they hate the world and if they were to love the world then they must certainly hate themselves…. So it’s a degenerate mindset through and through culminating in its own inevitable self-destruction.

  37. yeah, i don’t disagree with tat assessment; to me, ‘caitlyn’ is hte logical endgame of 21st-century vainglorious self-absorption and narcissism.

  38. “How come everyone can so easily observe the growing degeneracy and simultaneously have no conception of its “antithesis?”…..What’s the antithesis to total degeneracy IF NOT objective Supremacy?”

    OK, this is clear to me; I see how this ties into your earlier comments and mantras, clearly now..thank you!

    Given i’m reading you correctly now, my question would be: why is that supreme ‘antithesis’ a singularly ‘white’ entity? Why not my halfrican ubermensch? there’s no clear racial component integral to a self-annihilating antithesis, no? You yourself have laid the groundwork for an antithesis to the radical autonomy —— and there’s no clear racial necessity to that antithesis.

    thus, i can only conclude that you’re doing what many do at alt-right comment strings: sublimating your PERSONAL aesthetic distaste into false theoretical doctrine; why not just own your aesthetic distaste for ‘blacks’ or whatever ‘other’ you recoil from —– but don’t rationalize it by trying to cram it into some pseudo-theoretical social doctrine?

  39. Nikcrit…

    Of course, you are “right” where you operate within the relativist paradigm and wrong where you MUST operate in the absolute instance.

    WHY NOT a “halfrican” superman? INDEED! Why not? Well, because YOU don’t believe in “superman” in the FIRST PLACE….

    And indeed, one’s race is no insurmountable obstacle to one rejecting degeneracy absolutely…. But this is also not equal to then striving towards Supremacy…. Which then one’s race may serve AS CATALYST for this very endeavor. And as LIFE EXPERICENCE has shown you and told you in ubiquitous ways and means, ONLY “white supremacy” stands as that force for global “inequality,” ie., the falsification of “universal equality.”

    So again, psychologically, it would be an incredibly bold step for Nikcrit, the “halfrican,” to claim himself a Supremacist…. To claim himself a believer in objective Supremacy…. One who rejects denegeracy absolutely…. One who denies “universal equality” and recognizes that a singularity that could be cannot be in such a dastardly “universal equality” that simply reduces to a multiverse of total redundancy.

    You are yet to put your mind at the level of the 140+ high IQ “white” nerd who is literally in real time, open source fashion, crafting the Narrative that hundreds of millions of people follow…. The essence of this Narrative is anti-white Supremacy…. Against the greatest white spiritual warriors leading the charge…. In the West, it’s inconceivable in any other manner. The true war is amongst high IQ “white” liberationists and a remnant of residual genuine white Supremacy….. So, in fact, it is a head divided…. A continuation of the Civil war…. A perpetuating self-annihilation…. And it’s ALL ROOTED in the First Law of Liberation:

    Supremacy = degeneracy….

    If YOU BELIEVE THIS ^^^ then you would show yourself to be a self-annihilator and enemy of civilization….

    AND it is, in fact, THE RACIAL DISCOURSE that you engage to hide your belief in the FLOB “equal to” those “racist” anti-white Supremacists of the alt-RITE.

  40. A healthy-minded white man is repulsed by mudsharking because he is repulsed by pathology…. The aim of the liberationist is to pervert reality such that mudsharking is, IN FACT, a “good thing.” Of course, this all breaks down when one comes to the logical conclusion that the “black father” MUST EMBRACE his black daughter’s intimate relationship to “white supremacy…” That such is the ONLY conclusion is thus the end result of a belief in and desire for radical sexual autonomy not just for his “daughter,” but ULTIMATELY for himself AT THE EXPENSE of his “daughter….” And It is here that one can “see” the inherent pathology in an ideologically-induced push to mudshark. One can “see” that a “white father” that embraces a pathological sexual orientation and justifies it by embracing that same pathology in his “daughter” is just plain PATHOLOGICAL… Tolerance of miscegenation ESPECIALLY under the perceived coercion of mob force IS COLLECTIVE PATHOLOGY… The ONLY ANTIDOTE is the healthy mind of the wS and the principled rejection of radical (sexual) autonomy that the “white” masses have clearly embraced to their own destruction.

  41. The dialectic is thus:

    Is mudsharking good, ie., optimal, ascendant, PERPETUATING?

    Is mudsharking bad, ie., pathological, suboptimal, self-annihilating?

    The radical autonomist NEEDS TO EXTRICATE HIMSELF from this dualistic paradigm…. He has no
    intentions of remaining within this miscegenating/anti-miscegenating synthesis BECAUSE HE POSSESSES NO PRINCIPLE that then doesn’t reduce to desire for radical sexual autonomy (he MUST EMBRACE mudsharking per ideological inducement)…. And so “mudsharking” is “good” when “whites” engage it (so as to war by proxy against those that chip away at his sexual desires) and would be bad if black female engaged with “white supremacy” (thus legitimating the very “entity” he subconsciously seek to annihilate due a strict sexual tradition).

  42. This is the point in which you lost me:

    One who denies “universal equality” and recognizes that a singularity that could be cannot be in such a dastardly “universal equality” that simply reduces to a multiverse of total redundancy.

  43. Nikcrit….

    Universal equality = predictable mass = redundant phenomenon = anti-Singularity = secular “metaphysical” assumption…

  44. “Against the greatest white spiritual warriors leading the charge…. In the West, it’s inconceivable in any other manner. The true war is amongst high IQ “white” liberationists and a remnant of residual genuine white Supremacy….. So, in fact, it is a head divided…. A continuation of the Civil war…. A perpetuating self-annihilation…. And it’s ALL ROOTED in the First Law of Liberation:Supremacy = degeneracy….If YOU BELIEVE THIS ^^^ then you would show yourself to be a self-annihilator and enemy of civilization….”

    So, given this paradigm as true, what are the possibilities for the halfrican? Is self-perpetuating grace a possibiilty? Or is he destined to be a sacrificial cog in the social reality you propose above? (not that i agree with the ‘givens’ here; nor do i feel your supremacy-vs-self-annihilation mantra theoretically MUST have a racial component; in fact, the ‘halfrican ubermensch’ rhetorical device i created to make some points in replies to your comments is more feasible and prime a trope for supremacy than is your beleaguered ‘white man.’)

  45. “Against the greatest white spiritual warriors leading the charge…. In the West, it’s inconceivable in any other manner. The true war is amongst high IQ “white” liberationists and a remnant of residual genuine white Supremacy….. So, in fact, it is a head divided…. A continuation of the Civil war…. A perpetuating self-annihilation…. And it’s ALL ROOTED in the First Law of Liberation:

    Supremacy = degeneracy….”

    This here i can somewhat wrap my head around and work with; perhaps those ‘high IQ white liberationists’ aren’t merely battling that disappearing residue of genuine white supremacy but searching for a ethos while battling what they believe is a lingering enemy? maybe the liberationists aren’t as self-defined as you’ve presumed?: i’m literally suggesting that’s possible; not presuming it’s true.

    anyhow, it’s a tad early to be this meta on matters; perhaps i can resume deliberations here after my beloved Green Bay Packers dispose of the Arizona Cardinals….. btw, the 1960’s-era Packers truly symbolized athletic white supremacism, no? lolzzz!

  46. Nikcrit….

    My advice to you is not an attempt to create some “halfrican supremacy” out of the milieu of your radically autonomous origin, but simply resolve yourself to a concept of white Supremacy IN THE ABSOLUTE SENSE. My mantra is no personal solution to collective descent… No “men’s” movement, only man’s movement… You know this “thing” referred to as “white supremacy,” but you ONLY KNOW “IT” as a purposely degraded caricature… A “thing” that is real bad when it benefits the radical liberal and mockingly unreal when it benefits the radical liberal… A “thing” you learned AS ITS antithesis such that “white supremacy” equals white degeneracy… A swamp “thing” that you MUST NOW STEP OUT OF or the mask is completely off. It is in the nature of radical autonomy that The Litmus Test for all “white” males going forward is wS or anti-wS? And it is in the very nature of your ideologically-motivated origin that The Limtus Test ESPECIALLY applies to the “halfrican” where the presumption of “ally” must certainly be lost to both whites and all others.

    PS FLOB = First Law of Liberation…

  47. Nikcrit….

    At the top, where a “default elite” manifested by a quasi-bounded entity of perpetuating self-annihilators, “we” find the mechanisms for a “universal equality.” In the most primitive sense, it’s jocks versus nerds with all the “others” playing their scripted parts in the Narrative. It’s “white supremacy” versus “radical autonomy.” It’s white man’s physical self versus white man’s mental self. It’s the Alpha versus Omega…. It’s the guy that got all the girls versus the guy who had all the brains and real love for her…. But ultimately, both sides are one in their lack of spiritual capital and anti-Supremacy ethos…. Both sides ultimately desire radical sexual autonomy AND STAND TOGETHER as anti-white Supremacists. And then “we” see that these are, in fact, the mechanisms of self-annihilation in the West…. THIS IS THE NARRATIVE and its simplified mechanics…. Desire for radical sexual autonomy and hatred for white Supremacy EQUALS a mass of self-annihilators and a clean-handed “default elite.” This is The Program…. The “matrix.” IT IS RATHER PRIMITIVE when one cuts it to the bone.

  48. Nikcrit….

    In a post-Christian, post-Liberation society…. A radically autonomous society…. Your family and friends are your enemies. Mudsharking is also “good.” So in fact, your enemies tell you what is “good” about mudsharking. So in the end, friends and family lead you to destruction. This is the nature of a radically autonomous society.

  49. Moving to the country did wonders to remove us from the shitholes otherwise known as urban and suburban America.

    You know what else is helpful? Rural Catholic schools. From top to bottom, everyone looks the same. Priest. Faculty. Staff. Students. Parents. It is a veritable blizzard, and it is glorious. Hell, many of the teachers at the public school send their kids to the Catholic school, and for good reason. ¿Comprende, amigo?

    We have 10 acres of woods filled with glorious, dindu-free wonderment. Deer. Turkey. Squirrels. Raccoons. Coyotes. Walking trails.

    And our “neighbors” all tend to be freedom-loving, PC/SJW-hating folks.

  50. The #1 way to keep your white daughter from going black is to be married to her mother and live in the same household with her when she’s in her formative years. That cuts down about 80% of the mudsharking problem, and you don’t even have to do an especially great job of being a father – a middling C+ performance as a father should imbue your daughter with enough class that she won’t be compelled to drop down far below her socioeconomic class. And white women really don’t like to choose mates below their station – but when low-class white women are down in the muck with blacks they are at much greater risk to mudshark.

    I can’t even speculate a number or percentage, but the overwhelming majority of mudsharks I know grew up in a single mother or divorced household, and thus never gained a real idea of what a white male household leader should be. If they had grown up under the influence of the strong white male figure they’d feel naturally and innately repelled by the idea of the black man as a mate. (of course, there’d still be some exceptions)

    And I’ve lived in several places that are ground zero for the increase in BM-WF pairings – southern military towns. I saw an article in USA Today a while back that showed in 3 select military towns in GA, SC and NC that somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-10% of the babies born to white women had a black father.

    BTW, y’all do also know that WM-BF pairings are now approaching up to 1/3 of the total of B-W mixing now? For my part, I can’t possibly see why a white male would be interested in a black chick, but statistics show that WM-BF couples tend to be much more educated and have far higher incomes than BM-WF couples.

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  52. Such an excellent post. Its writing like this that make me feel like I have arrived home. For so many years I felt like I was in the darkness with my own thoughts and view points, but what is written in this blog and others like it could be words from my own soul.

  53. Frank, I appreciate that. This may have been my most important post, in the spirit of “even if it saves just one life…” It’s also my most popular one by readership and web searches; I get a steady stream of visitors to this post every day.

  54. camlost “The #1 way to keep your white daughter from going black is to be married to her mother and live in the same household with her when she’s in her formative years. That cuts down about 80% of the mudsharking problem, and you don’t even have to do an especially great job of being a father – a middling C+ performance as a father should imbue your daughter with enough class that she won’t be compelled to drop down far below her socioeconomic class.”

    Not to be personal, but i’m curious:when you see for a while a woman —– like, say, that 31-year-old blonde woman you mentioned who surprised you with her HBD-inspired comment —– do you consider yourself a ‘miscegenator?’ Or do you make an exception for yellow/white IR? Or, since you ‘don’t look Asian,’ do you consider yourself “white” even though you may draw 50%-50% results during a George Lopez “How Black Are You” segment?

    I think modern genomic research is interesting in that it somewhat alleviates the “does he look black” aspect of racial-caste determination (of which the alt-right fetes with religious-level stature); e.g., on the Lopez show, it was determined that the lighter-hued Charles Barkley contained more Sub-Saharan genes than did Snoop Dogg —– so, what more needs to be said on that matter, eh?

    People used to ask me if i could’ve chosen would i’ve opted to ‘look more’ black or white; I’ve always said it didn’t matter and whatever because by now i’d be comfortable from whatever i would be used to by this point.

    Still, deep in my soul i think there’s a black bias; one of my childhood haunts imagines what it would be to go through life as a biracial like this—–

    https://www.google.com/search?q=mulatto+writer+at+the+new+yorker&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=637&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjay9XvmMTLAhUJQSYKHUPDAHYQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1#tbm=isch&q=malcolm+gladwell&imgrc=NIRL03UV-KHz4M%3A

    ——— it just seems that it would be easier to assimilate being more a ‘black-looking biracial’ than being ‘a white-looking biracial,” Or, what was more common and disparagingly known as a ‘Gray baby.”

  55. I think modern genomic research is interesting in that it somewhat alleviates the “does he look black” aspect of racial-caste determination (of which the alt-right fetes with religious-level stature); e.g., on the Lopez show, it was determined that the lighter-hued Charles Barkley contained more Sub-Saharan genes than did Snoop Dogg —– so, what more needs to be said on that matter, eh?

    Modern genetic research does NOT, to the slightest degree at all, alleviate the need to make value judgments based on phenotype.

    If someone looks weird, they can not produce some results from 23andme and convince anyone of anything.

    **********

    That is the most important point (in this my comment), but also bear in mind that George Lopez and 23andme are extremely political and about as trustworthy as a typical mestizo and jew. Which is to say it can be expected that they are representing their own interests, and only a fool takes what they say without considering them as its source.

  56. I had never heard the term, grey baby. Sounds pretty grim.

    The more familiar, mama’s red-headed stepchild, was reintroduced in the game Grand Theft Auto, as a character level. I vaguely recognized it when made that level which was very low.

    Is mama’s red-headed stepchild a ghetto term, or is it from the South and does it apply to both black and white poor people there?

  57. “Is mama’s red-headed stepchild a ghetto term, or is it from the South and does it apply to both black and white poor people there?”

    I don’t know, though i’m vaguely familiar with the term, or at least it feels familiar…. A cursory Google search didn’t yield anything definitive, either.

    Re. ‘genomic research”: i only referenced the Lopez show because that’s the only popularized use of gene matching that I know of. I wouldn’t attribute moral or political authority to Lopez or the show —- but the genetic matching of ethnicity to particular genes down to a percentage point is scientifically sound and a relatively recent innovation, to the best of my understanding.

    As for your contentions, I’m not sure what you’re saying or arguing; for the most part, HBD believers welcome the genomic revelations of the 21st-century; most of the more objective and scientific-inquiry focused HBD/race-realist/alt-right blogs and websites use the science to vouchproof their social and political convictions.

  58. “If someone looks weird, they can not produce some results from 23andme and convince anyone of anything.”

    Oh, if this in fact was your specific point, i now understand better what you were getting at.

    To wit: I know that if a certain individual ‘looked black,’ he would be deemed, treated and categorized a certain way by those with a white-right perspective; that would be a ‘given’ to me.

    But what I was suggesting is novel is that, nowadays, given genomic science, even someone who looked ‘more white’ or was visually ambiguous in terms of his or her race and ethnicity, could be excluded or included (e.g., validated or invalidated) by sole dint of their new genetic markers….. (the example I cited re. Barkley and Snoop weren’t intended to suggest that one was ethnically up-for-grabs; I know both of those public figures are handily considered ‘black.”)

  59. Nikcrit, you showed Gladwell as an example of an unfortunate case of a very White-looking Mulatto. Wentworth Miller is also biracial but he looks 95% White, and has clearly been dealt better cards. Are you familiar with him?

  60. PA: “Nikcrit, you showed Gladwell as an example of an unfortunate case of a very White-looking Mulatto.”

    I may have worded it as such but that wasn’t exactly my intended contention. I mean, I could summon technical ‘mulattos’ that you would unquestionably take as white.

    But the ‘grey-baby,’ which is usually perceived to be ‘more white-ish,’ one might say, is still racially ambiguous and even notably ‘black’ to many witnesses. I guess the term is simply a more-homely-vs-less-homely mark of misfortune common to interracial progeny, no?

    As for Miller? IDK, he’s handsome and decent looking and more ‘white-looking’ than me or most biracials I know —– but I can’t say I have any longing to appropriate his visage, lolz. Perhaps, in elementary-age childhood, I’d passingly wish I looked ‘more white’ while in certain white social situations, while wanting to be ‘more black’ while down in Birmingham or Atlanta and visiting my paternal relatives—- but to quote Wallace Thurman, “I y’am what I y’am” and by my lights the matter’s long been settled at this point.

    Besides, to borrow another old black folk expression, in terms of the lord and securing my place above in the eternal, “Alls I gots to do is stay black and die.” …..

  61. but I can’t say I have any longing to appropriate his visage

    Miller has the flinty Clint Eastwood thing going.

    In real life, i would recognize him as part black.

    Back in a community class i took about ten years ago, i remarked to another student, an acquaintance, that our instructor was part black, and this acquaintance was like, no way. I said yeah, and acquaintance was like, i’ll ask him, and i was like, uh, maybe you shouldn’t.

    That acquaintance was a bit spergy, obviously. Asking an instructor who is not a friend, are you part black? … how white can you get. If i recall correctly the instructor’s name was Brown.

  62. Not to be personal, but i’m curious:when you see for a while a woman —– like, say, that 31-year-old blonde woman you mentioned who surprised you with her HBD-inspired comment —– do you consider yourself a ‘miscegenator?’

    No, in this situation I don’t consider myself a miscegenator at all, maybe that’s hypocritical. I usually don’t even bother telling women I’m dating, a certain percentage of people just laugh and don’t believe me when I tell them that I’m half Okinawan, anyway, until I show them a picture of me and my mom together. (and my mom is somewhat of a darker Okinawan, too)

    However, I look so white that if I had grown up with a typical white stepmother I couldn’t have even guessed that real mother was Okinawan (Japanese). My sister and I are like that. I’m also a little on the stocky side – about 6 foot and 200lbs. Never a suberb athlete but I did make the basketball team and was just an average player for that level, but it was a pretty large high school. My sister looks even less Asian than I do, she was a cheerleader and somewhat reminiscent of Susanna Hoffs in her appearance, I had something of a Ralph Macchio look. She ended up marrying an ex-Marine who is now in law enforcement.

    We grew up in a military town with about 30-40 other such children that were the spawn of an American military man and Asian wife. (90% of these couples were Okinawan woman-White male like us, the rest were a few black male with Korean or Fillipino mother.) And even the other “happa” white/asian mixes sometimes didn’t even know I was one of them, at both of my high school reunions I’ve had to remind people that my mom knew their mom back in Okinawa, etc.

    My mother actually grew up in Saipan/Northern Marianas/Guam. Her family was a well-to-do Okinawan farming family that moved to Southern Islands to establish farms. Apparently, when the Japanese Army retreated Northwards in WW2 they raided and totally destroyed the family holdings in their quest for various resources. My mom won’t talk about it, but my dad heard it from her sister.

    Or do you make an exception for yellow/white IR? Or, since you ‘don’t look Asian,’ do you consider yourself “white” even though you may draw 50%-50% results during a George Lopez “How Black Are You” segment?

    Yeah, I just consider myself white, for all intents and purposes. It’s not like listing “Asian” on anything would have any benefit for me, anyway. The funny thing is that when I’m hanging in a group of my conservative friends I will occasionally say things like “thank God I’m Japanese, we don’t just let any ol’ riff-raff come into the country like America” when discussing the illegal immigration question. I don’t bother to make such jokes around my SWPL friends, of course.

    I don’t consider any “exceptions” and actually I don’t necessarily like the term “mudsharking” but I use it for ease of communications on these blogs. IMHO, either your daughter is shagging a lowlife or she isn’t… if she is it’s probably your fault for not imbuing her with the values that patriarchy has been pushing for more than 1,000 years. Women making dumb decisions (especially reproductive ones) when they can is nothing new but allowing Western patriarchy to wither is the real problem (IMHO) – dumb, mudsharking women are just exercising the bad judgment and faulty mental wiring that women have always had.

    And as far as miscegenation goes, it’s the truth that white men date outside of their race much more often than white women. And it’s also true that the percentage of WM-BF pairings, which no one wants to talk or hear about, is now up to 1/3 of white-black couples.

    But George Lopez is just a dumbass, though. lol

    Still, deep in my soul i think there’s a black bias; one of my childhood haunts imagines what it would be to go through life as a biracial like this—–

    Well I am from the deep south where everyone, black and white, holds to the 1 drop rule as if it was God-ordained truth. No one questions it. But as far as Malcolm Gladwell goes, he wouldn’t look so weird if he’d tame those naps back to his skull. Or just get some long braids and pin them down to his little narrow head a la Andre 3000. He’s making himself look like an electrocuted freak on purpose. If he had pursued a career outside of writing and was just some short-haired accountant somewhere he might even be able to pass down in a place like Louisiana.

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  64. Some practical ideas:
    — Get rid of the TV.
    — Beginning early on, make sure your kids are aware of their heritage and why this is important. Some young adults these days have no clue about these things and can’t understand why their heritage is worth preserving..
    — The phrase “We don’t do things like that in this family” can be effective to prevent this and any other number of other degenerate fads, such as facial piercings.
    — Beware of the “F-U Dad” effect. Let them know that there are constructive ways to rebel and other ways which will mess up their lives.
    — Teach them to be politically aware. Let them know that there are others – particularly in the media, the schools, and the colleges – who will lie to them.

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